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From the Court to the Courtroom: Lessons in Leadership with Brice Else · Justice Team Podcast

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  Bob: Welcome to this episode of the justice team podcast
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  on the justice team network.
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  I am Bob Simon, your host today, and we are honored to
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  have the Bryce else on Bryce.
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  What's up, my bro?
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  Brice: That would be me.
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  My man.
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  Everything's good.
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  It's always good.
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  Bob: So today we're going to be talking.
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  Bryce is known in the community as coach Bryce coach else.
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  Um, so we're going to talk about the principles of coaching.
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  Bryce has.
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  Mentored a lot of youth in the Compton and greater Los Angeles area.
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  He has coached basketball at a high level.
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  He actually coached in the WNBA.
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  Is that right?
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  When it first started.
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  I was one of the
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  Brice: initial, initial coaches when it first started.
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  Yes.
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  Bob: And, uh, Bryce also played professional baseball.
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  What a career.
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  Could
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  Brice: write a book.
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  Bob: Could write a book.
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  And then It may sell two copies too.
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  Well, me and someone else will buy that book, I guess.
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  But Bryce also, um, is the owner of a company called Law Firm
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  Rides with he and his wife, Ellen.
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  Our firm uses them for transportation for our clients and our lawyers So
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  we're going to talk to bryce about things that he sees with lawyers in
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  cars lawyers and clients in cars and some do's and don'ts Um from the real
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  perspective on the real Absolutely.
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  So Bryce, what are some things that you think, cause you've seen a lot of
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  trials, you've observed a lot because of what you do and you've been in
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  this, this, this game for a long time.
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  What are some applications that you think when you, when you're
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  teaching youth sports, what are some things that principles of
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  coaching that apply to, to lawyering?
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  Brice: Um, that's a great question.
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  One of the things I believe you can connect it to is from,
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  uh, just leadership skills.
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  You know, as a coach, uh, you have to be trusted as an attorney.
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  You have to be trusted.
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  I've seen, uh, you know, some clients and they're kind of a little fearful when
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  they're going in and then when the trust factor builds in and there's a connection,
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  it works out really well for the client.
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  You can see the relaxation come upon the client.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And have you seen any, have you been in situations where you think
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  the client trust is not there with the lawyer that you're observing
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  and, and how does that play out?
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  Brice: I've seen that as well.
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  I mean, yes, I've seen that as well, where You know, the, uh, client
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  has a, a fear factor of we're not doing what the attorney's not,
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  doesn't have their best interests.
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  For instance, they don't return their phone calls.
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  They're asking questions and they can't get answers.
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  They're calling the office and there's no response.
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  It's taken them, you know, hours and days and sometimes
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  even weeks to get back to them.
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  And so that's where the distrust comes in.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  Cause you, your company, um, and before you started your
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  company, you were driving for.
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  For law firms as well, like you take a lot of clients to medical appointments.
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  We
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  Brice: take a lot of clients, with a lot of head
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  Bob: trauma,
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  Brice: back issues, and different things like that.
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  So we're, we're tied in there.
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  So we hear and see a lot.
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  But one thing for sure, what happens in the backseat, what's said in the
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  backseat, stays in the backseat.
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  I
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  Bob: like that, that's uh, Very Vegas y, Bryce.
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  But I mean, but that's, I mean, it's all the confidentiality
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  and stuff that goes with it.
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  But what are some things, you know, we don't have to name names
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  or talk specifics, but what, what, what can lawyers do better?
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  I mean, you were in the car with people that are catastrophically injured,
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  going through surgery, and you hear the complaints and things that they say.
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  What are some things if lawyers and law firms are out there
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  listening, what could we do better?
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  Brice: I believe it's just more of a communication.
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  Thank you.
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  Sometimes you have to just literally hold their hand every step of the way.
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  If we can hold their hand and again, just like coaching, if you can hold their
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  hand and make them believe that you have their best interest at heart, if you
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  can tie those two things together, Yeah.
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  Bob: Another thing that I think you do very well, you know, you started
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  organizations for youth sports, but you also build community within the community.
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  Absolutely.
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  So, you know, how, and I think that's important in the legal industry.
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  What are some things that you've done?
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  Cause with your community roots, um, it's almost like you're an activist in the
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  area and everybody knows who you are.
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  Like I've been in the car with price and people just coach Bryce.
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  What's up?
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  Like we were at, um.
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  Proto where the hologram place remember?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  John Sally was there the spider.
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  He's like coach Bryce, you know, there's just touched so many
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  lives But but how do you think how do you inspire that community
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  building even whenever it you know?
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  It's it's very tough to do where you're dealing with kids and we're dealing
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  with clients that have or in a bad home situation Like how do you pull that out?
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  Brice: You
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  Bob: know,
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  Brice: it goes back to the word trust People have to know that you're there
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  for them period And again that it all ties in together if they trust
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  you that you have their best interest at heart Then you can get them to
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  do and believe anything Don't lie.
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  Bob: Don't lie.
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  Brice: Don't lie.
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  Bob: And that's what um, you know with lawyers out there.
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  I think communications Paramount even if it's as simple as sending a text
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  message a week to check in on folks And you know, a lot of us, if you don't,
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  you're not comfortable giving out your cell phone number, I know I do, but
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  if not, you could do it through your case management platform and you can
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  track the communications between your client, ask them how they're feeling.
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  That goes a long way.
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  Brice: That goes a long way.
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  And it's funny you say that because, uh, even some of the attorneys that
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  I drive, I shoot them a text message, just to say, hi, say, how you doing?
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  You're in town again.
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  Give me a call.
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  I do that with the clients and I give them my cell phone number.
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  You can call me anytime.
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  And you can call me at three o'clock in the morning.
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  I'm coming.
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  Bob: It's funny.
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  I have been in the car with Bryce at three o'clock in the morning, whenever
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  I've had a few, two drinks and it's very entertaining for him, but he will
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  be on the phone with the next player.
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  That's maybe 30 years old now and has a life situation.
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  And that's the kind of trust that, that you've instilled
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  from that leadership position.
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  I love my players.
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  Brice: I love them.
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  Like they're my biological kids.
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  I have kids.
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  I can't even count how many kids I have.
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  I love them.
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  And again, if they know that you, that you genuinely care for them, they're
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  going to continue to reach out to you.
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  And I'm, I'm so fortunate and blessed that that happens.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And then you have the network effect, you know, especially for us and what we do.
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  If you take care of people, they tell everybody that you take care of them.
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  They give you their numbers so that you have more clients, but it all comes
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  from earning that trust and doing the right thing and doing right by them.
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  Absolutely.
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  Brice: You have to do right.
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  And again,
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  Bob: Don't
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  Brice: lie, be honest and be truthful, be above board.
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  If you have those things going on for yourself, you'll go a long way.
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  I've, I've gotten a lot of doors opened for me and I, I believe
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  it's because I try to be truthful.
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  Bob: Yeah.
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  And then what are some things that you've seen lawyers do, whether in your
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  car or things that you've seen or heard that are some missteps that you think?
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  Brice: Everything.
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  Communication, when you don't communicate with people and someone
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  doesn't know what to expect from you, then that's a, that's a problem.
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  Because everyone wants to be, feel
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  Bob: as though they're the most important
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  Brice: thing.
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  Bob: What are some?
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  Rude things or any pet peeves of yours that that people do in your
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  car When you're working with them.
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  Yes in the front seat.
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  Brice: I always sit in the front seat.
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  Well, no, that doesn't count You don't know but yeah when people
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  sit in the front seat Yeah, that's just a pet peeve of mine.
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  Bob: It's more of an intimate type thing and you don't have your And I really
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  Brice: don't know them.
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  I mean, you know, when they sit in the front seat and you really
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  don't know them, it can be sticky.
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  But for the most part, everybody's my friend, so front
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  Bob: seat's always open.
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  Well, I love it.
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  And you know, for those of you who don't know Coach Bryce, he literally
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  has started a company and a lot of his friends work for the company now,
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  a lot of people in the community, so people that He is mentored or his
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  friends circle are within the company.
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  I think that's the trust factor whenever You whenever I call your company and
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  it's if it's not bryce and usually does a lot with us and our family But every
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  single person from richard to barbara to aaron, etc Just a fantastic human
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  beings that generally care about you that we trust our clients with and I think
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  that's a huge thing because whenever You know us lawyers out there if you're
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  providing transportation for your clients getting to and from doctor's appointments
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  That's a very special thing Right.
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  They have to have a white glove service and they have to obviously be on time,
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  but that likability trust factor.
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  Right.
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  Brice: We're going to treat you like you're our own because you are our own.
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  You are family to us and that's how we view everyone.
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  You're family and you're getting to and from your destination safely.
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  That's our goal and we want you to call us again.
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  Bob: Um, so the last question for you.
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  Well, two questions.
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  Are the Dodgers going to win the World Series and are the Lakers
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  going to win the NBA championship 2024 2025 season for the Lakers?
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  Brice: The Dodgers will win before I pass away.
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  And LeBron,
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  Bob: he's not going to make it, not going to make it, not going to make it.
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  I think him and Bronny, I think LeBron's gonna, Lead the league and assist this
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  year to a son, just like the Griffey's did, you know, that kind of handover.
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  Brice: He's going to lead the league and assist because he's
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  going to take his son to, they may go to a Denny's or something too.
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  That's about it.
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  Bob: Not going anywhere else.
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  Hard to hear from Coach Ellis.
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  Brice: Bryce, how do people get ahold of you?
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  You can always reach me at, uh, you can go to law firm rides.
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  You go to our website, lawfirmrides.
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  com and you can find us there, info.
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  And you can reach me on my cell.
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  I get my cell out to everybody.
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  I'm going to answer 310 704 8954.
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  Give me a call.
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  I promise I'll pick up
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  Bob: and I'll be on my way.
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  I love it.
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  Well, thank you for listening to this episode of the Justice Team
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  Podcast on the Justice Team Network.
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  Go to justiceteamnetwork.
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  com if you have any questions or want to be on the show or have any
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  things you want us to talk about.
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  And thank you Bryce Dells for coming on this Principles of Coaching and getting
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  a literally front seat education on what's going on, clients to lawyers.
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  Thank you, buddy.
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  Brice: I'm
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  Bob: glad to be here.