Latest / What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie? / #215: Knock at the Cabin (2023)

Transcript

#215: Knock at the Cabin (2023) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

• 0:06
  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
• 0:12
  I agree with you. You haven't.
• 0:15
  You haven't done anything wrong to to deserve this burden.
• 0:20
  Welcome to Watch Your Least Favorite Scary Movie, The
• 0:22
  podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and the
• 0:25
  absurd and all of our. Favorites and least favorites
• 0:27
  Scary movies because we believe every horror movie rightfully
• 0:29
  has its fan base. Even if we don't always.
• 0:31
  Get it? My name is Travis.
• 0:32
  My name is Jesse. And welcome back, everybody.
• 0:35
  We are continuing on with our Pride Month on this show.
• 0:38
  Yeah, happy pride, everybody. We are going to be talking about
• 0:43
  Knock at the Cabin today. This is going to be our very
• 0:47
  first time covering an M Night Shyamalan movie.
• 0:49
  So we're we're going into brand new territory here today,
• 0:54
  everybody. Indeed we are.
• 0:55
  Yeah, that was a really dark quote that you pulled.
• 0:58
  OK, well there are really dark themes in this movie, so I don't
• 1:02
  know what you want me to do I. Thought they you would maybe
• 1:04
  like find a nice quote like Leonard says some nice things to
• 1:08
  win. I I.
• 1:10
  Think that's the extent of the nice, like the pleasantries, but
• 1:13
  yeah. I, you know, I went with what I
• 1:16
  went with. You could have just said you
• 1:18
  like grasshoppers. I'm really good at catching
• 1:21
  grasshoppers. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:22
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:24
  So yeah, we're talking about knock at the Gavin.
• 1:26
  But before we get into our discussion, Jesse, do you have
• 1:29
  anything you'd like to announce? Just a reminder that all of our
• 1:32
  Patreon earnings this month will be donated towards The Trevor
• 1:36
  Project. This is a service that helps
• 1:38
  LGBTQ youth in crisis. Yes, they need all of the
• 1:42
  funding they can get. And so if you want to, you know,
• 1:47
  make a donation in the name of pride while also getting some
• 1:53
  cool, like information like cool.
• 1:55
  Bonus content. Bonus content.
• 1:57
  Thank you. Sorry, there's a weed whacker
• 1:58
  going outside. I was.
• 1:59
  That distracted me too. Yeah, focus that out there.
• 2:02
  It's like, is somebody dragging something on the pavement or is
• 2:04
  that somebody actually doing work out there?
• 2:05
  It's like, it's like the weed whacker went through my brain.
• 2:10
  But yeah. So if you want to have access to
• 2:13
  all that bonus content and also make a donation to a service
• 2:16
  that is fantastic for LGBTQ use, you can find the link at the
• 2:20
  very bottom of our show notes. Yeah.
• 2:21
  And thanks everybody that is actually donating right now or a
• 2:25
  patron because your money is going to a great 'cause we
• 2:28
  really appreciate you guys doing that.
• 2:29
  Absolutely. All right, I have our poll
• 2:32
  results. OK, so we talked about Repo the
• 2:36
  Genetic Opera last week and we just wanted to check and see how
• 2:41
  you guys feel about who should be running the company after
• 2:45
  Roddy passes. So we had Amber, Luigi and
• 2:51
  Poppy. So we'll kick it on over to
• 2:54
  Instagram first, who has 78% Amber as the leader and 22% want
• 2:59
  Luigi, so Paris Hilton or Bill Mosley.
• 3:03
  OK, it's sad that I could actually see this be like
• 3:06
  presidential candidates and like like a reality situation here.
• 3:12
  Over on Twitter, though, we have 11% Pavi, 67% Amber and 22%
• 3:19
  again for Luigi. So Amber wins.
• 3:22
  Amber wins. Yeah, and some of you guys
• 3:24
  actually like gave us reasoning for why you chose who you did.
• 3:27
  Some of you guys were very funny.
• 3:28
  Some of you guys were really thought out.
• 3:29
  What's your response? But yeah.
• 3:32
  Shout out to my favorite response to them, which was from
• 3:35
  Tyler who said that she would bring a new face to the company.
• 3:39
  I I like that. Mad at a?
• 3:41
  Punch. No, He he said.
• 3:42
  If there's ever somebody that needs to face off, well, yeah.
• 3:47
  Whatever. It's the same.
• 3:48
  I like your thing too, though. I like that we have Amber who
• 3:52
  actually is, you know, Amber. So she's like, I have no
• 3:56
  context, but I got I go with my Amber.
• 3:58
  OK. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:59
  Also a fair reasoning. I got to go with her, too.
• 4:01
  I mean, it's Paris Hilton. I think out of all of the three
• 4:04
  of them there, she's probably the most qualified.
• 4:07
  I think she's probably the most motivated.
• 4:10
  Most motivated? Going.
• 4:12
  Yeah, I guess Poppy's like a dark horse, like he could be a
• 4:17
  potential great leader, but he's just too distracted with those
• 4:20
  faces. OK, whatever.
• 4:22
  That's the poll results, so let's talk about Knock at the
• 4:25
  Cabin. OK.
• 4:26
  All right. What if my opening had just
• 4:28
  been? I would generally like that
• 4:31
  that. Could be something I just
• 4:33
  thought about. It now do it seven times it's 7
• 4:35
  knocks, but we're not going to do that OK knockout the cabin
• 4:40
  release February 3rd 2023. We watched it on Peacock because
• 4:46
  that is currently the only place you can rinse or you can stream
• 4:49
  it at if you have a streaming service.
• 4:51
  But you can rinse it on Apple, Google, YouTube or Fandango at
• 4:56
  home. Formally Voodoo written by Paul
• 5:01
  Tremblay which the book that this is based.
• 5:04
  On is. From thank you.
• 5:06
  No, the cabinet at the end of the woods.
• 5:07
  No, no, at the end of the world. You're right.
• 5:10
  I think I got I think my brain finished the rest of that for
• 5:13
  me. It's like you got this, Travis.
• 5:15
  Don't worry. You know the end.
• 5:16
  You know how this? Is I'm just going to check out
• 5:19
  now, yeah. No shit.
• 5:21
  I do that a lot. Like, come on man, you got this.
• 5:23
  This is just cruise control, baby.
• 5:25
  Yeah, I I live with you. I've seen your brain cruise
• 5:28
  control. Funny.
• 5:29
  Yeah, it's not very good. All right, so we have the
• 5:32
  screenplay adapted by M Night Shyamalan himself, Steve Desmond
• 5:37
  and Michael Sherman. OK.
• 5:39
  Directed by M Night Shyamalan Music by Hardy Stefanos Stefan
• 5:46
  Stefan's It's Stefan Stouter Stefan Stouter Stefan Stouter
• 5:57
  Special effects Makeup Patchward Patchward Got I'm Doing It
• 6:01
  Again. Patrick Edward White and Dane
• 6:04
  Wilson, with Chirac Agrostra doing the CG supervision.
• 6:10
  OK, all right, Because there's a lot of super.
• 6:13
  There's a lot of CG in this. Yeah.
• 6:15
  It's less effect savvy and more like, here's some visual shit
• 6:19
  that's going on. Well, I mean, like, practical
• 6:22
  effects, that is. Yeah.
• 6:23
  All right. Starring Jonathan Groff as Eric,
• 6:26
  Ben Aldridge's Andrew, Kristen Qui as When Dave Bautista as
• 6:31
  Leonard, Nikki Amaka Byrd as Sabrina, Rupert Grint as Redmond
• 6:37
  and Abby Quinn as Adrian. OK.
• 6:39
  Time for our favorite game on the show, Budget or But Dad,
• 6:45
  what do you think? I'm gonna say that it's Budget
• 6:50
  because it's Shyamalan and it's Groff and it's Bautista.
• 6:56
  I don't know Groff. Who's Groff?
• 6:57
  Like what was Gruff been in? I don't know, but I recognize
• 7:00
  the name. You do OK.
• 7:01
  I I didn't see. I I thought Andrew looked like a
• 7:04
  bigger person. I thought Andrew was the guy
• 7:10
  from that Shutter movie. Scare me where?
• 7:12
  They're in the cabin. Yeah, he looks a little bit like
• 7:15
  him now. Oh, he's Kristoff and Frozen.
• 7:19
  That's how I. Recognize, Yeah, OK.
• 7:23
  All right, so you're correct, this is $20 million for the
• 7:27
  budget, so double our standard for actual being budget opening
• 7:31
  weekend they hit $14 million worldwide gross 54.7 million.
• 7:37
  All right, that's not bad. It didn't, It didn't make what
• 7:41
  it needs to be profitable, but maybe they like got money from
• 7:45
  streaming in home media. So maybe.
• 7:47
  IMDb 6.1 out of 10. OK.
• 7:50
  And I will say home media is not dead.
• 7:52
  There's plenty of like you see all these places like still
• 7:56
  buying. You see sales figures, like a
• 7:59
  lot of them are being bought. So like it's not like a dead
• 8:02
  thing. So I mean people are still
• 8:04
  making money. It's just nowhere near what it
• 8:06
  used to be back in like the video store days.
• 8:09
  All right, so I have a theme for three movies I released in 2023.
• 8:14
  I decided to make a poem with the titles of the movies that is
• 8:20
  very much related to this movie. It's almost like a haiku, but
• 8:25
  it's not because it's it doesn't meet the syllable requirements.
• 8:28
  But just imagine that this is a mini haiku.
• 8:31
  OK? Do you want me to do all three
• 8:33
  of them at once? And then we'll.
• 8:34
  No, no. No, we'll do the slow.
• 8:36
  Reveal. Yeah, and then and then at the
• 8:38
  end read the whole poem. So movie #1 unwelcome.
• 8:43
  OK. Released March 14th, 2023 with
• 8:46
  the $392,000 budget. I thought you were going to
• 8:50
  stay. No.
• 8:51
  Gross. That was the gross.
• 8:53
  Sorry, I I wrote it down in the budget here, but I had to like
• 8:55
  do the little arrow over like, hey, you meant to write it right
• 8:57
  there, Travis. OK.
• 8:59
  So no budget listed, but the gross was 392,000.
• 9:02
  Is your brain gonna come back at any point?
• 9:05
  I think I might have. Take it off the cruise control.
• 9:08
  I think I might have just fixed it.
• 9:09
  It's fine. I did this like first thing in
• 9:10
  the morning today. OK, so like whatever.
• 9:13
  IMDb 5.3 out of 10. OK, I've not heard of this.
• 9:18
  Maybe at? All.
• 9:18
  I haven't either. It seemed like it was
• 9:21
  interesting enough. It's a well, actually, I don't
• 9:24
  think that you would like it. And now that I'm remembering it,
• 9:27
  I think I kind of vaguely remember hearing about it.
• 9:30
  But it's about like this family moving to a remote location and
• 9:33
  they are being haunted by, I think, gnomes.
• 9:38
  Oh no. Something like that.
• 9:40
  They're like goblins. Or something.
• 9:42
  But yeah, it it doesn't seem to me like a Jesse type of movie.
• 9:48
  So unwelcome. All right, movie #2.
• 9:51
  Unwelcome. The sacrifice game.
• 9:54
  OK. Release date December 8th, 2023.
• 9:58
  No budget listed. Worldwide gross 301 thousand.
• 10:02
  IMDb 5.5. I haven't seen that, but we we
• 10:09
  should probably watch that because it seems very much like
• 10:11
  a Jesse movie and it's a shot. Movie that makes up for
• 10:13
  suggesting a no movie to me. I wasn't suggesting.
• 10:16
  Yeah, I was just like, I'm just talking about it.
• 10:20
  I don't even know if it's gnomes.
• 10:21
  It could have been goblins. I don't know, but I pictured
• 10:23
  gnomes whenever I read the description, so OK, the final
• 10:28
  one, the final movie is You're Killing Me.
• 10:32
  Wow. Released.
• 10:36
  Unwelcome. Hold on.
• 10:38
  Yeah, Sorry. Go ahead.
• 10:39
  Yeah. It's unwelcome.
• 10:41
  The sacrifice game. You're killing me.
• 10:46
  So they're unwelcome now they're playing the sacrifice game and
• 10:49
  then at the end when he's dying, he's actually saying you're
• 10:51
  killing me. Oh my God.
• 10:53
  I thought it was pretty good. I, I, I do appreciate it you put
• 10:57
  in the word for that. OK, you're killing me.
• 10:59
  Or at least April 7th, 2023. No budgets, no worldwide gross,
• 11:04
  but the IMDb was 4.9. OK all.
• 11:08
  Right, all right. That was a fun theme.
• 11:13
  All right, I'm glad that. Howie Scott, a reaction.
• 11:17
  OK, tagline. There's two, one on the poster.
• 11:21
  Save your family or save humanity.
• 11:23
  Make the choice. I mean, it's not creative, but
• 11:28
  it does explain what the movie's about.
• 11:32
  If you don't want to watch the trailer all.
• 11:33
  Right. Well, let me hit you with the
• 11:34
  second one. Make the choice.
• 11:37
  OK, they're. Just like, hey, let's just do a
• 11:39
  little bit less. Yeah, do less.
• 11:41
  Yeah, I agree. I feel like.
• 11:43
  Something that people have been saying to him, Night Shyamalan
• 11:45
  his entire career. Do less or do more.
• 11:48
  Some people wanted him to do more sometimes.
• 11:51
  Like I think do more right after science or not science 6th sense
• 11:57
  and. Then or.
• 11:58
  Gradually after that is do less. Maybe.
• 12:01
  I think people wanted him to do more with the happening.
• 12:03
  They're like, do do more. Like what the fuck is this?
• 12:06
  What? No.
• 12:10
  Yeah, so tagline's not so great here.
• 12:13
  Well, we've got got some work to do there.
• 12:16
  Yeah, OK. I do have our fun facts though.
• 12:19
  So as we have already discussed, this was adapted from Tromboy's
• 12:24
  novel, which already had a film option that he signed for with
• 12:28
  us back in 2017. So.
• 12:30
  OK, so this was a wail in the making.
• 12:32
  It was, yeah. And they knew that this was
• 12:34
  going to end up becoming a movie eventually.
• 12:37
  It was whenever it was already written by Steve Desmond and
• 12:40
  Michael Sherman, listed as one of the most popular unproduced
• 12:44
  screenplays in 2019. I could see that like it is a
• 12:48
  compelling kind of idea. Yeah, I, I agree.
• 12:52
  I like, I can imagine this grabbing a lot of people because
• 12:55
  it starts and then you get right to it.
• 12:58
  Shyamalan actually read it originally, and then he wanted
• 13:01
  to produce it, but then eventually he went and talked
• 13:07
  with Universal. He ended up getting A2 Picture
• 13:09
  Deal. This is funny because these are
• 13:12
  the two movies that we have. Old and this movie were part of
• 13:15
  A2 Picture Deal, so I feel like we have to watch Old even more
• 13:19
  now. So yeah, Old came out in 2021.
• 13:24
  So he moved on into this, and whenever by the time it came
• 13:26
  back to that, he's like, you know what?
• 13:27
  Like I'm really excited about it, I want to direct it and
• 13:29
  stuff. So he went and did a whole
• 13:32
  rewrite of the script and that's why he's attached as a
• 13:35
  screenplay, why he's got a credit there now too.
• 13:39
  OK, which I wonder which one of them changed the ending?
• 13:42
  He did. OK.
• 13:43
  Yes, he, well, we'll go and talk about that.
• 13:46
  That was going to be one of my things later on.
• 13:48
  But yeah, I mean, he did change the engine, engine.
• 13:51
  He changed the ending because he wanted something more certain
• 13:56
  and he didn't want it to be that dark.
• 14:00
  But it's a dark subject. It is, yeah.
• 14:05
  OK, let me go through this stuff.
• 14:07
  Like the IT changes the whole. I agree.
• 14:10
  Hold on. Let me go through this a little
• 14:12
  bit more organically because I I'm like working towards
• 14:14
  something here. Nothing grand or anything.
• 14:18
  This is just my flow that I've got.
• 14:21
  OK, so filming began in Burlington County, New Jersey.
• 14:26
  That's where this was shot. They shot with lenses from the
• 14:30
  90s to give it an old school thriller look, which I thought
• 14:33
  that that was really cool that they did that.
• 14:36
  I've read a lot of people using older lens to like get that old
• 14:40
  feeling and really apparently does a really good job of
• 14:43
  capturing that. I didn't really catch it
• 14:45
  watching this. It still looked very modern to
• 14:47
  me, but you know. What?
• 14:48
  No part of that felt 90s to me. That's fine.
• 14:53
  This is actually the only M Night Shyamalan film or the only
• 14:58
  or the 2nd in that Shamwan film to receive an R rating, which I
• 15:05
  feel like this has to be the softest R rating I've ever seen
• 15:08
  in a movie. This makes sense.
• 15:10
  No, the other one was the happening.
• 15:13
  Oh yeah, that does have like a lot.
• 15:15
  Of suicides, yeah, it gets, it gets pretty that one a little
• 15:20
  bit more and this one has like mass death.
• 15:21
  But you don't get over the marky mark of it all, so.
• 15:25
  Yeah, nobody can. Yeah, it's a little bit too
• 15:27
  funky. But like, yeah, this one has
• 15:30
  like a lot of deaths going on, but it's not like it's, it's
• 15:33
  just kind of like you see a news broadcast, which we see that
• 15:36
  shit all the time without like having censors at all.
• 15:40
  Like, they show that shit on the news no matter what.
• 15:42
  So it was really weird. OK, so now we're going to the
• 15:47
  notable differences between the book and the movie.
• 15:49
  So if you don't want to have the book spoiled for you, go ahead
• 15:53
  and skip a little bit from here. But so the main thing in the
• 15:59
  book, the main biggest difference is it's not Eric that
• 16:02
  dies, it's Wind that dies. And.
• 16:06
  It happens as a result of a struggle for the gun between
• 16:10
  them and it accidentally misfires and it kills her.
• 16:13
  So she doesn't even actually count as a sacrifice.
• 16:16
  Right. Which is really fucking weird.
• 16:19
  Like I feel like that should count, but I guess it has to be
• 16:22
  deliberate. Yeah, it the whole thing is that
• 16:24
  it's got to be a choice made willingly, which is stupid to
• 16:28
  begin with because you tie them up to chairs, but whatever.
• 16:32
  Well, they're trying to convince them.
• 16:34
  I think it's the thing like they're like they're ultimately
• 16:37
  making them do it, but like they have to talk them down to that
• 16:40
  point. And also in that like they don't
• 16:44
  make a choice of who does it. So they decide that they're
• 16:48
  going to be together forever and they're going to face the world
• 16:52
  and see whatever happens. So they don't know if that
• 16:55
  sacrifice ends up counting or if that well, they.
• 16:59
  Also said that they don't want to appease whatever kind of a
• 17:02
  being would cause them to destroy their family.
• 17:06
  Yes, so just. Kind of the whole whole big
• 17:10
  theme because there's like a lot of there's a lot of like talks
• 17:16
  of religion and spirituality in this movie.
• 17:19
  And I think it's something that has to kind of go hand in hand
• 17:23
  when you are talking about a gay couple that has faced incredibly
• 17:27
  intense persecution. You can't ignore that link
• 17:33
  there. And I think that's really
• 17:34
  important to the book. I haven't read the book, but I
• 17:37
  got curious. I wanted to see how the movie
• 17:39
  differed. See, yeah, I'm glad that you
• 17:41
  were on board 'cause I looked this up for myself, 'cause I
• 17:43
  don't really plan to read it, but I thought maybe you might
• 17:46
  plan to read it after the fact. You know I so.
• 17:50
  I I still probably will actually check it out 'cause it sounds
• 17:53
  interesting anyway. There's one more difference.
• 17:56
  I guess you didn't know this, but in the book, Winner doesn't
• 18:00
  kill himself. He's killed by one of the the
• 18:04
  group members that is fed up with it and doesn't want to
• 18:07
  continue anymore. So they kill them and they walk
• 18:09
  off and they just quit. Yeah, I read.
• 18:11
  I read that. Too.
• 18:12
  Yeah. So yeah, that's another thing
• 18:14
  that happens there. That's different.
• 18:15
  So, yeah, big differences not changing a whole lot of the
• 18:21
  quarter. It changes a lot about the
• 18:23
  ending, but you know. Yeah, and it changes like some
• 18:26
  of the IT changes how like the theme is wrapped up.
• 18:31
  It feels almost like I don't. It's just a very different take
• 18:37
  on the story to change all of that.
• 18:46
  To change the ending, yeah, yeah, it's very much a different
• 18:51
  a different way to do it. But I don't think it's bad
• 18:55
  either. I like the ending that we got.
• 18:57
  It just feels like when you take when you're changing such a big
• 19:03
  thing from it. I guess that's the difference
• 19:06
  between like, you know, like making it from the script or
• 19:09
  like adapting it very much faithfully, like, you know, take
• 19:13
  that and just you can make whatever change you want to
• 19:16
  make. It feels like you're making a
• 19:17
  different point with the story, like instead of, you know, in
• 19:24
  the book where it's very much like, well, we're not going to
• 19:28
  sacrifice just because this might be a thing that saves the
• 19:32
  world. And even if it is, what kind of
• 19:35
  the benevolent being is forcing this upon us right in the movie,
• 19:41
  where it's like, no, this is good.
• 19:43
  It brings peace to all of us. To do this is actually kind of
• 19:47
  really fucked up if you think about it.
• 19:49
  It's all really fucked. Up, yeah.
• 19:51
  But like, yeah, it's, I think it just comes down to like the
• 19:56
  individual people's philosophy of like what they find more
• 20:00
  compelling. Yeah.
• 20:01
  Like, you know, some people hate having that uncertainty in the
• 20:05
  ending there, and then some people like to have a complete
• 20:07
  finished story with an like elbow at the end.
• 20:11
  Then I guess that's like the difference between the two of
• 20:13
  them there. Like, I don't feel like I'm not,
• 20:15
  I'm not Shumlin's not the type of dude to like withhold an
• 20:17
  ending from you. Like that's his thing.
• 20:19
  He's like, and here's the ending.
• 20:21
  Like that's his favorite part. Yeah, yeah, that is kind of his
• 20:24
  thing. Yeah.
• 20:26
  So yeah. OK, OK, so because this is Pride
• 20:29
  Month and because we want to talk about issues that matter, I
• 20:35
  found some statistics that relate to this movie.
• 20:40
  As always, I will share the links to these in the show notes
• 20:43
  as well. These are bummer statistics, so
• 20:47
  buckle up friends. I I think it's important to talk
• 20:53
  about it because these are things that are featured in the
• 20:55
  movie. And one is violence perpetrated
• 20:57
  against LGBTQ people in the United States.
• 21:00
  Yeah, that's a very big part of this movie.
• 21:03
  LGBTQ people experience 9 times more hate crime victimizations
• 21:08
  than non LGBTQ people. So that means that an LGBT
• 21:13
  person is more likely to is 9 times more likely to experience
• 21:17
  a hate crime in their lifetime than a non LGBTQ person.
• 21:20
  Damn, that's a whole that's a big difference.
• 21:22
  Yeah, yeah, it was like 6.6 out of 1000 versus .6 out of 1000.
• 21:28
  Shit. Yeah.
• 21:30
  I mean, I, I, I believe it. Unfortunately it sucks, but
• 21:34
  yeah. And then I also found some
• 21:37
  information from finelaw.com that says 22 states allow
• 21:42
  adoption agencies to discriminate against LGBTQ
• 21:44
  couples during adoptions and provide no legal recourse for
• 21:48
  gay parents if they encounter such discrimination.
• 21:51
  Lambda Legal said that nearly six million Americans have an
• 21:54
  LGBTQ parent. Same sex couples are four times
• 21:58
  more likely to have adopted children or stepchildren, and
• 22:01
  more than one in five LGBTQ plus Americans live in a state that
• 22:05
  allows child welfare agencies to refuse to place children with
• 22:08
  them. Even less fun fact, my
• 22:13
  experience looking up some of these statistics was garbage
• 22:17
  anti LGBTQ websites that were trying to say the reasons why
• 22:20
  gay people shouldn't adopt. Those were harder to avoid than
• 22:25
  I would like to admit. I forgot how much of like a
• 22:28
  bummer these segments are this month.
• 22:30
  Yeah. We don't really talk about fun
• 22:32
  things. But I mean, that's why pride
• 22:34
  exists, you know, is because shit like this is going on in
• 22:38
  the world, Like because we have statistics like this to share,
• 22:42
  that's why we have pride. Oh, I, I'm not saying it's not
• 22:46
  important to share the information.
• 22:47
  It's just yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate.
• 22:49
  It's a fuck of a bummer. Yeah, it really is.
• 22:52
  But you know what? It's not a fuck of a bummer.
• 22:54
  Not this movie. To talk about the good, bad,
• 22:57
  ugly and absurd of a movie. OK, well that's fine.
• 23:00
  Well we're starting off with the good too, which is is always
• 23:02
  nice. So you kick it off this time
• 23:05
  since this was my pick. OK, so I will say good for me is
• 23:09
  that this movie showed me that I shouldn't judge a book by it's
• 23:13
  Shyamalan. I here's The thing is that the
• 23:18
  premise, like it's one of those that the trailer tells you what
• 23:25
  the movie is like. That is the thing, you know what
• 23:28
  I mean? What do you mean?
• 23:30
  That I. Mean, shouldn't that be what
• 23:32
  trailers are supposed to do? Is tell you what the movie is
• 23:34
  that way you wanna watch it. But it's telling you what the
• 23:38
  plot of the movie is, is that they have to decide to pick to
• 23:42
  avoid the end of the There's nothing much more beyond that.
• 23:44
  To be fair, there's nothing much more to the movie.
• 23:47
  Like we get 5 minutes into the movie saying.
• 23:50
  I'm just saying like, I mean, it's not the fault of the
• 23:52
  trailer, that's just the movie. I know, but that's what I'm
• 23:56
  trying. I'm let me make my point man.
• 23:58
  OK, you you sound like you were criticizing the trailer.
• 24:01
  I I was just wanting to make sure.
• 24:02
  OK. No, I was just saying, like, I
• 24:05
  see the trailer, I'm not very compelled by it because I'm
• 24:08
  like, oh man, it's M Night Shyamalan.
• 24:10
  He's going to force some dumb twist in there.
• 24:12
  And I just, I had no desire to see this.
• 24:16
  And I actually really liked seeing how the story played out,
• 24:19
  seeing the history behind Eric and Andrew's relationship and
• 24:23
  their adoption of when and the things that they've gone
• 24:25
  together individually and as a couple.
• 24:28
  Very real kind of experiences that unfortunately gay men, gay
• 24:32
  men do have to face. And I thought that it was a
• 24:35
  really touching story of their family and how much they love
• 24:38
  each other. When is just a little delight.
• 24:41
  And Bautista, for all of his Evan Kemper realness when he
• 24:44
  appears on screen, is just like, I want him as a second grade
• 24:48
  teacher, you know what I mean? Like.
• 24:50
  He's a huge person to be a like a grade teacher.
• 24:54
  Like I feel like he's spending more time in the gym than he is
• 24:56
  like with the kids. But yeah, he, he was awesome.
• 24:59
  I I loved him in this. Yeah, so I, I all of the
• 25:03
  performance were incredibly heartfelt.
• 25:08
  And I actually like, this was a much more touching story than I
• 25:11
  really expected it to be. I thought it was just gonna be
• 25:14
  like, blam, blam, here's the end of the world.
• 25:17
  And it was more than that. And I very much enjoyed seeing,
• 25:22
  like, seeing all of the interactions and the
• 25:25
  performances from these, from this cast.
• 25:28
  Mm hmm. Also, it was really weird
• 25:30
  hearing Rupert Grant put on a Boston accent.
• 25:34
  Yeah, he's terrible at it. Yeah.
• 25:36
  I heard his English accent peek through a couple of times.
• 25:39
  Listen, he tried real hard. Did he?
• 25:43
  I think he did. He's like, I'm Ron Weasley.
• 25:46
  I got, you know, whatever. I'll walk into this movie.
• 25:48
  I'll do my own shit. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Like, he's like, my name is Redmond.
• 25:53
  OK, wardrobe department. Give me some red.
• 25:55
  You're like, don't you think that's a little bit too on the
• 25:56
  nose, Rupert? He's like he's.
• 25:58
  Like my hair? I agree with you, I thought
• 26:01
  Batista was amazing in this movie.
• 26:02
  He's probably the person that stole the show for me.
• 26:05
  I know a lot of people have been giving him a lot of credit for
• 26:08
  his acting traps here lately, but I feel like he is far
• 26:13
  excite. He's far exceeding all the
• 26:15
  expectations people have for WWE wrestler turned actor because
• 26:20
  you know, you got The Rock and you got John Cena, who are all
• 26:22
  like good in their own things. John Cena is like a, he's like
• 26:25
  in the middle. I think rocks at the bottom
• 26:27
  because he only plays one type and he's really soft about what
• 26:30
  he does. And then you get Batista, who
• 26:32
  isn't afraid to be like, make fun of himself or be like this
• 26:36
  giant like gentle dude. Like he actually puts forth the
• 26:39
  effort to be a good actor. And by all accounts, I've read
• 26:42
  that he's just a wonderful human being.
• 26:44
  I was reading him or and not Shyamalan talk about him in this
• 26:49
  movie and like he said that he was taken back by he how he
• 26:54
  wanted to just start fresh and he wanted to just like warn
• 26:58
  things like like learning how to do it.
• 27:00
  He didn't think that he was capable of acting in this role
• 27:04
  because it was so big for him, But he was like M Night Shama
• 27:09
  was like, look, man, like I believe you can do this.
• 27:12
  I know you can do this, like we're going to do this together
• 27:14
  and then like it, you know, speaks for itself.
• 27:18
  He saw him. He picked him because he watched
• 27:20
  the new Blade Runner movie and thought he killed in that, which
• 27:22
  I've not seen that. So I can't really talk about
• 27:24
  that. It does a really good job of
• 27:26
  making you care about all three of the people there.
• 27:29
  Like you said, the flashbacks were a great way to humanize the
• 27:32
  characters because you know, you don't really get who they are or
• 27:36
  what they are. You just know that they're like
• 27:38
  a couple and they have their kid there with them in the cabin.
• 27:41
  And it really makes you sympathetic towards them because
• 27:46
  when you see all the shit that they've had to endure, like you
• 27:49
  feel really bad. And it, it did a really good job
• 27:54
  of showing two different types of people, like the person that
• 28:01
  experiences shit in the world. And it creates this hate that
• 28:05
  like they can't trust the world anymore.
• 28:08
  And because of that, they are all like, they just don't care
• 28:12
  for it. The world can go fuck itself.
• 28:14
  Everybody can die. It doesn't matter.
• 28:15
  And then you have this other person who is he's, he's like
• 28:21
  more of like a caring type person and he doesn't like let
• 28:23
  that stuff shape how he sees other people because he still
• 28:27
  tries to see the good. I'm sorry, I'm finishing my
• 28:29
  thing. Go ahead.
• 28:30
  No, that's fine. I just wanted to when you're
• 28:34
  done. That's why I had my hand up.
• 28:36
  I, I think it's a little bit more complex with Eric than that
• 28:39
  even. Or Andrew.
• 28:41
  Which one's the angry one? Andrew?
• 28:42
  Andrew, I, I think he's angry and I think he's got a lot of
• 28:46
  reason to be angry. So does Eric.
• 28:48
  They both have reason to be angry.
• 28:50
  And like you said, they have two different reactions to it, where
• 28:53
  Andrew really leans into that, whereas Eric, you know, opts for
• 28:57
  a softer spot. But what I find fascinating
• 29:00
  about Andrew's character, Eric's character.
• 29:03
  Fuck, I can't. Andrew's the angry one.
• 29:05
  Andrew's the angry one. OK, thank you.
• 29:08
  Eric just feels like an angry name to me.
• 29:11
  Andrew angry. OK, Andrew's, he's a human
• 29:16
  rights attorney, you know what I mean?
• 29:18
  Like he's still doing work for people, he hasn't completely
• 29:22
  written off all of humanity and said fuck everyone.
• 29:25
  He literally. Says that in this.
• 29:26
  Movie is much more cynical. Yeah, You know, he literally
• 29:30
  says like, they're all terrible. Fuck them.
• 29:32
  It doesn't like they don't deserve this.
• 29:34
  Like he literally says that in the movie at least, like, which,
• 29:38
  you know, like, I get it. Like, yeah, he's, he's had to go
• 29:41
  through a lot of shit. And when you do that, it's hard
• 29:43
  to maintain faith in humanity at that point because humanity's
• 29:46
  been so cruel to you. It's hard to like, I get it.
• 29:50
  Cruel to him and cruel to the people that he represents.
• 29:53
  But I think like, there's a difference between like how you
• 29:56
  bluff and how you bark versus like how you actually, like,
• 30:01
  what kind of walk you're actually walking, you know?
• 30:04
  And as angry as he is and as ready as he is at a moment's
• 30:08
  notice to have to fight for himself and his family, I do
• 30:12
  think because he, he is still dedicating himself to like
• 30:17
  mentally and emotionally draining work for the benefit of
• 30:21
  other people. I I just think he's a little bit
• 30:23
  more complex, that's all. OK, I'm just observing what, you
• 30:28
  know, what I saw. Like, you know, I'm just trying
• 30:30
  to take it for like what I saw. And you know, I'm not saying
• 30:34
  that he's not a complex character and that he's like
• 30:36
  straight up like hates everybody except for Eric and when, but
• 30:41
  you know, like it's just overall, generally speaking has
• 30:46
  created this resentment for the world.
• 30:49
  I think that that's a fair statement that he's that he has
• 30:52
  and it's not it. It's not like it doesn't make
• 30:59
  sense. Like it makes sense for him.
• 31:01
  OK, I'm just trying to say it's nice seeing the like the
• 31:04
  comparison between the two. You get like two different
• 31:06
  people. Like he is very much like a fuck
• 31:08
  it. Who cares?
• 31:09
  Who cares what who cares about them?
• 31:10
  The other one's like, look, man, this is a really important
• 31:13
  decision. We need to actually think about
• 31:15
  this and not just like, like we got to take the things that are
• 31:19
  in front of us and form our own opinion, like, you know, not be
• 31:24
  not be blinded by our past experiences.
• 31:27
  And the other thing is, I thought that they did a really
• 31:30
  good job of giving reasons to like actually believe them and
• 31:34
  also doubt them at the same time.
• 31:37
  I disagree, I don't think they gave them any good reasons to.
• 31:40
  Boy, this is just falling apart. I I wouldn't have been convinced
• 31:45
  by any of them. Well, OK, like I will.
• 31:49
  I read other discussions and other people felt the same way.
• 31:51
  I, I thought like they like, like if you actually see the
• 31:54
  things that are going on and you pay attention, like, I guess I'm
• 31:57
  an Eric like, like I, I, I don't try like, I like how he actually
• 32:03
  tried to like understand from their perspective why they are
• 32:06
  doing this. Rather try and understand
• 32:09
  something from somebody's perspective without.
• 32:11
  OK, let's go on to bed. I don't really have like a ton
• 32:14
  of bad about this, honestly. I I guess mostly just like how
• 32:21
  the theme changed between the book and the movie.
• 32:24
  OK, that that difference in the story.
• 32:26
  I think honestly in some ways that this is a darker ending and
• 32:32
  I think it leaves just as much up in the air and as a question
• 32:38
  personally. But OK, I guess that's partly
• 32:42
  because I I wasn't convinced by the the horsemen, so to speak.
• 32:48
  You didn't think it was real? No, Even after the end of the
• 32:50
  movie. No, I think.
• 32:52
  You thought all that shit just happened, that like, happened.
• 32:55
  Yeah, they're coincidences all the time.
• 32:58
  I. How?
• 32:59
  But how does that happen? Like immediately after they say
• 33:04
  that they're unleashing the horsemen and like all of a
• 33:06
  sudden, like actual planes are falling from the sky.
• 33:09
  I. I think coincidences happened.
• 33:12
  I don't think that it was some big.
• 33:15
  I really do think that we're just like Eric.
• 33:17
  And Andrew here. Apparently because like I, I
• 33:19
  bought into it, like by the end of it, I would just think that.
• 33:22
  And I, I mean, I, I believe he very much says so like that.
• 33:26
  That's like, it was all true. Like the twist is that there's
• 33:31
  no twist. It's like legitimately the end
• 33:33
  of the world. They are there to represent the
• 33:36
  four Horsemen of the apocalypse. I was reading it.
• 33:41
  Leonard is the one that represents leadership.
• 33:48
  Rupert's Redmond is supposed to be anger.
• 33:52
  Mallet Redmond is mallet, Adrian is nurturing, Sabrina is
• 33:56
  healing, and Leonard is guidance.
• 33:58
  They they literally say it in the movie.
• 33:59
  Well, I know, but like, I'm just trying to, I'm not saying that I
• 34:03
  read that like I've got secret information, but I'm just trying
• 34:06
  to say like, I believe it, OK. And I I don't know, all right.
• 34:12
  My, my bads are. I thought that Rupert did a bad
• 34:16
  job with his accent, like I said, and I thought that for
• 34:19
  this to be an R rated movie, they did a lot of off screen
• 34:23
  deaths. Maybe we don't really get to see
• 34:25
  any of the deaths play out, which it's kind of, you know,
• 34:28
  like, doesn't have to be like that.
• 34:30
  But like, man, that when I saw like those beat downs that they
• 34:33
  were giving them, they were pretty gruesome.
• 34:35
  So it would have been kind of cool to see some of that stuff
• 34:37
  when I'm watching a horror movie.
• 34:39
  Yeah. All right.
• 34:41
  Ugly. You know, the whole like
• 34:47
  homophobia of it all. Yeah.
• 34:51
  I mean, I feel like it's very, it's very upfront with it.
• 34:55
  Like, I mean, that's like a big one.
• 34:57
  I also think it's like a horrible thing.
• 34:59
  They have to like, choose to like who from your family or
• 35:05
  like whatever you care most about.
• 35:08
  Like choose and make that sacrifice for the whole world.
• 35:11
  Like, it's such a like a such a fucked up thing.
• 35:14
  Yeah. All right.
• 35:16
  I'm absurd. Show us what you're packing,
• 35:19
  Daddy Andrew. You can't.
• 35:21
  Put in a line like that. Come on.
• 35:24
  I yeah, I like that. That was really funny.
• 35:29
  Yeah. That I, I, I wonder if that was
• 35:33
  like a like a happy coincidence or if they actually wrote that
• 35:37
  line out to mean it like that. You can't.
• 35:42
  You can't write that line and not know what the double
• 35:46
  entendre is. You can't.
• 35:48
  Some people are oblivious I guess.
• 35:49
  I don't know, like it could happen.
• 35:51
  I feel like they would have leaned into it in the movie
• 35:53
  maybe. The fact that it comes from
• 35:56
  Redmond on top of that. That's true.
• 36:01
  Yeah. Oh, yeah, he does say that.
• 36:02
  Yeah. I feel like that makes makes a
• 36:04
  little bit more sense with it being from him.
• 36:08
  All right. My absurds whenever they're in
• 36:11
  the adoption place to pick up when in the flashback, there's a
• 36:15
  mural of Jesus playing soccer with kids, which I thought was
• 36:18
  pretty funny. And also Andrew doing the pocket
• 36:22
  sand at one point. Like he straight up Dell
• 36:25
  gribbles that. Is how I wrote it in my notes.
• 36:28
  Yeah, it is what it is. He pocket sands here.
• 36:32
  All right, so let's rate it. OK, I think I'm going to give it
• 36:39
  an 8. OK, I really liked it.
• 36:43
  I had a lot more fun with this than I was really expecting to.
• 36:47
  I'd give it. I'd probably give it an 8 also.
• 36:50
  OK. Yeah, starting average of eight.
• 36:52
  OK. We ready.
• 36:54
  Let's do it. So we start off with the opening
• 36:59
  credits are over, some doodles on top of medical papers and a
• 37:03
  newspaper and some schoolwork. And what I'm assuming is like,
• 37:13
  just like random like things like bills and stuff, which end
• 37:19
  up being the Four Horsemans, you know, representation of their
• 37:24
  jobs and whatnot and the visions they're seeing or.
• 37:26
  Is that what that is? Yeah, I missed that.
• 37:28
  Yeah, well, I wrote it down because I was like, this feels
• 37:31
  like it's important that these scribbles are happening on these
• 37:33
  things. And after seeing who after they
• 37:37
  like introduce themselves, I was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense
• 37:40
  then. Yeah, I didn't catch.
• 37:42
  I just, I wasn't really expecting it to be like a Four
• 37:44
  Horsemen type deal with them. OK, what?
• 37:48
  I didn't. Excite was this little girl to
• 37:50
  ask the grasshoppers for informed consent to be a part of
• 37:54
  her study, that was. Nice.
• 37:57
  Yeah, I liked her talking to the Grasshopper and she named it
• 38:00
  Caroline, like her friend from school.
• 38:01
  But she said don't fart like Caroline because nobody likes
• 38:04
  that. And then Bautista comes up and
• 38:09
  he looks like somebody who is ready to murder a small child
• 38:14
  and bury her in the woods. Well, it's hard to not look like
• 38:18
  that when you're him. Yeah, when you're 6 1/2 feet
• 38:21
  tall and 300 lbs of muscle. But he's And then you are styled
• 38:25
  to wear Evan Kemper glasses. Yeah, he's like a legit kind
• 38:31
  though, like, you know, like he, he's a nice guy.
• 38:33
  He, like, walks up to her and asks her.
• 38:36
  Well, he introduces himself. He does the whole thing with
• 38:38
  kids, like, oh, all right, let's not be strangers.
• 38:40
  My name is Leonard. And then he helps her catch a
• 38:43
  bug. Apparently she likes to just
• 38:44
  really catch grasshoppers. Yeah, And you can tell that he's
• 38:48
  worked with kids because he knows, like, a good way to talk
• 38:50
  to her. And he gets her talking.
• 38:52
  And, you know, she mentions like, she says something about
• 38:56
  Daddy Eric. And he goes, oh, you call your
• 38:58
  dad by his first name? And she was like, well, I have
• 39:00
  two dads. So that's how, you know, we tell
• 39:03
  all the party we've got Daddy Eric and Daddy Andrew.
• 39:06
  And he was like, Oh well, how do you feel about that?
• 39:09
  She goes, I don't know, some kids have one dad, I have two.
• 39:11
  The only thing I really don't like is this busted ass guidance
• 39:15
  counselor at school who says it's really, really great in a
• 39:17
  way that makes me think that she doesn't actually think it's
• 39:19
  really great. Kids can clock that shit y'all.
• 39:22
  Yeah, I also, I was thinking about that.
• 39:24
  I wonder if like it was people like being like too enthusiastic
• 39:29
  about it because like, I feel like if you don't treat it like
• 39:31
  it's a normal thing, then it feels like it's not a normal
• 39:34
  thing. But like, you know, like if it's
• 39:37
  like a, if that's the situation, just react normally.
• 39:39
  Yeah, yeah, she's going to be 8 in two days and she wants to be
• 39:44
  a vet when she grows up, so that's why she's studying the
• 39:46
  grasshoppers, which I think is just adorable.
• 39:50
  He offers her a flower, but she doesn't want to take it.
• 39:53
  So he's like, well, let's play a game, we'll pull a pedal off and
• 39:56
  we'll each answer a question. So she asks why he's there.
• 40:02
  And I mean, they have a couple of like more basic questions.
• 40:06
  He kind of kills the vibe by asking about her scar.
• 40:12
  Yeah. 'Cause she was born with a cleft
• 40:14
  flip. He at least recognizes and
• 40:17
  apologizes like that was too personal even for this game
• 40:21
  'cause they're playing a game where he handed her the flower.
• 40:23
  So they pick a pedal, and every time they pick a pedal they have
• 40:26
  to tell I ask a question about the person.
• 40:28
  Yeah, and that was, that was way too intense for a second
• 40:31
  question. So she's like, well, why are you
• 40:34
  here? And he goes, well, you can't
• 40:37
  see, but I have injuries on the inside because I'm heartbroken
• 40:42
  because of what I have to do. And then she sees like these
• 40:46
  other strangers locking up and she's like, oh, shit.
• 40:49
  So she runs to the house and she's like trying to get her
• 40:52
  dads to come inside. They're on the back porch and
• 40:55
  they are not taking this seriously at all.
• 40:58
  I like how she's like, there's people at the door and they want
• 41:00
  to talk to you and they're OK trying to like.
• 41:02
  Jehovah's Witnesses. So Eric speaks with Leonard.
• 41:07
  He goes to the door. Sabrina and Adrian in Redmond
• 41:12
  are also standing there, all menacingly.
• 41:15
  Andrew tries to call the police because he starts to get a
• 41:18
  sketched out vibe from them, but the phone's no longer working
• 41:20
  and Leonard straight up admits he's like yeah, sorry we had to
• 41:23
  cut your line. I think it was Adrian that said
• 41:25
  we cut the phone and we know that there's no cell signal out
• 41:29
  here because we don't have signal either.
• 41:31
  This is where Rupert, or not Rupert, I'm sorry, Redmond says.
• 41:35
  Show us what you're packing, Daddy Andrew.
• 41:38
  And that's when the four begin to break in to the house.
• 41:42
  Yeah, so like on the inside, we've got the family is like
• 41:45
  trying to barricade themselves, like they're trying to block the
• 41:49
  windows, block the doors, lock everything up, but meanwhile
• 41:54
  everything's being busted in 'cause this is a very beautiful
• 41:57
  but impractical against Home Invasion's cabin.
• 42:01
  Yeah, they also, I guess worth mentioning, they very clearly
• 42:05
  are carrying weapons, so they noticed those from the.
• 42:08
  Window made weapons. Yeah, like weapons aren't the
• 42:11
  clown I'd be jealous of. Yeah, and that's why he wanted
• 42:16
  to know what he's packing, because he, Andrew Yelsey, has a
• 42:19
  gun. But he says Eric's like, really
• 42:22
  you do. He's like, not here, but it's in
• 42:23
  the trunk of the car, so we know where that is.
• 42:25
  Chekhov's Gun. Yep.
• 42:27
  Yeah, actually a gun. The family realizes that they're
• 42:32
  kind of losing this game, so they're just gonna make a run
• 42:35
  for it. And when they are running,
• 42:39
  Sabrina gets in and Eric fights her so that way when And Andrew
• 42:45
  can run but they end up staying because Eric gets knocked out
• 42:51
  really bad and Andrew comes in and he starts fucking Redmond.
• 42:55
  Shoot up, fucking him up. You know that I'm saying Redman
• 43:03
  and that's not his real name. Is that a name that the
• 43:05
  character came up with for himself?
• 43:07
  Like, I have red hair. I am the Redman.
• 43:11
  I represent anger. I am also the Redman in that
• 43:14
  way. Do you think he knew which one
• 43:16
  he was which horseman? I mean, he was the only like,
• 43:19
  not cool one. Yeah.
• 43:22
  Do you? Think that that means that he
• 43:24
  knows. He seemed to understand he's an
• 43:27
  asshole. Oh, yeah, he does.
• 43:29
  But it makes sense. He's a malice.
• 43:30
  He's supposed to be an asshole. Yeah.
• 43:32
  So we get a flashback to Andrew's parents meeting Eric
• 43:36
  for the first time, and it is super uncomfortable.
• 43:40
  They drove 8 hours to come over to the house.
• 43:44
  They stay for half an hour and they leave.
• 43:47
  Andrew is really upset about the whole situation, but Eric is
• 43:50
  trying to calm him down and let him know that it's OK, They
• 43:54
  still have each other. Yeah.
• 43:56
  Which is, unfortunately, too real of a reality for far too
• 44:00
  many gay children. Gay children.
• 44:03
  Oh, right. No, I thought you were talking
• 44:05
  about like when here I was like. No, no, no.
• 44:07
  I'm talking about like, you know, people whatever age.
• 44:11
  Yeah, coming. Out to their Oh yeah, yeah,
• 44:13
  sure, yeah. Or even if they've come out,
• 44:15
  sometimes their parents don't really react until they see them
• 44:20
  with their same sex partner. Yeah, so Eric comes to and
• 44:25
  Sabrina is tending to his wounds.
• 44:28
  They're. Outside the chairs right now.
• 44:29
  They're tied to chairs. Wen isn't, but presumably she's
• 44:34
  being coerced into submission. Weirdly, these home invaders are
• 44:39
  cleaning up the house, which is a bizarre sight to begin with.
• 44:44
  And Leonard has a Strawberry Shortcake on the TV.
• 44:47
  And he says he really likes the show 'cause it teaches kids
• 44:49
  about sharing and not being prejudice.
• 44:53
  Which she speaks to talk of an actual teacher.
• 44:55
  I thought that that was pretty cool.
• 44:57
  Yeah, so they're like, this is not driven by homophobia.
• 45:03
  We swear we did not know you were gay when we got here.
• 45:06
  Well, they don't straight up like, admit that like, they're
• 45:09
  like, Andrew calls him homophobic.
• 45:11
  Yeah, because he's like claiming that there it's a targeted
• 45:14
  attack. Yeah.
• 45:17
  So they decide that they're going to introduce themselves to
• 45:20
  the group to try and explain why they're there.
• 45:23
  So Sabrina says that she used her savings to get there from
• 45:26
  California. She's a nurse, so she came from
• 45:29
  California to Pennsylvania because she just feels like she
• 45:34
  really strongly believes this. Leonard's from Chicago.
• 45:37
  He's a second grade teacher and also a bartender and he also
• 45:41
  does the after school program. Redmond kind of starts to mock
• 45:46
  the whole thing. Yeah.
• 45:49
  He he does like that I like long walks on the beach and you know,
• 45:52
  whatever. And then he gets like he starts
• 45:55
  just telling him how stupid it is that they have to introduce
• 45:58
  like themselves because they know what they have to do.
• 46:01
  You're super fucked up anyways. And then Adrian, who has like
• 46:05
  all of this. He does say that he's from
• 46:08
  Massachusetts. He works for the gas company.
• 46:10
  He used to be beat by his father's.
• 46:12
  That little ass kicking that he got from Andrew wasn't super
• 46:16
  fun. But also he is a convicted felon
• 46:19
  and. Yeah, yeah, right.
• 46:21
  I forgot about that. He's got a sketchy pass.
• 46:23
  Yeah, Adrian's from DC. She's a line cook.
• 46:27
  She has two cats named Roof and RAF, but I like that as names
• 46:32
  for cats. Yeah, that's a good fitting.
• 46:35
  So they are there to prevent the apocalypse.
• 46:37
  The family must willingly choose to sacrifice one, and they must
• 46:43
  also be the ones to do the killing or the world will end.
• 46:48
  But those three, the three family members will live and
• 46:52
  they will have to just kind of wander the remains of the earth
• 46:56
  till the end of time. So the four invaders, they had
• 47:01
  these visions that led them together and to the cabin.
• 47:04
  They couldn't explain it, but they just felt compelled to
• 47:07
  move. They were given these very
• 47:08
  specific visions of what would happen.
• 47:10
  They were told how to build the weapons they had, how to get
• 47:13
  where later on, I think at one point, Sabrina says that they
• 47:17
  were even wearing the same colors that they had seen each
• 47:20
  other wearing in their visions. Then we get like this whole long
• 47:22
  doomsday speech, which Eric says, you know, everything in it
• 47:27
  sounds really random and vague. And, you know, it's kind of like
• 47:30
  with a horoscope where like you say these random vague things
• 47:33
  that are like just specific enough that you're like, oh,
• 47:36
  that could be me. But like vague enough that they
• 47:39
  could apply to everyone. It's basically the gist of this
• 47:42
  speech. And then he was like, so we're
• 47:45
  gonna ask you, are you willing to sacrifice a member of your
• 47:49
  family for every No one plague is gonna be unleashed on
• 47:52
  humanity. And Andrew's like, no.
• 47:57
  See, yeah, this is one of the things that I really like about
• 47:59
  this movie, though, is like, it puts you in this perspective.
• 48:03
  Like, you kind of have to sit there with them and be like,
• 48:05
  what would I think or say if I were in the situation where four
• 48:10
  people broke into my house and were forcing me to kill
• 48:15
  somebody, like one of my family members in order for this to
• 48:18
  actually happen? I would 100% think that they
• 48:22
  were having a religiously motivated psychotic break.
• 48:25
  Yeah, from the get go right here, I would be like, I'm, I'm
• 48:28
  on Andrew's side at this point because, well, I mean, I guess
• 48:30
  Erica's too. I mean, it sounds ridiculous.
• 48:33
  So like, you think that this is just somebody like straight up
• 48:35
  trying to stage a murder? Yeah.
• 48:38
  So the first now results in Redmond putting this, like, hood
• 48:42
  over his face. And he says that he's really
• 48:44
  scared. And then we see the other three
• 48:47
  like do this little formation thing and then we cut off to the
• 48:52
  side as they, like, jab their weapons into his head.
• 48:55
  I think we at least see it hit his head like somebody takes.
• 48:58
  I think it's a winner. He takes his axe and like
• 49:00
  actually hits him right in the head with it.
• 49:02
  Oh, and beforehand, he says, a part of humanity has been
• 49:06
  judged. Yeah, that's that's their like
• 49:09
  final line. Yeah, by by killing these
• 49:11
  people, they are unleashing one of the fuck?
• 49:16
  What are they called? Plagues.
• 49:18
  Yeah, they're unleashing one of the plagues.
• 49:20
  So they kill Redmond and then he's watching the clock on his
• 49:27
  watch, and then he's like, all right, turn on the TV.
• 49:29
  But first we have a flashback to Eric and Andrew adopting when
• 49:34
  and lying to the adoption agency because they weren't going to
• 49:38
  let two men adopt A baby together.
• 49:40
  They're like, oh, my wife can't be here.
• 49:43
  This is her brother. Wink, wink, nod, nod.
• 49:45
  Oldest story in the history books?
• 49:47
  You know Saffo and her friend. Yep, and they pick a little win
• 49:52
  out. Yeah, say little baby.
• 49:58
  OK, so then this is where they turned on the TV.
• 50:00
  They're they're taking the body out, they're cleaning up the
• 50:02
  blood. And then they put on a TV report
• 50:04
  of an earthquake that happened 4 hours ago and another earthquake
• 50:08
  in a Cascadian subduction zone. It was an 8.6 on the Richter
• 50:14
  scale, which is fucking crazy if you don't remember that piece of
• 50:21
  social studies. I do not, but I saw on the TV
• 50:26
  that they had there that it's causing a bunch of tsunamis.
• 50:29
  So like it's straight up like they're saying no matter how
• 50:32
  high you go in the mountains, you're going to be fucked.
• 50:34
  You're just going to die from the waves here because it's just
• 50:36
  going to go too high. Yeah, because it's also less
• 50:38
  than 70 miles from the coast. So these tsunamis are just like,
• 50:41
  absolutely destructive. And apparently it's like,
• 50:45
  actually one of the areas that they've been predicting like an
• 50:49
  earthquake is going to cause some great damage is like the
• 50:53
  volcano and Yellowstone. Like that's going to go off one
• 50:57
  day and it's going to just fucking be terrible.
• 50:59
  But see, and then this is another reason why I'm on
• 51:01
  Andrew's side because this happened hours ago.
• 51:04
  Like you can't say that it's connected to this quote UN quote
• 51:07
  sacrifice that just happened. And also, it's in an area that
• 51:11
  has been predicted by scientists and geologists to be like.
• 51:16
  That's what I'm saying when I'm saying they give you great
• 51:18
  reasons to believe both sides. Because when you see this here
• 51:22
  and you also saw him timing it on the watch, you're like, well,
• 51:25
  he knew about it. Like there's like that's this is
• 51:27
  definitely a planned thing. But then like, as things
• 51:30
  progress, like, it's getting a little bit more difficult to
• 51:34
  explain how some of this shit's happening.
• 51:36
  So their next choice is going to be tomorrow and they can, you
• 51:40
  know, sit as a family tonight and talk.
• 51:43
  That sucks that you have to wait a whole day to make the choice.
• 51:46
  Yeah, I do like this little flashback to the family and the
• 51:49
  cars singing Boogie Shoes. I like that too.
• 51:53
  That was sweet. And that's, that's just like the
• 51:55
  things like slice of life moments that those are like core
• 51:58
  memories that you form with your family, like a little show like
• 52:01
  that. And it's them arriving at the
• 52:03
  cabinet that we see them at now. Yeah.
• 52:05
  And you see, Andrew's a little bit more spontaneous, and Eric's
• 52:09
  a little bit more like, let's be careful and think through, you
• 52:13
  know? Let's.
• 52:14
  Jump in. We're safe.
• 52:16
  Yeah. Yeah, only at the river, the
• 52:18
  lake, because, you know, they have a nice ass lake in their
• 52:20
  backyard. Eric was smart there, though,
• 52:22
  because he was like, I got a phone in my pocket.
• 52:24
  Don't need to just be jumping in the water.
• 52:26
  Yeah, so I've. I've been there, man.
• 52:28
  It sucks. So Eric is really struggling
• 52:31
  with his head wound. He has been concussed badly.
• 52:35
  Oh yeah, and I guess also before then he saw like a glare before
• 52:41
  they killed Redmond in one of the pictures and he saw like the
• 52:45
  silhouette of a person. Yeah, but Sabrina had also said
• 52:48
  that, you know, sensitivity to light is a thing that's common
• 52:51
  with concussion. Right.
• 52:53
  But you can tell that it's kind of like he, he doesn't feel like
• 52:57
  he's conflicted. He feels like that must be it
• 52:59
  because that's the logical explanation.
• 53:00
  But then that he saw something like he's pretty sure that there
• 53:03
  was something there. So Sabrina has taken into the
• 53:07
  bathroom to try and clean them up a little bit more.
• 53:09
  She says that she's not religious, but she got these
• 53:11
  visions and, you know, she built her weapon based on the visions.
• 53:15
  They were all wearing the colors that they saw in the visions.
• 53:17
  And she's like, I just don't know what else to do besides,
• 53:21
  you know, what I'm feeling compelled to do.
• 53:25
  When he gets back out there, Andrew talks to him and he's
• 53:29
  like trying to. I think he can see that Eric's a
• 53:34
  little bit on the fence and Andrew pounces and Eric's like,
• 53:37
  no, I don't believe them, it's OK.
• 53:38
  Like calm down. And when takes the opportunity
• 53:43
  where everybody's backs are turning to sneak out.
• 53:45
  But Leonard catches her cuz he works with second graders.
• 53:48
  Yeah. He knows.
• 53:49
  On that shoe. Yeah.
• 53:50
  And he brings her back. All right, so they got them all
• 53:54
  back in there. Andrew is insisting that they're
• 53:56
  being targeted and this is where he starts to recognize where he
• 54:01
  thought that he knew Redmond from, and he swears that he's
• 54:06
  the guy that attacked him at the bar that night.
• 54:09
  Yeah, he was attacked like 15 years ago or something at a bar
• 54:14
  in Boston, but the guy's name is O'bannon, and he's like, but no.
• 54:18
  But if he gained weight and grew out of beard, that would be him,
• 54:22
  Adrian. That fucking wait, what's he
• 54:27
  saying? He was fatter in the flashback.
• 54:29
  No, I think he's gained weight now.
• 54:31
  Yeah, that's one. OK, that that's rude to Rupert.
• 54:34
  They straight up like, hey, he's like, it's not as thin as he was
• 54:37
  back when he was playing and. Well, I didn't say he got fat,
• 54:40
  they just said he gained weight. Come on.
• 54:43
  Still, do you want people to say that about like you?
• 54:45
  You know that's not a nice thing to hear.
• 54:49
  They're saying something and Adrian mentions that this cabin
• 54:51
  had been discussed on a message board, which just adds fuel to
• 54:55
  Andrew's fire. Like you know this, they knew
• 54:58
  that this cabin was here. They, they, it's a Ding of
• 55:01
  credibility right there to them, right there.
• 55:02
  Yeah. And this is where he mentioned
• 55:03
  that he's a human rights attorney.
• 55:05
  And he's like, you wouldn't believe some of the things that
• 55:06
  people are capable of. So now I don't necessarily
• 55:09
  believe that all of humanity's worth saving.
• 55:11
  Adrian makes Wen a breakfast burrito and says that that's
• 55:16
  true test of any chef is being able to cook eggs, which that's
• 55:20
  funny because it actually came up on my crossword puzzles this
• 55:23
  weekend. It was like a good test for any
• 55:25
  chef and it was something about like it was an omelet.
• 55:28
  Yeah, OK. Yeah, eggs seem like they're
• 55:31
  super easy to do. Not so much if you want.
• 55:34
  To do easy, yeah. If you want to do good eggs.
• 55:36
  I mean I've seen many an episode of Below Deck where the chef has
• 55:40
  been taken down by egg orders. What is over easy?
• 55:44
  Who knows, Is it a social construct?
• 55:46
  Maybe. So have have you talked about
• 55:50
  Andrew starting to loosen his knot?
• 55:53
  No, but that is a good point to bring up.
• 55:55
  He's got like the little nylon rope around his wrist and he's
• 55:59
  starting to loosen it up some. And when he sneaks, Oh, sorry.
• 56:05
  Yeah, I was just gonna say he's, like, distracting them while
• 56:07
  he's loosening it by saying that their message board is an echo
• 56:09
  chamber. Yeah, Yeah.
• 56:11
  And it's a shared delusion. And while he's doing that,
• 56:15
  distracting them from him loosening his knots, but also
• 56:17
  distracting them from Wen, who has taken her knife from her
• 56:20
  breakfast burrito and is giving it to Daddy Eric, who says
• 56:24
  remember what you did at Thanksgiving.
• 56:26
  If I nod, do that again. I love that.
• 56:28
  Yeah, that was fun. That's going to pay off in a
• 56:31
  little bit. And I love the payoff for that
• 56:34
  is amazing. And I'll talk about why it's
• 56:36
  amazing. Adrian is up next, and she's
• 56:41
  really nervous. And this is where she reveals
• 56:43
  that she has a son. She didn't want to bring him up
• 56:46
  because she didn't want, I guess, to bump people out or
• 56:49
  make them think that she was trying too hard.
• 56:52
  But yeah, she. Here's the thing, she says she's
• 56:58
  hide visions where he burns alive and that's fucking
• 57:00
  traumatic. But she also says that she was
• 57:03
  holding him in those visions and hearing his screams and feeling
• 57:07
  him dying in her arms. Which, if your visions have led
• 57:11
  you here to this point, you're either going to walk away and
• 57:15
  the apocalypse is prevented, or you're going to die as a play is
• 57:19
  leashed on humanity. Oh, it sounds like.
• 57:22
  Instantaneous. From the looks of it, it was
• 57:27
  lightning strikes like whenever it started.
• 57:29
  But I'm just saying she wouldn't have been there when her son
• 57:33
  died so either way. I wonder where does this take
• 57:36
  place at in the movie? Did it say?
• 57:39
  Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania, yeah.
• 57:41
  She's from DC. So yeah, that's a big drive.
• 57:43
  Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
• 57:44
  Like if, you know, the mission is successful, they sacrifice
• 57:48
  somebody. Boom, no apocalypse.
• 57:50
  Her son doesn't die if they don't choose to sacrifice
• 57:53
  somebody. She's getting sacrificed to ruin
• 57:55
  the leash a plague so her vision is null and fur regardless.
• 58:01
  You're right. I didn't even think about that.
• 58:02
  Yeah, that is weird. So yeah, she can't convince them
• 58:06
  again. They declined to make a choice,
• 58:08
  so it's her turn. They kill her.
• 58:11
  Yeah, which is a shame because she does actually seem like, you
• 58:14
  know, psychosis or whatever you choose to visions, whatever
• 58:19
  aside she seems. She seemed, yeah, she seemed
• 58:23
  nice. She had, like, really weird
• 58:24
  nervous energy to her. So they turned the TV back on
• 58:27
  again. Show the next plague.
• 58:29
  And this is the X9 virus. So it's dangerous to children
• 58:34
  under 10 or 10 and under. And it's already spread all over
• 58:37
  the world, cases in many countries, including the United
• 58:40
  States. Only thing is, though, Andrew
• 58:43
  reminds Eric is like, this has been going on for like, a little
• 58:47
  bit now. Like, I've been tracking this
• 58:48
  virus for months already. So it's not like this is brand
• 58:52
  new. Yeah, this would have been like,
• 58:54
  you know, turning on the news around March or so of 2020 and
• 58:59
  being like, see plague. And I was like, well, we've been
• 59:01
  reading about this since like, October, November.
• 59:04
  Yeah, hey, there was some people probably thought the world was
• 59:06
  ending then too. So yeah, it's highly
• 59:11
  transmittable, especially amongst children, and there's
• 59:13
  like 3 pockets in the world where it's like, really?
• 59:15
  I mean, it's basically. Ramped up right now like.
• 59:18
  I mean, it's straight up sound like they didn't even really say
• 59:20
  go into details about it, but it reminded me a lot of that.
• 59:23
  So Eric tells Andrew that he thinks he saw a figure when
• 59:27
  Redmond was being sacrificed. Andrew says to breathe.
• 59:34
  You know there's an explanation for everything they've seen so
• 59:37
  far. And Eric says I'm clear headed,
• 59:40
  always together. That's their little like family
• 59:42
  motto. And then he.
• 59:47
  He nods at when. Yeah, Andrews tells the tells
• 59:51
  Leonard and Sabrina they're only talking to him now, not Eric,
• 59:55
  and Eric turns and nods at when and when.
• 59:57
  This is why it's a great payoff, because this small child, we
• 1:00:01
  tend to forget that she's seven years old, because she is.
• 1:00:05
  An old soul, so to speak, and she's been very level headed and
• 1:00:10
  quiet and calm and she has a fantastic tantrum.
• 1:00:16
  She wants to watch. What was it?
• 1:00:19
  I didn't even write down what it was, but she wanted to watch a
• 1:00:24
  kids show and she has a full blown tantrum about it.
• 1:00:27
  Yeah. And while she's doing that and
• 1:00:30
  Leonard goes into like, I'm a child professional mode and it's
• 1:00:36
  like trying to talk her and he's like using his stuff.
• 1:00:39
  He's like, all right, when that's not an option right now,
• 1:00:42
  here's what we can do. He's like trying to talk her
• 1:00:45
  through it while Eric and Andrew break out of their bindings
• 1:00:50
  basically. So Andrew is able to get all the
• 1:00:54
  way out of his ropes and he runs to the car and Sabrina follows
• 1:00:58
  and fucking kneecaps him. And then he pocket sands her and
• 1:01:04
  climbs into the car. And he's like getting into the
• 1:01:07
  trunk and he's trying to get into the gun safe.
• 1:01:09
  And then when he gets into the gun safe, he's got to load the
• 1:01:12
  bullet into the cartridge and the cartridge into the gun and
• 1:01:14
  the hole in the log in the bottom of the sea.
• 1:01:18
  But while he's doing that, obviously like Sabrina gets the
• 1:01:22
  sand out of her eyes and stabs him.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah, right in the leg. Yeah, And she's, like, stabbing
• 1:01:27
  him. And he's just, like, still
• 1:01:29
  loading his gun. And then he turns around and
• 1:01:31
  he's like, you put it down. And she's like, well, I can't
• 1:01:33
  beat a gun. And he shoots a warning shot.
• 1:01:35
  So that way she knows she's, he's serious.
• 1:01:37
  And she runs away. And so he gets out and he sees
• 1:01:41
  that his tires are slashed. Fuck.
• 1:01:43
  But not all four of them. So insurance won't cover it.
• 1:01:47
  I can't remember, does she come back?
• 1:01:48
  Yes. OK, inside, Andrew tells Leonard
• 1:01:52
  to drop his weapon and as he's saying that, Sabrina comes in
• 1:01:57
  through the back door and he shoots her.
• 1:01:58
  That's right. Yep.
• 1:01:59
  So she's dead now. This is where we have a
• 1:02:02
  flashback to Eric and Andrew having a conversation that
• 1:02:06
  doesn't need to happen in public or with alcohol 'cause they're
• 1:02:10
  talking about all the reasons they shouldn't adopt A child.
• 1:02:13
  They it just starts off with them telling each other harsh.
• 1:02:15
  Truth. Yeah, Eric is like, you have a
• 1:02:18
  temper and I'm worried you're going to murder someone and
• 1:02:21
  Andrew's like you are the buzziest buzzkill that ever
• 1:02:24
  buzzkilled and we never have fun together.
• 1:02:27
  Let's have a. Baby.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah, which, you know, I'm, I'm saying this jokingly, but I do
• 1:02:34
  think that this is an important exercise that prospective
• 1:02:36
  parents need to do. They need to figure out like
• 1:02:39
  what their emotional hang ups are before they create a
• 1:02:41
  generational trauma. And I appreciate them doing this
• 1:02:44
  and not reacting negatively to each other because I think even
• 1:02:48
  at one point where Eric tells Andrew he sucks all the fun out
• 1:02:52
  of the room, he goes, we said we were going to have qualifiers
• 1:02:55
  and he goes, sorry, sometimes it feels like you do that.
• 1:03:00
  So they're just having like a normal conversation.
• 1:03:02
  They're not being loud or anything.
• 1:03:03
  And some guy goes, hey, could you guys keep it down?
• 1:03:07
  And Andrew's like, we're not, we're having a conversation out
• 1:03:11
  in public, we're not being loud. How about you go sit down and
• 1:03:14
  shut the fuck up. And then the guy starts to walk
• 1:03:18
  away, but then he comes back with a bottle and fucking busts
• 1:03:21
  it up on Andrew. And you can see it's very quick,
• 1:03:26
  which I like the way that there's just shot because you
• 1:03:28
  don't get it doesn't linger on his face.
• 1:03:32
  But with this like hindsight knowledge of this is Redmond AKA
• 1:03:36
  O'bannon, you can see it. I see they played it smart
• 1:03:41
  because they give you just enough to like maybe think, but
• 1:03:45
  also enough to be like, well maybe it's not him because he's
• 1:03:48
  like all scruffy and stuff. And I'm going to be really
• 1:03:50
  honest, if I didn't know this is Rupert Grant, I might not have
• 1:03:52
  known it was Rupert Grant. You know what I mean?
• 1:03:54
  Like him, all scruffy and in his flannel, with his beard and
• 1:03:57
  everything like. I you don't get a clear shot of
• 1:03:59
  him, yeah, it's enough to just be like, well, maybe.
• 1:04:01
  Like I would, I feel like if I hadn't known, I would have
• 1:04:04
  watched this movie because I feel like I did that in the
• 1:04:06
  theater. When we first saw the trailer
• 1:04:08
  for this, I was like, I don't feel like Rupert Grant's in this
• 1:04:11
  movie. And I actually had to pull out
• 1:04:13
  my phone and check IMDb. And I was like, oh, shit, that's
• 1:04:17
  Ron Weasley. OK.
• 1:04:22
  But yeah, so then we see them like, you know, he's in the
• 1:04:25
  hospital and going through rehab.
• 1:04:27
  And then he starts, like, learning to fight and he gets a
• 1:04:30
  gun. And basically he's, you know,
• 1:04:32
  you, you don't need to hear him say that this is never going to
• 1:04:35
  happen to him again to understand that that's the
• 1:04:38
  mindset he's going into it with. Yeah, I mean, that was his
• 1:04:41
  moment right there. That's why I think I killed his.
• 1:04:44
  Like his belief in other people. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:51
  I mean, to take what these four horsemen are doing to him.
• 1:04:56
  Oh my God. Are these flashbacks like kind
• 1:04:58
  of tying up with them? OK, the flashbacks tying up with
• 1:05:03
  what the different horsemen represent?
• 1:05:08
  Cause like we've got the parents that are rejecting them, but
• 1:05:11
  then we've got the baby they're adopting that would be
• 1:05:14
  nurturing. We've got him in the hospital
• 1:05:20
  and training and everything that'll be healing and then they
• 1:05:24
  adopt. This would be malice though,
• 1:05:26
  right? Because he did that.
• 1:05:29
  I would think the parents would be malice and then they've got
• 1:05:33
  Wen taking her to house. Guidance maybe, I don't know.
• 1:05:37
  I need more time to sit down with this.
• 1:05:39
  I can't think this through on air.
• 1:05:40
  That's that's a possibility. Actually, I I've never, I didn't
• 1:05:43
  really think about it, but that would make sense for them to do
• 1:05:45
  that. Well, and the reason that popped
• 1:05:47
  in my head is I was going to say because you could feel a little
• 1:05:49
  piece of him died that day. And I was going to say to, you
• 1:05:53
  know, put it in the words of these invaders like a piece of
• 1:05:56
  humanity has been judged. And in his eyes that that piece
• 1:06:00
  of humanity had been judged. But back in present time,
• 1:06:04
  Leonard is putting a hit on Sabrina and beating her with his
• 1:06:07
  beaten stick. Cuz you know, it's the ritual
• 1:06:10
  and can't that's how it goes. Ignore the ritual.
• 1:06:13
  Gotta kill him, gotta unleash the next plague.
• 1:06:16
  He moves the body and Andrew goes and gets Redmond's wallet.
• 1:06:21
  It is O'bannon and he tells Leonard that he's gotta get in
• 1:06:26
  the bathroom. He's like, you get in the
• 1:06:27
  bathroom and you're gonna stay in there and we're gonna go and
• 1:06:31
  steal whatever vehicle you came in in.
• 1:06:33
  He goes to the bathroom and we immediately hear the window
• 1:06:36
  bust. And they're like, well, I guess
• 1:06:40
  we gotta make sure he's still in there so that way he can't
• 1:06:43
  ambush us outside. And they open the bathroom and
• 1:06:45
  they don't see Leonard, but they do see a window that Bautista is
• 1:06:51
  not fitting through. He's not fitting through it.
• 1:06:54
  It's a perfect circle, but it looked like somebody larger,
• 1:06:58
  like made their own hole on the way out because it's also
• 1:07:01
  broken. Yeah, it still doesn't look like
• 1:07:03
  a big enough opening for him though.
• 1:07:05
  Probably not. No.
• 1:07:06
  I would, I mean very much like maybe a different window if
• 1:07:10
  you're wanting to sell this because he's, he's definitely
• 1:07:13
  gonna still be in that bathroom. Yeah, and so Andrew, like, takes
• 1:07:16
  a shot at the shower curtain and then he, like, creeps forward
• 1:07:19
  and then Leonard grabs. Him dude that was solid on him
• 1:07:22
  to not react to getting shot behind the curtain.
• 1:07:24
  There. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:26
  So yeah, he's just straight up tackles him and now he has the
• 1:07:29
  gun. Yeah, he makes Air turn on the
• 1:07:32
  TV and they're seeing multiple planes are crashing at once,
• 1:07:36
  about 700 of them. Now how you gonna explain that
• 1:07:39
  one? It could be like a failure in
• 1:07:42
  the communication system or something in the electrical
• 1:07:45
  grid. I I can believe that just as
• 1:07:48
  easily as I can believe the apocalypse.
• 1:07:50
  That's just like, that's so many different things, like going
• 1:07:55
  wrong for that all to happen at the same time like that.
• 1:08:01
  I'm just saying I think a coincidence is just as likely as
• 1:08:05
  the apocalypse, no matter how fantastical the coincidence is.
• 1:08:09
  See, this is one of the ones right there where I feel like
• 1:08:11
  they get you back. Like they pull you back in.
• 1:08:13
  Like, well, maybe something really is going on because
• 1:08:15
  that's fucking crazy. Well, then Leonard starts
• 1:08:18
  quoting along with the anchorwoman as she's talking,
• 1:08:21
  and he says exactly what she's saying.
• 1:08:23
  And Andrew says that he just simply cannot believe that this
• 1:08:25
  is the apocalypse. He will not allow himself to
• 1:08:28
  believe this. They have a, they have another
• 1:08:30
  way to debunk it, which is something that I thought of when
• 1:08:32
  he did this Sue, and that they are pumping these recordings
• 1:08:35
  into the TV and that he had rehearsed this.
• 1:08:38
  He knew what it was going to say, which that's like a real
• 1:08:41
  thing that could be here. Like that is a legit reason to
• 1:08:44
  maybe think that this isn't actually happening.
• 1:08:47
  Well he asked him one more time if he wants to, if they're going
• 1:08:52
  to make a sacrifice and Andrew says no and he goes.
• 1:08:55
  OK well I want to do this last part outside when I'm gone.
• 1:08:58
  You only have minutes to stop this.
• 1:09:01
  They send Wen to the tree house with her headphones and tell her
• 1:09:03
  not to come down until they get her, and he says all of humanity
• 1:09:11
  has been judged as he slits his throat.
• 1:09:13
  And just as he does that, the storm starts.
• 1:09:17
  Lightning is striking everywhere, the woods are
• 1:09:19
  starting to catch on fire, and Eric says they still have a few
• 1:09:22
  minutes. He said that he saw and feels
• 1:09:24
  that figure, and Andrew admits that he believes what's
• 1:09:30
  happening, but he also isn't willing to sacrifice any of his
• 1:09:33
  family. He just wants to leave.
• 1:09:34
  He wants them to be together even through the end of the
• 1:09:36
  world in Andrew. This is where he points out that
• 1:09:41
  they are the Four Horsemen, Redmond, Malice, Adrian,
• 1:09:44
  Nurturing, Sabrina, Healing, I, wrote Andrew.
• 1:09:48
  It might have been Andrew, I don't know.
• 1:09:49
  This feels like more like Eric right here.
• 1:09:53
  It does feel more like Eric, but.
• 1:09:57
  No, Yeah, Eric. And since he saw someone in the
• 1:09:59
  light, Andrew believes wants to ride it out.
• 1:10:02
  OK, Yeah, I guess I didn't say OK.
• 1:10:04
  It could have been Andrew. Yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Yeah, and Leonard is guidance. Oh, it must be Eric's.
• 1:10:09
  Then I wrote he offers himself, so that has to be OK.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah. He says he's at peace with it.
• 1:10:16
  Besides just seeing the figure and feeling the figure, he also
• 1:10:19
  saw the future with when with her own practice and Andrew
• 1:10:23
  going out to dinner with her. And they're happy and they're
• 1:10:26
  thriving and that's all. And that she's got somebody she
• 1:10:30
  loves. And she learned love from her
• 1:10:32
  dad. 'S yeah, by the way, the 4th one
• 1:10:35
  here is like, apparently like God scorches the earth with his
• 1:10:39
  fingers and what it is, is like lightning bolts are hitting
• 1:10:43
  everything around. So I guess let's confirm that
• 1:10:46
  lightning is God's finger. So Andrew and Wen cry together.
• 1:10:53
  The cabin is on fire so they're walking.
• 1:10:56
  They can't use their truck because of the tires are
• 1:10:58
  slashed. So they walk until they find a
• 1:11:00
  vehicle that the four came in and and it's O'bannon's truck.
• 1:11:04
  The keys are inside. And it feels like deliberate,
• 1:11:08
  like it's not even like, oh, some people keep their keys and
• 1:11:11
  like the visor, like it's like right there in the the center
• 1:11:14
  console. So they drive out to a diner
• 1:11:17
  where the news is showing like rescues for all the plane
• 1:11:19
  crashes. The.
• 1:11:22
  Tsunami, everything is fine. Yeah, the X9 virus like suddenly
• 1:11:27
  isn't a problem. So now do you believe?
• 1:11:31
  No. Even when everything is
• 1:11:33
  magically going back to normal. I still don't.
• 1:11:36
  Again, coincidences are just as possible to me.
• 1:11:42
  They get back in their car and they see like all of the
• 1:11:44
  paraphernalia from the four that are in there.
• 1:11:46
  Like this certificate signed by all of Leonard's second grade,
• 1:11:53
  his after school team that he coaches, Adrian's picture with
• 1:11:57
  her son, Sabrina's nurse badge. Fuck her family relationships, I
• 1:12:01
  guess. And they, they find o'bannon's
• 1:12:05
  like, his gas company. Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Card when you're. Yeah.
• 1:12:09
  So they're about to drive and he turns on the radio and Boogie
• 1:12:13
  Shoes is playing and they're like, kind of quiet for a
• 1:12:16
  second. And he turns it off.
• 1:12:18
  And one turns it back on. And she turns it back off.
• 1:12:22
  Andrew turns it back on. And that's kind of how it ends.
• 1:12:25
  That's how it ends. All right, I still, I think it's
• 1:12:30
  pretty solid and I think an 8 still feels good for me.
• 1:12:39
  They're going to have a really hard fucking time.
• 1:12:42
  They need a lot of therapy. Especially when that's one of
• 1:12:44
  the things I was thinking of the most here is like, yeah, she
• 1:12:47
  might grow up to have a successful practice, but she's
• 1:12:50
  going to be emotionally fucked up from all this.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, yeah, I'm keeping mine at an 8 too.
• 1:12:55
  OK, I would have liked to maybe see how the book ending would
• 1:13:00
  have played out on the screen, like if there's an alternate
• 1:13:02
  ending type feature. OK, that would be my change
• 1:13:06
  probably. Well.
• 1:13:07
  I mean, that's the thing about the ending though, right?
• 1:13:11
  Like it's like you don't know. So I get what you're saying.
• 1:13:14
  Like you like you would have liked to have seen it like in
• 1:13:16
  with. Them not making the choice and
• 1:13:19
  then them kind of wander out into the world and see what's
• 1:13:22
  happening, yeah. Yeah, but then you have a kid
• 1:13:23
  die. Yeah, I mean fuck of a bummer no
• 1:13:29
  matter what, really. Yeah, it's, it's a dark ending
• 1:13:32
  no matter what. God, what would I change?
• 1:13:41
  I I would like to see like the on screen deaths, like you've
• 1:13:45
  been given the R rating. Go all out with what you can do
• 1:13:49
  with that. You know, like I, I, that might
• 1:13:53
  not be his style, but that's still wild to me that you have
• 1:13:56
  like these things happening. You don't want to show it on
• 1:13:59
  screen. I'm just speaking as a horror
• 1:14:01
  fan, you know? Is it that weird?
• 1:14:07
  I didn't say it was weird. I.
• 1:14:08
  Don't know, you gave me a look. I didn't give you a look.
• 1:14:11
  I saw a look. I just like was giggling, that's
• 1:14:14
  all. OK, so throughout the movie
• 1:14:17
  Talia was pretty playful, so I think Talia also gives us an 8.
• 1:14:23
  OK, sounds good. Zoe's ultimate warrior.
• 1:14:27
  I'm gonna say when, because she held her dad's escape as a
• 1:14:30
  tantrum, and that's what Zoe's trying to do right now is get
• 1:14:33
  her away with the. Tantrum.
• 1:14:34
  She also catches grasshoppers. Exactly.
• 1:14:36
  And Zoe likes to capture bugs, so I think that that's a fair,
• 1:14:40
  fair choice. OK.
• 1:14:43
  All right. Who'd you relate to?
• 1:14:46
  I mean, I guess I've related to Andrew considering I didn't
• 1:14:49
  believe any of it. OK, he does end up believing it
• 1:14:52
  though. I guess that's the difference.
• 1:14:55
  Does he believe it in the book too?
• 1:14:56
  I. Don't know.
• 1:14:59
  OK, I guess I relate to Eric mostly because of that moment
• 1:15:09
  with him not wanting to jump in the water with, you know, his
• 1:15:12
  clothes on so he doesn't ruin his electronics because, I mean,
• 1:15:15
  it's, you know, twenty 20s now we have to worry about that.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:15:20
  Just jump in the water all Willy nilly.
• 1:15:22
  You. Have to worry about that in the
• 1:15:23
  20 tens too. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:15:27
  OK, Dream sequel. So you got to choose one.
• 1:15:35
  Either it happened or it didn't happen.
• 1:15:38
  Do you want to live in? Do you want to follow them where
• 1:15:40
  it didn't happen, or do you want to follow where it did happen?
• 1:15:42
  No, I want, listen, if we're going to lean into supernatural
• 1:15:46
  shit, let's just lean all the way in.
• 1:15:49
  They have an opportunity to go back in time.
• 1:15:51
  What are they going to do? How are they going to change
• 1:15:52
  their decisions? Wu from Hot Tub Time Machine
• 1:15:55
  suddenly arrives and he's like, listen guys, I got away.
• 1:15:58
  Yes, exactly. Yes.
• 1:16:02
  Is that really what you want? Yeah, time travel.
• 1:16:05
  I don't want to. I mean, yeah.
• 1:16:10
  I think it would be interesting to like at least explore the
• 1:16:13
  fallout that's happening if it's happening.
• 1:16:15
  But I think if we're going to have like these philosophical
• 1:16:18
  implications of like what, you know, what are the importance of
• 1:16:22
  your choices? What's greater the, you know,
• 1:16:26
  the many or the few? Like if we're going to look at
• 1:16:29
  that, I think having that time travel angle, do you have a
• 1:16:32
  chance to go stop? Would you stop?
• 1:16:34
  Yeah. Would you cause the apocalypse?
• 1:16:36
  I think it keeps like that question up and coming and then
• 1:16:40
  like it also takes it from like a you have a second chance of
• 1:16:42
  this. You've seen the possible
• 1:16:44
  outcome. Will you still make the same
• 1:16:45
  choice? That's fair.
• 1:16:47
  I, you know, I I do kind of like that because it really does.
• 1:16:51
  It just keeps playing with that premise.
• 1:16:53
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:16:53
  That sounds like a solid one. OK.
• 1:16:56
  Cool. You tagline the cabin was a
• 1:17:02
  rocking so they came and knocking.
• 1:17:04
  It's not what you believe in, it's who you believe in.
• 1:17:07
  OK, that's deep. I was going for a joke and you
• 1:17:10
  went for a deep one. Hey man, that's just where I'm
• 1:17:14
  at tonight. OK, well that's our tagline.
• 1:17:19
  So now it is time for reviews. OK, so I've got our Internet
• 1:17:23
  review. Pulled one from IMDb from
• 1:17:26
  somebody that watched it on release.
• 1:17:29
  So they say first of all, it's rated 2 out of 10.
• 1:17:32
  OK, Tame and Mild is what it's titled.
• 1:17:36
  Tame and mild are not words I would use to describe any other
• 1:17:39
  Shyamalan movie. I don't understand why he takes
• 1:17:41
  this route with Knock at the Cabin.
• 1:17:43
  It's not restricted by PG13 rating like so many other horror
• 1:17:46
  movies from cowardly slash greedy studios.
• 1:17:49
  Looking at you Megan. So why were there numerous times
• 1:17:53
  where this movie used strategy seen in PG13 horror flicks?
• 1:17:56
  Every time there was anything close to violence record, the
• 1:17:59
  camera cuts away. I don't even know what caused us
• 1:18:02
  to get an R rating. As for the movie itself, it's
• 1:18:05
  extremely boring and has a very little of value.
• 1:18:07
  Nothing stands out, nothing impressed me.
• 1:18:10
  The film making is more than competent, but there is almost
• 1:18:12
  no intrigue in the story and it's one of the preachiest
• 1:18:16
  movies I've seen in a long time. As someone who's been more
• 1:18:20
  patient than most with Shyamalan flops, that patience is starting
• 1:18:24
  to dwindle. I'll always be grateful for
• 1:18:27
  movies like Unbreakable, Split Science, and many others, but I
• 1:18:31
  hope he can get back on track soon.
• 1:18:34
  OK. I don't understand, like I I
• 1:18:41
  agree with the whole it feels PG13 for it to be an RA thing so
• 1:18:46
  that would be something that I would like to have changed to.
• 1:18:49
  I feel like the story has a lot of intrigue to it though.
• 1:18:52
  Like that's the thing. Like it's supposed to keep you
• 1:18:54
  guessing. That's what I like about this
• 1:18:56
  movie, is the story of the family.
• 1:18:59
  That's what draws me to it, is seeing that grow.
• 1:19:04
  Yeah, I do agree that at times it can be preachy.
• 1:19:08
  I listen, I don't want to hurt your feelings.
• 1:19:10
  I don't want to hurt this reviewer's feelings.
• 1:19:12
  I'm not upset by the lack of onscreen gore.
• 1:19:15
  I don't think it's always necessary for a horror movie to
• 1:19:18
  be brutal. Oh, I don't either, But I mean
• 1:19:21
  like, if you're doing the brutal things, like, you know, like
• 1:19:23
  you're already doing it. But I I'm just saying like, you
• 1:19:26
  don't necessarily have to see it to feel it, you know what I
• 1:19:29
  mean? You don't have to, no, But I,
• 1:19:31
  yeah, whatever. I guess it's like different,
• 1:19:34
  it's, you know, for different people.
• 1:19:35
  I'm one of those people. Like if you like, I like
• 1:19:37
  watching gory horror movies, you know, that's just my thing.
• 1:19:40
  So it doesn't have to always be like that.
• 1:19:43
  But like if you're serving up some gory moments like somebody
• 1:19:46
  taking makeshift homemade weapons like axes and shit and
• 1:19:50
  going to like start killing somebody with it, then like,
• 1:19:53
  sure, let me see what that looks like.
• 1:19:55
  I don't necessarily know what they're trying to preach about
• 1:19:57
  too. If you're saying it's preachy,
• 1:19:59
  like, why like? What what is the message that
• 1:20:04
  it's trying to get? That you have to believe in
• 1:20:10
  something bigger than yourself and make decisions that you
• 1:20:13
  don't always agree with because of the greater good.
• 1:20:15
  But I think you need to have. I do think sometimes the
• 1:20:21
  sacrifice is required, but I think it should be.
• 1:20:25
  This is a very extreme situation though.
• 1:20:27
  More apparent than what is given here.
• 1:20:30
  I just don't think it was enough proof for me to want to make
• 1:20:33
  that. That's fine.
• 1:20:35
  I was just trying to say earlier I I feel like they give people
• 1:20:39
  reasons too, and maybe not you, but people like me and people
• 1:20:42
  like other people out there watching this movie.
• 1:20:44
  Like a lot is presented in the movie that will bring you back
• 1:20:48
  and forth where you'll go would. You kill me.
• 1:20:51
  Well, hold on, man, I'm trying to like get my piece out.
• 1:20:55
  No, I wouldn't kill you. That's the thing.
• 1:20:57
  Like it's interesting putting yourself in the shoes of that
• 1:20:59
  person because the more you see shit like that, like you start
• 1:21:04
  to question what is actually happening and you have to
• 1:21:09
  actually start giving serious. Like you have to seriously
• 1:21:12
  entertain the question at a certain point, once enough proof
• 1:21:16
  is given to you. And I wouldn't choose you to
• 1:21:20
  die. I would always choose myself.
• 1:21:23
  Like I wouldn't want to kill anybody else.
• 1:21:25
  I'd rather be the sacrifice. So then you want me to murder
• 1:21:27
  you? And the circumstances of the
• 1:21:32
  world ending. And it's either me or the entire
• 1:21:37
  world, yes. I'm not doing it.
• 1:21:39
  All right, I guess I'm killing you.
• 1:21:43
  All I'm trying to say is it's an interesting premise and I think
• 1:21:45
  it's really cool. I think it's really cool that
• 1:21:47
  the movie does that. Like, I think it's really fun
• 1:21:50
  for for the believers out there, for people that are able to be
• 1:21:53
  swayed. And, you know, I feel like
• 1:21:54
  you'll probably have a, you know, like you, you might have
• 1:21:57
  more fun if that's the case for you because, you know, you're,
• 1:22:02
  you're able to switch sides. I thought it was a unique thing.
• 1:22:06
  Like, it's been a long time since I've had a movie do
• 1:22:08
  anything like that to me. I do like this movie.
• 1:22:10
  I do think it was intriguing, but like I said, mostly because
• 1:22:13
  I I liked the story behind the family that was involved.
• 1:22:17
  Yeah, and I like that too. And that's what I thought made
• 1:22:19
  it make such a huge impact is because they build them up so
• 1:22:23
  well. They do such a good job of
• 1:22:25
  making you care for them and root for them.
• 1:22:28
  And then like, it's like, well, fuck, man, they have to do this.
• 1:22:30
  Like something like they're gonna end up having to actually
• 1:22:33
  make a choice. OK, I'll.
• 1:22:35
  I'll move over to listen reviews.
• 1:22:38
  All right, so we'll start off with our Instagram review from
• 1:22:40
  Michael E Howard, who says I put off watching Knock at the Cabin
• 1:22:44
  because I thought it would be just another generic house
• 1:22:46
  invasion movie. Boy, was I wrong.
• 1:22:49
  The movie starts slowly, but the tensions build and build right
• 1:22:52
  up into the end. I cannot even imagine if my
• 1:22:54
  husband and I were in that situation.
• 1:22:57
  The cast is amazing as well. And then Shyamalan really did a
• 1:22:59
  great job on this one. 8.75 out of 10.
• 1:23:02
  Nice. Yeah.
• 1:23:04
  I'd see. That's the thing about this is,
• 1:23:06
  like, the tension really does start to build, like, overtime
• 1:23:09
  because, like, the six keep getting raised.
• 1:23:11
  So you see that they're actually killing themselves there too,
• 1:23:14
  which I think is also a thing that kind of gives them a little
• 1:23:17
  bit more credibility is like, they're willing to die for this
• 1:23:19
  also. I think, but I think another
• 1:23:21
  part of the thing, the other, the flip side of that coin is
• 1:23:24
  that there's just also enough evidence to think that it's a
• 1:23:28
  targeted attack because it is somebody who has.
• 1:23:31
  Yeah, that's been my point, this whole.
• 1:23:32
  Time attacked Andrew in the past.
• 1:23:36
  Who's that guy? Like Redmond?
• 1:23:38
  Yeah. Well, yeah, but not the other
• 1:23:40
  people like one of them is like a mother the.
• 1:23:42
  Other is a message board though. Yeah, they could just all be
• 1:23:46
  like. I know.
• 1:23:47
  Religious extremists. I I am on the same side as you.
• 1:23:51
  They give enough deniability there.
• 1:23:53
  They give reasons for both. I know I was just bringing up a
• 1:23:56
  point we hadn't really discussed much.
• 1:23:58
  Oh, I thought that we had discussed that.
• 1:23:59
  Not really. Really.
• 1:24:01
  OK, I thought that. I mean, yeah, like, they do a
• 1:24:03
  great job of doing that. Like, I feel like that is part
• 1:24:06
  of the tension because it's like, well, shit, are they
• 1:24:08
  actually there to just kill them?
• 1:24:09
  Are they really just doing this weird, fucked up thing?
• 1:24:11
  It's like a cult, OK? Over on Twitter, Chad says
• 1:24:16
  Batista steals the movie and the first two acts are very tense
• 1:24:19
  and often touching, and then it totally falls apart in the third
• 1:24:22
  act. I'm a huge fan of the book, and
• 1:24:24
  the change that M makes from the book is so much less impactful.
• 1:24:27
  I hate to judge movies against the book, but in this case I
• 1:24:31
  just can't help it. I've seen worse in that
• 1:24:34
  Shyamalan movies, but I've also seen a hell of a lot better.
• 1:24:37
  I think that's a fair way to put it.
• 1:24:39
  I've seen worse, but I've seen better I those and was it?
• 1:24:43
  Did he put in the twist because he needed A twist that there was
• 1:24:47
  no twist? Was that him being like self
• 1:24:50
  referential? See, we're we're getting to
• 1:24:52
  yeah, he's got a When you watch a Shyamalan movie, you get too
• 1:24:55
  caught up like, well, what's the twist gonna be?
• 1:24:58
  And like, yeah, like, I guess like this is just a movie.
• 1:25:01
  It just plays out normally. So like, is that the twist
• 1:25:04
  itself? Yeah, but I mean, like, did he
• 1:25:07
  change the ending because he needed it to be unexpected from
• 1:25:10
  people that were familiar with the book?
• 1:25:11
  He didn't say that. He said he wanted to change it
• 1:25:13
  because he wanted to change the tone.
• 1:25:15
  That's that's what he says. So Kevy Kev says it was
• 1:25:21
  enjoyable. Batista really stretched his
• 1:25:23
  acting traps here and everyone else put in the leg break for
• 1:25:26
  all around fine performances. I'd say seven out 10.
• 1:25:28
  Not M Night's best film, but a good one.
• 1:25:30
  OK, yeah. See, I wish I had more to judge
• 1:25:35
  from him because I have seen this, I've seen the happening
• 1:25:40
  and I've seen Split, OK. And that's my only exposure to
• 1:25:49
  Shyamalan. That's a wild he's got no We
• 1:25:52
  watched the visit together. Oh yeah, the visit, I forgot
• 1:25:54
  that that was that's a really good.
• 1:25:55
  One. Yeah.
• 1:25:57
  Sixth Sense. I know you've never seen it.
• 1:26:00
  You need to see it. It's such a good movie.
• 1:26:02
  I'm sure it is. It's just one of those ones
• 1:26:04
  where people have talked about the ending so much, it's just
• 1:26:06
  like, why bother? But like, even knowing that,
• 1:26:09
  like you can still like it's one of those that like going back
• 1:26:11
  and watching it again, you're like, oh, wow.
• 1:26:13
  And. It's talking about.
• 1:26:14
  Great moments in it. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure that,
• 1:26:16
  like, the ending isn't the whole thing, but like, with that one
• 1:26:19
  right there, like I feel like it really lessens the impact and
• 1:26:23
  like the experience that cheapens the whole thing.
• 1:26:25
  That's got to suck for a filmmaker.
• 1:26:27
  Like, your movie's so big that everybody just talks about the
• 1:26:29
  ending all the times. Like, no, I want people to
• 1:26:31
  experience it. It's got to suck what Zombie
• 1:26:34
  says. I saw this at the theaters.
• 1:26:36
  I thought it was pretty good. The movie didn't move by really
• 1:26:39
  fast. Wish we could have gotten more
• 1:26:41
  of the four horse people. There were also like actual
• 1:26:46
  horse people pack. In the.
• 1:26:49
  Night Yeah, there were also some dumb decisions by a few
• 1:26:53
  characters as long as M Night has the village, he really can't
• 1:26:57
  make anything worse see the. Village is one I haven't seen.
• 1:27:00
  I know the twist on that one. I do too again.
• 1:27:04
  I'd probably still watch it. I know the the twist in the
• 1:27:07
  happening and I still watch that, but that's more 'cause
• 1:27:10
  it's dumb and I just like to watch Mark Wahlberg go.
• 1:27:12
  What? No, that's the only reason.
• 1:27:15
  No, that's. Not a way to convince somebody
• 1:27:17
  that you're not there to murder them.
• 1:27:19
  I would be at 200% more positive that you're gonna murder me.
• 1:27:22
  Yeah, yeah. We might need to expand our We
• 1:27:27
  need to expand our M night. What a ridiculous movie.
• 1:27:31
  You know, when you really think about it, it's not that bad.
• 1:27:34
  It's just how it was executed. See it maybe that's why he
• 1:27:37
  doesn't do gore cause the one movie that he did a lot of gore
• 1:27:40
  and he lost like the message. You don't even get gore in that
• 1:27:43
  though. You just see a lot of people
• 1:27:44
  like jumping off buildings, you know, you don't see the
• 1:27:47
  aftermath. That's one that I've always read
• 1:27:52
  that he it's almost like a malignant situation where he
• 1:27:58
  wanted it to be super like B movie ask, like he wanted it to
• 1:28:03
  feel just like a fucking cheap good time.
• 1:28:07
  And maybe that's just him trying to do a revision of history.
• 1:28:11
  Like no, that's what I really want it to be.
• 1:28:13
  But no guys, I swear. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:28:15
  I feel like it has its own merits.
• 1:28:18
  Final review, Doctor Aquile Boob.
• 1:28:23
  He's gotten his doctorate since we last saw this.
• 1:28:25
  One boob. Just one.
• 1:28:28
  There's three dots there so maybe there's more to, I don't
• 1:28:31
  know. I liked it.
• 1:28:32
  A trippy movie that had you guessing for most of it.
• 1:28:34
  Those deaths and reveals were pretty brutal.
• 1:28:37
  Hate that M Night gets flagged for some of his stuff.
• 1:28:39
  I really like his films. I agree man.
• 1:28:42
  I feel like it sucks that he kind of is automatically written
• 1:28:45
  off by some people, but like, he's like, yeah, the movies,
• 1:28:50
  like The Visit, it's awesome. I think it's, I think it's just
• 1:28:53
  one of those that like he does a lot of different types of movies
• 1:28:57
  and his main thing is that, well, there's always going to be
• 1:28:59
  a twist there and like that's easy to make fun of.
• 1:29:01
  But he's got like a wide range in his movies.
• 1:29:04
  And I think our whole discussion about like you thought old
• 1:29:07
  looked really stupid and I wanted to see it and I thought
• 1:29:09
  knock at the cabin looked really stupid and you wanted to see it.
• 1:29:12
  I think it just speaks to like, he can reach a wide audience if
• 1:29:17
  you're willing to just like, not read him off for being M Night
• 1:29:20
  Jomalan. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:29:21
  Which was the lesson I learned this week, brought to you by
• 1:29:24
  Veggie Tales. Yeah, I, yeah, Like I, I need to
• 1:29:33
  check some of this stuff out, even in the older shit that I
• 1:29:35
  haven't seen. I want to watch like those the
• 1:29:38
  Unbreakable movie with Sam Jackson.
• 1:29:41
  I can't believe you haven't seen that, honestly.
• 1:29:43
  I know. Oh, well.
• 1:29:46
  OK, so that's it for reviews. So that's it for this week's
• 1:29:49
  episode, everybody. Thank you guys for being here.
• 1:29:52
  Next week we're getting freaking.
• 1:29:55
  Yeah. Which right now I believe it's
• 1:29:58
  got the same streaming options as.
• 1:30:02
  Knock at the cabin. Knock at the cabin.
• 1:30:04
  Oh yeah. You can stream it on Peacock or
• 1:30:07
  FUBU TV, Hulu Premium, YouTube TV Premium, or you can rent it
• 1:30:12
  from Prime, Google Play, or Fandango at home.
• 1:30:17
  Watched that once a long time ago, so not that long obviously
• 1:30:22
  'cause it's a fairly new movie, but I'm excited to check that
• 1:30:25
  one out again. So you can find us on social
• 1:30:30
  media. We have a Twitter and a blue
• 1:30:34
  sky. It's at least fav pod.
• 1:30:36
  You can find us on Instagram and threads with his favorite scary
• 1:30:38
  movie podcast. And we have a Gmail account,
• 1:30:42
  least favorite scarymovie@gmail.com so you can
• 1:30:44
  e-mail us whatever you want there.
• 1:30:47
  We would also like to shout out our patrons, Joe.
• 1:30:52
  Freaky Trent. As is his name, Amber Michael
• 1:30:56
  Tyler and Lord Zombie. Thank you guys so much for being
• 1:30:59
  patrons and thank you guys for your donations for our 'cause
• 1:31:03
  this month where we're donating your all's proceeds to the
• 1:31:06
  Trevor Project. If you are unable to do so
• 1:31:11
  financially through Patreon, you can always just like share,
• 1:31:15
  leave us a little review, just five star.
• 1:31:17
  That's all you got to do. Makes a big difference to us.
• 1:31:20
  But if you want to type something out that would be
• 1:31:22
  really special, we'll appreciate it and we'll read it on the
• 1:31:24
  show. And even if it's mean, we might
• 1:31:27
  read it. But please don't leave any mean
• 1:31:29
  messages for. Us, I'm not going to read the
• 1:31:30
  mean messages. Yeah, so that's it.
• 1:31:34
  If you can't do that, well, I guess you can do that just like
• 1:31:39
  Mike and share stuff, you know, with people.
• 1:31:42
  Like if you have anybody into horror movies, you know, just
• 1:31:45
  let them know about us. And yeah, that that goes a long
• 1:31:48
  way. You know, word of mouth, that
• 1:31:49
  stuff right there. You guys have been really nice
• 1:31:52
  for us and we appreciate all that you guys do.
• 1:31:54
  So all right, thank you guys for being here.
• 1:31:56
  We'll see you guys next week with Freaky.
• 1:31:58
  See you. Bye.
• 1:31:59
  Bye. Zoe, can you calm down?