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- 0:00Speaker 1: Introduction of the use of Knowledge in Society. This is
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- 0:15Speaker 1: Read by Stasim The Use of Knowledge in Society by
- 0:20Speaker 1: Friedrich Hayek introduction. Few scholars in the twentieth century have
- 0:25Speaker 1: equalled the breadth of fa Hyek's interests in the human sciences.
- 0:31Speaker 1: His many books and articles focus on the pivotal questions
- 0:34Speaker 1: of theory and method in a variety of disciplines, ranging
- 0:38Speaker 1: from philosophy and natural science to history, law, psychology, and economics.
- 0:45Speaker 1: In spite of the malignant totalitarianism of the times, he
- 0:49Speaker 1: has steadfastly advanced the traditional concern for individual liberty which
- 0:55Speaker 1: he inherited from his classical liberal predecessors, and has become
- 0:59Speaker 1: an intellectual leader of international stature. Born in Vienna in
- 1:05Speaker 1: eighteen ninety nine, Hayak earned doctoral degrees in law and
- 1:09Speaker 1: economics at the University of Vienna following his military service
- 1:14Speaker 1: during the First World War. Over the years, he has
- 1:17Speaker 1: lectured widely throughout the world and pursued an active career
- 1:21Speaker 1: of teaching and research in Austria, England, the United States, Germany,
- 1:26Speaker 1: and Japan. He is professor emeritus of two universities, Chicago
- 1:31Speaker 1: and Freiburg, and now lives in Salzburg, where he continues
- 1:35Speaker 1: to teach and write. Perhaps the most important measure of
- 1:39Speaker 1: a classic is that it speaks for all times. Its
- 1:42Speaker 1: insight is timeless, its relevance never ceases. What the author
- 1:47Speaker 1: says illuminates the past, informs the present, and we may
- 1:52Speaker 1: hope guides men toward wiser actions than they have taken before.
- 1:56Speaker 1: This essay by Professor Hayak meets these criteris both in
- 2:01Speaker 1: the philosophical nature of his discourse and in the subject itself,
- 2:06Speaker 1: man's striving to improve his material well being. This is
- 2:10Speaker 1: the problem of achieving rational economic organization, or the efficient
- 2:15Speaker 1: allocation of available resources. Its solution, Hyek maintains, rests on
- 2:21Speaker 1: the extent to which men can effectively acquire knowledge and
- 2:24Speaker 1: use it economically so that they can make rapid adaptations
- 2:29Speaker 1: to the changes they keep facing in their circumstances. The
- 2:32Speaker 1: method most commonly employed throughout recorded history has been conscious control,
- 2:37Speaker 1: some form of centralized political planning based on an avowed
- 2:41Speaker 1: or implicit belief in superman. Unfortunately, this approach causes a
- 2:46Speaker 1: static rather than dynamic response to man's struggle with his environment,
- 2:51Speaker 1: and produces reactionary policies and even retrogressive results. Without belaboring
- 2:57Speaker 1: the dismal record of those efforts, high up Z finds
- 3:00Speaker 1: the key to success in a far different instrumentality, namely
- 3:05Speaker 1: the free market, which he sees as performing the functions
- 3:08Speaker 1: that are indispensable for the effective acquisition and economical use
- 3:13Speaker 1: of knowledge. The market fully inaccurately reflects personal preferences and
- 3:18Speaker 1: particular facts known only to each individual, and through the
- 3:22Speaker 1: mechanism of the price system, provides for the transmission and
- 3:26Speaker 1: reception of only that portion of this infinite knowledge which
- 3:30Speaker 1: is useful and necessary to achieve rational economy. No other
- 3:35Speaker 1: arrangement can bring about this desired end. It is ironic
- 3:39Speaker 1: that the free market, whose remarkable characteristics hixso clearly delineates
- 3:44Speaker 1: in this essay, has been under constant attack by the
- 3:48Speaker 1: major political antagonists of modern times. On the one hand,
- 3:52Speaker 1: the entrenched leadership in every nation has rejected the price
- 3:57Speaker 1: system by repeatedly instituting restricts controls. On the other, various
- 4:02Speaker 1: groups revolting against this leadership have repudiated economic freedom by
- 4:07Speaker 1: confusing these derigious regimes with the free market economy, which
- 4:12Speaker 1: they denounce, were supposedly enslaving wage price system and dehumanizing
- 4:17Speaker 1: division of labor. In contrast to the obvious coercion and
- 4:21Speaker 1: violence generated by these adversaries, Kayak points the way toward
- 4:26Speaker 1: a truly rational economic order which recognizes the necessity of
- 4:30Speaker 1: individual choice or subjective value, and facilitates peaceful decision making
- 4:36Speaker 1: through the objective functioning of the price system in a
- 4:39Speaker 1: free market. He demonstrates the superiority of what might be
- 4:43Speaker 1: called social individualism over political collectivism as the operative principle
- 4:49Speaker 1: for a free and orderly society. Perhaps contemporary revolutionaries may
- 4:54Speaker 1: yet discover lass a fair as the secret to real reform,
- 4:58Speaker 1: while national leaders may see it as the elusive answer
- 5:01Speaker 1: to the economic disorders which their own actions have intensified
- 5:06Speaker 1: rather than cured. In any event, this essay should prove
- 5:09Speaker 1: helpful to those who are genuinely concerned about these problems.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Kenneth S. Templeton, Junior Institute for Humane Studies, end of introduction.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Section two of the Use of Knowledge in Society. This
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- 5:38Speaker 2: LibriVox dot org. Read by Mary t The Use of
- 5:42Speaker 2: Knowledge in Society by Friedrich Hayek. The Use of Knowledge
- 5:48Speaker 2: in Society. Many of the current disputes with regard to
- 5:53Speaker 2: both economic theory and economic policy have their common origin.
- 5:57Speaker 2: It seems to me in a misconcept about the nature
- 6:01Speaker 2: of the economic problem of society. This misconception, in turn,
- 6:06Speaker 2: is due to an erroneous transfer to social phenomena of
- 6:09Speaker 2: the habits of thought we have developed in dealing with
- 6:12Speaker 2: the phenomena of nature. What is the problem we wish
- 6:16Speaker 2: to solve when we try to construct a rational economic
- 6:19Speaker 2: order on certain familiar assumptions. The answer is simple enough.
- 6:25Speaker 2: If we possess all the relevant information, if we can
- 6:29Speaker 2: start out from a given system of preferences, and if
- 6:33Speaker 2: we command complete knowledge of available means, the problem which
- 6:37Speaker 2: remains is purely one of logic. That is, the answer
- 6:42Speaker 2: to the question of what is the best use of
- 6:45Speaker 2: the available means is implicit in our assumptions. Stated briefly
- 6:50Speaker 2: a mathematical form, it is that the marginal rates of
- 6:54Speaker 2: substitution between any two commodities or factors must be the
- 6:59Speaker 2: same in all their different uses. This, however, is emphatically
- 7:04Speaker 2: not the economic problem which society faces, and the economic
- 7:08Speaker 2: calculus which we have developed to solve it. Though an
- 7:11Speaker 2: important step towards the solution of the economic problem of society,
- 7:15Speaker 2: does not yet provide an answer to it. The reason
- 7:18Speaker 2: for this is that the data for the whole society
- 7:21Speaker 2: from which the economic calculus starts are never given to
- 7:24Speaker 2: a single mind. The peculiar character of the problem of
- 7:28Speaker 2: a rational economic order is determined precisely by the fact
- 7:33Speaker 2: that the knowledge of the circumstances which we must use
- 7:37Speaker 2: never exists in concentrated or integrated form, but solely as
- 7:43Speaker 2: the disperse bits of incomplete and frequently contradictory knowledge which
- 7:48Speaker 2: separate individuals possess. The economic problem of society is thus
- 7:52Speaker 2: not merely a problem of how to allocate given resources,
- 7:56Speaker 2: if given is taken to mean given to a single
- 7:59Speaker 2: mind which deliberately solves the problem set by these data.
- 8:03Speaker 2: It is rather a problem of how to secure the
- 8:06Speaker 2: best use of resources known to any of the members
- 8:09Speaker 2: of society, for ends whose relative importance only these individuals know,
- 8:15Speaker 2: or to put it briefly, is a problem of the
- 8:18Speaker 2: utilization of knowledge which is not given to anyone in
- 8:22Speaker 2: its totality. This character of the fundamental problem has, I
- 8:26Speaker 2: am afraid, been obscured, rather than illuminated, by many of
- 8:30Speaker 2: the recent refinements of economic theory, particularly by many of
- 8:34Speaker 2: the uses made of mathematics. Though the problem with which
- 8:38Speaker 2: I want primarily to deal in this paper is the
- 8:40Speaker 2: problem of a rational economic organization. I shall be led
- 8:45Speaker 2: again and again to point to its close connections with
- 8:48Speaker 2: certain methodological questions. Many of the points I wish to
- 8:52Speaker 2: make are indeed conclusions towards which diverse paths of reasoning
- 8:57Speaker 2: have unexpectedly converged. But as I now see these problems,
- 9:02Speaker 2: this is no accident. In ordinary language, we describe by
- 9:07Speaker 2: the word planning the complex of interrelated decisions about the
- 9:13Speaker 2: allocation of our available resources. All economic activity is in
- 9:18Speaker 2: this sense planning, And in any society in which many
- 9:22Speaker 2: people collaborate this planning, whoever does it, will in some
- 9:26Speaker 2: measure have to be based on knowledge which in the
- 9:29Speaker 2: first instance is not given to the planner but to
- 9:33Speaker 2: somebody else. Yet, somehow will have to be conveyed to
- 9:36Speaker 2: the planner. The various ways in which this knowledge on
- 9:40Speaker 2: which people base their plans is communicated to them is
- 9:43Speaker 2: the crucial problem for any theory explaining the economic process,
- 9:48Speaker 2: and the problem of what is the best way of
- 9:50Speaker 2: utilizing knowledge initially dispersed among all the people is at
- 9:54Speaker 2: least one of the main problems of economic policy or
- 9:58Speaker 2: of designing an efficient economic system. The answer to this
- 10:01Speaker 2: question is closely connected with that other question which arises here,
- 10:05Speaker 2: that of who is to do the planning. It is
- 10:09Speaker 2: about this question that all the dispute about economic planning centers.
- 10:13Speaker 2: This is not a dispute about whether planning is to
- 10:16Speaker 2: be done or not. It is a dispute as to
- 10:18Speaker 2: whether planning is to be done centrally by one authority
- 10:22Speaker 2: for the whole economic system, or is to be divided
- 10:25Speaker 2: among many individuals. Planning, in the specific sense in which
- 10:30Speaker 2: the term is used in contemporary controversy necessarily means central
- 10:34Speaker 2: planning direction of the whole economic system according to one
- 10:39Speaker 2: unified plan. Competition, on the other hand, means decentralized planning
- 10:45Speaker 2: by many separate persons. The half way house between the
- 10:49Speaker 2: two about which many people talk but which few like
- 10:52Speaker 2: when they see it, is the delegation of planning to
- 10:56Speaker 2: privileged industries or, in other words, monopolies. Which of these
- 11:02Speaker 2: systems is likely to be more efficient depends mainly on
- 11:05Speaker 2: the question under which of them can we expect that
- 11:08Speaker 2: fuller use will be made of the existing knowledge. This,
- 11:13Speaker 2: in turn depends on whether we are more likely to
- 11:15Speaker 2: succeed in putting at the disposal of a single central
- 11:18Speaker 2: authority all the knowledge which ought to be used, but
- 11:22Speaker 2: which is initially dispersed among many different individuals, or in
- 11:26Speaker 2: conveying to the individuals such additional knowledge as they need
- 11:30Speaker 2: in order to enable them to dovetail their plans with
- 11:33Speaker 2: those of others. End of section two. Read by Mary T.
- 11:38Speaker 2: San Diego, California, March fifth, twenty twenty four.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Section three of the Use of Knowledge and Society. This
- 11:52Speaker 3: is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the
- 11:56Speaker 3: public domain. For more information or to voluntier, please visit
- 12:01Speaker 3: librovox dot org. Read by Tedleinhart. The Use of Knowledge
- 12:06Speaker 3: and Society by Frederick Hayek. Uncommon knowledge, it will at
- 12:12Speaker 3: once be evident that on this point the position will
- 12:15Speaker 3: be different with respect to different kinds of knowledge. The
- 12:18Speaker 3: answer to our question will therefore largely turn on the
- 12:21Speaker 3: relative importance of the different kinds of knowledge, those more
- 12:26Speaker 3: likely to be at the disposal of particular individuals, and
- 12:29Speaker 3: those which we should, with greater confidence expect to find
- 12:33Speaker 3: in the possession of an authority made up of suitably
- 12:36Speaker 3: chosen experts, if it is today so widely assumed that
- 12:40Speaker 3: the latter will be in a better position. This is
- 12:43Speaker 3: because one kind of knowledge, namely scientific knowledge, occupies now
- 12:48Speaker 3: so prominent a place in public imagination that we tend
- 12:52Speaker 3: to forget that it is not the only kind that
- 12:55Speaker 3: is relevant. It may be admitted that, as far as
- 12:59Speaker 3: scientific knowledge is concerned, a body of suitably chosen experts
- 13:04Speaker 3: may be in the best position to command all the
- 13:06Speaker 3: best knowledge available, though this is of course merely shifting
- 13:10Speaker 3: the difficulty to the problem of selecting the experts. What
- 13:14Speaker 3: I wish to point out is that, even assuming that
- 13:18Speaker 3: this problem can be readily solved, it is only a
- 13:21Speaker 3: small part of the wider problem. Today it is almost
- 13:25Speaker 3: heresy to suggest that scientific knowledge is not the sum
- 13:29Speaker 3: of all knowledge, But a little reflection will show that
- 13:32Speaker 3: there is, beyond question a body of very important but
- 13:37Speaker 3: unorganized knowledge which cannot possibly be called scientific in the
- 13:42Speaker 3: sense of knowledge of general rules, the knowledge of the
- 13:45Speaker 3: particular circumstances of time and place. It is with respect
- 13:50Speaker 3: to this that practically every individual has some advantage over
- 13:55Speaker 3: all others, because he possesses unique information of which beneficial
- 13:59Speaker 3: use might be made only if the decisions depending on
- 14:03Speaker 3: it are left to him, or are made with his
- 14:06Speaker 3: active cooperation. We need only to remember how much we
- 14:10Speaker 3: have to learn in any occupation after we have completed
- 14:14Speaker 3: our theoretical training, how big a part of our working
- 14:17Speaker 3: life we spend learning particular jobs, and how valuable an
- 14:21Speaker 3: asset in all walks of life is knowledge of people,
- 14:25Speaker 3: of local conditions, and of special circumstances. To know of
- 14:30Speaker 3: and put to use a machine not fully employed, or
- 14:33Speaker 3: somebody's skill which could be better utilized, or to be
- 14:37Speaker 3: aware of a surplus stock which can be drawn upon
- 14:40Speaker 3: during an interruption of supplies, is socially quite as useful
- 14:45Speaker 3: as the knowledge of better alternative techniques. The shipper who
- 14:50Speaker 3: earns his living from using otherwise empty or half filled
- 14:54Speaker 3: journeys of tramp steamers, or the estate agent whose whole
- 14:58Speaker 3: knowledge is almost exclusively one of temporary opportunities, or the arbiture,
- 15:04Speaker 3: who gains from local differences of commodity prices, All are
- 15:08Speaker 3: performing eminently useful functions based on special knowledge of circumstances
- 15:14Speaker 3: of the fleeting moment not known to others. It is
- 15:17Speaker 3: a curious fact that this sort of knowledge should today
- 15:20Speaker 3: be generally regarded with a kind of contempt. That anyone who,
- 15:25Speaker 3: by such knowledge gains an advantage over somebody better equipped
- 15:29Speaker 3: with theoretical or technical knowledge is thought to have acted
- 15:33Speaker 3: almost disreputably. To gain an advantage from better knowledge of
- 15:37Speaker 3: facilities of communication or transport is sometimes regarded as almost dishonest.
- 15:44Speaker 3: Although it is quite as important that society make use
- 15:47Speaker 3: of the best opportunities in this respect as in using
- 15:50Speaker 3: the latest scientific discoveries. This prejudice has in a considerable
- 15:56Speaker 3: measure affected the attitude toward commerce in general compared with
- 16:00Speaker 3: that toward production. Even economists who regard themselves as immune
- 16:06Speaker 3: to the crude materialist fallacies of the past constantly commit
- 16:10Speaker 3: the same mistake where activities directed toward the acquisition of
- 16:14Speaker 3: such practical knowledge are concerned, apparently because in their scheme
- 16:19Speaker 3: of things, all such knowledge is supposed to be given.
- 16:23Speaker 3: The common idea now seems to be that all such
- 16:26Speaker 3: knowledge should, as a matter of course, be readily at
- 16:30Speaker 3: the command of everybody, and the reproach of irrationality leveled
- 16:34Speaker 3: against the existing economic order is frequently based on the
- 16:38Speaker 3: fact that it is not so available. This view disregards
- 16:42Speaker 3: the fact that the method by which such knowledge can
- 16:45Speaker 3: be made as widely available as possible is precisely the
- 16:50Speaker 3: problem to which we have to find an answer. And
- 16:53Speaker 3: of section three.
- 17:01Speaker 4: Section four of the Use of Knowledge in Society. This
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- 17:15Speaker 4: The Use of Knowledge in Society by Friedrich Hayek. The
- 17:19Speaker 4: planner's dilemma. If it is fashionable today to minimize the
- 17:24Speaker 4: importance of the knowledge of the particular circumstances of time
- 17:28Speaker 4: and place, this is closely connected with the smaller importance
- 17:31Speaker 4: which is now attached to changes such Indeed, there are
- 17:36Speaker 4: few points on which the assumptions made, usually only implicitly
- 17:41Speaker 4: by the planners differ from those of their opponents, as
- 17:44Speaker 4: much as with regard to the significance and frequency of
- 17:47Speaker 4: changes which will make substantial alteration of production plans necessary.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Of course, if detailed economic plans could be laid down
- 17:56Speaker 4: for fairly long periods in advance and then closely at
- 17:59Speaker 4: the year to so that no further economic decisions of
- 18:03Speaker 4: importance would be required, the task of drawing up comprehensive
- 18:07Speaker 4: plan governing all economic activity would be much less formidable.
- 18:12Speaker 4: It is perhaps worth stressing that economic problems arise always
- 18:16Speaker 4: and only in consequence of change. As long as things
- 18:20Speaker 4: continue as before, or at least as they were expected to,
- 18:24Speaker 4: there arise no new problems requiring a decision, no need
- 18:28Speaker 4: to form a new plan. The belief that changes, or
- 18:31Speaker 4: at least day to day adjustments, have become less important
- 18:35Speaker 4: in modern times implies the contention that economic problems also
- 18:39Speaker 4: have become less important. This belief in the decreasing importance
- 18:44Speaker 4: of changes for that reason, usually held by the same
- 18:47Speaker 4: people who argue that the importance of economic considerations has
- 18:51Speaker 4: been driven into the background by the growing importance of
- 18:54Speaker 4: technological knowledge. Is it true that with the elaborate apparatus
- 18:59Speaker 4: of mande, modern production economic decisions are required only at
- 19:03Speaker 4: long intervals, as when a new factory is to be
- 19:06Speaker 4: erected or a new process to be introduced. Is it
- 19:10Speaker 4: true that once a plant has been built, the rest
- 19:13Speaker 4: is all more or less mechanical, determined by the character
- 19:16Speaker 4: of the plant, and leaving little to be changed in
- 19:19Speaker 4: adapting to the ever changing circumstances of the moment. The
- 19:23Speaker 4: fairly widespread belief in the affirmative is not, as far
- 19:27Speaker 4: as I can ascertain, borne out by the practical experience
- 19:31Speaker 4: of the businessmen in a competitive industry at any rate,
- 19:35Speaker 4: and such an industry alone can serves the test. The
- 19:38Speaker 4: task of keeping costs from rising requires constant struggle, absorbing
- 19:43Speaker 4: a great part of the energy of the manager. How
- 19:46Speaker 4: easy it is for an inefficient manager to decipiate the
- 19:49Speaker 4: differentials on which profitability rests a great variety and costs
- 19:54Speaker 4: of production, even when using the same technical facilities, is
- 19:58Speaker 4: commonplace in business experience, but does not seem to be
- 20:01Speaker 4: equally familiar to many economists. The very strength of the
- 20:05Speaker 4: desire constantly voiced by producers and engineers to be allowed
- 20:10Speaker 4: to proceed untrammeled by considerations of money costs is eloquent
- 20:15Speaker 4: testimony to the extent to which these factors enter into
- 20:18Speaker 4: their daily work. One reason why economists are increasingly apt
- 20:22Speaker 4: to forget about the constant small changes which make up
- 20:25Speaker 4: the whole economic picture, as probably their growing preoccupation with
- 20:30Speaker 4: statistical aggregates, which show a very much greater stability than
- 20:34Speaker 4: the movements of the detail. The comparative stability of the
- 20:38Speaker 4: aggregates cannot, however, be accounted for, as the statisticians occasionally
- 20:43Speaker 4: seem to be inclined to do, by the law of
- 20:46Speaker 4: large numbers or the mutual compensation of random changes. The
- 20:51Speaker 4: number of elements with which we have to deal is
- 20:53Speaker 4: not large enough for such accidental forces to produce stability.
- 20:58Speaker 4: The continuous flow of goods and services is maintained by constant,
- 21:02Speaker 4: deliberate adjustments by new dispositions made every day in the
- 21:06Speaker 4: light of circumstances not known the day before, by b
- 21:10Speaker 4: stepping in at once when a fails to deliver. Even
- 21:14Speaker 4: the large and highly mechanized plant keeps going largely because
- 21:18Speaker 4: of an environment upon which it can draw for all
- 21:21Speaker 4: sorts of unexpected needs, tiles for its roof, stationary or
- 21:25Speaker 4: its forms, and all the thousand and one kinds of
- 21:28Speaker 4: equipment in which it cannot be self contained, and which
- 21:32Speaker 4: the plans for the operation of the plant require to
- 21:34Speaker 4: be readily available in the market. I should also briefly
- 21:38Speaker 4: mention the fact that the sort of knowledge with which
- 21:41Speaker 4: I have been concerned is knowledge of the kind which,
- 21:44Speaker 4: by its nature cannot enter into statistics, and therefore cannot
- 21:48Speaker 4: be conveyed to any central authority in statistical form. The
- 21:53Speaker 4: statistics which such a central authority would have to use
- 21:56Speaker 4: would have to be arrived at precisely by abstracting and
- 22:00Speaker 4: then lumping together items which differ as regards location, quality
- 22:05Speaker 4: and other particulars in ways that may be very significant
- 22:08Speaker 4: for the specific decision. It follows from this that central planning,
- 22:12Speaker 4: which is based on statistical information, cannot, by its nature
- 22:16Speaker 4: take direct account of these circumstances of time and place.
- 22:21Speaker 4: The central planner will have to find some way to
- 22:23Speaker 4: make decisions by leaving them to be made by the
- 22:26Speaker 4: man on the spot. If we can agree that the
- 22:29Speaker 4: economic problem of society is mainly one of rapid adaptation
- 22:32Speaker 4: to changes in the particular circumstances of time and place,
- 22:36Speaker 4: it would seem to follow that the ultimate decisions must
- 22:39Speaker 4: be left to the people who are familiar with these circumstances,
- 22:43Speaker 4: who know directly of the relevant changes and of the
- 22:46Speaker 4: resources immediately available to meet them. We cannot expect that
- 22:50Speaker 4: this problem will be solved by first communicating all this
- 22:54Speaker 4: knowledge to a central board, which, after integrating all knowledge,
- 22:58Speaker 4: issues its orders. We must solve it by some form
- 23:02Speaker 4: of decentralization. But this answer is only part of our problem.
- 23:07Speaker 4: We need decentralization because only thus can we ensure that
- 23:11Speaker 4: the knowledge of the particular circumstances of time and place
- 23:15Speaker 4: will be promptly used. The men on the spot cannot, however,
- 23:20Speaker 4: decide solely on the basis of his limited but intimate
- 23:23Speaker 4: knowledge of the facts of his immediate surroundings. There still
- 23:28Speaker 4: remains the problem of communicating to him such further information
- 23:31Speaker 4: as he needs to fit his decisions into the whole
- 23:34Speaker 4: pattern of changes of the larger economic system. End of section.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Four Section five of the Use of Knowledge in Society.
- 23:52Speaker 5: This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in
- 23:57Speaker 5: the public domain. For more information or to volunteer, please
- 24:02Speaker 5: visit librevox dot org. Read by Anthony JC. The Use
- 24:09Speaker 5: of Knowledge in Society by Friedrich Hayek. Useful individual knowledge?
- 24:17Speaker 5: How much knowledge does the individual need in order to
- 24:21Speaker 5: make these decisions successfully? Which of the events beyond his
- 24:26Speaker 5: own horizon of immediate knowledge, are of relevance to his
- 24:30Speaker 5: immediate decision, and how much of them need he know.
- 24:34Speaker 5: There is hardly anything that happens anywhere in the world
- 24:38Speaker 5: that might not have an effect on the decision he
- 24:41Speaker 5: ought to make. But he need not know of these
- 24:45Speaker 5: events as such, nor of all their effects. It does
- 24:50Speaker 5: not matter for him why more screws of one size
- 24:53Speaker 5: than of another are wanted at the particular moment, why
- 24:58Speaker 5: paper bags are more readily available than canvas bags, or
- 25:02Speaker 5: why skilled labor or particular machine tools have for the
- 25:07Speaker 5: moment become more difficult to obtain. All that is significant
- 25:12Speaker 5: for him is how much more or less difficult to
- 25:15Speaker 5: procure they have become compared with other things with which
- 25:19Speaker 5: he is also concerned, or how much more or less
- 25:23Speaker 5: urgently wanted are the alternative things he produces or uses.
- 25:29Speaker 5: It is always a question of the relative importance of
- 25:32Speaker 5: the particular things with which he is concerned, and the
- 25:36Speaker 5: causes which alter their relative importance are of no interest
- 25:41Speaker 5: to him beyond the effect on those concrete things of
- 25:44Speaker 5: his own environment. It is in this connection that what
- 25:49Speaker 5: I have called the economic calculus or the pure logic
- 25:53Speaker 5: of choice helps us, at least by analogy, to see
- 25:57Speaker 5: how this problem can be solved and being solved by
- 26:01Speaker 5: the price system. Even the single controlling mind in possession
- 26:06Speaker 5: of all the data for some small and self contained
- 26:10Speaker 5: economic system would not, every time some small adjustment in
- 26:15Speaker 5: the allocation of resources had to be made, go explicitly
- 26:19Speaker 5: through all the relations between ends and means which might
- 26:23Speaker 5: possibly be affected. It is indeed the great contribution of
- 26:29Speaker 5: the pure logic of choice to have demonstrated conclusively that
- 26:34Speaker 5: even such a single mind could solve this kind of
- 26:37Speaker 5: problem only by constructing and constantly using rates of equivalents
- 26:43Speaker 5: or values or marginal rates of substitution. That is, he
- 26:48Speaker 5: would have to attach to each kind of scarce resource
- 26:52Speaker 5: a numerical index which cannot be derived from any property
- 26:56Speaker 5: possessed by that particular thing, but which reflect or in
- 27:00Speaker 5: which is condensed its significance in view of the whole
- 27:04Speaker 5: means end structure. In any small change, he will have
- 27:09Speaker 5: to consider only these quantitative indices or values in which
- 27:15Speaker 5: all the relevant information is concentrated, and by adjusting the
- 27:19Speaker 5: quantities one by one, he can appropriately rearrange his dispositions
- 27:25Speaker 5: without having to solve the whole puzzle abinetio or without
- 27:29Speaker 5: needing at any stage to survey it at once in
- 27:33Speaker 5: all its ramifications. Fundamentally, in a system in which the
- 27:38Speaker 5: knowledge of the relevant facts is dispersed among many people,
- 27:43Speaker 5: prices can act to coordinate the separate actions of different people,
- 27:48Speaker 5: in the same way as subjective values help the individual
- 27:52Speaker 5: to coordinate the parts of his plan. End of section five.
- 27:59Speaker 5: Read by Anthony JC. Charlotte, eight Pril twenty fifth, twenty
- 28:06Speaker 5: twenty four.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Section six of The Use of Knowledge in Society. This
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- 28:24Speaker 3: LibriVox dot org. Read by Tedleinhardt. The Use of Knowledge
- 28:29Speaker 3: in Society by Frederick Hayek. Miracle of the price system.
- 28:36Speaker 3: It is worth contemplating for a moment a very simple
- 28:39Speaker 3: and commonplace instance of the action of the price system
- 28:42Speaker 3: to see what precisely it accomplishes. Assume that somewhere in
- 28:46Speaker 3: the world a new opportunity for the use of some
- 28:49Speaker 3: raw material, say ten, has arisen, or that one of
- 28:53Speaker 3: the sources of supply of ten has been eliminated. It
- 28:57Speaker 3: does not matter for our purpose, and it is significant
- 29:01Speaker 3: that it does not matter which of these two causes
- 29:04Speaker 3: has made ten more scarce. All that the users of
- 29:08Speaker 3: tin need to know is that some of the tin
- 29:11Speaker 3: they used to consume is now more profitably employed elsewhere,
- 29:15Speaker 3: and that in consequence they must economize ten. There is
- 29:19Speaker 3: no need for the great majority of them even to
- 29:22Speaker 3: know where the more urgent need has arisen, or in
- 29:25Speaker 3: favor of what other needs they ought to husband the supply.
- 29:29Speaker 3: If only some of them know directly of the new
- 29:32Speaker 3: demand and switch resources over to it, and if the
- 29:35Speaker 3: people who are aware of the new gap thus created
- 29:38Speaker 3: in turn fill it from still other sources, the effect
- 29:42Speaker 3: will rapidly spread throughout the whole economic system. This influence
- 29:47Speaker 3: is not only all the uses of tin, but also
- 29:50Speaker 3: those of its substitutes, and the substitutes of these substitutes,
- 29:54Speaker 3: the supply of all things made of tin, and their substitutes,
- 29:58Speaker 3: and so on. All this takes place without the great
- 30:02Speaker 3: majority of those instrumental in bringing about these substitutions knowing
- 30:07Speaker 3: anything at all about the original cause of these changes.
- 30:10Speaker 3: The whole acts as one market, not because any of
- 30:14Speaker 3: its members surveys the whole field but because their limited
- 30:18Speaker 3: individual fields of vision sufficiently overlap, so that through many
- 30:22Speaker 3: intermediaries the relevant information is communicated to all. The mere
- 30:28Speaker 3: fact that there is one price for any commodity, or
- 30:31Speaker 3: rather that local prices are connected in a manner determined
- 30:35Speaker 3: by the cost of transport, etc. Brings about the solution which,
- 30:40Speaker 3: if conceptually possible, might have been arrived at by one
- 30:44Speaker 3: single mind possessing all the information, which is in fact
- 30:48Speaker 3: dispersed among all the people involved in the process. We
- 30:52Speaker 3: must look at the price system as such a mechanism
- 30:55Speaker 3: for communicating information if we want to understand its real function,
- 31:00Speaker 3: a function which it fulfills less perfectly as prices grow
- 31:04Speaker 3: more rigid. Even when quoted prices have become quite rigid, however,
- 31:09Speaker 3: the forces which would operate through changes in price still
- 31:13Speaker 3: operate to a considerable extent through changes in the other
- 31:16Speaker 3: terms of the contract. The most significant fact about this
- 31:20Speaker 3: system is the economy of knowledge with which it operates,
- 31:24Speaker 3: or how little the individual participants need to know in
- 31:28Speaker 3: order to be able to take the right action. An
- 31:31Speaker 3: abbreviated form by a kind of symbol, only the most
- 31:34Speaker 3: essential information is passed on, and this is passed on
- 31:38Speaker 3: only to those concerned. It is more than a metaphor
- 31:41Speaker 3: to describe the price system as a kind of machinery
- 31:44Speaker 3: for registering change, or a system of telecommunications which enables
- 31:50Speaker 3: individual producers to watch merely the movement of a few pointers,
- 31:54Speaker 3: as an engineer might watch the hands of a few dials,
- 31:58Speaker 3: in order to adjust their actation activities to changes of
- 32:01Speaker 3: which they may never know more than their reflection in
- 32:04Speaker 3: the price movement. Of course, these adjustments are probably never
- 32:09Speaker 3: perfect in the sense in which the economist conceives of
- 32:13Speaker 3: them in his equilibrium analysis. But I fear that our
- 32:17Speaker 3: theoretical habits of approaching the problem with the assumption of
- 32:20Speaker 3: more or less perfect knowledge on the part of almost everyone,
- 32:24Speaker 3: has made us somewhat blind to the true function of
- 32:27Speaker 3: the price mechanism, and led us to apply rather misleading
- 32:31Speaker 3: standards in judging its efficiency. The marvel is that, in
- 32:35Speaker 3: a case like that of a scarcity of one raw
- 32:37Speaker 3: material without an order being issued, without more than perhaps
- 32:42Speaker 3: a handful of people knowing the cause, tens of thousands
- 32:46Speaker 3: of people whose identity could not be ascertained by months
- 32:49Speaker 3: of investigation are made to use the material or its
- 32:53Speaker 3: products more sparingly that is, they move in the right direction.
- 32:58Speaker 3: This is enough of a marvel even and if in
- 33:00Speaker 3: a constantly changing world not all will react so perfectly
- 33:05Speaker 3: that their profit rates will always be maintained at the
- 33:08Speaker 3: same normal level. I have deliberately used the word marvel
- 33:13Speaker 3: to shock the reader out of the complacency with which
- 33:15Speaker 3: we often take the working of the price mechanism for granted.
- 33:19Speaker 3: I am convinced that if it were the result of
- 33:22Speaker 3: deliberate human design, and if the people guided by the
- 33:25Speaker 3: price changes understood that their decisions have significance far beyond
- 33:30Speaker 3: their immediate aim, this mechanism would have been acclaimed as
- 33:34Speaker 3: one of the greatest triumphs of the human mind. Its
- 33:37Speaker 3: misfortune is the double one that it is not the
- 33:40Speaker 3: product of human design, and that the people guided by
- 33:43Speaker 3: it usually do not know why they are made to
- 33:46Speaker 3: do what they do. But those who clamor for conscious direction,
- 33:51Speaker 3: and who cannot believe that anything which has evolved without
- 33:54Speaker 3: design and even without our understanding it can solve problems
- 33:59Speaker 3: which we can solve consciously, should remember this. The problem
- 34:03Speaker 3: is precisely how to extend our utilization of resources beyond
- 34:08Speaker 3: the span of the control of any one mind. And
- 34:11Speaker 3: therefore how to dispense with the need of conscious control,
- 34:15Speaker 3: how to provide inducements which will make the individuals do
- 34:19Speaker 3: the desirable things without anyone having to tell them what
- 34:23Speaker 3: to do. The problem which we meet here is by
- 34:26Speaker 3: no means peculiar to economics, but arises in connection with
- 34:30Speaker 3: nearly all truly social phenomena, including language and most of
- 34:35Speaker 3: our cultural inheritance, and constitutes really the central theoretical problem
- 34:41Speaker 3: of all social science. As Alfred Whitehead has said in
- 34:45Speaker 3: another connection, it is a profoundly erroneous truism repeated by
- 34:50Speaker 3: all copybooks and by eminent people when they are making speeches,
- 34:54Speaker 3: that we should cultivate the habit of thinking what we
- 34:57Speaker 3: are doing. The precise opposite is the case. Civilization advances
- 35:02Speaker 3: by extending the number of important operations which we can
- 35:06Speaker 3: perform without thinking about them. This is of profound significance.
- 35:10Speaker 3: In the social field. We make constant use of formulas, symbols,
- 35:15Speaker 3: and rules whose meaning we do not understand, and through
- 35:18Speaker 3: the use of which we avail ourselves of the assistance
- 35:21Speaker 3: of knowledge which individually we do not possess. We have
- 35:25Speaker 3: developed these practices by building upon habits and institutions which
- 35:30Speaker 3: have proved successful in their own sphere, and which have
- 35:33Speaker 3: in turn become the foundation of the civilization we have
- 35:37Speaker 3: built up. The price system is just one of those
- 35:40Speaker 3: formations which man has learned to use, though he is
- 35:44Speaker 3: still very far from having learned to make the best
- 35:46Speaker 3: use of it, after he had stumbled upon it without
- 35:49Speaker 3: understanding it. Through it, not only a division of labor,
- 35:53Speaker 3: but also a coordinated utilization of resources based on a
- 35:57Speaker 3: similarly divided knowledge has become possible. The people who like
- 36:02Speaker 3: to deride any suggestion that this may be so usually
- 36:07Speaker 3: distort the argument by insinuating that it asserts that, by
- 36:11Speaker 3: some miracle, just that sort of system has spontaneously grown up,
- 36:15Speaker 3: which is best suited to modern civilization. It is the
- 36:19Speaker 3: other way round. Man has been able to develop that
- 36:22Speaker 3: division of labor on which our civilization is based because
- 36:26Speaker 3: he happened to stumble upon a method which made it possible.
- 36:30Speaker 3: Had he not done so, he might still have developed
- 36:33Speaker 3: some other, altogether different type of civilization, something like the
- 36:38Speaker 3: state of the termite ants, or some other altogether unimaginable type.
- 36:44Speaker 3: All that we can say is that nobody has yet
- 36:46Speaker 3: succeeded in designing an alternative system in which certain features
- 36:51Speaker 3: of the existing one can be preserved which are dear
- 36:54Speaker 3: even to those who most violently assail it, such as
- 36:57Speaker 3: particularly the extent to which the individual dual can choose
- 37:00Speaker 3: his pursuits and consequently freely use his own knowledge and skill.
- 37:06Speaker 3: It is in many ways fortunate that the dispute about
- 37:09Speaker 3: the indispensability of the price system for any rational calculation
- 37:13Speaker 3: in a complex society is now no longer conducted entirely
- 37:18Speaker 3: between camps holding different political views. The thesis that without
- 37:23Speaker 3: the price system we could not preserve a society based
- 37:26Speaker 3: on such extensive division of labor as ours was greeted
- 37:30Speaker 3: with a howl of derision when it was first advanced
- 37:33Speaker 3: by von Messes in the early nineteen twenties. Today, the
- 37:37Speaker 3: difficulties which some still find in accepting it are no
- 37:41Speaker 3: longer mainly political, and this makes for an atmosphere much
- 37:45Speaker 3: more conducive to reasonable discussion. When we find Leon Trotsky
- 37:49Speaker 3: arguing that economic accounting is unthinkable without market relations, when
- 37:54Speaker 3: Professor Oscar Laying promises Professor von Messes a statue in
- 37:59Speaker 3: the marble hull of the future Central Planning Board, and
- 38:03Speaker 3: when Professor Abba P. Lerner rediscovers Adam Smith and emphasizes
- 38:08Speaker 3: that the essential utility of the price system consists in
- 38:12Speaker 3: inducing the individual, while seeking his own interest, to do
- 38:16Speaker 3: what is in the general interest. The differences can, indeed
- 38:19Speaker 3: no longer be ascribed to political prejudice. The remaining dissent
- 38:24Speaker 3: seems clearly to be due to purely intellectual and more
- 38:28Speaker 3: particularly methodological differences. End of Section six.