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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. Martias Lee
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  Speaker 1: took the clock from portals and then he grew up
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  Speaker 1: past back to a quarterback trying of cutdown. It is Monday,
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  Speaker 1: August fifth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: This money is brought to you by Jet Home Loans
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  Speaker 1: and now a guy who will work for Crabs. Jack.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this show is about today. Yes, yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: as soon as it gets over right, Welcome in Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on a Monday
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  Speaker 1: from the under Armored Performance Center in Owings Mills, Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: the home of the Baltimore Ravens. J P Shadrick Tony
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  Speaker 1: was Selly, Jeff Loguman. We've got planted to get to
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  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Week beginning today with the first of two
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  Speaker 1: full practices year at Owings Mills. We'll get some impressions
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  Speaker 1: of the first day of work between the teams, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of nagging injuries for the Jags, and we'll go
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  Speaker 1: around the National Football League two hours ahead of us tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Um Well, day one of the books. Here, guys, what
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  Speaker 1: if I had to say was your biggest standout today?
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  Speaker 1: What stood out the most on the practice field one
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  Speaker 1: person won play, one moment situation. What would you say
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  Speaker 1: to Yeah, I think a couple of things. We give
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  Speaker 1: you two one on each side of the ball. I
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  Speaker 1: thought in Gockway looked fabulous. As far as the quickness
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  Speaker 1: and the suddenness, uh in the pass rush, we had
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  Speaker 1: about a ten minute conversation on the still in the
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  Speaker 1: run game, I mean, the whole nine and seven was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I thought for the defense, and he was a part
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  Speaker 1: of that. Uh, but his suddenness is quickness is it was,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really impressive. And then I think for offense,
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  Speaker 1: I thought the receiver's had a good day. I thought
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  Speaker 1: char Chark had a good day. I thought Chris Calmly
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  Speaker 1: had a good day. Um so that was im positive.
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  Speaker 1: Watching some of the one on ones, the two minute drill,
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  Speaker 1: I thought was good for the one group. Um so
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  Speaker 1: those are to be the positives, that's what those are.
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  Speaker 1: The on each side of the ball kind of stood
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  Speaker 1: out for me. I'll give you a couple of plays
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  Speaker 1: and and I'll start with the quarterback first, Nick Foles,
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  Speaker 1: because it was it was a tight red drill or
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  Speaker 1: a goal line drill and I can't remember which it was.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony, you might have been that end of the
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  Speaker 1: field when they were doing it. And it was a
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  Speaker 1: throw towards Shaunasy. And it wasn't like it was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: hitting no Shaunasy on run. No, it was a location
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  Speaker 1: saying he stopped him so he wouldn't run him into
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  Speaker 1: the traffic. He's totally through it in one location that
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  Speaker 1: one guy could catch it. The opponent had no chance.
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  Speaker 1: So it was either going to be incomplete or a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown to a Shaunasy and O'Shaughnessy reels it in and
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  Speaker 1: I sat there and I went, It's been a long
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  Speaker 1: time since I've seen a throw like that out of
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  Speaker 1: my Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback and uh, and it was very impressive.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, Nick Foles, I think throughout the day had
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  Speaker 1: a really holiday. He had one thro that he threw
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  Speaker 1: in the end zone that he tried to force it
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  Speaker 1: to Jeff Swain and ended up getting intercepted, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is it is only his second interception and all
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  Speaker 1: of training camps so far, which is an amazing statistic. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And in Gockway, as Tony talked about, UH, he just
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  Speaker 1: continues to impress me. He's a total pro. He has
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  Speaker 1: a quickness and sudden change of direction that is just
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  Speaker 1: it amazes me. And they didn't give him any time
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  Speaker 1: to kind of work himself back in. Doug Maron said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm confident this guy. He knows he's ready to go,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna go full speed with this guy from
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  Speaker 1: the first day that was yesterday in Jacksonville and today
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  Speaker 1: here in Bolder and one other things that I that
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  Speaker 1: I think that kind of stood out to me the
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  Speaker 1: nine on seven drill and I watched today for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, the Jaguars defense against the Ravens offense. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch much of the Ravens defense against the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: offense unless unless it was moved over to the field
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  Speaker 1: that was over here right behind, because they were running
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  Speaker 1: at the same time on difference, sometimes they ran it
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, and then sometimes it was one
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  Speaker 1: field all me. When it was one only, I happened
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  Speaker 1: to catch everything. But uh, and Tony, I thought you
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  Speaker 1: you ended up seeing it because you were kind of
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  Speaker 1: splitting the fields a little bit. Was I thought the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars defense did not have a great day in the
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  Speaker 1: nine on seven period, which nine on seven period for
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  Speaker 1: people that don't know, it's stopping the run. And the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens are a good running football team, a good running
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  Speaker 1: football team with their quarterback and with their backs. They
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  Speaker 1: have a pretty solid offensive line and that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: their strength of their offenses running the football. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think the Jaguars had a great day at stopping
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  Speaker 1: the run. So do you think they had a good day?
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  Speaker 1: Who Jaguars? You said it wasn't great, it was good.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was good. It wasn't great. It was bad.
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  Speaker 1: I mean overall, I think but the nine on seven
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  Speaker 1: period was not a good period for the Jaguars. Tea.
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  Speaker 1: We went from great good manns leave well. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't want people thinking it was like
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  Speaker 1: an I don't think it was even average. When the
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  Speaker 1: ones route there is supposed to be the strength of
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  Speaker 1: his team, which it is, and in the nine on
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  Speaker 1: the seven period, it should be hard to run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: It's a drill that everyone knows it's physical. Since the
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  Speaker 1: tackle you know it's coming. I mean, you're you're not
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  Speaker 1: worried about the past game. I mean, and it should
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  Speaker 1: be a drill that you know if you pick up
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  Speaker 1: four yards as an offense, you're like, that's a good
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  Speaker 1: play and that drill. And there were some guys going
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  Speaker 1: through untouched into the secondary and guys on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: I just it was not it was not a good
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  Speaker 1: Night on seven period for the Jaguars defense. Give give
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens credit. The right guard for the Ravens his
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  Speaker 1: now in his thirteenth year. It has been a perennial
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type of guy and one of the best
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  Speaker 1: guards I've ever seen play football. And he's still playing
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  Speaker 1: in his thirteenth year. And and uh Antoni doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: physically impressive at all. In fact, he looks like he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even really look like an offensive lineman in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Well next next to Orlando Brown Jr. He looks tiny.
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  Speaker 1: It might be the biggest human being on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: The point does he looks soft? I mean, he just looks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like like the Sally here, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: are touching? Are you too? Like that? It's very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: So first day in the books, our first impressions there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it'll be interesting to see tomorrow what changes
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  Speaker 1: are made, if there's any you know, if there's any uh,
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  Speaker 1: improvement that maybe the the energy. I think there was
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  Speaker 1: a little talking to a couple of guys coming off.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was they were expecting a little more
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  Speaker 1: energy in this practice today. It wasn't quite there to
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  Speaker 1: did you guys notice? I think you bring up a
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  Speaker 1: good pointment because well there was no chippiness, which which
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  Speaker 1: is good, I mean because you don't just kind of productive.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that was pretty obvious
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens players at times, I mean they look like
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  Speaker 1: they're having fun, and then you watch the Jaguars players.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody had a good play and you're like, where where's
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  Speaker 1: the celebration, where's the where's the excitement? Where is the hey,
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  Speaker 1: great job? He didn't have any of that. And I
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  Speaker 1: know it's training camp and it can be a grind,
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  Speaker 1: but typically when when you're going against somebody else in
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  Speaker 1: a practice, even and you have a good play, usually
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  Speaker 1: there's a little a little trash tossing, a little chess
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  Speaker 1: bumping going on with your own guys, a little excitement.
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't really see much of that today, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of surprising. Who knows what that means. But
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was just as there was an energy out
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  Speaker 1: there that you thought. That's all it means. It starts,
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  Speaker 1: it ends there, that's all that means. You come back
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow having our opportunity could be a whole different day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you you have to take these things for
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  Speaker 1: what they are. It's a good days of work. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta see different um guys, different body types. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you look at Ravens defensive line. Those are I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they got a big, good looking defensive line, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not great pass rushers. But they're big, physical guys. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a different look for the offensive line. I thought
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  Speaker 1: offensive line had some good things and bad things fall
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  Speaker 1: starts by the rookie Taylor. That's something that we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about from the time we watched his college tank a
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  Speaker 1: couple of that that was a little concerning um Way.
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  Speaker 1: He I thought had a pretty good day at left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Linda looks very good. Um So, you know, but you're
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  Speaker 1: going to gets you know, it's a great word for
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Linder to the best nose tackles in football. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Williams and Michael Pearson played for the Ravens. Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Williams is a guy that can run. I mean, JP,
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  Speaker 1: this guy can run. I mean really good football players.
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  Speaker 1: So that was good work. So the energy, yeah, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't like a lot of juice, which is surprising.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, is it any different than what we've
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  Speaker 1: been saying in Jacksonville? I mean, how often have we
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  Speaker 1: sat on the sideline and said where's the juice? Especially
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  Speaker 1: earlier the first you want to see more of it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see it much in Jacksonville and training camp
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  Speaker 1: and and sometimes practice and training campuses, it's almost impossible
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  Speaker 1: to use it as an indicator of how the performance
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  Speaker 1: will be on a in a game situation. There's been
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  Speaker 1: practices where I thought, you know, in my career and
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  Speaker 1: then also in Tony's career, that we would probably say that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, we had a great week of practice,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna play really well, and you go out there
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday and it's just it's terrible. And then you
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  Speaker 1: have a week of practice where sometimes you're like, that's
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  Speaker 1: the worst week of practice we've ever had. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get our rear end stomped on Sunday, and you go
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  Speaker 1: out there on Sunday and you're like, sometimes it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't compute. So let me let me point out one
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  Speaker 1: other thing I think that was that was impressive to
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  Speaker 1: me today. It was Lamar Jackson. You liked him much better.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Ozzie knew something about it. The
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  Speaker 1: former GM still has some role here of the executive
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  Speaker 1: vice president, but really kind of part time, asked. I
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  Speaker 1: asked him. I said, hey, Ozzy, how's the part time
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  Speaker 1: retimement treat? And he goes, well, my golf games not
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  Speaker 1: getting any better yet, but I'm working on it. So
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  Speaker 1: he's Uh, Erica Cosses now the GM. So uh, Ozzy's
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  Speaker 1: taking a step back a little bit different role. And
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  Speaker 1: I was asking that. We were talking about Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 1: and it stood out to me on this football field
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  Speaker 1: because last year he was long and his not like long,
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  Speaker 1: just inconsistent. His motion, it's all over the place to
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  Speaker 1: Bobby flying every which way you could think of. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: a fabulous athlete, he has tightened it up. He looked accurate, precise,
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  Speaker 1: Um much improved. I get the kid credit. Obviously he's
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  Speaker 1: working on it because he's a great athlete and you know,
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  Speaker 1: good army. But the the inconsistency with the accuracy was
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  Speaker 1: so evident last year. Um that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: questioned the pick, which is completely unfair. He was a rookie,
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  Speaker 1: so we jumped to these conclusions so fast. But watching
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  Speaker 1: him today, I was impressed. I mean, putting the ball
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  Speaker 1: on the targets, getting it out, making quick decisions in
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  Speaker 1: the pocket. Uh. Now, we didn't see a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what John Harball promised last week. You can't you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that. A lot of running by the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that because you can't touch the guys. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he came out and said Lamar Jackson came out and
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  Speaker 1: said that he's not going to run as much as
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  Speaker 1: he did last year, which is I mean, which is natural,
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  Speaker 1: Darbus just exactly. I mean, he did that kind of responsible.
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  Speaker 1: Lamar said, No, what you know, I was impressed by
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just because he actually looked like he was
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  Speaker 1: going through progressions and he was, uh seeing the defense accurate.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, he's bigger than I thought, Tony, Uh in
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  Speaker 1: stature size wise, and then also in thickness. He's got
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  Speaker 1: to be six to six three. Yeah, he's bigger than
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  Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah. So uh, and I mean he's an
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable athlete. And you know, last year he started what
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  Speaker 1: seven games for the Ravens. He end up winning six
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  Speaker 1: of them the end of season, and they ended up
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  Speaker 1: winning their division and advancing to the playoffs where they
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  Speaker 1: lost to the Chargers. And uh, with a rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and what did he run for yardage wise last year?
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  Speaker 1: Like almost six hundred yards or something of that nature
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  Speaker 1: in the seven games. The only thing who stopped were
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers in the playoffs. Yeah, so think about it
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  Speaker 1: for a minute. I mean, if you extrapolate that out
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  Speaker 1: in sixteen games, I mean you're talking about a thousand
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  Speaker 1: yard rushing quarterback, which would what if? What was the
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  Speaker 1: best year that Michael Vick ever had? As I thought
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  Speaker 1: he No, I thought it was like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he went over a thousand. It was close, close, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he went over a thousand. Funny, this guy,
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  Speaker 1: if he does run it, he'll be over a thousand
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  Speaker 1: and uh. And then they've got to got mark Ingram
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  Speaker 1: right there too. Well, they got mark Ingram and they
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  Speaker 1: got a rookie that played a lot last year the
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  Speaker 1: thirty five and UH up to cheat use the cheat
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  Speaker 1: sheet here because I haven't studied him a ton yet.
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  Speaker 1: Gus Edwards that is in a second year out of Rutgers,
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  Speaker 1: and last year he was a pretty solid back for
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  Speaker 1: him too, so they kind of got a a one
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  Speaker 1: to three punch with two backs and a quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: can take off and go like that. So first day
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  Speaker 1: impressions in the book. We'll come back in a moment
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  Speaker 1: and touch on one of the first names you guys
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  Speaker 1: mentioned today and he can goquay. The holdout's over, We'll
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  Speaker 1: delve into his day a little bit more what he's
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  Speaker 1: shown so far here on the practice with the Jacksonville
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• 16:34
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• 16:37
  Speaker 1: coming up preseason Week one. We've just finished the first
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: practice of this week, the Aravens and the Jaguars meeting
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: against each other here in Owen's Mills. And earlier you
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: guys mentioned Unique and Goquay. Was that kind of stood
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: out today a little bit? Well, he was back on
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the practice field yesterday. They had an indoor practice in
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville before the flight up yesterday afternoon, and even then
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it was we're gonn letting go Qui go full here
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and they're not gonna hold him back at all. He
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: comes out practices in Jacksonville, it wasn't it wasn't an
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: outdoor full full speed. There was no pads or anything.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But then today they didn't hold him back really at all. Uh.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And you mentioned it earlier. You you liked his athletics
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and you didn't see a misstep or anything from Unique
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: today he was he was full ready to go. Yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's gonna get better. I'm sure
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit of rust in there, but just
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: his natural ability and his quickness and his change the
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: direction in his hand used and what he does. Is
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher is special. I mean, it's it's a reason.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: There's there's a reason why the Jaguars offered him nineteen
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: million dollars year and why he wants the reason why
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't take it too. That's my point. That's why
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you know those numbers are what they are, because he's
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: a talented pass rusher. If you can get the quarterback
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: to the ground, you're gonna get paid in this league. Um.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And he has this, he has a special knack to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: do that. He's gonn understide. Guys, are there some negatives? Uh?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And some when I say negatives, some things that he's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: not great in the run game as far as at
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the point of attack, sure, but in the passing league
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he can rush the pastor and that's really important. Um.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that he's in camp. He's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: gonna play for the two million. He really had to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: come in by tomorrow. Uh, so he gets his free
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: agency year after this year, the ACCREDIT season. But if
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the numbers and we don't know the numbers for sure,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: but if the numbers that are being reported basically in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: an eighteen a year or four year extension with fifty
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: plus guaranteed some I think was the guarantee somewhere in there.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: He's it's a lot of money. He's rolling the dice,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: rolling the He can't tell another man how to, but
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: he is rolling the dice generational wealth. Here. Here's the thing, though,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: if if he gets the free agency, he's gonna get
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that twenty one million. No, but you're missing my point, Jeff.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: That's I agree with you. That's not the point. The
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: point is that's the point for young know. But but
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you have to think about this. There's no guarantee he's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: getting free ancy after this year. They can franchise him.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: That's why I said, if that's my point, so he is.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: My whole point is he is rolling the dice in
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a big way, which is his right. But they look
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins rolled the dice on himself every year
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: in Washington quarterbacks in a league where you can't touch
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, it's less of a gamble than a guy
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: who wastes tune forty eight pounds can't argue with you
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: defensive end. He said, he's about two forty. He's not
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to forty eight. Where'd you get that number? Five? He
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: was And he said to forty. You guys buying two
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: forty or is he smaller than that? He might be
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: smaller than I put this way. I had a conversation
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: with him in the off season and it was specifically
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: about his weight, and I said, how much you wear
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: two thirty eight to forty somewhere right and there? I'm
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like what I said, why are you so light? And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: he goes, Von did at two thirty three? Wow, Von
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Miller he's talking about? Okayon is a different cat now,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: by the way, Well, I mean look, I mean Von
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Millard is the same type of rusher as John, and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that he's a a speed change of direction. Uh. And
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Von's got some a little bit more power, I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: than than John. But I mean I mean, look if
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: if if he can do it at two three, then
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: John could do it at two for He's been doing
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: in this whole whole time. Anyway. I mean, he's John.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: John is a special athlete. Now, when you're a special athlete,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't need to play two hundred fifty pounds.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I don't even care what his weight is. That's not
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: my point. My point is is an undersized defensive end.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He's rolling the dice because he is a speed player,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: God forbid, which none of us want to happen he
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: gets hurt or was injured. Say, I mean, it's a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: big gamble, gamble, it's it's a it's a big gamble.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And especially because he's not guaranteed to get the free
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: agency after this year. Because here's my question. Let's say
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you honest ten sacks, Josh Allen's eight sacks, You're gonna
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: pay you one million bucks and let me the free
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: agency or you know, or you gotta franchise and paying
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: fift you know, eighteen because you feel pretty happy about
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Alan coming along too at that point. That's my point,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: because you gotta pay twenty yep, and so like what
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: about well, I want to see that vers what about again?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: It's my point. There's a lot of a lot of
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: guys that could be needing how much. I wonder how
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: longer Clas wants to pay play is a big question
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: for me. I get the impression that this is not
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: his last ye don't no, no, no, I don't think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it's his last year either. No, no, no, I don't
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I don't disagree with that at all.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. There my point is it's not
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: just a risk that Yahn is running for himself, like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: on injury, the injury risk that's always in there in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the NFL. It's a physical game. You know, you pray,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you hope the best, and I hope Yawn stays healthy
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: because I as a player, I wanted to get paid
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: as much as you can. I hope he gets twenty
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: one million bucks. God bless him. But it's a roll
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of the dice because you don't control your own destiny,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because he still can be franchise and you still have
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a rookie they drafted in the top ten that if
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he's productive as well. Now you have to sit there,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: if your Dave calwell and you have twenty coming up,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you have ninety three coming up. I'm waiting to see
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on forty four miles Jack. I mean, I'm not sure
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: what the market's gonna be for him. Um, I don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: think it's the big numbers. We're talking about those other
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: guys and you sit back and you're like, Okay, now
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: what do we do? And so that's the added risk.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And I've always said from the beginning, the team sits
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: in the in the in the driver's seat because of
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the franchise tag they can use on you. But I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: think that there is a risk, there's no doubt for
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: him to try to get the free agency there's always risk.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: But if he is able to get there, he will
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: get more money than we can even imagine if he's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a true free agent. Now I know your argument and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that maybe he doesn't get there, but it's very clear
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that they're willing to take that chance. And here's the thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: If you only eight franchise for for the things that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you talked about there, when you're talking about twenty and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we're talking about ninety three and forty four, I mean
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of guys. Okay for the Jaguars. If
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you decide to franchise John, why be less money. You
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: can franchise for eighteen million millions. And my point is
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: those that okay, then you franchise him for one year
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: at eight seen and then all a sudden he if
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: let's he takes it, and then the next year then
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he goes fredency. But my point maybe maybe not if
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: not going to use the franchise tag again. And I
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: don't wanted to jump like something percent, but I mean
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't put it put I don't fault him for
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: doing to do whatever he wants to do. If he
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: does get the free agency, he is gonna hit it
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: big time. If he has another year like he had
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: in the last two years, he's gonna get paid a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: lot of money. You think, what do you think he
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: gets paid. I would love for the Jaguars to find
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a way to keep him and Josh Allen because you
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: got one on a rookie contract, you got another one
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that was on a free agent contract, and you would
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like to think that you can afford to pay both
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of them. And it's gonna be make this defense a better,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: better football team, or make this team is better football
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and make the defense better by having the boats right,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it might force some other changes elsewhere in the defense.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: But yes, well here's there thing if you're the Jaguars
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you gotta look at is it looks like he's gonna
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: pay for the two million this year. It sounds like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: let's say he plays great because I'm rooting for him,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: or I'm healthy, I wanted to play great. He's a pro,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: he's a fabulous player. Um, I'd franchise him no matter what,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: no matter what, because I want to sign twenty and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I got the cb A coming up, and so I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: might get a big expansion in the cap where I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: can afford him both. Let me ask you this, do
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you think you can afford to pay twenty without putting
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the French eyes tag on him? Yeah? I think so,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: because twenty has another year after this? You think? I know?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: But do you think twenty is gonna be wanting to do? Oh?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: He's making the highest paid, making the highest paid corner football. Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Jaalen said it was gonna be ungodly the amount of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: numbers you should put him making the highest paid and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: listen if he doesn't want to, Jeff, guess what, that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: not an easy task to accomplish that. Guys like that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that's easy to do. None of it's easy. But you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: have to sit and look at reality. They have Jalen
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: under contract for two more years. They control her. Jalen
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is gonna be happy under contract for two more years
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: at what the scheduled to be. I'm not happy half
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the time. What is it? I mean? I mean, being
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: happy is not the question. The question is. It's leveraging business.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And so if you're sitting here for I know, you're
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: not pleasant to be around. Oh, you're not happy. Okay,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Jalen is not gonna be pleasant to be on the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: football team. But guess what's happy. Guess what Jalen is
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Jalen is gonna go play. I guess all
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I care about the end of the day, show up
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: on Sunday and play as the best corner because that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: what you are. All the other ways it's noise. See
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: see you're you're, you're You're making jail Or Jalen very simple,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: it's an easy solution, is simple, whereas in gockways he's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: not simply it's not. It's not easy. I mean, it's Louck,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's difficult no matter how you look at it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you, if you had if you had
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to choose one or the other, you only could pay
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: one of them. Who are you paying me, jail Or?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I had to make a decision right now today, right here,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I pay Jalen. He's the best. He's the best player
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of his position. In reason I say that is also one.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He's that for that reason there, But then also you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: have a young player and Josh Allen, who you think's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: going to be a good edge rusher. Um if you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: didn't have Josh Allen. Will that change? It probably changed
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: for me. You're signing gowayass rusher, right, I didn't ask
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But but I mean it would
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: change your thought process a little bit, take a little
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: harder about it. Yeah, I'd take you longer to come
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to the conclusion. I agree with that pass rushers are
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a premium you know, So I don't know. I mean
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. Do you pay the pass rusher or do
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you pay the coverage guy? You know? And and here
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: here's the one thing I think that is also a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: part of that argument. Yahn is exactly what you want
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: out of a player. Committed, hardworking, focus, loves ball. Everything
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: about him you like. Okay, of those things you just
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: said right there, will tell me one in that area
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and those categories. What is jail and not jail loves
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you love everything about jail and those categories as well.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. The only thing that you don't like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: with jail and at times is sometimes that the distraction
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that comes along with it. Fair are those distractions pasted him?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he's kind of moved forward. I'm just
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not want to look in the truck. Like two
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, it was a twenty second bit. I'm just
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: saying it wasn't in the stadium. That bothers. It doesn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: bother me. I could care less about this stuff. But
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that does bother some coaches and for office people, doesn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: sure it tells yes. And then last year with the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I mean Doug probably you know, he's the head coach,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: but I can't speak for every person in that building.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But he's like, yeah, we just have We're fine with it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: What do you think he's gonna say, Well, yeah, probably
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: because he's fine with it. He wasn't fine whether he
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: might say something. No, Doug, I don't know about that.
• 28:23
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  Speaker 1: and uh, maybe not a comparison, but you brought up
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Von Millers in the last segment just from a size
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: comparison standpoint, I mean, not necessarily from an ability standpoint,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but say those are two different guys, two different types
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: of player, right now. Then I asked Tony during a break,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, So what was von Miller's numbers
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: in his first three years? Sax wise had eleven and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a half eighty and a half. So he had, uh,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that's thirty in his first two years. And what did
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: he have got hurt? His h third year had five,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and then he's averaged. And then he let me just
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: read them to you and then he went, uh, which
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: his numbers are crazy, Yeah, I mean they're they're incredible.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And then he went fourteen eleven, thirteen and a half, ten,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: fourteen and a half amazing. Here's the other things. Jeff
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: sixty four tackles, sixty eight tackles the year he was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: miss times thirty four tackles, sixty tackles, seventy eight tackles,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: fifty seven tackles, I mean, everywhere, much better numbers than
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: in Gockway, as far as in the ring game. Much better. Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I was in the twenties, I think whatever.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And sacks, oh yeah, both both categories. I mean, that's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: why he's the best defense player in football. He's amazing, Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: great player. I mean, so what does he make in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a year? By the way, he should hold out? These
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: guys are making you know, the Lawrence and uh Frank
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Clark are making nineteen I mean, shouldn't he go, wait
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a minute, I should be the highest paid player on
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: defense right now. And he's got an argument about that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: This time will come at some point he keeps that up.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, his time will certainly come. And then
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: another guy we were talking about is clil Mack. Clil
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Mack his rookie year at four sacks. Then he went
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: fifteen eleven, ten and a half, twelve and twelve and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a half with seventy six tackles, seventy seven tackles seventy
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: three tacks. The four tackles is rookie year. Las Week
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: had four sax four sacks. Not very good rookie here.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing this is but in fairness, just
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to be fair to un because if you want to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: go to the other side where he is saying, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: want the type of money that a guy like Frank
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Clark got, who's just got paid this year and if
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you did not get paid in Seattle, by the way,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and if you look at his stats, it's this is
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: where Yon has a good argument his rookie here. I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: don't even think he played that. He was in trouble
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: coming out of college. If I remember right well, he
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: was driving. He played, but there was a huge deal
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: about Yeah, he had issue off the field. He only
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: had sixteen tackles and three sacks. And then a second
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: year he had ten sacks, seven tackles, nine sacks, tackles,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and in thirteen sacks and tackles. And so if you
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: look over the last three years went John's been in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the league, Frank Clark has thirty two sacks and Yannick
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: has twenty nint five. It's pretty close. Pretty close. Let's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: get back to practice. If you're if you're a double
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: digit sack guy a year, you're a great player. I mean,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you're you're gonna make a lot of money in the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: National Football leaguef you're double digit sacks, which Johan is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: in that category right there. He's not there though he's
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: knocking on the door. Yes, he's knocking on the door.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to practice today. Uh, in this Jaguars
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: offense against the Ravens defense. First impressions of that matchup today,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Folds and the receivers and Leonard for Nett and those
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: guys and the teamwork today. What do you see against
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: this Ravens defense here today, Logs. Like I said, I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: didn't watch a ton of the offense because I was
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: watching the other side of the field. But I will
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: say that for Net continues to get a lot of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: balls out of the backfield. And like the first eleven
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: on eleven ball over balls in the passing game as
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a receiver, yes, and that was the first play at
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: eleven and eleven today. It was like three tight ends
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to the right and then throw back to the left
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and he goes all the way down the sideline. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: so I mean he I thought he had a good
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: day today catching the ball out of the backfield. I
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: thought the offensive line was okay. But you know, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: want to see that offensive line against that Ravens defensive line,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how much we're gonna see in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the game. And he almost And I know I'm kind
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of changing the subject here a little bit, but it
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: leads me to this and that when when we watch
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: practice today and then when we watch it tomorrow, you're
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of ones versus ones. And the reason
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of ones versus ones because when
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: we get to the game on Thursday night, we're not
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: going to see a lot of ones period for either
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: football team. I believe, and I think both coaches and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: organizations believe that too. Only in this type of work
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: right here get you great raps for your ones with
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: very little injury risk compared to playing in a game.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's why we're seeing them get
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the majority of the work, and then we're not seeing
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the backups get a ton of work. So um, let
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: me just say that right out of the gate. But
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you know, look, I thought the receivers look good. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: thought that d D look good Again. A d D
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: continues to just be consistent after day after day, you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing about Dad. But now,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: would you put d D into category as a as
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a one or a number two and see, that's that's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the thing, you know. I I don't know if you
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: would want to say, hey, look, in a perfect world,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: as d D. Westbrook and one number one receiver or
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: number two receiver Tony. Where would you put him at?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Would you put him in as a two or three?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: All he's a slot guy, so he's he's better inside
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that to three position. He's kind of like a like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a Now he might be able to develop into you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: two good two. We haven't seen that yet. No, it's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: way too it's way too early to project that or
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: put that on him. I mean at this point, they
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: don't have a true number one. They got a bunch
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: of guys who, uh have some attributes that you really like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like Chris Comedy, big Fast. I thought he
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: had a good day. Chark is really coming on. I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: think Chark is extending more than any other receiver, really
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: catching it, using his hands, well, going up, contesting, competing,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: he's ascending. Um, you have d D. I mean those guys,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: those are your top three right now and clear cut
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: those are when you start opening. They gets the chiefs.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Barring injuries, those arena be your three receivers on the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: field now. The one thing that I really like about DJ,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and I said this last year, and my experience has
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: been is that when you have a guy that excels
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: on special teams, eventually they're gonna be a really good
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: positional player for the most part. And and I thought
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: d J. Chark's performance last year on special teams was
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: simply one of the best that there was on this
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: football team as a whole. And liked how he competed.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a trait that luck. You can't
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: teach that and take a wide receiver put them on
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: special teams, and then he excels. He's a true competitor,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and DJ is a true competitor. And then you're starting
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to see that now is a wide receiver where he's
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: starting to learn the position. He's obviously getting great coaching.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: A little plug there for our former teammate Kingdom of
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: card Dell. I think he does a great job with
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers and you're starting to see the results.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: What do you Marquis Lee? They Doug Maron said that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they'll kind of unveil a plan probably later this week
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of how to get Marquis back on the field, work
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: him back if he if he's back and ready to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: go and all that, how can he crack this lineup
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: on opening day without being out here in camp. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: had a conversation with him. Uh, it was Friday at
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage and talked to him aston house knee was doing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: He said, look, it feels really good. He said, he's progressing,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: but he's still aways away from being ready. And I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: think it's very important for a guy that that had.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the reality is I mean, he
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: had a huge, horrific knee injury. It wasn't just one ligament, okay,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of things that happened with the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: knee injury that he had, and so the most important
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: thing is not about being available for a game one.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: The important thing is being available when he's ready to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: be available after having such a significant knee injury last year.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: And it was one of the biggest cheap shots I've
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: ever seen in the preseason ever in the National Football
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: League in my time in the National Football League. The
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: guy went low. Didn't even see him coming. Uh, terrible.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So when did he's ready, we'll be I mean, when
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Marquis is ready, he'll be ready, you know. I mean,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: he can't rush it. And don't rush it because you're
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: talking about the longevity of a player. You're not talking
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: about winning one football game. You're talking about winning a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: lot of games in the future with a good player. Yeah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he's it's gonna take some time for
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: him to get his feet underneath them, be confident cutting
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: even when the needs a d physically. The mental aspect
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of it is going to be a chore for him
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to get over. Uh. And I think once he gets
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: out there, I think he'll be in the rotation. I mean,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: he'll be active on game day and he'll be part
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of that rotation. And I just get this sense they're
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: gonna go to hot Ham this year. Like I think
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it literally could be someone different every week, um, based
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: on which is not a good statement about your wide receiver,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: but I mean, do you have a sense of any
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: one guy just rapping him by the horns and saying
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: or that could be the other way logs. That means
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: other guys are across the board. You trust guys to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: kind of step up, right, Well, I mean, look here
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: here's the realities that we're talking about. It might be
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: different every week, and that means that you don't have
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a great receiving group. You got a solid you got
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that you hope somebody can step up.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you think it's a great receiving corps? No,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and then that's why that's why here that way, you
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: know that's the reality, and you hope that that somebody
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: can eventually emerge, you know, a young player like add
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: or a young player like a d J Chart that
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: can emerge and and kind of take that that role.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But I just don't see that happening yet. Two things
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: real quick. We gotta go to break. It's a better
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: group than last year. That's a positive. It is a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: better group. Comedy is better than mon creef um slam
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: dunk there chart. Second year improved, dd another year improved.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get mark easily at some point. Back. I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: mean you know right now where is Roll pryor factor
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: into that five or six? Him and Cole kind of
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: fighting for that back end. Uh. I think he has
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: a hard time making it. Doesn't play special teams, So
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you might be right. But so it's a better group,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and they have a quarterback that's gonna make them better.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: The quarterback is gonna make this receiving corps look much better.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: And so I'm not overly concerned. It's I think if
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you look offensively, I think upgraded a quarterback. We'd agree
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: with that. I think the offensive line is better with
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the right tackle Taylor, as long as he doesn't jump
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: off sides. I like the tight end room better with
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Swain in the rookie it's back uh and the running
• 44:12
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• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see. I really like Armstead, the rookie
• 44:18
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
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• 44:26
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• 44:28
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• 44:31
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  Speaker 1: moment ago before the break, Tony, you brought it up
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  Speaker 1: the running backs here, you mentioned Riquel Armstead. We touched
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  Speaker 1: and then he gave no information about Rock other than well,
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  Speaker 1: we needed a guy for practice. That's not a good
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  Speaker 1: sign if you're Rock. Not a good sign for Rock. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: not a good sign. So basically the coach said, he's
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  Speaker 1: games at the start of the year, that's right, whenever
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  Speaker 1: ends up on. So um, but not a real positive
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• 49:34
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• 49:40
  Speaker 1: running backs coach. By the way, as we talked about
• 49:42
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  Speaker 1: time meeting him to now, there's some good thoughts there.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Check it out on Jaguars dot com. But um, Leonard
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: out of the backfield? You mentioned it earlier in the show. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what does Alfred Brute Blue bring to the table as
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  Speaker 1: a veteran backup Riquil Armstead a hard running rookie when
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: he's out there, there's some positivity I think right now
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  Speaker 1: in this running back room, at least on the outside
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: looking in. What would you guys say to that? I mean,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: let's in this running back room is gonna be judged
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: by one thing, one thing only, and that's a Leonard
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: for net and habits for net play. And it's not
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: just it's the consistency on the field. We can weak
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: out no distractions off the field. Um and does he
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: become that bell cow guy that you can count on
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: weekend a week out And if he does that, well,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: then it's a good room. If he doesn't, well, now
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: you're looking around and you gotta find someone to step
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: up and those you know, it's Alfred Blue, it's Betty
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Thompson out there. Thomas Rawls was having a good o
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: t A S and camp for he got hurt. I
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: really like Armstead. I really like him a lot, really efficient.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I love physical. He's not great out of the backfield.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: He's work on that catching the ball, but I really
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: like his style of running. There's a little a little
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: finished to him, at least in the practice field. Hitting
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: defensive back Jacksonville, he had you know, he trucked the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: one guy, Quincy Williams, which was impressive. But he's a
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: he's a real efficient runner. Watching his college tape, he
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't waste a lot of steps to get going north
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and south and uh and I like that about him
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't dance, he doesn't mess around. As an
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you probably love the back like that. I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: love hit him there he goes okay. Uh, But the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: fact is he's not on the field right now. Well
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: he's not on the field, but he's off the side working.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a big picture, big picture, I'm going small.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: But two about him coming out of the backfield at college,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: he showed that he did not have great hands, and
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: so I think right now you only trust him as
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a first on the second down back until he proves
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: that he can catch the football. But you know, Leonard
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Fournette had the knock coming out of l s U
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that he couldn't catch the football, and all we're seeing
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: out here is that he's got great hands. So maybe
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Armstead can eventually show that. I don't know if that's
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: going to be the case or not, because we saw
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: some drops last week out of him the rest of
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the backs. Uh. Then now for Blue, who you asked
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: specifically about. He's a big guy, but to be perfectly
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: honest with you, I haven't seen much out of him.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes it's hard to tell with a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: running back, especially a veteran guy, because you know, they
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: kind of glide in practice a little bit. They're not
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you know, making a lot of contact and so when
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the lights come on, I think we'll have a little
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: bit better indicator on Alfred Blue. But from what I
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: have seen and practice so far, UM, he hasn't really
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: stood out. He's tall, he's six too. That's he's thick.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I mean he's in that. He's a big body. It's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: not like he's a six ft running back. He's a
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: big man. Uh. And he's bow legged? Is all good
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: at looks like he showed up on a horse and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: off and started running out on the ass. HOLLI fellas,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I'm here he does. He's kind of got the bow
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: legs going, you know, so we'll see running back room.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Another topic we touched on last segment, Nick Foles and
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: how his play can elevate the wide receiver room, you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: because he throw How would that happen? Well? And I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: was starting to Keenan about this third day. I felt
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: like and I and I said this. I said to Keenan,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: we're just talking. Is you had to be open for
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Blake to throw you the ball last year, like open open,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: And that's why he saw those drags and like these
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: trying to cross the hand beaters and try to get
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: guys open because you had to like be in space
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and clearly be open in the ball delivered. If you
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: watch Nick Foles. In most NFL quarterbacks, that's not the case.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: They can do obviously, if you're open, they're gon throw
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it to you. They can throw you in tight spaces.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: And so if if you are on a out route
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: breaking out and and you got your half covered half
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a man, well, Nick Foles has the accuracy to throw
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it outside to where only you're gonna catch it. The
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: perfect example was Jeff right up Shaughnessy. He's in the
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: end zone. He's a little bit of a drag, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the coverage if he if he leads them, he's gonna
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: throw him into coverage and get him killed or broken up.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So he sits him down. Not because Sean is he's
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: sitting down, is because he throws it to his back.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Numbers makes him sit down. So he throws it to
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: a spot and that and which is the third example,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: is like he'll throw you open, so you can be
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: covered in this league and the quarterback can throw it
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to a spot that you get to first and they
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: throw you open. We did not see a lot of
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: that out of Blake and So Nick Foles is gonna
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: make this receiving corps better because he's gonna give them
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: more option to catch balls that in the past they
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: weren't wide open, the ball wasn't coming. That's just how
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: it is. That's how it was. And he's got a
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: strong command of the offense. I mean, JP says, he
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: gets in and out, in and out, not just in
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: gets him out of there. The most important thing is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: what happens when the ball snapped. JP. You know, in
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and out of the huddle. That's all great j J people,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Hank has hat on that. In and out. So you
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: brought it up. I didn't bring it up. You'd rather
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: have it than not have it, and I don't have that.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: You're in trouble. By the way, the young quarterback from
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Arkansas is that where's from? Trying to whom? Not Arkansas, Washington?
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Actually he actually had. I had Arkansas on my mind,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Brandon Awen. Yeah, probably that Matt Jones. But then you
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: look good today. I thought he had a good day.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Well wait a second, can you make your mind up?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Because like two prices ago, you wanted to cut him.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I know you wanted to trade somebody. Remember the last
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: typical of a right j He said all the back
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: up quarterbacks need to be cut. He's up, and I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: didn't say that. Yes, yes, he said, Wenna, start looking
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: for another backup quarterback. That I didn't say cut. Isn't
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: that well, you're gonna bring a new again. But my
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: my point with this is is that up down, up down,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: young quarterback, young quarterback. And uh, the one thing I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: that I've found out about him, he scored one of
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the all time highs on the intelligence test, and I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: heard some things about his work. HAPs we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk offensive line coming up. I know Tony,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you are chomping at the big to talk about what
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: you saw today. Let's finish our quarterback conversation we had
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: at the end of the first hour of this program,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and you were rolling on Gardner Minshew before the break. Well,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: they do at the combine, they typically do an intelligence
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: tests and I don't know the exact name of wonder
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: WoT wonder, Yeah, and I think I think some teams
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: use the one they all use. He was like a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: forty two, I got forty three. Yeah, I just never
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: go check it. A perfect score is a fifty, Okay,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I was forty seven. I was talking
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to you, wish you might have had a seven and
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: a four two different times you took it. I was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: in the high but I was having a conversation with
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: one of the Jaguar scouts who has been around a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: long time. He says, it's the hight score he's ever
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: seen out of quarterback, the highest score he's ever seen
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: out of quarterback. What does that mean? It means smart
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: practice the test very well. He's a smart guy. And
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: what does it cover? I guess is the point? You know?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Is it? I don't even remember now. But they asked
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: like math questions, common sense questions. Okay, so it's a
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: more of a well rounded kind of I mean, I guess,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know what. It just means
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: that he's smart, very smart, Jeff struggle to get past
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the write your name. But but here's the thing. Is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, you're not going to get a lot
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: of physical reps. So you have to be a smart
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: player to be a backup. The better you are, smarter
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you are, I think, the better backup quarterback you can become.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: And obviously he has the intelligence. But but some of
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: his work ethic, some of the stories that I'm hearing
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: about him and about how he goes about his prepper ration.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Give us an example, just don't tease us. He will
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: call out plays in a room by himself and go
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: through it himself completely, like literally, it's like visualization but
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: he's calling the plays, he's he's giving motions, he's doing
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: all this by himself. So it's not like a coach said, hey,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: we want you to go through all this stuff on
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: your own. He does this himself. And uh, I mean
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: for rookie to do that tournament, how many rookies knew
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: what the heck they were doing or had the habits
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: that they needed to have to become a good pro
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: right out of the gate. So those are positive things,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: and those are very positive, but good, good, good to hear,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that. I mean, yeah, no, it's very positive.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: But didn't you do stuff like that? I mean, I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: mean all seriously. I mean I I visualized, visualized like
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I would all the time, room and everything, work on
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: pass sets and everything. But I didn't go into a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: room by myself. And for a quarterback, it's so different
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: to where you know, you go into a room and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you're barking out signals and you're getting and all that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I mean, it's a little different. I mean,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: we never went and we visualized things in our head.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: We didn't go getting out on our stands and I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. I get my work on my stance
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: at night in my room and absolutely get out of Yeah,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I was making up the wonderluck Square obviously
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: know that, but I mean we weren't full bad this.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I'm being serious about I'd work on past that's all
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the time. Any room at the hotel. Yes, how would
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: that help? Though? Just for work and getting comfortable? And
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I said I didn't. I didn't do anything physical, Like,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: how would that not help? Because you're's a totally different
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: environment You're not wearing anything. Yeah, Like for me, because
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: everything about me, everything I was always about repetition and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: so that when I got on the field, it was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: second nature that didn't have to think. I could just
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: react as offensive lineman. I mean that's what's the what's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the term of repetition, repetitive perfection or something like that.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: You try to repeat something time and time again and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: have the consistency to be able to do unfairness. It
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't like I was doing it for hours at a time,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I was barking out like calls
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: like tag tag, gag, scoop, scoop, scoop exactly. No, I'm
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: not doing that. You were calling up Mike sliding to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: wheel for Louis Louis, Louis, No, I was not doing that.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty cool to hear that. You know,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: it was a young player like that. And I'm excited
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: to see him under the lights Thursday night. We're gonna
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: see him a bunch. Yeah, you know, Doug Warren hasn't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: you know, said yet. Who's gonna get when you say
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: you're excited? What excites you just to see him in
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: a real game environment for the first time? You know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen that. I gotta stopped real quick. I
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• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: don't spend it on one place. Let's shift our conversation
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: now as we're talking about past sets in hotel rooms.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Shoot the yet Jaguar's offensive line and after breaker right now,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: right now, right now. You know the unofficial depth chart
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: comes out in the first press release game release. I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: don't buy it, and here's what it says. On the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: offensive line, Cam Robinson first team, but he's injured. Right now,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: have Leonard Wester and Josh Wells slash together as the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: second team left tackle. Andrew Lauderdale is the third team
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: left tackle. Right tackle. They have Cedric oh boy he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: at right tackle as the first team guy, and then's
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Jawan Taylor second team but actors Field today. Taylor is
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: on the right, Boy he's on the left. If Cam's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: not ready, the starting offensive line will be Taylor, can
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Linda uh Norwell Norwell. That will be your starting left
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: That'll be your starting on the way. He will be
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: at left tackle. Thursday, I'm done an opening day of
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: camp and maybe even opening day. If Cam's ready, Cam's ready,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: can at left tackle. Boy, he will be your swing
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: tackle with Taylor starting. Uh. I think that's kind of
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: interesting because we assume that that Cam would be the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: starter if he's back. I mean, he's got a ways
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: to go yet. If he's back, right, I mean he's
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: coming back from an A c L. He hasn't taken
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: a single actually, you see as a way is to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: come back, Like, what do you mean by that? I
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: don't buy that put on pad yet. Okay, but that's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: not a ways to go yet. But we haven't even
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: had one preseason game. So you're as of this weekend,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: you're four weeks away from opening weekend? Right, I put
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: pads on Tony. He's not you. But I'm not saying
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to compare. I'm talking about the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: situation of getting ready to play. I know what you're saying,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: he needs more reps. He needs reps, But Jeff, he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: needed more reps than he would have even if he
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: was healthy. He needs the reps and not in the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: hotel room. Well, I would actual, I would actually recommend
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: that for him. Yet, what's the rule that when you're
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: not taking real reps. You gotta you gotta visualize. It's
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the Really, it's the rule of ten thousand. I like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: to be, to become a perfect something, you have to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: take ten thousand reps. It is a studied, like real rule. Dave,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me like that says the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: same thing, same thing? Not even close. Yes, ten thousand
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: was in there here and here's the thing under cough
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: and Tony was able to get those ten thousand within
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the first week of practice. But my point, it's the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: it's the rule of tenour sorry, but it's it's the principles,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: the same it was when I'm trying to what I'm saying, though,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: it's all about repetition. You have to do it over
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: and over and over and over. If you want to
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: perfect something, you gotta continuously do it. That's why you
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: have a lot of work to still do jp to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: get to be a perfection. You're only like four thousand hours.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Keep going, that's keep working. But so it's camp.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: So we're a long way from that right now. What
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is health wise, forget reps for a second,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: forget technique. Health Wise, he has plenty of time to
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: be ready for and to get in shape. Like, as
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: long as he has three weeks in my mind about
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: here practicing, going through stuff, and getting himself into game shape.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: So preseason game, a couple of series, in the fourth
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: preseason game, he should be ready. It's not easy to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: get a game shape. That's why you have without practicing.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm not concerned as far as being physically ready
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: right now. I mean with the timing. Now, if he's
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: not practicing in a week now, then I start going, Okay,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: now we're starting to beat up against this the clock.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Your point is different, and maybe more important is the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: repetition on his technique and his footwork and his craft.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: He is way behind and which is what we had
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: said in the past. He had some issues with the times. Right, yes,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: so a lot if he's behind on that already, and
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I think and I think, uh, first of all, John
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Taylor has looked good at right tackle with the exception
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: of the false starts today and they're right, they're pretty
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: close to and we're back to back and uh. But
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: other than that, he's big, he's strong, he moves people.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: He's got some things that he's got to work on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: front pass, pro get his hands inside kind of he's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: kind of an outside hands. Good feet, and but he does.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: He's got great feet. And the thing I don't get
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: about the false starts, because he's we talked about this
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: all the way after I watched this film from college,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: was that he cheats like that. He doesn't need it.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: He doesn't need to get the jump, so to speak,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: out of his stance in past protection, which is that's
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: when he's false starting. His feet are so good. He's fine.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: He's fine. I feel like a new man. He's telling
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: you right now. And for whatever reason, he has a
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: tendency to try to get out early. And I think
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: for this football team just letting him be a right
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: tackle and then letting oh boy, he get the reps
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: that left tackle and then eventually allowing Cam Robinson to
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: come back when he's ready and allowing those two to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: work itself out of who's gonna play left tark what
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: if a way he's better then he plays. I mean,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: that's there's nothing wrong with that. Hopefully he was a
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: first round pick. Okay, he has first round talent big
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't like the Cincinnati Bengals were the only
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: team that thought that way. He was a first round talent.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: He just needs more physical gosh, he just has to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: get physical. And one thing about a bay. He looks
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: good and then all of a sudden he has a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: play where he looks bad. Now I'm in the past. Now,
• 1:13:36
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• 1:13:40
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• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: that's been as kind of a m O when he
• 1:13:44
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• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: little bit more of a of an edge, a little
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: toughness to him and the way he competes. So but
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I mean physically talent wise, I mean he is a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: first round talent. There's no questioning that he has physical talent.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: We'll come back. Just coffee is so good. I'm glad
• 1:14:02
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  Speaker 1: meet the officials. Well, the officials, what does that have
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  Speaker 1: They did that in Jacksonville. I noticed you weren't there,
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  Speaker 1: anything shocking? What do they say about the rules, anything shocking?
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  Speaker 1: The emphasis on any blind side block is going to
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: be called. And they said that if any uh blocker
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: is moving parallel or towards their own line of scrimp,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's considered a peal back. That's and so they
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: showed parallel even yes, and they showed a couple examples
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: of it. I don't like that, and uh, you know,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: it's pretty easy kind of figure out. Basically what they
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  Speaker 1: want you to do now is just getting getting the way,
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  Speaker 1: kind of catching the person instead of delivering it. You
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  Speaker 1: can still hit them, you just getting knocked them. You
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  Speaker 1: can buy the hands hands or separation or catch them
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  Speaker 1: or kind of block them off on your backside of Tony.
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  Speaker 1: Anything with an elbow to any part of the body
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  Speaker 1: is considered illegal, even if you're going straight in. Even
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: if you're going straight in, So what's the player If
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  Speaker 1: the player doesn't see you, If they see you, you
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: should strike him with your head, helmet, shoulder or form penalty.
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  Speaker 1: But they see you, then his queen. No, if it's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: blind side block, if it's yeah, if it's not parallel,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: if you're going the right direction, you can. But that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: was an emphasis and any other thing too. They they
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: talked again about contact and then they had they had
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  Speaker 1: one particular highlight in the film because they show you
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  Speaker 1: an instruction on film and then afterwards you have questions
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  Speaker 1: the Q and a session. And I asked the guy
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  Speaker 1: because they had one example on there that was head
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: contact and it was an offensive lineman, I think it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: was a Jets offensive lineman, and it was basically, uh,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: backside guard pulling front side, like on the counter or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and he makes contact with the defensive back that was
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: coming in off of the edge, and the offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: is lowering his body and in the process his face
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  Speaker 1: man excuse what contacts the defensive back penalty. They use
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: that as an example that that would be a penalty
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: and I and I asked the officials that were there,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, you know that one that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: you should showed with the Jets offensive lineman. I said
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: that kind of to me just looks like natural football.
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  Speaker 1: As an official, would you call that? And his answer
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: was kind of not just committed. I was not not committed.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: He basically had the appennies said, look, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a judgment call, which I kind of interpreted
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• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't call that, you know. So if this is gonna
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: be one of those things again, is that which officials?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: And they also made the point in that in that
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: meeting that you know, if they see the aftermath of
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: that hit, they can't call. They have to see the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: actual contact, the whole hit to everything. They also talked
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: about is that if you have have about they're making
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: the emphasis about ejections this year, So if you have
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: what is an egregious hit that they're talking about ejecting guys,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: And they said that that New York can also chime
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: in and throw a guy out of the game, which
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: so all of a sudden, official gets buzzed in his
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: ear and it's New York. New York might tell him.
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  Speaker 1: And New York is the head officiating Al riveraon back
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  Speaker 1: He could chime in and say, look, you need to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: throw fifty one out for that contact that you know,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: whether it was a penalty or not, it does not
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: have to be a penalized play for a player to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: be thrown out of the game. And he needed We
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: didn't see it all last year, and they said the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: same thing last year. That's what he said the foot
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: you can throw somebody out for a football act this
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: year for a football yes, So that's that's my that's
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the difference about this this thing about Look, if you
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: make contact and much and it's bad, you can throw
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: a guy out. But he also said that two people
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: can determine whether to throw somebody out. The officials that
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: are on the field can throw a guy out, but
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: it has to be confirmed by New York and then
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: New York can decide to throw somebody out. So the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: official that's on running the game can't decide. We're throwing
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: fifty one out. We're not talking to New York. All
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: the ejections have to go through New York. In the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: wild thing and I was reading on this is on
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: the rules with the p I that you could challenge
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  Speaker 1: p I. The officials school look at it and say, no,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: it wasn't defensive PASTI inferience, but it was offensive passive inferience.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: The entire plays review the interference, but but it doesn't
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: make the play reviewable another aspect just p I, just
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: the past interference and it could go either way. And
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: that's at any point in the game. Now, after two minutes,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: I think that all two point plays are now reviewed
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: from the booth. They are not gonna be challengeable from
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: the where before that's a scoring plays. Now it's automatically
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: reviewed because it's considered a scoring for world. Before they
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: never that it was a challengeable play. So now it's
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: not a chan p I is gonna be wild because
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  Speaker 1: if you think about it, let's say you're four minutes
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: left in the game, you have to challenges left and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: you're down. Literally she just call and say, hey, listen,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I want you to throw it up making a jump
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  Speaker 1: ball or make it not to bomb and I'm throwing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm throwing the challenge flag. You got to try to
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  Speaker 1: get an interferent defensive past inherent in a spot foul,
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  Speaker 1: get a fifty yard plate out of the field, fifty
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  Speaker 1: yard penalty or penalty. However, I follow the ball travels
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  Speaker 1: where the penalty is committed. Man, it's gonna be an interesting,
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  Speaker 1: interesting year when it comes that. One doesn't bother me
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  Speaker 1: as much. I'm telling you this, all eleven players helped.
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  Speaker 1: The helmet stuff is just boy, I just I said
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  Speaker 1: it last year when they introduced this. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: necessarily helmet to helmet. Now they're they're talking leading with
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: your helmet, any helmet. It was like that last year
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  Speaker 1: as well, because that's where the when Markesley it was out,
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  Speaker 1: they pedalmized him because he lived with his helmet into
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: the Marquis nee Um. But he actually made contact with
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  Speaker 1: his shoulders when we saw it. That's my whole it's
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  Speaker 1: such a it's an impossible play to officiate at the
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  Speaker 1: speed these guys are going. And so like, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to add something to review, put that as a
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  Speaker 1: as a reviewable play that anytime I college does if
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: it's helmet helmets automatically if they call a helmet helmet
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  Speaker 1: or leaning with the helmet or whatever reviewable. I know
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  Speaker 1: that I'm saying what they should do though, because it's
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: such a bang bang play. This is where I think
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  Speaker 1: College gets it right that every time that happens they
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: review it and to confirm whether it was the kind
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: of interesting because you know the official when I asked him.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, me and Joe Fortuna were walking down the
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  Speaker 1: hall with the officials and then we asked the guy
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  Speaker 1: about um, the helmet helmet content or helmet leading with
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the helmet penalty and asked him if it was reviewable,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and he says no, he said, it is not reviewable
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  Speaker 1: because it's a judgment called. Well, so it's p I exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, past interference is truly a judgment. How do
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: you realized, Jeff Halftime, these guys talking circles, well, and
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: it's not the officials. No, I'm not. I'm not mad
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: at them saying if the league is making it incredibly
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: impossible for these officials possible to call a game, they're
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: adding a few more things into its plate. I mean,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I'll argue all day long, it is impossible to call helmet,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: the helmet or leading with the helm accurately in Bang
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: bang plays, because we see it all the time where
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: they make the penalty on the quote unquote defensive receiver
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: leading with the helmet or head contact and then you
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: watch it this Lomo and it's a perfect textbook shoulder
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: to the chest of the receiver, but the head snaps
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: back and so it looks like helm with the helmet
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: they got. I'm gonna say it every year. I said
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: it last year. I gonna say it again. They have
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: to review that play. Let's come back. We'll get into
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the tight end room as we promised. I like the
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: conversation on the rules. Sorry about that. I'm excited off tomorrow,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: so we're not gonna have you toot um. I let
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: me see if if they're actually taping it. And so
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: it's actually starting at the end of practice here, and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: I told him I might be late, and so I
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: think what I'm asking to do is to tape it
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: archiving for me so I can watch it and then
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I can't win. Well, we'll figure it out tomorrow. That
• 1:27:28
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  Speaker 1: tight end talk and Tony you said this is Uh,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: what did you say? A pleasant surprise? A pleasant surprise,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: that's what you said? Pleasant right now? Yes? Um, Like
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: all you can judge it by is like did did
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: they get better than they were last year? And this
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: is this room is better last year and a week
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: and a half a camp, Yes, it's better. Like Swain is.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: There was no tight end on this rush last year
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: who was as good as Swain. And I've been pleasantly
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: surprised with you know how he's run routes. He's a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's a He's not great or anything, but
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: I've been like, he's he You can win football games
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  Speaker 1: with Jeff Wayne as you're starting tight end. I think
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: the kid Charles Jones, I mean I think him. I
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: think he makes it um worst case, he's a pass squad,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: big physical guy, moves well. Uh Josh Oliver stretched the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: tight end. He can't stretch the field, can't block anybody.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: But I like him as a receiver get to the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: hammy right. But yeah, and then you probably then probably
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: your fourth guy on the roster is gonna be James
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: O shaunsa It's probably gonna be your fourth tight end.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: If you keep four. You didn't even mention Ben Kayak,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the roster. I think it's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be uh A tough, a tough decision to make
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: there because you know, I mean, first of all, Charles Jones.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: So far, I think if he continues and obviously we're
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: gonna play a game yet, right, but if if he
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: continues to show what we've seen and he shows it
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: in a game, he's making a case for a roster
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: spot for himself as a true Why tight end. So
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: far in camp, from what we've seen in a week
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: and a half is that he has shown to be
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: the best true on the line of scrimmage blocking tight end,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: so and who else competes for that type of role.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Swain is a move guy. Swam can play in line,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: you can do both, but he's more of a more
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: of a move guy CAT six four to six. He's
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: not a small dude. Josh Oliver is a move guy.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: He's like an a wide receiver. Koyak and Jones are
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: really the true Why type tight ends, which is on
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage type of tight end or Shaughnessy. Uh.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: You don't really want him lining up next to a
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: tackle and trying to block a big defensive end. It's
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: he'd be a little bit outmatched. So you don't have
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are going to be competing
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: for that type of role. So it's a it's a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: good place for Charles Jones to be in as an
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: undrafted rookie trying to make a team is for that
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: type spot. So maybe the attorney's right. I mean, the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: room is better than what it was last year. And uh,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be better for another reason
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: that the quarterback plays to be better in the quarterback
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: likes tight ends. He's shown that his bad We've seen
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit about out of O'Shaughnessy. You know what
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: do you like about him? I know that he's told
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: me he was like third or fourth in your list
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, and can he improve upon that? I
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: think he's in above average special teams guys that that's
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: gonna help us. Uh. He's just not real physical to me.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: I mean he's not gonna you know, he's getting your
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: way blocking. Um, he's aid okay receiver, but he's not
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: like an elite athlete like Josh Oliver camp block. But
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: he can fly down the field and he and he
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: catches everything that's even in the same zip code that
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: he is in, and so he kind of makes up
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: with the fact that, you know, at least this year,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: you're not getting a lot of physicality out of the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: kid um and so shann As he doesn't stand out
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: for me at one aspect, like the covers something else.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's on the roster because I think he's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: a good all around special news player and he can
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: He's dependable, like you know, Sunday you're gonna show up
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: and as Shaunessy's gonna be, I mean he's gonna come
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: out and play um where Kayak I don't have that
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: same confidence injuries, you know, up and down. He's not
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a very good special team not a great because he
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't run great and Shaunessy runs better. So that's why
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: I would put O'Shaughnessy ahead of Kayak. For me, I mean,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: it's swain Is one Oli verse two, and then if
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I had to, I probably put Shaunasy three, and then
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Charles Jones the rookie at four, Kayak five, and then Arnsberger.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: It's really more of a fullback than a tight end.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: But I was talking to Ron Middleton, the tight end
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: coach today before practice and we were talking about Charles
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Jones a little bit and he and he agreed with
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: me that it's not very often that you see a
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: rookie tight end come in and see the hands, and
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Joan Taylor and that he needs to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: work on his hands. Well, Charles Jones is this rookie
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: tight end. His hands are good. I mean, he knows
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: where to put him, he gets him inside. He's got
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: strong hands, He's got strong arms, and that's something that
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: typically takes a little bit of time to You know,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when guys was playing a tight
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: end the college level, they can get away was not
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: being detailed on the hands because they're just superior athletes.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: At the NFL level, it doesn't work that way. You
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: gotta have good placement of the hands, no matter how
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: good of an athlete you are, no matter how big
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: or strong you are. That was one of the reasons
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: why Zeus Orlando Brown Senior, who was a right tackle
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: for the for the Baltimore Ravens and the Cleveland Browns
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: for a long period of time, who I went against.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: He was a three hundred and sixty pound tackle, but
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: I could stand him up or three D fifty pounds
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. Onney he was big, I mean
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: a big, strong, mean dude now, but I was a
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: two D sixty pound defensive end. But I stand him
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: up because he didn't have hand placement left inside. He
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: was always outside, and so a lot of people they
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: never learn it. Some people have a natural gift for it.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: And Charles Jones has a gift for for hand placement
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: and does a good job with it. And and hopefully
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor learns the same type of thing because that's
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: that's what will make him a really good offensive lineman
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Interesting stuff for the tight
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: ends there. Today we did see a flipping the other
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: side of the balling on defense. We saw a linebacker
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: go down today. I think it was during a special
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: teams drill. If I remember, right On Wallo who was
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: with a strong side and him and uh Leon Jacobs
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: are code number one first team strong side linebacker if
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: you're into that. But On Wallo went down with an
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: apparent three today. Yeah, carted off the first first real
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: major I believe it. Well, he haven't heard from because
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: we don't know what it was, but he got carted off.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: They get card off. It looks significant, but I hope
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: it's not. We hope it's not. I mean, we've seen
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: guys at card off before and it's a bone bruise
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: or something that scares you, but you're okay, here for
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: the best. But it's not. It's never positive when you
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: get to a card on. Walu I think was in
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: the lead for that same linebacking more athletic than and
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: uh and appeared to have I mean, look, when when
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: you have a returning starter and he's coming back and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: what did the what did the depth chart say, JP
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: started Leon slash James team, What does that tell you?
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: You got a guy that was a returning starter from
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: last year. They bring in a new guy and he's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: already a co starter. What's that telling you that he's
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: a co starter? No, it's telling you that he's actually
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: beating out the old starter. But they haven't committed to
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: doing it yet because they haven't played in the game.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: You know. So essentially, if if he's gonna miss any time,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: and we don't know how, but if he misses a
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I mean you're down right now. Two starters. Well,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: the one thing two had a three starters, well two
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: out of three of the lineback there's three linebackers on
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: the Sam a will because I think it's a stretch
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: to say considering him a starter right now. We have
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: not played like a lot of this stuff we're talking
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: about right now literally could change by degrees when we're
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: talking next Monday, after Thursday night, because you're gonna see
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: these guys for the first time in the game situation.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Who that's all these guys, but not those two guys
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: that are hurt. I understand that. But whether it's a
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: tight end I'm talking in our general conversation we've had tonight,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: whether it's the receiving corps, the tight ends, offensive line,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: You're gonna see all these people in game situations the
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: next four weeks, really three weeks. His last preseason is
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: a throw away nowadays, and that's where you're gonna turn
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: where they can play or not. I can't, it's can't.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: I can't tell you many times I've been in camp
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  Speaker 1: and you have like two or three guys that are
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: just wowing you in practice and then all of a
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: sudden you get into the game and like they don't
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: exist any longer, like what happened, Like they can't They
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: can do in practice because it's situational and they know,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: like they know it's one on one pass rush, or
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: they know it's nine on seven, or they know it's
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: this situation. But all of a sudden, when you have
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  Speaker 1: to use your brain and react to what's happening on
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: the field in front of you, they can't make plays
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, offense or defense. So
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. I mean, we're talking about being
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: down two or three starters on I mean, I don't
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: buy that now the rookie was gonna start at will,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: So I agree. I agree with that. That's one and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: they're hoping it happened back week one. Is they sound
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: confident on that, but you know, he's still a rookie.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: He's still a rookie. Like I A lot's gonna play
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: out in these first few three season games and kind
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: of solidify some of these questionable spots, whether it's you know,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: how what's the wide receiver rotation look like? You know,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be the backup running back? Um, you're gonna
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: have to address linebacker depth now for for camp. I
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: agree with that. To have a body in there, it
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: would be interesting to see tight end. Is this Charles
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Jones as he can? He can't wait? Sam? Can you
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: do it in a game situation? Want to see good
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I want to see this is going to be the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: will linebacker'll tell you. I want to see. Want to
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: see Josh Allen. I want to see how he reacts
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: in the game situation. I don't think that would be
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think so either. But I've been
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: wrong before very few times. But okay, I'm happened, but
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: not with him, not with me. Usually I'm not usually wrong,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm like you. I want to bring up the
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  Speaker 1: list of people that we've had to or generational people. Okay,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: we're going back to the short you keep going back
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: to that one. Good on many. I'm gonna quiz YouTube
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: head coaches here. If you're the head coach of this
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: football team Thursday night, how long does your let's say
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: you're starting defensive line play. They don't play, they don't
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: they don't even play. So, uh, I play I, I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: probably I play Abri, I play Tavin Bryant, I don't
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: play Clays and Snap. I don't think I played Marcel.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: I might play Marcel just because he's played more three
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: technique this year, just to give a couple of reps,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: but probably not. You know what he's got though, yeah,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: probably not um Josh Allen playing he's a rookie. I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: need to get in reps and go way. I'm not
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: putting out there. Nope, I'm not playing out there. I'm
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: not playing Jalen. I'm playing my linebackers, playing my safeties.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: I'm playing my safeties. I'm not playing Miles Jack I am.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not. You are? Yes, why not? I'm paying You
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: got left and then offed of Lee. I'm playing Foles
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: this series one series I'm not playing I would play.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: I would play Leonard a series too. I mean, it's
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: not like this guy. I don't think Leonard's earned the
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  Speaker 1: right to be in the feature back where he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: play all preseason and in that case you're gonna play
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: the Has he earned the right? No? No, But is
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  Speaker 1: he your starter and is he going to be your
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  Speaker 1: bell cow? And is he gonna be nat important part
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: of this offense yet? But I mean he can take
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: a Kerry one series made too offensive line starting because
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: long absolutely and they're gonna play past Nick Foles. I
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't play Lender past nick Foles. I would not play
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  Speaker 1: uh everyone else I'd played past Nick Foles besides Lender.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, he Taylor Taylor Taylor and played a quarter
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: and a half. Like he's getting reps out there. I'm
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: playing a way he a quarter and a half. Two
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: he needs reps and left tackle. He's mainly right tackle
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: my tight end group and playing my wide receivers. I'm
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: playing no special circumstances there. So that's kind of how
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  Speaker 1: I would do it. Who do you put at center
• 1:45:09
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• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: That's the absolutely a J Camps. And then I put
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: seventy what's the big cat's name? Uh uh, Brandon Thomas.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: He's playing more left young player from Clemson that pretty well,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: pretty big physical guy, and mainly because you need to
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: get Linda out, but then you also need to get
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: you know who else. I Actually I wouldn't put Brandon
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: talk because he's been playing me left tackle, left guard,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: hasn't he not? Brandon Thomas? I put Willson in there,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, that's the guy that has been impressing
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: me every days he's on the roster. If he doesn't
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: get he's on the roster. Oh, that's not even a
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: I mean a decision. Right now, he's he's a lock.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: He might start a guard. He might might start a guard.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: He might compete for a starting right guard spot. How
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: about on point he's shown that much. Now I'm not
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: saying opening day, but it maybe is the year goes on.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: I some somebody's play is not up to one thing.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: Will does. Man, he is physical, he comes off the ball,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: rolls his hips as well. Um, I mean he would
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: have I mean, here's the thing. If Will Richardson would
• 1:46:20
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• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: he probably would have been some start. He would have
• 1:46:25
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• 1:46:27
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• 1:46:31
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• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: All right, by the end of the year, you don't
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: think you would have got starting reps. I mean maybe, yeah,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm not saying opening day by no, I'm saying,
• 1:46:41
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  Speaker 1: About that. What's amazing to me is how fast the
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  Speaker 1: year ago, because I mean the Super Bowl felt like yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: And next thing, you know, because of how the off
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  Speaker 1: shall we? And I said, I'm not funny? That's that's accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady agreeing to a two year extension with the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots two years, seventy million dollars. It raises just twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen salary from fifteen million to three million. He's scheduled
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: to make thirty million and twenty and thirty two million one.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be under contract now through his age forty four season.
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  Speaker 1: What how many guarantee? How much guarantees did he get
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  Speaker 1: in that seven That's one thing I haven't seen anything
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  Speaker 1: is guaranteed money. If I haven't seen that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you would think that he'd have guarantees, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I thought I saw something today that it's
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed through Okay, so this year and next year, So
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  Speaker 1: that guarantee that's I want to say. I saw that
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  Speaker 1: on ESPN somewhere, or maybe I don't know, I saw
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  Speaker 1: basically an eight million dollar raised this year and then
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  Speaker 1: and then thirty million next year. And if that's guarantee,
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  Speaker 1: that's thirty eight million of new money and then one
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  Speaker 1: year and then that the last year to throw away
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: a year anyway, I mean, unless he hits it right,
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything that Tom Brady has done that says
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  Speaker 1: he won't play until he's forty four? I mean every
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  Speaker 1: year you kind of expect to see a little bit
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: of a backwards tick in this play and you don't
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  Speaker 1: see it. And here's the thing physically physically with I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm not who. I'm not saying with who made
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  Speaker 1: a deal? I mean I was talking to Chris Pauling
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Today's when we bring this up. How about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that if you were picking quarterbacks for one year this year,
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  Speaker 1: three of your top four picks, three of your top
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: five picks over forty years old. Drew Brees over forty.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Uh pick man, I mean, not Tom Brady over atty.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Philip Rivers is either thirty nine or
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: right at forty. Okay, I mean ten years ago, you
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  Speaker 1: would not even think of anyone playing at a high
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: level in this league. Overt and now arguably too of
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in this league. Brady and Breeze still
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: doing it, still doing itty one amazing, that's nuts. And
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: uh and and Brady said that he put on a
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: little bit more weight to take the hits, take the pounty.
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  Speaker 1: He never gets hit. He gets hit, don't hit a lot.
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  Speaker 1: He don't get hit and get he gets through the
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  Speaker 1: ball so fast, exactly right. He knows how to take
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  Speaker 1: care of his own body from the pocket. He does
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  Speaker 1: a good Job's amazing, I mean, great player. There's no
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  Speaker 1: way ten years ago I would have said that the
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  Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league are gonna be over forty
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: years old. What is Tom Brady truly deserve to be
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: paid if there was no salary cap? No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: Even with a salary cap, I mean you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of the whole time. I mean, doesn't
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: need him, none of this, really doesn't he deserve forty
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: And my question is this, are they paying him on
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: the side? Uh not? My My question is this, are
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: there who are the New England Patriots paying to where
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: they can't pay him over twenty or night eighteen a
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: year the corner. Who else? Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like they got a roster full of guys
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: that are getting paid a ton of money, and so
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: that's why. And then and then you always read about
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: how the Patriots are fairly close to the cap and
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going, how's that possible? Who are they paying? It's
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: not like they have a ton of guys. I mean,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: I just I get the feeling that they just they
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: like for when they have, you know, because when certain
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: teams have unspent cap space, they can forward it into
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: the next year. I get the feeling that the Patriots
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: just like now and we're not going to do that.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: We don't want to spend. We don't want to have
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: to spend it. Got Tom Brady, we don't need to
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: spending on anybody else. They're amazing, But I mean he's
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: a he's a forty million dollar a year quarterback. Trying
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: to think offensive line wise. I haven't paid anyone really, No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they let him all go right, need Solder walked,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: Trent Brown left, Um, yeah, I mean they didn't. But
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: the two guards make decent money. They make good money,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: but I think they're both like ten. But I mean today,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do we pay Norwell fourteen fourteen fifteen,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: something like that, So it's still not yeah amazing. Got
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: a little heat a at Broncos camp today between their
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: own team. Emmanuel Sanders and Courtland Sutton got into a
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: skirmish during practice on the same side of the water
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: bottles at each other. Isn't Sanders coming off the achilles?
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Did you tear as achilles? Or is a c l?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Which one was it? I don't remember. He got hurt
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: last year. I'm pretty sure the receiver. Yeah, yeah, he's
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: coming back from an injury, but I don't remember exactly
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: what will frustration usually don't second week at camp, but
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: you don't usually see the same guys in the same position.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: We've seen it here, well it's last year. Remember the
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: whole dust up ad for video that was done saying
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: that's right. In the years we've been here in twenty
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: four years of football. First one doesn't happen like offensive
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: defensive lignement fight all the time Corners and received. I mean,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: you go at it with the group you're working against,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: but not your own position group That that's not a
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: good sign when you have worked well for us last year.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: That's the same position fighting not good, not good, not
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: at all before the first Well, they've already played a
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: preseason game, but they're a second game coming up next
• 1:57:32
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• 1:57:37
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• 1:57:40
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• 1:57:46
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• 1:57:51
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  Speaker 1: was always gracious with his time at national events, at
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  Speaker 1: the Combine, anything we needed him, he was very helpful.
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  Speaker 1: John Ocean knows him very well. Frank Frazie knows him
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  Speaker 1: well from his past in the state of Florida. But
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  Speaker 1: nice man gone away too soon, so I knew Don
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  Speaker 1: did several interviews with them, talking to him multiple times
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  Speaker 1: last year. Would see him around the Super Bowl. Most
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  Speaker 1: most people know him the longtime writer for Sports Illustra,
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  Speaker 1: Sports Illustrati and then he was working for the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: and doing some stuff on the side. Just got the
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  Speaker 1: job with the Las Vegas Journal to cover the Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: and he was super excited about it. And uh, I
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  Speaker 1: mean people, everyone was shocked because I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: he was sick, there was nothing going on, just went
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  Speaker 1: to bed and never woke up. And and the great
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  Speaker 1: thing reading what a legacy he left, because if you
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  Speaker 1: read everything written about him to a person, the thing
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  Speaker 1: what everyone says of how good he was to everyone
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  Speaker 1: around him, regardless of their position, popular, not popular, He
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  Speaker 1: was consistently a good person to other people. And that's
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  Speaker 1: quite a legacy and very sad and uh shocking. Banks
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  Speaker 1: passed away and the NFL lost um. Also another favorite son,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak of the Jaguars, Mike Maser, who was
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  Speaker 1: Tony's offensive line coach with the Jaguars in the early years,
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  Speaker 1: and he was laid to rest just as just just
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  Speaker 1: this week. So uh, it's uh, that's tough, alright, guys,
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  Speaker 1: back at it tomorrow one o'clock practice. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: show at four o'clock on Jaguars dot Com. Jeff Flagerman
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  Speaker 1: Tony was Sally. I'm JP Shattrick thanks for our entire
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