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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs Cincinnati Game Recap (Episode 748) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: I certainly hope that your day is going well as
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  Speaker 1: we're ready to roll. It's three guys before the game,
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia and Cincinnati on the football field, West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: and the Maryland Terrapins on the basketball court and more.
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  Speaker 1: This is episode number 748. All three guys present, assembled,
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  Speaker 1: and ready to do whatever in the world it is
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  Speaker 1: that we do.
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  Speaker 1: 87 points at the ball yard on Saturday. And over
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  Speaker 1: all Mountaineers including you I said it was an interesting
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  Speaker 1: weekend on the text line because you had West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: and that seesaw football game with Cincinnati and people I
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  Speaker 1: don't know exactly what urge makes you do it since
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  Speaker 1: we record on Sundays but you send in game texts.
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  Speaker 2: You can play the whole game yeah Which is a
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  Speaker 2: great advantage, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Going forward, I just want to wait until it's over,
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  Speaker 1: because then I get a lot of texts that say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: disregard my previous text from about 90 minutes ago. So
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  Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do. Like Chuck Berry said,
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  Speaker 1: it's a free world, man. You be who you want
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  Speaker 1: to be. You do you.
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  Speaker 3: You do you, man.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump on in. As I said at
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  Speaker 1: the start, a couple of things to get into. Firstly,
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  Speaker 1: we have the football game, the losing streak over for
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia. The Mountaineers get their first league win, and
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  Speaker 1: in the process, equal last season's win total. You now
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  Speaker 1: have four. You got four with five to go. The
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  Speaker 1: much-needed off week coming up after this weekend's visit to
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  Speaker 1: the Frogs of TCU. I like that TCU beat Baylor.
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  Speaker 1: Very emotional game for them. They hate the Baylors.
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  Speaker 3: I do like they won that one. Correct. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like that TCU's defense looked pretty good. And held what
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  Speaker 3: had been a pretty good passing attack in check.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two field goals.
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  Speaker 3: Because as you know, West Virginia's got the best passing
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  Speaker 3: offense in America. That's what Rich is known for. Air
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  Speaker 3: Rich made an appearance. So TCU's defense is starting to
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  Speaker 3: show a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball-wise, we went over the mountain and watched Ross Hodges'
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  Speaker 1: second group of young men in his second season participate
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  Speaker 1: in a basketball exhibition contest. against the University of Maryland.
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  Speaker 3: Was that an exhibition? Because I was going to say today,
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  Speaker 3: I hate getting knocked out in the round of Sweet
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  Speaker 3: 16 like that.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, you know what I always say? There's nothing in
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  Speaker 2: basketball like October exhibition madness.
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  Speaker 3: During the broadcast, I said to Tony, is this March
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  Speaker 3: or October here?
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  Speaker 2: I heard you say that. You guys were just– it
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  Speaker 2: was like a conference game in February with something on
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  Speaker 2: the line. I mean, that's what it sounded like with
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  Speaker 2: you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Well– Yeah, it was. We got a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about within this basketball game. Right off the bat, you
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  Speaker 1: get bat officiating right to start the season.
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  Speaker 2: How many fouls were there? The game just ended, didn't it?
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  Speaker 2: How many fouls were there?
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  Speaker 1: What was the final?
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  Speaker 3: I think 60 free throw attempts in the game.
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  Speaker 2: But it's okay when you make 90% of your free throws.
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  Speaker 1: 44 fouls in the game. The Maryland's took 34. The
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  Speaker 1: West Virginian's took 24.
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  Speaker 3: As I often say, you get your good free throw
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  Speaker 3: shooters to the line, your team free throw percentage is
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  Speaker 3: going to be pretty good. Finley, Miles, Somersville, good line,
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  Speaker 3: they make free throws.
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  Speaker 2: Finley was 8 for 8, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Miles was perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into it. There were some things you pull
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  Speaker 3: out of there, and for an exhibition, I thought it
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  Speaker 3: did exactly what Ross was trying to get out of
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  Speaker 3: the exhibition, what he thought was there, the points that
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  Speaker 3: you need to teach in the areas you need to
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  Speaker 3: get better in. We're illustrated last night, so that will work.
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  Speaker 3: But there's also some really, there's some positives to pull
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  Speaker 3: out of that. There's some dudes over there.
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  Speaker 2: I love the fact that, and Brad, you admitted it,
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  Speaker 2: you were holding back. You were going to, two or
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  Speaker 2: three games in, you were going to come in with
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  Speaker 2: your Somerville Intel.
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  Speaker 3: Somerville, yeah. Somerville.
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  Speaker 2: Somerville Intel. I was going to give you that. You
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  Speaker 2: know who we're not talking about enough?
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  Speaker 3: It's Martin Somerville, and he comes out of the first
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  Speaker 3: half and just, blah, blah, blah, blah, starting to launch it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later on. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things are going on. West Virginia, football-wise, as you all know,
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  Speaker 1: it's TCU this week. It's a noon start here. It's
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  Speaker 1: an 11 a.m. start there. West Virginia finally will get
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  Speaker 1: into this week of preparation coming off of a W.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a while since they were able to do that,
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  Speaker 1: and the game in itself was was just a wow,
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  Speaker 1: 87 points. I didn't have the opportunity yet to look
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  Speaker 1: back on it. To my recollection, it's the first time
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  Speaker 1: that I can remember scores literally being answered in consecutive
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  Speaker 1: fashions from 7s to 14s to 21s to 28s to 35s, 40s.
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  Speaker 1: So the Baylor 70-63, I don't know if there was
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  Speaker 1: ever the.
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma 2018, Kyler Murray, Will Greer would be one to examine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one.
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  Speaker 3: That was in the 50s, both teams, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: back and forth. I don't know that, but that would
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  Speaker 3: be one to put on the list.
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  Speaker 1: But that was very... This team... This West Virginia team
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  Speaker 1: continues to do unusual things.
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  Speaker 2: And not taking the lead until three seconds left.
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  Speaker 3: Really not even three seconds. You were behind it three seconds.
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  Speaker 3: You took the lead at zero.
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  Speaker 1: Every week, this team has done something that makes you
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  Speaker 1: go to the record book for one reason or another,
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  Speaker 1: either the positive or the negative. So we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how you do it. It just matters
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  Speaker 1: that you get it and you got it. And so
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  Speaker 1: we move on. Let's jump in. Time now. For the
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  Speaker 1: thing that people like the most, Hoppy's Obvious Observations.
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  Speaker 2: He's got thoughts that sound brand new, but they're things
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  Speaker 2: we already knew. He's got his lip.
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  Speaker 1: Balm ready, heaven knows.
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  Speaker 3: Let's make it quick before.
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  Speaker 2: His bladder blows. It's Hoppy's Obvious Observations.
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy's Obvious Observations are sponsored by no one.
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  Speaker 2: No one.
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  Speaker 1: No one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we said WV was in a must-win situation. Talked
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  Speaker 2: to the fans, Brad, at the tailgate Friday and Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody agreed it was a must-win, and they won. So, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's the most obvious thing. You needed a win, you
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  Speaker 2: had to win, and you won. And a thrilling, thrilling
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  Speaker 2: second half. I think, Tony, in reference to what you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: the word for this team is exciting. Exciting. It's exciting
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  Speaker 2: when they're on offense, and it's exciting when they're on defense.
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  Speaker 2: You can't look away. You cannot look away, right? Second half,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Because something's going to happen, right? Something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It might be really good, and it might be really bad,
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  Speaker 2: but something's going to happen. I looked. I did a
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  Speaker 2: cursory check. I'm not sure that any other team this
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  Speaker 2: weekend won a game And gave up over 620 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure that happened.
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  Speaker 3: Probably, right?
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  Speaker 2: Not sure that happened. West Virginia has scored 35 touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: this season. Only one other Big 12 team has scored more.
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  Speaker 2: Houston with 37. Now, a couple teams haven't played seven
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  Speaker 2: games yet. But still, you've scored 35 touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: Offense continues to be a wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The defense....
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  Speaker 2: The much-maligned defense still gave up a ton of points,
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  Speaker 2: gave up chunk plays. Brad, you'll have all these stats.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what? By golly, when they needed a stop,
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  Speaker 2: they got a stop. What have we been calling for?
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  Speaker 3: One stop.
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  Speaker 1: A stop.
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  Speaker 2: One stop. One stop. And when they needed it, they
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  Speaker 2: got a three and out.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and here's the other. I don't mean to interrupt
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  Speaker 3: your segment here.
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  Speaker 1: No, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: But our boy Ben Cutter, friend of the show, I
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  Speaker 3: tell you what, boys. That was a big-time hit. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the punter did an unbelievable job of getting that off
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  Speaker 3: and turning into a roll, which we'll get into at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the game here, which is remarkable. But
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  Speaker 3: Ben saved that one right there by making the hit
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  Speaker 3: and stopping the fake from getting a first down.
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  Speaker 2: I digress. I think with this defense, you can't get
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  Speaker 2: greedy and say, just shut a team down, but get
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  Speaker 2: a stop.
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  Speaker 3: Some strategic stops.
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  Speaker 2: Which they did. And then we'll talk about the fact
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  Speaker 2: in the punt that West Virginia goes 99, well, not
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  Speaker 2: 99 yards, but starts on room one, comes down, gets
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  Speaker 2: a field goal. And on a day when Cam Cook
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  Speaker 2: was held in check, like 40 yards, something like that,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Hawkins' passing was just superb, right? After kind of
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  Speaker 2: a slow first half passing, and then he gets hot.
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  Speaker 2: How hot was he?
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  Speaker 3: Air-rich. Air-rich.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness.
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  Speaker 3: How hot was he? Fifth best passing performance in school
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  Speaker 3: history for the nation's leading rusher as a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Those two big passes to Strawn, and one was on
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  Speaker 2: third down, and Strawn makes plays. I mean, that was just,
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  Speaker 2: that was thrilling. That was thrilling. So this week, my
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  Speaker 2: stats have him tied for the second best passing performance
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  Speaker 2: of any quarterback this past weekend. Tied with Kevin Jennings
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  Speaker 2: of SMU and behind Taven Jackson of North Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Neal's guy.
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  Speaker 2: Neal's guy.
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  Speaker 1: We saw him when he was at the UCFs.
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  Speaker 2: Rich Rod said about Hawkins, Mike never panics, and he
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  Speaker 2: was seeing the field pretty well, especially in the passing game,
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  Speaker 2: said the understated Rich Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 3: Say again with Hawkins, it's too bad this team doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a couple more wins because seriously, we would be
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  Speaker 3: up here pounding the desk about legitimate Heisman talk for
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  Speaker 3: this guy. The numbers he is putting up are remarkable. Remarkable.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into some of those coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Nine Mountaineers Tony called passes. Nine. They did. DJ Epps,
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  Speaker 2: just a dude, get him the ball.
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  Speaker 3: What a move he made.
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  Speaker 2: What a move, like multiple.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the one on the touchdown when he had four
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  Speaker 3: guys surrounding him and spun out of that scores into
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  Speaker 3: the end zone. Big boy move.
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  Speaker 1: Slippery as you are when the dinner check arrives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't know where to be found. So eight catches,
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  Speaker 2: 163 yards. That's a good day.
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  Speaker 3: Good day.
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  Speaker 2: So that's so encouraging. The run game's not working, and
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  Speaker 2: then the pass game just takes off and explodes.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that Cam Cook's 40-yard touchdown reception was
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  Speaker 1: the first receiving touchdown of his career?
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  Speaker 2: Get out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. First time he ever caught one and took it
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  Speaker 1: into the house. He had caught 56 passes in his
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  Speaker 1: career going into Saturday's game, zero touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: That surprises me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because he can go. I mean, you get that old
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  Speaker 1: guy on the wheel route, he'll finish it off.
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  Speaker 2: The crowd was not the largest, but it was engaged.
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  Speaker 2: Why was it engaged? Because the fans were there, really
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be there. They striped the stadium. And, Tony,
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  Speaker 2: when you have a game like that in a second,
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  Speaker 2: you can't leave. I mean, when you have a game
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  Speaker 2: like that in the second half, they were completely dialed in.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing made a difference.
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  Speaker 1: When you have a traffic jam when the game's over,
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  Speaker 1: it means it went down to the very end.
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  Speaker 3: It went out of the buzzer.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me if this sounds familiar. Cincinnati fans are very upset,
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  Speaker 2: worried about their defense, wondering about their coaching. Satterfield might
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  Speaker 2: be in some trouble.
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  Speaker 1: They've got four ranked teams coming up.
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  Speaker 2: He's only 19 and 24 there with the Cincinnati's. So...
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was coming into the stadium Saturday and,
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  Speaker 2: and this is kind of a downer after a win,
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  Speaker 2: but that, and you look, cause they do a wonderful
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  Speaker 2: job there of, of the history of Mountaineer football. And
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  Speaker 2: you're reminded of some of the great wins and great
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  Speaker 2: bowl wins. And it's, it's a, it's a special place
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  Speaker 2: for that. And then I got to thinking, okay, what
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  Speaker 2: has it been more recently? So I went back and
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  Speaker 2: I checked, uh, Over the last 10 seasons, Tony, WVU
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  Speaker 2: has been the definition of average. 65 and 65.
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  Speaker 1: Over the last 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: Last 10 years. Including Saturday's game. Including Saturday's game. They've
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  Speaker 2: been to six bowl games, but won two of them.
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  Speaker 2: The previous 10 years, 2006 to 2015, WVU was 84
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  Speaker 2: and 46. With only one losing season. And, of course,
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  Speaker 2: they had the Orange Bowl and Fiesta Bowl in there. So...
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia was, in my opinion, in the modern era,
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  Speaker 2: above average. They were eight, nine, ten wins, nine wins,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of bowl games, big bowl games, and they've
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  Speaker 2: just been average for the last ten years. And that
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  Speaker 2: to me is, I don't know what the, it's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of, it's disappointing because I don't expect this team to,
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  Speaker 2: play for, or win a national championship. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the expectation is to be above average. Above average. When
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  Speaker 2: you consider the resources, when you consider the fan support.
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  Speaker 2: And the last decade, they haven't been. They haven't been.
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  Speaker 2: And I just hope that you're on the cusp of
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  Speaker 2: being above average again. Agree or disagree?
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think West Virginia football changed when
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  Speaker 1: Bill Stewart was fired because at that point you had
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  Speaker 1: won nine, nine, and nine. And the entire vibe of
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  Speaker 1: the program at that point changed because just the culture
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  Speaker 1: of everything diametrically changed. How it was set up, how
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  Speaker 1: it felt, and what it was. And it has not
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  Speaker 1: been the same since.
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  Speaker 2: And then throw.
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  Speaker 1: In the world of the portal and NIL and COVID,
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  Speaker 1: and it put this program on its ear. And now
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  Speaker 1: we sit here in year two of Rich, and I
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  Speaker 1: agree that this program is on an upward trajectory at
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  Speaker 1: this moment.
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  Speaker 3: If you had.
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  Speaker 1: Any type of consistency on defense, if you were just
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  Speaker 1: 10th in the league, In defense, out of the 16
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  Speaker 1: schools right now, you're 6-1 and maybe 7-0. So that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case, but I think that you could make
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  Speaker 1: the case, based upon the offensive success and what special
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  Speaker 1: teams are doing, that you are just improvement away, which
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  Speaker 1: is doable. I don't know if it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: this year on defense. And you will be back to
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  Speaker 1: those numbers that you were talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's, if you're looking for the path forward,
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  Speaker 3: that's what you replicate is the job that was done
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  Speaker 3: in the evaluation on the offensive side of getting some
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  Speaker 3: dudes and some playmakers. You have to now replicate that
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  Speaker 3: on the, you have to retain, then you have to
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  Speaker 3: replicate that on the other side of the ball. And
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  Speaker 3: if you get there, because again, guys, and we said
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  Speaker 3: this last week, the improvement year over year from the
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  Speaker 3: offensive side of things is remarkable. Yes. The things we're
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  Speaker 3: having to talk about, the defense, you said last year
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  Speaker 3: at offense, and now a lot of that was injury-related
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  Speaker 3: at two major positions, and we understand that. But last year,
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  Speaker 3: that offense was tough to watch at times. You just
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  Speaker 3: couldn't get it going because you were down to your
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  Speaker 3: fifth quarterback and your sixth running back. And look at
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  Speaker 3: the change year over year and what you're doing and
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  Speaker 3: what your quarterback and running back and receiver are doing specifically.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the formula, and it's a lot easier to
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  Speaker 3: say that than it is to go do it. You're
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  Speaker 3: going to have to go get some guys defensively that
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  Speaker 3: can make a difference. You have to make guys make
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  Speaker 3: a difference, and you're going to have to hopefully retain
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: some of those younger guys so that they can play
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: in a system that they understand as well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Well, after seven games, you know, Mike Hawkins is a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: generational player.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Through seven, he absolutely has been.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: He just is. He just is. But you look at
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the things he does, and you feel like that even
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: when you give up 40 or plus, that as long
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: as you have Mike Hawkins... The supporting cast, certainly not
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the least of which came quick. Once you have Mike Hawkins,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you got a shot, right?
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You got a shot.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: That's how it's been so far this season.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Even that game Saturday when it became evident again you
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: were going to have trouble stopping them all day. You just, okay,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: get the ball back to three. Let's go. Go. Go
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to work.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So we'll talk more about that. Chaos in college football.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Never in the history of the AP poll have five
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: of the top seven teams lost on the same day.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. From a fan standpoint, just watching the games.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I thought the timing of that as the announcement came out,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: you're expanding your playoff field, couldn't have come at a
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: better time. I'm being serious. Instead of the old jacked-up
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: system where we only got two teams that could play
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: for a national title, now you show there's some parity
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: in this sport. Open the thing up, let's go.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's 24 teams parity.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It puts more teams in contention to
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: play for a national title. Why would we have it two?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Why would we have it four? Why would you limit that?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Put them out there. Let them play. There'll be more
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: important games. West Virginia will be involved in more games
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that matter in November than they've been the last few years.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Another discussion for later.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You guys were there. I listened to it, but you
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: guys were there, so you guys will talk about the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: basketball game more.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: You didn't spend the nine bucks? No.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know how to get it. I mean,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't know where it was available. I listened to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: you all.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Hop. Yeah, that was great.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I listened to the radio. Yeah, we appreciate that. Thank you.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And then I get a sense, I get a better
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: sense of what's going on by listening to you all.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you. One of the things that Ross Hodge told me.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Our boy name dropping.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I talked to him one time in six months.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: What did he tell you, Hoppy? What did Coach Hodge
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: tell you?
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: He told me he wanted to see how this team
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: would respond physically and when they got punched in the mouth.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: How would they respond?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: He told me that. I don't know that he told
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: anybody else. He did not say that to anybody else.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Exclusive breaking news.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Breaking news. And a great exhibition game because it was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a physical game. And WVU, as Ross Hodge said, the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: physicality is real. You feel it. It's a great learning lesson.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So it was, in many ways, and I'll defer to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you all, it was a really good exhibition game to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: have for this team.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Correct?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: That's correct.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Could not disagree at all. All right. 100%.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: One other thing.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: On this day. You going to give us a history?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: No, the College Sports Commission completed its review of the
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: first year of revenue sharing. Did you see that?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: No. Yeah. Bet you it's true.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Sure, all the information there is accurate.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, it's all accurate, yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody reported exactly what they're spending.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Lying frickin' dogs. Young men got exactly what we said
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they would get. Down to the final penny it is.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: This was handled by the accounting firm of Boobar, Boobar,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and Doobar.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Conley & Associates came in, Big A Accounting, and got
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: this exactly right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: This whole thing's been undermined now. There's no reason to
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: even say it. But The figure is it announced that $ 1. 8 billion, $ 1. 8
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: billion was shared between the schools and the athletes 2025-2026. 35,000
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: student-athletes at 307 schools across 33 conferences and 45 sports
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: received revenue-sharing funds. So whatever you believe, maybe the number's
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: a little loosey-goosey, but the point being, just take the $ 1. 8 billion,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and Tony, For all the money that has gone over
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the years to whatever, now you have a substantial amount
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of money going to the labor. That, to me, is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a good move.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You can make fun of the number all you want, but.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's... Once we find... Yeah, your point remains.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Your point remains, I think, yes.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Once we find a new normal of just handling that, then, yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you're right. Right now, we're in the turbulence. Like, if
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: we're on an airplane right now, it'd be bumpier than heck,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: but as the pilot oftentimes comes on, he'll say, We're
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: going to do our best to get you some clean
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: air coming up here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: In fairness, the changes have been so radical. It is
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: going to take a while to sort it out, okay?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I think in fairness. The point being that at least
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: now there is some beginning stages of quantifying the sharing
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: of the revenue with the labor.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Yep. Which also shows what a lot of people said
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: for years is there's no way you can continue to
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: pour the money into the sport that is being poured
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: into it. and not pay some of the players.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: That's also what that number shows me, is that that
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: statement for years and years before the players were paid illustrates, yeah, yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: this just in.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That should be in your obvious observations. They deserve part
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of this money.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. No doubt.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. Spreads on stats is coming up.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: A little historical significance. We've got the holiday season coming up.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: First big one is Thanksgiving, of course. It's crazy. Did
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: some research. Chad GPT. Looked into this Lou Wendell thing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh, here we go.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: You know, Lou's there now. Got a couple of his
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: sons that run the thing. This goes back ancestry-wise big.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Miles Wendell. Miles Wendell worked on the Mayflower right there
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts when they came in. Started the whole thing.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: The repairs?
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: The longest service. They came in right toward this time
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of year, right, and just come over, and they wanted
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: to put the ship away. for the winter season. They
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: know what's coming. And Lou Wendell now, right?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Did they get a depth finder for the Mayflower while
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: they were in there too? I think you can get
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: that at Lou Wendell.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Years and years later, Lou Wendell's still servicing boats as
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you take them out of the water, just like they
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: did for, well, Miles Wendell did it for Miles Standish.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And they're doing it today, right, in St.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Albans.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So if you need your boat serviced, taking it out
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of the water, whatever it might be, they're ready for
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you as you put your boat to sleep for the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: upcoming season. Winter season, get everything ready to go. Service, supplies,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: new boat. They're the only Honda Marine premium dealer in
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the state of West Virginia. It's Lewendl Marine Sales. Didn't
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Did not know that first. I've heard of that, in fact.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: One overall note here on football before we get into
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: the actual numbers. I thought offensively, you know, again, just wild.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: One of the nation's best rushing attacks ever. gets its
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: rushing attack kind of held in check. Get a lot
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: of credit since they all talk about their defense there,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: how they guarded, to use a basketball term, West Virginia's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: rush defense. They did a tremendous job. The flip side,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: the job by Rich and Travis Trickett in the offensive
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: scheme and play calling, elite, guys.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Elite.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati did a great job of controlling the inside zone
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: with the box, basically. And they kept those two safeties
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: back and high and rolled over. So they kept saying
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: to West Virginia, If you're going to beat us, you're
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: going to throw it underneath. And they were guarding deep,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: and they were protecting the run and doing a good
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: job with their guys up front. You couldn't bust that
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: inside zone in there. Some of the creativeness and the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: play calling that allowed Hawkins on the edge with options.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: He could have taken off. You want to come up
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and guard him? All right, fine. Then the safety's staying back.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: You're going to close off his scramble. Guess who's open?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Epps underneath. Ward underneath. And West Virginia just took what
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: was available to it. It said, all right, is that right?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Here's what we're going to do. figured it out in
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: the first half, saw what they were doing. Cincinnati didn't
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: adjust its defense, and I wouldn't have either. It was
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: working in the first half. And the play calling and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the decisions made. And then you have to execute. Hawkins
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: had to execute and make some pinpoint passes underneath. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: he was dang near flawless underneath. Guys caught the ball
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: for the most part. But I just thought overall scheme
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and the chess match between what Cincinnati was doing defensively.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: And I know the numbers look like Cincinnati had a
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: horrible day defensively. But what they were doing scheme-wise was effective.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And West Virginia was just better at countering that on
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the philosophy and then the execution of it. I thought
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it was an A-plus effort on the play-calling side. Full
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: staff effort. Rich and Travis obviously driving that. They were tremendous,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I thought.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a two-fold benefit to that. Firstly,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: it gives confidence to Rich and his staff and his
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: players that they can do that.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: One.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Two, it sends a warning shot to the remaining opponents that,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you might walk on over, you're going to
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: limp back. I mean, right? You want to play that?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: You want to load the box up? Here's, we're going
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to do this. Now, I think the old, you know, again,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: we'll see, but I think defensive coordinators now, specifically TCU
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: this week, are looking at that tape going, oh, crap.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You can't throw it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: And can't throw it underneath. I mean, that had been
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the one thing where Where Hawk had struggled with that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: was the underneath passes. He had been great as a
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: home run hitter downfield, one of the best in the country.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I'll get into his deep passing ability in a minute.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: He ran it at an extremely high rate, the best
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: running quarterback in the country. The one little area, if
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you want to nitpick, was completion percentage underneath, and he
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: absolutely torched the Bearcats in that area. Won you the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: game by the ability to complete passes underneath and then
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: receivers making the play.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Receivers making the play. How about on the third and
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: nine when you're on your own two and the long
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: pass and it's short? And Strawn stops, comes back, and catches.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: That was just a great play.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: They don't teach him to throw it short, but they
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: do tell him to throw a catchable ball. In other words,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you can do a 50-50 ball because he's 6'5. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: it did have to, I mean, maybe could have been
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit farther, so it was literally a 50-50.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I give Prince Strawn massive, massive credit. for not only
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that one to come back and get it, because he
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: was probably being interfered with.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Not probably. They weren't going to call. Should have been
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: a flag.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And then on the next one, the next one that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: he caught, I mean, he was the wildebeest in the Serengeti,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: because he had all those, you know, his D-back. They
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: were trying to jump on his back. They were trying
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to jump on his back, and he just bulldogged his
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: way down there. So him. Another one, and Brad, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: certainly don't want to get into your numbers. But the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: guy that's not getting any love that needs love is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Ryan Ward, the Mountaineer tight end. I mean, you kind
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of forget that he had himself a big boy play.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He caught that thing and went 36 yards.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Wow, correct.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Set the table.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Ran about a 3-4-40 there down the sideline. He didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: think tight end Ryan Ward did it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Took off. And you know what? He seemed to enjoy himself.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Like when he knew the contact was coming, which I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: like in a tight end. Oh, is that right? Here
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we go. And so I like that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Well, because he got himself to full speed. Tight ends
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: usually can't get themselves ramped up to full.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Speed before they deliver up low. Took a minute to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: get up to full speed, but that was a great play.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: There were just a ton of great offensive plays in
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: that game in the second half.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: And then, of course, Jack Hasty winning it, which is
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: not a gimme. That's not a gimme feel. That wasn't
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: a chip shot there. And he had missed one earlier,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and he came back, and he striped the thing. Fun
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: to get out of there with a win. Even with
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: all the defensive struggles, again, you walk out with a win,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: and it just lifts your spirits there. Oh, my gosh.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It helps everything.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It certainly does.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. Go ahead.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Helps the host who has to do Rich Rodriguez's talk
• 28:56
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• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Good for the fans. It was a beautiful day, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the fans turned out. Good for them.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: The old grads meeting with the young lads.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Three guys brought to us by.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Better than the Washington and Jefferson game of 1926. That's correct,
• 29:14
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• 29:19
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• 29:23
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• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Check your numbers. We'll just go right to the numbers.
• 30:28
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• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Go back and look at what we said Thursday, see
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: what came to fruition, what did not. We started with
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: you've got a slow Cincinnati's rushing attack Came in averaging
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: almost six yards per carry against a West Virginia defense
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: that had struggled. West Virginia was giving up seven yards
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: per play overall, 135th out of 138 nationally coming in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Hoppy had to try and slow them down.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yes. You did not.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Gave up six yards per carry on the ground, 233
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: rushing yards. Gave up nine yards per play for the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: game to Cincinnati. So, needed to slow them. You did not.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Number two, we said West Virginia's got to keep running
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and thought there would be some success running the football
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: game against a Cincinnati defense that had struggled in containing
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: large explosive plays. In fact, the Bearcats defense was 64th
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: out of 68 in the Power Four Conference teams coming
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: in when allowing explosive runs. West Virginia only had five
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: big rushing plays, which would constitute 10 yards or more,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: just five of those. So that did not happen. Cincinnati's defense,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: as I just mentioned, actually contained that. We also pointed
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: out Cincinnati's run defense hop had been very boom or busts.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: They'd given up those big explosive plays, but they also
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: had a 20% stuff rate. One in five plays were
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: stopped for zero or no yards. They had a 24%
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: stuff rate against West Virginia, so they handled West Virginia's
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: attack up between the tackles, that inside zone, but they
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: forgot about their pass defense. That was surprised. The third
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: point we said, West Virginia has to keep hitting explosive
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: pass plays.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Did they, Hop? They did. They did. West Virginia came
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: into that game fourth nationally among all teams in explosive
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: pass rate and ninth nationally among power four teams in
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: yards per attempt. The Bearcats had struggled in that area.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And what a performance it was with Hawkins. I mentioned
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: 464 yards passing and is the fifth most in West
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Virginia history. 14 pass plays of 15 yards or more.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Those 14 plays alone went for 402 of his passing yards.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: My goodness.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: He averaged 24 yards per completion and, oh, by the way,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: completed 76% of his passes.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: After a slow first half.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Nearly 80% completion percentage on 454. Hello. For, again, what
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: is the nation's leading rusher as a quarterback, put on
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: an unbelievable aerial display. Talk about a dude that is
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: having a season here, It's what Michael Hawkins is doing
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: in 2026. Unreal performance. Unreal performance by him.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: He's in the perfect offense right now.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: There's no question. Scored on the team's final four drives
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: of the game, three touchdowns, the game-winning field goal. You
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: scored on seven of your final eight possessions. So to
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: your point of the back and forth, like, okay, we
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: didn't get stopped. Give me the ball. That was one
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: of those. We had a bunch of them this year.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: That was a great game of give me the ball.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Was that right? Just give me the ball. Got it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: We'll go.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: We also said you have to protect the football. Cincinnati
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: came in top 20 nationally in turnover margin. Hoppy, how
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: many turnovers do you have?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: None. Zero.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Did you win the game?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that helps. We talked about the good on good
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: that was coming. Cincinnati came into the game as one
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: of the very best tackle teams in the country. In fact,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: they were fifth among power four teams in missed tackle rate.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: They were getting two of the best in the country
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: in Cam Cook and Michael Hawkins at avoiding tackles. Hawkins
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: still forced five missed tackles. That's his third most in
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: a game this season. Cook only had two forced missed tackles.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: So that was a pretty even Cincinnati. Might have got
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the better of that because, again, that's why there weren't
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the big explosive run plays. Cook sits number three nationally.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Hawkins number six nationally. They have combined those two for
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: 85 missed tackles forced in seven games. But that was
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: an interesting, we thought, good-on-good matchup, and it turned out
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: to be such. A couple other numbers. West Virginia's expected
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: points added... per its drop back. So how many points
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: are you expected to gain following each pass play along
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the game? Their performance was in the 98th percentile.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Again, one of the best rushing offenses in the country.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Absolutely torched the Bearcats in the air. We mentioned earlier
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the historic kind of struggle you're in for these four games.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: West Virginia and its opponents have combined for 1,000 yards
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: plus in four consecutive games. That's breathtaking.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: That's never happened.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Jeez. No.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: This was fun. I like to sometimes, and especially in
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: these back-and-forth games, go to what you can classify as
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the most important plays statistically. What added the most win
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: probability to your score? Sometimes these match what you saw.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they're a little bit off. You'll find these interesting,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I think. Cook's 40-yard touchdown reception that you mentioned, that
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: was the most important play of the game according to
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the numbers. Tied the game at 42 and added 29%
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to West Virginia's win probability. Only slightly below that. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I think this would be the one most of us,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: and I think even I wouldn't say, was the most
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: important play of the game was the one we just
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: talked about. The pass to Strawn down the sideline. That
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: added 26% to your win probability. But talk about the
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: swing that was going on right there is that if
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: they make that punt or that fake punt, then you're thinking,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: how are you going to get a stop here? They're
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: going to score, right? Then he unloads that punt and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: gets an unbelievably favorable bounce, backs you up inside your one.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Now you just went from, okay, you got to stop.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: You're getting the ball back. You've got a chance to
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: win it to, oh God, you got to get out
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: of the end zone here and don't have to punt it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Because if you give it back to them, even if
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: you got it to their 40, you're like, well, you're
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: not going to stop them. They're going to get 35
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: yards and they're going to kick a game winning field goal.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Then they stop you on the first couple of plays.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, the swings between what's about to happen Then
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it became, just get to overtime. Just get out of
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: your end zone, get the ball out of here, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: let's go play in overtime. And then there comes the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: pass to Prince Strawn, and suddenly that changed the whole tenor,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: and now you're back into, okay, go win the game now.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: An incredible just two minutes of real-time switch in your
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: philosophy right there. Hawkins. Let's spend a few minutes here
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: and dive into some Hawkins numbers. Are you ready? Hop,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you ready?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: He was fantastic.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So we mentioned the fifth best passing performance. We mentioned
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: the 76% completion rate. He was 7 of 9 on
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: passes 10 yards or more. 3 for 4 on deep
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: passes of 20 yards or more. 20-yard passes are almost
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: like three-point shots. If you're in the 40% completion range,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: you're doing unbelievably well. He was 75% on deep passes.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: That's remarkable. That's a remarkable passing performance. And he's been
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: throwing that ball great all year. Receivers have been making plays.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Absolutely towards Cincinnati in the middle of the field, 17
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: of 19, right down the middle. When he was kept clean,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: he was 24 of 29, 83% in three touchdowns. So
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: we've talked about this offensive line has allowed a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: of pressures this year. It's part of why his scrambling
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: yards are so high up. But he got some good blocking.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of pass attempts when you were kept clean.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: So good job, offensive line. And Hawkins and the receivers
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: made him pay after the line kept.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Him out of there.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Per what WVU sports information, became the only quarterback in
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: West Virginia history. Let me stop. There's been a lot
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: of great quarterbacks at this school. When you lead with,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: became the only quarterback in West Virginia, not even Rat Rogers,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: who was kind of a quarterback running back, single lane,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: what was it? Only quarterback in West Virginia history to
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: throw for at least 450 and run for 75 in
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a game.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Only one ever. So when you say historic performance, he
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: had a historic performance.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Incredible.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Mike Hawkins Jr., also the first player in program history
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to record at least two passing touchdowns and two rushing
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: touchdowns four times in a season. Four times in a season.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: First time ever.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: The only one to ever do that. Think of the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: great quarterbacks in this program, and he just in two
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: different categories became the first. to ever do something. Michael
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Hawkins leads the nation in rushing touchdowns 14. He is already,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: through seven games, ninth in program history for rushing touchdowns
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: in a single season.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: That's not by a quarterback. He's leading the nation in
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: total rushing touchdowns.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: That would be correct.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: The running backs get to go score, too.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: They also are allowed to score and count in this,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: but they have not gained as many as Michael.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And he's got 14 of them.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And he has got 14.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Which is the number one in the country.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: He's tied with Pat White, single-season rushing touchdowns in a season.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: There's still five games left, Hoppy, last I checked. He
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: is about to pass the aforementioned Rat Rogers in that category,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns in a single season.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: How many did Rat have? I never really dug into
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Rat's numbers.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Fifteen.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: That's next on the list. Eighth all-time in a single season.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That's when they play like eight games a year.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: That's probably true.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: If they needed to.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably true, too. The record, because now you're
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: looking at this, Amos had 18 in 97. That is absolute.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: He might get that next week. TCU's not careful. He
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: might get that, play that on you next week.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: With all due respect.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Of course, to the Horned Frogs. Seventh nationally in rushing yards,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: first among quarterbacks. Number two nationally in total yards on
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: the season. The quarter, but the number one, so he's
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: number two in total yards. All players are included in
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: that stat, all players. The number one guy in total
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: yards has one rushing yard. He's done it all through
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the year. Hawkins is giving you both. Truly the best
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback in the country right now, and that's
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: not hyperbole. Eighth nationally in big time throws for a
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: guy that when he came in, a lot of people said,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: what can he throw? Through the first couple games, what
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: can he throw? Dude can throw. I think we've answered that.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: So eight big-time throws, only one interception. Among quarterbacks with
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: at least 100 passing attempts, boys, he leads the nation
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: in average depth of target. So this is also not
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: a guy when he passes it that is throwing the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: ball three, four, five.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And padding numbers.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: This is a dude pushing the ball down the field.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Leads the nation in average depth of target for quarterbacks
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: that have thrown 100 attempts this season. remarkable given what
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: he's doing on the ground. Among quarterbacks with at least
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: 35 pass attempts on passes of 20 yards or more,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: and I think this is an important one. I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of people misconstrue this stat. I just told
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: you what the completion is. It's more like a three-point
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: shot than anything. So among quarterbacks with at least 35
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: attempts on passes downfield 20 yards or more, he's number
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: three nationally in completion percentage on those. Dude's having a year.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Throwing it, running it, All of it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: On a run-first team.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: On a heavy run-first team. I'll leave it. The rest
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: of my case with Michael Hawkins and those numbers. They
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: are silly, stupid numbers through seven games.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And look, you're judged by wins, but he himself is
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: worth the price of admission.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: It gives you pause also to just look at Rich.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and his career that today he is known as just
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a guy that runs the football. But he was the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: exact opposite when he was first starting, and all he
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: did was throw it at a level that got him
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to a national championship game and had the all-time leading
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: receiver in college football history in Chris George. So to me,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: if you can do the diversity of what he's been
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: able to evolve through, there's great depth. And there's great
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: depth in that. And there's a story there of him
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: being able to do that in his career.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: And then to micro that macro story down into this
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: game and doing it within this game.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did it within a game.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: You tried to do what you do through the first half,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: and they wouldn't crack. And instead of just keeping to
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: do it, you just said, all right, well, what's the answer?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: They're telling it. They're giving us the answer. Now can
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: we go execute against it?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: And you did.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And you saw it, and you recognized it, and you
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: called it that way. And then the guys went out
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: and had to execute it because that's the second part
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: of it, to do that. So that was an exciting
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: football game. You're thrilled to get the win. Yes, you
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: have a monster load of defensive issues still. None of
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: those got resolved. In fact, you're more worried because I
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: don't even know if you saw any improvement there. But offensively,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: that was a master class in how to do it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And again, let's just enjoy what's been one of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: great college football seasons by an individual performer in Michael
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Hawkins through seven games, just simply breathtaking what he's done.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Well done. Basketball now. West Virginia and the Maryland's put
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: 171 on the board, 90 to 81 with an overtime
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: session thrown in there. And obviously you always want to win.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You always want to win. I'll take the L here. Reason?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take the L because an L will
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: heighten the awareness for this team as to, and Ross
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: said it, really well, it'll heighten the awareness of this
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: team and what it takes to win and what happens
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: when you don't do those things, which results in a loss.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And had you hit a bucket there late or Brennan
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Lorien scored on that baseball pass down there and you
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: win the thing by two points and you run off
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the floor, that gets masked a little bit of how
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you got lackadaisical in possessing the ball in the second half,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: nonchalant turnovers. ill-advised three-point shots when you had a big
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: lead at the end of the first half. And so
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: all of those things, very correctable. And so I'm kind
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: of like, okay with it, okay with it. And extremely
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: encouraged by what I saw. And you're going to need
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to be really, really good because of the schedule that's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: coming up here. And that was invaluable for this team.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: What happened in that game yesterday very well could help
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you beat Auburn when you go to Las Vegas because
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you've been in that situation now and you will learn.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: So I'll take an L on a Sunday in an
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: exhibition to go get me a W against Auburn when
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you start playing in the players' era. So I'm totally
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: good with it. This is a really deep team. Still
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: at this same moment, it's a very young team. Amadou
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Saini really is going to be fun to watch develop.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Mo Silla is still a baby. He's young. Joseph Sanon
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: didn't even play because he took a shot in his leg,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and he's got like a Charlie Horse type thing. I mean,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: he very well could be going forward this season, like
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: right up there among your leading scorers. And he didn't
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: even get involved.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: What was your take on the first public display of Sadler?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Kind of exactly what I thought. Like an upside that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: is just going to be fun to watch. He got it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I knew he's going to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: have to learn, you know, and he will because he
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: wants to be really good. And it's not about him.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: He just he needed that experience. He needed that experience. But, heck,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: first time out, didn't shoot it as well as he's
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: going to. He went four for 13, but he gets
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: 16 points. He gets four assists, four turnovers, fouled out
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: on a bad reach around. So, yeah, all super great
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: things that they can put on tape and go like, okay,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: see that, see that, and these guys will learn.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: All right, a bunch of things. You could see the
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: ceiling from where you were in the first half. One turnover.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That thing was humming. Tons of open shots. Multiple guys
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: doing things. Showed the depth of what exists offensively, specifically.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: And then the second half, when it gets tight and
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the inexperience that comes through right there, you did have
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: too many turnovers. A couple possessions where you rushed and
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: took the first open shot when you didn't need to.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: That's all learning experience. This is the first time these
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: guys have played together. And I'll go further, Hop. This
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: is the... The first time in live action that any
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: of these guys played together. But it's also one of
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: the few times you had these lineup configurations out there.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: You haven't gone one versus twos all summer because there
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: hasn't been a defined one versus twos. You've had so
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: much depth. You've mixed the lineups up. So there's a
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: lot of learning to play together. Brett and Lori are
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out, where do I fit in this
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: particular lineup? What do we do when Miles isn't running
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: the point and Martin Somerville's in? How does that look?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Played Javen and Bilo together last night. I don't know
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: that I've seen that twice in scrimmages all summer, and
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I've been to almost every single practice. Played Mo Silla
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: and Sini together at time. You haven't seen that a lot.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: So there was a lot of learning going on. You
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: didn't unveil Sini. Yeah, got a name change there after
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: four months. You didn't do all the things defensively you're
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: going to do. You just didn't show everything. You didn't
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: show everything offensively. Couple points on Miles Sadler. As I've
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: been telling you all summer, the guy is the real deal.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: And there's going to be some little ups and downs
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: as he navigates his way at this level. But guys,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I said this on air, Hoppy, the end of the
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: regulation session, under two minutes to go, you're down five.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: That's normally a situation where you're in some deep trouble here.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: West Virginia comes up with the ball. Miles has the ball.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: And there's really only one defender in front of him.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I'll take that bet all day long that Miles beats
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: you down the court and takes the one defender to
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: the basket for a layup. And would have been totally
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: thrilled with that as an option. He takes off and
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: notices Finley going down the side with him. And he
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: slows just a step, then kicks it in as he
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: waits for Finley to get to the three-point line. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: instead of Miles taking it to the basket, whips a
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: left-handed pass across the floor to a waiting Finley right
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: in the shooter's pocket. Finley knocks down a three. Now
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: you got life. Now the thing's down to a two-point
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: game and still plenty of time. West Virginia gets a stop,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: comes back the other way. West Virginia goes into a
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: two-man game, clears the right side of the floor, and
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: they go miles and below. And they put the defenders
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: in an absolute blender. They kept screening and rescreening, screening
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and rescreening. Where's the advantage going to come? Finally, the
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: defense cracks. They both come out on Sadler. He looks away.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: A quick pass to Bielow, who finishes. We got a
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: tie game. You just erased a five-point lead in about
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: 35 seconds in that. That, to me, right there, that
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: little clip, that's what Miles Sadler gives you. And by
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the way, if you didn't know that, that was in
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: his first college appearance. He did that and controlled the
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: end of the game late in regulation. I was blown
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: away with that part of it. He's going to be
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: really good. That's just an obvious observation. This is a
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: little bit, Tony, apples and oranges because that was an
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: exhibition game, but it was against what I think will
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: be a very good Maryland team. Buzz Williams in year
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: two generally gets his stuff figured out, and he did.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: That was a big physical good team. But if you
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: do a little comparison, Tony, you have often been fond
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: of the stat that if you produce and score as
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: a baby– especially in basketball, and I think your number
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: was three or four points per game, believe it or not.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Three or four points per game, if you average that,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: you're going to end up being a really good college player.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Javon Carter, in his first college game, wearing the gold
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: and blue, again, wasn't an exhibition, first regular season, but
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: stay with me as I try and make a larger
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: point here. Javon had zero points against Monmouth in his debut.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: His first double-figure game came in his fourth game against
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Boston College, where he had 15. Deuce McBride came out
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: of the gate against Akron in his first game. 11 points,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: four assists. Did have three turnovers. But Deuce turned out OK? Yeah,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: pretty good. I think he's doing well. Javon had zero.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Did he turn out OK?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Pretty good.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, turned out to be a pretty good player. In
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Deuce's second game, when he stepped up and played some
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: power four competition against Pitt, he didn't take a shot.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: And he had zero points. So this was a dude
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: in Sadler that in his first college experience was a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: very good power four team against Maryland. He had 16-4,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: had the ball in his hand most of the game,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: controlled it at the end of regulation. I think Miles
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Sadler will be just fine, boys, will be just fine.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: One shout-out to Seydou Traore, who we've talked about a bunch.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: We saw him last year. I've said many times he
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: did as good a job on Honor Huff last year
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: as anybody in this league and dropped 17 on West
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Virginia in the Coliseum. He was elite. He was a
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: man last night, and I think you're really going to
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: like him. Look at this stat line, Hoppy. 13 points,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: six rebounds, three blocks, and two steals.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take that all day.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Had a fourth block that was negated by a reach-in foul.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Would have had four blocks out of one of your
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: wing defenders. And sorry, real quick. Some differences that you saw.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: The speed in which West Virginia is going to go
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: up and down the floor is different and fun to watch.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: You saw West Virginia unveil a press for the first time.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And you didn't even see everything that's available in the
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: playbook there. But you saw a couple things that looked
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: a little different than they have.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: You saw evidence, too. Tony, of West Virginia's depth, which
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: they did not have last year.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Huge.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, take a look at the... I mean, when
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you had.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Nine solid, and that's the real rotation. Nine solid, and
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: there's other guys that didn't get in that are going
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: to help you at different points throughout the year.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: West Virginia had 32 bench points to Maryland's 15.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Led you two starters out for most of the first
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: half and still went into halftime with a 16-point lead.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That wasn't... That wasn't played like an exhibition, guys.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, how many minutes did Payne play in that game?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Payne played 37 minutes.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: 37 minutes for the preseason first-team All-Big Ten player. Normal
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: exhibition game, you're not doing that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Friend of the program, Finley Bizjack was nice.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Very good. All the performances, didn't even mention Finley. Can
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: he shoot? Yeah, he can shoot. And he's, as we've
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: been talking about him, he's not just a shooter. He
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: can score. He's a playmaker. He's very good. I think
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: I'll continue to say what I've said since June. You're
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: going to really like this team. There's a lot of
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: upside here. And yes, you got a lot out of this.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: And now when you're Ross and you go back in
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: today in film session, you say what he has said
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: all summer. He believes the game begins when the shot
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: goes up. And this was a great opponent because you
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: knew you were going to get an elite offensive rebounding team.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: So Buzz Williams teams do. Payne is one of the
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: best in the country at offensive rebounding. Bullion that came
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: in from New Mexico, fifth overall out of 2,300 players
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: last year in offensive rebounding percentage. They get after the glass.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: They did. You're going to have some film to say, guys,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: it can't be a pretty good game. It can't be
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: a half a rebounding. It's got to be all day,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: every day, every possession.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: That'll come.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: That'll come.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: An invaluable learning experience. Three guys, textual healing coming up.
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  Speaker 1: talked with an official from Tudor's at the food court
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on Friday night. He was there, conversated with him, and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he said, Ben Cutter can't eat five.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Came right on set.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's on.
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• 55:30
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• 55:33
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• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Ben cutter could eat five. Ben might want to challenge that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, in the off season, I don't want to
• 55:41
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• 55:43
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do biscuit, but five would be a challenge.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. You know, as much as
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: we've seen Jen, his mom, at the food court, we
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: should have asked her.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: She's the best.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: She's the best.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, she thought he could probably eat five.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, did she say that?
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: She said, you guys have no idea how much the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: kid can eat. Oh, really?
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: We did ask her.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a full conversation about it.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: A week ago, Jen, those unbelievable cookies, they're a story
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: in themselves, but she brought a friend.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And her friend and.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Her friend has a son who's Ben's age, and they're boys.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: So they literally grew up together. They'd be at each
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: other's houses. And she said, I'm his godmother, but Ben
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: calls me his oddmother because they're kind of a funny
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: relationship going there. They joke with each other. So we'll
• 56:37
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• 56:54
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  Speaker 1: We would like to send a sincere thank you for
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  Speaker 1: everyone out there um that came out to the food
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  Speaker 1: court this season we had our final one this weekend
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and it was about as good as you could uh
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: have imagined we had a lot of fun friday and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: saturday and it was really good good to meet keg
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: the musical performer yes keg mclean uh-huh good guy great
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  Speaker 1: guy enjoyed him got a new album coming out he
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  Speaker 1: was really really good and uh we will have a
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  Speaker 1: the months go on, we'll let you know where they are.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: We'll go indoors, and we still have a couple of
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: those going on. Made some headway in the item I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: discussed last week about marrying Mountaineer Roasting Coffee and Cutter's
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Cookies for a Christmas package. Might have a marriage developing
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the coffee and tin of Ben Cutter's mom's cookies, put
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: them together for a Christmas gift.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: It'd be a great gift. Let's just get further down
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the road before we announce it. It's like the third announcement,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: and there's no details on it. Just hang tight.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: We'll get there. Are you working on it, or you
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: just said it to Homeless Dave, and Homeless Dave's trying.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: To pick up the pieces? You already know the answer
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: You don't need to ask that question.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Homeless is efforting. Here we go. Here we go. Because
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you've got nothing else to do. Hey, fellas, ready to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: cheer on the Mountaineers the Go-Mart way. I got this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: when I stopped in for a Fly Rod Slim Chim,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm supporting Big Candy. How about that lid? Do
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: you have one of those, Brad?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: I do have one of those. It's nice.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Nice lid.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Also, if you were at the game Saturday, they had
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the Go-Mart towels.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There you go.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: That is a bath towel.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Right there. Bath towel.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Go-Mart had them in the gold, had them in the blue.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: By the way.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: It's a hand towel. Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I guess a bath. I think, um, thanks to the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: folks at GoMart, they are providing 17,000 children's books to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: first graders in West Virginia. Absolutely free.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Now, what book would that be?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: It's my book. And, uh, it's my book.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: This is a new publication.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: New one called, uh, watch where you put your feet down.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Watch where you put your, put your feet down.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going on my book tour next week during the off,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: during the off week. Um, Next Monday, I'll be at
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Sutton Elementary in Sutton. Then I'm going to Beckley, Staniford Elementary.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Then the next day, I'm going to Bell Elementary in Bell,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Kanawha County. Then I'm going into Cabell County, Milton Elementary.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: The next day, it's Tuesday.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Good to see them.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Then I'm skipping Wednesday because we've got a basketball game.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Then Thursday, I'm going to Wood County, Blenner-Hassett Elementary, Parkersburg.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: then closing it with a home date at Brookhaven here.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: In Montague County.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you find time to– good for you, Tony,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: but your first book was a big hit, Where in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: the World Are We or something. But how do you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: find time– That was passive aggressive. How do you find
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: time to write the book and then– I mean, this
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: is a busy time for you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: You've got football, you've got basketball. I do it as
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: soon as basketball season's over.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So it's– okay.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do it right then.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Could be on the New York Times bestseller list.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Probably won't. It probably won't be, but it's first. So
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: shout out to GoMart. They bought 17,000 of these.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: It was their idea. Like, hey, would you do another book?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Because we want to donate these books to kids. And
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I think there's a coupon in there for little kids
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to get a little something at the GoMart.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: What's the name of it again?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Watch Where You Put Your Feet Down.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Is it like West Virginia oriented?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Good for you. Good for you.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Involves a young boy named Luca. And my former dog, Charles.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Charles Barkley.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: The late Charles Barkley.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: The late Charles Barkley. This is my ode to Charles.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Can I get a signed copy? No.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Go to first grade. Go over to Brookhaven. Again?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Go over to Brookhaven. He'll be there the end.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Of next week. Text her right now. James Jones and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: my wife Brittany and my daughter. This was Sophia's first game.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: We got to meet Hoppy. Two.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, we have a picture. No, no, no, no.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: That's Brad and... Yeah, that's not... Sophia was a trooper.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Do we have a picture of Sophia?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I got.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Just me and James.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: No, I gave it. No, we have it. There we are.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: There's Sophia being held.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Sophia with James and Brittany.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's just a little one.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Four years old.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: I went up to her and I said, are you six?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: And she said, four.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Nice folks. Yeah, we had a great visit.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Texter says, I had more of this hat in the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: past three games. We started out rough. And now we
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: are tied with two minutes left in the half after
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I put the hat on. It's the hat. It has
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: been proven scientifically.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Agree, Brian.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: There he is, Brian in Martinsburg. Agree. Causation correlation.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: That is a hat right there. He got the eyes.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: He got the whole thing going strong.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Might still be alive. Alive.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Texter says, you get me the game day grind and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: gen cutters cookies in a tin for sale and sign
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: me up for three of them.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Now we're taking orders.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Now that thing's catching fire.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Put it together.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Uh, the alumni group, the low country, uh, folks down
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: there in South Carolina had a watch party and, um,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: there they are. They were giving away gear, all kinds
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So they were watching the ball contest.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Great alumni group down there. Yeah.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Is that where we were?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were down there.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: That was fun. That was, we did that for them.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was, oh, that was fun.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: That's where you got us sick for the next two months.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: You came back with it. Ebola or what the hell
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: did you have?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You put a stupid monkey on your head. Came back
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: from riding in a car together, hacking, breathing all over us.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Damn near killed Ren Baker.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh about that. Hey, you know, he survived
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: a lot. If you can survive a deadly disease, deadly
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: international infection.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Ren got that monkey virus from Hoppy. Well, I wasn't
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: the only one.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I don't get sick ever. I've walked sick out of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: there coming out of Charleston.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Patient zero. Okay.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Whatever you do, don't get the virus shot.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Don't get the shot. Well, whatever you do, don't put
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: a monkey on your head. How about that in a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: foreign country? Let's start there.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Hoppy, you're being called to task on this next text.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: In our last episode at the 11 minute, 18 second mark,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: winning versus losing is an obvious observation. Hoppy said, we
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: are wired to win and it goes back to the caveman.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: He said, humans are risk adverse, loss adverse. They treat
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: threats more urgently than than opportunities. Humans psychologically value not
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: losing something more than gaining something. It goes back to evolution,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: or Hoppe's caveman reference, as treating threats more urgently than
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: opportunities created a better chance to survive and reproduce. And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: he takes that from a well-known book, Hoppe.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I am not a trained psychologist, so I'll defer
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Bobby from Myrtle Beach, how do you spell relief? A
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: win on homecoming. Texter, Hawkins is doing stuff only the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: most elite rushing quarterbacks do and now the most elite
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: passing quarterbacks have ever done, and he's still incredibly raw.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine what he could do next year with
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: another year to develop with Rich. Let's just go ahead
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: and pay him.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Is he on a two-year deal?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Hoppy, those things aren't made public. All right. Texter.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: If you're not, work on that.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: That can probably be classified under your obvious observations. I'll
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: probably respect the comment. I think they might be aware
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: that it would be nice to keep him. You think
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: they know? I think they know it would be nice
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: to keep him.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Should we mention that to the football coach?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe send that clip over to them because then they
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: might think, you know what, that's a great– he had
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: a great point on three guys. He said we should try.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And keep Hawkins.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Hey, Chuck.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Hey, Chuck Lilly, general manager. Have you guys thought about
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: keeping Michael Hawkins next year?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Have you talked about that at all yet? Totally agree
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I bet you Chuck would go, oh, that is
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: a good one. Now we kick it in. Let's go
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: find him. Three guys.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: My bag. They know.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: They know. Well, this next one is really. By the way,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: so does everybody else in the country.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: That is right.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: This next one is super neat. Three guys, a couple
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago when we landed in Monterey, I sent
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: you a text regarding the John Denver Memorial. Remember those
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: guys were standing there?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: The following day, we played the Tiger Woods Design Par
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: 3 at Pebble Beach called The Hay. Second hole, there's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: a guy standing there waiting to play, and we asked
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: if he wanted to join us. We introduced ourselves. He
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: said his name was Gerard. We played a couple of holes,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: and he mentioned he played football up in the northeast.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I immediately asked, what's your last name? He said.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Like Gerard Phelan. Oh, geez. At that point, bells, whistles
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: went off in our heads realizing who he was. We
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed our day with him, especially after he shared
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: a great story about he and Daryl Talley. Here are
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the pictures. Here's these four guys that are just wandering around.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: They started like the island of Crete on that worldwide
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: cruise or something, I think. Now they're on golfing. So
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: that's them. They got dudes there. originally from Princeton and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Shady Spring, two from the class of 73 at Princeton.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: And then the next picture, that's Gerard Phelan in the middle.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, my golly.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks. Played with Flutie.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Boston College, of course.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: They got Flutie.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: They got him. I kind of pulled it back. So
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: for those that are a little bit younger, Gerard Phelan
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: caught one of the greatest passes in the history of
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: college football. Doug Flutie threw, excuse me, a Hail Mary.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Against Miami. And Gerard Phelan went up and caught it. Musburger,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Brent Musburger, the announcer, had the game. And it's one
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: of the greatest plays in the history of college football.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Look it up on the YouTubes. He said, P.S. At
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: no point did we mention to Gerard that we knew B.C.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: lost to the Mountaineers with Flutie all four times. which
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: is a bit of an urban legend. Actually, it was three.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Flutie didn't start when he was a freshman, may have
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: gotten in the game. But anyway, go with it. Texter,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: this is kind of interesting. Texter, all this text said was, sorry, Bearcats.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: And there is the Bearcat mascot and the young lady
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: with a Mountaineer hat on top Of the Bearcat. So
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: he had to be a nice mascot to have her
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: jump on top.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Of his head. Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: He's right on top of his head, Brad.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: I see that.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Listening to the Homecoming show after the game, Hoppy, you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned Mike Ditka playing football for Pitt versus WV. A
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: friend told me a story about Ditka's also played basketball
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: at West Virginia. Look it up. Interesting. Fred Schaus, pretty
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: big guy, I understand. Thanks, Tim, from St.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Albans.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Dickey did play football.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Basketball.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Basketball, I'm sorry. Imagine Mike Dickey under the basket going
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: for rebounds. Hoppy, back in that day, things were physical,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: really physical between West Virginia and Pitt. May have been
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: a fist fight or two during the days. One may
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: have involved former Mountaineer basketball coach Gale Catlett when he
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: was a player, lined up. I mean, self-defense, right?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Protecting. Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: May have punched a guy straight in the face.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Was told a story also about our buddy, Mountaineer legend
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Willie Akers, and Mike Ditka may have had a disagreement
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: or two on the court. A little physical.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Willie Aker's pretty tough standing up there. Mike, come on in.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Willie was from Wyoming County. Mullins people don't walk.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Come on with it. You can't walk over.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Come on back, Mike. Mullins, no, we're not walking away.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Willie wouldn't take no for an answer.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: No, he did not from what I was told.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Three guys, while not an all-time victory or one for
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: the ages, the game will hopefully ignite a spark. This
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: despite the continued defensive issues. By the way, I'm hoping
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: for a quick rate my tailgate plate. Chicken cutlets topped
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: with Oliverio sweet peppers and sauce. Scopes, Italian breadcrumbs or
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: panko crumbs. Searching for something a tad more crispy. Signed,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Glenn from Glenn Ferris. Number one, I should have changed
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: the orientation of the picture because I'm getting dizzy. But
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: what I would do there, two things to make those crispy.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Go with a 50-50 mixture of panko and Reggiano Parmesan cheese.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Dip them in flour. Then dip them in egg, and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: then put the breadcrumbs on, and really work to squeeze
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: them down on there on both sides. Then put them
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: on an elevated rack in your refrigerator for 30 minutes.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Some chemical things happen, the breading won't come off, and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: you'll get a perfectly crisp chicken cutlet.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: That's a good description on your part. Very specific.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Those look good. Yeah, they do. Those look good. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: might have thrown some hots on there and some Alfredo sauce.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Did you see Benson had a? Renfredo?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: He's not the only high-profile person that waded into the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: Renfredo territory.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I've been doing it for months.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: There's somebody else you may know that finally, after all, like,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: consternation and bashing and food shaming and all the histronics
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: that came with it, someone finally went in.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: I went over there Saturday after the game and had Renfredo.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: At Cafe Alvarez.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: What's your report?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: It's incredibly tasty.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: These ding-dongs didn't tell me not to eat the whole thing.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you always eat the whole thing.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, is that right? So you think if we would
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: have said, hey, by the way, we usually eat about
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: half of it, you think he would have said, oh, yeah,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do half of it or we're going
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: to eat the whole thing? So it's typical him. He
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: can't just say, the story should have ended with, you know, guys,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I went over and tried it. You were right. It
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: is incredibly tasty. And I apologize for trying to food
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: shame you for six months. That's what he should have said.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: But he has to try and spin it back on
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: someone else.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: He's going, didn't tell me you didn't eat the whole thing.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: So I ate the whole thing.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: I'm 83 years old. I can't decide whether I should
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: eat the whole thing or not.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: And I also had the angel hair crab balls, which
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: are absolutely undefeated.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Those are really good.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: May have had a few breadsticks, so I may have over-consumed.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: You always do.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: That's nothing new. Did it again last night.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Of course you did. You texted me, and I texted back,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: of course you over-ate.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Don't bury the lead. Renfredo, super tasty.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Very tasty. And the chicken, the Renfredo that they do
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: on the pizza... With the chicken and the alfredo on
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the pizza?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's good.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: That's really good.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Imagine that.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: But in the future, I'm going to go with the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: red sauce.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you tried it. That's fine. You tried it and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: it was tasty.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: That's my whole point. You don't just say no. Well,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: you've learned.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: You've come around. Because you started out shaming.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: You were saying this is a hobby. Thank you. Unacceptable.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: People can make their own food decisions.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: John from Alabama writes, three things I thought I'd never
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: see this Saturday. Number one, my Mountaineers and my wife's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers get kick walk-offs.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Number two, the defense gets a key stop late. And three,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: a Rich Rod team throws for 464. Wait, what? I
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: didn't know.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, go ahead. Never mind.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: It says, I have to say for a person who
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: has always been frustrated with Rich's stubbornness in games, I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: was impressed. The way he exploited the Cincinnati, and he
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: wrote it, Cincinnati defense. Hawkins is just a sick generational talent,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: but Rich won us that game with his offensive change
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and approach. If he continues this, it significantly raises our
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: potential to win. Muskets up.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Also, too, guys, while we're giving credit for around the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Hawkins situation, just overall, how about a great job of identifying?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: For a guy that hadn't yet done it and hadn't played,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: that staff over there said, you know what? That's our guy.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: If he enters the portal, that is our guy. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: that was a big-time hit. Great evaluation there.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Well, that was Zach Alley because Zach Alley had to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: go against him at Oklahoma.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma lost again. No.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: What did they do Saturday? They did get beat by
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: the Kentuckys.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: The Kentuckys beat them. How about Will Stein? He hot. Hey,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: three guys, Jake, Preston County, currently living just outside of Midland, Texas.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: After Michael Hawkins' performance Saturday, I wanted to put his
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: special season into context nationally, I decided to compare his
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: numbers with Jaden Daniels' Heisman numbers through seven games in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: 2023 when Daniels won it. If we were five and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: two instead of four and three, he'd be in the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Heisman conversation. Keep up the great work. Love the show.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: So I did. So basically, through seven games in 23,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels had been responsible for 26 touchdowns. Michael Hawkins
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: is responsible for 24. Total offense, Michael Hawkins has produced 2,200
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: to Daniels' 2,800. So in the neighborhood. Yeah, so that's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: a while. Rob writes, I finally got to stop at
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the tailgate at Daniels for a few minutes, and I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: got to meet Homeless Dave and the dean. Thanks for
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the hospitality, the brisket on a biscuit, and good conversation, Hoppy.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: That's the first time I've had the privilege of talking
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: to you, although I've heard you on the radio in
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: this podcast for pretty much my entire 41 years. It
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: was like talking to an old friend, aloof and distant,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: question mark, BS. When are you going to thank us?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: When are you going to thank Brad and I? We
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: took you out. Of that shell that you were living
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: in for your entire life. And because of this podcast,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: because of the live events of Three Guys, you have
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: blossomed into one of the most warm, considerate, jovial human beings.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Joyous.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: You discovered joy because of us.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you both. I thank you all. It has
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: been fun.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Gary from Hurricanes. His epiphany was at the College World
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Series when he said, I've discovered joy. That should be
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: a T-shirt. I discovered joy. Didn't know it existed. Gary
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: from Hurricane, I remember Coach Rodriguez's first time as our
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: coach playing Cincinnati. There was a field goal try that
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: hit a goal post. During a show after, you said,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: the grounds crew had straightened the goal post, and if
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: they hadn't, the field goal would have been good. I've
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: always wondered if that was true or you were just kidding. No,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: I think pregame that day, they literally were up there.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Straightening the crossbar. But I don't remember if it hit
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a post or I don't know if it hit the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: post or the crossbar. But yeah, I remember that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: It was a post, wasn't it?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Up right. Yeah, up right.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Mike from Salem. It's been a hot minute since I
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: wrote last. I only have one question for you guys.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: That is, if Hoppy hasn't asked it first, does this
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: mean That Texas is back.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: P.S.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Andy Kotelnicki.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Good job keeping the streak alive.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Mention Kotelnicki. Well done.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Bud in Lexington writes, Brad, please trim your beard.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Wow. I'm sorry, what? Harsh. That's on the text line?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: It says it right there. Brad, please trim your beard.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Can I address this to Bud? Thanks so much. Allow
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: me to do it. Bud, here's your problem. You went
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: 180 the wrong way in doing that. If you wanted
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: him to take his beard off, you should have written, Brad,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I think your beard is the greatest thing in the world. Never,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: ever take it off, and he'd be clean shaven next time.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: The fact that you just said your beard's getting too long,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: you'll see him as Rip Van Winkle.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Couple things, bud. Don't know who you are. Don't know
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: what you look like. Don't care at all what you
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: think of the beard. And also, I do trim it
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: every day. Thank you, bud. Appreciate you noticing. Keep watching.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Here's the other thing about Brad. Because I've known people
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: like Brad. You go at Brad, you expect you're going
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: to get punched back. It's going to go.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: It's going to go. He's rather incendiary. In-game basketball text.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for watching, bud.
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  Speaker 1: 39-23, and here is how you know this will be
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  Speaker 1: an exciting and different season from last year. Tony is
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: slightly out of breath with excitement calling the action. Brad
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: is getting and giving analysis on the combo of athleticism
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  Speaker 1: and pro-style strategy. Even listening to it is different. Love
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: the faster pace, match-up possibilities. Great job adjusting, fellas. It's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: going to be a special basketball season. Then he comes back.
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  Speaker 1: Second text. Six minutes now left. Disregard the basketball text.
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  Speaker 1: Might have been a jinx.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, there is a difference in pace of
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: play early on.
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  Speaker 3: And nearly 80 possessions in yesterday's game. I know you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: had overtime. But as we've been saying, you've got some
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: elite athletes, guys that can really run and are fast.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to push the pace more.
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  Speaker 1: Let me rant. Really super quick on the basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So, bad piece of officiating.
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  Speaker 2: Well, their first game exhibition for them, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fine. Bad piece of officiating. So, West Virginia gets
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  Speaker 1: a breakaway slam dunk coming down the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Steel pass ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Steel pass ahead. Going to go in and dunk it
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  Speaker 2: for two.
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  Speaker 3: D'Lo about to dunk it.
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  Speaker 1: And Buzz Williams sees that happening. Runs out onto the floor.
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  Speaker 1: The official... instead of waiting for the play and the
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  Speaker 1: dunk and the two points to be recorded, calls the
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  Speaker 1: technical foul. That's a two-point swing.
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  Speaker 3: Stopped the play. Called it before. As B-Lo's going in
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: with nobody in front of him for a dunk, turns
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  Speaker 3: and bangs Buzz with the technical, doesn't let the play finish,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: which B-Lo's a few dribbles from finishing that. Should have
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: been basket good, then a technical. Now we're going to
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  Speaker 3: the line to add on top of that.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. You may have expressed that displeasure during the broadcast. Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Official, you got used.
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  Speaker 1: You got used, plain and simple. I don't care what
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  Speaker 1: the rule book says. Let them dunk the ball, then
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  Speaker 1: call the technical. You cost West Virginia two points.
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  Speaker 2: Horse crap.
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  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Dave and Kaiser.
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  Speaker 3: In an exhibition. Interesting move. Hadn't seen that strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, technical and exhibition.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he should have got a technical. I'm saying I
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen a move pulled like that in an exhibition.
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  Speaker 3: Neither here nor there.
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  Speaker 1: Texter says, I was hoping to make... All the three
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: guys tailgates this year, but I had to miss one
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  Speaker 1: on the 9th of October for the last Cheat Lake
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: boat outing of the year. Here's a photo of such
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  Speaker 1: with maybe a Lewendl craft in view.
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  Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: That's pretty. I think all the boats on Cheat Lake,
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  Speaker 1: they did an independent study, and I think they're all
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  Speaker 1: from Lewendl.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Brad, you have to confirm that. Find that out or not.
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  Speaker 1: I believe they're all from Lewendl. Dave and Kaiser, is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: there a deep Cut stat anywhere that tracks prayer shots against.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Is there a stat anywhere that tracks prayer shots? Because
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like we would lead the country all time,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: especially from players who don't shoot the long ball. Also,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: was that a Big Ten officiating crew? I'm just curious.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: So what he was referring to is Maryland shot two,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: just absolute prayers. Caden House hit one as the shot
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: clock expired. And Farrell Payne, who didn't have a three.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Attempt last year?
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  Speaker 3: Tony had never made one in his college career.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Never made one.
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  Speaker 3: Had attempted one.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: He hit a three. So when those happen, you just
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: kind of like, you fold your papers up and you
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: go like, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Kate House wasn't even facing the basket.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: Knocked it in.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Texter says, nice branding. We need a name for these
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: GoMart rally towels displayed here by my sis, who's a professor,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: WVU Nursing. See that hopping in?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: Use of the game.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: There's the horrible hanky, the terrible towel. How about a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: diabolical dishrag from Fort Hill Phil? P.S., it's nice to
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: leave a game happy for a change. There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Hey, you guys made a good point among a lot
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: of good points in the broadcast, but another one is
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: we should play Maryland.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: That's good rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: In basketball.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, football, again, it's tough to find games.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: But basketball.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: It was wild. What did Brian Meshley, SID, tell us
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: since 92? The last time a regular season game against Maryland? Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Played them in the tournament a couple times, but 92.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a regular season game.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Close.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Hey, I got one other picture.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Do we have that?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: It was the first one you put up, Jake. This
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: is Alex and Kelly from Huntington. There they are, Alex
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: and Kelly.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kelly works for the Amazon. She has some
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: great stories.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: The people that sell books online? Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, they sell everything online.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: So she works out of Huntington Amazon?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Yes. She only tolerates us on the podcast.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Well, he's a diet.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: She was being polite. She tolerates us if you get
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: down in there. One quick shout-out for me. I told
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: the guys I would do it. Steve, Dwayne, my good
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: friend Tim Beavers, Dr. Beavers, had a great time with
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: them at the tailgate after the game as I was
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: walking out. So Steve and Dwayne, thank you, buddy. And Tim,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: always great to see you.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Three guys before the game returns on Thursday. We will
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: preview West Virginia. And the Horned Frogs of TCU, Friday night,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's basketball team, plays at Glenville in its second
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: of three exhibition games inside the Waco Center.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: You guys will not be on that broadcast, is that correct?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Brad will be there. I'll be at football. How are
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: they doing the tickets? Because I was imagining people would
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: just be on top of people in there. Have the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: tickets sold out?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: No, I think there's still some available.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Seriously?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: I think there's still some available. I haven't checked this week,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: but as of last week, there was some available.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: So, yeah. All right. That's good. And then a week
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: from Wednesday, they'll play the Fighting Chris Richardsons from Wheeling.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: That'll be the last exhibition. That will be inside the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Hope Coliseum.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: It will.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: And a pit snoggle will be returning to the Coliseum
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: as Quincy is a member of that Wheeling team. Oh. Excellent.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: That'll be fun. And away we go. Three guys before
• 1:25:46
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  Speaker 1: back Thursday. That was episode number 748. You'll be good.