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Undeniable: Five True UFO Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: is called Undeniable Five True UFO Encounters. So today I
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Speaker 1: want to focus on cases that I think are undeniable,
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Speaker 1: and by that I mean cases with a lot of evidence,
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Speaker 1: cases with a lot of witnesses. And I have only
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Speaker 1: five cases today because each of these are really extensive
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Speaker 1: and do contain a lot of evidence, including landing traces,
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Speaker 1: electromagnetic disturbances, animal reactions, physiological evidence, and more. The cases
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Speaker 1: I'm presenting today come from across the United States, but
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Speaker 1: one is from Canada. They have a lot of witnesses.
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Speaker 1: These are absolutely undeniable cases, So I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's important that people recognize there is evidence to support
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Speaker 1: the reality of UFOs. It always makes me kind of
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Speaker 1: shake my head and people say, where's the evidence. I've
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Speaker 1: said it many times, but it's worth repeating. The best
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Speaker 1: evidence we have is the huge number of cases. It's
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Speaker 1: undeniable that this is a true phenomena. Anyone who takes
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Speaker 1: even the briefest look at the evidence can only come
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Speaker 1: away convinced. Presuming you know they can do this objectively.
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Speaker 1: But these five cases I think alone presents enough evidence
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Speaker 1: to prove the reality of UFOs and extraterrest real visitations
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Speaker 1: on our planet. So that's the theme of today's show.
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Speaker 1: I hope you find it interesting. There's some really remarkable
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Speaker 1: landing cases, missing time encounter, all different kinds of encounters
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Speaker 1: that are absolutely undeniable. So the first case I like
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Speaker 1: to talk about today is I call UFO landing at
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Speaker 1: South Hill, Verse, Virginia. This one created a huge uproar
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Speaker 1: in the UFO community. The debunkers came out in full force,
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Speaker 1: I think because it has such good evidence to it.
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Speaker 1: As we'll see, this one occurred on April twenty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, of course, in South Hill, Virginia, a
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Speaker 1: small little town, but boy, something happened there on that
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Speaker 1: day that put that town on the map. The primary
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Speaker 1: witness in this case is a gentleman by the name
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Speaker 1: of Clifton Crowder, who at the time of this encounter
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Speaker 1: was the manager and former owner of the Mobile Chemical
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Speaker 1: Fertilizer plant. Also a veteran of the Air Force from
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Speaker 1: World War Two, so he was an active member of
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Speaker 1: this small town of South Hill, Virginia, which then had
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Speaker 1: a population of about three thousand people. He was very
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Speaker 1: well respected and in fact, Sergeant Cecil Rains of the
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Speaker 1: Virginia State Police said, Prouder is the finest man in
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Speaker 1: our area. Now, the evening of April twenty first, nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty seven, whatever profound impact on Clifton's life and really
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Speaker 1: the whole town. On that evening, he had worked until
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Speaker 1: about nine pm. He was just leaving the mobile plant
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Speaker 1: to drive the short distance to his home. He turned
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Speaker 1: off the little dirt road and onto the paved surface
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Speaker 1: of Feral Road. It was paved with macadam. This will
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Speaker 1: be an important detail, as we'll see, and I'll just
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Speaker 1: let Clifton Crowder describe what happened in his own words.
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Speaker 1: As he says, when I hit the hard surface, I
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Speaker 1: saw the huge craft on the road. It had a shiny,
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Speaker 1: metallic appearance and was highly reflective. My immediate reaction was
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Speaker 1: to throw my lights up on high beam so I
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Speaker 1: could see what it was. I saw the craft clearly
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Speaker 1: for at least five seconds. It was about half the
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Speaker 1: height of a large metal storage tank, perhaps twelve feet
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Speaker 1: in diameter and fifteen to twenty feet high. It seemed
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Speaker 1: to be sitting on legs about three feet high. Suddenly
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Speaker 1: there was a blinding flash of white fire from the
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Speaker 1: bottom of the thing. I don't remember hearing any sound
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Speaker 1: at all. I thought I saw the craft go up
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Speaker 1: from the ground, But all of this happened vast and
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Speaker 1: the intense light may have blinded me for an instant.
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Speaker 1: When I was over the surprise, I bent down and
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Speaker 1: looked up through the windshield. I didn't see anything in
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Speaker 1: the sky except the moon and some clouds, but there
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Speaker 1: was a fire on the road directly beneath the place
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Speaker 1: where the craft had been. It looked as if something
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Speaker 1: had ignited the MacAdam's surface. The fire must have burned
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Speaker 1: for about twenty seconds while I was making up my
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Speaker 1: mind to go by. Finally it began to die down,
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Speaker 1: and I headed for the town police station. I felt
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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be a responsible citizen without reporting what
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Speaker 1: I saw. Unbelievable though it may have been, it was
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Speaker 1: just a funny feeling. You can imagine how it felt
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Speaker 1: to see a big thing like that sitting in the
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Speaker 1: road in front of you, and all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: a ball of fire flies out and it disappears it
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Speaker 1: went straight up in the air like a bullet. It
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Speaker 1: was just a flash and it was gone. And when
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Speaker 1: I had my bright lights on, I got a perfect
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Speaker 1: look at it. So yeah, this was apparently a metallic
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Speaker 1: craft which reminded him of a sort of metal tank,
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Speaker 1: and off it went very quickly, So although it was
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Speaker 1: a brief sighting, he did get a good look at it.
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Speaker 1: He says. This object was no more than three hundred
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Speaker 1: feet from him, and he arrived at the police station
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Speaker 1: at precisely nine four pm. He told the officers what
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Speaker 1: had happened, and they returned to the scene with him,
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Speaker 1: and shortly later two other officers came up. The burnt
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Speaker 1: spot on the road was plainly visible, and in fact
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Speaker 1: was still hot. They measured it. It was three and
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Speaker 1: a half feet long, about two feet wide, and Clifton
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Speaker 1: personally was glad to see it because it proved that
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Speaker 1: he had not imagined this sighting. Now at this point
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Speaker 1: he's offering no conclusion about what he saw. He wondered,
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Speaker 1: actually if it might have been quote, some object the
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Speaker 1: government is experimenting with and the general public knows nothing about.
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Speaker 1: So this is when the investigation began. Clifton the next
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Speaker 1: day went to the home of Norman Martin, who lived
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Speaker 1: about twelve hundred feet away from the spot where he
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Speaker 1: had seen this craft. He's the closest house to it.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just let Clifton describe what happened. As Clifton
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Speaker 1: says in his own words, I asked Norman if he'd
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Speaker 1: heard or seen anything unusual around nine the night before.
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Speaker 1: Norman said he had. He'd been standing in his backyard
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he noticed the biggest burst
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Speaker 1: of light he'd ever seen. It cast a light on
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Speaker 1: an oak tree just a few feet down the road
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Speaker 1: from where I saw the craft. Norman told me it
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Speaker 1: was so bright he could have shot a bird right
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Speaker 1: out of the tree if he'd wanted to. That's pretty
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Speaker 1: bright at about four hundred yards. So. Later researchers did
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Speaker 1: find other witnesses. They learned that Linda Clark, another resident
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Speaker 1: who lived nearby, said that at the time of the incident,
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Speaker 1: she saw an intense flash of light, and so apparently
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Speaker 1: did her young child, who had been found asleep in
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Speaker 1: bed but woke up and cried out in surprise. And
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Speaker 1: as it turned out, there were quite a few witnesses.
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Speaker 1: Five South Hill residents said that they saw strange lights
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Speaker 1: around nine thirty and they were talking back and forth
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Speaker 1: about it on their CB radios. They described it as
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Speaker 1: a red glowing sphere which was changing in color from
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Speaker 1: orange to yellow, was dropping down to treetop level, coming
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Speaker 1: back up, appearing to divide into two objects, which came
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Speaker 1: back together and dropped down again. They then came back
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Speaker 1: up and now there were three objects. One of the men,
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Speaker 1: Roy Edmunds, stopped his car and tried to call the
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Speaker 1: police from his home, but it was weird. His phone
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Speaker 1: was strangely not operating, so he went back out and
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Speaker 1: he could see this cluster of lights still moving up
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Speaker 1: and down. And there were more witnesses around eight thirty pm,
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Speaker 1: an hour before the five South Hill residents with the radios,
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Speaker 1: and a half hour prior to Clifton Crowder's report, South
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Speaker 1: Hill police dispatcher Norman Ball and four others so that
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Speaker 1: they saw quote a pinkish ball of fire which was
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Speaker 1: moving around at tree top level. They said it was
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Speaker 1: stationary at first, then moved slowly away and disappeared behind
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Speaker 1: a hill. Now, several members of the Fort Lee Fire
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Speaker 1: Department said that around nine to fifteen pm they saw
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Speaker 1: two strange red lights revolving in the sky for about
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Speaker 1: five minutes. This is just fifty miles east of South Hill, Virginia.
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Speaker 1: One of them, James Jakos, described how they saw this
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Speaker 1: light descend to an altitude of about six hundred feet,
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Speaker 1: then it came straight at them, turned ninety degrees and
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Speaker 1: moved slowly towards the northeast, and there were still more witnesses.
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Speaker 1: Police Chief Bill Williams of Lacrosse, which is just three
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Speaker 1: miles southeast of South Hill, he said that he and
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Speaker 1: several other officers saw five what looked like star like
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Speaker 1: lights rising up from the ground in the South Hill
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Speaker 1: area and moving to the northeast, and Police Chief Bill
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Speaker 1: Williams actually got his cruiser and chased one of these
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Speaker 1: lights for about two miles, racing up to seventy five
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Speaker 1: miles per hour. He said the object he chased was
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Speaker 1: at about tree top level and he said quote that
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Speaker 1: he has never seen anything like that. So back to
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Speaker 1: Clifton Crowder's event. As the police returned the next day
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Speaker 1: to investigate, they were looking at the road in the
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Speaker 1: burn spot and they found more evidence. They found four
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Speaker 1: small whole holes surrounding the burn spot. They were about
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Speaker 1: an inch deep, an inch and a half wide, or
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Speaker 1: rather a half inch wide, and spaced evenly in a
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Speaker 1: rectangular pattern about twelve feet apart. And they speculated that
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Speaker 1: these holes may have been caused by the landing legs
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Speaker 1: of the craft that Clifton had described. And there were
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Speaker 1: more weird events to follow. Who was just eighteen hours
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Speaker 1: after Clifton's sighting of this landed UFO on the road,
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Speaker 1: long before there was any publicity about it. Clifton said
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Speaker 1: he was approached by an Air Force colonel and a
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Speaker 1: sergeant who questioned him extensively about the sighting. Now, they
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Speaker 1: did a lot of investigating to find out who this
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Speaker 1: Air Force kernel was, and he has never been located.
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Speaker 1: But this story, this sighting started to go a lot
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Speaker 1: of attention, particularly because of the landing traces, and crowd
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Speaker 1: started to show up to take a look at it.
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Speaker 1: Newspaper reporters interviewed Clifton Crowder and articles began to appear
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Speaker 1: in various newspapers. This is when Jay Allen Heineck, who
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Speaker 1: was of course a consultant to Project Blue Book, the
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Speaker 1: Air Force UFO Study Project. I'll put that in quotes,
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Speaker 1: but Jay Allen Heinech heard about the encounter and he
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Speaker 1: couldn't come there himself, so he sent his assistant, William T. Powers,
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Speaker 1: to investigate. And William Powers began, of course, by interviewing
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Speaker 1: Clifton Crowder, and he was immediately impressed with his sincere testimony.
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Speaker 1: In fact, William Powers told the police quote, Prowder is
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Speaker 1: telling exactly what he saw. There's no reason to disbelieve. However,
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Speaker 1: I can't account for what he saw. So the police
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Speaker 1: really wanted to do some further investigation, and they tried
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Speaker 1: to see if they could duplicate the holes in the
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Speaker 1: pavement by forcing a half inch bolt into the macadam.
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Speaker 1: Of course, they couldn't do this, so they next tried
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Speaker 1: to reproduce the burn mark the heat source, and along
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Speaker 1: with William Powers, they tried first pouring kerosene onto the
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Speaker 1: road and lighting it with a blow torch, but it
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Speaker 1: wouldn't ignite without a wick. They also tried gasolene, and
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Speaker 1: while it did burn, it produced clouds of black smoke.
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Speaker 1: It streaked all over the place, and none of this
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Speaker 1: matched what Clifton said he saw. Furthermore, the gasolene burned
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Speaker 1: and wrote for about twenty minutes where Clifton said that
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Speaker 1: what he saw was about one minute of flames. And
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Speaker 1: as William Powers says, we investigated the idea of a hoax,
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Speaker 1: but we couldn't prove it. Now, William Powers did remove
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Speaker 1: samples of the burns spot on the road and sent
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Speaker 1: them off to probably guess where write Patterson Air Force
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Speaker 1: Base for analysis. Right. Patterson's of course UFO Central where
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Speaker 1: they study foreign aircraft. So that makes sense. But it's
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Speaker 1: certainly interesting because they did agree to I analyze this sample.
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Speaker 1: And it gets more interesting. The results were inconclusive. They
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Speaker 1: said while the macadam surface did show evidence of high heat,
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Speaker 1: there was no evidence of any fuel source, and doctor j.
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Speaker 1: Allen Heinek said that Crowder's experience quote defied explanation. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is when the debunkers started to come in and
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Speaker 1: rumors began to spread that three burned matches were found
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Speaker 1: at the site, laying neatly side by side. This report
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Speaker 1: came a few days after the investigation. There's no photo
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Speaker 1: evidence to back it up or any report on who
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Speaker 1: allegedly found these matches. I think personally that this is
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Speaker 1: an attempt to discredit Crowder's story. That's my personal speculation.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps matches were found. However, it made little difference in
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Speaker 1: the story itself, as the analysis of the road showed
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Speaker 1: no presence of the fuel accelerant, and there was still
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Speaker 1: the matter of the four evenly spaced holes surrounding the
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Speaker 1: burn spot, which could not be explained or easily hoaxed,
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Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that there were so many
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Speaker 1: witnesses to activity in this area at that time. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 1: famous debunker Philip Class devoted no less than nineteen pages
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Speaker 1: to this case in his book. UFOs explained and tried
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Speaker 1: very hard to label this incident as a hoax, but
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Speaker 1: he couldn't find anyone who could cast any dispersions on
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Speaker 1: the main witness, Clifton Crowder, whose reputation in the community
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Speaker 1: was sterling. There was some speculation that Clifton may have
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Speaker 1: been the victim of a prank, but again there was
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Speaker 1: no evidence of this whatsoever. Demunkers tried to focus on
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Speaker 1: the fact that this fertilizer factory had tanks next to it,
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Speaker 1: and that he had mistaken the object in the road
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Speaker 1: for one of the tanks, which makes zero sense. There
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Speaker 1: was also a theory being floated around that he had
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Speaker 1: seen ball lightning which fails to match even closely what
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Speaker 1: Crowder had seen, nor could explain the four holes in
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Speaker 1: the pavement, nor the many other sightings other people had reported.
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Speaker 1: So ultimately, the Air Force Project Blue Book labeled this
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Speaker 1: case case number one one six seven seven as unexplained,
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Speaker 1: and today the case remains a mystery. And given the
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Speaker 1: huge number of eyewitnesses again who saw unexplained UFO activity
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Speaker 1: both before, during, and after Crowder's sighting, it seems undeniable
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Speaker 1: that something unexplained occurred. When debunkers attack a case like
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Speaker 1: this so viciously, to me, that definitely raises eyebrows. If
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Speaker 1: this is a hoax, as say Philip Class admits, why
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Speaker 1: is he spending so much attention to it just dismiss it?
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Speaker 1: I think this is because it's a valid case, and
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Speaker 1: it clearly is. With so many other witnesses who saw
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Speaker 1: UFO activity before and after Clifton Crowder saw this UFO
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Speaker 1: land in the middle of the road and leave these
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Speaker 1: absolutely undeniable landing traces. What a case, and there's so
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Speaker 1: many others. Here's another one that's definitely worth looking into.
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Speaker 1: It's not well known at all. I call this one
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Speaker 1: UFO lands at Iowa Farm, and this is actually a
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Speaker 1: cluster of incidents. There's a lot of activity going on
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Speaker 1: at this time in this area. This particular case occurred
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Speaker 1: on April sixth, nineteen seventy one, in Westgate, Iowa. And
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Speaker 1: I like this case because there are multiple witnesses from
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Speaker 1: separate areas who watch this UFO come down and land,
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Speaker 1: and of course it left landing traces, and there are
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Speaker 1: corroborating cases that occurred around that time in that area
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Speaker 1: as well, so it's a really remarkable series of events.
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Speaker 1: This next case is much more brief, but there's a
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Speaker 1: whole cluster of events that surround it. This one occurred
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Speaker 1: around ten pm again April sixth, nineteen seventy one, when
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Speaker 1: Don Ed, age seventeen, looked out his outside his home
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Speaker 1: in Westgate and saw this brilliant flash of light in
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Speaker 1: the sky followed by a red orange glowing object which
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Speaker 1: he watched drop down from the sky and appeared to
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Speaker 1: hover or land a short distance away, now unknown to him.
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Speaker 1: In a short distance away, Mike Potrats, age seventeen, was
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Speaker 1: in his house and he saw the same exact thing,
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Speaker 1: a flash followed by a brightly lit object coming down
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Speaker 1: for an apparent landing. So again this was at ten pm.
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Speaker 1: The next morning, both boys height to the location where
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Speaker 1: they had seen this object come in for a landing.
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Speaker 1: They had to go to school that day, but they
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Speaker 1: went before school, and where they had seen it come
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Speaker 1: in for landing was at a small farm owned by
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Speaker 1: James Bance. So they went to investigate, and they were
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Speaker 1: joined by Russell Bance. Don and Mike went to the
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Speaker 1: Bance farm and this is when they were amazed to
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Speaker 1: see this circular area of burned vegetation which was about
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Speaker 1: ten feet wide, and surrounding this circle of burned vegetation
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Speaker 1: were four smaller circles evenly spaced around the circumference. So
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Speaker 1: clearly an object containing a high heat source had landed
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Speaker 1: on the farm. That's all we know about that case.
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Speaker 1: But in confirmation of it is another case which occurred
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Speaker 1: on the very same evening, not far away in Asceola, Iowa.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just quote the anonymous witness directly. He reported
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Speaker 1: his case to UFO organizations and as he says, and
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Speaker 1: I quote, I was ten years old, Me and my
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Speaker 1: dad's friend were traveling down US Highway thirty four going
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Speaker 1: back to Murray Iowa. It was about eight o'clock PM.
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Speaker 1: I looked out the window at the stars. That's when
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Speaker 1: I noticed the disk. It was about four or five
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Speaker 1: feet in diameter. I asked my dad's friend, what is that.
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Speaker 1: He didn't notice it at first. When he did, I
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Speaker 1: asked him, what's that? He said, I don't know. It
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Speaker 1: followed us about fifteen feet above the car. I don't
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Speaker 1: remember how long. But when we got to the house,
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Speaker 1: we told my mom and dad and my dad's friend's wife.
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Speaker 1: They started laughing at us and said we were crazy.
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Speaker 1: My dad's friend told me to forget about it, so
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Speaker 1: I did. It was years later, in two thousand and
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Speaker 1: nine that he was surfing the internet and heard about
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Speaker 1: UFOs and this is when he suddenly remembered the encounter,
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Speaker 1: which apparently had left his mind. And something we do
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Speaker 1: see in these UFO encounters, but incredible corroboration of an
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Speaker 1: event of this landing. You know, he saw this just
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Speaker 1: what two hours before this landing in Westgate, Iowa. Now,
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Speaker 1: apparently UFOs seemed to be very interested in Iowa farms
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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one because considered this report, which occurred
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Speaker 1: in Sioux City about three months before the Westgate case
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Speaker 1: on January fifteenth, nineteen seventy one, and again I'll just
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Speaker 1: quote the witness directly as he says, my friend and
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Speaker 1: I were on a country highway between Sioux City and Westfield, Iowa.
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Speaker 1: We were coming up on a farmer's house and both
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Speaker 1: of us yelled out, what's that. We pulled off to
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Speaker 1: the side of the road and turned the car off.
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Speaker 1: We watched a UFO hovering over the farmer's house, very
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Speaker 1: close to the roof. Then it slowly started moving towards us.
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Speaker 1: We just sat in our car and watched. They moved
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Speaker 1: to my side of the car and stopped. I believe
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Speaker 1: it was looking at us, and we at them. It
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Speaker 1: had a few small lights, and the sound didn't sound
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Speaker 1: like anything I have heard before. It was very quiet.
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Speaker 1: After a couple minutes, it started moving across the highway
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Speaker 1: and over a cornfield. After a matter of seconds, it
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Speaker 1: went very fast and disappeared in the distance over cornfields.
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Speaker 1: And for the corroboration, there was another UFO landing at
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Speaker 1: an Iowa farm on that same year, September one, in Humboldt, Iowa,
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Speaker 1: which was about two hundred miles from Westgate. For us.
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Speaker 1: That's a pretty long distance. But for a UFO, what
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Speaker 1: four or five seconds, they could make it there. But
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Speaker 1: as the witness says, and again I quote, my brother
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Speaker 1: and I were traveling eastbound on State Highway three, approximately
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Speaker 1: four to five miles west of Humboldt, Iowa. The sky
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Speaker 1: was clear and there was not any other traffic. I
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Speaker 1: was returning him home to our parents, as he was
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Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen years old. He had been visiting me
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Speaker 1: in the western part of the state. We were talking
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Speaker 1: as I drove along, and as if out of a
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Speaker 1: science fiction movie, a large craft just appeared above into
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Speaker 1: the left of the road, about one or two miles
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Speaker 1: in front of us. I mean, I was looking ahead
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Speaker 1: and when this large craft just appears in the sky,
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Speaker 1: it was descending and was tilted down at about a
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Speaker 1: forty five degree angle. It then leveled itself over the highway,
24:44
Speaker 1: then descended again, tilted down as before, and left my
24:49
Speaker 1: sight as there was a farm building sight with a
24:53
Speaker 1: grove of trees blocking my sight. That's when I turned
24:57
Speaker 1: to my brother and I found him looking at me.
25:00
Speaker 1: At the same time, we both said, did you see that?
25:04
Speaker 1: We're still traveling east and getting closer to where we
25:07
Speaker 1: saw this thing land, and I say land because we're
25:11
Speaker 1: in Iowa and we can see the farm place and
25:13
Speaker 1: all around the vicinity for a long way. I mean
25:17
Speaker 1: we were really wondering what this was going to look
25:20
Speaker 1: like on the ground, and close enough to the road
25:23
Speaker 1: to throw a rock at and be able to hit
25:25
Speaker 1: it to make a point. Probably a minute after we
25:29
Speaker 1: lost it from sight, we were passing the farm place
25:32
Speaker 1: and there wasn't anything there except a harvested being field.
25:37
Speaker 1: We arrived at our parents' house a couple of hours
25:40
Speaker 1: later and told them about what we had seen. Understand,
25:44
Speaker 1: it's been thirty three thirty four years since this took place,
25:49
Speaker 1: but our oldest sister, who was seventeen at the time,
25:53
Speaker 1: was either one or two weeks later brought my attention
25:56
Speaker 1: to the day Mones Sunday Register. The front page. The
26:01
Speaker 1: second bold type heading read mysterious burn spots found in
26:06
Speaker 1: soybing fields. So newspaper accounts showed more landings at Iowa
26:13
Speaker 1: farms continuing through nineteen seventy two. Clearly there was something
26:18
Speaker 1: going on there. So it seems undeniable that UFOs at
26:22
Speaker 1: that time certainly were finding Iowa farms a location of
26:26
Speaker 1: intense interest. UFOs do seem to love visiting farms for
26:31
Speaker 1: whatever reason. I mean, we can certainly speculate about that,
26:35
Speaker 1: but the fact is, there are a lot of cases
26:37
Speaker 1: where UFOs are landing at farms and leaving behind evidence
26:43
Speaker 1: of all different kinds. Just love that case. And here's
26:47
Speaker 1: another one that is so amazing. I call this one
26:51
Speaker 1: the Colby, Kansas UFO landing, and this is really a
26:56
Speaker 1: remarkable case which occurred on August nineteen, nineteen seventy two,
27:01
Speaker 1: of course in Colby, Kansas and in surrounding areas. This
27:06
Speaker 1: one involves a huge number of witnesses, including quite a
27:11
Speaker 1: few police officers. This is not necessarily a singular event,
27:17
Speaker 1: though I am going to focus mostly on one event.
27:21
Speaker 1: The fact is a lot of stuff was going on
27:24
Speaker 1: on that night and it was a really amazing series
27:28
Speaker 1: of events that deserves a lot more attention than I
27:31
Speaker 1: think it's gotten. So that's why I wanted to include
27:34
Speaker 1: it on this list. And I am sure you'll agree
27:36
Speaker 1: it's a fascinating series of UFO encounters. This case is
27:41
Speaker 1: so amazing. It was at exactly two seven a m.
27:46
Speaker 1: August nineteen, nineteen seventy two when a call came into
27:49
Speaker 1: the Thomas County Sheriff's Office, which covers Colby, Kansas, reporting
27:55
Speaker 1: a UFO, and the call came from twenty three year
27:59
Speaker 1: old John A. Holkins. He was awakened seven minutes earlier
28:04
Speaker 1: at two a m. By his dog's barking, and looking outside,
28:09
Speaker 1: he saw three glowing objects in the sky over his
28:12
Speaker 1: mobile home. This is in the town of jem which
28:16
Speaker 1: is right next to Colby, Kansas. He went outside. These
28:21
Speaker 1: objects quickly rose out of sight and disappeared, But the
28:26
Speaker 1: strangeness wasn't over yet, because, as John Culkins says, then
28:33
Speaker 1: I heard funny noises, high pitched sounds, and swooshing sounds
28:37
Speaker 1: like a vacuum cleaner. So he went inside and called
28:40
Speaker 1: the police. Then went back outside and saw the objects again.
28:45
Speaker 1: They were flashing, changing different colors. In fact, they lit
28:48
Speaker 1: up the area so bright that he could see his
28:52
Speaker 1: dog outside, and his dog was putting its head on
28:55
Speaker 1: the ground, apparently trying to cover its ears. As John says,
28:59
Speaker 1: I knew then these were high shrilling sounds, and as
29:04
Speaker 1: he watched, an object dropped down and get this appeared
29:08
Speaker 1: to land on the roof of a quan set building
29:12
Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty feet away from his trailer.
29:15
Speaker 1: He said this object was pretty big, about twenty five
29:19
Speaker 1: to thirty five feet in diameter he estimates fifteen to
29:23
Speaker 1: twenty feet tall, and your classic saucer shape with a
29:26
Speaker 1: dome on top. And as John Colkins says in his
29:30
Speaker 1: own words, the lights on it were so bright. I
29:33
Speaker 1: couldn't stand to look at it. When I seen that one,
29:37
Speaker 1: I got so scared, I got cold, I broke out
29:40
Speaker 1: in goosebumps. I had to turn on the heater in
29:43
Speaker 1: the trailer. So this is when he called the police
29:49
Speaker 1: and Patrolman Paul Carter was sent to investigate. And little
29:54
Speaker 1: did he know he wouldn't get there and he was
29:57
Speaker 1: about to drive into the most unusual experience of his life.
30:02
Speaker 1: So he left the police station in Colby, Kansas, went
30:06
Speaker 1: down Main Street, turned south onto Country Club Drive as
30:11
Speaker 1: you can see here, and just before reaching Interstate seventy,
30:16
Speaker 1: off to his left in a field, he saw something
30:20
Speaker 1: he would never forget. So I'll just let Patrolman Paul
30:25
Speaker 1: Carter describe how all of this occurred. As he says
30:29
Speaker 1: in his own words, I saw an object coming out
30:33
Speaker 1: of the northeast in a southwesterly direction. It was big,
30:38
Speaker 1: very bright, changing from red and green blinking colors to
30:41
Speaker 1: bright white, so bright you couldn't look at it. It
30:45
Speaker 1: lit up the pasture. I watched this object for fifteen
30:49
Speaker 1: to twenty seconds. All the time it was flashing red
30:53
Speaker 1: and green. It resembled a cereal bowl turned upside down,
30:57
Speaker 1: and it was about thirty five feet wide in about
31:00
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty feet long. Now, when he first saw it,
31:05
Speaker 1: it was quite low, about two hundred to three hundred
31:07
Speaker 1: feet high. He chased it for a few minutes, traveling
31:11
Speaker 1: about fifty to sixty miles per hour, when it suddenly stopped,
31:15
Speaker 1: swung back, and stopped over the field east of country
31:19
Speaker 1: Club Drive, north of the Interstate seventy. And at this
31:24
Speaker 1: point it's hovering about three hundred feet away and came
31:28
Speaker 1: down either landing in the field or was about no
31:31
Speaker 1: more than ten, say fifteen feet above the ground, and
31:36
Speaker 1: lit up the surrounding area super bright, bright enough that
31:42
Speaker 1: Paul could see the jack rabbits in the field. In fact,
31:47
Speaker 1: it was bright enough to illuminate the entire interior of
31:50
Speaker 1: his vehicle. And he said, as it hovered there he
31:54
Speaker 1: could see little bits of quote white stuff that were
31:57
Speaker 1: dropping down but looked like they were dissolving before hit
32:00
Speaker 1: the ground. But he said, the mere sight of this
32:03
Speaker 1: craft was unnerving, and this was when it flared up
32:07
Speaker 1: so brightly. He couldn't even look at it. And I'll
32:11
Speaker 1: just let Paul give a little description, as he says
32:14
Speaker 1: Patrolman Paul Carter, it sure doesn't to make you feel
32:19
Speaker 1: like getting out and dancing the minuet. It's eerie. We
32:23
Speaker 1: all kind of laughed at this stuff in the past,
32:26
Speaker 1: but after two seven this morning, I changed my opinion
32:30
Speaker 1: real fast. I was a firm non believer until seven
32:34
Speaker 1: minutes after two, but I found I could change my
32:37
Speaker 1: mind pretty fast. So seeing this UFO just sitting there,
32:42
Speaker 1: he immediately radioed for assistance back at the station, and
32:47
Speaker 1: Patrolman Dennis Brown answered the call and immediately headed for
32:52
Speaker 1: the area. Meanwhile, Paul is watching this UFO for about
32:56
Speaker 1: eight minutes total, when suddenly the object quote made a
33:02
Speaker 1: wishing sound and went straight up into the sky, with
33:05
Speaker 1: the intense white light going out as it lifted off.
33:09
Speaker 1: It didn't shut off any lights, it just went straight up,
33:13
Speaker 1: so it disappeared, he says, in about three seconds. But
33:18
Speaker 1: Officer Dennis Brown is approaching Paul's location and looking over
33:23
Speaker 1: his shoulder, he saw a quote streak of light going
33:27
Speaker 1: west to east on the horizon. But I really didn't
33:30
Speaker 1: have time to wonder because as I was on my
33:33
Speaker 1: way to help Carter, this was apparently a separate craft
33:38
Speaker 1: because then he saw a glow coming up from behind
33:41
Speaker 1: the hill and he was just about there when he
33:43
Speaker 1: watched this UFO take off, and he, like Patrolman Paul Carter,
33:51
Speaker 1: watched this craft move across the sky and he had
33:55
Speaker 1: the presence of mind to grab his instematic camera and
33:58
Speaker 1: snap a photo. As Dennis says in his own words,
34:03
Speaker 1: I saw a shot of light go straight up into
34:05
Speaker 1: the air and then veer or level off to travel
34:08
Speaker 1: in a south westerly direction. It was weird, but it
34:13
Speaker 1: made a believer out of me. Before I always thought
34:17
Speaker 1: people who reported these sightings had been tipping the jug
34:20
Speaker 1: and then thought they saw what they reported. So this
34:25
Speaker 1: to say he changed his mind about UFOs. Just like
34:29
Speaker 1: Officer Paul Carter, Dennis Brown noticed that this light was
34:34
Speaker 1: heading towards Oakley, which is about twenty miles away, so
34:38
Speaker 1: he called the Oakley Police Station and told them to
34:41
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for strange objects in the sky,
34:44
Speaker 1: and three minutes later they called back. As it turned out,
34:48
Speaker 1: Officer Earl Wood Junior saw the UFO, and as he says,
34:53
Speaker 1: there appeared to be six lights on the object, the
34:57
Speaker 1: three to the rear being white and the read to
35:00
Speaker 1: the front being either amber or red and green. They
35:04
Speaker 1: continuously flashed from dim to bright. There was no trouble
35:08
Speaker 1: identifying that it was a circular object. So, like Officer Carter,
35:15
Speaker 1: Officer Woods noticed that this object looked like it was
35:18
Speaker 1: dripping this weird white substance, which disintegrated before it hit
35:21
Speaker 1: the ground. He said. It hovered for about five minutes
35:25
Speaker 1: and then darted away. So now Paul Carter and Dennis
35:30
Speaker 1: Brown head over to jem to talk to John Calkins.
35:35
Speaker 1: This is just a few miles to the east, and
35:38
Speaker 1: when they arrived there, they were amazed to see that
35:41
Speaker 1: this UFO had returned and now it was flashing multi
35:45
Speaker 1: colored lights. The officers looked absolutely shocked, John said, as
35:51
Speaker 1: John Culkins says in his own words, they were white
35:55
Speaker 1: as sheets. I never seen a police officer as scared
35:59
Speaker 1: as that in my life. So the two officers actually
36:03
Speaker 1: watched this object from their patrol cars and it was
36:07
Speaker 1: just hovering in place. So Paul wanted to see what
36:10
Speaker 1: was moving at all, so he used a sort of
36:13
Speaker 1: ingenious technique, as he says, we extended an arm, locking
36:18
Speaker 1: it and bracing it against the car roof and sighting
36:21
Speaker 1: the UFO over an extended thumb, and they could see
36:25
Speaker 1: that this object was in fact sort of swaying back
36:29
Speaker 1: and forth in a rocking motion. So they then returned
36:33
Speaker 1: to Colby and these UFOs were still in the sky
36:36
Speaker 1: and they watched them for the next few hours, joined
36:39
Speaker 1: by a crowd of fifteen to twenty other people in
36:43
Speaker 1: the area. And again these objects were hovering, swaying back
36:47
Speaker 1: and forth. One darted to the northeast, moving towards Rexford,
36:52
Speaker 1: only nine miles away, then stopped. They actually chased it
36:56
Speaker 1: in their car for a short distance, but it went
36:59
Speaker 1: out of the jurisdiction area, so they stopped and watched
37:03
Speaker 1: it for several hours as it was joined by four
37:06
Speaker 1: to eight smaller objects, and as Dennis Brown says, the
37:14
Speaker 1: smaller lights moved from the west to the east and
37:16
Speaker 1: back again, sometimes moving from one horizon to the other
37:21
Speaker 1: in less than five seconds, and they noticed something very
37:25
Speaker 1: interesting and I think significant. These objects were flying in
37:29
Speaker 1: very strange patterns, making what looked like geometric shapes, circles
37:33
Speaker 1: and squares. They would scatter and then group up together again. Now,
37:39
Speaker 1: while they were all watching this, the police station back
37:44
Speaker 1: in the city of Colby was ringing off the hook.
37:49
Speaker 1: The phone calls were coming in like mad and in
37:54
Speaker 1: fact there was thirty six calls which came into this.
38:01
Speaker 1: One farmer said that one of these objects actually dropped
38:04
Speaker 1: from the sky and hovered no more than three feet
38:08
Speaker 1: above his barn. Now, the next morning, John Colkins, who
38:13
Speaker 1: was back in gem inspected the Quan Sut building where
38:17
Speaker 1: he had seen this UFO apparently land on top of,
38:20
Speaker 1: but he found no evidence of any kind. The next morning,
38:24
Speaker 1: officers Carter and Brown examined the field where Paul Carter
38:29
Speaker 1: had seen this object hovering or landing. They found no
38:32
Speaker 1: evidence there either. Of course, afterwards, Dennis Brown was very
38:38
Speaker 1: excited to develop his pictures, but was very disappointed to
38:42
Speaker 1: find that they didn't show anything. He had taken a
38:45
Speaker 1: number of pictures. Now one did show a white light,
38:49
Speaker 1: but he said it was just unclear wouldn't convince any skeptics,
38:53
Speaker 1: but almost all of them were blank, which made no
38:56
Speaker 1: sense to them. They felt almost as if they had
38:59
Speaker 1: been somehow not so much tampered with, but the UFO
39:03
Speaker 1: wouldn't let them take pictures. But it was absolutely an
39:08
Speaker 1: event which changed their minds about UFOs forever. And as
39:12
Speaker 1: patrolman Paul Carter says, and I quote, you'd think we
39:17
Speaker 1: were maniacs except for all the people who saw this.
39:21
Speaker 1: It's true. That's all I can say about it. I
39:24
Speaker 1: wouldn't be making an ass out of myself if it
39:27
Speaker 1: wasn't what an amazing series of events. It's really unfortunate
39:32
Speaker 1: the photographs didn't come out in that case, because that
39:35
Speaker 1: really would have cemented it into UFO history. But the
39:39
Speaker 1: best evidence for that case, I think this is the
39:41
Speaker 1: huge number of witnesses. I mean, how many police officers
39:45
Speaker 1: have to see UFOs for people to say, Okay, there
39:48
Speaker 1: is something to this. So I'm really glad that these
39:53
Speaker 1: witnesses came forward. Most don't, especially if you've got a
39:58
Speaker 1: career that you you know your reputation might become tarnished
40:02
Speaker 1: by stepping forward. But they did, and I think it
40:05
Speaker 1: was because there were so many of them seeing UFOs
40:08
Speaker 1: on that night. And now we moved to the next
40:12
Speaker 1: case I'd like to cover, which is a little bit
40:14
Speaker 1: different from the previous three we've been talking about. I
40:18
Speaker 1: call this one Missing Time in Prince George. This occurred
40:23
Speaker 1: on January five, nineteen seventy seven, of course, in Prince George,
40:28
Speaker 1: which is located in British Columbia, Canada. This case involves
40:33
Speaker 1: two primary witnesses who were driving a long, a lonely
40:39
Speaker 1: highway out in the country and they don't know each other,
40:44
Speaker 1: but they came together and both experienced this really quite
40:48
Speaker 1: unusual missing time event and a very close up UFO sighting,
40:54
Speaker 1: and one of them the primary witness. This turned out
40:58
Speaker 1: to be the first of men encounters, and this is
41:02
Speaker 1: a case with physical evidence as well, including electromagnetic effects,
41:08
Speaker 1: physiological evidence, and of course multiple witnesses. This case was
41:15
Speaker 1: investigated numerous times by different researchers and again involves a
41:20
Speaker 1: very unusual missing time UFO encounter. The primary witness is
41:25
Speaker 1: a young seventeen year old gentleman by the name of
41:28
Speaker 1: Kirk Allore, and it was around four to ten am
41:34
Speaker 1: on January five, nineteen seventy seven, and he was driving
41:38
Speaker 1: his nineteen seventy seven GMC pickup along a straight stretch
41:44
Speaker 1: of the Yellow Head Highway Highway sixteen, about thirty miles
41:49
Speaker 1: outside of the city of Prince George, so bortaian Am.
41:55
Speaker 1: He had passed a single car when he finally did
42:00
Speaker 1: see another oncoming car ahead of him, about a half
42:03
Speaker 1: mile away. And it was at this exact time he
42:07
Speaker 1: saw something else, a glowing red object hovering over some
42:13
Speaker 1: power lines up ahead. And as Kirk a Lore says
42:17
Speaker 1: in his own words, I noticed this red light move
42:21
Speaker 1: and as I watched, it just shot right over the
42:25
Speaker 1: top of the car that was coming towards me. I
42:29
Speaker 1: stared at it in amazement, as if I had the
42:31
Speaker 1: urge to look at it. Then it just shot towards me.
42:36
Speaker 1: At the time, the oncoming car was about three hundred
42:39
Speaker 1: yards away. If that it just shot towards me. It
42:43
Speaker 1: was huge. It took up about two highway widths and
42:48
Speaker 1: it just came right towards me. So this object was
42:52
Speaker 1: the strangest looking craft Kirk had ever seen. It almost looked,
42:57
Speaker 1: he said, like an octopus or a strange creature coming
43:01
Speaker 1: at him. And again, I will just let him describe
43:05
Speaker 1: this in his own words, and he gives a very
43:07
Speaker 1: vivid description, says Kirk, to me, it looked like a
43:12
Speaker 1: giant lizard with wings, and it was a little over
43:15
Speaker 1: one and a half times the size of the road,
43:17
Speaker 1: with was sort of oblong. The outer shell looked like
43:22
Speaker 1: alligator skin because of the texture the ripples in it,
43:26
Speaker 1: and the color was dull somewhat like alligator skin. There
43:30
Speaker 1: was no definite glow. It had little protruding wings, except
43:35
Speaker 1: they were more rounded. Underneath, it had a circular thing
43:39
Speaker 1: moving like an electric razor, a disc turning inside the other.
43:44
Speaker 1: It had a dome on top, and that's where the
43:47
Speaker 1: light was coming from. It had all different colored lights
43:51
Speaker 1: inside of it, like green, red, yellow, blue, sort of
43:56
Speaker 1: little dots. I noticed that they were constantly changing back
44:01
Speaker 1: and forth. One would go one way, while inside there
44:04
Speaker 1: would be one going the other way. I just stared
44:08
Speaker 1: at that thing for the longest time when it was
44:10
Speaker 1: over top of the oncoming car, and I noticed everything
44:15
Speaker 1: in great detail. I don't think it was like anything
44:19
Speaker 1: we could build. That's how strange it looked, and that's
44:22
Speaker 1: what scared me. It didn't look like anything I had
44:25
Speaker 1: seen before, except maybe the lizard part. That's the only
44:30
Speaker 1: thing I could relate it to. So when this craft
44:34
Speaker 1: zoomed towards him and got real close, a red light
44:38
Speaker 1: came from the dome of the craft and lit up
44:40
Speaker 1: the entire interior of his car. At this point, Kirk
44:45
Speaker 1: was in a state of total panic, and he noticed
44:48
Speaker 1: that the radio in his car, which was on, started
44:52
Speaker 1: to fail. The transmission sorted started becoming crackling, and it
44:59
Speaker 1: just wasn't working. The headlights went out, and the car
45:03
Speaker 1: engine failed. As Kirk says, I noticed that I had
45:07
Speaker 1: no engine power left. There was just nothing there. Everything
45:11
Speaker 1: locked up power steering, so the motor must have died.
45:15
Speaker 1: I got strange sensations, such as my arms or legs
45:19
Speaker 1: falling asleep, like pins and needles. Then I swerved and
45:23
Speaker 1: missed this thing, for it was coming right for me.
45:27
Speaker 1: And it all happened so fast. I don't remember anything
45:31
Speaker 1: after that. I sort of knocked out. I sort of
45:34
Speaker 1: blacked out. I guess I felt as if there were
45:36
Speaker 1: a bunch of pins in me, and then I just
45:39
Speaker 1: sort of went into nothing. The last thing I remember
45:43
Speaker 1: was my motor dying, my radio going funny, and seeing
45:48
Speaker 1: this guy not more than one hundred yards away from
45:50
Speaker 1: and heading straight for me. I was going at least
45:55
Speaker 1: seventy miles per hour. I remember putting my foot on
45:59
Speaker 1: the brake. Now, Kirk had never fainted before in his life,
46:04
Speaker 1: so this was new to him. But the next thing
46:06
Speaker 1: Kirk knew, the guy from the oncoming car was opening
46:11
Speaker 1: his car door on the passenger side. Kirk was not
46:15
Speaker 1: in his driver's seat anymore. He was sitting in the
46:17
Speaker 1: passenger seat, and this guy from the oncoming car was
46:21
Speaker 1: shaking him and asked him, are you all right? Kirk said, yeah,
46:26
Speaker 1: I guess so I'm okay, But he really wasn't because,
46:30
Speaker 1: as Kirk says, I was sort of sick at the moment.
46:34
Speaker 1: I felt like I had been looked over. I was
46:37
Speaker 1: aching all over my arms. Everything was sore, really aching.
46:43
Speaker 1: I ached all over for a few days. Now, Kirk
46:47
Speaker 1: saw by his watch and the other man's watch that
46:50
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes had elapsed. So they had both been
46:54
Speaker 1: apparently unconscious for that length of time. And it was
46:58
Speaker 1: weird because their cars were now two feet apart. The
47:03
Speaker 1: other witness was driving in nineteen seventy four seventy five
47:07
Speaker 1: Pontiac Leman's, but it looked to both of them as
47:10
Speaker 1: though they had missed having a head on collision by
47:14
Speaker 1: mere inches. And in fact, the other witness told Kirk
47:19
Speaker 1: and I quote, the strangest thing happened to me. I
47:23
Speaker 1: came to standing outside of my car, and he began
47:27
Speaker 1: to explain to Kirk that he had seen this unexplained
47:31
Speaker 1: red light in his rear view mirror, saw it moving
47:35
Speaker 1: towards his car, and when it did, like Kirk, he
47:39
Speaker 1: got these prickly feelings all over his body. And the
47:43
Speaker 1: last thing he remembered seeing was Kirk's car zooming towards him,
47:47
Speaker 1: and he, like Kirk, passed up. So Kirk was amazed,
47:52
Speaker 1: as he says, as for me, I was in the
47:55
Speaker 1: passenger's seat when he shook me. We could find no
47:59
Speaker 1: s I was doing at least seventy miles an hour
48:03
Speaker 1: when I swerved into his lane, and there were no
48:05
Speaker 1: skid marks. So both Kirk and the other witness, for
48:10
Speaker 1: some reason he never got his name, They went straight
48:14
Speaker 1: to the hospital in Vanderhoff and were examined by doctors
48:19
Speaker 1: who found nothing wrong with them. So once he got
48:24
Speaker 1: home he did report his case and reporters and investigators converged.
48:29
Speaker 1: He says he took a polygraph test one of the
48:32
Speaker 1: reporters asked him to, and then he started talking to
48:36
Speaker 1: investigators and they called up the hospital and were unable
48:40
Speaker 1: to confirm his visit with the hospital's staff, but they
48:45
Speaker 1: did talk to Kirk's parents, who said that yes, Kirk
48:48
Speaker 1: had in fact called them from the hospital, and Kirk
48:52
Speaker 1: told them that the doctors had refused to take his
48:55
Speaker 1: report seriously, which is what Kirk said they just kind
48:59
Speaker 1: of laughed at him. Following this sighting, Kirk said he
49:03
Speaker 1: had nightmares, but he didn't want to talk to investigators
49:07
Speaker 1: and tell them what these nightmares were about. But he
49:10
Speaker 1: says he also suffered from headaches for a few days,
49:14
Speaker 1: and not only that, the battery of his pickup truck,
49:18
Speaker 1: which he had purchased not that long ago, was nearly dead.
49:23
Speaker 1: He also said that his watch stopped working. It kept
49:27
Speaker 1: stopping following the incident, and it was not long after
49:33
Speaker 1: that he started to see more UFOs. One dropped down
49:37
Speaker 1: near his house in May of nineteen seventy seven, and
49:41
Speaker 1: this time was viewed by his family and his neighbors,
49:46
Speaker 1: and it was just a few months later at eleven,
49:49
Speaker 1: twenty five pm. On November third, nineteen seventy seven, kerk
49:54
Speaker 1: who's now eighteen, was walking with his girlfriend mary Ann
49:59
Speaker 1: sam along Old Parns Beach Road on the south shore
50:04
Speaker 1: of Stuart Lake when they both saw a glowing red
50:08
Speaker 1: sphere not far away. Now. Kirk, remembering his previous encounters,
50:14
Speaker 1: began to freak out, but Marianne was curious, so she
50:18
Speaker 1: convinced him to approach this object along with her, and
50:24
Speaker 1: they got close and they could see that it was
50:26
Speaker 1: an object about the size of a small car was
50:30
Speaker 1: giving off blue sparks, and they approached to about three
50:33
Speaker 1: hundred feet when they felt this weird force field actually
50:38
Speaker 1: stopped them, and that scared them, so they ran back
50:41
Speaker 1: to their car and drove off, only to find that
50:44
Speaker 1: this object was now following them, and in fact, for
50:48
Speaker 1: one and a half hours, it followed them, not only
50:51
Speaker 1: following them, but playing this sort of cat and mouse game,
50:55
Speaker 1: suddenly appearing in the middle of the road when they
50:57
Speaker 1: would come around a corner. At one point, Kirk pulled
51:00
Speaker 1: a u turned to get away from this object and
51:04
Speaker 1: kept going and the object was there again in front
51:06
Speaker 1: of them. It paced in a treetop level across the
51:10
Speaker 1: road in front of them. They were freaking out, So
51:14
Speaker 1: finally they just pulled over into a farmhouse and called
51:16
Speaker 1: the police, and the police came and investigated, and they
51:21
Speaker 1: could smell this weird electrical odor where this object had been.
51:25
Speaker 1: And it was following this encounter that both Kirk and
51:29
Speaker 1: mary Anne began having strange dreams about the incident, at
51:34
Speaker 1: least one of which they said was the same exact dream.
51:38
Speaker 1: And once again they refused to elaborate on this to investigators.
51:42
Speaker 1: But I suspect it involved perhaps an onboard encounter. That's
51:47
Speaker 1: pure speculation. I don't know, but it's not unusual for
51:52
Speaker 1: someone to have dreams about an onboard experience that they
51:57
Speaker 1: don't remember. That a shrouded and missing time. Who knows.
52:01
Speaker 1: But the UFOs weren't over yet in January of nineteen
52:06
Speaker 1: fifty eight. In January of nineteen seventy eight, the UFO
52:11
Speaker 1: returned and paced Kirk and mary And again in their car.
52:16
Speaker 1: So since his initial encounter, he had a total of
52:19
Speaker 1: four other sightings. And it's a kind of a joke
52:23
Speaker 1: in his family. They're always asking them if you've seen
52:25
Speaker 1: any UFOs, But he frankly does not like to talk
52:29
Speaker 1: about them because the whole subject still frightens him. He
52:33
Speaker 1: had never believed in UFOs, but as he says, I
52:37
Speaker 1: do now. I did it before, but I do now.
52:42
Speaker 1: You can see how profoundly the witness was affected in
52:45
Speaker 1: this case, and I think that's probably the rule rather
52:49
Speaker 1: than exception, particularly when someone has a missing time encounter, which,
52:54
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you know, is probably an onboard encounter,
53:00
Speaker 1: but you know, this is something that people deal with
53:03
Speaker 1: their entire lives. Many people do have a singular, you know,
53:08
Speaker 1: a single UFO encounter, but if it's a missing time encounter,
53:13
Speaker 1: more than likely this is going to be something that's ongoing.
53:17
Speaker 1: And that's certainly true in kirk Alhre's case. But a
53:21
Speaker 1: really amazing case with quite a bit of evidence and
53:24
Speaker 1: again multiple witnesses. And now we move to the next case,
53:30
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting, I think in this little collection.
53:33
Speaker 1: I call this one the Greenfield UFO landing. This is
53:38
Speaker 1: a really amazing case which occurred on November eighth, nineteen
53:42
Speaker 1: seventy five in Greenfield, Indiana. And this case came to
53:48
Speaker 1: attention because these two sisters had a very close up
53:52
Speaker 1: encounter on their farm and apparent landing and they wanted answers,
53:57
Speaker 1: so they went really public with their encounter and it
54:02
Speaker 1: led to a lot of publicity and their case was
54:06
Speaker 1: very extensively researched. It turned out it was not a
54:11
Speaker 1: single event. All kinds of UFO activity was going around
54:16
Speaker 1: in that area at that time. It created quite a
54:19
Speaker 1: controversy and it's just a super fascinating and well verified
54:25
Speaker 1: case with some incredible landing trace evidence. So this is
54:30
Speaker 1: the fifth and final case in this collection. And it
54:33
Speaker 1: was somewhere around seven pm again on November eighth, nineteen
54:38
Speaker 1: seventy five, when Kathy Wilfong was twenty three years old
54:43
Speaker 1: and her sister, Cindy Bridges, who's twenty one years old,
54:48
Speaker 1: were at their farmhouse, which is located somewhere between three
54:52
Speaker 1: hundred and four hundred and north and five to five
54:55
Speaker 1: east in Greenfield, Indiana, and it was again at seven
55:00
Speaker 1: pm when the electricity in the farmhouse suddenly went out.
55:05
Speaker 1: The two sisters lived on separate houses on the farm.
55:08
Speaker 1: They have a total of three kids together, but they
55:11
Speaker 1: were together at the time. Kathy's husband was away on
55:14
Speaker 1: a business trip in Alabama, so they decided to go
55:19
Speaker 1: out and check the circuit breaker, which went off, so
55:22
Speaker 1: they put it back on, but they went off again,
55:26
Speaker 1: and in fact, this happened four or five times over
55:30
Speaker 1: a period of fifteen or twenty minutes. As Kathy says,
55:34
Speaker 1: we just couldn't keep the lights lit. So it was
55:38
Speaker 1: around seven thirty or so when these unexplained electrical malfunctions
55:43
Speaker 1: finally stopped, and they thought that was the end of it,
55:47
Speaker 1: but unknown to them, it was just the beginning. And
55:51
Speaker 1: it was two hours later, around nine pm. Cindy went
55:56
Speaker 1: outside and got into the camper trailer because, as she's says,
56:01
Speaker 1: I needed the headlights to see to get some firewood
56:04
Speaker 1: out of the barn, and this is when she noticed
56:08
Speaker 1: some quote pulsating lights coming from their soiban field to
56:12
Speaker 1: the north, and she instantly realized that she was seeing
56:17
Speaker 1: something quite large, very unusual, and she honked the car
56:21
Speaker 1: horn to attract her sister. So Kathy, her sister, knew
56:26
Speaker 1: something was wrong when she heard her sister screaming. Also,
56:31
Speaker 1: their little dog, Babe was barking out of control. So
56:36
Speaker 1: Kathy ran outside and saw this huge object covered with
56:39
Speaker 1: strange lights. She could see her sister in the camper
56:44
Speaker 1: and Kathy immediately ran back inside and called the sheriff's
56:47
Speaker 1: department first, and then called her mother. She told the police,
56:53
Speaker 1: would you please send someone out here in a hurry,
56:56
Speaker 1: there's a UFO out here. So that took her just
57:00
Speaker 1: about one minute, and then she ran back outside and Cindy,
57:05
Speaker 1: who estimates that she stayed in the truck about four minutes,
57:09
Speaker 1: finally worked up the nerve to get out. She exited
57:12
Speaker 1: the truck and was running back to the house when
57:16
Speaker 1: Kathy was coming out. So Kathy went looking into the
57:21
Speaker 1: garage for the camera, but it turned out her husband
57:24
Speaker 1: had taken it, so they couldn't take any pictures of this.
57:28
Speaker 1: But together the two of them watched this craft hovering
57:31
Speaker 1: just above the ground for about twelve or fifteen minutes,
57:36
Speaker 1: and both of them decided to retreat inside and watched
57:41
Speaker 1: as this craft rose upward and stayed there. It was
57:45
Speaker 1: not moving off. It was moving off a little bit,
57:47
Speaker 1: but was still visible in the area. And it was huge.
57:52
Speaker 1: They described this craft as quote bigger than the barn,
57:56
Speaker 1: which was one hundred feet long. They said it was
58:00
Speaker 1: shaped like an upside down bowl, and the whole time
58:03
Speaker 1: they watched it, it was tilted at an angle kind
58:06
Speaker 1: of showing its underside. They could see two white lights
58:10
Speaker 1: on one end and a red light on the other,
58:13
Speaker 1: with a red circle in the center, and they drew
58:16
Speaker 1: it as you can see. And as Cindy says, I
58:20
Speaker 1: never saw it on the ground. It was about sixty
58:23
Speaker 1: feet up in the air when I seen it, just
58:25
Speaker 1: hovering there over the field. I thought at first an
58:28
Speaker 1: airplane had crashed, it was so big, but then I
58:32
Speaker 1: realized there was no sound, and I saw that it
58:34
Speaker 1: was a UFO. I started honking for Kathy to come
58:38
Speaker 1: out and yelling, UFO, UFO. It looked like it was
58:42
Speaker 1: in three sections, like a rectangle, and the two end
58:46
Speaker 1: sections were pointed down at the ground at a twenty
58:50
Speaker 1: degree angle, and in the middle section there was some
58:53
Speaker 1: type of round circle. We couldn't tell if the circle
58:57
Speaker 1: was even with it or protruding out from it or
59:00
Speaker 1: into it. There was just definitely a round circle in it.
59:05
Speaker 1: The craft was a grayish green color. It had two
59:08
Speaker 1: white lights on it, one red, and the lights never
59:11
Speaker 1: started pulsating until it was moving, And then it was moving,
59:17
Speaker 1: the lights started never blinking off, but got brighter and dimmer.
59:22
Speaker 1: It was just so huge, and it didn't make a noise,
59:25
Speaker 1: and that's what scared me. The thing moved like it
59:28
Speaker 1: was in slow motion. So Kathy verifies all of this,
59:33
Speaker 1: as she says, when I saw this thing, all this light,
59:37
Speaker 1: I panicked. I ran into the house, called the sheriff's apartment.
59:41
Speaker 1: Then I called our mother. I ran outside, left my
59:44
Speaker 1: mother hanging on the phone. When I did talk with
59:48
Speaker 1: my mother, I just kept yelling UFO, UFO. So meanwhile,
59:54
Speaker 1: back at the Sheriff's office, calls were flooding in from
59:58
Speaker 1: all over the county reporting UFOs. One man said he
1:00:03
Speaker 1: was driving along Interstate seventy and saw what he thought
1:00:07
Speaker 1: were several helicopters flying low over his car. Another woman
1:00:13
Speaker 1: in Mccordsville said that she saw unexplained lights. Kathyen Cindy's mother,
1:00:19
Speaker 1: who lived about six miles away, arrived shortly later, and
1:00:25
Speaker 1: she actually saw the lights from this object as she approached,
1:00:29
Speaker 1: but by the time she got at the farm, the
1:00:31
Speaker 1: lights were pretty much off in the distance, but still
1:00:34
Speaker 1: clearly visible, and it was a short time later that
1:00:39
Speaker 1: the two deputies from the Sheriff's office showed up at
1:00:43
Speaker 1: the Wilfong's residence. Now, the sisters say it was half
1:00:47
Speaker 1: an hour after they called. However, there's some dispute about this,
1:00:53
Speaker 1: and in fact Sheriff Malcolm Gross denied this. He said
1:00:57
Speaker 1: that the Wilfong's call came at nine o two, the
1:01:01
Speaker 1: deputies arrived at nine to oh eight. However, the farm
1:01:06
Speaker 1: is eight miles from the Sheriff's office, so how they
1:01:10
Speaker 1: could get there in six minutes well either way. By
1:01:13
Speaker 1: this time the lights were further off in the distance,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: but still clearly visible, and both deputies could see it,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: and they told the sisters, that is a helicopter, and
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Kathy and Cindy said no, no, no, this is not
1:01:30
Speaker 1: a helicopter. We saw it close up. It was one
1:01:33
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty feet long and had no normal navigation lights,
1:01:37
Speaker 1: and it was totally silent. And one of the deputies
1:01:42
Speaker 1: turned to Kathy and mocked her and said, do you
1:01:47
Speaker 1: space talk? In fact, he told her that she watched
1:01:51
Speaker 1: too much Mork and Mindy and asked her if they'd
1:01:54
Speaker 1: been drinking or smoking or taking pills, which really made
1:01:59
Speaker 1: her angry, and she told him that she says, hey,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: I don't need this, I've just seen something that terrified me.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: They do admit that the other deputy was more respectful
1:02:11
Speaker 1: and questioned them, in quote a very sincere manner, but
1:02:15
Speaker 1: both seemed quite skeptical, and still the officers did question
1:02:22
Speaker 1: them and then left, and the Wilfongs had no answer
1:02:26
Speaker 1: to what they saw. And in total, this craft was
1:02:31
Speaker 1: visible for about forty minutes, they estimate, And it was
1:02:35
Speaker 1: the next morning Cindy went out into the soybean field
1:02:39
Speaker 1: and this is when she saw that there was this huge,
1:02:42
Speaker 1: perfect circle of crushed vegetation, and not just crushed, but
1:02:48
Speaker 1: matted and woven together in this very strange pattern. And
1:02:53
Speaker 1: I'll just quote Kathy directly as she says in her
1:02:55
Speaker 1: own words, we didn't know how large it was at first.
1:03:00
Speaker 1: We found out later it was forty four feet in diameter,
1:03:03
Speaker 1: and it was a perfect circle, and the weeds and
1:03:07
Speaker 1: everything were smashed down, but not to the ground. They
1:03:11
Speaker 1: were like six to eight inches above the ground, and
1:03:15
Speaker 1: they were intertwined together so much that if you tried
1:03:19
Speaker 1: to pick it up, the whole thing would come up
1:03:22
Speaker 1: with it. And in fact, during an interview on a
1:03:25
Speaker 1: television station, she did try to pick up this vegetation,
1:03:31
Speaker 1: you could see the whole thing coming up with it.
1:03:35
Speaker 1: Now before the object had apparently landed there or affected
1:03:38
Speaker 1: the vegetation. The plants were about five feet high, and
1:03:44
Speaker 1: Kathy and Cindy tried to get help, tried to get
1:03:47
Speaker 1: people interested, but nobody seemed to want to hear it.
1:03:51
Speaker 1: They called the police again and showed them the landing marks,
1:03:57
Speaker 1: and the police first said, well, helicopters probably did it,
1:04:01
Speaker 1: which again the sisters denied, and then they actually accused
1:04:05
Speaker 1: the sisters of mashing down the plants themselves. So this
1:04:10
Speaker 1: case was now generating a lot of publicity because the
1:04:14
Speaker 1: sisters were granting interviews to newspaper reporters and television reporters
1:04:19
Speaker 1: and talking about how they were being mistreated by the
1:04:23
Speaker 1: sheriff's department. And this is when Sheriff Malcolm E. Grasse
1:04:28
Speaker 1: wrote a letter to the green Field, Indiana Reporter. This
1:04:33
Speaker 1: was published on November twenty ninth, and he wrote, and
1:04:36
Speaker 1: I quote, I don't know what Miss Wilfong and Miss
1:04:41
Speaker 1: Bridges saw November eight. No one on the Hancock County
1:04:46
Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department has had specific training in this area. We
1:04:51
Speaker 1: have to rely on the sources available to us. I
1:04:54
Speaker 1: hope the experts from the center of UFO Studies can
1:04:57
Speaker 1: help identify what they saw. The Hancock County Sheriff's Department
1:05:03
Speaker 1: did respond quickly, in six minutes to Miss will Fong's call.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: Several calls were made to obtain as much information as possible.
1:05:12
Speaker 1: I hope if anyone sees anything, they will not hesitate
1:05:16
Speaker 1: to contact the Sheriff's department and we will do everything
1:05:20
Speaker 1: we can to assist them. Sincerely, Malcolm Grass, Sheriff of
1:05:25
Speaker 1: Hancock County. So these sisters did call the Center for
1:05:31
Speaker 1: UFO Studies, which came out and started doing a full
1:05:36
Speaker 1: on investigation, but they had a real hard time trying
1:05:40
Speaker 1: to get people to take this seriously. As Cathy says,
1:05:44
Speaker 1: we were horrified. We called everyone we knew, but nobody
1:05:48
Speaker 1: would listen something that close, that huge. It's just unbelievable.
1:05:56
Speaker 1: And they did receive a lot of skepticism for people
1:05:58
Speaker 1: who said that they probably saw helicopters, but they both disagree.
1:06:03
Speaker 1: As Cathy says, we see helicopters out here all the time.
1:06:08
Speaker 1: They fly along the power lines and you can always
1:06:11
Speaker 1: hear them coming before you ever see them. But there
1:06:15
Speaker 1: just wasn't any noise this time. If we hadn't gone outside,
1:06:20
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have known anything was there. So they called
1:06:25
Speaker 1: up the Center for UFO Studies QFOS, and investigators Alan
1:06:30
Speaker 1: Hendry and Paul Clark showed up at the farm, interviewed
1:06:34
Speaker 1: the witnesses, examined the landing traces, and began a whole investigation.
1:06:41
Speaker 1: And they learned that there were no less than nineteen
1:06:45
Speaker 1: separate reports of strange lights in the green Field area
1:06:49
Speaker 1: alone on that night. They contacted various airports and so forth.
1:06:56
Speaker 1: The spokesperson for the National Guard and Army Room deserve
1:07:00
Speaker 1: helicopter fields near Shelbyville and Mccordsville said that they had
1:07:05
Speaker 1: no helicopters in the Greenfield area on that night. So
1:07:11
Speaker 1: finally QFOS released a statement which said, in part, this
1:07:16
Speaker 1: case has been extremely puzzling. As many as fifteen separate
1:07:21
Speaker 1: witnesses in the area have been interviewed. We are trying
1:07:24
Speaker 1: to identify the object. And then they said that they
1:07:28
Speaker 1: were still analyzing the soil samples so couldn't comment on that.
1:07:33
Speaker 1: But again Kathy did interviews for both newspaper and television shows.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: Both of the sisters did because they wanted others to
1:07:42
Speaker 1: know that they had seen something, and they suspected other
1:07:46
Speaker 1: people had seen it too, as Kathy says, and I quote,
1:07:51
Speaker 1: maybe others saw the same thing, or maybe someone has
1:07:55
Speaker 1: found a saucer nest and didn't know what it was.
1:07:58
Speaker 1: If so, and if they come forward and say something
1:08:01
Speaker 1: about it, then that makes it worthwhile. And apparently it
1:08:07
Speaker 1: was worthwhile because after the articles and news reports came out,
1:08:11
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other people came forward and said
1:08:15
Speaker 1: they saw strange lights in the area on that night.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: But ultimately the whole experience left both the sisters badly
1:08:23
Speaker 1: shook up. As Kathy says, I keep the drapes pinned
1:08:28
Speaker 1: shut on the west windows anyway. I was too petrified
1:08:32
Speaker 1: by the whole experience. If it comes back, I want
1:08:36
Speaker 1: to be the first one to see it, not have
1:08:38
Speaker 1: it out there seeing me. And this was not an
1:08:43
Speaker 1: isolated sighting. There were several other very high quality reports,
1:08:48
Speaker 1: both in the days and weeks before the sister's sighting
1:08:52
Speaker 1: and after, so apparently the UFOs were very interested for
1:08:56
Speaker 1: some reason in this area. I think you'll agree that's
1:09:00
Speaker 1: an undeniable case. Here we have landing traces. They observe
1:09:05
Speaker 1: this UFO very close up for quite a long period
1:09:08
Speaker 1: of time, and with so many other people in the
1:09:11
Speaker 1: area reporting their encounters, and how do you deny something
1:09:17
Speaker 1: like this? And it's super interesting to me that as
1:09:20
Speaker 1: soon as they really went public and articles and news
1:09:24
Speaker 1: stories on television started appearing, a whole new batch of
1:09:28
Speaker 1: witnesses came forward. And this just speaks to the fact
1:09:32
Speaker 1: that most people don't step forward and talk about their encounters. Thankfully,
1:09:36
Speaker 1: times are changing, this subject is going mainstream. The ridicule
1:09:42
Speaker 1: and disbelief is falling to the wayside to a certain extent.
1:09:46
Speaker 1: We still have more work to do, but progress has
1:09:50
Speaker 1: definitely been made thanks to the witnesses who are stepping forward.
1:09:55
Speaker 1: So these five cases, as I'm sure you know, are
1:09:59
Speaker 1: not point oh oh one percent of the true number
1:10:03
Speaker 1: of cases and just represent the tiny tip of the
1:10:08
Speaker 1: iceberg of what's going on. But even alone, these five cases,
1:10:12
Speaker 1: as I said in the beginning, provide enough evidence, I think,
1:10:16
Speaker 1: undeniable evidence to say that there is reality to the
1:10:20
Speaker 1: UFO phenomena. So don't tell me there's no evidence. There is,
1:10:24
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of it. And that's why I
1:10:27
Speaker 1: want to do this episode for you today. So I
1:10:29
Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed it. Perhaps learned a little bit. I
1:10:33
Speaker 1: really want to thank you once again for watching. It's
1:10:36
Speaker 1: always appreciated. Until next time, Keep searching for the truth,
1:10:41
Speaker 1: keep asking those hard questions most important of all, keep
1:10:45
Speaker 1: having fun until next time. I now