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Catherine Duncan · Postcards to the Universe

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria. Do
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Speaker 1: you believe in magic? What if you were told that
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Speaker 1: all you had to do was get a little creative
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Speaker 1: and work a magic spell to bring anything you can
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Speaker 1: imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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Speaker 1: Here is your host, Melissa Caprill.
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Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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Speaker 2: Melissa creating Life you Crave. It is Wednesday. How's everybody doing.
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Speaker 2: It's my favorite day of the week. I love doing
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Speaker 2: this show. I always have the most amazing guests, so
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Speaker 2: that makes me really happy. And today is know different
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Speaker 2: because I have author Catherine Duncan on my show and
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Speaker 2: we're going to be talking a lot about her book,
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Speaker 2: Every Day Awakening, Five Practices for living fully, feeling deeply
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Speaker 2: and coming into your heart and soul. And she is
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Speaker 2: going to join me in just a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 2: And actually, I think Catherine is great to be talking
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Speaker 2: to today because I hope everybody is, you know, handling
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Speaker 2: the world right now. Okay, it's crazy. I know there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of craziness. There's a lot of fear. There's
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Speaker 2: a lot of anxiety. Nobody knows, you know, change is scary,
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Speaker 2: nobody knows what's happening. So having practices for ourselves right now,
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Speaker 2: I think is very good. It's good for us to
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Speaker 2: keep ourselves calm, and it's also very empowering. I think
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Speaker 2: when you have a practice in your own life that
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Speaker 2: keeps you centered and calm.
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Speaker 3: And I know that.
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Speaker 2: I started getting serious about meditating, and I do like
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Speaker 2: a visual meditation. That's the way that I do it
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Speaker 2: every morning, and i'd say probably about eight months now,
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Speaker 2: and not every morning. It's easy because sometimes my mind races,
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Speaker 2: but I've gotten so good at practicing. It's really helped
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Speaker 2: keep me calm in all the craziness of course, right
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Speaker 2: so she's going to be very very helpful.
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Speaker 3: So before I bring her out, just a couple.
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Speaker 2: Of things for those who are in South Florida and
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Speaker 2: came to our event on I've been talking about the
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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. On Friday, our art event, we
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Speaker 2: had over two hundred people here. It was amazing. I
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Speaker 2: just want to say thank you for coming. It was
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Speaker 2: so great to be in the world of the creatives
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Speaker 2: and talking about art and philosophy and music and creativity.
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Speaker 2: It was just so wonderful. So thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for that. And if you're new to my show, I
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Speaker 2: just want to say welcome. I'm going to tell you
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Speaker 2: a little bit about me. I'm an artist, I'm a photographer,
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Speaker 2: and I have a book titled Postcards to the Universe,
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Speaker 2: Harnessed the Univers's power and manifest Your Dreams. And I
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Speaker 2: had nine of photographs in the exhibit of people's manifesting
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Speaker 2: postcards that I photographed, and there's thirty of those in
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Speaker 2: my book. And those people who created the postcards that
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Speaker 2: are in my book, when they're manifestation, whatever they wanted
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Speaker 2: to attract into their life showed up in the reality.
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Speaker 2: I shared their story. So that, in a short summary,
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Speaker 2: is what Postcards is about. And it's just been amazing
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Speaker 2: doing the project. And I am incredibly great full for
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Speaker 2: everybody who sends me manifesting postcards, and right now, yeah,
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Speaker 2: send one. What is it that you want to bring
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Speaker 2: what do you what does your life look like, What
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Speaker 2: is it that you want to bring into your life
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Speaker 2: in the next five years or ten years, Create a
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Speaker 2: postcard around it. Because tapping into our creativity really brings joy,
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Speaker 2: I have to say, and it gets us out of
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Speaker 2: our thinking mind into our feeling body and an intention.
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Speaker 2: So if you want to know how to do that,
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Speaker 2: you can reach out to me and I can help you.
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Speaker 2: Or you can go to Postcards to Universe dot com
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Speaker 2: and there's a section that tells you how to create
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Speaker 2: a manifesting postcard and the address where to send it.
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Speaker 2: So please do it. There are a lot of fun
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Speaker 2: to make. And also if you're just joining me for
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Speaker 2: the first time, you can listen to any.
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Speaker 3: Of our shows.
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Speaker 2: There's always a description in the show of the guests
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Speaker 2: that I have and what we're going to be talking about,
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Speaker 2: and you can find that on own times in the archives,
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Speaker 2: you can find it on Postcards to the Universe dot
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Speaker 2: of your favorite podcasting platforms. So I hope you come
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Speaker 2: back in listen to more shows. But let me get
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Speaker 2: to today's amazing guests.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 2: Katherine Duncan is an integrative spiritual consultant and a first
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Speaker 2: time author Congratulations her new book, every Day Awakening, Five
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Speaker 2: Practices for Living fully, feeling deeply, and coming into your
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Speaker 2: Heart and Soul was released in July twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: After two near death experiences, Catherine left a lucrative corporate
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Speaker 2: job with Time Magazine to study theology and become a
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Speaker 2: chaplain at a Level one trauma hospital and later a
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Speaker 2: hospice chaplain, accompanying thousands of people at the end of life. Today,
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Speaker 2: Catherine runs a private practice, counseling attorneys, doctors, business executives,
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Speaker 2: and people searching for more. She helps people open into
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Speaker 2: their true nature and live from their heart and soul
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Speaker 2: every day. Awakening shares gleanings from Catherine's personal life, client work,
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Speaker 2: and most importantly, what it means to be fully alive.
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Speaker 2: Her book endorsed by mel Robbins is and this is
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Speaker 2: what Mel said about her book, Your Roadmap for Living
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Speaker 2: a fully Engaged Life, And if you want to find
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Speaker 2: out more about her, you can go to her website.
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Speaker 2: Katherine Duncan dot organ. I'm gonna spell it since we're
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Speaker 2: on radio. It's Katherine with A C C A T
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Speaker 2: h E R I N E Duncan d U n
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Speaker 2: c A n dot org.
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Speaker 3: Welcome Katherine, Thanks so much for being here with me today.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. Melissa great to meet you today.
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Speaker 2: Great to meet you too, And I think we could
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Speaker 2: really use your wisdom right about now because the world
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Speaker 2: is just in chaos, as you know, and people are
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Speaker 2: very fearful and scared, and and you know, you have
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Speaker 2: a perspective that many of us don't have, where you've
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Speaker 2: gone through two I only thought it was one, but
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Speaker 2: it was two near death experiences. So you've you've seen
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Speaker 2: things that maybe we haven't seen. And you also are
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Speaker 2: working with people who you will have worked with people who.
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Speaker 3: Are in hospice.
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Speaker 2: So share with us how you got into the work
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Speaker 2: that you're doing, what happened to you, and you know
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Speaker 2: some of your thoughts right now about what's going on.
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Speaker 4: I agree with you that there is a lot of
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Speaker 4: chaos in the world. I hear it every week, almost
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Speaker 4: just about every day, and my private pastures. Yeah, chaos
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Speaker 4: just regulation and I think it's really takes strength and
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Speaker 4: courage and how can I stay grounded amidst the chaos
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Speaker 4: in the world. It would be it's so easy to
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Speaker 4: tune into that energy. You know, everything is energy, and
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Speaker 4: if you fail into the energy around that's really chaotic,
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Speaker 4: and then we become chaotic. It doesn't help us. In fact,
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Speaker 4: it's really a deterrent and physically, emotionally, spiritually, so it
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Speaker 4: takes a lot of consciousness and mindfulness to amiss what's
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Speaker 4: happening in the world. How can I stay grounded and
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Speaker 4: find my breathing room and my balance and be, you know,
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Speaker 4: a light in the world. I mean, the more we
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Speaker 4: can be grounded, the more it really truly does impact
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Speaker 4: everyone around us, our friends, our family, and but it's
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Speaker 4: a choice. It's a conscious choice. So again, thank you
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Speaker 4: for having me on My book, every Day Awakening, I
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Speaker 4: would say as a calling ies published in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 4: I actually had a vision of my book ten years
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Speaker 4: prior that, and I told my family kids then teenagers
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Speaker 4: and husband, I see him when I write a book,
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Speaker 4: and they also had a great mom Yeah, right and right.
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Speaker 4: And then when the pandemic hit and my whole entire
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Speaker 4: private practice went online, I also had time and space
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Speaker 4: and I sat down and I started typing at night
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Speaker 4: and on my computer and I couldn't stop. It just
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Speaker 4: poured out in me. And yeah, my book is all
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Speaker 4: about what does it mean to be fully alive right now?
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Speaker 4: And it comes out of personally facing my own death.
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Speaker 4: Being with thousands of people as they died as a chaplain.
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Speaker 4: And my big message is, you know, you don't have
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Speaker 4: to wait until you at the end of your life
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Speaker 4: or facing death or upheaval. You can choose right now
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Speaker 4: to feel into your heart, your soul, that deep peace
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Speaker 4: that's within us. And it takes a consciousness, a choice,
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Speaker 4: and a practice for every one of us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you said the word practice because it
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Speaker 2: is a practice.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: It's so easy to go down the rabbit hole of
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Speaker 2: anger and fear, and that's not And I want to
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Speaker 2: be clear, and I'm I'm sure you probably agree with me.
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Speaker 3: It's not taking away from.
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Speaker 2: The realities of what's happening to some people, right people
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Speaker 2: who are losing their jobs, or people who are losing
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Speaker 2: their homes or losing their healthcare or losing whatever they're losing.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to be like
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Speaker 2: you know, like that, let's not look at what's dark
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Speaker 2: and only look at the light. No, I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: that at all, because that's real if that's affecting you.
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Speaker 3: But but having a practice that.
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Speaker 2: Can keep us stay centered in the midst of the chaos,
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Speaker 2: I think is really important, would you agree?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, And it is easy and I find this
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Speaker 4: with many many people I've met and in life that
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Speaker 4: it's it's so easy to live in our mind, to
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Speaker 4: live an autopilot where our mind just runs us. I mean,
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Speaker 4: we typically have gosh, seventy thousand plus spots a day,
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Speaker 4: and every one of us, you know, listening right now,
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Speaker 4: we know we can watch our thoughts, we can watch
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Speaker 4: our feeling. We're not our thought, We're not our feeling.
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Speaker 4: But again, that practice comes in of like, okay, how
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Speaker 4: can I experience for a minute or two, my mind
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Speaker 4: slows down, I come in to just feel my body,
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Speaker 4: feel my breast, and that's where the piece is. And
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Speaker 4: it does take consciousness of practice to experience that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, before your if you wouldn't mind sharing with
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Speaker 2: us what happened to you with your near death experience
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Speaker 2: and did it change you, like so significantly that this
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Speaker 2: is the work that you wanted to do after you
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Speaker 2: had that?
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Speaker 3: Were you a different kind of a person before that?
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Speaker 3: Were you a what is it? Type a personality?
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Speaker 2: You know, always working, always thinking about work, corporate and
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, my life cracked open at eleven years old.
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Speaker 4: That was my first experience of facing into death. I
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Speaker 4: at I was ten, I just turned eleven. I was
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Speaker 4: suddenly gravely ill. My family, my parents, they took me
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Speaker 4: to the hospital. I was diagnosed with a really rare
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Speaker 4: childhood cancer. My parents were told when I was eleven,
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Speaker 4: they didn't tell me because I was so little, but
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Speaker 4: that I had a twenty percent chance to survive. I
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Speaker 4: started going through really intensive treatment, chemotherapy, radiation, surgeries. It
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Speaker 4: was a lot. And this is in the seventies. And
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you back in the seventies at our leading hospital,
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Speaker 4: University of Minnesota here, they had no program, they had nothing.
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Speaker 4: No one talked to me about what was happening to me.
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Speaker 4: And my parents. I felt their love, but they didn't
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Speaker 4: say a word. They just that's my family background. They
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Speaker 4: don't talk feelings, emotions. And I quickly could feel that
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Speaker 4: I was between life and death. I was walking on
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Speaker 4: a tightrope. It was. It was just a horror show.
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Speaker 4: It was extremely scary. Back in the seventies, they did
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Speaker 4: a lot of amputation. You know, I would sit in
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Speaker 4: the waiting room at the UFM hospital waiting to get
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Speaker 4: chemo therapy, and you know, everyone like no arms and
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Speaker 4: no legs, screaming, crying. It was just like, oh it
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Speaker 4: was rough. And I all of a sudden with that
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Speaker 4: feeling of like am I going to live? Am I not?
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Speaker 4: I just what came to me is to start to
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Speaker 4: pray and faith meant nothing. My family intermittently went to
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Speaker 4: a Lutheran church, never talked feelings, prayer, faith, nothing. But
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Speaker 4: I just started to pray, like to the universe, like praying,
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Speaker 4: could I please live? Was? Could I live to be twenty?
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Speaker 4: I kept praying and praying, and not long after, all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, this feeling of just peace flooded my body.
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Speaker 4: It just flood in my body. It took my breath away,
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Speaker 4: and it was just annoying came through me at such
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Speaker 4: a young age that I was going to live. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I just I wasn't alone. This feeling of something greater
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Speaker 4: was with me and has been with me to this day.
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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you the year I got sick. This
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Speaker 4: drug came over from Turkey randomly being given to patients.
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Speaker 4: My father, being a businessman, met the doctor several times,
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Speaker 4: as I've heard from my mom since my dad's bron
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Speaker 4: for years now, and he demanded they gave me this drug.
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Speaker 4: They finally did, and that drug is standard treatment for
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Speaker 4: what I had. Survival rate is now like eighty percent
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Speaker 4: for what I had because of this drug from Turkey,
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Speaker 4: and it was just yeah, So I you know, I survived.
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Speaker 4: I went through all that. I lived a pretty normal,
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Speaker 4: you know, teenage years. I went to college. Out of college,
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Speaker 4: my whole family have a lot of siblings, all of
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Speaker 4: them in the business world. So I went into the
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Speaker 4: business world and I was in advertising, and then I
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Speaker 4: joined Time Magazine. I was selling the regional lands for
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Speaker 4: Time Magazine several Time Magazine publications. And the second which
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Speaker 4: was I would say a near death experience, happened in
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Speaker 4: my middle thirties when I was on a Timing corporate
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Speaker 4: trip Whitewater Rafting and it was for like the top
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Speaker 4: sales executives that year, and it was just a life
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Speaker 4: changing experience. We were on a raft treacherous waters level three,
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Speaker 4: level four. The head of our raft was the head
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Speaker 4: of supposedly, you said, the Costa Rica Olympic team. He
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Speaker 4: was crazy, so instead of going around the rapids, he
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Speaker 4: went straight down. I was in the corner with life
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Speaker 4: vest and best life, you know, preserver's best, everything in
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Speaker 4: the helmet, and I just didn't have the weight to
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Speaker 4: hold the boat. And next thing you know, I was
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Speaker 4: thrown off. I was plunged deep underwater, and I was
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Speaker 4: like a curl up in a ball, and I was like,
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Speaker 4: this is it. I'm going to die. And images of
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Speaker 4: my kids came to me, Images of my childhood, you know,
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Speaker 4: in the hospital, came to me. And then all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden, this white light came around my entire body
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Speaker 4: and this voice said living or dying is fine, and
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Speaker 4: this and this peace came into me, almost like godd
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Speaker 4: as a child. I didn't know if I was going
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Speaker 4: to live or die, but I just I like, I
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Speaker 4: let go, and I think I just I uncurled my body.
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Speaker 4: I came out from under a rapid. They pulled me
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Speaker 4: onto a boat. I survived. I was in shock. I
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Speaker 4: couldn't talk. Wow. We had to finish down the rapids
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Speaker 4: to get out. And then I'll tell you was in
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Speaker 4: what a day. Two days later, I was home, coming
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Speaker 4: back to Minneapolis. I was in a taxi and I
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Speaker 4: decided to call my mom to tell her I'm home.
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Speaker 4: My mom, I'd say, religious, not spiritual, really more religious
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Speaker 4: and never in her life shared a dream or has instance.
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Speaker 4: And I didn't know her before I even told her
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Speaker 4: what happened. She's like, Catherine, I dreamed that I slipped
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Speaker 4: into a river and I almost drowned, and then I
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Speaker 4: woke up And that was the day that this happened
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Speaker 4: to me. Wow, And it was just a turning point.
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Speaker 4: I just I had this really successful, lucrative job with
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Speaker 4: Time magazine, and I was like, this isn't it. I
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Speaker 4: was just feeling in my heart like this isn't it.
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Speaker 4: And then within two weeks I gave my notice. My
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Speaker 4: luckily my husband was supportive, and I thought, I need
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Speaker 4: to listen. I need to like meditate, breathe, journal like
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Speaker 4: who am I? Why am I here? Where am I?
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Speaker 4: What am I being called to do? And that's when
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Speaker 4: I quit and I got some odd jobs for money.
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Speaker 4: And within a few months, all of a sudden, a
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Speaker 4: girlfriend said, theology spiritual direction, Like every step to this
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Speaker 4: day has unfolded by listening.
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Speaker 2: So interesting. Did you see your body? Did you have
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Speaker 2: it in that? I know some people actually leave their body?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I you know, for me, it was this
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Speaker 4: radiant white light just took throughout my whole around me,
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Speaker 4: within me, it was just like whoa. And then this
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Speaker 4: incredible sense feeling of peace just poured into me. And
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Speaker 4: this voice was so loud, so loud, it just it
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Speaker 4: was just like literally the words living or dying is fine.
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Speaker 4: It was just like this peace, like no matter what,
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Speaker 4: it's going to be okay, wow wow.
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Speaker 2: Well I've heard this from other people who have had experiences,
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Speaker 2: who have said that we have exit points throughout our
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Speaker 2: life that we can choose to go stay, And I
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Speaker 2: always thought that was kind of interesting. And most of
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Speaker 2: the time we don't even know where it's an exit point,
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Speaker 2: like we could be you know, out of light and
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Speaker 2: the light, you know, a car runs through the light
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Speaker 2: and we you know, something falls and you lean down
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Speaker 2: to pick it up in a truck. Because that happened
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Speaker 2: to me, That's why I'm saying that eighteen wheeler went
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Speaker 2: through a light and if if, what if the little
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Speaker 2: it was an angel clip by the way, if it
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Speaker 2: did my visor, I would have gone and I would
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Speaker 2: have gotten smacked by an eighteen wheeler.
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Speaker 3: But so that's maybe one of my exit points. I
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Speaker 3: just didn't know, you know.
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Speaker 4: Right, No, I agree with you. I think we are
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Speaker 4: given exit points. I think I've been given to so far.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And You're like, no, I have
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Speaker 2: a book to write and I have to.
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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. It's like, be careful what you pray,
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Speaker 4: because I remember it in my twenties. I mean, I've
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Speaker 4: experienced a lot of life. Yes, I like life, but
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Speaker 4: I kind of thought, you know, bring it on. I
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Speaker 4: this is in my lifetime. I don't want to come back.
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Speaker 4: And I literally even put that out in prayer the universe,
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Speaker 4: like bring it on. And then we had several family
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Speaker 4: members and my family die, and then my husband had
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Speaker 4: this horrific heart condition that he did flatline nine years ago.
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Speaker 4: And after he got through it, which was amazing, I
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Speaker 4: was working as a hospice chaplain and I remember I
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Speaker 4: was driving to see a patient and I remember that prayer,
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Speaker 4: you know, bring it on, and I literally pulled the
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Speaker 4: car over, and I'm like, haha, just kidding, you know.
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Speaker 3: I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, seriously, I was just like, I'm really happy
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Speaker 4: to come back another lifetime. We're all good.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, so, oh my god.
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Speaker 2: I know, right, because it cause we don't realize, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think when we're in spirit and we look down
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Speaker 2: and if we live for eternity, which you know, our
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Speaker 2: soul is eternal.
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Speaker 3: You know, one.
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Speaker 2: Life is like a blink, right It just Oh, I
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Speaker 2: can handle all that. And then you're here and you're like,
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Speaker 2: what was I thinking?
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Speaker 3: What was I thinking? Hard?
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Speaker 4: So be careful what you pray for. And then I
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Speaker 4: was like, we're really happy. A few more lifetimes, we're good.
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Speaker 2: So for people who are like right now, are struggling, like,
21:31
Speaker 2: what kind of practices can we incorporate in our daily
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Speaker 2: lives that can help us feel more grounded, can open
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Speaker 2: up our heart and find more love and joy?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my book Every Day Awakening, I these five practices
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Speaker 4: that I have five practices for living fully, feeling deeply,
21:55
Speaker 4: coming into your heart and soul. These are practices that
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Speaker 4: I've learned since a very young person and have been organically.
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Speaker 4: I've lived them, and so I'll share. The five practices
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Speaker 4: are the first one, come back to the present moment,
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Speaker 4: come back to just being here and now. Then that
22:12
Speaker 4: leads into connecting with something greater. I've worked with people
22:16
Speaker 4: of all faced, no face, just like, what is that
22:19
Speaker 4: for you? Even if energy true nature? What is that
22:22
Speaker 4: the third is grow your trust than embody love, and
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Speaker 4: hold openness. So just starting with come back to the
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Speaker 4: present moment, like we started to talk about at the
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Speaker 4: very beginning. I mean, it's you know, life is in
22:36
Speaker 4: this moment when we're in our heart. I think our
22:39
Speaker 4: heart is a doorway to our soul. It's feeling into that.
22:43
Speaker 4: It's not in our ego mind, our fast shattering ego
22:46
Speaker 4: mind that go go, go, go go. When we're in
22:48
Speaker 4: our mind, you know we're in the past, the future,
22:51
Speaker 4: we're not even here. And it really does take a
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Speaker 4: practice a consciousness to justs of mindfulness, moments of just
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Speaker 4: feeling your breath, your senses to bring you into the
23:05
Speaker 4: moment where it's like, oh, your mindfuls down all of
23:08
Speaker 4: a sudden, there's some peace, some breathing room. That's where
23:12
Speaker 4: life is. That's what people are searching for. People are
23:16
Speaker 4: searching for more, searching for ease and breathing from the peace.
23:19
Speaker 4: And it's not found in our mind. No.
23:23
Speaker 2: And if anybody listening knows this, what happens when we
23:27
Speaker 2: start to think of worst case scenario, we're not present,
23:30
Speaker 2: we're over there, we're in the future, and we're imagining
23:34
Speaker 2: worst case scenario happening in our life, and then that
23:37
Speaker 2: just takes us, like you know, to a level of anger, anxiety, fear, sadness,
23:44
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But meanwhile, in the moment, you're okay,
23:49
Speaker 2: Like right in the moment, you're all right. You can
23:52
Speaker 2: just take a breath. It is a practice. You have
23:54
Speaker 2: to snap yourself and remind yourself, come back to present,
23:58
Speaker 2: come back here, come back here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: And when we get yeah, go ahead, when we get
24:04
Speaker 4: when we get in a you know, worry, every one
24:07
Speaker 4: of us me too, right, you get in a worry,
24:10
Speaker 4: a thought, an anxious a fearful thought, and then you
24:13
Speaker 4: keep going. Well, we can turn on the stress response
24:16
Speaker 4: by thought alone, so we all of a sudden are
24:18
Speaker 4: worried or anxious. Then that turns on the chemical response
24:22
Speaker 4: in our body cortisol, our emotion, and we get very
24:25
Speaker 4: quickly we can get into what called a limbic loop
24:28
Speaker 4: where we're just caught in this cycle in our brain,
24:33
Speaker 4: and these pathways, these neural pathways in our brain are
24:36
Speaker 4: getting stronger and stronger and stronger, this fear loop, this
24:39
Speaker 4: worry loop. And there is there's a whole science which
24:42
Speaker 4: is fascinating called neuroplasticity, how we can rewire our brain
24:47
Speaker 4: to the positive. And I've studied it, I'm certified, And
24:50
Speaker 4: it's just it's so interesting every one of us right
24:52
Speaker 4: now losing we can reshape our brain and you know,
24:57
Speaker 4: to the moment we die.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just what It's just things that you have
25:02
Speaker 2: to do every day. Okay, so you told us the
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Speaker 2: first three, So then what's four and five?
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Speaker 4: So the practices in my book come back to the
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Speaker 4: present moment. Connect with something greater, grow your trust, and
25:16
Speaker 4: then embody love and hold openness and you know, embodying love.
25:22
Speaker 4: I just just love. I think that's the reason we're
25:25
Speaker 4: here on this earth is how we every one of
25:28
Speaker 4: us can learn to love. And I think how we
25:31
Speaker 4: differentiate ourselves is our ability to love. And I think
25:34
Speaker 4: what we take with us when we die. And I've
25:36
Speaker 4: had many examples being with people when they died, this
25:40
Speaker 4: love that radiates the room and you can feel it
25:43
Speaker 4: leave when they leave. It just I think what we
25:46
Speaker 4: take with us is our ability to love. I think
25:48
Speaker 4: that's why we're here on this earth.
25:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I imagine a lot of the conversations you're
25:54
Speaker 2: having with people that are end of their life. Are
25:56
Speaker 2: not talking about Oh I wish I spent more time
25:59
Speaker 2: at you know, xizy job. They may be thinking, I
26:01
Speaker 2: wish I forgave somebody. I wish I can reconnect it
26:06
Speaker 2: with somebody. I wish I didn't treat somebody a certain
26:09
Speaker 2: way right, probably with a lot of our regrets are
26:13
Speaker 2: at the end of our life, because it's.
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Speaker 4: The number one theme, number one theme with people dying
26:18
Speaker 4: bar none was just love. All they wanted people when
26:21
Speaker 4: they were in a life is love. That's a.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah makes sense. Oh oh, I just looked at
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Speaker 2: the time. I can't believe we're already at the halftime. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's take Let's take our break here and we'll be
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29:19
Speaker 2: her latest book, Every Day Awakening, Five Practices for living fully,
29:23
Speaker 2: feeling deeply, and coming into your heart and soul. So, Catherine,
29:28
Speaker 2: during the break, I was thinking about what you said
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Speaker 4: I'm not. I was. I worked at our Level one
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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you were talking, she was saying before
29:50
Speaker 2: the break about how at the end of people's lives,
29:53
Speaker 2: with the thousands of people she was with and counsel
29:57
Speaker 2: at the end of their life, that it was all
29:59
Speaker 2: about love.
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Speaker 3: The love we gave, the love maybe we held back.
30:05
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I mean it's it's that's what it
30:09
Speaker 2: all comes as down to.
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Speaker 3: That must have been very profound for you.
30:16
Speaker 4: Uh it was. It was let's say the word magical.
30:20
Speaker 4: I mean that I got to be so privileged to
30:24
Speaker 4: be with people in such a sacred time when people
30:29
Speaker 4: were leaving, you know, facing their death and leaving their body.
30:33
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, as far as I'm concerned that death
30:37
Speaker 4: is not an end, I witnessed just way too much
30:41
Speaker 4: and saw too much. I'm also a mystic and I'm
30:44
Speaker 4: an intuitive And within a week or so of many
30:49
Speaker 4: people that died that I was with, they would actually
30:51
Speaker 4: come back and see me in the middle of the night.
30:55
Speaker 4: I would open my eyes and, like you, at first,
30:57
Speaker 4: it was like whoa, But then I realized, you know, quickly,
31:01
Speaker 4: what it was. It was just this outline, often like
31:04
Speaker 4: in a blue color spirit of a person next to me, nodding,
31:08
Speaker 4: and then they'd be gone, and and I actually had
31:12
Speaker 4: to put up energy boundaries, like you can't come within
31:15
Speaker 4: twenty feet and wake me up. After a while, it
31:17
Speaker 4: was just like too much. But it's sacred. It's a transformation.
31:24
Speaker 4: Our spirit goes on, you know, our our body, our ego,
31:29
Speaker 4: mind dies, but our spirit is eternal. Yeah.
31:33
Speaker 3: So have you gotten some.
31:37
Speaker 2: Wisdom or information about the other side from some of
31:42
Speaker 2: the people that you've you've worked with.
31:46
Speaker 4: You know? Not really? I mean, can I tell you
31:49
Speaker 4: what happens to the other side? Not really. I just
31:52
Speaker 4: that hasn't been a passion of focus for me. What
31:56
Speaker 4: it has told me is that again we are eternal.
32:00
Speaker 4: Our spirit, soul is eternal, forevermore and transformed. I also
32:06
Speaker 4: experienced when people were dying how to cease loved ones angels.
32:10
Speaker 4: I could see different people in the room would come,
32:14
Speaker 4: some people would talk to them, some not, and would
32:17
Speaker 4: help them on their journeys. So even in the dying process,
32:21
Speaker 4: I witnessed how people are not alone between loved ones,
32:26
Speaker 4: the angels, God, They're there to help them make the transition.
32:29
Speaker 4: It's really beautiful.
32:32
Speaker 2: That is beautiful your I've heard that from many people
32:36
Speaker 2: who do what you do, or are connected or channels
32:41
Speaker 2: can talk to the other side have said the same thing,
32:44
Speaker 2: and I believe it.
32:46
Speaker 3: I've always believed.
32:47
Speaker 2: It since I was little, so I don't really struggle
32:51
Speaker 2: with the face of the other side, but I know
32:53
Speaker 2: some people who do so to me, I feel like
32:56
Speaker 2: that's very comforting, right, And I really think we all
32:59
Speaker 2: have this gift. It's just some of us are more
33:03
Speaker 2: tuned in and tapped in than others. I think some
33:06
Speaker 2: of us are just more closed off, maybe because of
33:09
Speaker 2: our our you know, what's going on in our own lives,
33:12
Speaker 2: our experiences, our own trauma, you know, so it closes
33:16
Speaker 2: us off.
33:17
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. And I think just being open, being open
33:22
Speaker 4: to what's possible, being open physically, emotionally, spiritually. There's so
33:28
Speaker 4: much about feeling into the magicalness of life right now.
33:33
Speaker 4: When you're open, when you're present, when you're noticing, there's
33:37
Speaker 4: so much and there's so much guidance that every single
33:40
Speaker 4: one of us receives, and every one of us, everyone
33:43
Speaker 4: listening right now, we have gifts. When we're in the
33:46
Speaker 4: present moment, there's a stillness. If it's hearing the words clairvoyance, clare, audience, cleresension,
33:52
Speaker 4: maybe it's a sense of hearing seeing, sensing, feeling. It's there,
33:57
Speaker 4: but it's not when we're in our sinking mind.
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Speaker 3: That's for sure.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely not when we're in our worrying mind. Yeah,
34:05
Speaker 2: in our past mind going over a situation or something
34:08
Speaker 2: that happened, like mad about or whatever.
34:12
Speaker 3: You know, it's definitely not there.
34:15
Speaker 2: You talk about how to live a multi dimensional life,
34:20
Speaker 2: what do you mean by that?
34:21
Speaker 3: Like, how can we do that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we need to use our mind when of
34:28
Speaker 4: course working, planning, organizing a trip, or organizing, you know,
34:34
Speaker 4: a birthday party next week. I mean, we need to
34:36
Speaker 4: use our mind, but I think we can using our
34:41
Speaker 4: mind still have that deep steeped sense of presence that's there. Still,
34:47
Speaker 4: it's present in the background, even though we're using our mind.
34:50
Speaker 4: That's what I mean by multi dimensionally. You know, even
34:54
Speaker 4: right now while I'm talking to you. You know, I'm
34:57
Speaker 4: talking to you, you're asking questions, I'm thinking, but I
35:00
Speaker 4: feel really grounded, steeped, groundedness in the moment and I
35:06
Speaker 4: look up and you know, I see spirits every day.
35:09
Speaker 4: So it's like, I think we can live on all
35:10
Speaker 4: these different levels at the same time, multi dimensionally.
35:15
Speaker 2: So what would you tell somebody who's listening, maybe some
35:21
Speaker 2: simple like a practice they can do you grounds. So
35:27
Speaker 2: my question is do you like go outside? Because I've
35:29
Speaker 2: heard a lot about grounding. I know a lot of
35:31
Speaker 2: people think that grounding has helped them so much, Like
35:34
Speaker 2: what's your daily practice to keep you grounded, to keep.
35:38
Speaker 3: You centered, to keep you open? That maybe somebody listening
35:42
Speaker 3: right now.
35:42
Speaker 2: Could be like, you know, I can add that little
35:45
Speaker 2: thing to my daily life. You know, it's not going
35:48
Speaker 2: to require me to go so far out of my
35:50
Speaker 2: comfort zone because like anything else, it's a step, you take,
35:53
Speaker 2: baby steps right to as we're as we're moving and growing.
35:58
Speaker 4: And in my book, I have forty two exercises how
36:03
Speaker 4: to film our present, how to feel our love more
36:06
Speaker 4: flow and if it's somatic body movements or toning using
36:10
Speaker 4: your voice or your breath. I'll just share in the
36:14
Speaker 4: moment a couple of my go to favorites. And the
36:18
Speaker 4: first is and this is this is again a consciousness,
36:21
Speaker 4: a choice, a practice. How do you start your day?
36:25
Speaker 4: When you wake up in the morning, So you wake up,
36:28
Speaker 4: maybe it's an alarm, maybe just wake up, And it's
36:32
Speaker 4: really powerful how we even start our day. If you
36:35
Speaker 4: start your day, you wake up. Let's say you grab
36:38
Speaker 4: your phone or you start thinking about I have four
36:41
Speaker 4: appointments said, this is This is many people start their
36:45
Speaker 4: day and a stress response before they get out of bed.
36:48
Speaker 4: So I've done this for years. When I wake up
36:52
Speaker 4: in the morning, no matter what, even if I have
36:55
Speaker 4: a jam packed day, I have a few minutes in
36:58
Speaker 4: bed or I have gratitude thankfulness. And you hear a
37:03
Speaker 4: lot about oh, practice gratitude. So here's how I practice gratitude.
37:07
Speaker 4: I think, I use my mind and I think about, oh,
37:10
Speaker 4: my gosh, you know, I'm alive, I have a home,
37:13
Speaker 4: I'm a home, a bed, I have a family. I
37:15
Speaker 4: mean wow, friends. I think about it, but then I
37:20
Speaker 4: feel it. I feel thankfulness, I feel thankfulness love. These
37:25
Speaker 4: are the highest vibrational energies our body can hold. So
37:30
Speaker 4: I think about it, but then my focus is that feeling,
37:33
Speaker 4: feeling that energy moving in my body and I can
37:36
Speaker 4: feel it like a vibration moving up and down my body.
37:40
Speaker 4: And then I have a few minutes of prayer. I
37:43
Speaker 4: may even, you know, see the day and the flow
37:45
Speaker 4: of the day. I do this before I get out
37:47
Speaker 4: of bed. It sets the tone for my day. It
37:49
Speaker 4: really does It's really powerful. So that's one, you know
37:54
Speaker 4: exercises I like. Another one is, you know, just simply
37:58
Speaker 4: using your senses. So what do I mean by that?
38:03
Speaker 4: You know, maybe you go for a walk or you know,
38:08
Speaker 4: let's say you're outside and you just take a moment
38:11
Speaker 4: and just like what am I seeing?
38:14
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, then what am I? And that'll right to
38:18
Speaker 3: the present moment?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, sense I mean all those.
38:24
Speaker 4: Another one, a quick one that I really like, is practicing,
38:31
Speaker 4: you know, right now when I'm talking and everyone would listen,
38:34
Speaker 4: can you feel your hands, feel your hands, feel your fingers,
38:39
Speaker 4: whatever is there your fingers? Can you feel it? When
38:42
Speaker 4: you drop in to feel your hands, your fingers, your
38:45
Speaker 4: thinking mind stops. You can't do both at the same time.
38:50
Speaker 4: So just like what and I share this in my
38:53
Speaker 4: private practice when I work with people offering skills and tools,
38:57
Speaker 4: and every one of us is different. So what speaks
39:00
Speaker 4: to you? Is it a breast exercise, a meditation, practicing
39:03
Speaker 4: moments of mindfulness while you're drinking your coffee in the morning,
39:07
Speaker 4: or you know, self soothing, putting your hands on your chest.
39:12
Speaker 4: I love this over my heart area and just feeling
39:15
Speaker 4: the warmth of my hands calms my body and calming
39:19
Speaker 4: my nervous system, and adding you know, a loving kindness phrase,
39:23
Speaker 4: may I be at peace? Or if you believe in
39:25
Speaker 4: somebody beyond, give me peace. I mean, all these are
39:28
Speaker 4: just powerful. But I always say like, well, what speaks
39:32
Speaker 4: to you, what resonates with you? And try one or
39:34
Speaker 4: two practices and see how it feels.
39:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, and commit to it.
39:41
Speaker 2: I would say commit to it, like, don't do it
39:43
Speaker 2: once and then be like, oh, this doesn't work, like
39:47
Speaker 2: you have to you have to make it a commitment.
39:50
Speaker 2: And it could be something just very simple that only
39:53
Speaker 2: takes a few minutes out of your day, right.
39:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it takes you know, sixty six days typically
40:00
Speaker 4: to create a habit, but it is, it's you know.
40:03
Speaker 4: And I'll even say, you know, write it on a
40:06
Speaker 4: post it note and put it by your bed or
40:09
Speaker 4: in your bathroom and just try it every day for
40:13
Speaker 4: a week two weeks. Notice Notice how it feels. Notice
40:17
Speaker 4: you know, what is life giving? What is depleting? It's
40:20
Speaker 4: just awareness building that awareness.
40:23
Speaker 3: Muscle, building that awareness muscle.
40:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
40:27
Speaker 2: I want to go back to something you said about
40:29
Speaker 2: gratitude because I always I talk about gratitude a lot,
40:33
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people say, oh, I
40:37
Speaker 2: know I'm grateful for what I have, right, Oh, I know,
40:40
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for what I have, But there's something in
40:43
Speaker 2: the energy that's telling me, well, you're you are on
40:48
Speaker 2: one level, yes, of course you're grateful for what you have,
40:51
Speaker 2: but you're not really in gratitude, you know. It's almost like, well,
40:55
Speaker 2: of course I'm grateful for my house, and of course
40:58
Speaker 2: i'm grateful for I have food in my refrigerator, but
41:01
Speaker 2: we're not in the energy.
41:03
Speaker 3: Because you said you.
41:04
Speaker 2: Have to feel it, like you have to feel the
41:07
Speaker 2: actual gratitude. What can you tell us about how we
41:11
Speaker 2: can really tap into the feeling of gratitude and not
41:15
Speaker 2: just saying it, you know, because we could say it,
41:18
Speaker 2: but it's not.
41:21
Speaker 3: It's not they're not really in it, if you know
41:24
Speaker 3: what I mean.
41:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is interesting because there's been so much conversation
41:30
Speaker 4: and articles about gratitude, which is great, but a lot
41:34
Speaker 4: of them. I've noticed a lot what's out there in
41:37
Speaker 4: the world and out in the media and out in
41:39
Speaker 4: articles talks about thinking just what you said, thinking about gratitude,
41:45
Speaker 4: and that's great, but when you're just in your mind
41:47
Speaker 4: you're missing the power of gratitude, and so it's really
41:53
Speaker 4: about feeling it. So you think about starting with like, Okay,
41:58
Speaker 4: what am I grateful for? Grateful for family or friends
42:04
Speaker 4: or you know what comes to mind? For everyone listening,
42:06
Speaker 4: what are you grateful for? But then can you zero
42:10
Speaker 4: in and like, okay, so here's an example. I'm a
42:13
Speaker 4: huge ammal lover. I have two dogs, two Bashon's Bella
42:16
Speaker 4: and Allie. And I'll just even drop in, I know,
42:20
Speaker 4: and I'll I'll visualize Bella and all either these poofy
42:24
Speaker 4: white Vajons, and my heart starts to open and warm
42:29
Speaker 4: and soften. So even I do like a dog. Do
42:32
Speaker 4: you love a dog? A cat? You know, maybe it's
42:35
Speaker 4: a parent, maybe it's a best friend or a partner.
42:39
Speaker 4: What makes your heart soften? And just hold that vision
42:43
Speaker 4: and then feel it? Just see if you can drop
42:45
Speaker 4: in and feel it in your heart and marinate in that,
42:50
Speaker 4: growing the good, marinating in that. And I you know,
42:54
Speaker 4: for me, even just saying thank you, beg you, and
42:57
Speaker 4: I love you, and I start to feel love and
43:01
Speaker 4: I just I start to feel that sensation. And for
43:04
Speaker 4: everyone losening, just notice what does that feel? Like it
43:07
Speaker 4: might be a little tingly, it might be like a
43:09
Speaker 4: little softening. Just notice, notice what's there.
43:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
43:14
Speaker 2: And using animals is good for animal lovers because everybody
43:19
Speaker 2: who loves animals knows that feeling when you're like on
43:22
Speaker 2: your bed or on your couch and your dog or
43:25
Speaker 2: your cats next to you and they're so cute and
43:27
Speaker 2: you just look at their face and you grab them
43:28
Speaker 2: and you give them a big old kiss and you're
43:30
Speaker 2: like kissing all over them.
43:32
Speaker 3: That's when you're in gratitude. That feeling. That's the feeling
43:37
Speaker 3: so exactly.
43:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you squeeze their little face and you
43:41
Speaker 2: talk to them in the funny voice and you're like, oh,
43:44
Speaker 2: I just left you so much, and you know that's
43:47
Speaker 2: heart opening and Okay, it might not be the same
43:50
Speaker 2: when you look at your I don't know, you know,
43:54
Speaker 2: you know running water in the sense like where your
43:56
Speaker 2: heart opens for it. But think about people have no
44:00
Speaker 2: access to running water, right, And a lot of times
44:04
Speaker 2: what I do is when I get in the shower,
44:07
Speaker 2: I get very present and I'll feel the hot water
44:12
Speaker 2: and I'll you know, and I'll really try to tap
44:15
Speaker 2: into that.
44:16
Speaker 3: Feeling about God.
44:18
Speaker 2: How lucky am I that I have fresh hot water,
44:22
Speaker 2: you know, and nice smelling soaps, and that I can
44:26
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like my body is working.
44:29
Speaker 2: My body is working. I got to the shower. I
44:33
Speaker 2: can move my arms and legs.
44:36
Speaker 3: You know. So it does take practice, but it's something
44:39
Speaker 3: that you can do.
44:41
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, it does. And to be alive, to be breathing,
44:44
Speaker 4: to be here is a gift. And when you know,
44:48
Speaker 4: many people don't realize that until all of a sudden
44:51
Speaker 4: their life might extinguish, or might be gone, or they're
44:53
Speaker 4: about to die, or there's some crisis. It's like, but
44:55
Speaker 4: when you go through that, you realize, Wow, how incredible
44:59
Speaker 4: that I'm alive?
45:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think right now trying to focus on
45:06
Speaker 2: those things and also things that bring you joy, doing
45:10
Speaker 2: simple things that bring you joy, Like what do you
45:13
Speaker 2: do that just is something that's just so joyful that
45:18
Speaker 2: you just love. You know, maybe it'll spark ideas for
45:22
Speaker 2: people who are listening that right now all they can
45:24
Speaker 2: think about is how awful everything is.
45:29
Speaker 4: You know, all of us are different. I'm also a painter.
45:34
Speaker 4: I pint I'll get a huge canvas and I'll just
45:38
Speaker 4: start painting and it's like the time stops, the world stops.
45:43
Speaker 4: It's magical. So what people are passionate about. I also
45:47
Speaker 4: I am a baker. I love to bake, and I'll
45:51
Speaker 4: take a recipe and do it ten times till it's
45:53
Speaker 4: like perfect, and then I'll go on. You know, I'm
45:56
Speaker 4: getting walking in nature.
45:58
Speaker 5: You know.
45:58
Speaker 4: I invite people when I talk about this, just what
46:02
Speaker 4: fills your heart? What is life giving? What gives you
46:05
Speaker 4: some love? Joy? Peace? What is that? And paying attention
46:09
Speaker 4: and leaning into that.
46:12
Speaker 3: Definitely.
46:13
Speaker 2: I mean I'm a I'm a creative So when I happened,
46:18
Speaker 2: when I'm doing something and my creativity is sparked, I'm
46:22
Speaker 2: in the present moment, I'm feeling joy. I can feel
46:26
Speaker 2: my frequency, my energy higher.
46:29
Speaker 3: It feels good, you know.
46:31
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a big proponent of And you don't
46:35
Speaker 2: have to be an artist to be creative, like you said,
46:38
Speaker 2: I mean like like traditionally, I mean like a painter,
46:42
Speaker 2: photographer or sculptor, Like you can be creative and your
46:45
Speaker 2: cooking for your family, right, yeah, that's not can bring
46:50
Speaker 2: you joy?
46:51
Speaker 3: Yeah?
46:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I do think healing. I'm on this path
46:55
Speaker 4: of healing and I help people and healing, the pathway
46:59
Speaker 4: to healing. It is really true personally, professionally, in my
47:02
Speaker 4: fro thousands of the book, in this books, in this arena.
47:05
Speaker 4: But it's just it's feeling your feelings and that can
47:08
Speaker 4: be hard when life is messy and hard. But can
47:13
Speaker 4: you create a little space if you're also having a
47:15
Speaker 4: hard day, or you're angry or sad, or something from
47:18
Speaker 4: family of origin got triggered, or the more you can
47:21
Speaker 4: have space to be able to even just you know,
47:25
Speaker 4: name what's happening, Name what's upsetting you, Name the feeling.
47:29
Speaker 4: Breathe into a little bit. I promise it starts to
47:31
Speaker 4: dissipate and then there's space and there's breathing room. It's
47:37
Speaker 4: really important.
47:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point because a lot of us,
47:41
Speaker 2: when something happens and we're triggered, we look for ways
47:47
Speaker 2: to avoid it. And what you're telling us is, don't
47:50
Speaker 2: avoid feeling it, feel it.
47:52
Speaker 3: And yep through it.
47:54
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's really a lot.
47:56
Speaker 2: Of a certain yeah, because we're terrified, try to feel
48:00
Speaker 2: our feelings.
48:03
Speaker 4: And I've worked with a lot of people, for example,
48:06
Speaker 4: around grief, and you know, if all of a sudden,
48:09
Speaker 4: a family member, someone close to you has died. Grief
48:13
Speaker 4: is really heavy, and I'm all about can you feel
48:17
Speaker 4: it a little bit and take a break. You know
48:19
Speaker 4: it's going to be there, so feel it a little
48:22
Speaker 4: and then can you get out and go for a
48:23
Speaker 4: walk or call a friend, or go to the grocery
48:26
Speaker 4: store or But it really to be fully healthy, integrated,
48:32
Speaker 4: vibrantly alive. It's feeling our feelings. It's the gateway to
48:37
Speaker 4: coming into our essence, our soul. It's really important.
48:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I know it's not easy. I'm
48:44
Speaker 2: just curious. Are more of your clients women than men?
48:48
Speaker 2: Are you starting to see more and more men?
48:51
Speaker 4: Yeah? Interesting questions they are. I would say two thirds
48:55
Speaker 4: they're women, a third men, But more and more men
48:58
Speaker 4: are coming and just saying I feel, you know, I
49:02
Speaker 4: feel something's missing. I feel numb. I don't want to
49:05
Speaker 4: live this way. There's got to be more, so, more
49:08
Speaker 4: and more men I actually am seeing.
49:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
49:14
Speaker 2: I've just had this feeling that there's been so much
49:18
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity for so long, and we're seeing it really
49:24
Speaker 2: vibrating really, you know, openly right now. But I think
49:28
Speaker 2: a lot of men are starting to ask themselves the
49:33
Speaker 2: deeper questions and start doing some of that soul searching.
49:38
Speaker 2: That not that women are I don't mean to say
49:41
Speaker 2: women are better. I don't mean it like that. I
49:43
Speaker 2: just think women were just naturally more in touch with
49:45
Speaker 2: our emotions and that's nurtured a lot for us when
49:49
Speaker 2: we're younger with men.
49:50
Speaker 3: You know, boys don't.
49:51
Speaker 2: Cry, be a man, you know that kind of stuff
49:54
Speaker 2: that girls don't get. So I just think and naturally
49:57
Speaker 2: we're just more emotional. But I've I kind of feel
50:00
Speaker 2: like that's happening. Would you agree, yeah.
50:04
Speaker 4: And I would say that I think there's just an
50:07
Speaker 4: opening happening among everyone. I think about the pandemic. I mean,
50:14
Speaker 4: until the pandemic, most people, a lot of people haven't
50:18
Speaker 4: seen life and death in front of your eyes like
50:20
Speaker 4: wet would see via TV et cetera. I think that
50:24
Speaker 4: cracked people open. I also think, as a surgeon general
50:27
Speaker 4: has said in the country, that we're in a loneliness
50:29
Speaker 4: epidemic when other two people are lonely. I just think
50:33
Speaker 4: there is a conflux of why am I here? What
50:37
Speaker 4: does it mean to be alive? Feeling unease that's causing
50:42
Speaker 4: everyone to start to look a little more inward. And
50:46
Speaker 4: trying to find meaning.
50:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
50:51
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about Yeah, I'm not that I
50:54
Speaker 2: forgot about the pandemic, but you know, I'm not thinking
50:57
Speaker 2: about it.
50:57
Speaker 3: But yeah, that did crack a lot of people open.
51:01
Speaker 4: Ye.
51:02
Speaker 2: Do you do groups or or do you just see
51:05
Speaker 2: one on one clients?
51:06
Speaker 3: Do you teach classes that kind of stuff?
51:11
Speaker 4: Yeah? I do. I do a lot in my private
51:16
Speaker 4: practice where I see one or two people in sessions
51:21
Speaker 4: in the past. In groups, I'm doing a few, not
51:24
Speaker 4: a lot. I do actually do quite a bit of
51:27
Speaker 4: public speaking events here in the Midwest, and I'm doing
51:33
Speaker 4: a lot relating to podcasts. I'm actually starting my own podcast. Yeah,
51:41
Speaker 4: it's gonna launch in April, and it's going to be
51:44
Speaker 4: called It's Everyday Awakening, and the subtitle is we are
51:48
Speaker 4: here to awaken daily what it means to be alive,
51:52
Speaker 4: so for people to look for that. It'll be launching
51:54
Speaker 4: in April.
51:56
Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic.
51:57
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you're going to be going through a
51:59
Speaker 2: lot of what is in your book on your podcast.
52:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
52:04
Speaker 2: We need more of that. We need more of these
52:06
Speaker 2: out there. We need more podcasts and books like this.
52:10
Speaker 2: So if I am going through a very difficult time.
52:19
Speaker 2: This is for anybody who's listening and is feeling this
52:22
Speaker 2: way right now, going through a very difficult time.
52:25
Speaker 3: And I feel.
52:27
Speaker 2: Very you said lonely, loneliness, and I feel very lonely.
52:31
Speaker 3: What would you suggest would be the.
52:34
Speaker 2: First thing I should do to try to open my heart,
52:38
Speaker 2: try to find connections, Like what advice would you give somebody?
52:44
Speaker 4: So I would start with what can comfort your heart?
52:50
Speaker 4: What can come for your heart? And even just starting
52:53
Speaker 4: self care with basics. Are you getting good sleep? Just
52:58
Speaker 4: at getting good sleep is like you know, really hard sleep,
53:02
Speaker 4: good nutrition, moving your body, community. I mean, here's the research.
53:08
Speaker 4: You have one or two authentic friends, you live longer?
53:11
Speaker 4: Is there someone you can talk with and confide with,
53:14
Speaker 4: and you know what would help you just feel a
53:19
Speaker 4: little more warmth and love and light in your heart,
53:22
Speaker 4: in your being and leaning into that? You know, I
53:25
Speaker 4: go back to the you know what's life giving in
53:28
Speaker 4: your life? Can you grow that? Is it a particular person?
53:31
Speaker 4: Is it you know when you do a particular hobby,
53:34
Speaker 4: is it? You know what when you get out in
53:36
Speaker 4: nature it fills your soul? Can you do that? And
53:39
Speaker 4: just being mindful of creating more space to grow and
53:44
Speaker 4: marinate in the good and getting the support that you need.
53:49
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's that's good. Yeah, I like that.
53:53
Speaker 2: And is there anything that you want to leave us
53:56
Speaker 2: with We only have like a couple of minutes. And
53:59
Speaker 2: tell everybody where they can get your book.
54:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. My book, every Day Awakening.
54:06
Speaker 4: It's on Amazon, it's on Barnes and Noble, It's in
54:11
Speaker 4: Barnes and Nobles and a bunch of cities in the country.
54:13
Speaker 4: If you even google Everyday Awakening dot com you'll find it.
54:18
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'd love to hear from people if you
54:22
Speaker 4: get a chance to get my book and look for
54:24
Speaker 4: my podcast, every Day Awakening, that's going to launch nationwide
54:28
Speaker 4: here in April. And thank you so much for having
54:32
Speaker 4: me on your show today.
54:35
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Catherine. It's been a pleasure talking to you.
54:38
Speaker 2: And yeah, guys, if you want to find out more
54:41
Speaker 2: about Katherine, go to her website Katherine Duncan dot org.
54:47
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming Katherine people your podcast will be linked
54:50
Speaker 2: through your website, correct people, absolutely, Yeah, that's that's exciting.
54:56
Speaker 2: Are you gonna have guests or you're just going to
54:58
Speaker 2: do just you talk?
55:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, guess we're we're already interviewing, taping away. So
55:06
Speaker 4: it's I love that guests talking about being alive, what's awakening,
55:12
Speaker 4: what is life giving? That's what my podcast is gonna
55:15
Speaker 4: be about.
55:16
Speaker 2: Oh good, Yeah, I think it'll be very helpful people,
55:20
Speaker 2: So look for her in April. Guys, and thank you
55:24
Speaker 2: so much. I really appreciate our conversation today. I think
55:28
Speaker 2: a lot of people benefited a lot of people.
55:30
Speaker 3: It was great.
55:31
Speaker 2: Thank you, Catherine, all right, every you too.
55:36
Speaker 3: All right, everybody, thanks for listening.
55:37
Speaker 2: Postcards to the Universe with Melissa creating the life you crave.
55:41
Speaker 3: And I'm wishing everyone a wonderful week. I'll enjoy abundance
55:46
Speaker 3: and love. Peace.
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Speaker 4: Wall