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The Colts Report with Will & Dave Retherford: Training Camp Preview (2.314.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the culture report with Will and Dave Rutherford every Friday on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a little bit of adult language in this podcast if you have children with you or since it of years, please find a different podcast on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome Colts fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for a thrown together version of the Colts Report here with Will and Dave Rutherford here to pretty you can't for a little bit talk about our expectations for camp where the Colts are now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A couple of weeks ago we as a trio for the first time broke down every single game for the Colts this season, please go back and listen to that and today we're going to talk about Colts camp.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's here, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tuesday, my dad was sitting here talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's ripped up on us, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that they start in July, I think today there were 14 to have Rookie's report today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, they're going to be being wins, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Wednesday, July 22nd, there were four teams that reported already the Patriots being one of those Greg, I'm curious to hear kind of your thoughts or your takeaways because you and I were so bearish if we're going to use financial terms this evening, last year on what we thought the culture going to be with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: either Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson now that we know the direction and where they go this year how do you feel?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel pretty much the same as last year is that there's potential for a pretty good team, but this is a championship city with Colx fans who used the championship and pretty good teams are, this is good to us, it's not very good teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we don't have a championship team, we're not as interested and that's just kind of the way this fan base is, and
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[SPEAKER_02]: right now they haven't proven to me that they're a championship worthy team in any way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I feel, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you Greg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you said this last year some, you know, Daniel Jones is going to be good enough to keep us mediocre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be good enough to get us a middle-old-the-road, you know, draft pick and we're just going to continue to stay in this mediocrity, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The last thing I told before the season I told Will, I thought Daniel Jones could be a top 10 NFL quarterback in a top 10 quarterback in the NFL and he was kind of surprised by that and then we found out that's about what he is he can be about the 10th best quarterback in the NFL and that's if you have a great team around him is it possibly can be a championship winning quarterback I think so, but they don't have a good enough roster around the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some, some offensive weapons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're assuming that Jonathan Taylor continued to, to put up the numbers that he continues to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be interesting to see how Alec Pierce does with this new contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it is excited about Tyler Warren, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the loss of Pitman, how much of a loss is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've always kind of been a Josh downspan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I maybe get to a little bit more opportunity for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just need to show himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has some offensive weapons, and I don't think their offensive line is poor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, can they all stay healthy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I be a little concerned about depth?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good offense, a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And defensively, can they,
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[SPEAKER_01]: do what they need to do to keep the cults of games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in front seven good enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Will Howard cited already about Tyler Warren, and how did he do it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I think Tyler Warren can be at top three tied into the league already.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I would have him in my top three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I were going to evaluate the position, the entire league, I think his versatility is a blocker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How they're able to use him as a way and block, how they're able to use him as a fallback, leading Jonathan Taylor when needed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: was really good out of the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you can take them out wide if you need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the cult's best athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's a tight end of the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd take over him right now when you're talking about his future too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think, you know, I think there's better tight ends in terms of receiving capability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Trey McBride is a really good receiver, but I also think that's a product of
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[SPEAKER_00]: being behind in a lot of games and having to kind of force feed them because Marvin Harrison missed six games last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious to see how Warren looks with an entire year of anal Jones if God really can stay healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His last year his fall off once they brought rivers and was pretty extreme.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is something to be concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I expect that Steichen is going to unleash a year or two how to warn that we have not seen yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to have to keep our eyes on Anthony Richardson and clearly we drafting with what the fifth pick, fourth pick for a reason I understand that he's a backup and that he's not ever really materialized here but let's face it I mean we're one injury away from him being able to prove himself again potentially and there's no
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's just never been healthy enough to ever put it together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if he stays healthy, he could be a really, could be a surprise backup for the cults, and who knows what he may have to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that there should be any conversation involving Anthony Richardson being traded because,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only quarterback back up quarterback that I would say I know for sure is going to be back up this upcoming season that I would take over a Richard Timberdly matchups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is in terms of what he's able to do, it's how he's able to be an athlete with, you know, and the listeners of the culture for it, let's get one thanks straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever you have to bring a backup quarterback in a game, the strips gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're done because you don't script for your backup quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as Peyton Manning once said, I believe Tom Moore, the great Tom Moore once said, we don't play with our backup, practicing with our backup because we don't practice buck when Peyton Manning was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to get edited out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the know it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is you don't, you don't practice it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you have a quarterback that has the physical capability
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a perfect backup quarterback because you can bring him in and say, it's gonna be an athlete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we need to go off script, we need to make plays without the constraints that maybe a Daniel Jones needs, you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is going to be a backup quarterback if you can win you a game if Daniel Jones is out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great bullpen arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love him out of my bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I don't think whatever you get for him is going to be not being anywhere near his valuable is him if Daniel Jones gets injured, because you don't want to have to rely on Riley Leonard as good as he played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when that last game is Houston, do you really want him to be back up for the entire year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll open the floor for that debate, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still dream about the potential of Anthony Richardson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, no way will a story about Peyton Manning and Tom more be edited even no matter what word you use to diswrap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say it was a made-up, how that story went.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty much what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see, I'm sure there's going to be teams that call the Colts about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he looks good in a camp, don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Colts aren't winning the Super Bowl this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to say that first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if there's a scenario in which they win a Super Bowl, Anthony Richardson becomes the guy that we expected when they drafted him, that's the only way the culture would in a Super Bowl and I still have my hopes on that although it's not happening at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm still saying, Daniel Jones ceiling is way below Anthony Richardson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I should have the culture of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of answered that by not moving him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to think that they must still have some kind of confidence that he can be the player that he was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's either the hat or nobody wants to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How much has put in some plays for him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was what I was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's interesting that we're talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will and I and a drive to Kansas City to watch the Cardinals play, talked a little bit about like, you've got to freak talent in this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't we utilize some of that freak talent?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't even know that he couldn't be a backfield option in the wildcat option.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tie-in job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know, go out and take a screen pass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Put in a few place where you allow yourself to put that kind of talent on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that even more annoying that we have
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he as good?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but is he at least shown that he could potentially be a capable backup?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I think he shown that at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Richard's in get some plays and other places You put him at risk in his health But it's not like you don't have another another guy sitting there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know in the NFL That's not the way it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know your quarterback and your quarterback
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[SPEAKER_01]: you don't just all of a sudden become a running back or a receiver or whatever typically, but we're talking about a freak athlete here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's core down Stuart this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Slash Richardson, let's slash Richardson this guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dave and Will and I will be right back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna take a quick break to you and we'll be about five seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were out for a little while, talking about what we're going to talk about now and getting the dog in the house, but back from our break, we'll change stikin, I felt like did a pretty good job last year in a lot of ways, felt like his teams came out ready to play almost every game and that was a really good sign, I feel like I have a lot more confidence in him as a head coach than I did at this time last year, this is a really big training camp for him and his staff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's some of the say, in the fence of Shane's Diamond.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I find there are some stats that came out worn sharp of sharp football on Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll ask the artist formally known as Twitter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So since Shane's Diamond became the Colt Head Coach in 2023, the Colt's in first quarter's since our top three employees per drive, scores per drive, and puns per drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's despite all of the issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is definitely an element where he comes out hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he might need the best place scripture in the league in terms of first 15 that we talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's first quarter and third quarter, where he has to be better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his game management is black, lustre, probably it best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's really bad at,
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, it's really bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best way I can say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that his decisions with timeouts, I think his decisions sometimes work in the clock, sometimes play design in the fourth quarter in terms of running the ball on, you know, short yarded situations, eating some clock up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's great at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also think that sometimes, and this is not necessarily football related.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only use the best speaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think your head coach has to be a message deliver during the week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think last year, the way the whole Richardson Jones situation was handled was just unprofessional and weird and epic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Him and Ballard have a lot to work on in terms of how they handle and approach the media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think cult fans, if that can get fixed, will view him in a different light than they do right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dave here's the way I look at Shane Steiken is, I think he's going to be a really good head coach someday, not as the Colt said coach, he completely, like coaching malpractice botched the Anthony Richardson situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not sure that that's recoverable here in Indie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's a big camp for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're starting to get to the point where he's had a
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[SPEAKER_01]: to develop this team into a winner and he hasn't done it yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I understand that he's only part of the equation here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You obviously, your general manager has to put the players together and give you a team to win or not winning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to try to take positive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to talk about the general manager too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're just not winning with the regularity that Coltsman's expect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand why Carly Ursa decided to keep them this year, perhaps, but I think the man is going to be the team president next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a huge year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they don't put us, and it's going to be time for them to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in Vietnam, you're on the long gone out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, they're just holding out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude's making 30 million a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to come beat him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go right over stuff you go right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be the cold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't present it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Optics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't be sitting well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some of the things you shouldn't ship with his brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm running that football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing he couldn't be doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there are a lot of things he can continue to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be the team president after you hire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's the team president, quarterback doesn't happen because he's an executive producer on that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're never going to give the
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the whole Palm Bernie situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a complete conflict.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It changes his, but nobody thought John L. way was going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Peyton Manning has a passion for the pulse being a winning franchise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think it's something he's going to want to do at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just waiting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the only explanation why that jackass is still the cold sir element.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're now we'll be done talking about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go back to Stikein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A great fan fiction fantasy that he has about hate made.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shane Stikein is one of the best coaches in the league of exploiting matchups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he has a player in Tyler Warren who he can explain a lot of materials.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're speaking about you now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that he has a ton of players outside of that offensively to create a lot of conflict with that long set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Alec Pierce is that type of wire receiver, one thing I want to talk about Nick Westbrook, a key day is going to come in as the cult's number two receiver on the net chart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a real huge problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are we going to see the evolution of Ash and Yulin from special teamer to why you're see her too?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think that down size is always going to live it into the slot 5907.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not big enough to play with the big boys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to play in the slot where he is really shifty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets open a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He avoids contact, which is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this receiving core that has been built for Shane Steichen is
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[SPEAKER_00]: leaving a lot to be desired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the absence of Michael Pittman Jr. for everything Coltsman said about him is going to glare a lot early in the season before Shane's name can figure out how to call him offence for a four-quarter game out him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think the Colts have to make a move for another riborcever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, where's it coming from?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's almost August.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I'm not sure that this this cork and can get it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're paying pairs a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to draw all the number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been to the backs and corners and safety.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get the double teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get all those things because Westbrook just didn't good enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's where I'm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I want to pay attention to, and I think something to talk about and look at going into training camp is how often the Shane Steak and Utilized 12 personnel for the listeners of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We love you and appreciate you who do not know what that means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is one running back in two tight ends in the formation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they are going to use Moalecox a lot on the line of scrimmage with two tight ends, then I think the receiver issues are as big of a deal because at that point you only have two receivers on the field and that would be Josh Towns with a slot and now it appears out wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a lot of mask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No weakness that they have a wider receiver too or at least throw a curveball because Shane's psych and he's a 63% of the time he's 11% of the time he's 11% now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one tight end, one running back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really curious to see if that evolution of his game, if he really views Mowale Cox is somebody that he can build around, if he views, drew Ogles 3, if he wants to go 12 personnel that's less run blinded, it's a pretty good tied in roots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that is something that on the positive side, if Steiken can find a way to utilize that, and that is something the league went heavy to last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that teams used to exploit the Seahawks were great at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lions are great at a lot of good offenses have really developed the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are teams that you would say are top 10 offenses in the league and they're really starting to utilize this personnel group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can chainstike and do that to the best of his ability and it would make a huge impact on their receiving for the whole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dave, I have an idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's run the damball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just run the damn ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just cram the ball down other teams throw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, but that's a whole other issue, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's running back, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you can.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But those are easy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You just ask about adding the receiver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're adding a running back, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's easy thing to do at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like them to be here at the beginning of 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Running back is confitted in an evening time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the least of my concern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's finding guys who can run the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of what I want to talk about next.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want you to finish it that little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What could be a pretty darn good offensive one?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying that I don't you DJ get into a usable running back to in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to change up somewhere, because I think last year, you know, we talk about the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a great segue into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that offensive line last year was really great the first eight weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then slowly those wheels started sputtering out as the year went on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it
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[SPEAKER_00]: coincide perfectly with Jonathan Pailer really starting to have his wheel splutter a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back up running back to get cut in camp.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Number two, I'd receive or so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think you're, I think that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that you're wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I would like that to be addressed.
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, definitely needed to be addressed.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you need to have a number two.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And a number three, if you're going to do that.
19:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're just heading to this point with Pailer.
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Dad and I have had this conversation.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really going to start becoming an appreciating
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but I just, the issue with that is the whole TARDIS Super Bowl team this year that we're wasting them, because now we're wasting carries.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But then it means that they expect themselves to be, they need to run him into the ground.
20:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That needs to be what they're focused on.
20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think with the offense?
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, I think they have to establish the run game, and they've got the offensive line to do that.
20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also, but I also know that, you know, we're going to have to have some change of back there a little bit too, I think.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Taylor can't take every carry.
20:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he will get his body will get beat up to the point that he is absolutely terrible in a week 10 and a week 11.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Last year's issues also corresponded with, you know,
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: once Jones got hurt and and they had to run the ball more and defense is working in on that it was impossible to get the orchestra flying was kind of a no win situation.
20:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Much of the others guys too you know yeah so let's go there um I think that I'm watching more than anybody in this campus Jayland travels.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you brought it there because I think you're right.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say that because we view the Braiden Smith leaving for Houston, which I don't love that he left for a division rival, as a addition by subtraction that he really is kind of past his shelf life, prime shelf life is a right tackle, and they've kind of been bringing Jalen Travis along to fill that role whenever he braiden Smith left.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: left guard and the league is anybody.
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think every great run that the Coltav is somehow corresponds to running behind, quitting Nelson.
21:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not worried there.
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Fortalini his evolution in this offense is a second-year sinner.
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It's starting center is going to be monumental for him.
21:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to be really good.
21:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I also really expect Matt Gonzalves to continue to send As it's starting off into alignment in the NFL.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that Travis right tackle is the easiest offensive line area to mask You can't really do so with left tackle.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryanman had a down year last year.
22:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully he can recover, but if Travis is really bad
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have some some issues and it's going to it's going to make him have to go to 12 personnel a lot.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What we saw from him last year was pretty impressive.
22:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He looked great.
22:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I looked at potential to be a pretty darn good tackle.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I really view the offensive line as probably one of our strongest areas.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've got some dead pieces there that can come in and fill in the gaps because there's going to be injuries as we know.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I really feel like that is probably one of the strongest elements this team had.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I would agree.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, which is huge because if we can establish to run game, that's going to open up more opportunities for Jones, with what we're still kind of got question marks about this receiving course.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: If the offensive line is not as good as advertised, this could be a really rough.
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're seven deep.
23:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Blake Freeman and Milton Tucker are both probably low to your starting offensive linemen in the league and they're your six and seventh guy.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I like bringing a freeland off the bench and heavy packages.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect to see a healthy dose of him, especially in the whole online short yard of situations, bringing in the extra guy as Nell's more receiver.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Good options.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be awfully nice if they just had a number two, what are you seeing?
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: If, yeah, I will.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Playing for this dealer.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He is playing for this dealer.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, he was tailor-made for this offense.
23:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm locked down, sealed, and, uh, that's just a horrible choice.
23:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, I love you.
23:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do love out fears.
23:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I promise.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But they just made the wrong choice.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I know I'm, I'm, I'm fairyly in here, just, okay, it doesn't happen.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't happen, but we do have a freak athlete that is, that is, just gonna be sitting there, whole McClubboard, you know, are there places where we can, got to find ways to get him.
24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus it would be fun, possible.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus it would be fun having Anthony Rich,
24:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's coming in the game.
24:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody gets excited, Anthony Richardson the game that got a play that they've been working on all week just to get this big yard.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And it could just speak such a cool thing that they can add to this team.
24:29
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's talk a little bit about the defense.
24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Dave, how big is defense of end this year?
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Just we gotta get some past rush.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to make a break.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Our defense, I mean, our corners are great.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think our depths a little bit of a issue there, but maybe.
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree with that.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think or, I think secondary depth is a strength.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be, but a lot of the people in the guys getting help.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully, they're going to provide the time that even if our edge is not as quick as maybe it should be if corners are holding up, well,
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's going to be huge, and I think it's a big question, Mark.
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I can play right into the strength of Wattu, just kind of free range, because he's not very disciplined as a past rocker.
25:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But free range might be what he's kind of made for.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Art and Key was a huge upgrade.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're all kind of the same.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I think Arden Key was a name upgrade in terms of you know, if you followed NFL for the last eight years, you know of Arden Key, but I'm with you.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that he makes a huge deal.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I really hope that he can kind of have a resurgence with Anna Rumeau.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really hoping that the cults were going to be one of the team's fighting for Tray Hendrix.
26:02
[SPEAKER_00]: come back home with Lou and help this team out tremendously.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lotsu is a great athlete.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope he can put it together because I think he has the tools.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a lot like Richard's.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's not all.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he needs to be a roving outside lineback.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of think so too.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they used to mourn that last year.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you saw him dropping back and covered you a little bit more.
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw him.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: especially in three-man rest situation.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He was dropping back significantly in zone.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Not really manned up with anybody.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we haven't even hit on.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm lying backers there, and make us get some.
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because they're good enough, I think, still in the A-Gap with Stewart and Buckner, that they're going to be able to cost some issues for quarterbacks.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: If Law II is able to get home of hard keys, able to get home within reason,
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: If CJ Allen's not good or, you know, great man, that's the reason I think that they have a low ceiling is just they don't have a middle of their defense, they just don't.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's soft, I thought it was soft last year.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought even Buckner and Stewart were pretty soft last year.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that middle is going to be eaten alive.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a week area, along with edge,
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: not being as strong as a couple of places and we'll folks at the sea if they can craft up the defensive scheme to well to make those things.
27:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We might have some cold games with no passes.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Well we have what this cold scene has to do is they have to get South Skarger and many worn on the field at the same time for a secret to get part of the season.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: because if there is one element of a team that can help your pass rush more than any other it is your quarters they can make that pass rush look really good and they can make the one look ridiculous yeah so they have to be
28:02
[SPEAKER_00]: on the field.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: There are such good players that if they're on the field, they're, they're assets.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just the element can we keep them healthy?
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we keep them over the course of an 18 week schedule on the field for, I don't want to get greedy.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying if we can get them on the field for 14 of 17 games together, 13 of 17 games together, it's going to
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: ward and gardener together as corners.
28:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have been really excited.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Last year didn't go very well for either one of them, so it's a big year for them to.
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: If you had told me that 18 months ago, I said you're an issue, it's why when you do that.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But here we are, I hate to say it.
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we, everybody went with it.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, everybody's on the fact that you don't get something, but it's not
29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, there is significant investment in doing so.
29:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's got, there's something that I, you see that given and paid out of this, this cultural organization, this families, because they want to see great order play.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I get recall one time in my life.
29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: that there's been two corners on a coldsteam, this good.
29:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Montenegro Davis was really good in his mouth.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Not like this.
29:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Not like this, various Butler and Montenegro, we're a pretty good one too.
29:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But the last minute they've made in these corners, they better be my Keynes and Leicester Hayes from 1983.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're talking about a top easily top five duo in the league and maybe better.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We're number one if they're both with their peak,
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Ward two years ago was the best playmaker.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: When he was with a 49er, the best playmaker in the NFL.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: He was not necessarily the best corner, but he was making plays every week that made a difference in the game.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And when it's one of those guys who knows where the ball is and those had a fun, we didn't see a lot of that last year with his limitations, the same with Gardner who two years ago was so damn good.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Last year we just didn't see it much.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I got to ask, I got to ask you guys,
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted out, here's a sign he plays.
30:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, is anybody in front now?
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he black flagged now or is he not able to get into it?
30:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a question, I hadn't even bought it.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in some place else, because I think he would have made this defense better.
30:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, he would have, I mean, in Greg, and I will say, do you say he, you know, don't
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I can recall a game, the cool to game I went to, my senior high school, where the cool to had, just had to beat the raiders at home to make the playoffs, and I watched K-more follow Hunter Rinsfer around, like a lost dog for an entire game.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I, my memory's not gonna serve me right, but I'm not exaggerating, Hunter Rinsfer, man gone for like 20 receptions, 250 yards, and four touchdowns in that game.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Hunter Rintford's played in the NFL in two years.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, there was a time where that wouldn't have been in the case.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But, can me more is really- This was, Greg, this was four years ago.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: This was, can he was private?
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: This happened.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm just not a big fan of cry babies, you know?
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and I get, I get that there were probably some things that I don't- Don't you feel a little hopeless about this franchise, Dave?
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Well,
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you blame a player for feeling a little hopeless about this franchise?
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They're putting all their marbles into a guy who just had an ACL reconstruction who had best is pretty good.
31:52
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what Chris Baloney did.
31:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This is his career.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what he's getting paid.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Big, big time money.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would happily take his money.
32:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
32:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You're only saying this because he's your guy.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to understand a players saying, look, I want to go somewhere where I have a chance.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: This franchise, I've been serving this franchise a long time.
32:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going nothing backwards.
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's he?
32:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's he going?
32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: he served us.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't remember the last time I watched the colds play a fucking playoff game, Greg.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not serving us that well.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And because of him, he was, he was a got better isn't it?
32:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But he more, he's not a player, you're a leader of an organization.
32:40
[SPEAKER_00]: you say that you want to be here and be a part of the solution and you want out to go wins, why win here?
32:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you have to go?
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're busy going to win here.
32:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see hope for a Super Bowl next for you?
32:53
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but any team that is going to go win already has a good nickel.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the third best nickel in the league, Greg?
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't name me two of them.
33:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Nical is a position that's great if you've got a great one.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really important to position today, will.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with today's personality, nobody can ever tell me if the third best Nick one the league is.
33:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's clearly not.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when you watch the games, they mostly just call them.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like having, it's like how best clothes you're in the league.
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody gives a shit.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cares if you have the best clothes you're in the MLB, because the best clothes are two years ago.
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I, Edwin, he is for the mess, the trumpet guy everybody was all about him.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't tell me where he played, do weeks ago.
33:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I had just discovered my role in this, in this, in this podcast, and that is to bring up topics at the time.
33:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, just, no, it just upsets the hell out of me.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, these kids, you're thinking of the fan.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I want out.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I want out.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You're thinking of your situation that he is, that's why.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is, his situation is not working out and I think there's a little bit of karma.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And as an honest lady.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And as a cult, I just say I get his frustration.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: From office, you know, that's all.
34:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I get his frustration.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand where you're coming from with like, hey, like, you know, we're not here.
34:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But Kim, be who you can afford to be.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you can afford to act like you're the best corner of the league, is you're not.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not the best nickel.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you, you're you're the cult's fifth best defensive player last year on their team after the addition of New New Ward and Soss Gardner, you know, you're you're going to be fortunate that if somebody that is actually a contender, it's true Superbowl contender wants you to be a part of their franchise.
34:50
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I do think part of it is he's going to, he's choosing where he wants to go.
34:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to do the old OTABS, he doesn't want to do the
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: that crap work and they want to go sign somebody be ready to go day one of of training camp and he got to pick a spot that's by the way everybody thanks for listening everything from this point on his bonus yeah bonus bonus just like Edwin Diaz on the thought bonus time we're just gonna sit and talk we're just gonna have
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have to go here too, I mean, I know this is probably one of the most very important camp battles that everybody's going to care about.
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's going to win the kicker, specifically?
35:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I, you know, Dave, the Colt came here in 1983 and they had a good kicker.
35:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Freaking here until about the last four years.
35:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get ourselves a good picture again.
35:47
[SPEAKER_02]: What's his name, the hometown hero?
35:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to be helping your shrair?
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be back to compete.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I hope so.
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a huge bottle of good.
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shame.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to him?
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a bush league BS play, you go try to blow a kickers knee out, blocking an extra point.
36:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You deserve a special place in hell, okay, you do, that'll just be quite honest with you.
36:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just upsets me because I mean Spencer, Notre Dame Guy, super personal, interact with him in a training camp a couple of years ago.
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I thought Mike group you was awfully damn good.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, and I think that you have to say that he's probably with a front runner, especially considering, I mean, I think Spencer Trader basically had to get his knee like attached to back together with every ligament and his knee being blown out.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what he's going to be able to do.
36:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Is his power going to be the same?
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: deep that's right.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was going to say.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is today's kicker, you almost have to have a guy who can kick in 60 yards.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got to start thinking about kickers differently.
36:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Because all of them make almost every kick now.
36:59
[SPEAKER_02]: and the guys that are special now are the guys who make one from 65 yards.
37:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but even beyond that, you just have to have that guy.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, I don't know that group, I mean, he said his career long, I believe he set the Colts franchise record.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: In Seattle, last year, I think it was a 62 yarder that allowed them to take the lead before in the Colts defense.
37:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It was 46 yards for a long time.
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, turned into Swiss cheese.
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, the longest kick ever was 63 yards.
37:28
[SPEAKER_02]: The second longest kick ever was 60.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Our whole lives growing.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Until Justin Tucker.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, clearly.
37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, until the Raiders kicker.
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Jenna Cowsky is the first one who just started making them six.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then Aubrey came in and he changed.
37:48
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, Jenna Cowsky looked like the worst kicker in the league.
37:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how good the kicker.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They're super specialized.
37:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They're really a true element, especially with bringing the ball advancing it up to the 35 at times.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a brand-new Aubrey, you talk about an element of a game that helps coach.
38:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You basically need to get one first-ale.
38:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You get one first-ale at three points.
38:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Three points every time.
38:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Now they're all gonna be like that for sure and they're gonna have to they're gonna have to narrow the whole post They just have to narrow the gulp of that's the solution that they never thought of that I can't but What could it just kept the extra point the way it was if you narrow the gulp post?
38:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Well sure, but make the kickers be good not just what big legs make them be good narrow those gulp posts I think that you say that and I I hear you I I think you bring the gulp posts in I still think the kickers are
38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna hit it at 85% or something like that.
38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you got it narrow, I'm even more than that.
38:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep now on, I'm gonna tell.
38:50
[SPEAKER_02]: They got a kick-up between, I'm serious.
38:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Make it to where you have to drive down the field.
38:57
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't make it where a guy can make an 80-yard field goal, and you only have to do get one first goal.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I, you can do that.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You could take the ball back on a touchback in 20.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just say, you're the goal post.
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Make it in a field goal very discol.
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: What are the kickoff rules going to be this year?
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to be the same or are we going to do something different?
39:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just stop with the kickoff.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just stop with the kickoff.
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go between the ball of the 20.
39:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just dumb.
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
39:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
39:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's bring back the onsite kick.
39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to be on that?
39:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you bring the kickoff and just make it the kickoff again.
39:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
39:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't you do everything that you're doing now if incentivizing not having a touch back with the kickoff looking normal?
39:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't you do that?
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Because of the long runs and crashing into each other.
39:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, I forgot this, it's football.
39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so I forgot where it's at.
39:56
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's why, that's the reason that I'm not ever going to go back to doing that.
40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it makes sense.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But why does the college game do it?
40:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Why does high school do it?
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why does anybody do it this?
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not 300 pound guys for each other.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the reasoning.
40:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's understandable.
40:14
[SPEAKER_02]: The brain doesn't matter how big you are.
40:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You get hit by a guy 250 pounds, but no matter how big you are, it's going to hurt your brain.
40:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, those are the reasons that they get that I understand.
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it, it's just... We don't want guys getting all caddy waffles in their brain.
40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can't, I don't want, I don't want the listers of the centrally of sports court to view me as heartless.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you, I don't have any of your heartless, you know.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, I do, I, I don't want to promote violence.
40:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I do promote violence, I, I, I promote physicality.
40:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe it.
40:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I promote, I don't believe it.
40:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe it.
40:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just explaining what it is, I don't believe you want that I think you're right, who wants to manage it.
40:55
[SPEAKER_00]: We have, there's a little bit, there's a little element where your sports climate in the country is reflective of your society as a whole.
41:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that you've sent me, you can't play defense anymore, and be a hand-checking scall and you can't play defense or, you know, you could just be the pacers and just get hacked.
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-oh, if we're done.
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Please die.
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the batter is dead.
41:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You're still on, mine's still on.
41:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Real's a minor.
41:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm flashin' red.
41:26
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