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#912 Parenting Trends: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just answers.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: On today's Happy Families Podcast, we are looking at five
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  Speaker 1: parenting trends to watch in twenty twenty four. I've been
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  Speaker 1: scouring the internet TikTok, spending some time with Kylie, looking
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  Speaker 1: at what the trends are going to be, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got them for you. The five trends to understand what's
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  Speaker 1: happening with parenting in twenty twenty four. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to be on trend, and social media is pushing those
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  Speaker 1: trends harder than ever with TikTok at the front of it.
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  Speaker 1: These five trends are the ones to watch in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. The first one, Kylie.
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  Speaker 2: I digress, but I just want to know, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever been on trend?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Come on, look at me, look at the address.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just putting it out there. Trend has never
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  Speaker 2: been something I've aspired to ever, but I am interested
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  Speaker 2: to hear where this conversation goes today.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Trend Number one, according to the trend spotters, is
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  Speaker 1: that parents are going to be celebrating small wins this
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  Speaker 1: year rather than the big stuff. Parents well, including on
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  Speaker 1: top of the big stuff, parents, based on Pinterest research,
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  Speaker 1: are all about the mini achievements this year.
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  Speaker 2: So pinterest released a report for twenty twenty four, and
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  Speaker 2: it's suggesting that parents won't be waiting for specific days
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  Speaker 2: on the calendar anymore to celebrate big occasions.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that you've been on trend for the
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  Speaker 1: last twenty four to twenty five years because this is
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  Speaker 1: something that you have always done with our kids. Something
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  Speaker 1: cool happens and it's like, well, let's celebrate it. This
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  Speaker 1: is like it's a mini achievement, but we're going to
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  Speaker 1: turn it into something this is something that you just
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  Speaker 1: love to do will.
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  Speaker 2: Pinterest analyzed user intent and reported a huge uptick in
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  Speaker 2: searches for things like end of school year party, monthly
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  Speaker 2: milestone ideas.
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  Speaker 1: Monthly milestones, really yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Baby naming ceremonies, potty training reward ideas, and parties to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate first tea.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to have one of those soon. We've
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  Speaker 1: got to grand baby who's going to have a first
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  Speaker 1: tooth soon.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know any mum who celebrates first teeth.
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to do that because we're the
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  Speaker 1: grandparents and we can. I've got already cringed.
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  Speaker 2: You've gotting it on trend here remembering those bites.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. So that's what pinterest is saying about it.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four. Tiny triumphs will make the heart
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  Speaker 2: grow fonder as parents sprinkle party vibes on her kids
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  Speaker 2: not so grand moments, babies, first tooth, here's a cupcake,
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  Speaker 2: potty training success, Extra sprinkles please?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, what's your reaction to this? What's your reaction
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  Speaker 1: to celebrating small wins.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think it's a really beautiful notion. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: it's something that I have strived to do in our
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  Speaker 2: family without each of our kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't really bag it out because you've been
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  Speaker 1: doing it for most of our lives.
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  Speaker 2: No, but while I have celebrated, I don't think I
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  Speaker 2: have put a huge amount of effort into it. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't blown it out of proportion.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's because we haven't been taking photos and putting
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  Speaker 1: them on social media so you can see how awesome
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  Speaker 1: we are for celebrating this more moment.
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  Speaker 2: But what I love about it is I think too
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  Speaker 2: old and we are so caught up in the end
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  Speaker 2: results right, and the idea that we might celebrate smaller
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  Speaker 2: milestones in our kids' lives offers them grace, us grace,
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  Speaker 2: and just an opportunity to find joy in the journey
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to reaching a destination.
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  Speaker 1: Now you get excited. Change my mind about what I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say. You're saying celebrate because life is
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  Speaker 1: meant to be celebrated and life is fun. And now
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  Speaker 1: I'm torn because, I mean, you do this stuff so
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  Speaker 1: well and you always have and I'm a really big
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  Speaker 1: supporter of what you do there, but I do get
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  Speaker 1: concerned when people feel like they have to do it
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  Speaker 1: to be on trend or this is what everyone's doing,
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  Speaker 1: and it ups the pressure. Like once upon a time
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  Speaker 1: you had a baby and told everybody what it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be, but then the baby gender reveals came
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  Speaker 1: in and there's more and more and more pressure and
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  Speaker 1: more stuff that you've got to do. And it just
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  Speaker 1: the social media likes might make it worth it, I know,
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  Speaker 1: but the weight and the pressure for some parents it
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  Speaker 1: can be a little bit burdensome. And I don't really
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  Speaker 1: like that. However, I mean might also say, oh, everyone
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  Speaker 1: gets surprised, like you've got a big tooth. We don't
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  Speaker 1: need to have a party for that, Like, do you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's the difference, Like why are you
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  Speaker 2: doing what you're doing exactly? You know? Social media has
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  Speaker 2: never played a big part in our celebrations in any way,
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  Speaker 2: shape or form. It's not something that I have invested
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  Speaker 2: in since the beginning. So when I celebrate with my kids,
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  Speaker 2: it's because I want to celebrate them, not because I
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  Speaker 2: want to show everybody else how awesome I am.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't have a problem with everyone getting a
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  Speaker 1: prize anyway, even though the cynics hate it. Teresa Amabil
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  Speaker 1: is a researcher at Harvard, and she's developed research around
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  Speaker 1: this thing called the progress principle, And I just reckon.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, research shows it feels good to make progress,
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  Speaker 1: and when you make progress and you're celebrated, it feels
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  Speaker 1: even more good and it keeps you more motivated. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a problem with this trend. I actually think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a whole lot of fun if
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  Speaker 1: people do it wisely. Second big trend for twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: according to the experts, is that sharenting is out well.
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  Speaker 2: As you can see, I'm already on trend with this one.
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  Speaker 2: Sharanting's all about parents share it all those milestones and
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  Speaker 2: so much more on social media.
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  Speaker 1: So I think this is curious because if we've got
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  Speaker 1: this trend of celebration of small winds going up, but
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  Speaker 1: charenting is out, it'll be interesting to see whether the
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  Speaker 1: people are celebrating all those small wins and putting them
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  Speaker 1: out there on social media or if they're just doing
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  Speaker 1: it because it's great to do.
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  Speaker 2: So why is charenting out?
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  Speaker 1: Though? Two words? Sam Altman?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, who's he?
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  Speaker 1: Sam Altman is the guy who's behind chat gpt. And
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  Speaker 1: of course it's not just chat GPT. There's a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of other generative AI that's out there.
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  Speaker 2: So people upset at sam Oltwyn.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, Well, well potentially maybe there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of legislation, especially in the US and Australia will
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  Speaker 1: follow suit, as will most of Europe. There is really
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  Speaker 1: big concern out there about how AI generated imagery can
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  Speaker 1: be used in unhelpful, unhealthy, dangerous, explicit ways from bad actors.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about AI generated imagery with images of
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  Speaker 1: your kids. So, in other words, when you put your
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  Speaker 1: kids images online. What that does is it actually puts
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  Speaker 1: your kids at risk of having explicit content developed out
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff that's online. I've got a quote here
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  Speaker 1: from Leah Plunkett. Leah Plunkett is based at Harvard. She's
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  Speaker 1: the author of Sharenthood, Why we Should Think Before we
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  Speaker 1: talk about our kids Online. It's a book Sharenthood while
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  Speaker 1: we should Think Before we talk about our kids online?
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  Speaker 1: And she said this recently on the US show News Nation.
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  Speaker 3: If you are a parent watching at home, you should
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  Speaker 3: know that existing generative AI tools and emerging ones are
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  Speaker 3: remarkably sophisticated at producing realistic images based on photographs of
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  Speaker 3: real children. So a simple step that parents, as well
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  Speaker 3: as grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, coaches, and other trusted adults
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  Speaker 3: can take now is to limit or stop sharenting. Sharenting
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  Speaker 3: being a combination of the words share and parent. Most
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  Speaker 3: of us don't think much of taking couple of pictures
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  Speaker 3: and putting them on social media or otherwise digitally transmitting them. Now,
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  Speaker 3: more than ever, it is time for us as adults
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  Speaker 3: to protect the kids in our homes and schools and
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  Speaker 3: neighborhoods by limiting or stopping putting images of kids that
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  Speaker 3: we know and love out on the open Internet.
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  Speaker 2: I hear something like that, and obviously, in my beautiful
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  Speaker 2: safe world safe, I want to say, bubble Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: seems so far fetched that anything I put up is
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  Speaker 2: going to create waves or challenges for my children in
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  Speaker 2: the future.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel as well. But you
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  Speaker 1: have a conversation with somebody like John Rows, who has
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  Speaker 1: been at the forefront of combating child exploitation online for
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  Speaker 1: such a long time here in Australia, and his basic argument.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Madonna King about this recently. She
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  Speaker 1: wrote the book Saving Out Kids, which is all about
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, and she basically said, you can't ever know
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  Speaker 1: that your kids aren't being exploited online. I know always
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  Speaker 1: used to double negative there, but essentially there's no way
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  Speaker 1: of knowing whether your kids are or on or are
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  Speaker 1: not being exploited online. You just don't know. But you
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  Speaker 1: can reduce the risk by not putting images up there.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, your kids may not actually be being exploited,
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  Speaker 1: but their imagery could be. And even that's sickening, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's absolutely just just awful. And so there's this brand
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  Speaker 1: new push into twenty twenty four in terms of trending
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  Speaker 1: where sharenting is out because parents are aware that their
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  Speaker 1: children's images could be used by bad actors in devastating ways.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess we're going to see more food on
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  Speaker 2: the internet.
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  Speaker 1: Less kids and more food, just pictures of the backs
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  Speaker 1: of kids' heads at the birthday party. Okay. Parent trend
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  Speaker 1: number three for twenty twenty four. Parental benign neglect is in.
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  Speaker 2: Baby Okay, a few big words there, What are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Benign neglect is neglecting your kids, but in a
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  Speaker 1: benign way. So you know, if you have a benign tumor,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a tumor there, but it's not cancerous, it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to do any damage to you. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: here about neglect in a non damaging way, which kind
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  Speaker 1: of seems like a contradiction in terms, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what it's like when you know the kids are there,
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  Speaker 1: you're just not really paying any attention to them, and
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  Speaker 1: they're not paying any attention to you. That's what we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about with prints.
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  Speaker 2: It's been my whole parenting journey.
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  Speaker 1: Right probably has been. I found a clip on the
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  Speaker 1: Today Show in the United States where Jennifer Ganna was
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  Speaker 1: talking about this, and when people like Jennifer Ghana, global
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  Speaker 1: superstar movie stars are talking about parental benign neglect, you
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  Speaker 1: just know it's going to trend. Here's what she said.
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  Speaker 4: I just really enjoy my kids.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that I have some overarching philosophy. I
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  Speaker 4: just think they're such cool people and I want to
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  Speaker 4: hear everything and I want to be around. But I
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  Speaker 4: also think it's okay if they suffer from a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of benign total where their lives are their own.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to live their life, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: mind that they see that I love mine.
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  Speaker 1: Is there research on this, So first thing I have
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  Speaker 1: to say is the whole helicopter parenting thing is a
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  Speaker 1: lot more American than it is Australian. Ossie parents tend
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit more benignly neglectful of their
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  Speaker 1: kids anyway, not in a terrible way, but in a
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  Speaker 1: really healthy, positive way, and that's quite good. In terms
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  Speaker 1: of research, though, I would say, yes, the research is there,
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  Speaker 1: and it's called stop being a helicopter parent. Research shows
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  Speaker 1: that when we support our children's autonomy, when we get
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  Speaker 1: out of the way of our kids when we're there
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  Speaker 1: to support them, but not to be involved in every
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  Speaker 1: aspect of their lives all the time, they tend to thrive.
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  Speaker 1: They just do a whole lot better. They just need
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  Speaker 1: to know that we're there. So parental benign neglect is
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  Speaker 1: in I wrote about it way back when I wrote
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  Speaker 1: my book twenty one Days to a Happier Family, which
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  Speaker 1: was like ten or twelve years ago, and even then
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  Speaker 1: I was highlighting that parental benign neglect is actually a
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  Speaker 1: pretty healthy way to be raising our kids. We're there
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  Speaker 1: when they need us, but other than that, we stay
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  Speaker 1: out of their way.
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  Speaker 2: And this actually takes a lot of pressure of parents
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  Speaker 2: if they just trust in the process of our children's
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  Speaker 2: development and growth and giving them the space that they
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  Speaker 2: need to kind of work through the challenges as they come.
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  Speaker 1: So we've done a whole lot of prep for this
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  Speaker 1: podcast episode. We didn't talk about what you just said,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so important. As soon as you said that
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  Speaker 1: word trust in development, you reminded me of a really
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  Speaker 1: important research paper by Landry and colleagues from around about
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  Speaker 1: I think it was about two thousand and six or thereabouts,
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  Speaker 1: where they're talking about how kids who are most likely
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  Speaker 1: to thrive. Are the ones whose parents do exactly that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the word that they use trust or that's
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  Speaker 1: the phrase they use trust in a child's natural development process.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, and parental benign neglect is
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  Speaker 1: more likely to get us there. Let's move on to
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  Speaker 1: trend number four for twenty twenty four. We'll go through
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  Speaker 1: the last too nice and quickly. Trend in number four
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  Speaker 1: is this gentle parents is going to continue to be
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  Speaker 1: all the rage and trendspotters reckon that gentle parenting is
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  Speaker 1: going to extend to the way we name our kids
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Well, according to baby name website name Barry, this calm
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  Speaker 2: and sympathetic parenting style is influencing how parents name their kids.
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  Speaker 2: They've said this and I quote. We're seeing a direct
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  Speaker 2: correlation with gentle, soft sounding names. Parents are favoring names
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  Speaker 2: with calm auras and mellow sounds. Vowels feature prominently in
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  Speaker 2: these names, along with fluid consonants like C, F, L
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  Speaker 2: and S. Girls' names that end with A are both
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  Speaker 2: popular and gentle. Some gentle parenting names to look out
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  Speaker 2: for in the new year. Elba Elis Faye Alfie Una
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  Speaker 2: Willer and Asa.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, love your reaction. I'm not buying it. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not buying I think the trendspots are stretching on this one.
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  Speaker 1: People name their name, they name the kids' names based
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  Speaker 1: on what they like. I don't think gentle parenting trends
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  Speaker 1: are going to affect parenting names. I'm pushing back on
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  Speaker 1: that one. What do you think.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't know if it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a trend or not, but it played a significant role
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  Speaker 2: in how I named each of our girls.
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  Speaker 1: What gentle parenting gentle sounds Chanelle, Abby, Ella, Annie, Lily, Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I've just poop poohed exactly what you did.
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  Speaker 2: I really believe there's something in a person's name, and
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  Speaker 2: I loved the idea that my children would grow up
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  Speaker 2: all right, soft personality.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a thing. Maybe it's a thing. I'll give
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  Speaker 1: you that. Let's do the last one.
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  Speaker 2: Last one. They're saying thrifting is in vintage over you,
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  Speaker 2: jen Zen, parents care more about the environment than older parents. Apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I found a quote from Rati Levesque, who is
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  Speaker 1: the co CEO and president of the Real Real it's
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  Speaker 1: a top luxury resale marketplace, and this is what Rati said.
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  Speaker 1: A potential recession, the climate crisis, and global unrest are
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  Speaker 1: all reasons that going into twenty twenty four, consumers are
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  Speaker 1: making shopping decisions based on value, with sixty six percent
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  Speaker 1: saying they shop resale primarily to get a good deal
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  Speaker 1: as well as their personal value. Obviously, shopping resale means
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  Speaker 1: buying secondhand. This is on trend, This is on the up.
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  Speaker 1: Parents are heading in this direction, according to the trend spots.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Do you do you think that
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  Speaker 1: that's what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love to think that this was what will
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  Speaker 2: actually happen, but I don't. Well, I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: great idea, I don't think it's something that will really
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  Speaker 2: take off in any significant why numbers Because it takes
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  Speaker 2: too much time, the convenience of just going to the
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  Speaker 2: shop and picking up what you want and knowing it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be there in your size, clean, ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: You're pretty partial to marketplace.
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  Speaker 2: I love market Place.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same thing exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But it takes time, and so so many times I
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  Speaker 2: see things that I really like the idea of. But
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  Speaker 2: oh I've got to drive another twenty minutes down the road,
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  Speaker 2: and the organizing with the person to make sure my
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  Speaker 2: my timetable works with theirs, and getting it's just tricky.
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  Speaker 2: So for the average person, time, poor parent who just
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  Speaker 2: wants products now, it's just not feasible. Okay, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think? One word Sheen, actually two words and Timu.
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  Speaker 2: Sheen and Timu.
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that buying secondhand going retro or
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  Speaker 1: vintage or thrift or whatever is definitely rising. There's definitely
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  Speaker 1: more interest in it, but it's just too convenient and
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  Speaker 1: too cheap. And when you've got these Chinese global behemoths
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  Speaker 1: like Sheen and Timu, I just don't think that it's
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  Speaker 1: actually going to ever be more popular and more more
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  Speaker 1: sought after than brand new stuff. The Sheen juggernaut is
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  Speaker 1: just massive. And as much as people say that they
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  Speaker 1: care about values and ethics and the environment, price wins
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  Speaker 1: every time. And I just don't think that this this
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  Speaker 1: trend is actually going to stick or be strong enough.
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  Speaker 2: So they're the five big trends for twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: How are we trending so far?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, celebrating small wins, I love it. Keeping kids
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  Speaker 1: off sharenting, totally into it, parental benign neglect. It works
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  Speaker 1: for me. Gentle parenting names well, we're past that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: We've named all of our kids. But for people who
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  Speaker 1: are listening who are coming up with names, I think
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  Speaker 1: they're going to do whatever they want. As for retro
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  Speaker 1: and thrifting, near Sheene is just too big. My real
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  Speaker 1: answer to this, though, is just stay off TikTok. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't care about the trends, stay off TikTok. It'll
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  Speaker 1: never bother you everything. I'll be fine. We so much
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that you've been listening to the podcast. Hopefully you've
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  Speaker 1: gotten heaps out of it. The Happy Families podcast is
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  Speaker 1: produced by Justin Roland from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is
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  Speaker 1: our executive producer. For more information about making your family
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  Speaker 1: happy and staying with the stuff that is the same
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  Speaker 1: as ever, the stuff that doesn't change according to trends,
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that just builds strong, solid families. You know,
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