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10/28/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: On this day that might be the last day of
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: the baseball season.
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  Speaker 2: We hope it is.
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  Speaker 1: And then let's plan a parade and a celebration. How
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: do you want it to go down tonight? And what
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: are you more worried about going into this game? The Brewers' bullpen,
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss' pitching side of it, or the offense? Because
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  Speaker 1: the hidden, the people are like, oh, they shouldn't have
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: gone to drawing.
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  Speaker 2: Ortiz shouldn't have thrown that ball away. Yes, maybe, yes.
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  Speaker 2: But the hidden reason for that loss is the 0-for-22
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  Speaker 2: loss combined for Bowers, Yellich, Contreras, Terang, and Mitchell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the only other hits that you get, I
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  Speaker 1: think you get four hits for the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: lineup in 30, what, 35, 37 at-bats. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: two from Churio, you leave them out there at second base,
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  Speaker 1: which would have been a great insurance run and a
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  Speaker 1: prime time to be able to have one. You just,
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  Speaker 1: you can't, and I can't say you can't because they're
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  Speaker 1: up 3-1 here, right? Their only home runs are coming
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  Speaker 1: from a 7, 8, 9-hole hitter. And now the Rays
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  Speaker 1: haven't necessarily blasted a ton. They lost the one game
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: that they did, and Homer gave them a 4-0 lead
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  Speaker 1: in the first inning. I'd say the biggest one is
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  Speaker 1: you can't get behind early with.
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  Speaker 2: Miz then getting ousted, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like Miz can't go two and two thirds, give up
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  Speaker 1: four and Rasmussen's cooking through five. Because at that point, Drew,
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  Speaker 1: then a lot of the mathematics changes to where you're at.
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  Speaker 1: Bullpen wise, you start getting real taxed after you felt
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  Speaker 1: like you couldn't have been in a better situation coming
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  Speaker 1: off the off day and the blowout. I think the
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  Speaker 1: biggest one is you get down early, absolutely you can
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  Speaker 1: come back. We've seen this team be able to scrap
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  Speaker 1: and claw and be able to put together runs a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different times. But I think the big one
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  Speaker 1: is if you give up runs early and then instantly
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  Speaker 1: Mizorowski's out of the game, that's going to set yourself
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  Speaker 1: up for a really, really difficult slot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see the elite Mizorowski that
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  Speaker 1: we still haven't seen in the playoffs yet. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the main thing. He was struggling to put batters
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  Speaker 1: away in that first game. Obviously, they still won. But
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  Speaker 1: if you can get the elite Mizorowski, you can do
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  Speaker 1: a lot to help your ball club. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: offense is something that comes and goes. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: did get a little bit from other guys last night.
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  Speaker 1: What I would be concerned with the offense is I
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  Speaker 1: would want them to keep the same, you know, aggressive
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  Speaker 1: mentality of taking pitches, putting pressure on walks, and not
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  Speaker 1: kind of fall into a trap. I felt like they
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  Speaker 1: fell in the last five, six innings last night, which
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  Speaker 1: was maybe trying to take big swings for the fences,
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  Speaker 1: although it didn't eventually work.
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  Speaker 2: They had to get that homer.
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  Speaker 1: But you want to see the Brewers still have that
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  Speaker 1: consistent pressure with trying to get walks, trying to tax
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  Speaker 1: a beleaguered pitching staff. Obviously, you have Rashford tonight on
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  Speaker 1: short rest. So if you can find a way to
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  Speaker 1: do that, because the Brewers were tagging some balls early
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  Speaker 1: last night that just didn't fall for them. A little
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  Speaker 1: bit of, you know, hard hit bad luck there. I
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  Speaker 1: want my guys to focus and say, hey, just keep
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  Speaker 1: the process. Still trust in what you do. Those balls
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  Speaker 1: will fall. Keep working the counts in your favor and
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  Speaker 1: let Miz do his thing. Again, for the numbers, maybe
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  Speaker 1: put you at ease or maybe not. Only four other
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  Speaker 1: teams that were down 3-0 even survived game four to
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  Speaker 1: force a game five. And none of them won game five.
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  Speaker 2: None of them won game five.
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  Speaker 1: It was 1910, 1937, Bernie Carbo in 1970 with the Reds,
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  Speaker 1: and Anthony Rizzo in the 2024 Yankees. And the most
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  Speaker 1: recent one, those 2024 Yankees, you mentioned the Rizzo hit.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees then did exactly what I just explained, went
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  Speaker 1: up early on the Dodgers in game five. I think
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  Speaker 1: they hit them for two or three runs in the
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  Speaker 1: first inning. And then that's the game the judge drops
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the fifth inning. The Dodgers played five,
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  Speaker 1: flipped the scoreboard, and what looked like a celebration euphoric
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  Speaker 1: night at Yankee Stadium, quickly they got resigned to the
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  Speaker 1: fact of, oh, wait, we are still down 3-1, and
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  Speaker 1: now we're going to lose the World Series, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to watch them celebrate on our turf.
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  Speaker 1: As much as the excitement and the energy and the
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  Speaker 1: mother-mo can flow in a baseball game and a series...
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  Speaker 1: I think baseball is the hardest one to be able
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  Speaker 1: to hold that momentum for throughout. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 1: the crew last night. They have a C on the
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  Speaker 1: west side of Florida of Brewers fans. Momentum was only
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  Speaker 1: as good as your throw over from third base.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. One of my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: And Jason Stark's the man because the guy who scored
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  Speaker 1: the winning run for the Rays was their backup catcher,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Fortes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: He had never pinch run in his life, and he
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  Speaker 1: pinch runs for the first time in his career and
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  Speaker 1: scores the winning run in the World Series. That had
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  Speaker 1: never happened before. I don't think any catcher pinch running.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I would have thought at that.
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  Speaker 2: Point it could have been one of their relievers.
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  Speaker 1: The other hidden moment for me is, and I chuckled
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  Speaker 1: to myself, is that Andrew Vaughn comes up to pinch hit,
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  Speaker 1: sees two pitches.
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  Speaker 2: Brad gets thrown out stealing. And his at-bat is over,
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  Speaker 2: and he's burned for the game. Yeah, it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 2: Because he came out. He didn't stay in the game.
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  Speaker 2: He's burned for the game.
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  Speaker 1: So you get, like, it's not a played appearance, but
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: you get a game played. And in the box score,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you didn't, you know, there's not an at-bat, really.
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  Speaker 2: Like Larry Yount? Yeah, kind of.
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  Speaker 1: It's like one of those, he's like in this, it's
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  Speaker 1: a phantom, it's the invisible batter, kind of. And it
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel like, I know this is illogical and just emotional,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't it feel like he was going to come
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  Speaker 1: up big? I just had that feeling that Vaughn was
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  Speaker 1: going to hit something hard. If Pratt's at second base,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's getting a base hit. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: that way I would have said that he would have.
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  Speaker 1: But again, like, I mean, Baker was right at the
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  Speaker 1: tail end of his night. He hasn't been a two-inning
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  Speaker 1: guy really ever in his career. And was that right
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  Speaker 1: after the deep flyout or was Mitchell's flyout to Mullins?
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was the same one, right? I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to remember. I really can't. But I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: That he tags to deep left field? Because Cooper's hustling
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  Speaker 2: back to first.
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  Speaker 1: You're immediately feeling pretty confident that you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: some kind of good wood on this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the fact that it was just.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Vaughn hadn't gotten a chance to hit yet.
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  Speaker 2: He's been going well all year.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like he was going to go up there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, not hacking, but he was going to be
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: a hitter and find something to hit and hit it hard. Rasmussen,
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  Speaker 1: the righty Drew, would probably preclude you from starting Vaughn,
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  Speaker 1: but would you be tempted to get him in there
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  Speaker 1: earlier tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I'd be tempted for sure. But you know, they're not.
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  Speaker 1: Bauer's two for 15. Bauer's is just so cold. You
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  Speaker 1: got to at least drop Bauer's in the lineup or
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  Speaker 1: do something because that's what I would do. But don't
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  Speaker 1: you think they're going to get a lefty in there
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  Speaker 1: at some point anyway? They have a lot of lefty
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  Speaker 1: open guys.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But the Vaughn do-si-do where you get, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: get a game played but no played appearance.
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  Speaker 2: There's no at-bat. It reminded me of when I was
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  Speaker 2: in the hole at fantasy camp. And when you get
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  Speaker 2: hit by a pitch, you get to stay up. I'm
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  Speaker 2: the third batter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing in the on-deck circle at the start of
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  Speaker 1: the inning and warming up, getting ready for my at-bat.
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  Speaker 2: Right there.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the ticker. A guy gets hit by a pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Then he strikes out. And then it got grounds into
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  Speaker 1: a double play. And the third batter never reached base.
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  Speaker 1: And he never reached the plate. I never got to
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  Speaker 1: the plate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, and I remember pleading my case to Eddie Cedar.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, only at Fantasy Camp.
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  Speaker 2: Only at Fantasy Camp, guys. Guys, a lot of standing around, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my God. But that's how Vaughn had
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  Speaker 2: to think. He gave you a double wave right back
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  Speaker 2: to the bench. Did you play in the World Series? Well, technically, yes.
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  Speaker 2: I was up there, kids. I'm in the team picture.
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  Speaker 1: I saw two pitches, but I didn't get any.
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  Speaker 2: I got a game played, but no stat.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's the only one okay with it going five
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  Speaker 1: so he can get a chance.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. Obviously, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: But that is kind of one of those footnotes of history, possibly.
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  Speaker 2: Insanity. All right, kids. Let's sit around and watch dads
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  Speaker 2: at bat in the World Series.
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  Speaker 4: Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Did the tape go out? Two pitches. Nope, that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a funny story, though. He's Moonlight Graham, according
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  Speaker 2: to Mark and Madison.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that one of those photographers got a picture
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  Speaker 1: of me up there, right?
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  Speaker 2: Did you guys snap one? Did anyone get one? Photo
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  Speaker 2: lane two? Anybody?
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  Speaker 1: So what is the big concern tonight? To me, Miz,
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  Speaker 1: you'll know right away. What's he got tonight, right? How's
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: he doing?
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  Speaker 2: Is it another 26-pitch first inning? That would be good.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, even if I said, you know, they get down early,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably the pitch count gets high early, right? Like, again,
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  Speaker 1: because if it's a two-run lead, that's fine. You're going
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  Speaker 1: up against an incredible stud over at Drew Rasmussen. But
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  Speaker 1: you dragged him for three and two-thirds, and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: get out of the fourth inning in game two. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not all that worried about being able to.
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  Speaker 2: Get to him. I think his.
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  Speaker 1: Innings are going to be very, very difficult. You got
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  Speaker 1: to get six from Miz because the length is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest part. That's the biggest part because you're depleted tonight.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: You'd rather not use Ashby, but you could maybe for
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  Speaker 1: an inning. Ashby, Uribe, and McGill and Romero. I say
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  Speaker 1: Ashby is kind of questionable, but otherwise it's Romero, McGill,
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  Speaker 1: and Uribe. And that's what you're trying to use for
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  Speaker 1: the back end of the game. So I think he
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  Speaker 1: has to give you 18 outs. I think the Joker's
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  Speaker 1: a good guy to be able to turn it to, right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he gave you two innings in game four
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  Speaker 1: in LA and was massive. And he definitely, he's just
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: very deceptive. You have really good lefties coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the pen. Hall obviously threw a bunch in Ashby, but
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  Speaker 1: they all have different arm angles and different slots. I
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  Speaker 1: think Romero's is maybe the funkiest that would be the
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  Speaker 1: best change up right after Miz. He's topping out at
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  Speaker 1: 94 or something. Let's see that after you watch a
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  Speaker 1: hundredth run go right by your tower every single night.
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  Speaker 1: I would like the ball right at Yandy Diaz's hands
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  Speaker 1: in the first at bat though. Fastball and whatever you have,
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  Speaker 1: he's hanging out over the plate. Test them quick inside.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying up and in. I'm not saying high
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  Speaker 1: and inside. I'm sending that thing right at the upper
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  Speaker 1: inside corner, right at the hands, just to see and
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  Speaker 1: let you know I do have 103. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: leave it out over the plate, you've got to imagine
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: he's hacking and trying to go one and up. He's
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: trying to swing immediately and grab a T-bone steak right
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  Speaker 1: after and juice up the protein. So you got to
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  Speaker 1: keep that thing high and inside because otherwise, you leave
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  Speaker 1: it out over the plate, that thing very much might
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: end up in the bleachers. Yeah, some other odd concerns
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  Speaker 1: I would have is maybe if, you know, the Caminero
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  Speaker 1: thing is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Like, he definitely look hobbled last night. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem healthy to me.
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  Speaker 1: But if he, you know, woke up feeling good and
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  Speaker 1: had some inspirational return for them, was feeling better in
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  Speaker 1: the lineup, making big plays, that could.
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  Speaker 2: Be a momentum thing.
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  Speaker 1: I was listening last night right here on FSR. John
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  Speaker 1: Paul Morosi was on, and he was saying that he
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  Speaker 1: thought the way the comeback worked out for the Rays
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  Speaker 1: works in their favor.
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  Speaker 2: Because then they give momentum.
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  Speaker 1: To their hitters and get them feeling good because they
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: came back hitting in the ninth and it was more
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  Speaker 1: of a one game by them and not a loss
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: game by the Brewers. But I never really bought into that.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could have said the same thing after
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: the Brewers game in game three, like after scoring 10
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  Speaker 1: runs and with an offensive outburst is, you know, is
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: the lineup's momentum is hitting momentum really a thing from
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  Speaker 1: one game to another. I think it's something we think
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  Speaker 1: about as being, you know, logical, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it really works out that way most of the time. No,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: the Brewers had, like we said, 9 for 18 with
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  Speaker 1: runners in scoring position. They barely had any runners in
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: scoring position last night, 0 for 3, right?
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  Speaker 2: It meant nothing for the next day.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little bit like chasing points or better
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see that as being a thing.
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  Speaker 1: At his media availability, Kevin Cash, manager of the Rays,
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  Speaker 1: just said he was asked if Nick Martinez would be
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  Speaker 1: available after pitching two innings last night. Nick is in
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: the clubhouse right now with a stim machine on his
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  Speaker 1: arm and no shirt.
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  Speaker 2: He's ready to go, pumped up.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to hear from all of them
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  Speaker 1: at some point throughout the day that they're good to
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  Speaker 1: go and eager to help in whatever way possible.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: When you're facing elimination, it's all hands on deck. That
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  Speaker 1: is the number one reason Miz didn't pitch last night.
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  Speaker 1: And in a way, it's all easier decisions for him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you don't want to be down 3-0, 3-1.
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  Speaker 2: You have to win today. We have no choice, so
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  Speaker 2: we're going to try it. You have to.
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  Speaker 1: And then figure out tomorrow, tomorrow. That's all you can
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  Speaker 1: do if you're the race. And that's why Miz didn't pitch.
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  Speaker 1: I know people wanted it. Would have been a good story.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been a phenomenal story.
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  Speaker 2: Would it have worked?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a risk worth taking? I don't think so
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  Speaker 2: when you're up 3-0. No, it's not. It would not
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  Speaker 2: have been worth it. If it was 2-2? Uh, I
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: think only like game seven, maybe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe like, cause again, the situation maybe two one,
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  Speaker 1: but again, it's the tough thing is you're sending him in,
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  Speaker 1: in a situation that he has not pitched in, in
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  Speaker 1: the big league. Well, I shouldn't say in the big leagues,
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  Speaker 1: he pitched out of the bullpen last year in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: So he's done it in that role, but not in
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  Speaker 1: over a year when he's become the Miz.
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  Speaker 2: He was Jake.
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  Speaker 1: He was Jake Mizorowski a year ago. Now he's the Miz.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's the Cy Young award winner. And that's a
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  Speaker 1: different beast to have on a mound that, again, this
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  Speaker 1: is my bigger concern early for Miz too. I watched
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  Speaker 1: five different guys walk up there and have problems with
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: the mound.
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  Speaker 2: Good point.
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  Speaker 1: They had McGill come out and had finally some service
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: man come over and rake that thing and dump a
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: bunch of diamond dust here and try to hammer the
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  Speaker 1: clay back in. But my man picked up like a,
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  Speaker 1: it looked like my notepad here.
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  Speaker 2: It was bigger. Of a wood chip. It was big
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  Speaker 2: as my board.
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  Speaker 1: That would be my bigger concern that is not in
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: your control, Drew. He's always had problems with that landing
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  Speaker 1: spot and mound. I want that tested very early here today,
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  Speaker 1: and that could be my only.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Rasmussen's only 6'1, so they're not going to be
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  Speaker 1: stepping in.
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  Speaker 2: The same hole. They touched the same spot. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: touching the same hole.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-uh.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: They're not. So, tamp it down, get it ready. But again,
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  Speaker 2: nobody does.
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  Speaker 1: So, all these other mounds that, again, you don't see,
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  Speaker 1: if he's not on it, a lot of times these
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  Speaker 1: teams and grounds crew members aren't going to keep that
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  Speaker 1: spot as normal for landing spots because nobody's reaching as
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: far as he does.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: You bat in the seventh inning of a softball game,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: especially if they're the fourth game of the night, you
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: got some craters that you're stepping in, right?
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Especially at 39th and Burnham over here, you know, it
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: West Milwaukee Park Burnham Park when you're playing the Milwaukee.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: League media league with usher Mike is the umpire.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: No you're right I mean Billy that's a great point
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I mean that he took a chunk out of that
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: earth like it was crazy last night and I just
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: remember it was Angel Stadium where Miz was first having
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: those issues talking about how bad the mound was and
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah something last year in Cincinnati I don't think
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: he got out of the first inning because he was
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: kicking around the dirt the whole time stuff like that
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: something quirky like that you worry about And I guess
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: if the pressure's off for the race because they're down,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we're just going to go for it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: In a way, it could affect it, I guess. Who's
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: more likely to pitch tonight, D.L.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Hall or Brandon Woodruff? That's a good question. William, I'll
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: let you answer first. Who are you talking to saying
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: that name? I think, yeah, sorry. I would say D.L.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Hall.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I'd love to say Woodruff. But I think you saw that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I think you got what he wants. And maybe he's
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: available in game six. Maybe if it would be an
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: extra inning situation back home. But I just don't know
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: how he's ready to give you 20 pitches again.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I hope that
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: arm is as good as ever.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that I'm thinking he's getting anything
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: more than one more additional spot. And I think that's
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: got to be game six. Yeah, I think it's DL. Also,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: because it's a lefty matchup, you might need a lefty.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: And he's more used to giving you multiple kind of
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: innings or multiple, you know, more length. So I don't
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: think going back to back. Hall threw 24 last night. Yeah,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: you can go back to back. That's an inning and two-thirds.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Woodruff is all in uncharted territory right now. So you
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: don't really know what to expect. Can you imagine if
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Woody would have came out last night? All of a sudden,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the Drew show, they're like, yeah, you know what? We're
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: not messing around with a lefty and a rookie that's
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: never been there. Woody has not pitched on back-to-back days
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: in 10 years. We still feel more confident about him.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Cooper Pratt talking to the boys on MLB Network right now.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Your boy Bob Nightingale just had a sweet picture of him, though.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Rookie sensation, Cooper Pratt. Before game five, how's he spending
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: all those nerves? I think he just had a more
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: nervous situation when he asked Ken Griffey Jr.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: one of his heroes, for an autographed baseball. Nice.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Game five of the World Series. You're 22 years old.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: What's the number one thing you're trying to do before
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: game five? I'm trying to get that guy's autograph.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Junior. Let's go.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: That's an amazing picture as he's standing over there like
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: any kid would be having their hero sign a baseball.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: That's just wild.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Time for a little Who's Hot, Who's Not brought to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: us by Donovan Jorgensen Heating and Cooling HVAC.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Experts, employee-owned DonovanJorgensen.com. The website. Billy, who are you liking?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I got a little who's hot, who's not update for
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: your injury report. If folks didn't know, the Packers play
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: a big game coming up tomorrow. And we did have
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: three guys ruled out earlier on, which are going to
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: make some very interesting conversations coming up for tomorrow night's game.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Out, Zaire Franklin. I expected that. He's got a hairline
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: fracture in his shin. Out, Sean Ryan.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: We know that he's got a high ankle sprain, did
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: not participate all throughout the week. The one that is
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: maybe a little more surprising, DNP for the third straight day,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: right guard Travis Glover.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: He is listed as out. Are we sure it's Mr.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Zeitler?
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Or could it be Aaron Banks?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Or could it be Lincoln Tomlinson as your right guard
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Banks back at his normal left guard spot?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Warm-ups for the offensive line maybe has never been more
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: enticing and intriguing. Coming up as tomorrow night, the Packers
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: take on the Panthers in a game you feel like
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: you gotta win. A team that just comes in after
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: giving up 253 yards on the ground to the Buccaneers.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Four days ago.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: And you have Josh Jacobs playing his first game in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: 2026 on Lambeau field turf.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Good time to get Kevin Zeitler in there to be
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: able to run behind. But we'll see. We'll see. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: excited to see. The other ones are questionables.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Limited participant for the second straight day, Anthony Campbell, Brenton Cox,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: as well as questionable D.Y. Devontae Wyatt logged a limited
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: participation in their walkthrough today as well. He is listed
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: as questionable. All three of those guys up front on
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, they probably need. But good news here
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: is that Matthew Golden also listed as questionable.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: He did return.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: To practice technically today on the walkthrough, but it is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a very much question as they walk into tomorrow. Will
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: they have Matthew Golden or not? Matt LaFleur was.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Asked about it. He said, we'll see. Well, thanks, Coach.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Who's hot? Who's not? Not that answer of
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: we'll see. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Not hot.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Anybody going to the game tomorrow night because you're going
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to watch the Packers and Panthers the day after the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Brewers win the World Series.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: That'd be pretty sweet. Should be a fun way to celebrate.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Make for a special tailgate party. Who's not hot?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: The Miami Heat, the Brooklyn Nets, the New Orleans Pelicans.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: The Sacramento Kings, all winless on this NBA season.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And talk about winless. Who's hot?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, keeping his job as the play caller for
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the winless Los Angeles Chargers.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Coming out of there by Jim Harbaugh said, yeah, he's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: our play caller. He's not moving. That's wild. I would
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: have thought for sure he'd be bounced.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And final one, who's not hot? All of us that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: love Inside the NBA.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Who's hot? The legend, the icon, Milwaukee's own Ernie Johnson.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: The legend.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: As he announced on his social media a couple hours
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: ago that this is his final year hosting Inside the NBA.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Let everyone know. It was his decision. He said it
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: was just time.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: 70-year-old Johnson said he will continue NCAA men's basketball tournament
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: coverage on CBS and Turner. And he is also working
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: more on his 32 bow ties production company that focuses
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: on more heartwarming stories.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: In all of sports. So he's doing a little shifting.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: But last year on Inside the NBA, that's who's not
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: for all of us. Because that means that we are now,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: the clock is officially ticking on how many times we
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: get to watch the greatest sports television show ever put together.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: No question.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: All right. When we come back, this run, this Brewers
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: run is about the fans and the longtime fans. getting
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to the front of the line. There are few fans
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: more passionate than our pal, Trenny Casey, NBC Sports Boston.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: She's in town wanting to party with her people.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And she's going to.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Join us next from an undisclosed location.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: You're in the huddle, Fox Sports.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: The last game that'll be played in Tampa this year,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: no matter what. We are talking about it, getting ready
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: for it. We're savoring this whole experience. And as we
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: said before, it's about the true fans. And on line one,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the NicoletLaw.com talk and text line, a true fan, our
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: pal Trenny Casey, by way of Muskego, Marquette, and NBC
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Sports in Boston, is in Milwaukee to be with her
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: people during this wonderful time. She was at games one
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and two. She's here to party with people hoping to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: clinch tonight. Trenny, thank you for joining us. Welcome back
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to the good land.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Guys, I'm so tired.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I'm so tired, but.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm so excited. I haven't slept this little,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and I don't know how long, between the NLCS and this,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: and obviously the NLCS, but that felt like it was
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: so quick. Even the NLCS, I was like, oh my God,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I'm up every night. The games were so late. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: need them to win tonight so I can sleep again.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at least you're on the Central Time Zone.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you sickos on East Coast time
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: have to do it and watch these games.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: My wife said the same thing to me this morning, Trenny.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: She said, I just need them to win so I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: can sleep.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I just needed to happen.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: So I haven't gone to bed before nine o'clock in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: like three weeks. That has never happened to me before.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So it would be nice, not only just the intensity,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: but to be able to take back the normal hours.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But one extra night, maybe at a local establishment, celebrate
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: with the locals. It's a good way to celebrate your
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: return to the.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Good land, right?
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was back and forth, back and forth. Do
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I fly to Tampa and try to go to Tampa
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: and get tickets there? Or do I come home and
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: watch it with my family? So yesterday I watched with
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: some good friends from here. My sister and my niece
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: came down, old college friends. So that was awesome. Tonight,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: my mom and dad, my aunt, uncle, my brother, my sister-in-law,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: we're all going out. We're all going to watch it together.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: We're going to do it in the third ward. I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: super excited. And then I just thought about it. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: was like, it would be so fun to spill out
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: into the streets of Milwaukee if they win. And honestly,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I was going to come back to Milwaukee anyway because
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I have tickets to game six and seven tonight. So
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: if for some reason they wouldn't wrap it up in Tampa,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: then I'd have to get back to Milwaukee anyway. And
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, at some point I have to stop
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: hemorrhaging money. This is not the time. We'll at least
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: cut a little bit of money out by not spending
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: like $ 1, 000 on a ticket. in Tampa and like two more,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: three more airlines.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Just spend it at Joe Katz
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: on a celebration.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's, it's running neck and neck, but I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: think he can get into the trap tonight cheaper than
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you can get into American family field for the Brewers
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: official launch party.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's getting close.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, really? I didn't look. I've actually been checking. It's
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: funny because I've just been curious, like what they get
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: in the door prices. in Tampa, because for game three,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: it was super cheap. It was like 350 bucks or
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: something you could get in the door. Yesterday was more
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: like eight to 900. I don't know some people who
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: didn't want to sit in like really crummy seats. So
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: they paid like a little over a thousand for their tickets.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: But I didn't look to see what it is. the
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Brewers do something about people reselling their tickets. They don't
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: control the universe. There's something they can do. But I
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: do think it's pretty crummy that people are reselling $ 15
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: viewing tickets. That's a chance for a family who can't
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: afford to go to an actual game to be in
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the stadium and do it. It's a nice family-friendly atmosphere.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: And now you're trying to gouge people at $ 250 a ticket.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: There's a special place in hell.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that serious. I agree with Trenny.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Is it that bad? It's like scalping tickets to family
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: night at Lambeau.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: They're scalping tickets for like $ 15 tickets for like $ 300, Armin.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the market's rate.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: How would people have reacted given the way the secondary
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: market is if the brewers had put these tickets up
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and it was $ 100 instead of $ 15? They could have
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: done that. They could have because people are buying them
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: for $ 300. Or they could have sectioned it more.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're saying, Trenny, but everyone
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: wants to be part of it right now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Right now, for getting the doors.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I get it. I get it. But it's also a
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: money-making thing. Like, I don't mind it as much for
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: the actual game because you're paying for, like, you pay
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: a premium for premium events, right? Like, and you are
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: actually going to be in the building when something happens. But, like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: to me, to Drew's point, like, a viewing party at
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the stadium is supposed to be for families, right? But
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: to me, when you only charge $ 15 to get in
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: the door, that is saying, hey, we know everybody can't
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: afford to come watch an actual game, but we're going
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: to make it this amazing family thing. So that's why
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I don't like it. You can charge how much ever
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: you want for your actual game tickets. Like, that doesn't
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: bother me.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I agree about the bots. If it wasn't for the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: bots and stuff. If it's like transfer to transfer, I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm seeing get in the door price right
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: now at the trop under $ 300. $ 288 cheapest on SeatGeek.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Cheapest in the lower bowl is $ 450.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Shut up.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Stop it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Yes. Oh, yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Don't get on the plane. You're here now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: A lot of Wisconsin people only plan to go to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: three and four. That's right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: That's right. You want to be here. You want to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: be a Joe Cass. You want to be a Joe Cass.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Trenny Casey joining us. Trenny, what's it like watching the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: game with you? Are you stoic and reserved like a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: media member? Are you full on, full throated Brewers fan?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, full-throated. My voice is recovered. When I went
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: back to work on Monday, a guy at work was like, hey,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: are you coming down with something? And I was like, no, dummy.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I'm a Brewers fan. Everybody knows I was X Games
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: 1 and 2. I was screaming my head off. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: had the time of my life. It was so much
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: fun to be in the building and get to see
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: so many people. True, I'm bummed that I didn't get
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: to see you. I thought maybe I'd see you at
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: the ballpark.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I know. I should have looked for you. You weren't
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: far from me either.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: You know what? I was actually like right. So the
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: seats that I got are right below where the auxiliary
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: media is. Because you guys are like an ex-golf, right?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. On the club level.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Is that where auxiliary media is?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Ex-golf and adjacent. The patio adjacent. Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I'm one level below you. We were in 232.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I should have come looking for you. Because I knew
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you were by the Sutton family.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I was, right in front of the Sutton family.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Right in front of Steph.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: We have the Brewers lineup tonight. Murph didn't get the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: memo from me to drop Jake Bowers out of the two-hole.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Come on, Pat. Churio Bowers, Yelich.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I know, I would have moved him. He's really struggling.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Contreras, Terang, Freelick, Pratt, Mitchell, Hamilton. Is your lineup behind
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Miz tonight? So Sal keeps moving up is what I read.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Sal's moving up in Cooper. But Cooper, I mean, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: if you just react.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I do wonder though, Drew. Like part of me wonders like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: is he just hopeful that Bowers just gets back to
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: his like being a little more judicious with how he
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: like his at-bats and working like a classic at-bat. Not
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: so much that he's going to come through with like
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: a big home run or a big hit. And does
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: he like stacking the bottom of the lineup with his
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: best hitters? I know that's sort of counterintuitive, but not
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: your best hitters. But guys who can actually do something.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: The thing that I think has separated the Brewers from
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: other teams is that when you get to other teams' 7, 8,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: 9 hole, it's near automatic out. With the Brewers, there's
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: no real automatic out in the lineup. So I don't know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a message with Madness.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: That's what it would seem, he does like having the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: speed at the bottom, and it reminds me of, you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Hamilton's like a second leadoff hitter in front of Churio,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you want Churio, you want him there, because if Hamilton
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: gets on, it's almost like every single he gets is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a double, because he can steal second, and if any
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of those guys get on in front of him, he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: not a great punter, as Murph will continually tell you,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: but he's the willing one, and we'll put it down,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and if you can get anybody in scoring position in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: front of Babe Churio right now, it's probably the best opportunity,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: it's probably a good call.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: That is a good call.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I just feel like some days guys are going to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: hit or they're not. So he's going to be in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the lineup. He's going to be in the lineup. That's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the thing, Trenny, for last night, everybody focusing on Drohan
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: and Ortiz's error, but it was the law firm of Bowers, Yelich, Contreras, Terang,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and Mitchell that went 0 for 22 that doomed them
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to their.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Fate last night.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, listen, that's the heart of your order.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: And when they have an off night, there's just not
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: a lot you can do, right? There's just... I don't know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I feel like... When they scored 10 runs in game three,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I rushed to change my plane ticket to come home,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: come back to Milwaukee from Boston. And I was like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: you know what, they're probably not going to win game
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: four because I feel like every time a team scores
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: a bunch of runs, the next game they play is
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: like they cannot hit the broad side of the bar.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I just had this feeling. It's like you use up
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: all your hits in one game.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something to be said for that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: The old dad joke of they should have saved a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: couple for yesterday was an easy one to rip out
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: in the sixth inning. Trenny, people tell stories about, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I get it, David Ortiz is sitting on the sideline.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He's doing the games for Fox.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: People act like the comeback against the Yankees that the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Red Sox had never happens all the time.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I know Kevin.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Millar had the statement of don't let us win tonight.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And he's walking around doing the MLB Network one. But
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: being in Boston, do people talk about it all the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: time like people do at this moment? Or is it
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: something that people are right now? We use this word
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and I think it's very apropos. Wisconsin fans somewhat fetishize
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the losses in these big games, the big collapse. We
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like to talk about them and say it always happens.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It's coming already. I have people ask us where we're
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: at in the Seattle NFC title game right now from
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: last night. Like this would be the John Ryan fake
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: punt touchdown. But does it get discussed in lore as
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: much in Boston or not that they've won so much?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Is it just another little foot anecdotes part.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Of the story?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: See, it's a foot anecdote, because it was, like, it
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: was so important to their franchise. Like, they had gone
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: to the World Series. I mean, Drew, you remember this
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: better than I. Because, like, you know, they went, obviously,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: in 86. And did they even go again after 86?
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: That was it. Where they lost to the Mets, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: then not again until 04. But prior to that, they
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: had some opportunities, like, in the 60s, and then again
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: in the 80s, to, like, make some hay. So, like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the 86-year drought from the trade of Babe Ruth, like...
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: People still talk about how they came back and how
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: monumental a moment that was for not just the Red Sox,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: but for the city of Boston and all the other
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: sports teams. But it's not like how... I mean, they've
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: won three others since then, but that's still the most
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: talked about. No one ever talked about 07. 07 feels like...
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I forget that the Red Sox won the World
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Series in 07. That's true.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. But, yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Well, it's all happened. Also, Armin, it was like, I
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: don't know, like, I couldn't even tell you. I know
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: they beat the Colorado Rockies.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Who were on, like, long rest.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rocktober.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: But, like, I don't, like... Yeah, that was kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: a meh. People talk about this, who wants to watch
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: the race in the brewery? It's like, no offense, but
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think I really gave a crap about the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Red Sox Rockies back in 07. But on the flip side,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: people talk a lot about 2013. That felt like a
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: team of destiny because the marathon bombing had happened in April.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And David Ortiz was like, they carried the city and
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: this is our bleeping city. People even talk less about 2018.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: And that team was a wagon. The 2018 Red Sox won,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I think they won 108 regular season games. And then
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: they beat the Dodgers in five games in the World Series.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: And I kept saying, and I think Drew were texting
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: about this today, but last night when we were watching...
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: The game, I was like, God, this reminds me, when
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: they were in extras, I was like, this reminds me
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: so much of the Red Sox 18 run. Because I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: remember they had, I thought they had that really long game.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I thought it was game four, but it actually was
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: game three, and the Red Sox were up 2-0. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers were trying to get back in it. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: they depleted their pitching. And that didn't just affect game four.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: It also affected game five. The trickle-down effect of the
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Dodgers having to put all their eggs in the game
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: three basket had long ramifications for the rest of that series.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: And I kind of feel that way. Last night when
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: this was happening, my husband, who is the most wonderful
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: human on the planet, and it's just like, go do
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: what you need to go. I'll stay back with the dogs.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Go enjoy yourself. said, oh my gosh, are you okay?
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: How are you doing after this loss? And I was like, honestly,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I kind of thought coming. The whole time it felt
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: like it's okay. They've still set themselves up, I think,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: to be in a really good position with these last
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: three games.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I don't think there'll be three more games. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: don't think so.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: By the way, the 0-4 Red Sox, the comeback, it
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: was predicated. You had your Bucky Bleep and Dent moment
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: where the Yankees stole their lunch money in the 70s.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And then the year before was the Aaron Bleeping Boone
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: home run.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Game seven.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: 11th inning of game seven, they lost a chance to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: go to the World Series with a good team. So
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that was like a cathartic payoff. And I also think
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the rivalry factor adds a different pucker.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Factor that there can't be in this situation. Maybe I'm wrong.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: A thousand percent. So here the Brewers are.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: If you want like a Red Sox Brewers comparison, I
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: would look more at the Brewers beating the Dodgers. as
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: akin to the Red Sox coming back down 3-0-3 to
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: beat the Yankees. Because the Yankees had been a... I mean,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: those two teams were battling it out. It's like, you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: the evil empire of the Yankees to like... I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: you know, Boston's kind of seen... Kind of the Milwaukee
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: of the East Coast to New York, like Milwaukee is
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: to Chicago. That's Boston to New York City. New Yorkers
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: kind of turned their nose down on Boston. It's not
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: a real city, right? And so to me, that's how
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers fans and people looked at the Brewers. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: to me, that's a more accurate comparison in that series,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: those series than this.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: All right, Trenny, on the way out here, what are
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: your thoughts about Miz? You saw him pitch in game one.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: He hasn't been himself in the postseason, really. He hasn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: been as dominant as he was on a Tuesday night
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in July. But he's still pretty good. What are you
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: expecting out of him? Our thing here, I think we
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: all agree that he's got to get him 18 outs.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: He's got to get him through six, no matter how.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But he's got to get him through six. What is
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: your expectation for Miz tonight?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see him get through at least five.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: If he can get on six, that is unbelievable. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I'd like at least five. I actually didn't mind how
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: he looked in game one of the World Series. I
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: know his velocity was down, but his location was better.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And I said to my brother, I went to a
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: big game with my brother, and my brother was like,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: oh my God, he's only hitting 100 or 101. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, I honestly think that's by design.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Because he's reaching.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Back and hitting 103, 104 when he has to. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: in the CS, in the LCS, he was throwing such
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: gas that he wasn't locating his pitch. To me, he
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: pitched in game one, he didn't throw. And that, to me,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: is the difference. The Miz that was good this year, yeah,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: he threw heat. That's obviously a big part of his game.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But part of the maturation of him and why he
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: was better this year and why he's probably going to
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: be the NL Cy Young winner, it's partially because he
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: throws 105 miles an hour. But it's a bigger part
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: to me that he was able to locate his pitches.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: He wasn't throwing 30 pitches in the first inning and
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: only making four innings. I felt like he was getting
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: a smarter, more well-rounded pitcher this year. And so to me,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: if he can go out and kind of replicate what
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: he did in game one, I think they're going to
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: be in pretty good shape.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I think so, too. Who's your MVP?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Don't try to throw that speedball by him.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: There you go. Nice Bruce reference for Murph. I love it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I love it. Trini, who do you got for MVP
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: if the Brewers were to wrap it tonight?
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Do you know who I want to see and who
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I thought should have been the LCS MVP? Aaron bleeping Ashby.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I might put like 20 bucks on Aaron Ashby who's
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: like plus 3,000 right now. If he goes out there
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: tonight again and shuts them down, how do you not
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: name a guy that has single handedly helped you win
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: every single game in the series? And the series before that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Somebody on this show fully agrees with you. That was
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: why the $ 26 investment on Aaron Ashby to win the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: World Series MVP happened last night. I think he's been
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: way too dynamic and way too special to not be
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in the case, but we'll see. Hopefully, the good champagne
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: prompts to happen. You know, who knows?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It was Frank Peralta in the ALCS, so why can't
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: it be Aaron Apkin?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. Totally. Trenny, thank you for joining us.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Let's enjoy this ride. Stick in town. Hopefully the Brewers
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: will win and you can be in town for the parade.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I'll text you later because hopefully we can meet up.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I want to see you. Definitely. See you later tonight.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Bye, buddy.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Trenny Casey, NBC Sports Boston number one Brewers fan in
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the Boston area.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Gotta be. That is so, so good. You are in
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. 920. Mitchell Berman.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Game five tonight. Packers, Panthers, tomorrow night we'll be having
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: our attention. In fact, we only have a one-hour show tomorrow.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And that's good.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Very excited, too, because hopefully we can celebrate for a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: hot hour. Brewers World Series championship and then get you
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: over to Packers football and conversation but Drew I almost
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: just got caught as I am I'm definitely into this
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Packers Panthers game because there's some revenge on the mind
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of the Packers from a year ago also I mean
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: this wraps up the second quarter of the season and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you very sneakily could come out of it three and
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: one Three wins against the NFC, albeit a frustrating loss
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: against the Lions, but very, very big for playoff positioning.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: But it's got caught again.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: This Matt and Mike LaFleur thing is really, really throwing
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: me off on news, especially when in the Twitter space,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: everything is very quick and just one-liners. LaFleur, love will
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: be limited today on the practice field.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Wait, what?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: What?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I miss the LeFleur RB. Love will be limited in
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: practice today. Hashtag Arizona versus Dallas. I remember this summer
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: thinking that's going to confuse me a lot this year
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: at the worst time. And this is the first example.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I already got heartburn all day.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Right, I know. It would be really nice if this
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: would not happen. Just drop of the hat at any moment.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in a quick call. 877-794-1973. Bob is on
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the NicoletLaw.com talking text line. What's up, Bob? From San Francisco. Bob,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: welcome to the huddle.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm following the Brewers. They remind me so much
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: of the Giants 10, 12, 14 when they won the
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: World Series. Bruce Bochy was a great coach. The team
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: just played so well together. They played smart. I'm following
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: the Brewers because the Giants were one of the worst
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: teams ever in Major League Baseball last season. It was
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: a horrible, horrible season. Since I'm a sports nut, 84
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: years of age, I've played every sport known to mankind.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I've played a little professional ball and all that bullshit,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: but it was... It's always fun to follow great teams
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: and the Brewers. I'm watching them and I'm saying to myself, God,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: they remind me so much of the Giants when they
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: won the World Series.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: We'll take a three World Series in six years.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Bob.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I would take that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Also, the thought of three and five years, I just
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: got captivated with the idea. Those teams were really young initially,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they grew into like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the veteran elder statesman. And it was kind of just
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: a big old core of guys on that Giants crew.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Look what you did.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: And Matt Vaskersian was kind enough to be a guest
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: on the Beyond the Booth podcast with me and Wayne Larrabee.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Wayne Larrabee and me. Wayne Larrabee, da-da-da-da-da-da, then me. But
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: he said that too. We were kicking that around. Like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: they're going to be good for a while.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: They're not losing anybody. They got these guys wrapped up.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And how good, as good as Trio is now, how
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: good is he going to be in five years when
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: he's 27? Yeah, and how good is that middle infield
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: going to be if you got a kid that's 22
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: years old hitting almost go-ahead clinching home runs in the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: World Series when Jesus Madea is the one tag teaming
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: him with the double play tandem?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Like, they got guys coming in.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: What that, you know, Giants team did as well is
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: they recycled dudes in and out, right? Like, they had
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the first one was the Kane and Lincecum. By the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: end of it, it was Mad Bum as the main attraction.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that's a fascinating one also would have loved to ask
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: bob if part of the reason yeah the murph and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: bocce connection you love sports i know he played every
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: game under the sun.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I bet he was a dog too i bet bob
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: was ripping you can tell bob was a dog bob knew.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: What was up um but also if uh when the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: brewers just swept the dodgers out of office earth i
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: wonder how much the nl west was like that Might
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: be my second favorite team now. I think they've been
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: terrorized by those guys in blue for far too long.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Giants and Dodgers is a real rivalry.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And I assume that that NLCS may have captivated his
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: fandom too. That's an interesting group because you don't ever
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: hear them talked about as like dynasty, but that's three
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and five years because all those titles were kind of unique.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They also missed the playoffs in between each one.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: It was Posey, then it was Pablo Sandoval, Kung Fu Panda,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: then I think like Brandon Crawford.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: It was kind of a random collection of titles. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: with Madison Bumgarner.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with obviously all the pitchers. So Kane, I don't know.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I think they should be pretty thankful. Well, what they
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: also did have was a future Hall of Fame backstop.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And maybe the crew should keep their guy. Good one.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: When we come back, Shanna Quinn is going to drop
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: on by. I haven't seen her in a while. You
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: guys welcomed her last week when I was out.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: You are in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.