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61 | Have Thine Own Way · Sermons on the Side

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SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Sermons on the Side.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm Brad.
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SPEAKER_04: And I'm Richard.
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SPEAKER_04: And life can move pretty fast.
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SPEAKER_04: So we're here to slow down, dig deep, and find the story hidden in everyday moments.
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SPEAKER_02: With years spent in ministry, friendship, and navigating real life together, we're all about blending humor, honesty, and faith into conversations that meet you right where you are.
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SPEAKER_04: So whether you're brand new or you're back for more, we are so glad you are here.
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SPEAKER_02: So relax, listen in, and let's discover meaning together.
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SPEAKER_04: In the ordinary, the messy, and everything in between.
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SPEAKER_02: Sermons on the side, finding meaning in the everyday.
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SPEAKER_04: Not only am I okay with couple showers, I'm asking for more.
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SPEAKER_04: My hand is raised, bringing it on.
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SPEAKER_04: You know how much fun Lisa and I had?
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SPEAKER_04: It took us three hours, three full hours of that first part of the wedding shower to like detox from being around the kids.
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SPEAKER_04: It was like three hours and 30 minutes long.
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SPEAKER_04: We got 30 fun minutes.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody else is ready to go, and they're like, we're just getting it's nine o'clock.
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SPEAKER_03: We're ready to go home.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't want to go home.
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SPEAKER_04: Episode sixty-one.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes indeed.
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SPEAKER_02: Your birthday match.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: Your second favorite co-host is sixty one years of age.
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SPEAKER_04: Not second favorite, number one favorite, but we were joking about that a couple of episodes ago.
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SPEAKER_04: Maybe it was the last episode.
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SPEAKER_04: I can't remember.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh, but episode 61 matching up with your birthday.
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SPEAKER_04: So here we are.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh, how do you feel?
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SPEAKER_02: I feel coated inside and out by pollen.
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SPEAKER_04: Dude, is that gross?
2:10
SPEAKER_04: Is that gross?
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SPEAKER_04: No, it's not because it's accurate.
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SPEAKER_04: That's what it is.
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SPEAKER_04: It's listen, down here in the Dagum Tri-Valley area, I think the pollen I think comes from other areas of the state down into this valley.
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SPEAKER_02: Other pollens save up money to come here for vacation.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they travel south.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, pollen travels south for the winter.
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SPEAKER_04: All I know is that it I walk outside and it's yellow.
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SPEAKER_04: It's so bad.
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SPEAKER_04: Like I have a purple van for most other months, but now I have a green van because the pollen just rests on the purple and it kind of makes green.
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SPEAKER_04: What are the primary colors of?
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know if that made sense either.
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SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_04: That's what pollen does.
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SPEAKER_04: And anyway, we had a uh we had a really tough week last week of like some sickness.
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SPEAKER_04: And it was that good.
3:00
SPEAKER_04: It was borderline if I was gonna get to this episode or not, because I thought it was gonna be one of those, you know, like yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_04: But uh, but thank the Lord for uh keeping the rest of our family healthy and Cheppy has made a full recovery.
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SPEAKER_04: And uh so, anyways, here we are.
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SPEAKER_02: Bonus question, uh Sermons on the side question.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, what's the only thing that's worse than the pollen in Columbus, Georgia right now?
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SPEAKER_04: I know the answer.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, you do.
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SPEAKER_04: It's your bracket.
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SPEAKER_04: March Madness.
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SPEAKER_04: Your March Madness bracket.
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SPEAKER_04: Hey, I gotta tell you though, I gotta tell you, I respect the picks.
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SPEAKER_04: I respect the picks because you not only had Gonzaga going all the way to the final four, yeah, you had Gonzaga in your final.
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SPEAKER_04: You had him in the national championship.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna lose to Duke in my bracket.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, Frank, coach, they lost.
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SPEAKER_04: They did.
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SPEAKER_04: But no, but it wasn't to Duke, it was in the second round.
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SPEAKER_04: Texas, hook 'em horns.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, your bracket is is tough looking.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh so right now we're just we're both playing catch-up to my dad, who he is number one in like Johnny Memphis is in is in the league?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and not only that, he's defending his crown from last year.
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SPEAKER_04: He won the family and friends bracket.
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SPEAKER_02: There'll be no living with him.
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SPEAKER_04: Coach, you think it's bad now?
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SPEAKER_04: Dude, back to back.
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SPEAKER_04: How bad was I when I won back-to-back fantasy football?
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SPEAKER_04: Where did I learn it from?
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SPEAKER_03: Hello.
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SPEAKER_03: Apple fell roughly.
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SPEAKER_04: I'll tell you what, this is the truth.
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SPEAKER_04: He is uh at the time of recording this, he is by far and away at number one and uh and has Arizona winning at all.
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SPEAKER_04: It's a fantastic pick.
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SPEAKER_02: I like that pick.
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SPEAKER_04: Let me look at his final four real quick.
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SPEAKER_04: Duke Houston, Arizona, Michigan.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know if there's any catching him.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know if there's any catching him.
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SPEAKER_04: He's unbelievable.
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SPEAKER_04: So, anyways, we'll keep you guys touched Johnny.
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SPEAKER_04: But um, but yeah, the the the the Ke Rico bracket would shut up from the Michael Warden episode.
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SPEAKER_04: K Rico is uh no bueno rico.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, all right, sorry.
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SPEAKER_04: Coach, rescue us.
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SPEAKER_04: Let's just dive right in because where where are we at today, episode 61?
5:17
SPEAKER_02: It is so appropriate that this is episode 61 because the sermons on the side comes from a story that took place on the morning of my 61st birthday.
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SPEAKER_02: No way, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: It was just last November, November of 2025, for some unexplained reason.
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SPEAKER_02: As soon as I woke up, I had a song in my head that I don't I can't track or trace what it might have happened the night before, the day before, that got me on this.
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SPEAKER_02: But when I woke up, I was singing an old hymn that we used to sing in the Baptist church when I was growing up.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, now my dad, shout out to Pop Don Moore, and uh he is he will be celebrating his 88th birthday this September.
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SPEAKER_02: And he spent his career as a minister of music in the Baptist Church, and so he was leading choirs and leading the congregation in the hymns every Sunday morning, and so I was super familiar with them, and these hymns are embedded deep in my memory.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, little little side note that is really cool about music.
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SPEAKER_02: I think you know this as a musician, as a singer, as a songwriter.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, that my dad, as you know, is struggling with Alzheimer's and in the early stages, thankfully, he recognizes us.
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SPEAKER_02: We still can talk, he just memory is super short and remembers some things from long ago, but has forgotten a ton of things.
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SPEAKER_02: But I'm telling you, you pull out a hymn, yep, and you I could even just speak, though, I don't even have to sing it.
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SPEAKER_02: I can speak the lyrics to him, he'll start boom singing them.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: The music thing you've heard this, right?
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SPEAKER_04: I absolutely have, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: I've seen a documentary of how music, even being played like in headphones, will bring back the memories of somebody, even somebody that you're visually looking at.
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SPEAKER_04: So you don't even have to converse with them, but the music stimuli will engage their like so so they'll put headphones on and they can't converse with them, but then they're face-to-face with their loved one and they recognize them and they'll hug.
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SPEAKER_04: It's a really special thing.
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SPEAKER_04: And it's remarkable.
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SPEAKER_04: Our pastor says this in a different context, but the truth of this statement rings uh for many different circumstances.
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SPEAKER_04: Music is a divine connector, it's a connector of people, yes, but it is also a connector from our spirit to the Lord.
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SPEAKER_04: Wow, it's a connector for our minds to past memories.
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SPEAKER_04: Music continues to be a divine connector.
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SPEAKER_02: That just touches me in the heart.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, and a lot of it has to do with this season we're going through with my dad.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyway, so anytime I make a reference to an old hymn, I it is uh Don Moore as the choir director and his influence in my life, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh and Pops, shout out to you, even though Pops doesn't understand podcasts.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
8:13
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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SPEAKER_02: He every time he hears us talking about it, he's listened to a number of episodes, but every time we hear him talk, he hears us talking, he'll say, What are you talking about?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and this is the only way I can in his help him in his mind.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: I'd say, it's just that radio show that me and Brad do.
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SPEAKER_04: At the Thanksgiving when we were together, he was like, Are you the guy that's doing the news broadcast with my dad?
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SPEAKER_04: It's like, you know what pops?
8:37
SPEAKER_04: Yes, that's me.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm the newscaster, Brad.
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SPEAKER_04: You know, nice to meet you.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyway, hey, uh, to all our listeners, thanks for going down a few uh side roads with us.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: A couple tributaries.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Back to this story.
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SPEAKER_02: I wake up on my birthday, my 61st birthday, and I'm singing this old hymn, and it's called Have Thine Own Way, Lord.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, even you can tell even in the title of the hymn, it's it's one of those hymns that the language they use is like old English, almost like King James Version kind of language.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm not using thine in everyday language nowadays.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when the last time I said that other than that song this context right here.
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SPEAKER_02: Seriously, though, I've I've got the song Have Thine Own Way, Lord, stuck in my head.
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SPEAKER_02: And the lyrics of the first verse of this song say, Have thine own way.
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SPEAKER_02: And obviously, the the meaning of that title line is you're basically saying to the Lord, God, I'm going to yield.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to sort of go with your plan.
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SPEAKER_02: I want you to have your way.
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SPEAKER_02: The the the inference is, I want to have thine own way, Lord, not mine own way.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: No, that's exactly right.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's the whole meaning of the song.
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SPEAKER_04: I am thou art the potter.
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SPEAKER_04: I am the clay.
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SPEAKER_02: And that second line is a reference to a Bible verse, a Bible story that's told in Jeremiah 18.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to read you a few verses.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: You're so good at what you do, Brad.
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SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
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SPEAKER_02: So in Jeremiah chapter 18, God speaks to the prophet Jeremiah through this imagery of a potter and clay, meaning a potter being a dude who makes pottery.
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SPEAKER_02: And he makes pottery out of clay.
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SPEAKER_02: And so here's how it goes The Lord gave a message to Jeremiah.
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SPEAKER_02: He said, Go down to the potter's house, and I will speak to you there.
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SPEAKER_02: So I did as he told me, and I found the potter working at his wheel.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's the pottery wheel.
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SPEAKER_02: But the jar he was making did not turn out as he had hoped.
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SPEAKER_02: So he crushed it into a lump of clay again and started over.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, interesting story, Jeremiah.
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SPEAKER_02: Verse 5 says, Then the Lord gave me this message.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh Israel, which is the nation of Israel that God was speaking to through this story.
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SPEAKER_02: Can I not do to you as this potter has done to this clay?
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SPEAKER_02: As the clay is in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the whole point of the Jeremiah's story.
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SPEAKER_02: And it really is the whole point of that song.
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SPEAKER_02: That we're offering ourselves to the Lord because we've heard the story from Jeremiah, and we go, okay, God, we get it.
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SPEAKER_02: So since you're the potter and I'm the clay, I'm gonna let you have your way in my life.
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SPEAKER_02: So the clay is my life, and I'm gonna let God shape it the way He wants to.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's a big deal kind of prayer.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's huge.
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SPEAKER_04: It's not easy to pray.
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SPEAKER_04: No, absolutely not.
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SPEAKER_04: And I just, I mean, for people that like us who have had a recovery journey, and maybe those that don't, I think there's a lot of people that can sit here and go, Man, I I can relate to the Israelites in that moment because I know what it's like to have my clay kind of crushed.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: I know what it's like to have my world kind of symbolically kind of coming crumbling down, maybe hit a reset button in a sense.
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SPEAKER_04: But I think we can also attest to the goodness and graciousness of God that says he is a good potter with good intentions, and what he makes is beautiful, and we trust him to make beautiful things out of our mess.
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SPEAKER_04: And so, and so while when you're when you when you when you just sing this, you know, have thine own way, Lord.
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SPEAKER_04: Have thine own way, you know, uh thou art the potter, I am the clay, you know.
12:57
SPEAKER_04: That is good.
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SPEAKER_04: But when you read scripture and when you kind of allow yourself to see the broader picture of this truth, man, it does it just hit home in such a different capacity.
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SPEAKER_02: It really does, it really does.
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SPEAKER_02: And and so I look back to that day on the morning of my birthday last year, and I remember that, and I shared this with our our guys on Tuesday nights the following week about this story because I felt God was inviting me into a year of surrender.
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SPEAKER_02: And of course, we know He's not just asking me for 365 days of surrender, he's asking me for a reset or sort of a fresh perspective on ongoing surrender, not just this year, but for the rest of our years.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, it was cool the way that came.
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SPEAKER_02: Just say, look, just focus.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's just focus on yielding, letting God have his way in my life.
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SPEAKER_02: So I wanted to share that story and invite our listeners to uh or to ask our listeners to consider maybe God's inviting you to do the same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe God is inviting you to a new, really meaningful season of surrender.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And so it just so happens that it's so funny because ever since November of last year, I've like, hey, let's find a spot for this as one of our sermons on the side episodes.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, when should we do that?
14:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: And it just never felt right.
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SPEAKER_02: And then what happens last week?
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SPEAKER_02: We end up talking to Jacques von Bummel.
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SPEAKER_02: You did it!
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SPEAKER_04: 10 out of 10.
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SPEAKER_04: That was awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: And you know, I couldn't have done that when he was sitting in our presence.
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SPEAKER_02: I butchered his name when he was here.
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SPEAKER_02: Now that he's not anyway.
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SPEAKER_04: That was for you, Jacques.
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SPEAKER_02: Shout out, Jacques.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's just so interesting because it's not included in the interview that everybody listened to last week.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And by the way, if you hadn't had a chance, spend some time on episode 60, which is a phenomenal interview with Jacques, hearing crazy stories about what God does when a person obeys God's direction and God's plan for their life.
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SPEAKER_02: So we actually had a little story that Jacques told us that we did not include in the interview last week.
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SPEAKER_02: And we're actually going to let you listen to it now.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's so cool because it syncs up with this surrender piece.
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SPEAKER_02: So you guys check this out from Jacques.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, Jacques, you and I were having a conversation.
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SPEAKER_02: We were talking about the the dynamic of surrender.
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SPEAKER_02: In our journey with God, there are there are just many points where we need to continue to let go and obey the Lord.
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SPEAKER_02: And your story is a story of obedience and radical surrender.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, and we've we've heard a lot of that.
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SPEAKER_02: But could you uh could you share with us that it's that story about the key and the house that you share with uh kids a lot?
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SPEAKER_00: So when when our children at church get to the age of about 13, 14, we do something um where we welcome them into the family.
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SPEAKER_00: So from primary from um the children's church, we literally will all the men will get together in their lives and we'll give them wisdom and speak into their lives, give them a gift.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the gifts I give them is a story bag, and I give them uh a key.
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SPEAKER_00: And so inside of your story bag, I encourage them through as they go through their life to take little trinkets.
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SPEAKER_00: And when something happens to you that's significant that you need to remember, you throw it in your story bag.
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SPEAKER_00: And then when you're old one day, your kids are gonna sit there, your grandkids, and you're gonna say, Bring the story bag.
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SPEAKER_00: And as you take this out, you literally have all these things that God's done with you in your life, and you can share it with them.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: And so um so the 13, 14-year-olds, I give them this bag and then the the key, and I tell them this is your first trinket because I want to share a story with you today.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, when we go through life, we have parts of our lives that we sometimes give the Lord.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, we give our heart to the Lord, but it's almost like it's a journey to continue to surrender other parts.
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SPEAKER_00: Um if you are in in in need of um recovery or restoration, sometimes it might be an addiction or whatever it is that you're struggling with.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: And so the story goes like this: there was this man, he bought this house, which was his own house.
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SPEAKER_00: He had owned it, um, and it's on this beautiful golf course, it's a double-story building.
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SPEAKER_00: And he decides he doesn't want to live there alone, he wants Jesus to come and live with him.
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SPEAKER_00: So he says, Jesus, would you please come and live with me?
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SPEAKER_00: And I'll give you the best room in the house.
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SPEAKER_00: You'd give Jesus the best, wouldn't you?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, when we want to give him something, we want to give him the best.
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SPEAKER_00: So he basically um gave him the top story of the of the house, and Jesus had this beautiful view.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a jacuzzi, beautiful little kitchenette up there.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: And um Jesus moved in.
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SPEAKER_00: And first day he's sitting downstairs, Jesus is upstairs, and he hears a knock on the door, and um he walks up to the door, and as he opens the door, Satan just forces his way in, and he's like a whirlwind going through that house, and finally gets him out the back door, and he looks back, and everything's a mess.
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SPEAKER_00: And he goes and he starts cleaning up and eventually walks up the staircase to see what it looks like upstairs.
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SPEAKER_00: And as he gets upstairs, he knocks on the door and Jesus opens and everything's in place.
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SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Not a thing was moved.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: And then he says to Jesus, he says, You know, Jesus, um every room that um um that Satan came in was was a mess.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll give you half the house.
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SPEAKER_00: Then you have half, I'll have half.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: And let's see if it goes better.
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SPEAKER_00: So Jesus graciously accepted because one thing we know about God is he'll never force his way into our lives.
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SPEAKER_00: We have to choose to ask him to come in.
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SPEAKER_00: And so sometimes when we need to surrender something, it's something that he will always give us a choice to do.
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SPEAKER_00: He's not like Satan who comes in with a demon to try and take your life over.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, that's the Holy Spirit is gentle and he's kind and he and he loves us and he wants our choice.
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SPEAKER_00: And so this guy gave him half the house the next day, another knock on the door.
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SPEAKER_00: As he just peeped by opening the door, Satan jumped in again and again all the rooms except where Jesus was is a mess.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: And so this guy walks up to Jesus and he says, Listen, listen, Jesus, I would rather live with you.
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SPEAKER_00: Can I give you the key to this house?
19:56
SPEAKER_00: And then I'll just live here.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus took it and he said, Sure.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: And so the next day, knock on the door, and as he opened it, as he started getting up to open the door, Jesus said, No, no, sir, it's my house.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: And he walks up to the door, and when he opens it, Satan's there and he looks up and he sees Jesus and he says, I'm sorry, it's the wrong address.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: Now the now the premise of the story is this is that every room that we keep is a mess.
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SPEAKER_00: And if we have given our lives to Jesus, there's something about lordship.
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SPEAKER_00: Um the disciples, the last night they were with Jesus, when Jesus said, One of you will betray me, every one of them came to him and said, Lord, is it I?
20:43
SPEAKER_00: And then Judas came and said, Rabbi, is it I?
20:47
SPEAKER_00: And so there's a difference between recognizing that Jesus is great and is a great teacher, and him being the Lord of my life.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: And so I think that in our lives, when we have an area that's not good, Jesus doesn't wait for us to clean it up, he just wants to own it.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: And when he does, that's when our our lives get into a place where God can use every part of it.
21:13
SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness, dude.
21:15
SPEAKER_04: He's so stinking good.
21:17
SPEAKER_04: He's so stinking good.
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SPEAKER_02: I now I wish that we had uh sliced up about 50 stories from him that we could use one every week.
21:28
SPEAKER_04: I know, I know, I know.
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SPEAKER_04: He's unbelievable.
21:30
SPEAKER_04: Well, next time that he's here, by the way, we we need a follow-up opportunity for him.
21:34
SPEAKER_04: But what a story, man.
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SPEAKER_04: I know, dude.
21:36
SPEAKER_04: It's so incredible, and there's so much about that that is that runs parallel with our journey with Christ, you know.
21:43
SPEAKER_04: And I I think I see so much of my story in it because there's been times where I've had a room or two or four or five locked off from the Lord, locked off from what I thought was everybody, and such a mess.
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SPEAKER_04: And how the sanctification process.
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SPEAKER_04: Is us slowly revealing, slowly surrendering our entire house over to him, only to have the enemy knock, knock, knock.
22:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry, you got the wrong address, brother.
22:14
SPEAKER_04: Keep on trucking, you know.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: Jesus is like, my house.
22:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:18
SPEAKER_02: This is my house.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: Seriously, though.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so good.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, I loved one of the things that he brought out, and he just said that every room we keep to ourselves or keep for ourselves, and don't invite Jesus into is always going to be a mess.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Always.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: And he doesn't expect us to clean that up because I'm living upstairs.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy that that part of your life is you Richard Rico, get on that.
22:48
SPEAKER_02: No, he doesn't expect that I can clean that up.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: I have I lack the ability to do so.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: But what he says is, I just want the whole house, man.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: I just want to hand over the key.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: It'll be mine, and we'll be good.
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SPEAKER_04: So beautiful because I think so often we think that we have to somehow muster up the ability to clean out our own house.
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SPEAKER_04: I love that on my whole life.
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SPEAKER_04: Before we hand the key over to God.
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SPEAKER_04: And the gospel is all about come as you are.
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SPEAKER_04: It's never about stay that way.
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SPEAKER_04: But it is always about surrendering everything the good, the bad, the ugly, over to Jesus Christ.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's such a beautiful story.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I'd like to end by just straight top to bottom reading you the lyrics of Have Thine Own Way, please.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
23:39
SPEAKER_02: Again, everybody just deal with the old English language here, but see if you can't hear some of these beautiful truths coming out.
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SPEAKER_02: So here it starts with, Have thine own way, Lord, have thine own way.
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SPEAKER_02: Thou art the potter, I am the clay.
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SPEAKER_02: Mold me and make me after thy will.
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SPEAKER_02: Meaning, according to the way you want it.
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SPEAKER_02: Mold me and make me.
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SPEAKER_02: While I am waiting, yielded and still.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, Lord, help this lump of clay, which is me, stay on the table.
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SPEAKER_02: And let Jesus do what he wants to do.
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SPEAKER_02: Instead of fighting against it.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, second verse.
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SPEAKER_02: Have thine own way, Lord, have thine own way.
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SPEAKER_02: Search me and try me, Savior today.
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SPEAKER_02: Whiter than snow, Lord, wash me just now.
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SPEAKER_02: As in thy presence, humbly I bow.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the washing part, right?
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Now we're about that that messy thing that we can't clean up on our own.
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SPEAKER_02: Alright, next verse.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Have thine own way, Lord, have thine own way.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Wounded and weary, help me, I pray.
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SPEAKER_02: The power, all power surely is thine.
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SPEAKER_02: Touch me and heal me, Savior divine.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think that might be my favorite verse.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Because it's about the healing piece.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: And don't we know?
25:07
SPEAKER_02: Kind of like what you were saying, especially going through a real brokenness for me and for us, addiction was a part of our our greatest brokenness.
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SPEAKER_02: Our most severe brokenness.
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SPEAKER_02: And I just know that God wants to heal me.
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SPEAKER_02: And if I ask him to, and if I let him, he will heal me.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: And he is healing me.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, the the song ends.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: Have thine own way, Lord, have thine own way.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: Hold over my being absolute sway.
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SPEAKER_02: Like you are in charge.
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SPEAKER_02: 100%.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: Hold over my being absolute sway.
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SPEAKER_02: Filled with your spirit till all shall see.
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SPEAKER_02: Christ only always living in me.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: So the song ends with this picture of what life could be like.
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SPEAKER_02: If I allow God to hold over my being and my life absolute this way, absolute driving the train, absolute hand on the wheel.
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SPEAKER_02: You are driving it, Lord.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: And the picture that we see is that as we go through our lives, everybody who observes our life will not see, oh, look how cool Rico is.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: Or wow, Brad really did good for himself, didn't he?
26:36
SPEAKER_02: Now what they'll really see is Christ in us shining through us.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: Woo! Make it so, Lord.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: Have thine own way.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: Boom.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Love it.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Hey, listen, I got a segment uh transition.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: All right.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: And and look, this comes from a conversation that you and I had not 30 minutes ago.
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unknown: Okay.
27:01
SPEAKER_05: All right.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: You were just giving me a quick recap of a scheduled thing from this past weekend.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh yeah.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: And you said that you and your wife, because you had your your mom.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: Lisa's mom.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Lisa's mom and dad.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: Watched the kids.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: So y'all had a date night, which by the way, well go ahead.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: Shout out.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: And thank you to all grandparents that will watch the kids so that the mom and dad can have a date night.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, crying out loud.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: That's a big deal.
27:36
SPEAKER_04: And you're also on that list.
27:37
SPEAKER_04: So as a grandparent that watched that.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: So uh and you just happened to mention so we went to a couple shower.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: And you just went on telling story of things.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: And all I heard after the phrase couple shower was like the Charlie Brown, you know, the adults in the com in the cartoons.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: And I just realized this is another thing that Rick Rico is so old and so grumpy.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm a grumpy old man.
28:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: All right.
28:09
SPEAKER_04: Hey, awareness is half the battle.
28:12
SPEAKER_04: Grumpy, old 61.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: You're old.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: So I heard you say couple shower, and it just, and I've been to couple showers, you know, baby shower, uh, wedding shower.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: I it's happened.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: It's happened to me multiple times over the recent decade or so.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: Right?
28:29
SPEAKER_02: But it just for it threw me off because I look, I thought back and I thought, my entire life, probably the first 40, 50 years of my life.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: There was there was never an expectation for a dude to go to a baby shower or a wedding shower.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: Couple shower.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: What's going on, man?
28:50
SPEAKER_02: What's this about?
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Crying.
28:53
SPEAKER_04: It should only be the women getting together and swapping gifts.
28:57
SPEAKER_04: Dude, I'm sorry.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry to Lisa.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: In fact, it was a dear friend.
29:02
SPEAKER_04: I know it was Evan.
29:03
SPEAKER_04: It was our dear friend, Evan Henson, and his fiancee Kelsey was their wedding shower.
29:09
SPEAKER_04: No, hey, I'm with you.
29:10
SPEAKER_04: And honestly, I don't live in a world where I don't go to wedding showers, you know?
29:15
SPEAKER_04: Like I have only ever known because it's been, you know, at least I've been married for 12 years, and we did a a couple's shower.
29:24
SPEAKER_04: And every I feel like every you know, good friend or you know, couple or wedding party that we've been able to be a part of has also done the the couples shower thing.
29:33
SPEAKER_04: And it's just an excuse for the guys to like tag along and hang out.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: But it's just the default, right?
29:40
SPEAKER_04: It's always just it's it's all that I've ever known.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: But you started off by saying that you know, Lisa and I went on a date night, which at a at a certain point in my life, I'd be like, that was not a date night.
29:52
SPEAKER_04: That was uh we had to go to a wedding shower.
29:56
SPEAKER_04: There was something that we had to go to, but you said the magic words.
29:59
SPEAKER_04: We had grandparents watch the kids.
30:02
SPEAKER_04: So here's the deal PSA for all of our listeners out there.
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SPEAKER_04: I don't care if we're in your wedding party or not.
30:09
SPEAKER_04: You invite us to your wedding shower, and we will come because it means that we get a night away from the kids.
30:18
SPEAKER_04: So I just want to be a permanent invite to all future wedding shows.
30:23
SPEAKER_04: So not only am I okay with couple showers, I'm asking for more.
30:28
SPEAKER_04: My hand is raised.
30:30
SPEAKER_04: Bring it on.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: You know how much fun Lisa and I had?
30:34
SPEAKER_04: It took us three hours, three full hours of that first part of the wedding shower to like detox from being around the kids.
30:44
SPEAKER_04: It was like three hours and 30 minutes long.
30:47
SPEAKER_04: We got 30 fun minutes.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Everybody else is ready to go, and you're like, we're just getting where's everybody going?
30:53
SPEAKER_03: Like, Brad, it's nine o'clock.
30:55
SPEAKER_03: We're ready to go home.
30:56
SPEAKER_03: No, I don't want to go home.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: We do.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: Look, we we we all love our children, we especially Brad and Lisa.
31:07
SPEAKER_04: I we do.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: But just some time away is a good thing.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: It was oh my goodness.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: And uh to all the uh all the couples out there, I apologize if I I just sound like you know, angry old old guy.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Get off my lawn, you kids these days, you know, whatever.
31:23
SPEAKER_04: There's been a lot of change in the uh in the wedding, you know, atmosphere over the last, even just the last 10 years, but that's a whole nother segment, you know.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh boy, but anyway, so I I'm glad you guys got a little time away.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: I surrender that takeover to you.
31:38
SPEAKER_02: Circle back.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: Circle.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's nobody better.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: He's big in the business.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: But uh, hey, can we just use this opportunity to to say to Evan Henson and his fiance's name is Kelsey.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Kelsey, y'all are awesome.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and to all our listeners, if for any reason that you missed our interview with Evan Henson a few couple months ago, yeah, you gotta go back and listen to that.
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SPEAKER_02: Happy uh wedding shower, wedded bliss, forthcoming, all is well.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: To the Hensons.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: Everybody raise a glass.
32:16
SPEAKER_04: Raise a glass to the Hensons and raise a glass to uh your brackets.
32:19
SPEAKER_04: May Mark ever be in your favor.
32:21
SPEAKER_02: Love it, love it.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: Hey, we gotta tell you guys about one last thing.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: Next week in Sermons on the Sideland, this is gonna be big.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, you can't.
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SPEAKER_02: We got something special for you.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: We are going to do the thing.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: But we drop a mini episode every day, Monday through Friday, and it is happening next week.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be Easter week.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: It's leading up to Good Friday and Easter weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: We have an episode per day, specially designed to help get our minds and our hearts ready for Easter weekend.
32:57
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SPEAKER_02: Woo!
33:17
SPEAKER_04: Hey, you need some better friends, is what I'm saying.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, you're probably right.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: Did I say that out loud?
33:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I should have.
33:27
SPEAKER_04: I was making a joke.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: You were supposed to agree with that.
33:30
SPEAKER_04: I'm just kidding.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: But uh got good stuff, and I mean, heaven.
33:36
SPEAKER_04: Did uh did Bryce do a couple shower?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, yeah, they did.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they did.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, and uh, but they did like there was like a it felt like a shower every other day for months.
33:52
SPEAKER_04: It was a monsoon.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: It was just it wasn't a shower, it was a no, they just they had multiple showers and and it was awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: But uh there was a couple of things.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, speaking of showers.
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SPEAKER_04: All right.
34:04
SPEAKER_04: Okay, this has got me thinking about wedding stuff.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: Soon and very soon, I've gotta tell you about when Lisa and I got married and the gifts that we got.
34:14
SPEAKER_04: And and the and the just here's the story of the trip to uh Bed Bath and Beyond.
34:20
SPEAKER_04: That's all I'm gonna tease out.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: But I've gotta I've gotta share that story.
34:23
SPEAKER_04: Have I ever told you that story before?
34:25
SPEAKER_04: Oh, is that a segment?
34:28
SPEAKER_04: No, I think it's a whole daggum episode.
34:31
SPEAKER_04: Yes, true.
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SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
34:33
SPEAKER_04: I might have to tell that story.
34:34
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, it can be a segment.
34:36
SPEAKER_04: It can be a segment.
34:36
SPEAKER_04: Right.
34:37
SPEAKER_04: How about it being a segment of the next episode?
34:39
SPEAKER_04: All right, that's cool.
34:40
SPEAKER_04: It is because I I let me go like um I need to talk to the police to make sure I get the specifics.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
34:47
SPEAKER_04: Dude, it's unbelievable.
34:49
SPEAKER_04: This is a great teaser.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Bed Bath and Beyond, episode next.