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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform it. Tonight the Albanize government unveils
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Speaker 1: yet another attack on your free speech, and speaking of
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Speaker 1: free speech, the weirdest and dumbest one I've heard in
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Speaker 1: Parliament in years.
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Speaker 2: I say that this Goupi Air government have been cappy.
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Speaker 1: Agrees to a government plan to reform aged care, but
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Speaker 1: no one is saying exactly how much more people have
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Speaker 1: to pay. That's curious. Well, so tonight King Charles is
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Speaker 1: going woke on his visit here, and Environment's Tania Plemosk
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Speaker 1: suddenly ducks for cover. I'll also talk to one of
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Speaker 1: my regular guests who were sitting in his office in
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Speaker 1: this Pentagon building twenty three years ago this morning when
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Speaker 1: a plane of passengers was rammed into it. We just
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Speaker 1: haven't learned the lessons of nine to eleven. I also
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Speaker 1: have to say something about something I find shocking that's
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Speaker 1: being used to attack the investigators into the war crimes
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Speaker 1: that a Strand soldiers committed in Afghanistan. But first, today
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Speaker 1: we saw more scenes in Melbourne that warn us that
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Speaker 1: our immigration program has carelessly naively led in people who
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Speaker 1: aren't grateful and cause strife. And the Abadizi government is
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Speaker 1: just recklessly making this worse and more dangerous. But let
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Speaker 1: me first show you a video shot today as an
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Speaker 1: example of the problem. Yesterday we had twelve hundred protests
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne, many waving the Palaestinian flag, attack police and
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Speaker 1: police horses, and stage dangerous riots and exhibition by weapons manufacturers.
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Speaker 1: Today a couple hundred more marched through the city, once again,
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Speaker 1: blocking traffic, with one carrying a Palestinian flag and shouting
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Speaker 1: in Arabic support for three Iranian backed terrorist groups harmas
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Speaker 1: the Hutis, Hezbollah, Hamas.
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Speaker 3: Their husband Lallah, not Bak, not by kr Holiday.
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Speaker 4: What he said a.
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Speaker 3: Hoss right here.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes we should be frightened, I think, not just
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Speaker 1: by the support for terrorist groups that are banned here,
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Speaker 1: but that final abuse of Zionists, which I take to
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Speaker 1: be a Camoufage word for Jews. How has this happened
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Speaker 1: that such a person can praise the terrorist groups that
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Speaker 1: have helped to turn as Middle Eastern homeland into bloody war,
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Speaker 1: mungering tyrannies infested with terrorist groups, now rewarding Australia this
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Speaker 1: homeland now like this, Now there's more from that march today.
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Speaker 1: Some of the pro palace in your marchers, yelled at
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Speaker 1: Australians watching them. Australians have clearly had enough now of
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Speaker 1: imported people causing mayhem on our streets and importing their
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Speaker 1: tribe tensions.
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Speaker 5: You are taking our hives. God, I'm disgusting.
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Speaker 1: These lands are disgusting. Australia's discussing the country that gave
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Speaker 1: her refugees disgusting and it's us, somehow that took her home.
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Speaker 1: I just wonder how we can let in someone so ungrateful,
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Speaker 1: let in her family, someone who rewards us with abuse,
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Speaker 1: contempt and disruptive protests against Israel in the war actually
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Speaker 1: started by Islamu's terrorists. Now clearly this is the tip
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Speaker 1: of a much bigger problem. For instance, the listed speakers
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Speaker 1: that yesterday's violent protests in Melbourne, including several included several refugees,
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Speaker 1: are asylum seekers we took in, or the children of them,
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Speaker 1: like Nasir Mashni, whose father Muslim militant praised at his
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Speaker 1: funeral by the leader of Hamas would you believe came
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Speaker 1: here claiming to be a Christian refugee. Maushni Junior now
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Speaker 1: preaches his own contempt for Australia and has passed in
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Speaker 1: its flag at some of the many pro Palastinian rallies
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Speaker 1: has been addressing or helping to organize. His head with
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Speaker 1: the Australian Palastinian Having seen network, I know you.
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Speaker 6: Feel that waiving the Australian flag might make a racist
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Speaker 6: white person think that you're acceptable, But that is the
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Speaker 6: colonized flag.
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Speaker 1: They does not belong here. Gee, thanks for telling us
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Speaker 1: what's acceptable in this country. But in response to this problem,
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Speaker 1: what has the government done. Well. One, it's actually brought
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Speaker 1: in more Palestinians and from terrorists run Gaza, at least
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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred so far without even an interview on tourist visa.
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Speaker 1: Two there's the pandering, the government's reluctance to call out
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Speaker 1: some of the important hate preachers is Sydney. And three,
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Speaker 1: even more stunning, is actually now funding Muslim and Palestinian groups,
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Speaker 1: including ones that preach Islam and preach loathing of Israel.
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Speaker 1: In fact, one of those groups includes as a Sheikh
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Speaker 1: Ibrahim Dadoun, who two days after Hamas last year massacre,
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Speaker 1: twelve hundred Jews beheaded, men, raped women and kidnaped two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one people, celebrated on the streets of
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Speaker 1: Sydney smiling and I'm happy.
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Speaker 6: I'm in.
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Speaker 1: That's a day of courage. Done is one of the
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Speaker 1: shakes of the United Muslims of Australia, which the government
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Speaker 1: names is one of its preferred organizations that bid for
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Speaker 1: five million dollars in grunts, almost all of it to
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Speaker 1: Palestinian groups and Muslim ones. It's named to reduce the
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Speaker 1: hate and build harmony. I know whose hate the problem is?
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Speaker 1: So is this the doone? Actually the kind of guy
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Speaker 1: with helping the fund? Now? Why is the government actually
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Speaker 1: playing foot seas with organizations that hire people like Dadoun who,
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Speaker 1: even after praising Hamas attack to the prayers at a
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Speaker 1: function featuring pram In Sir Anthony Albanezi. Well, how about
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Speaker 1: Nasha Mashni, that Palaestini extremist who hates our flag. He
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Speaker 1: has even had Foreign Minister of Penny Won promoting him.
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Speaker 1: And this does not make sense. Now, it is true
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Speaker 1: that a rabble of other leftists, not Middle Eastern, are
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Speaker 1: involved in these nasty protests as well home grown people that,
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Speaker 1: as I said last night show, the cultural rot of
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Speaker 1: Melbourne in particular, as even an ABC reporter and a
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Speaker 1: security have now found during a live broad cast protests.
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Speaker 1: Some masks like the crowds, they are frightening.
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Speaker 4: A woman ad on, excuse me there. We're just obviously
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Speaker 4: here right now at the moment, so we have obviously
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Speaker 4: a bit of an issue at the moment. We have
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Speaker 4: security here trying to stop you. Get out of their camera.
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Speaker 6: Get out of the camera.
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Speaker 4: At the moment, we're obviously trying to report on this.
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Speaker 1: So we have enough idiots like that here already. But
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Speaker 1: then we import people from the Middle East, many of
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Speaker 1: them yes, quite peaceful, absolutely, But then we panic because
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Speaker 1: some a minority turn out to be dangerously extreme, some
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Speaker 1: hostile to Australia, and this government responds by importing more
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Speaker 1: and spending millions on the groups that actually emphasize their
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Speaker 1: ethnic and religious difference, their separateness. This is the wrong way,
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Speaker 1: go back. This way lies real and present danger. A
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Speaker 1: huge reform announced today, but strangely without the most important
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Speaker 1: fact that people need to know.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: I've said for a long time that our politicians will
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Speaker 1: need to face hard choices because we can't go on
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Speaker 1: like this with age care, and not when we're living longer,
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Speaker 1: not when the number of people aged over eighty and
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Speaker 1: needing care is predicted to triple over the next forty years,
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Speaker 1: and this morning the Opposition agreed to the Abeneze government's
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Speaker 1: plan to cut the explosion in costs that we're being
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Speaker 1: seen in age care by spending billions more on home care,
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Speaker 1: which is cheaper and probably better for most people, and
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Speaker 1: making people in residential care pay more base on their income.
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Speaker 7: Several principles underpin these reforms. Australians will get the support
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Speaker 7: they need and make a reasonable contribution according to their means,
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Speaker 7: as the task Force recommended, and no worse off principle
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Speaker 7: will provide certainty to people already in aged care and
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Speaker 7: they won't make a greater contribution to their care. The
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Speaker 7: government will pay one hundred percent of clinical care costs,
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Speaker 7: with individuals contributing to the clients of costs they would
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Speaker 7: typically pay throughout their lives. The government will continue to
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Speaker 7: pay the majority of aged care costs.
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Speaker 1: All very good, but there was one key figure missing.
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Speaker 1: How much more will this cost people new entrants into
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Speaker 1: the age care system in dollars? No one knows or
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Speaker 1: no one is telling. I've seen modeling being tossed about
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Speaker 1: suggesting that people on the penchip will pay three hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars more, but self funded retirees thirteen thousand dollars more,
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Speaker 1: which seems for me to be a tax on prudence,
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Speaker 1: a tax on people who paid already much more in
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Speaker 1: taxes and have saved for their retirement. But who really
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Speaker 1: knows the real costs? Joining me is ouurth Thursday regular
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Speaker 1: Bundby Joyce, the Opposition spotsman on Veterans Affairs and former
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Speaker 1: Deputy Prime Minister Bund to be Joyce, good to see
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Speaker 1: you again. Look the coalition today. I haven't been puzzled.
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Speaker 1: They said yes to the government's age care package, at
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Speaker 1: least in the first reading of it, even though many
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Speaker 1: of its MPs are against it, and even though we
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Speaker 1: haven't even been told how much more self funded retailer
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Speaker 1: is in particular will now have to pay. I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen a single dollar figure on it. Are you a favor?
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Speaker 6: Well, yes, I am. Now go Why we're on the
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Speaker 6: horns of a dilemma here because if we don't get
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Speaker 6: the uplift factor, we don't control the ball, the cricket ball.
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Speaker 1: That's bold to us.
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Speaker 6: We have to deal with it is we don't have
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Speaker 6: control the total budget to go find other savings. If
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Speaker 6: we did, I imagine we'd go to the intermitted power
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Speaker 6: position and the money that's just been recklessly thrown out
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Speaker 6: the top of the window for swindle factories and follow
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Speaker 6: take fields are black or we don't have that option,
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Speaker 6: and if we don't get the upliff factor, we do
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Speaker 6: put at risk a lot of age care facilities, especially
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Speaker 6: in regional areas.
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Speaker 1: We acknowledge fully that there.
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Speaker 6: Will be people who will be upset by this, But
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Speaker 6: the concern we have is we have a costing issue
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Speaker 6: for people in age care, or we have in some
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Speaker 6: areas the closure of age care. Now we can't just
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Speaker 6: have people out in the street. Where do they go?
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Speaker 6: You can't you can't just take graandmar back to the
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Speaker 6: family and say sorry, there's nowhere for anymore. You have
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Speaker 6: to look after yourself. So you know, this was an
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Speaker 6: invidious issue for which we have to find the best
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Speaker 6: outcome for two positions which.
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Speaker 1: You need.
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Speaker 6: Neither of those you want, so you have to take,
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Speaker 6: to be quite frank, the lesser of two evils.
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Speaker 1: Well, I totally agree with you. Always thought that we
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Speaker 1: need to have that really tough argument one day about
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Speaker 1: the family home. But I have to say It seems
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Speaker 1: to me a little bit of a sales job that
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Speaker 1: here we have a program, a plan, but without a
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Speaker 1: dollar figure attached in terms of what people will have
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Speaker 1: to actually pay. And I think that seems to me
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a swifty. The government today announced
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Speaker 1: it up to nine officers are going to be stripped
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Speaker 1: of their medals because of the alleged war crimes committed
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Speaker 1: on their watch by twenty five special forces personnel in Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the alleged and lawful killing of thirty
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Speaker 1: nine people. Absolutely shocking stuff if true. Your Defense spokesman
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hasty, who did serve in Afghanistan, seemed surprised that
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Speaker 1: the head of the ADF at the time, General Angus Campbell,
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Speaker 1: did not have his medals taken away as well. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, he was a man overall in charge. And
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Speaker 1: Senator Jackie Lamb he was even more astonished.
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Speaker 3: I've listened to them, Tara Court, Tokubble, Canada Heart to
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Speaker 3: do ye to Candra, excuse me, those in the chain
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Speaker 3: of command should have asked more questions.
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Speaker 6: Once again, we've learnt nothing. We have to hold people accountable.
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Speaker 3: You can't just throw the diggers under the bus.
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Speaker 6: These guys up people.
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Speaker 5: Were making decisions. They were making decisions and if I.
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Speaker 6: Didn't know what was going on in the ground, then
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Speaker 6: they should have known.
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Speaker 1: Benab Be Joyce, do you think the buck should actually
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Speaker 1: stop at the top?
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Speaker 6: Well, I think you stole the line. I was going
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Speaker 6: to use this responsibility stop at the bottom of Does
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Speaker 6: responsibility reability stop at the top? And you know, I
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Speaker 6: will obviously defer to those who are in the field,
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Speaker 6: on the battleground in these areas, and Andrew Hasty certainly
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Speaker 6: was one of those. I've also been discussing it with
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Speaker 6: other people who are in Afghanistan today, and yeah, they
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Speaker 6: there's a myriad of views, but they all believe in
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Speaker 6: the chain of command and the responsibility that's ultimately held
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Speaker 6: by those who give the ultimate source of the order
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Speaker 6: now and they have the ultimate source of the organizational
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Speaker 6: plan of how this the outcome, the objective is going
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Speaker 6: to be obtained. Now, we don't know who these people are. Therefore,
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Speaker 6: I can't give a view about the circumstances of any
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Speaker 6: of them because I don't know any of their names.
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Speaker 6: And even if I did, I would not be so
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Speaker 6: bold as to make a suggestion myself, I would talk
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Speaker 6: to others who were closer to the circumstances that they
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Speaker 6: were in and asked them of their opinion, taking all
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Speaker 6: things into account that were before them.
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Speaker 1: Environments of tenure. Plibusk Barnaby was supposed today to put
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Speaker 1: a new Nature Positive Plan to Parliament, but she pulled it,
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Speaker 1: pulled it off the agenda. She says she's negotiating more
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Speaker 1: with the Greens, which is extremely ominous. But maybe I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm hopeful that the government is suddenly nervous
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Speaker 1: after this revolt by business in particular about one part
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Speaker 1: of this plan, a tougher rule that would make it
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Speaker 1: every development be assessed on what it did to global warming.
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Speaker 1: You can see that would be an activist paradise. What
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Speaker 1: do you think is going on?
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Speaker 6: Oh, this is something I'm incredibly passionate about.
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Speaker 1: For your listeners who are not on the land.
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Speaker 6: This is the creep of socialism, the divestment of an
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Speaker 6: individual of their privately owned asset to be vested in
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Speaker 6: the community, to be vested in the general ownership without payment.
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Speaker 6: There's a word for that. It's called communism. And it
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Speaker 6: does not work. So even if you're not on the land.
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Speaker 6: You should see these issues and really it should ring
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Speaker 6: bells in your head and go no way. If you
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Speaker 6: want something, by it, but don't steal it by Caviot
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Speaker 6: after Caviot, after cavi It. I want to give you
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Speaker 6: a couple of examples. One bushfire that goes through the land.
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Speaker 6: At times it germinates seeds, germinates seeds, and next thing,
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Speaker 6: you have trees going up in a lot of areas.
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Speaker 6: Now you're not allowed to control those. If you can't
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Speaker 6: control the trees, that means the pasture's gone, the land
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Speaker 6: is useless. They've come up with overriding statements and areas
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Speaker 6: where you can only graze the land four six weeks
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Speaker 6: of the year, so you're paying the rates for twelve
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Speaker 6: months of the year. You had to buy it one
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Speaker 6: hundred percent, so you've been divested of that asset. Other areas,
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Speaker 6: if it's the name creek, you can't dig a hole
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Speaker 6: in it to water your stock. You've got other areas
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Speaker 6: now where you can't put a crop. And even though
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Speaker 6: you may have cropped it before, this is happening. You
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Speaker 6: are divesting private assets and allowing the government to do
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Speaker 6: it on the premise of some sort.
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Speaker 1: Of quasipo virtue.
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Speaker 6: And this Nature Repair Bill is yet the next one,
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Speaker 6: even the nominiclatch of it, the nature Repair Bill, What
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Speaker 6: exactly are you repairing?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 6: Are you repairing or are you stealing? Is it the
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Speaker 6: far is that the land theft bill?
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Speaker 1: Is that actually what it is?
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Speaker 6: And who are we actually attacking on this? I mean,
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Speaker 6: the most noble gesture you can deliver to the world
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Speaker 6: is to feed or clothe them. Surely that is the case.
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Speaker 6: And with a population heading towards ten billion people, doesn't
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Speaker 6: Australia have a moral duty to put food into the
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Speaker 6: food stack so that people don't start to death and
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Speaker 6: they will if you don't. Yet, what we're doing in
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Speaker 6: this nation is making it harder harder for us to
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Speaker 6: do our moral obligation to the world and feed them.
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Speaker 6: Yet what we are having to abide by is a
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Speaker 6: raft of policy positions driven by the inner suburbs of Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane,
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Speaker 6: at the expense of regional Australia, at the expense of
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Speaker 6: our belief in private ownershi, which is supposed to be
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Speaker 6: a cornerstone of a Western democracy, and a place such
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Speaker 6: as Australia and at the expense of being able to
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Speaker 6: do what we should do, which we have an obligation
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Speaker 6: to the globe to do, feed people. And so I
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Speaker 6: hope that not only do they pull the bill, they
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Speaker 6: pull the bill and throw it in the bin, because.
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Speaker 1: This is.
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Speaker 6: Incredibly invidious step to a further socialization of Australia. We've
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Speaker 6: had enough with wind to how swindle factories, follower take
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Speaker 6: black governments just tearing through our land. Will he nearly
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Speaker 6: putting caviots on us? And this is yet the next
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Speaker 6: iteration of it. Do not listen to the nominal clatcher.
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Speaker 1: Look at exactly what they're doing.
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Speaker 6: It is just further caveats on private assets owned by
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Speaker 6: private individuals that been paid for over generations.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's called the Nature Positive Bill. Actually I think
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Speaker 1: it should be called the People Positive Bill. I think
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Speaker 1: we are first responsibility, as you've just suggested, is to
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Speaker 1: the people, rather than to some earth worshiping nature god
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Speaker 1: kind of faith people first, Barnaby Jewish, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for your time. What is a pleasure. I just
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Speaker 1: need to add something about some of the commentary I've
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Speaker 1: actually been hearing today about these war crimes allegations we've been.
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Speaker 1: I was discussing there with Barnaby, the allegations against twenty
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Speaker 1: five of our soldiers, the alleged killing by them of
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Speaker 1: thirty nine armed captives in Afghanistan. These allegations, we're told
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Speaker 1: are being persecuted, being prosecuted by people back in Australia
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Speaker 1: with no understanding of the realities of war, of the
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Speaker 1: war these soldiers had to fight. This is so wrong
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Speaker 1: and this is so unfair. The evidence against these soldiers
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Speaker 1: actually came in most part from other soldiers, battle hardened soldiers,
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Speaker 1: soldiers who were actually there in Afghanistan, who knew exactly
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Speaker 1: what was going on, who were horrified, and who gave
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Speaker 1: evidence a huge risk to their career to the inquiry
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Speaker 1: into these allegations. And I think we dishonor those men
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Speaker 1: by disparaging the accusations, by making light of the alleged
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Speaker 1: execution of thirty nine unarmed prisoners. We have to be
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Speaker 1: better than that, and I think Australians are now after
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Speaker 1: the break. It was on this stage twenty three years
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Speaker 1: ago that we watched Disnemus terrorists fly planes into American buildings,
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Speaker 1: killing three thousand people. I'll talk to one of my
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Speaker 1: regular guests, the general who had one of those planes
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Speaker 1: fly into his own building on September eleventh, an American
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Speaker 1: general who warns, we've lost the plot and the world
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Speaker 1: is even now more dangerous. Twenty three years ago today,
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Speaker 1: the world changed, although looking around now, maybe it only
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Speaker 1: paused because we seem to have ended up in the
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Speaker 1: same place, only worse. Twenty three years ago today, Australians
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Speaker 1: woke up to see you on TV. Planes hijacked by
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Speaker 1: al k the terrorists hitting the World Trade Center buildings
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Speaker 1: in New York. The buildings soon collapsed from the intense heat,
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Speaker 1: killing everyone trapped in the upper floors and many of
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Speaker 1: the firemen trying to save them. It wasn't over. One
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Speaker 1: other plane crashed into a field, as believed the passengers
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Speaker 1: overpowered the hijackers. A fourth, though, smashed into the Pentagon,
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Speaker 1: the headquarters of the US military, and sitting inside that
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Speaker 1: building was a regular commentator on the Bolt Report. General
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Speaker 1: Jack Keane, who was Fastief of Staff for the United States Army,
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Speaker 1: a four star general and is now Chairman of the
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Speaker 1: Institute for the Study of War. General Jack Keene is
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Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you again. Before I get to
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Speaker 1: how that day changed the world. And in fact, now
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Speaker 1: back to somewhere where we started. What are you memories
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Speaker 1: of that day? As sitting in your offices as a
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Speaker 1: plane filled with passengers tragically smash into your building.
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Speaker 8: We had seen the two airplanes crashing to the World
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Speaker 8: Trade Center, and certainly we knew that they were terrorist attacks, obviously,
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Speaker 8: and as I was talking to my senior leader in
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Speaker 8: the operations center, I ordered it to be fully manned
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Speaker 8: after the first attack, and we were discussing that an
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Speaker 8: airplane was flying up by ninety five, which a major
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Speaker 8: highway to run south to north on the east coast,
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Speaker 8: heading towards Washington, d C. I turned to the east
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Speaker 8: and then turned south, and my discussions were around what's
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Speaker 8: the process to evacuate buildings in Washington, d C. And
22:45
Speaker 8: as we were having that discussion, a plane hit the Pentagon.
22:48
Speaker 8: It rocked my office. Some of the ceiling came down.
22:51
Speaker 8: It wasn't particularly significant damage. I was probably seventy five
22:55
Speaker 8: meters from the immediate cresh site. We had a serious problem,
22:58
Speaker 8: for sure. I told my people call home and then
23:01
Speaker 8: to go home, and I took my aid and another assistant.
23:05
Speaker 8: I had some T shirts in my office we went
23:09
Speaker 8: them down, and we went down to the point where
23:11
Speaker 8: the challenges were and had helped some people get out
23:15
Speaker 8: of there, and then I went to the operations center
23:19
Speaker 8: and manned it. And we recognized full well that we
23:23
Speaker 8: had to provide all the support we could for Central
23:26
Speaker 8: Command because we knew the United States was at war,
23:30
Speaker 8: and we stayed there working in those plans to support
23:33
Speaker 8: them for most of the day until about one two
23:36
Speaker 8: o'clock in the morning around twenty three hundred. Prior to midnight,
23:41
Speaker 8: I went to the hospital to see the wounded. They
23:44
Speaker 8: were spread around six different hospitals, and as I made
23:48
Speaker 8: contact with the wounded, it was obvious to me the
23:51
Speaker 8: heroism that we would eventually make public was really quite extraordinary,
23:57
Speaker 8: and people saving one another's lives. Lost eighty five Army
24:01
Speaker 8: teammates that day, and we knew that life would change
24:06
Speaker 8: dramatically for all of us, you know, as a result
24:08
Speaker 8: of it. It changed my life. I've been involved in
24:11
Speaker 8: national security and foreign policy largely because of that war
24:15
Speaker 8: since I've left the military, and I've been very active
24:19
Speaker 8: in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan while they were ongoing.
24:22
Speaker 8: Even as a retired retired officer It changed the United
24:27
Speaker 8: States for sure, a massive intelligence failure on our cart. Andrew,
24:32
Speaker 8: I think we did the right thing to go to Afghanistan.
24:34
Speaker 8: We deposed at Taliban, we went after the al Qaeda.
24:38
Speaker 8: I think we made a strategic mistake and taking attention
24:42
Speaker 8: off the al Qaeda when we went into Iraq, and
24:45
Speaker 8: we had a divert huge amount of resources to that endeavor.
24:50
Speaker 8: And here we are sitting here today having surrendered Afghanistan
24:55
Speaker 8: to the very enemy we went there and deposed Post
24:58
Speaker 8: nine to eleven. The Taliban are now in charge, and
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Speaker 8: the al Qaeda and the ISIS terrorist organizations are on
25:07
Speaker 8: the rise, and we walked out of their complete failure.
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Speaker 8: And I think the world is a more dangerous place
25:15
Speaker 8: Andrew as the result of it.
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Speaker 1: It is extraordinary and it's tragic that we now do find,
25:22
Speaker 1: as you say, found ourselves in some ways in a
25:26
Speaker 1: more dangerous spot. I mean, you've got, as you say,
25:28
Speaker 1: the Taliban is actually back in control of Afghanistan. You've
25:32
Speaker 1: got terrorists a group for many funded by Iran in
25:36
Speaker 1: an all out war against Israel. You've got Iran on
25:40
Speaker 1: the brink of a pecular of building its first nuclear bomb.
25:45
Speaker 1: You've got Iraq, which was also invaded, as you say,
25:50
Speaker 1: to remove Dictata Saddam Hussein. All right, you know there's
25:53
Speaker 1: some freedom there to an extent, but it's crawling with
25:57
Speaker 1: Iranian backed militias that are attacking US bases. Who is
26:01
Speaker 1: the MISSA virtually cut off the Siouxz Canal general. This
26:06
Speaker 1: is quite frightening, and I wonder what happened to American resolve,
26:09
Speaker 1: in fact, Western resolve. It's not just America in that time.
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Speaker 8: Yes, I think that really is the critical issue. Our
26:18
Speaker 8: adversaries believe that we've lost our political will and determination
26:22
Speaker 8: to confront them, and the evidence is pretty clear. We
26:26
Speaker 8: were not able to deter Russia from invading Ukraine. We
26:30
Speaker 8: certainly haven't done much to discourage President chief from his
26:33
Speaker 8: aggressiveness in the Indo Pacific region, which he chooses to
26:36
Speaker 8: dominate and replace the United States as the world's leading superpower.
26:40
Speaker 8: And Iran has been very aggressive from the very beginning
26:44
Speaker 8: of the Biden administration. When Biden administration reached out to
26:48
Speaker 8: try to appease them and get back into the nuclear deal,
26:52
Speaker 8: and what did Iran do? They had their proxies attack
26:55
Speaker 8: US troops in the region. Over two hundred times. They
26:57
Speaker 8: blocked the Suez Canal from major effect now for months,
27:02
Speaker 8: and they've operationalized their proxies to destroy the state of
27:05
Speaker 8: Israel and drive the United States out of the region.
27:08
Speaker 8: We're in a much more dangerous situation now than we were,
27:12
Speaker 8: I think on nine to eleven, because we have four
27:16
Speaker 8: major adversaries andrew nation States, China, Russia, Iran, and North
27:23
Speaker 8: Korea opposing us and working together. We could find ourselves
27:27
Speaker 8: at war, with direct conflict with our allies on our
27:31
Speaker 8: adversaries in multiple regions.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think one thing we've forgotten is a lesson
27:39
Speaker 1: very dramatically learned for a while in two thousand and one,
27:44
Speaker 1: is that if you don't fight your enemies over there,
27:48
Speaker 1: you will have to fight them at home, and that
27:51
Speaker 1: is devastating. But there's been one good development to General Keane,
27:56
Speaker 1: far too late. You've been arguing for this for months,
28:00
Speaker 1: months and months and months, but US President Joe Biden
28:03
Speaker 1: is now reportedly going to drop the ban on Ukraine
28:06
Speaker 1: firing the missiles. Has been getting from the West to
28:10
Speaker 1: drop the ban on firing them into Russia itself. How
28:15
Speaker 1: important is this development if it goes ahead, and what
28:18
Speaker 1: are the claims that it will just push Russia into
28:20
Speaker 1: firing back the nuclear missiles.
28:23
Speaker 8: I think what is beginning to change their mind is
28:26
Speaker 8: Russia's using ballistic missiles to attack the Ukrainians and they're
28:31
Speaker 8: quite deadly. And now the Iranians have given the Russians
28:36
Speaker 8: hundreds of short range ballistic missiles that may have put
28:40
Speaker 8: this thing over the line. And hopefully the Biden administration
28:45
Speaker 8: and other Europeans remove those restrictions. I mean some precedent, Andrew,
28:50
Speaker 8: you think of it. Russia invades Ukraine and we're telling
28:53
Speaker 8: Ukrainians that don't use the weapons were given you so
28:56
Speaker 8: that you can do damage to Russian military inside Ussure
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Speaker 8: from where they are conducting all of the attacks from
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Speaker 8: airbases and missiles and ground forces from the Russian side
29:08
Speaker 8: of theboard. It has never made any sense. It's unprecedented
29:12
Speaker 8: in warfare imposal restriction like that.
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Speaker 1: If only they listened to you a lot earlier, in general, Keen,
29:18
Speaker 1: a lot more Ukrainians would be alive today, I suspect,
29:22
Speaker 1: and the war would be much closer to being resolved.
29:25
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, indeed for your time.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, Andrew, appreciate it very much.
29:31
Speaker 1: After the break, I said, I side, I'd got new
29:34
Speaker 1: information that made me for you. I'd been stitched up
29:37
Speaker 1: in a court case that banned two of my articles.
29:40
Speaker 1: Now karma comes for the man that celebrated that day.
29:44
Speaker 1: Plus the dumbest speech I've heard in Parliament in a
29:47
Speaker 1: long time. Before I get to the panel, an update
29:55
Speaker 1: on my exclusive last night. Jeff Clark, the former head
29:59
Speaker 1: of the Discretion and sacked the Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander Commission,
30:02
Speaker 1: now faces sentencing for stealing nearly one million dollars that
30:07
Speaker 1: was meant to help Aborigines, wasn't meant for stuff like
30:10
Speaker 1: building decking at his home, or as he claims, for
30:13
Speaker 1: his legal bills. Jeff Clark, Well, I knew him well. Now.
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Speaker 1: I told you last night that thirteen years ago I
30:21
Speaker 1: was sued by activist Pat Etock for offending and intimidating
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Speaker 1: her by writing that she'd chosen to be Aboriginal when
30:30
Speaker 1: she clearly had other options. The judge agreed i'd racially
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Speaker 1: discriminated against her and others like her, and banned two
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Speaker 1: of my Herald Soun articles from being republished. But as
30:40
Speaker 1: I showed last night, new research into her ancestry appears
30:43
Speaker 1: to show that of her eight great grandparents, seven were
30:47
Speaker 1: white and one was in fact part African. She wasn't
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Speaker 1: Aboriginal at all, according to this research. So on that basis,
30:57
Speaker 1: I was right along. But back then Etoch celebrated her victory,
31:03
Speaker 1: and look who celebrated with her the same Jeff Clark
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Speaker 1: dressing himself in Aboriginal way. And there he was because
31:12
Speaker 1: he was one of the other eight people also included
31:14
Speaker 1: in Etoch's case was in her name. They were part
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Speaker 1: of it. You see, I had said unlawfully. It seemed
31:21
Speaker 1: that Clark had also chosen to identify as Aboriginal. His
31:25
Speaker 1: father was British, but one grandmother was Aboriginal, and one
31:33
Speaker 1: grandparent was New Zealand an Aboriginal, so he identified as
31:37
Speaker 1: Aboriginal too, which in fact is what allowed Clark to
31:41
Speaker 1: get his mits on that million bucks of Aboriginal money
31:45
Speaker 1: that he stole. I tell you the way the federal
31:48
Speaker 1: court tried to crush the debate in average and identity
31:50
Speaker 1: as real consequences. You probably wonder why we seem to
31:57
Speaker 1: be getting more stupid, And it's true we are. I mean,
32:01
Speaker 1: you've a look at former Green Senator now Independefatomic Payman.
32:05
Speaker 1: She perhaps made the most stupid speech in Parliament at
32:08
Speaker 1: least in years and years, the speech borrowing gamer and
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Speaker 1: African American slain influenced by games in a movie about
32:19
Speaker 1: talking toilets in a pitch to people who I believe
32:24
Speaker 1: would be the youngest, the most ignorant or uneducated voters
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Speaker 1: of all.
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Speaker 2: To the Sigmas of Australia. I say that this goofy
32:33
Speaker 2: Air government have been cappy, not just now but for
32:37
Speaker 2: a long time.
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Speaker 3: They must have.
32:38
Speaker 2: Brain rot from watching too much Kaisanat and forgot about
32:42
Speaker 2: their plans to ban social media for kids under fourteen.
32:46
Speaker 2: If that becomes law, you can forgore skol emoji all
32:50
Speaker 2: about watching Duke Dennis or catching a dub with the
32:53
Speaker 2: bros on Bourt chat. Is this Prime Minister serious? Though
32:58
Speaker 2: some of you cannot yet vote, I hope when you
33:01
Speaker 2: do it will be in a more go to Australia
33:04
Speaker 2: for a government with more aura skivity.
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Speaker 1: Joined mister the panel James McPherson from the late Debate
33:12
Speaker 1: here and scone News and Evelyn Ray Farmer, former policeman
33:16
Speaker 1: and scone News regular James, what worries me about that
33:19
Speaker 1: speech is that this senator wants people who talk like
33:22
Speaker 1: that to influence our politics.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Andrew, I must confess I didn't know what brain,
33:27
Speaker 9: what brain rott was until I heard that speech. And
33:31
Speaker 9: now I know if Senator Payment. If Senator Payment wanted
33:35
Speaker 9: to be edgy, she should stand up in the Senate
33:37
Speaker 9: and say HERMAS is a terrorist organization that must lay
33:40
Speaker 9: down its arms and release the hostages before any talk
33:43
Speaker 9: of cease fire. But instead she comes up with this,
33:46
Speaker 9: which is really just it's just a confession. She's a
33:49
Speaker 9: former labor senator now finding herself as an independent who
33:52
Speaker 9: no one is interested in, and so she's trying to
33:55
Speaker 9: make headlines. I did not understand a word of that.
33:57
Speaker 9: So I sat down with my nineteen year old son
34:00
Speaker 9: and I said, do you understand this?
34:02
Speaker 1: He said yeah.
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Speaker 9: I said what she's saying? He said, she's saying politicians
34:05
Speaker 9: lie and they talk a lot. I said, is that it?
34:08
Speaker 9: He said yes.
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Speaker 1: I said is she cool? He laughed? He said, Dad,
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Speaker 1: it's so cringe.
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Speaker 9: She's reading it from a laptop. The one thing young
34:15
Speaker 9: people do know is they know authenticity, and that was
34:19
Speaker 9: not authentic. I've got one question, though, Andrew, if we're
34:22
Speaker 9: going to go through a glossary of gen Z terms.
34:25
Speaker 9: What would be the gen Z term for very poorly advised?
34:29
Speaker 9: Because I think that would fit Senator Payment.
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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for picking me up on my deliberate mistake,
34:36
Speaker 1: of course, to see whether you were on the ball.
34:38
Speaker 1: Senator Payment is a former labor senator if she just
34:42
Speaker 1: acts like agree, Evelyn, what do you make of that
34:46
Speaker 1: speech targeting people that very much need a voice in
34:51
Speaker 1: our politics, or people best left to their game or
34:54
Speaker 1: their games.
34:56
Speaker 10: To be honest, it was so cringe worthy I needed
34:59
Speaker 10: to duck behind my chair here and take cover because
35:01
Speaker 10: I couldn't take it anymore by viewing it. I'm just
35:05
Speaker 10: looking for the reset button, Like, how do we rewind
35:07
Speaker 10: time so that none of us have to witness this
35:10
Speaker 10: horrible monstrosity ever again. But look, it doesn't surprise me.
35:14
Speaker 10: This is the state of our politicians.
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Speaker 3: You know.
35:18
Speaker 10: It seems to be that so many of them are
35:21
Speaker 10: just second place winners who were bullied in high school
35:24
Speaker 10: and come into this fruition and make a mockery of
35:27
Speaker 10: our nation. It was an utter mockery.
35:30
Speaker 6: You know.
35:30
Speaker 10: It used to be such an esteemed position and honorable
35:33
Speaker 10: position to you know, be a politician and take care
35:36
Speaker 10: of a nation.
35:36
Speaker 7: It's just so simple.
35:38
Speaker 10: Just do your job, do it well, and get rid
35:40
Speaker 10: of cut all the fat off the meat, and get
35:43
Speaker 10: rid of all this nonsense. Because I can't take it
35:45
Speaker 10: any longer. I really can't take it. And if people
35:47
Speaker 10: enjoy this, I don't want them anywhere near that, you know,
35:50
Speaker 10: the driving stick of our nation's that's bad news.
35:56
Speaker 1: Yes, I think this is an example of the hyperdemocracy
36:00
Speaker 1: once were warned against, where apologists would increasingly appeal to
36:04
Speaker 1: the worst, the least ignorant, and the least knowing. Instead
36:08
Speaker 1: of trying to elevate the conversation, they would push it down. Meanwhile,
36:14
Speaker 1: the ambanies and government's going the other way on this
36:17
Speaker 1: sort of thing, agreeing to coalition demands to somehow banned
36:20
Speaker 1: children's is what you're talking about from getting onto social
36:23
Speaker 1: media like x or TikTok and Facebook to protect them,
36:27
Speaker 1: but it also of course cuts their access to the
36:29
Speaker 1: news and stifles their voice. I thought James tom Connell,
36:33
Speaker 1: our Sky News colleague, put a fascinating question today. The
36:37
Speaker 1: government's going to find social media giants big money. We
36:41
Speaker 1: don't know how much, but you know, be in the
36:43
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousand dollars if they don't ban kids. But
36:46
Speaker 1: what if parents think their kids should be online and
36:50
Speaker 1: sign them up themselves, will they be fined? Yeah?
36:54
Speaker 9: Well exactly. Then adults would be breaking the law. And
36:58
Speaker 9: that's the problem with this policy and many ideas that
37:02
Speaker 9: we see coming from the Albenzy government. It reminds me
37:04
Speaker 9: of the Rudd government which put out these thought bubbles
37:07
Speaker 9: which clearly had not been thought through, which had more
37:10
Speaker 9: holes than a piece of Swiss cheese, and created more
37:13
Speaker 9: questions than answers. And that's certainly true of this policy.
37:17
Speaker 9: I think we all agree social media is a problem
37:20
Speaker 9: with our young people, but announcing that you're going to
37:23
Speaker 9: ban it for children fourteen and under without having thought
37:27
Speaker 9: through all of the consequences is just poor policy. But
37:31
Speaker 9: it's typical, sadly, of what we see from the Albenzy
37:34
Speaker 9: government in so many areas.
37:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I say, Evelyn, you know this is actually
37:39
Speaker 1: part of this wider assault on the social media giants
37:42
Speaker 1: and the flow of information because the governments meanwhile also
37:45
Speaker 1: trying to get new online misinformation laws through parliament. Who
37:49
Speaker 1: defines misinformation this time to ban misinformation? Is this could
37:53
Speaker 1: reasonably be found to be false, what's reasonably mean and
37:57
Speaker 1: likely to cause serious harm to things that public health,
38:01
Speaker 1: confidence in the economy, or to racial and religious groups.
38:04
Speaker 1: So feel vilified like Pettitop did when he, you know,
38:08
Speaker 1: the person who's claiming to be Aboriginal and wasn't. What
38:12
Speaker 1: is this fear of free speech?
38:17
Speaker 10: Look, honestly, this is just the nanny state striking again,
38:21
Speaker 10: doing what it does best going. I think both of
38:23
Speaker 10: these two stories that you've mentioned, Andrew, are very much linked.
38:27
Speaker 10: I think that, you know, I would almost disagree with
38:29
Speaker 10: James that you know that they're fumbling their way through it.
38:32
Speaker 10: I actually think it's very intentional all of these things
38:35
Speaker 10: that they're trying to do, because how are you going
38:37
Speaker 10: to police any of this, You know, with children on
38:40
Speaker 10: social media with censorship, the way that you police it
38:43
Speaker 10: is through the adults. And how do you police that
38:46
Speaker 10: is through digital identification. I mean, how else could they
38:49
Speaker 10: reasonably figure out whether it's a child using a social
38:53
Speaker 10: media device or who needs censorship or an adult. That's
38:56
Speaker 10: exactly how they're going to do it. They're doing it
38:58
Speaker 10: under this cloak of righteousness, this oh, you know, we're
39:02
Speaker 10: here to prevent harm.
39:04
Speaker 7: We're here to do good.
39:05
Speaker 10: But you know with this disinformation misinformation stuff. You know,
39:09
Speaker 10: tyrants never come overtly out there saying hey guys, I'm evil.
39:14
Speaker 10: They always come disguised as good. And that's exactly what's
39:18
Speaker 10: going to happen here. Who's the arbiter of you know,
39:21
Speaker 10: what's true and what's false. We've seen, you know, the
39:23
Speaker 10: really bad side of when you CeNSE a debate. The
39:27
Speaker 10: last few years the government have totally and utterly squandered
39:31
Speaker 10: the trust of the public. Do we really want to
39:33
Speaker 10: trust them to determine moving forward what's misinformation and disinformation?
39:38
Speaker 10: If they truly were convicted by this legislation, and they
39:41
Speaker 10: were objective and they were impartial, they would be marching
39:44
Speaker 10: themselves to ban themselves and they will be going down
39:48
Speaker 10: to the court and getting themselves arraigned to go into prison.
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Speaker 1: Evla Y Jameson firsta thank you very much to you both.
39:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I laugh, but it's actually quite serious freedom speech.
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Speaker 1: If you don't have that freedom, you can't defend any
40:03
Speaker 1: of your others. I mean, freedom of speech is that important,
40:07
Speaker 1: and it just seems to be on the auction block
40:10
Speaker 1: right now. Evan and Ray James McPherson. You heard them.
40:14
Speaker 1: They'll be back next week, well after the break. King
40:19
Speaker 1: Charles goes woke ahead of his trip to Australia and
40:22
Speaker 1: plans also to give us electure on global warming. That's
40:26
Speaker 1: a worry. King Charles is coming to Australia in October,
40:34
Speaker 1: among other things, that will be giving us a global
40:37
Speaker 1: warming message. And if that isn't woke enough, he's dropping
40:41
Speaker 1: the word walk about that the Royals use for meeting crowds,
40:47
Speaker 1: dropping it supposedly out of respect for Aborigines. Joining me
40:50
Speaker 1: from London is Patrick Christie's star presenter for GBN News. Patrick,
40:54
Speaker 1: great to see you again after your break, because this
40:56
Speaker 1: is really necessary. I mean, walk about is actually an
41:00
Speaker 1: English word chosen by the Queen for an English concept
41:03
Speaker 1: meaning the public. And what's so offensive about it? I
41:07
Speaker 1: would have thought using you know, if it's seen as
41:10
Speaker 1: a tribute to Aboriginal words or language or something, that
41:14
Speaker 1: would be good. Yeah.
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Speaker 11: I mean there's absolutely nothing wrong with it really, And
41:21
Speaker 11: this is a sign yet again I hate to say,
41:23
Speaker 11: of the King getting absolutely terrible advice from woke advisors.
41:27
Speaker 11: And the only thing that it fuels is this idea
41:30
Speaker 11: of historical wrongs of the monarchy, and it chips away
41:33
Speaker 11: at the integrity of our family. I mean, I went
41:35
Speaker 11: for a little walk about this morning. Little did I
41:37
Speaker 11: know I was desecrating Aboriginal culture. But here we are anyway.
41:41
Speaker 11: It's the latest in a long line of this stuff.
41:43
Speaker 11: He apologized or was told to apologize some Caribbean nations.
41:47
Speaker 11: So the historical wrongs of the slave trade shock horror
41:50
Speaker 11: loads of those still want to leave the Commonwealth. There
41:52
Speaker 11: was a lady whose real name was Marlene Hadley who
41:55
Speaker 11: changed her name to Ungozie Forlani and wore African dress,
41:59
Speaker 11: went to the pallace and an elderly person at the
42:01
Speaker 11: palace said to her, or where are you really from? Well,
42:04
Speaker 11: that fuel the load of claims that the Royal family
42:06
Speaker 11: was racist. The Royal Family apologized, shot horror. As far
42:09
Speaker 11: as she was concerned, the Royal Family was still racist.
42:12
Speaker 11: Charles has come out and said diversity is our greatest strength.
42:15
Speaker 11: Well over the weekend we had another pro Palestine march
42:18
Speaker 11: here where someone holding a Union Jack flag had that
42:20
Speaker 11: ripped out of their hands. That might raise some questions
42:23
Speaker 11: about that. The Coe Noor diamond they refuse to wear
42:25
Speaker 11: that shot horror. The Indians are still very angry. And
42:28
Speaker 11: of course the environment that you mentioned there, which I
42:30
Speaker 11: think you will all be listening to his lecture on
42:32
Speaker 11: the Australian people on the environment. Appeasement doesn't work all
42:37
Speaker 11: it does. All it does is highlight certain historical quotes, unquotes,
42:42
Speaker 11: wrongs and add fuel to the fire for people who
42:44
Speaker 11: want to do away with the monarchy.
42:47
Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail on the hit. There
42:49
Speaker 1: was a nice moment that when the King met the
42:52
Speaker 1: New Zealand women's rugby team which asked him for a
42:54
Speaker 1: hawg here is Yes, that was lovely. But I'm going
43:03
Speaker 1: to say Patrick, there was another video this week that
43:05
Speaker 1: delighted a lot of people but worried me. And that
43:08
Speaker 1: was a video from Catherine, Princess of Wales saying she
43:11
Speaker 1: was on the mend. You know, it's being difficult, but
43:13
Speaker 1: she was getting through it. I wondered why it was
43:15
Speaker 1: so very very highly produced, why Kate didn't say it
43:19
Speaker 1: in an interview for instance, or going in public. And
43:22
Speaker 1: I wonder if in fact she is far more ill
43:25
Speaker 1: than people think, and as a cancer that's actually very serious,
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Speaker 1: maybe Belle cancer for instance.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I think you'll absolutely bang on the money there.
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Speaker 11: The British press, for the main absolutely lapped that video up.
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Speaker 11: What a great thing. And yeah, the video was nice
43:42
Speaker 11: and it was great to see her and it was
43:43
Speaker 11: great to see in her family setting, don't get me wrong.
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Speaker 11: But it was what she didn't say, wasn't it. She
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Speaker 11: didn't say her actual overall treatment is over. She didn't say,
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Speaker 11: as far as I could tell, that she was cancer
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Speaker 11: free now or really I think that she was in remission,
43:58
Speaker 11: and those things are deeply, deeply concerned. I will caveat
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Speaker 11: that by saying it is every single individual's right to
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Speaker 11: be as open or otherwise about their own personal medical history.
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Speaker 11: There is a gray area with that one. I think
44:08
Speaker 11: it does come to our royal family. She did offer
44:11
Speaker 11: a ray of hope, though she did appear to say
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Speaker 11: that she's going to be back at royal duties quite soon,
44:15
Speaker 11: which indicates that maybe she is feeling well enough to
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Speaker 11: do that, and it gave a wonderful insight really or
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Speaker 11: be it, you know, potentially staged, but a wonderful insight
44:23
Speaker 11: into her relationship with William and the kids. Because if
44:25
Speaker 11: we cast our minds back all those months ago When
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Speaker 11: the news first broke about her cancer diagnosis, et cetera,
44:31
Speaker 11: and that she was withdrawing from public life, there were
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Speaker 11: a lot of absolutely vile and disgusting rumors doing in
44:36
Speaker 11: the rounds about what could quotes unquotes really be going
44:38
Speaker 11: on there. So in a way I think that video
44:41
Speaker 11: did more good than harm. But you're right, it's what
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Speaker 11: she didn't say that it's quite worried.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I thought it showed lovely insight into an obviously
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Speaker 1: loving relationship there. And it must be difficult because she
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Speaker 1: does not want I think her diagnosis to be in
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Speaker 1: the papers, particularly I mean with young children that would
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Speaker 1: pick it up. That would be very unfair on them.
45:04
Speaker 1: I guess your new Prime Minister seems to be losing
45:08
Speaker 1: a lot of support very fast. He says, Oh, prisons
45:12
Speaker 1: are too full, but instead of building more of them,
45:14
Speaker 1: has led a lot of criminals get out early. There's
45:17
Speaker 1: even film now of some being welcome with champagne, another
45:21
Speaker 1: being driven away from jail in a Lamborghini. How else
45:24
Speaker 1: is all this going down?
45:29
Speaker 11: What's going down terribly? It's incredible orwellian. We're being told
45:31
Speaker 11: that for our own safety we need to let people
45:35
Speaker 11: out of prison. Some of those people include saxophonders, violent criminals,
45:38
Speaker 11: and a man who paralyzed a toddler, so not particularly
45:41
Speaker 11: nice people. The latest thing is that we interviewed one
45:44
Speaker 11: of them as they were leaving the prison gates. Surprise, surprise,
45:47
Speaker 11: he said he's now a lifelong labor voter, so I
45:49
Speaker 11: suppose they've picked up a few votes as a results
45:51
Speaker 11: of this. There are issues about where we house some
45:53
Speaker 11: of these people now, and our London mayor, also a
45:55
Speaker 11: labor politician, has come out today and said he thinks
45:58
Speaker 11: prisoners should skip the housing Q to give them somewhere
46:02
Speaker 11: to live. It is absolute madness over here at the moment.
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Speaker 1: It seems to me very very strange. Patrick Christy is
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Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Thanks for your time.
46:15
Speaker 1: You know we're we're talking earlier about tenure pivacy of
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Speaker 1: the environment. Missis the've got whole government really with its
46:23
Speaker 1: nature positive plans, all this global warming restrictions that they've
46:27
Speaker 1: got in mind, net zero, all that kind of stuff,
46:30
Speaker 1: all coming at enormous costs to make almost no difference
46:33
Speaker 1: to the climate anyway. Because we're so small, and you
46:36
Speaker 1: wonder the world's biggest sission mittter by far is China.
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Speaker 1: They don't have the same net zero goals that we do.
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Speaker 1: They've been allowed to increase their emissions. And why because
46:47
Speaker 1: there's supposedly a developing country and the theory is that
46:52
Speaker 1: the West have had their emissions, we have to cut
46:55
Speaker 1: ours while they catch up and get richer. And I'm
46:58
Speaker 1: just thinking, is it that it doesn't that strike you
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Speaker 1: as insane? For this reason, in particular among the leaverside
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Speaker 1: the fact that China is already the world's biggest omitter
47:09
Speaker 1: and exploding in emissions. Why do we want to help
47:15
Speaker 1: a dictatorship like China with the world's biggest thing, in
47:18
Speaker 1: the world's biggest military build up, a tyranny threatening us,
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Speaker 1: threatening war? Why do we want to help them get
47:26
Speaker 1: even stronger relative to us? Does that make sense to you?
47:31
Speaker 1: It's insane. Now mentioned briefly before a couple of weeks
47:36
Speaker 1: ago my book of the Week, the book of the week,
47:39
Speaker 1: but I had almost only time five seconds. Book of
47:42
Speaker 1: the Week Patrick O'Brien's series of novels, twenty of them,
47:46
Speaker 1: starting with Master and Commander. In fact, the Russell Crowe
47:50
Speaker 1: did a film. It was his breakthrough film on Master
47:53
Speaker 1: and commander on the first couple of books actually in
47:56
Speaker 1: the series was great for him. Do you know why?
47:59
Speaker 1: I recommend that it's about a couple of sailors, in
48:03
Speaker 1: particular Captain and his deputy in the Napoleonic Wars in
48:11
Speaker 1: the ships, you know, Admiral Nelson and all that sense
48:15
Speaker 1: of duty, sense of honor, that you could fight for
48:17
Speaker 1: your country and be cultured that playing the violin and
48:21
Speaker 1: all that that idea of a dignity and a deeper
48:25
Speaker 1: spiritual world. Boy, do we need that with his rat
48:29
Speaker 1: bags on the streets and all that tremendous stuff. So
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Speaker 1: I recommend you go to the Robinson's bookshop. You'll see
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Speaker 1: my tips and on the left. Go there, buy it
48:38
Speaker 1: and enjoy hours and hours of reading. That's it from
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Speaker 1: me now, Sherry Martson, good night.