Latest / Virtuous Leaders with Dr. Johann D'Souza / Ep.77 – Juggling Motherhood & Mission: Catholic Wisdom for Today | Faith & Family | Balancing Life | Catholic Moms | Conservative Values
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- 0:00We try to bring a faithful Catholic voice to the public
- 0:03square. So we'll write, do media
- 0:04appearances. We host our own nationally
- 0:07syndicated radio show called Conversations with Consequences,
- 0:10also available as a podcast. We take turns hosting and Co
- 0:13hosting. Sometimes we just do a team chat
- 0:15with 2-3 or four of us of a different topic that might be in
- 0:18the news right now. We address topics that are
- 0:21important to Catholics, not just Catholic topics, but things that
- 0:25national news, local news, and we bring a Catholic perspective.
- 0:29Not necessarily necessarily only for Catholics, because we
- 0:32publish in mainstream publications as well as Catholic
- 0:35publications, but that's what we do.
- 0:37And it's a very collegial group. We work together, we co-author,
- 0:41we research for each other, and it's a really fantastic setup
- 0:45and it's built for women who are primarily moms so that we can do
- 0:49both and we don't have to step out of the game.
- 0:56So you are a prolific writer and you're a fellow at the Catholic
- 1:00Association. Can you just share a little bit
- 1:02about your mission there? Sure, we are four women moms.
- 1:06One of us is a young grandmother.
- 1:08We try to bring a faithful Catholic voice to the public
- 1:11square. So we'll write, do media
- 1:13appearances. We host our own nationally
- 1:16syndicated radio show called Conversations with Consequences,
- 1:19also available as a podcast. We take turns hosting and Co
- 1:23hosting. Sometimes we just do a team chat
- 1:24with to three or four of us of a different topic that might be,
- 1:28you know, in the news right now. We address topics that are
- 1:31important to Catholics, not just Catholic topics, but you know,
- 1:35things that, you know, national news, local news that and we
- 1:39bring a Catholic perspective, not necessarily only for
- 1:43Catholics, because we publish in mainstream publications as well
- 1:47as Catholic publications, but that's, that's what we do.
- 1:50And we are, it's a very collegial group.
- 1:53We work together, we co-author, we research for each other.
- 1:57And it's a it's a really fantastic set up and it's built
- 2:00for women who are primarily moms.
- 2:04And so that we can do, we can do both, and we don't have to step
- 2:07out of the game. Wonderful.
- 2:09Do you have a sense for what kind of impact that's had?
- 2:12You know, we're growing, we're getting more social media savvy.
- 2:15Our Twitter feed has been really picking up lately.
- 2:19Two of our team, therefore, two of our team were in Rome for the
- 2:22Conclave and did some hits on ABC and NBC and I think Fox
- 2:29News. A lot of EWTN, of course,
- 2:31they're good friends of ours and we're quoted extensively.
- 2:34Ashley McGuire, my colleague, was, I think, quoted in both the
- 2:37New York Times, the New York Post, maybe even the Washington
- 2:39Post. My other colleague, Mary
- 2:41Fiorito, too. We are stepping into sub stack,
- 2:45but we're we're figuring that out exactly how we want that to
- 2:47look. But we're hoping it'll be some
- 2:49more hot takes from us on, you know, minute by the minute news
- 2:55rather than having to wait for us to, you know, write a piece
- 2:57and then place it. And, you know, we'll be able to,
- 2:59you know, shoot out something quick on our sub stack for a
- 3:02reader. So how do you balance being a
- 3:04mom and doing all the writing that you do with various outlets
- 3:07and especially the Catholic Association?
- 3:10Well, I have a very supportive husband who also as a professor,
- 3:13has a flexible schedule. He's actually been on sabbatical
- 3:17this year. And he's also, well, we're both
- 3:18writing books this year. And so we've both been home,
- 3:21which has been great. You know, we do have some
- 3:24childcare help. You know, we just, you just keep
- 3:26throwing balls in the air and, you know, just keep sticking
- 3:29your arms out to catch them. And it works this year, too.
- 3:32Speaking of the collegiality of the women of the Catholic
- 3:34Association, since I am writing a book and I'm almost done and
- 3:37it'll be coming out early next year with Sophia Institute
- 3:40Press, my colleagues have really picked up the slack for me.
- 3:43I haven't done much hosting of the radio show, except if, when
- 3:47it pertains to something related to my book.
- 3:49I think once I was a guest on our own radio show as a way to,
- 3:53you know, keep me relevant but not, you know, put extra burdens
- 3:57on me to prepare for a guest. And I've I've stepped back a
- 3:59little bit from the editorial writing.
- 4:02What's your book about? Infertility from a Catholic
- 4:04perspective. Can you tell us more about that?
- 4:07Sure. I had a couple, two or three
- 4:09pieces in the National Catholic Register that, you know, I think
- 4:13saying things went viral is kind of a overused term at this
- 4:16point. But it was really, really well
- 4:19received. And I think a lot of women and
- 4:21even couples and even priests reached out to me and said, hey,
- 4:25this is important, this is real. Thank you for writing this.
- 4:28Thank you for writing this. Priest said, I'm going to keep
- 4:30this on file to give to the people who come to me because
- 4:33sometimes I don't know what to say.
- 4:35And then I just had another mentor of mine just said to me,
- 4:39Lee, this is your book. And so I went together putting
- 4:43together a proposal. And then Sophia Institute Press
- 4:47picked it up. And so here I am almost done.
- 4:50It's it's somewhat autobiographical.
- 4:52I sort of use our path is, you know, we got married young and
- 4:58we've never been pregnant once. And we had, you know, some ups
- 5:02and downs. We adopted our four children and
- 5:05we were still in the process of trying to conceive.
- 5:08And I'm also, I've, I've interviewed several women.
- 5:11Somehow we have found each other across the universe, other
- 5:13Catholic women who have suffered from infertility because
- 5:16everyone's got a kind of different flavor.
- 5:18You know, some people don't find marriage until maybe they're in
- 5:22their 40s. So that's, you know, different
- 5:23than someone in their 20s experienced infertility.
- 5:27Or some people have had medical conditions where they've had to
- 5:30have a very, very early hysterectomy and then have
- 5:33permanent infertility at a young age.
- 5:36So I want anyone who sort of picks up the book to be able to
- 5:39see themselves in it. I'm pretty, you know, I'm pretty
- 5:43real about feelings, feelings of jealousy, feeling of inadequacy.
- 5:48I have an imaginary character that I had invented in the days
- 5:52of, you know, really, really sort of being sad and really
- 5:56desperately wanting to be pregnant and not getting
- 5:58pregnant. And she was called Fertile
- 5:59Myrtle. She was basically a super devout
- 6:02Catholic supermodel and she had a lot of, she could just get
- 6:06pregnant. And I was really worried my
- 6:09husband was going to fight her and leave me for her.
- 6:12I had dreams about Fertile Myrtle, you know, So I try to
- 6:14keep it real. I try to keep it a heavy
- 6:17subject. I try to lighten it up a little
- 6:19bit with just like a conversation, but also reminding
- 6:23people of the church's teaching on say like artificial
- 6:26reproductive technologies and explaining that pro technology
- 6:30and things like that. If people want to find Fertile
- 6:32Myrtle, where would they look? Oh, I you know, she was a
- 6:36figment of my imagination. So they could.
- 6:39That's a joke, sorry. Sometimes I was like, wait a
- 6:43minute, what did I say when I introduced fertile Marlins?
- 6:45And make him think she is real. Or, you know, I've actually
- 6:49stashed her in the basement so she wreak her fertile havoc on
- 6:52the husband. They just turned it to a Stephen
- 6:54King novel. Yeah, I'll be one of those
- 6:58documentaries. True crime.
- 6:59So you've been featured on a bunch of different outlets.
- 7:02What was your process for getting access to those?
- 7:05You know, we have Catholic association, we have a media
- 7:09team that places our pieces like it just sometimes it a lot of
- 7:13times it's also friends. We can just get directly to
- 7:15them, like at that a piece or I've got an idea for a piece.
- 7:18Do you think you'll you know, is I have room for that this week.
- 7:22Are you or you know, has a new cycle moved on?
- 7:24We'll send out feelers like that.
- 7:25A lot of us have been in sort of like the Catholic policy media
- 7:32stuff circles for a long time. And so we know a lot of each
- 7:36other, you know, so we know people at some different
- 7:37outlets, but usually it's just a matter of getting your piece
- 7:42done and making a good point. And then our team media team
- 7:46pitches it to different outlets. And yeah, I needed help for the
- 7:50best. And sometimes it doesn't get
- 7:52picked up, you know, And then it was just a good exercise.
- 7:55Well, I think it's really cool that y'all found a niche where
- 7:58you can be moms and you can contribute to society in a more
- 8:03public way. I'm not.
- 8:06Well, I've had a guest on my show, Erica Commissar, who
- 8:09speaks about the danger of being away from your baby for extended
- 8:13periods of time. So I'm not in principle opposed
- 8:16to moms working. What I'm opposed to is moms
- 8:19being away from their babies for long periods of time.
- 8:22And it sounds like you all found a way to balance that.
- 8:25Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I mean, I think when we
- 8:28my youngest is 3 and I had been with the Catholic Association
- 8:31about a year, but immediately it was understood that I wouldn't
- 8:35even be joining in our weekly Zoom calls, you know, for a few
- 8:38months. And then he often still joins me
- 8:42on the Zoom calls. Yeah, it's, it's nice.
- 8:44Everybody works from home. We don't travel a lot.
- 8:47We're not away from our families.
- 8:49And, you know, if something comes up and you were committed
- 8:51to do something, all you have to do is say the word.
- 8:53This is happening. You know, I can't do it.
- 8:56Like my kid forgot their lunch at home and I had to take it to
- 8:58school. I can't record the podcast
- 9:00today. And that's that's enough.
- 9:02You know, that's enough because we're all moms and we all
- 9:03understand. I.
- 9:04Want to get to more specifics of what the Catholic Association
- 9:07covers? You said you're covering news
- 9:10for faithful Catholics. What do you think are the issues
- 9:13that you most want to highlight for faithful Catholics?
- 9:17What are the most, the biggest challenges that our world faces?
- 9:21They all want to address. Yeah, I think, well, we really
- 9:25concentrate a lot on abortion legislation and abortion news.
- 9:29I guess we try to, we try to highlight the positive.
- 9:33For instance, my colleague Ashley McGuire and I wrote a
- 9:36piece maybe a year and a half ago, maybe just a year ago
- 9:39anyway, and it got put published in Newsweek.
- 9:42And it was around the time that the Britney Spears memoir had
- 9:46come out. So this is sort of where we
- 9:48engage with the culture while, you know, representing Catholic
- 9:51values. And she talked about how
- 9:52tragically she had suffered from a medical abortion in her
- 9:55bathroom. Oh.
- 9:56My gosh. It was heartbreaking.
- 9:59And you think this gazillion dollar pop star, you'd imagine
- 10:03that she'd have some sort of luxury abortion suite at a
- 10:05private hospital. But there she was suffering
- 10:08alone in the bathroom. And we used that to highlight
- 10:12Attorney General Lynn Fitch, her program in Mississippi, and she
- 10:17is called Mama. And it's about empowering women.
- 10:22And the motto is you can do this.
- 10:24And so she's doing the hard work there on the ground.
- 10:27And we used, you know, a popular trending news item to promote
- 10:32her and to, you know, like, let people know the good work that
- 10:35she's doing. That'll be something we would
- 10:37do. There's been a lot of work on
- 10:40the misrepresentation of the complications from medical
- 10:43abortions. Some of my colleagues have
- 10:45written on that. A lot of emphasis on some of the
- 10:49school, like required reading things that were happening in
- 10:52Montgomery County, Maryland, children being, you know, given
- 10:56books about all kinds of things that, you know, as preschoolers
- 10:59and kindergarteners and not being allowed to opt out of
- 11:01those lessons. You know, whenever there is some
- 11:05sort of religious liberty violation, we try to highlight
- 11:08that. But also, if, you know, if
- 11:10someone writes, you know, a beautiful new book, like we've
- 11:13had Jennifer Hooton Wilson on our podcast a lot of times and
- 11:16the podcasts tend to be a little bit more, more fun than some of
- 11:20our op eds because we it's a conversation, you know, but it's
- 11:23something that really matters. We like to highlight the good
- 11:27work that's happening, you know, with priests and with religious
- 11:30sisters, with people being married.
- 11:33And, you know, it's it's really can run the gamut.
- 11:35Anything that sort of strikes our fancy are the things that we
- 11:38like to concentrate on. You know, this gender ideology
- 11:41in school is so irrational and evil and disturbing, but I
- 11:46sometimes wonder if it's actually a distraction from an
- 11:49even greater evil, which is a tyrannical one world government.
- 11:54Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's that's upsetting.
- 11:59But yeah, tell me more about that.
- 12:00Tell me more about that idea. Divide and conquer.
- 12:03So the devil's tool is disunity. The Holy Spirit brings unity.
- 12:08These hop on issues are very controversial, very polarizing
- 12:14and at the same time they're just so irrational.
- 12:17The people who the people who propose them, they don't seem to
- 12:22me very well educated, smart. So the question is why are they
- 12:27getting so much traction? And I think that those who would
- 12:31want an empire that extends across the whole globe in order
- 12:35to have a totalitarian government, they would want to
- 12:41put people at odds with each other to distract from the real
- 12:45agenda. Well, and it's attack, it's an
- 12:47attack on the family, too, right?
- 12:49Which we know is the devil's playground.
- 12:52Yeah. No, I can see what you're saying
- 12:53there. Yeah.
- 12:54I hadn't, I guess, thought about it beyond, you know, saving my
- 12:58kid right now, you know, the sort of immediacy of it.
- 13:01But, yeah, I think that you. Yeah.
- 13:04I mean, yeah, it's hard to know who's behind everything.
- 13:08So many layers. So many layers.
- 13:10The evil onion. Yeah, yeah.
- 13:13So, yeah, that's, well, that's another thing I think that it's,
- 13:16it's important to note too, that Planned Parenthood isn't even,
- 13:19isn't always just in the crosshairs because of its role
- 13:22with abortion, but also with its providing transitional drugs and
- 13:28hormones to people. That's a big part of their
- 13:31business. So that would be something we
- 13:33would point out too. Good.
- 13:34Well, I'm glad someone's exposing these people.
- 13:37Yeah. Willie, you have some great
- 13:39work. Is there anything else you want
- 13:40to share with us? No, I well, you know what we do
- 13:43a media eclipse everyday, the Catholic Association.
- 13:46So if you want to go to catholicassociation.org and
- 13:49subscribe, you get a daily e-mail of different mainstream
- 13:53media and also big Catholic media, a selection of clips
- 13:57every day. It can range from maybe 6 to,
- 13:59you know, when there's something big happening, like the
- 14:01conclave, it's going to be more like 15 or 16.
- 14:03But it's great. It's I would subscribe even if I
- 14:05wasn't part of the Catholic Association.
- 14:07I would say tune into our podcast Conversations with
- 14:10Consequences. And yeah, you know, reach out
- 14:14and if you have any story ideas. One story idea which I'll wrap
- 14:17up into my last question. Sure, what do you think the odds
- 14:21that the new Pope is a closet based Trump supporter?
- 14:26I just read a fantastic piece by Kathleen Parker in the
- 14:29Washington Post about his brother.
- 14:31So I don't know. I mean, you know, they seem like
- 14:33they're close. I, you know, I, you know, you
- 14:35just, I couldn't say, you know, it's people.
- 14:38People have kept their Trump likes or dislikes pretty close
- 14:42to the chest. And whether or not that is
- 14:44telling, I guess remains to be seen.
- 14:47Fair enough, thankfully. Great.
- 14:48Thank you. Yawn.