Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / MISSING CELESTE, 13, DECOMPOSES IN STAR'S TESLA TRUNK, WHINES BC TOUR CANCELS
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a missing little girl celested
- 0:08Speaker 1: just thirteen years old, which he goes missing, found decomposing,
- 0:16Speaker 1: partially dismembered, and a star's tesla trunk who is now
- 0:23Speaker 1: whining because his tour is canceled. I means he Grace,
- 0:29Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
- 0:31Speaker 1: being with.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Us celest Hernandez, an eleven year old girl, full of
- 0:35Speaker 2: life but also young and naive. When given the chance
- 0:38Speaker 2: to chat with an older boy online, she engaged unknowingly
- 0:42Speaker 2: opening the door to a nightmare.
- 0:45Speaker 1: The music star I'm talking about has gone multi platinum.
- 0:51Speaker 1: But before I talk about all of his musical success
- 0:54Speaker 1: and how much money he's making and how famous he is,
- 0:58Speaker 1: can I show you what he just reposted? Okay of
- 1:02Speaker 1: a guy chopping up lunching me and he says me,
- 1:07Speaker 1: if I see her talk with other dudes, you know,
- 1:12Speaker 1: not a good look when you're then thirteen year old
- 1:17Speaker 1: girlfriend is found dismembered and decomposing in your tesla. And
- 1:24Speaker 1: as I recall to Israel Salas Rodriguez joining a senior
- 1:28Speaker 1: news reporter, US son not just dismembered and decomposing. I
- 1:35Speaker 1: mean you, by the way, that video is from at
- 1:39Speaker 1: Brian on TikTok. You could smell the trunk as you
- 1:44Speaker 1: approached the tesla. And isn't this true? Israel Salas Rodriguez
- 1:50Speaker 1: that the tesla was noticed by the neighborhood because it
- 1:56Speaker 1: was so dusty and it had been sitting there for
- 1:59Speaker 1: so long. My point is, how could somebody put a
- 2:04Speaker 1: then thirteen year old little girl in a trunk and
- 2:07Speaker 1: leave the car there for weeks on end? How long
- 2:12Speaker 1: was that car sitting there, Israel.
- 2:13Speaker 3: That's right, Nancy. So the car was reportedly sitting there
- 2:15Speaker 3: for weeks and an the fluent neighborhood in Los Angeles,
- 2:18Speaker 3: the Hollywood Hills neighbors complained about a foul order coming
- 2:22Speaker 3: from the tesla. However, it wasn't until early September when
- 2:26Speaker 3: authorities finally impounded that vehicle from the neighborhood.
- 2:29Speaker 1: To most of Castillo joining us out of Orange County.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Private investigator for the Geordoulian Law Group, former supervisor detective
- 2:38Speaker 1: from LAPD and you can find him at Moses Castillo
- 2:41Speaker 1: Investigations dot com. Moses, you just heard Israel south Rodriguez
- 2:46Speaker 1: refer to Hollywood Hills as like you know a cushi
- 2:51Speaker 1: posh neighborhood. He's right, it is. Tell me about Hollywood
- 2:54Speaker 1: Hills and why anybody would notice a dusty tesla with
- 2:58Speaker 1: dents in it sitting there for a really long time.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Not these people, their cars are all like parked in
- 3:05Speaker 1: their five car garages. Nobody's leaving a junk car out
- 3:10Speaker 1: on the street in Hollywood Hills. Yeah, this is an
- 3:12Speaker 1: upscode neighborhood.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Who celebrities are there, you know, all the time, and
- 3:16Speaker 4: they cared for the cars and when they see something
- 3:18Speaker 4: that's out.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Of out of whack, especially the order.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I'm so surprised that the initial response didn't cause somebody
- 3:26Speaker 4: to open the trunk because they would have discovered the
- 3:28Speaker 4: body right there and there.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You know, we're showing you the toe lot where it
- 3:31Speaker 1: ended up. That's the last thing you want is your
- 3:35Speaker 1: car ending up in a toe lot, you know. Joe
- 3:38Speaker 1: Scott Morgan joining me, Professor forensics, Jacksonville State University, author
- 3:42Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet, and he's a star of
- 3:45Speaker 1: a hit podcast series, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Joe Scott three weeks at least three weeks and the
- 3:54Speaker 1: same soccer moms and executive dads, you know, jog buy
- 4:00Speaker 1: and they're matching out this and go, wow, that Tessa's
- 4:03Speaker 1: been there a long time. What's that smell? Really? Three weeks?
- 4:08Speaker 1: What was going on in that trunk? Joe Scott, Well, what.
- 4:10Speaker 5: Was going on in the truck is advanced decomposition. And
- 4:14Speaker 5: let me throw this at you, Nancy. I don't know
- 4:18Speaker 5: that the body was always in the trunk. The body
- 4:22Speaker 5: may have been decomposing somewhere else placed in the trunk, which, hey,
- 4:27Speaker 5: I've gotten a little education now on these tesla's. They
- 4:29Speaker 5: actually refer to them as a fronk because the trunk
- 4:33Speaker 5: is on the front of the car, and the remains
- 4:37Speaker 5: may have gotten so foul that they were placed into
- 4:40Speaker 5: the car and then the car removed down the road
- 4:43Speaker 5: and left abandoned on the side of the road. So
- 4:45Speaker 5: I don't know that we can actually say that her
- 4:47Speaker 5: remains had been in there for the entire time.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I'm going to circle back to you
- 4:51Speaker 1: on that. Joe Scott, Israel Salas Rodriguez Israel, was the
- 4:55Speaker 1: tesla moved a couple of times when it was sitting
- 4:57Speaker 1: out on the street.
- 4:58Speaker 3: That's unclear right now, Dan However, there was of reports
- 5:01Speaker 3: from neighbors that the Tesla was parked in a home
- 5:06Speaker 3: in that same area in the Hollywood Hills, and then
- 5:08Speaker 3: days later it was parked on the sidewalk.
- 5:11Speaker 1: And if some reports were staying the car was moved
- 5:13Speaker 1: from one spot to the next, I can't confirm that
- 5:16Speaker 1: right now. But Joe Scott, let me ask you a question.
- 5:18Speaker 1: You know, Joe Scott, you're the death investigator. I'm just
- 5:22Speaker 1: a trial lawyer. But before I let you get up
- 5:26Speaker 1: on the stand and blurt that out, do you have
- 5:31Speaker 1: any reason, any scintilla spec of evidence to suggest Celeste's
- 5:36Speaker 1: body was somewhere else decomposing and then moved to the
- 5:40Speaker 1: trunk or is this your theory?
- 5:42Speaker 5: Well? I do know this, and yeah, it's my theory
- 5:45Speaker 5: and I'll stand by it. I know that if normal
- 5:51Speaker 5: people were around decomposing bodies and they not used to
- 5:55Speaker 5: being around them, as the body gets more and more progressively,
- 5:59Speaker 5: foul want to put as much distance between themselves and
- 6:03Speaker 5: the remains. So I think that that may have been
- 6:06Speaker 5: what had happened here.
- 6:07Speaker 1: And wouldn't you agree straight out? To a veteran trial lawyer,
- 6:12Speaker 1: Joanna Nevis, She is a premier criminal defense attorney and
- 6:17Speaker 1: founder of the Nevis Law Firm. Joanna, I know you
- 6:22Speaker 1: don't want to hear this in your capacity as a
- 6:24Speaker 1: defense lawyer, but somebody was moving that car from place
- 6:28Speaker 1: to place, which goes to intent.
- 6:32Speaker 5: Right.
- 6:32Speaker 1: If there's a car, a beat up car, sitting right
- 6:35Speaker 1: in front of somebody's house and it sits there for
- 6:37Speaker 1: two weeks, they're going to call about it, But if
- 6:40Speaker 1: it moves around, it's less likely to get called in.
- 6:44Speaker 1: I'm talking about intent to hide the little girl's dead body, Joanna.
- 6:49Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, I don't disagree with you from the perspective
- 6:52Speaker 6: of whoever was driving that vehicle and moving in around
- 6:57Speaker 6: may have had an intent. But was my client the
- 7:00Speaker 6: person that was moving in around or does my client
- 7:03Speaker 6: have an alibi for where they may have been all
- 7:06Speaker 6: of them each time that that car was moving with
- 7:08Speaker 6: that foul smelling body in it, So just because it
- 7:11Speaker 6: was moving, to not put it with the person that
- 7:14Speaker 6: I may be defending at the time.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good point. I'm glad you told me that.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Now I'm going to try to find a way to
- 7:20Speaker 1: shoot down that theory. Guys, let's start at the beginning.
- 7:22Speaker 1: We've gotten ahead of ourselves.
- 7:23Speaker 7: Listen, Residents in Hollywood Hills grow tired of a dusty
- 7:27Speaker 7: twenty twenty three Tesla model why where the Texas play
- 7:30Speaker 7: parked on the street for a month and report the vehicle.
- 7:33Speaker 7: Days later, employees of Hollywood Toe notice a foul odor
- 7:36Speaker 7: coming from the car and call police. Officers discover a
- 7:40Speaker 7: decomposing body found in a bag in the front of
- 7:42Speaker 7: the tesla. The tesla is registered in Hempstead, Texas. Okay,
- 7:46Speaker 7: that's another red flag here.
- 7:48Speaker 1: We are in Hollywood Hills with all the rich people
- 7:51Speaker 1: and they notice a dusty, dirty tesla with a fronk.
- 7:57Speaker 1: As Jesscott Morgan pointed out, the trunk is in the front,
- 8:00Speaker 1: a little bit dinged up, and it goes from place
- 8:02Speaker 1: to place to place within the Hollywood Hills area. You know,
- 8:07Speaker 1: then it gets towd. Nobody comes to claim it. Gee,
- 8:12Speaker 1: I wonder why. I think I know why. Listen.
- 8:14Speaker 7: Human remains wrapped in plastic, placed in a bag and
- 8:17Speaker 7: hidden in the front trunk of the tesla are severely
- 8:20Speaker 7: decomposed and partially dismembered. Please say the person was a
- 8:25Speaker 7: female five foot two weighing seventy one pounds with wavy
- 8:28Speaker 7: black hair, and was wearing a tube top in black leggings.
- 8:32Speaker 7: The person appears deceased inside the vehicle for an extended
- 8:35Speaker 7: period of time before being found.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Straight out to renowned psychoanalyst doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us
- 8:42Speaker 1: from this jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breakers.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You can see her now on Peacock and you can
- 8:48Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. Dr Bethany, can
- 8:54Speaker 1: I talk to you about this little girl? Okay? She
- 8:58Speaker 1: first goes missing from her home when she is just
- 9:01Speaker 1: turned thirteen. She comes back, she's reported missing, she's found,
- 9:05Speaker 1: she's brought back, everything's fine. Then she disappears again and
- 9:11Speaker 1: she's not a reported missing. Let that just sink in.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I want you to marinate that just a moment, Doctor
- 9:20Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall. What I want to talk to you about
- 9:23Speaker 1: is the mind of a killer that would take a
- 9:28Speaker 1: seventy one pound little teen girl and dismember her, put
- 9:36Speaker 1: her in a plastic bag like she's trash, and put
- 9:39Speaker 1: her in the hot trunk of a car. You know
- 9:42Speaker 1: how hot it gets in California at this time of year. Now,
- 9:46Speaker 1: back time, she's been in that trunk for weeks, and
- 9:51Speaker 1: the person knows it, and they move the car from
- 9:53Speaker 1: spot to spot so it's not detected. I mean, come on,
- 9:58Speaker 1: I'm calling all ring cams right now. Who moved that tesla?
- 10:04Speaker 1: But the mind it would take to murder a little
- 10:09Speaker 1: girl seventy one pounds. She was last saying wearing Hello,
- 10:14Speaker 1: Kitty sandals, okay, and put her in a trunk and
- 10:20Speaker 1: leave her there.
- 10:21Speaker 8: Help me out, Bethany, Nancy, I have two words coercive control.
- 10:26Speaker 8: Whoever did this had had control over a miner sufficiently
- 10:32Speaker 8: so that her family was unable to find her. What
- 10:35Speaker 8: thirteen year old does not want to be home with
- 10:38Speaker 8: their parents unless they're being groomed and brainwashed by somebody
- 10:43Speaker 8: who has, as we can see from.
- 10:44Speaker 1: The evidence, intent to kill.
- 10:47Speaker 8: In terms of the mind of this killer, this killer
- 10:50Speaker 8: didn't prepare a dump sight for the body, which I
- 10:53Speaker 8: find extremely interesting, meaning that they thought about killing the victim,
- 10:59Speaker 8: they didn't think about what they were going to do
- 11:01Speaker 8: with her afterwards. My Beverly Hills office is very close.
- 11:05Speaker 1: To the Hollywood Hills.
- 11:06Speaker 8: And let me tell you, Nancy, you do not leave
- 11:08Speaker 8: a car out on the street in the Beverly Hills.
- 11:10Speaker 8: In Beverly Hills, junk cars are not sitting around. Dirty
- 11:14Speaker 8: cars are not sitting around. Dirty cars are not driven.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Through the streets.
- 11:18Speaker 8: So the fact that this perp left the car there
- 11:22Speaker 8: not thinking that somebody would notice this is somebody who
- 11:26Speaker 8: doesn't feel he or she is going to get in trouble,
- 11:29Speaker 8: doesn't have a conscience, feels that this girl belonged to him,
- 11:34Speaker 8: that he was going to get away with this. And
- 11:36Speaker 8: I'm going to guess sex aggression and homicide are linked together,
- 11:42Speaker 8: that whoever did this had a sexual relationship with this
- 11:45Speaker 8: young woman, perhaps a pedophile or as we saw in
- 11:49Speaker 8: the case with R. Kelly, that he wants to collect
- 11:53Speaker 8: young women with whom he can have control and then
- 11:56Speaker 8: as they age out, he needs to get rid of them.
- 11:59Speaker 1: I just don't know how you connect murder and dismemberment
- 12:04Speaker 1: and putting her in a bag to roast in a
- 12:08Speaker 1: hot car with sex. Okay, that's your world, notine. I
- 12:15Speaker 1: am trying to find out who did this, prove it
- 12:19Speaker 1: and get a conviction. That's what I want to see.
- 12:22Speaker 1: There's somebody who say many cans of worms here. Why
- 12:24Speaker 1: wasn't she reported missing? The second time. Just what, I'm sorry?
- 12:28Speaker 8: What somebody who takes control of a thirteen year old,
- 12:31Speaker 8: removes her from her family is going to have a
- 12:33Speaker 8: fixed sexual interest in children and girls, and particularly children
- 12:38Speaker 8: that they feel they can have control over.
- 12:40Speaker 1: You know what, She's got a good point too, Joanna Nevis,
- 12:43Speaker 1: who is a veteran criminal defense attorney founded the Nevis
- 12:46Speaker 1: Law Firm. Joanna, she's got a point. Now. You dodged.
- 12:50Speaker 1: You know what, did you play dodgeball in college, Joanna?
- 12:54Speaker 1: Because you're really adroit at this. You dodged my first one,
- 12:59Speaker 1: my first torpedo to the defense here. It was a
- 13:03Speaker 1: pretty good dodge too. But could you tell me any reason,
- 13:07Speaker 1: Joanna Nevis, then an adult would have a child, whatever reason?
- 13:13Speaker 6: What?
- 13:14Speaker 1: He wanted to foster her. He wanted to expand her horizons,
- 13:20Speaker 1: help her get her grad degree, give her piano lessons.
- 13:23Speaker 1: What help me out here? Why else? If it wasn't
- 13:26Speaker 1: for sex, would you keep a thirteen year old girl?
- 13:28Speaker 6: Yeah? Nancy, I think that we're talking about two different situations, right.
- 13:32Speaker 6: Do we have the same person the same set of circumstances.
- 13:36Speaker 6: Are we talking about an inappropriate relationship with a child,
- 13:40Speaker 6: or are we talking about dismemberment and murder. If somebody
- 13:45Speaker 6: is culpable for one thing, it does not necessarily mean
- 13:48Speaker 6: that there is direct evidence and proof that they are
- 13:51Speaker 6: culpable for the next. And so I think we can't
- 13:54Speaker 6: conflate those issues without more and definitely the profit fusion
- 14:00Speaker 6: and law enforcement as they're investigating it, are going to
- 14:03Speaker 6: have to take the time to explore all of the
- 14:06Speaker 6: facts and supporting evidence to tie an inappropriate relationship with
- 14:11Speaker 6: an actual homicide.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Johanna Nevis, it's amazing. Okay, forget the dodgeball question. You
- 14:17Speaker 1: know the snake charmer. As the cobra goes back and forth,
- 14:23Speaker 1: you start going back and forth and suddenly you're in
- 14:25Speaker 1: sync with the snake. Yeah, I'm not in sync with you,
- 14:29Speaker 1: because it's very hard for me to parse, g Did
- 14:33Speaker 1: the pedophile kill her or did the pedophile use her
- 14:39Speaker 1: sexually and then somebody else snuck it in the night
- 14:42Speaker 1: and murdered her. Okay, that's a fun thing for Joanna
- 14:46Speaker 1: Nevis and I to discuss. But in the meantime, listen
- 14:49Speaker 1: to this.
- 14:49Speaker 9: It's a little weird to see a car that I
- 14:51Speaker 9: haven't seen here for a long time had a big
- 14:52Speaker 9: dent on.
- 14:53Speaker 1: It had a Texas plate on it, so all a
- 14:55Speaker 1: little odd.
- 14:56Speaker 7: One neighbor says, the distinct looking Tesla was parked on
- 14:59Speaker 7: this for some time in front of the house that
- 15:02Speaker 7: was searched, and later in two other.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Spots on the street.
- 15:06Speaker 7: The vehicle stood out because it has a Texas plate
- 15:08Speaker 7: and a big dent.
- 15:10Speaker 1: From my friends at WABC seven to Dave Mack joining
- 15:13Speaker 1: me Crime Stories investigative reporter, isn't it true, Dave, that
- 15:18Speaker 1: she was so decomposed she had to be forensically identified?
- 15:26Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
- 15:27Speaker 5: Absolutely correct?
- 15:28Speaker 9: Nancy?
- 15:28Speaker 1: Okay again, jo just gott Morgan, I'm just a felony prosecutor.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Could you explain what that means. I mean, I'm guessing
- 15:37Speaker 1: that means that they didn't open the trunk and look
- 15:40Speaker 1: at her and go, that's the little missing girl celested.
- 15:44Speaker 1: She had to be forensically identified.
- 15:47Speaker 5: Yeah, to give you to kind of frame this out
- 15:49Speaker 5: a little bit, Nancy, her Celeste measurements her weight specifically
- 15:55Speaker 5: in life you ready for this was one hundred and
- 15:57Speaker 5: twenty pounds. The remains that they have are somewhere in
- 16:01Speaker 5: the neighborhood of seventy So, no, they could not have
- 16:04Speaker 5: been able to actually visualize her and say, yeah, this
- 16:08Speaker 5: is Celesti, this is who we've been looking for. No,
- 16:11Speaker 5: they're going to go at this. I do understand that
- 16:14Speaker 5: she has specific tattoos and they were able to use that.
- 16:19Speaker 5: I can only assume her family's involved in that place.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Okay, specifically one tattoo, a tiny tattoo on the inside
- 16:27Speaker 1: of her finger. It says sh sh and you could
- 16:31Speaker 1: only see it if that finger was held up there
- 16:36Speaker 1: it is, there's a sh. Now. I just saw another
- 16:40Speaker 1: tattoo and I'd like to see it again. That was
- 16:42Speaker 1: the other tattoo on her finger, so mom and Dad
- 16:45Speaker 1: couldn't see her tattoos. David, Wow, David, David the musician,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and it's on her ring finger. Hello, David the musician,
- 17:02Speaker 1: and it's on a ring affair. But you know what's interesting?
- 17:04Speaker 1: Can see Joe Scott please the tattoo? What a co ink?
- 17:11Speaker 1: You think that he David? Some people look at his
- 17:15Speaker 1: name and it looks like D four VD and he
- 17:21Speaker 1: pronounces it David. He has the same tattoo on his
- 17:27Speaker 1: index finger. What a coincidence? Isn't that odd? Joe Scott Morgan?
- 17:32Speaker 5: Yeah, what else is odd?
- 17:33Speaker 1: Is that a child?
- 17:34Speaker 5: A child this age has tattoos, all right, So just
- 17:38Speaker 5: let that sink in just for a second. The fact
- 17:41Speaker 5: that she does have this tattoo, though, was certainly beneficial
- 17:46Speaker 5: as far as getting her remains identified. And listen, you
- 17:51Speaker 5: can't just go based upon the tattoo. There are other
- 17:54Speaker 5: elements here.
- 17:55Speaker 1: We have something that Scott. We were just showing her
- 17:59Speaker 1: with the ring on her ring finger and that's on
- 18:01Speaker 1: her left hand. This when she goes missing. She's thirteen
- 18:07Speaker 1: years old. Listen to this.
- 18:10Speaker 7: The thirteen year old became friends with singer David on
- 18:12Speaker 7: social media and ran away to Hollywood to see the
- 18:15Speaker 7: rising star. Celestia was returned home to Lake elson Or
- 18:18Speaker 7: by police. Celestie remained in school for a month. Then
- 18:21Speaker 7: in May, David picks Celeste up in a tesla to
- 18:24Speaker 7: go to the movies and she has been gone ever since.
- 18:28Speaker 10: How long you go with this?
- 18:30Speaker 11: I'd I just found out yesterday who it was, but
- 18:32Speaker 11: she's been missing since.
- 18:34Speaker 12: I taught her.
- 18:34Speaker 10: So when I taught her, she met this dude on
- 18:37Speaker 10: social media. He was a rapper in La, became a
- 18:40Speaker 10: gun her. She ran away from home. She was gone
- 18:42Speaker 10: for like a month. The cops founder in Hollywood brought
- 18:45Speaker 10: her back to our school. She came back to our school,
- 18:48Speaker 10: kind of told people this story.
- 18:50Speaker 11: She disappeared again in May of that year.
- 18:53Speaker 3: They have playing.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Twenty four that is from at uzer dot Lol. Nine
- 18:58Speaker 1: to five.
- 18:59Speaker 2: One young girl from Los Angeles started dating an older
- 19:02Speaker 2: boy in the music industry that she met online. They
- 19:05Speaker 2: would occasionally be seen together on his Twitch and Instagram.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Over the next few years, his fame grew and he
- 19:11Speaker 2: desperately tried to hide their relationship from the public eye.
- 19:15Speaker 2: But one night, so Less vanished from her home and
- 19:17Speaker 2: her parents grew worried.
- 19:20Speaker 1: So she disappears at age thirteen. Family reports her missing,
- 19:25Speaker 1: Police find her bring her back. Then David aka D
- 19:31Speaker 1: four VD. That's what it looks like. Picture up to
- 19:35Speaker 1: take her to a movie and she's never seen again.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Last scene wearing gray pants, black sweater and Hello Kitty sandals. Okay,
- 19:45Speaker 1: learning more from an unidentified teacher.
- 19:50Speaker 11: Listen, hold up, that's heard in my classroo at all
- 19:54Speaker 11: in front of this poster here. Okay, hold up another one,
- 20:00Speaker 11: because I got a picture on TMZ of this other
- 20:04Speaker 11: kid exchanging stuff with the rapper who we allegedly did
- 20:08Speaker 11: this stuff one out a second because he's also in
- 20:13Speaker 11: my classroom.
- 20:14Speaker 10: That's when her friends told me what happened, and it
- 20:16Speaker 10: was this rapper that they were.
- 20:17Speaker 11: Like blackmailing him all of this stuff.
- 20:20Speaker 10: And then I found out yesterday that she's now dead
- 20:24Speaker 10: in that rapper's car, cut into pieces.
- 20:27Speaker 11: You want to know how they met? I feel like
- 20:29Speaker 11: I just said it social media.
- 20:32Speaker 1: This is from at user dot l nine five one
- 20:35Speaker 1: on TikTok. The point I believe that teacher was making
- 20:39Speaker 1: was a good point. He was telling the class that
- 20:42Speaker 1: these two met on social media. Crime stories with Nancy
- 20:51Speaker 1: Grace if she'll saw Us Rodriguez joining US senior news
- 20:58Speaker 1: reporter Us Son. I don't know I would call it
- 21:00Speaker 1: dating because when a girl is thirteen, she's underage. So
- 21:05Speaker 1: I don't know that I would call it dating. That's right,
- 21:08Speaker 1: Ann See.
- 21:09Speaker 3: So let's Reeves was thirteen years old when she reportedly
- 21:13Speaker 3: met this singer named David. It's unclear how they met
- 21:18Speaker 3: all that. It's all that's being reported that they met online.
- 21:21Speaker 3: It's even unclear she attended high school. She was reportedly
- 21:24Speaker 3: a student at Lakeland Village Middle School and Lake Elsinore.
- 21:30Speaker 3: She was described as a runaway eighteen who left her
- 21:32Speaker 3: parents home in the past but would eventually return, and
- 21:36Speaker 3: up until May twenty twenty four, she ran away again Israel,
- 21:41Speaker 3: but this time.
- 21:42Speaker 5: She would not return.
- 21:43Speaker 1: You know what you really are something Israel. She's described
- 21:48Speaker 1: as a runaway teen. Okay, so what she's disposable? A
- 21:53Speaker 1: runaway teen? What else about her? Did she sing in
- 21:58Speaker 1: the church choir? Did she crochet? Was she in four ah?
- 22:03Speaker 1: Did she love? Was she a homebody? Did she love music?
- 22:07Speaker 1: But all I'm getting is she was a runaway teen.
- 22:10Speaker 1: You know what, mosses Castillo, He's just repeating what he
- 22:14Speaker 1: has learned from his sources. Okay, it's not Israel sala
- 22:18Speaker 1: Frodriguez fault. That's the way this girl has been portrayed,
- 22:22Speaker 1: This girl who first goes missing at age thirteen and
- 22:27Speaker 1: ends up with a multi platinum singer much older than her.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Let me see that lunch meet video again. Who posts
- 22:39Speaker 1: a TikTok where there? Me? If I see her talk
- 22:45Speaker 1: with other dudes? What a coincidence? That's from at Brian
- 22:49Speaker 1: on TikTok? But he is reposting something that David the
- 22:57Speaker 1: musician posted originally. Me if I see her talk with
- 23:03Speaker 1: other dudes. And the only way she's described in the
- 23:06Speaker 1: media is a runaway teen like okay, translation, don't care.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I care, And I think every other parent cares that
- 23:17Speaker 1: has a teen girl. It's at thirteen. She could be
- 23:20Speaker 1: in the seventh grade for all I know. It's just
- 23:23Speaker 1: an Absolutely the way she's described is it's not right.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Absolutely right.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And see lude acophone a child comes to mind.
- 23:31Speaker 4: You mentioned the word sectary, right, No, it's lude acapona
- 23:33Speaker 4: child here in California, and anybody under the age of
- 23:35Speaker 4: fourteen is a child. And this is horrible, horrible, And
- 23:39Speaker 4: that's the attitude that law enforcement has nowadays.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Well, they're just incorrigible.
- 23:44Speaker 4: Runaway teens and so that's why they just don't even
- 23:47Speaker 4: pay attention to them until now they find them dead.
- 23:49Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I'm sick about it. The way
- 23:51Speaker 1: that she is described as expendable. My little girl, Lucy
- 23:57Speaker 1: weighs about ninety pounds. She's said there would be hell
- 24:03Speaker 1: to pay if she went missing, God forbid, because I
- 24:06Speaker 1: would die. And people just describe her as a runaway
- 24:10Speaker 1: teen like, yeah, no problem. She's in a car trunk, dead,
- 24:15Speaker 1: dismembered in a plastic bag decomposing. But she was just
- 24:19Speaker 1: a runaway. Okay, we know a lot about her, But
- 24:22Speaker 1: what do we know about this guy who is not
- 24:25Speaker 1: charged with anything at this juncture? And I guess you
- 24:29Speaker 1: put it together that this car, this Tesla from Texas
- 24:35Speaker 1: is registered to him, the music star, the millionaire. There
- 24:40Speaker 1: it is in the impound lot. Our friends at ABC
- 24:42Speaker 1: seven got this for us. Who is he?
- 24:45Speaker 7: The twenty year old became a YouTube star, playing his
- 24:48Speaker 7: favorite game, Fortnite and commentary. His channel was defunded due
- 24:52Speaker 7: to his use of popular music he used on his
- 24:55Speaker 7: videos that he did not license. He says his mother
- 24:58Speaker 7: told him to make his own music for his video.
- 25:00Speaker 7: He downloaded a free music app for his phone, and
- 25:02Speaker 7: his music career was born. Using his own music in
- 25:05Speaker 7: his gaming montages, Burke begins uploading his tracks to SoundCloud.
- 25:10Speaker 7: His music gains more attention than his gaming montages. Self
- 25:13Speaker 7: produced song Romantic Homicide goes viral, leading to a record deal.
- 25:18Speaker 7: Romantic Homicide is certified multi platinum.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Has anybody actually looked at the lyrics a romantic homicide?
- 25:25Speaker 1: Let's put it up on the screen so we can
- 25:26Speaker 1: all take a look. Okay, we definitely need to shrink
- 25:29Speaker 1: on this. In the back of my mind, I killed
- 25:32Speaker 1: you and I didn't even regret it. I can't believe
- 25:35Speaker 1: I said it, but it's true. Do I love you?
- 25:38Speaker 6: Know?
- 25:39Speaker 1: I hate you in the back of my mind. You
- 25:42Speaker 1: died and I didn't even cry. No, not a single tear.
- 25:46Speaker 1: And I'm sick of waiting patiently for someone that won't
- 25:49Speaker 1: even arrive. Okay, don to methany, what does the term
- 25:55Speaker 1: Freudian slip mean?
- 25:57Speaker 8: This was not a crime of passion, but the idea
- 26:00Speaker 8: that he says in the lyrics you didn't arrive. There
- 26:06Speaker 8: is an implied accusation that she hasn't shown up for him.
- 26:10Speaker 8: The thirteen year old little girl who ran away from
- 26:13Speaker 8: home was lost for a year shows up in all
- 26:16Speaker 8: these social media posts. Her whole appearance changes. She's wearing
- 26:22Speaker 8: kind of a scarf on her head.
- 26:23Speaker 1: That mimics his.
- 26:25Speaker 8: She's starting to get.
- 26:26Speaker 1: The Cassie Ventura look.
- 26:27Speaker 8: One of the images you showed she has, yes, that
- 26:30Speaker 8: one beautiful long lashes, a diamond ring. The fact that
- 26:34Speaker 8: she has, you know, the shhh tattooed. No adult should
- 26:40Speaker 8: tell a thirteen year old to keep a secret. That's
- 26:43Speaker 8: just inappropriate. So these lyrics. It tells me that I'm
- 26:48Speaker 8: going to put this along the side the fact that
- 26:50Speaker 8: she disappeared for a year from her family, which tells
- 26:54Speaker 8: me that he had increasing control over her.
- 26:58Speaker 1: This little girl disappear for the first time when she
- 27:02Speaker 1: is just thirteen years old, after she goes to meet
- 27:06Speaker 1: musician who has gone multi platinum and they start talking online.
- 27:12Speaker 1: She goes to a concert, somehow hooks up with him
- 27:15Speaker 1: and they start talking online. That's the working theory. He's
- 27:18Speaker 1: not charged with anything, and I'm very curious about that decision.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Let's hear it all from the horse's mouth.
- 27:25Speaker 13: Hello, my name is David pronounced David, not d four VD.
- 27:29Speaker 13: I'm from Queens, New York. I'm in Houston now. I
- 27:32Speaker 13: am a gamer. I love video games. I want to
- 27:35Speaker 13: be a professional gamer before music, That's actually what pushed
- 27:38Speaker 13: me into music was getting copyright strikes on YouTube and
- 27:41Speaker 13: I kind of just use my own music at my
- 27:44Speaker 13: mom's houzes after my mom told me to. I was
- 27:47Speaker 13: crying to her about it.
- 27:48Speaker 1: That from Genius YouTube channel.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Another year past, and the teen was still missing. Neighbors
- 27:54Speaker 2: reported a foul odor coming from an abandoned vehicle. Police
- 27:58Speaker 2: arrive on scene, only to be met with a horrific
- 28:00Speaker 2: discovery that would shock the Los Angeles community.
- 28:05Speaker 1: A lot of you may not be familiar with his music.
- 28:08Speaker 1: It's not wrap, it's more like R and B. I've
- 28:12Speaker 1: listened to a lot of it, specifically Romantic Homicide. He's
- 28:17Speaker 1: also ventured into clothing. I'd like you to see some
- 28:22Speaker 1: of the shirts that he David has offered online for sale.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, wait, are those blood spattered shirts?
- 28:33Speaker 1: It looks like is it in a car? I don't
- 28:35Speaker 1: know where it is, but that's him with blood spattered shirts.
- 28:39Speaker 1: To Joanna Nevis, veteran criminal defense attorney, Joanna, you are
- 28:48Speaker 1: fully versed in guilty conscience. Sometimes the cleanup is worse
- 28:53Speaker 1: than the crime, the cover up, so to speak. Why
- 28:56Speaker 1: would he suddenly remove shots of him with bloody T shirts?
- 29:01Speaker 1: It looks like it said, even in a car. Why
- 29:04Speaker 1: why would he do that suddenly, you, Nancy.
- 29:07Speaker 6: So many people, especially celebrities, are represented by what we
- 29:13Speaker 6: say like public relations representatives who will advise them to
- 29:18Speaker 6: do certain things so that they kind of attack things
- 29:22Speaker 6: before the damage happened. And you know, this is somebody
- 29:25Speaker 6: who was in the spotlight. He's already being attacked about
- 29:28Speaker 6: his lyrics. He's already being painted as the person who
- 29:32Speaker 6: is you know, likely responsible for this because he had
- 29:34Speaker 6: a relationship with this person, and he is likely being
- 29:38Speaker 6: told that he should take these images down. Although these
- 29:41Speaker 6: images are a part of his overall brand, we're talking
- 29:44Speaker 6: about creative expression. This person has a movie gothic brand,
- 29:49Speaker 6: but his lyrics are artistic expression. It's not necessarily a concession.
- 29:54Speaker 1: And him, I can't wait. I can't wait for you
- 29:59Speaker 1: to try that on the jury. This was his artistic expression.
- 30:03Speaker 1: And you know another thing I've noticed to Moses Castillo
- 30:07Speaker 1: joining us private investigator with the Ordulian Law Group, Moses,
- 30:11Speaker 1: have you noticed in nearly every photo of the star
- 30:16Speaker 1: known as David with little girl Celeste, he has recovering
- 30:21Speaker 1: her face. Have you noticed that? Yes, that's what you know.
- 30:24Speaker 4: As an investigator, I would definitely want to talk to
- 30:26Speaker 4: you about all these lyrics and all these things that
- 30:28Speaker 4: came before her body was discovered.
- 30:31Speaker 1: I would argue he's having her cover her face because
- 30:33Speaker 1: she's under age. What more do we know about this guy?
- 30:36Speaker 7: Erck has released several singles, including Here with Me. They
- 30:40Speaker 7: charted on the Billboard Hot One hundred. He has recorded
- 30:43Speaker 7: two EPs and last April released his first full album, Withered,
- 30:47Speaker 7: with the Withered world tours starting last month and canceled
- 30:51Speaker 7: the day the body in his Tesla was identified as
- 30:54Speaker 7: celast Is Deluxe album is shelved. His record label Interscope
- 30:59Speaker 7: suspended the album release and pause all promotional activities related
- 31:03Speaker 7: to David. His endorsement deals are canceled. Crime Stories with
- 31:14Speaker 7: Nancy Grace, what do I have this correct?
- 31:20Speaker 1: To Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter that after Celeste
- 31:25Speaker 1: Butcher remains are found in his tesla trunk, he continues
- 31:31Speaker 1: touring for several weeks until the outcry online it becomes
- 31:38Speaker 1: too noisy to ignore.
- 31:40Speaker 9: Unbelievable, Nancy, that bloody remains are found in a vehicle
- 31:46Speaker 9: registered to you, Yet you continue on this world tour
- 31:52Speaker 9: like nothing was found in your car, and only stop
- 31:56Speaker 9: when the remains are identified as.
- 31:59Speaker 12: A missing child from Lake Elsinor He went on about
- 32:04Speaker 12: his daily business after a bloody, chopped up, decomposed course
- 32:11Speaker 12: was found in his abandoned guard. Nancy, think about all
- 32:14Speaker 12: of this and it goes beyond the pale of what
- 32:17Speaker 12: any human being.
- 32:19Speaker 9: Ever would do to another human being you.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Know, Dave Matt Apparently you and I are the only
- 32:23Speaker 1: ones concerned because as of this moment when we go
- 32:27Speaker 1: to air tonight, there have been no charges at all. Okay,
- 32:33Speaker 1: he's in a relationship with her, she's a runaway times two.
- 32:40Speaker 1: She's been gone over a year with him. I bet
- 32:43Speaker 1: if we timed those photos would find out how long
- 32:46Speaker 1: she's been with him, and now she's dead. It can
- 32:50Speaker 1: only be talked by one thing to Israel South Rodriguez
- 32:54Speaker 1: joining us us son. Isn't it true that there are
- 32:59Speaker 1: pregnant see allegations is real? That's right, Nancy.
- 33:03Speaker 3: There are rumors and unconfirmed reports online that claims so
- 33:06Speaker 3: Less was apparently pregnant at the time of her death.
- 33:10Speaker 3: David Rowe, in the common section of one of his
- 33:12Speaker 3: discord live streams, quote me and at the leader user
- 33:17Speaker 3: got a kid on the way again. These reports are
- 33:20Speaker 3: unconfirmed by Los Angeles investigators who have kept the details
- 33:24Speaker 3: of the case close to the chest.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Just Scott Morgan, help me out. You're the death investigator.
- 33:28Speaker 1: You're the one that has handled literally thousands of death
- 33:32Speaker 1: investigations with her body thirteen when she goes missing, thirteen
- 33:40Speaker 1: and we're talking about her partially dismembered body in a
- 33:45Speaker 1: bag in his tesla. Okay, how do we figure out
- 33:53Speaker 1: if she was pregnant?
- 33:55Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, Well that's the key, isn't it? And if
- 33:59Speaker 5: they can if and again, Nancy, this is a big if,
- 34:02Speaker 5: because I keep hearing these snatches of information about how
- 34:06Speaker 5: badly she was decomposed. If they can get into a
- 34:10Speaker 5: reproductive system and appreciate the interior of her uterus, there's
- 34:16Speaker 5: going to be clues there relative to either a current
- 34:21Speaker 5: pregnancy or if she had given birth at some point
- 34:25Speaker 5: in time. Remember, she's been in hiding for some time.
- 34:27Speaker 5: I think my question would be, was there anything in
- 34:31Speaker 5: the house that gave us an indication that there may
- 34:35Speaker 5: have been some evidence relative to this? How long had
- 34:38Speaker 5: she survived? Is there any evidence that there might be
- 34:42Speaker 5: a child somewhere out there? And all of this is
- 34:46Speaker 5: going to be compromised.
- 34:47Speaker 1: What can you tell me about infant remains?
- 34:51Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a report that is out there, and again
- 34:54Speaker 5: we haven't been able to validate this yet, but there
- 34:56Speaker 5: is actually a report that there will remains found in
- 35:01Speaker 5: the Hollywood Hills area and that they were an infant.
- 35:05Speaker 5: So if that is true, Nancy, If that is true,
- 35:08Speaker 5: and if the La County corner has those remains, which
- 35:12Speaker 5: is where they would have wound up, guess what we've
- 35:14Speaker 5: got here. We have got a source for DNA information.
- 35:18Speaker 1: You know another thing, Jo Scott Morgan. Two ideas. One
- 35:21Speaker 1: DNA comparison between the infants remains that were reportedly found
- 35:27Speaker 1: in the area and whoever got rid of her body.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Ain't that smart? Because no, it's connected geographically to David's place.
- 35:38Speaker 1: He lives in Hollywood Hills. Isn't that right? Israel? He
- 35:42Speaker 1: lives in Hollywood, Hollywood Hills, and this car is found
- 35:44Speaker 1: in Hollywood Hills.
- 35:45Speaker 3: Yes, Nancy, there's a course that David actually rented a
- 35:49Speaker 3: home in the Hollywood Hills area at one point.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Maybe whoever discarded her body did think to like part
- 35:55Speaker 1: the car a few streets over. That said, Joe Scott,
- 36:01Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when you don't know a horse,
- 36:04Speaker 1: look at his track record. If the body was hidden
- 36:11Speaker 1: just really stretching it near his home, then if infant
- 36:15Speaker 1: remains are found near the vehicle, that would mean they
- 36:19Speaker 1: were also near his home. That said, Two ideas. One
- 36:24Speaker 1: DNA comparison between the infant remains, if they exist and
- 36:29Speaker 1: her remains to find out if she's the mother. Even
- 36:32Speaker 1: if the body's decomposed, we can still get some sort
- 36:35Speaker 1: of a DNA match for Pet's sake. If you can
- 36:37Speaker 1: crack cold cases fifty years old with DNA, certainly we
- 36:40Speaker 1: can get DNA from her. And also, Scott, what about
- 36:45Speaker 1: her hormones, her pregnancy hormones. Would they be able to
- 36:50Speaker 1: be discerned even though her body had been perhaps shot.
- 36:57Speaker 5: Yeah, that's going to be a long shot, Nancy, given
- 36:59Speaker 5: the advance state of decomposition. If what they're saying, And
- 37:02Speaker 5: remember what you said earlier about La our friends out
- 37:05Speaker 5: in LA during this time period when her remains, when
- 37:09Speaker 5: this tessel was found, they were experiencing an incredibly oppressive
- 37:13Speaker 5: heat wave during this period of time. And I don't
- 37:16Speaker 5: want to go too over the top here, but let's
- 37:18Speaker 5: just say you talk about these remains inside of a
- 37:22Speaker 5: vehicle in LA during the summertime during a heat wave.
- 37:26Speaker 5: Heat speeds things up. And when I talk about speeds
- 37:29Speaker 5: things up, I'm talking about the degradation of the tissues.
- 37:32Speaker 5: They're going to be broken down to the point where
- 37:35Speaker 5: I don't know, and Nancy were still to this point,
- 37:38Speaker 5: there are rumors circling around. They're calling this, they're treating
- 37:41Speaker 5: this as a homicide. We still don't have a cause
- 37:46Speaker 5: of death with her, and the fact that they don't
- 37:49Speaker 5: have a cause of death yet gives us an indication
- 37:51Speaker 5: of the condition of the body. This is really hard
- 37:53Speaker 5: to parse through. But Nancy, I got another bombshell for
- 37:56Speaker 5: you here. Guess what. There's a silent witness to all
- 37:59Speaker 5: of this, and that's that tesla. Remember back in Idaho
- 38:03Speaker 5: one of the things we were looking for when those
- 38:04Speaker 5: four kids were murdered up there. They were asking the
- 38:07Speaker 5: day after, were there any tesla's around? Were there any
- 38:10Speaker 5: teslas around?
- 38:12Speaker 9: Well?
- 38:12Speaker 5: Why why would they ask that? Because these teslas come
- 38:16Speaker 5: equipped with a century system. If you've paid for it,
- 38:19Speaker 5: this thing has got at least six cameras on the outside.
- 38:21Speaker 5: There's biometrics on the inside. Nancy, we're going to get
- 38:24Speaker 5: time stamps with this. We might even get a visual
- 38:27Speaker 5: idea of who was opening that frunk and putting this
- 38:31Speaker 5: poor girl's remains in it.
- 38:33Speaker 7: An unreleased demo song titled Celeste Demo and Finn leaked online,
- 38:38Speaker 7: resurfaced after Celeste Reevas was found dead in a tesla
- 38:41Speaker 7: registered to the singer the Celeste demo. Some details have
- 38:45Speaker 7: led to public speculation matching tattoos. Both David and Celestreevas
- 38:50Speaker 7: had a tattoo on their right index fingers.
- 38:53Speaker 1: In hindsight, the title Romantic Homicide may not have been
- 38:58Speaker 1: a good choice for the artist known as David. It
- 39:02Speaker 1: looks like DFOURVD. It's David. I've listened to a lot
- 39:07Speaker 1: of his work. It's pretty impressive. But when I know
- 39:14Speaker 1: a little girl has found butchered in his Tesla trun
- 39:17Speaker 1: not so much. Take a listen to David promoing his
- 39:23Speaker 1: song Romantic Homicide.
- 39:25Speaker 13: So when inspired the hook in the back of my
- 39:27Speaker 13: mind you died, it's kind of like the storytelling aspect
- 39:30Speaker 13: of the lyrics that came before it in a way
- 39:32Speaker 13: that it builds up to the big moment where she
- 39:34Speaker 13: died in the back of my mind. I didn't kill
- 39:36Speaker 13: her physically. In the back of my mind, she died
- 39:40Speaker 13: and I didn't even cry, not a single tear.
- 39:42Speaker 1: That is from the Genius YouTube channel. Interesting that he
- 39:46Speaker 1: continued to perform many many appearances after Celeste is found
- 39:55Speaker 1: in his trunk, much less from the time that she
- 39:59Speaker 1: was murdered. Now, okay, look at this livestream video of
- 40:04Speaker 1: David and Celeste. Oh yo, what wait wait, look at
- 40:09Speaker 1: answer that one?
- 40:10Speaker 3: That so mean if you don't ask one.
- 40:13Speaker 13: It was good big family experiment. Oh thank you, Mitch
- 40:18Speaker 13: Mitchell Kanzio.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Mass.
- 40:24Speaker 13: Can we delete all vis and then as soon as
- 40:26Speaker 13: the stream ends the stream too.
- 40:28Speaker 1: That's what our friends at the Daily Mail. Isn't it true?
- 40:31Speaker 1: Straight out to Israel Salath Rodriguez that when all of
- 40:35Speaker 1: this was unfolding, the star known as David asked for
- 40:41Speaker 1: certain videos to be deleted.
- 40:43Speaker 3: That's right, Nancy. There's one that that clip you just
- 40:46Speaker 3: showed from. It appears to be a discord live stream
- 40:49Speaker 3: where he is pictured alongside this young girl wearing a
- 40:55Speaker 3: hoodie and thick glasses, and he appears to tell the
- 40:59Speaker 3: live stream can this video be deleted?
- 41:02Speaker 1: Guys? I want to look at these Celeste lyrics that
- 41:05Speaker 1: have just it's never been released, but it has leaked. Okay,
- 41:10Speaker 1: take a look at this. O Celeste, the girl with
- 41:13Speaker 1: my name tattooed on her chest, smell it on my
- 41:16Speaker 1: clothes like cigarettes. I hear her voice each time I
- 41:19Speaker 1: take a breath. I'm obsessed, Oh Celeste, afraid you'll only
- 41:25Speaker 1: love me when undressed, but you look so damn gorgeous
- 41:29Speaker 1: in that dress. Missing you so much makes me depressed,
- 41:33Speaker 1: but I digress, baby, Baby, I love you, so this
- 41:38Speaker 1: is what it's like to not need weed to get
- 41:40Speaker 1: me high. I love it when you hold me when
- 41:43Speaker 1: you cry, just because, just because be my Valentine, I
- 41:49Speaker 1: want to make Cupid Sue is sidle. These are the
- 41:52Speaker 1: kind of thoughts that cross my mind just because, just
- 41:55Speaker 1: because I love you so much, Darling, I'd love to
- 41:58Speaker 1: ease your mind, but you only open up when you
- 42:00Speaker 1: get high. If I had the money, I would buyas
- 42:04Speaker 1: time just to get by, just to stay high. Okay,
- 42:08Speaker 1: I don't have to be her renown psychoanalyst to figure
- 42:10Speaker 1: this out. Dr Bethany Marshall, I think I know why
- 42:13Speaker 1: he didn't release it because she's underage.
- 42:15Speaker 8: Absolutely, which is perhaps one of the reasons he hides
- 42:18Speaker 8: her face in all of those photos. Or on the
- 42:20Speaker 8: other hand, she's gorgeous and he's afraid that other men
- 42:24Speaker 8: will be.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Attracted to her.
- 42:25Speaker 8: I want to point out that homicide is the leading
- 42:28Speaker 8: cause of death amongst pregnant women, since we're talking about
- 42:31Speaker 8: her possibly being pregnant. But in terms of these lyrics
- 42:36Speaker 8: you only talk to me when you're high. It sounds
- 42:40Speaker 8: like an abuser trying to extract all these secrets from
- 42:44Speaker 8: an underage girl, and then when she's high, he finally
- 42:48Speaker 8: feels like he has access to her innermost thoughts, the
- 42:52Speaker 8: idea that you only love me when.
- 42:54Speaker 1: You're intimate with me.
- 42:56Speaker 8: I don't have those lyrics in front of me right now.
- 42:58Speaker 1: To me, this is a man.
- 42:59Speaker 8: Who's stuck in rejection that no matter whether the victim
- 43:04Speaker 8: is living under his roof, adoring him, covering her face,
- 43:08Speaker 8: getting high with him, putting tattoos on her body, it
- 43:13Speaker 8: doesn't matter what she does. He's still stuck in a
- 43:16Speaker 8: state of rejection.
- 43:18Speaker 7: Human remains, wrapped in plastic, placed in a bag and
- 43:21Speaker 7: hidden in the front trunk of the tesla are severely
- 43:24Speaker 7: decomposed and partially dismembered. Polisse The person was a female
- 43:29Speaker 7: five foot too weighing seventy one pounds, with wavy black hair,
- 43:33Speaker 7: and was wearing a tube top in black leggings. The
- 43:36Speaker 7: person appears deceased inside the vehicle for an extended period
- 43:40Speaker 7: of time before being found.
- 43:42Speaker 1: Reminder no one has been charged in the disappearance and
- 43:48Speaker 1: then murder the dismemberment of this little girl, Celeste Celeste Rivus.
- 43:54Speaker 1: No one has been charged, no one has been named.
- 43:58Speaker 1: A person of interests me to ask why not. If
- 44:03Speaker 1: you know or think you know anything about Celeste's disappearance,
- 44:08Speaker 1: please dial two one three four eight six six' eight
- 44:13Speaker 1: nine zero repeat two one three four eight six six
- 44:18Speaker 1: eight nine. Zero we remember An american, Hero Detective Mark,
- 44:24Speaker 1: Baker Northern York County Police, department shot in the line
- 44:29Speaker 1: of duty after twenty four years IN la law. Enforcement
- 44:33Speaker 1: leaves behind for grieving. Children american Hero Detective Mark. Baker
- 44:41Speaker 1: Nancy gray signing off good wise, man
- 45:01Speaker 8: Assass