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Lawyering Up: Elon Musk's Twitter Takeover & Henry Cavill Leaves The Witcher · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Things nerdy yeah and hopefully you're a patron which
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before the main crowd comes in or if you're in America Wednesday instead of
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Thursday oh yeah speaking of which Matt it's your mom's birthday today I'm aware
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not tomorrow I know I know today already today mhm thank you though yeah you're
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welcome cuz that's how it does work though it's her birthday cuz tomorrow
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wouldn't be her birthday it would be for Matt would be but for her it's not it's
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not really about Matt at this point too yeah if I wake up tomorrow morning and I
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go happy birthday she's gone to bed and it's going to be too late yeah and
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that's it she'll never speak to you again that's exactly right cuz so happy
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birthday Matt's mom yeah thank you appreciate it so I've been doing a lot
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reading up a lot of watching a lot of law stuff lately it's been quite
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intriguing this is the second week in a row that you've mentioned some some
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legal research that you've been doing now we do have some kind of old segment
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where you review court cases and we've got are you sure it's a law but Luke is
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there something that you want to tell us are you becoming a
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lawyer honestly I think I would make a great lawyer if it wasn't for the whole
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thing where you had to like study and pass the bar and all that stuff I'd be a
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lawyer tomorrow did you watch She-Hulk attorney at law and kind of get bitten
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by the bug so speak y I've been practicing my twerking what's uh so I
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don't understand why that's relevant and I don't want to know what what's what's like
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Jack that you guys play from
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Japan oh right yeah yeah so if I've learned anything from that it's that if
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if your client is innocent that's all well and good but you've got to you've
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got to find someone who's going down yeah do you watch legal eagle on uh
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YouTube Luke no you should eagle head eag he doesn't have an
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eagle head now he has a human head he's a lawyer with a normal head and uh he um
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he's the guy I said he reviews he well he he lately he does a lot of stuff
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about um Trump m cuz it's in the you know and then stuff with Twitter and E
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and stuff which maybe we'll talk about oh yes I've seen but he's funny he's
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very funny and he he did in the past has done like kind of reactions to he watch
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scenes from Phoenix W and just react as a lawyer to what's happening and it's
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very funny cuz he's like well that's that's not you can't do that just
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introduce evidence in the middle of this is not a documentary surprise yeah
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that's it's funny yeah no I have SE his up but no I've been watching like a
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little little ones like little talk with Mike and stuff who were sort of like
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they just he covered like the amber the Johnny Depp and Amber herd face and then
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he just Dre Daryl Brooks and MH yeah I don't know I find it quite interesting
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um Amber herd has deleted her Twitter more on that
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later okay I I saw it said Elon Musk took over Twitter and then suddenly
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Amber Heard was deleted that's certainly what all the headlines said but when you
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read the articles there's no way he would do that doesn't it certainly seems
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like her ex-boyfriend took over and suddenly she didn't have an account
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anymore but as far as I can tell that's not it yeah that's look if if it had
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been it would have been her leaving not him deleting it's not just her it's like
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rats leaving a sinking [ __ ] at this point well I think a lot of people
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starting to get upset cuz now they're talking about like the Blue Tick you
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just pay for it well there's more to be upset cost can we get a blue tick on
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ours $ 12250 a month $8 what eight bucks
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$8 yeah so so so he took over the other
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day we don't tweet anything no he officially took over he came in and now
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he's he's come up with all this crazy stuff where and then apparently first $ 46
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billion 46 billion back yeah somebody first he said 20 and everyone was like
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[ __ ] off and he was like how about oh no and Stephen King was like I'm not paying
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20 bucks and then Elon Musk replied to Stephen King said how about $8 and then
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the announcement was now it's $8 a month I love that and people were saying how
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well I can just pay $8 month and say I'm Elon Musk for example and I I actually
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tweeted for the first time in [ __ ] ages and I said that's crazy you must be
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mistaken surely you would pay the $8 and then you would still have to be verified
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the way that you what I was it's the same verification process but just with
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a behind a pay apparently not the I mean and again the problem we have at the
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moment is that so they they've fired literally half of the staff at Twitter
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internationally like so why we did say last week it was all a joke he what he's
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now cleaning 50% of the company he's fired and so now there's all these
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documents leaking and people complaining and people saying that no no no anyone
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can pay for the tick and you can say you're whoever the [ __ ] you want but
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then well then why would anyone pay for the tick if that's the case like how can
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we believe anything coming out of the company right now because he's fired
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everybody like like it's just all it's just a mess I never quite understood
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that how do you get your tick and does the tick just mean you are a famous
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person you apply for it you can apply I've applied before I got rejected cuz
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nobody trying to impersonate me I see it's basically theck is we can change
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that Mt if you want I can try and impersonate you if you can prove it you
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I don't know how it is these days it used to be this was quite a while ago
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because I have I have a fair few followers on Twitter and so I was like
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I'll try and get verified and uh and I got knocked back cuz they said now
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there's no you don't need to be and I was like fine that's fair enough I don't
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you got the not famous enough letter but the yeah exactly right dear I know other
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people like as an know from from people that I've interacted with that that they
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were able to get it because they showed there was a precedent for people
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impersonating them other other magician magicians oh no magicians are the worst
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Matt they will try to impersonate you and they will try to S you in half don't
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don't take them too lightly but now apparently you just have
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to pay eight bucks and you can say you're anyone you want okay great who do
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we want to say we are because change very quickly I'd like to say um Steven
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King and then come on and say actually I'd like it to be four bucks I mean if
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Steven King's just the guy who gets to decide I think probably a lot of what
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we're hearing is not true because people have been fired they're upset they're
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posting fake [ __ ] like I just don't and and also elon's a [ __ ] troll there's
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no way this can last right there there there's no way this business can last
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these people who are being fired aren't probably they're probably hearing things
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as they're leaving and they don't know the full story about anything they've
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fired all apparently fired all of the content moderation people all of
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them it's a [ __ ] who needs them because we got an election next no one
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should be blocked post anything does that mean Trump can come back on uh he
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hasn't de no no he said he he's not going to make a decision about that
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until they settle exactly what's happening with all that stuff they're
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firing everyone and ruining all their lives but we can't make a decision where
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one person can go back apparently not no and he wants to gut their infrastructure
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costs like their their kind of you know hardware and all that kind of stuff he
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wants to cut the costs by $1 billion annually okay and I I mean that sounds
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like a lot of money but Twitter is quite large and I can't see how that's just
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going to be something I can't say I can't see them just having Superfluous
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servers and things that don't un maybe this is all part of the plan right so
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he's master all this stuff everyone's like [ __ ] you off Twitter don't need
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those servers anymore then do we true genius wait a minute wait a minute wait
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a minute shrink your audience is his game plan get if you get rid of all the
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users you don't need the servers and if all those users are just people like us
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paying $8 a month for Blue Tick yeah instead of thousands of people not
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paying a goddamn Cent then maybe it is a viable business plan hear me out his
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financial advice lawyer Luke I'm I'm I'm excited his purchased it he's now he's L
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because of all the action finul voice loyal Luke I love the phrasing of that
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too he's got he's got users leaving he's going to reduce cost and then he's going
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to try and sell it in a year cuz he's going to go look we're bringing all this
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extra avue with us sell he's going to flip it he's doing minor renovations to it
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we're taking out these walls y yeah um but what's he going to flip it what did
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he pay for this 4 billion never paid for anything it's going to get more than $40
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billion for it I think him saying he'd spend $40 billion on it was initially a
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joke cuz only he in the world has4 billion to spend on anything he tried so
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hard to get out of this I can't take anything he says seriously at the moment
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exactly like he's just [ __ ] around well he might be I don't know what he's
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doing I mean for all we know this whole thing is just to get back at Amber herd
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like I wouldn't put that past him he's just trying to drive this [ __ ]
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company to the ground everybody off yeah yeah he just needs
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to it's a bit like Kanye just stop oh God don't I talk about stop I mean look
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maybe maybe somehow this will work like I'm not I don't know how I don't know
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you know I don't I don't know maybe this will work maybe Twitter will become the
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best place on the internet somehow look get rid of all the bots in the spam and
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then we'll talk and the users like at the moment driving away the users which
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is not what we want we want you to drive away the crap that's on there well I'll
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tell you what what do you people who's driving away I guess technically are the
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people who care about having a check mark which are like celebrities and
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stuff is he actually driving away everyday people who'll pay so may like
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maybe he doesn't give a [ __ ] about all these people
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complaining you know what if you maybe if you look at like the the celebrities
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that are on there that got a Blue Tick is that actually bringing Twitter Revenue
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no I wouldn't think they don't pay for it they don't pay for it they're not
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bring so Twitter's not getting any but the average user who's going to pay
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money is going to give Twitter money I don't know I don't know you're
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the expert on these Financial yeah you're the lawyer and also I'm not even
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on Twitter so who the [ __ ] knows he's going to flip it I'm telling
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you it's going to be on the market in two years and maybe will'll buy it yeah
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patreon.com multiple nasm if you want to buy that's our our
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top tier just above send us to space is buy us Twitter give us enough money to
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buy Twitter $40 billion um speaking of doing a house up
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and selling it um I watched The Watcher this week oh and I started it day before
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yesterday and finished it last night um very good um in fact I got one episode
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from the end last night was like no I'm not coming on and having two weeks in a
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row us having to not say whether or not we like the entire series um I like this
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very much I have a feeling I'll forget it even exists very very soon sure I I
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don't think it's going to be memorable but it was certainly an enjoyable watch
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um it was a great mystery up until I realized that it was based on a true
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story that they never solved yes I was about to say it's based on an actual
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Cold Case that if you look into it is actually terrifying yeah more more
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terrifying than the show is in a way too yeah because it's real or and and it was
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not as you know over the top and kind of in depth as the what happens in the show
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but and the family actually never moved into the house they were so terrified by
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the letters that they got and then they actually subletter to somebody else who
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moved in and got one of the letters but the letter was still to the original
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owner who didn't live there and never had yeah
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so so yeah it's I mean I think the ride was worth it to me
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Heron caval doesn't think so the Watcher yeah we're talking about the
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Watcher AR we yeah Henry Henry caval is no longer The Watcher yeah he's not Henry caval
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will not appear in The Watcher you heard that here first fol he
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will continue to not appear so I should so I should watch it is what you're
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saying I think think so yeah no I think so in fact I I started watching it then
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I thought oh this was probably something I could have watched with h as well you
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know it's pretty it's it's definitely something that I think everyone can get
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something out of yeah I'm going to give it a watch next week then this is not I
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guess it's a little bit of a spoiler but it's all such a big mish mash of random
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threads that intertwine and and thing and one of the things I really liked in
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it was he he gets introduced to somebody by the the detective that he hires you
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know that kind of crazy guy who used to live in the house yes and he meets with
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him and then he finds out he sees him in a TV commercial mhm and he thinks [ __ ]
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it that guy is an actor so he chases hunts him down and confronts him and the
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guy goes yeah I am an actor you never you never asked me what I did for a
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living no I also lived in your house also used to live in your house I was
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like that's [ __ ] awesome yeah but but see that confused me as well because
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that's something that is indicative of this entire show which is I'm never sure
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what Clues are Clues and which ones are red herrings even after they seemingly
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have sold them it's the same thing with only murders in the building you don't
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know what and that's when the second season I wasn't looking out for as Clues
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as such cuz in the first season you don't actually get introduced to the
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murderer until quite some way into the show so there's no point in trying to
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focus on what might be clue might not because you don't know now I haven't
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seen all of season 2 uh just because of reasons of only murders so no spoilers
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please that's a good that's a good show I think someone got murdered I think the
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Watcher was I I it felt like what they
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were try to create create this sense that like every episode you were like oh
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what the [ __ ] man and it just really even up to the to the end I was just
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like what the [ __ ] never know we'll
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never know kind of yeah but not in a not
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in a annoying way no for me anyway no correct
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but I don't want to quote Dan Brown of all [ __ ] writers but Dan Brown has
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this thing if you make a promise to the audience you have to keep it so if you
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if you I mean Hitchcock said it I guess when he said if I see a gun in Act One
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someone better get shot in act two right yeah sure um and I feel this show didn't
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live up to that it dangled a lot of carrots that didn't pay off into
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something like who who was that [ __ ] guy who was in his kitchen oh we know
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he's been in the house we know he's dodgy don't know whether or not he's the
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guy we've been told about but we do know he's dodgy and guess what we're just not
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going to explain it okay fine that it's a real life story and it's a cold case
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but that's a fictitious character you wrote for the show so you can at least
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finish writing that there's also so it's a bit of a spoiler but then I'm trying
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to think of a way there's no spoilers there's no ending it didn't end all
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right so the cop gave the detective the evidence about that or did he yeah or
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did he and yeah do they know each other was it and like cuz when they confronted
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him about it he genuinely like it seemed like had nothing to do with any of this once they
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wanted you not minute did he or did he not yeah yeah yeah it's there's a lot of
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that I will watch it next week and I'll let you know no look you're I just
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realized you're going to hate this because this is just like a Christopher
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Nolan movie where he's going to have to decide what he thinks is real or not
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what what happened what is true and also I go to be entertained you tell me what
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I meant to think this is a little bit of a spoiler to but not really because it's
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not but Matt did you like me interpret so at the very end Bobby Carnaval is
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back standing outside the house watching the house because he's now just obsessed
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with it because there's something about this house that just makes people
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obsessed with it and this kind of it's mystery within mystery within mystery
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and now he's just as obsessed too right yeah that's not what the internet thinks
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the internet thinks definitively at the last episode and the last scene they
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showed you that he was The Watcher all along and I'm like no no he's not it's
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absolutely not it's not possible that he was he didn't know about the house years
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decades ago yeah which is why I thought it wasn't possible that it was that
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young kid either because I'm like well hold on hasn't this been going on for
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decades this kid's 19 yeah yeah something you you take off from your parents or
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grandparents I love that too where he's like he's like you put a camera in the
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room I'm like no I couldn't have been him and he's like no I did put a camera
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in the room yeah cuz I didn't trust you but that's the other thing I did send
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that video and I was like oh my God this show yeah but that's but that's the
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thing that confused me is that they would set up things like Mysteries and
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then solve them immediately like oh who who put the camera there oh it was me by
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the way sorry about that and it's like oh okay and then they would set up things they
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just and then it's like well that is a mystery that's a mystery yeah
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yeah like that's still a mystery yeah so
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anyway good show yeah it was a good show a bit like lost in a way yeah but I think more
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satisfying cuz it wasn't wasn't like Seasons Seasons long and I kind of got a
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feeling going into it that it was going to end this way kind of not it was never
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going to wrap up in a neat little bow cuz it just wasn't that kind of vibe
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yeah but I don't need a bow but I do need to feel that was worth the ride and
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I I I think this did land but only just I cuz I think I think you're supposed to
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feel like they feel the characters yes which I think and I think that worked me
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f yeah yeah yeah I would agree with that there was one that I watched earlier
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this year called from uh which at the time I watch because I thought it was nope but it
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wasn't um full at a word yeah but it
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also didn't explain anything by the finale and it's fiction so no
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excuses sure but it's okay if Christopher Nolan
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does it yes well he's great when he does anybody else though I I don't know I I
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reject that because I actually think Christopher Nolan knows and if you know
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Christopher Nolan and you trust him you can feel you know enough I do not trust
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him I would not be asking him around to help me move yeah I get
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you I think when Christopher Nolan writes it there is a there is a thread
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that goes all the way through it's just that sometimes you lose it the first
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watch and then maybe you'll pick it up eventually or or maybe you never will
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but it is there I think whereas with this I'm not sure it is there yeah or
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say Damon lindeloff who I love his writing but I don't trust him right
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because he could be just making it up as he goes because he just makes [ __ ] up
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cuz that's literally what he did for and he admits it yeah yeah correct well
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wasn't a case of they just kept wanting more seasons so it's well I guess we
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better kept right I believe so but I also would L have
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been better if they stopped after four seasons probably and I think there
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there's a definite end in there it's like Buffy there's a definite end and
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then there's more show yeah cuz they were like also you will continue also
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they admitted if you watch the DVD commentary Lindelof and Abrams admitted
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that just for the pilot they just threw in Mysteries they had no idea they
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because they didn't know if it was going to become a so they didn't make up
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answers they were just like wouldn't it be cool if what the [ __ ] Shake yeah the
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tree Shake there's smoke there's a panda what's the panda about yeah I never
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watched it oh it was very good yeah last very good was did they end up they were
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already dead or something no no not necessarily I mean if you want to think
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that sure but no not ask Christopher Nolan what he think yeah I'd sent you
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guys that video it popped up on again just every now then YouTube reminds me
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of stuff you know that one that's that a British comedian that does the that skit
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that's the the moment in a movie when you stop paying attention stop trying
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figing out what it's about yeah yeah so the plane crashed no it didn't well at
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least it not yet yeah it's so that is so
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funny because it is so accurate yeah absolutely yeah Matt last week you said
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this was lynchian it is literally lynchian it's just not David lynchian it's Jennifer
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lynchian oh is that a relative of his it's his daughter are you [ __ ]
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kidding me I can't believe I didn't look that up okay she didn't direct every
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episode I think she did three including the finale okay that explains it explains a
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lot well I hope I hope she does more then cuz I enjoyed this yeah same ah so
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the the David Lynch for a new generation perhaps I think out there I think she's
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still older than us too like just before before we start painting her as this
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like spokeswoman for I say that he's dead but maybe just because his his way
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of doing stuff is R out there hers maybe raining in for I think the last thing
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David Lynch did was Interview a monkey on YouTube so it's a little bit out
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there I mean my favorite thing he's done is still get a cow to Spook for Laura
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D's um yeah Oscar nomination please consider Laura D
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amazing guy is just [ __ ] incredible to me yeah he's great and then his
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weather reports his daily weather reports it's sunny here in the San Fernando Valley
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the number of the day he does the number of the day number of the day who was
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Elmo like Sesame Street yeah what a guy um I watched a really good movie before
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we just go on for Mysteries and there's no point in me harboring on but um it's
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for [ __ ] sake I didn't write down what it was called must have been good it was
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excellent hold on hold on gu Pier I'm leaving this in what's it's called The
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Infernal machine oh okay it's called The Infernal machine and it's came out this year and
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it's about an author reclusive novelist who starts getting harassed by a fan who
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seems to know a little too much about
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him oh all right and Luke in the end
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they tell you what happened they tell you what the ending is but I still I
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still don't think this is a movie for me I just do you know what you know what
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Luke should watch Luke should watch Columbo because in colbo they at the
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beginning happen and then you just watch colbo figure it out the whole thing is
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dramatic irony while you watch him know who it is and then slowly get that
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person to confess yeah it's been a long time since I
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watched Columbo oh I recommend it often yes I don't you you often
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recommend it or you recommend watching it often or both both both both yeah I
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will get to it I've only watched one recently and it was only because it was
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when I worked out worked out I think you told me that the pilot was directed by
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Steven Spielberg like preed Spielberg yeah one about the two the two authors
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yeah and it's very good I I like it very much yeah it's got one of one of my
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favorite catching him out in a lie kind of conversation that's a lot of Columbo
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is but yeah it's got a really good yeah it's it's well written that one mat I've
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told you this before but I'll I'll remind you there's a there's a movie a
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German movie from the 80s in English it's called Uh wings of Desire it's by
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your so here's the list of reasons you should watch this
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it's vendor movie right it does Nick Cave as himself right oh right it was
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remade by Nicholas Cage in the '90s but it was terrible and it was called wait
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Nick Cave is in the German one yes Nick Cave a singer is in the German movie as
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himself right that's interesting but also I actually didn't know that Peter
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folk is in it as himself playing Peter
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folk shooting an episode of lbo in Germany wait and he interacts there's no
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way you've told me these details before he interacts right with the lead
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character who is played by the guy who does this in the Hitler videos so if
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there was a movie made just for you Matt for
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that the only director I've told the go [ __ ] himself directed this movie yes yes
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your friend Vim vendors former friend former colleague is odd
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that I haven't seen this now you should watch it all of these things combined it
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think is a little bizarre when I the one time I met Vim venders and was very
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careful a not to tell him to go [ __ ] himself or B not to tell him that I knew
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you um I asked him about this and I told him it was my favorite movie and he said
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thanks it's my favorite mov too I said oh there you go oh I'm like out of the
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ones you've made or it's just your [ __ ] favorite or is that just if he's
25:56
kid response over yeah it's my favorite why is this guy talking to me no it was
26:00
in a press junk and he knew why I was talking to him that reminds me of opth
26:04
who always talk about how all music is [ __ ] except theirs in interviews and I
26:08
can't tell if they're being funny or not damnation by opth is my go-to car music
26:14
if I'm alone and I have a long drive like if I have to drive out when I drove
26:17
out to see you the other week yeah I had the damnation album on it's my just go
26:22
to yeah right I I always opth is funny in a way because I have friends who
26:29
who are so into metal that they're not into like even if metal bands with clean
26:32
singing they're like it's a bit gay what is this cold but when it's opth doing
26:38
like an acoustic album they're like oh it's good the [ __ ] I know like yeah it
26:42
is but like so weird that you just yeah
26:45
okay yeah this is easy listening yeah I mean you're you're right but like I'm so
26:52
confused about how this is something you like but other stuff is not whatever
26:56
yeah well it's sort of like Billy pan he thinks his music is the greatest never
27:01
made a three star album look never no never never and if he doesn't get a
27:05
three star6 one that's it just got our fault it's our fault one word for yougan
27:11
one word Zan the whole industry's just got it out for him that's how come's [ __ ] I saw
27:18
a headline today that said that he's come out and said that Kirt cabain stole
27:21
his sound and I was I'm not even I'm not even going to read this article I'm not
27:25
even going to do it uh it's got to be clickbait somewhere
27:31
new I'm going to get back I didn't mind Smashing Pumpkins I loveash [ __ ]
27:36
loved them great it's been a long time since I've listened to them it just
27:38
popped into my head in fact it's not fair for me to say good they were I I
27:41
loved them no same for for a period but I don't know if I'd say they were
27:46
like it's like you know I guess they say it's like when they say don't meet your
27:51
Idols I think they probably were talking about Billy specifically Billy G or
27:56
people like that where it's like even the people in Smashing Pumpkins hate Billy
28:01
Corgan well cuz he was fine until I started hearing his interviews and like
28:05
especially the last time I really heard was when he was saying like I've never
28:08
made a three star album and all that that was and so like really I thought
28:12
you were just a nice guy I like to play music he's just a he walked off stage in
28:16
Australia because um he was doing a solo show and people kept saying tonight
28:20
tonight and he was like if you ask for one more pumpkin song I'm walking off
28:24
stage there's that video I've talked about this before where he it's a it's a
28:28
pumpkins show but they're doing the new album and people keep yelling out old
28:31
songs and he goes we're not playing the the old songs we're playing the new
28:34
songs if you don't like it you can [ __ ] off and then some guy yells something
28:37
and he's like come on come up on stage and he pulls literally pulls the guy up
28:40
on stage he says what did you say and the guy goes I like your old albums
28:43
better and then Billy cgan just like what what where is your [ __ ] album
28:47
that you made mate [ __ ] off security kick this guy out it's the [ __ ] is wrong
28:51
with you I like if it depends on how you f cuz I know Jeb a little while ago they
28:58
were s of they were doing two shows back to back one was there here's our first
29:01
album yeah and then the next show was here's our new Factory would I Fear
29:06
Factory is not the same scale as any of they're at least they're at least on the Jeb level
29:12
Matt okay fine but Fe Factory used to do two shows for a while where they would
29:18
do the new album and then they would do dem manufacture which is the album that
29:22
made them which I think is a great way to do it the famous in quotes the famous
29:26
that they are was from that album which like it everyone gets to go here
29:30
and if you want to go you get tickets to that one if you just want to come see us
29:33
play you get tickets to this one when I was working at the Sid ENT when the Sid
29:37
encent used to exist I saw a lot of artists I wouldn't
29:40
have normally paid to go and see right like Robbie Williams for example yeah
29:47
yeah I didn't I didn't pay to see Kanye and it was at the cityy cricket ground
29:50
but uh it's just cuz our Rich friend Lord Stelly took me uh but um that's
29:55
right I saw Stewart right one of the
30:00
best gigs ever right so doesn't have a support band right what he does have is
30:06
a screen on stage that shows a live feed of him in the dressing room ironing his
30:12
shirt doing stretches warming up to come out right then he comes out on stage and
30:19
goes Fu these tickets were expensive I'm not going to play any song you haven't
30:24
heard this is basically greatest hits of Rod St it in order right here's my
30:30
earliest single and then just went through yeah it was amazing yeah mind
30:34
you he was very old and during the instrumentals of each song he would just
30:38
leave the stage possibly for a drink of water or a shot of oygen they cut to him
30:43
on the big screen take but I think the Ben should realize
30:49
when they get to a certain point that's what they should just be doing like no
30:52
one wants to hear your new new stuff even it's tough because you can do are
30:58
exceptions right if you look at a band like Lincoln Park who who arguably
31:03
changed on every album and I think were always good and not everybody liked all
31:08
the stuff they did but I think they always they were always good M and and
31:12
they did all right but some bands it just doesn't work for like and so yeah
31:18
it's a tossup between do you just do the same [ __ ] every time cuz that's what
31:22
people want or do you you know well you got to follow the follow your heart well
31:27
do you that's the thing I mean I get it too because I I saw the
31:30
Cure in like 2003 or somewhere like that and then I realized it's been a long
31:36
long time since the Cure wrote the songs I'm Into You know what I mean like they
31:41
were 20 years old they've got 20 years worth of albums since then they didn't
31:45
play anything from standing on the they've got some good songs recent like
31:50
more recent songs cuz every now and then I'll you say more recent when are you
31:53
talking about yeah yeah that's fair I don't still at least years ago like they
31:59
had a new album come out at some point and then you know what it could have
32:01
been that long ago but I remember I put it on and it was mostly forgettable but
32:04
there was one song that I was just kind of like yeah no this captures yeah them
32:08
I put it to you that that was around 2002 2003 and that's 20 years ago yeah
32:15
yeah fair enough I think I remember they when they play they were doing the
32:17
festival tours out here I remember think I think it's from Brisbane for livid or
32:21
something they should just have always sounded like burn from the crow burn is
32:26
and we been one of their albums I know yeah and no other song they sing sounds
32:32
like that there's one or two that that kind of have that
32:37
same uh vibe to it but there was just something about the layers I know how
32:42
they have to be able to do it if you're going to try and mix it up and try be a
32:47
new band change your band name be someone new yeah I don't know if you
32:51
guys are into like 70s era folk rock but um I was watching some Neil Young live
32:57
listen to that I was listening to some Neil Young you guys are aware of Neil
33:02
Young right of course you've heard of Neil Young um but I was watching some
33:06
really old clips and there's a there was a a con live gig where he goes U oh
33:11
now's that time of the night where I piss you all off by playing songs you've
33:14
never heard because I've only just written them so sorry about that but
33:17
I've just written these two new songs and then he plays old man and heart of
33:20
gold which end up becoming his iconic songs for the next like 50 years but
33:25
there was a time where he was like sorry about this guy I know you just want to
33:28
hear the songs from couple years ago yeah you want to hear the big hits well
33:33
yeah I don't some some people can do it and some people can't The Beatles were
33:35
good at it m writing songs they were yeah well even changing Across The Years
33:42
also the Beatles broke up when they were 29 doesn't that make you feel [ __ ]
33:47
old and like you've never accomplished anything yeah I don't like hearing about
33:51
thatu up when they were 29
33:55
yeah but then again is depressing Ed as a covers band
34:00
so we haven't even done that yet no no look we should talk about some uh
34:07
some of the stuff in here and Luke you uh you attempted a segue or or it seemed
34:11
like you were attempting a segue I may have got confus between the Watcher and
34:14
The Witcher yes yeah no that's a good Oh I thought you were making a joke I yeah
34:18
I thought he was trying to like tie in I tried to play it off as a joke after but
34:22
actually no I just got confused and I was like that's quite clever and then uh
34:25
we never followed up on it but yeah hry gav uh he's not only is he not in the
34:30
Watcher he's also not going to be in The Witcher so I've got I've got two
34:34
questions season four number one why and number two why do they think
34:41
we're going to keep watching this this is the the amount of fun we made of him
34:45
before this show began when we just heard he been cast to be proved wrong
34:50
Square against it only to have to eat our [ __ ] words when he was geralt and
34:56
he made this show what it is I'm not saying like the big thing is
35:01
I think it's not just that that he's leaving they're not doing anymore
35:04
they're replacing him and I don't I don't think Li H is bad choice he's
35:08
going to be bad it just seems It's and I said after season 4 it's not after
35:12
season 4 it's in season 4 he's not like basically Henry Cav's done now because
35:16
they've already filmed season three they finished season 3 that's coming out soon
35:19
and yeah it's just a a so I saw I saw of a video talking about this where they
35:25
said that they they suspect it's something to do with the fact that Henry
35:29
caval had said previously that there was a plan to do seven seasons and he'd be
35:33
up for all of it as long as it's you know all all based on the source
35:37
material and it was respectful the books he's he loves it he loves it the games
35:41
the books all that stuff he's into it and then there was an interview fairly
35:45
recently with the creative team behind at the showrunner and all that kind of
35:49
stuff and they said no we don't really like the books and the games and so now
35:54
the theory is well that's probably why he's leaving m because they've they've
35:58
decided to go in a different direction you're being waved at you're
36:03
being very rude by not hold back you are wearing a mandre t-shirt
36:08
and there's a mandre news there's mandre news if you can believe it I don't know
36:12
what that means we'll get we'll come back to it but yeah you think they would
36:16
have sat down and gone like oh you don't like this Direction look we don't want
36:19
to lose our star let's make him happy I I don't think it's that I think it's
36:23
more so he got pulled away for Superman money well that's that's happened too we
36:27
about that last week right he's going to do Superman some more so maybe and I
36:31
think and maybe and I think cuz I saw news today as well and so I've got I got
36:36
a theory that he got pulled away for Superman money James gun has taken over
36:39
so he's going hey I have you more in and James gun and The Rock aren't entirely
36:46
happy cuz with each wants yeah the creative differences happening at the moment the
36:53
rock wants it to the Future to be more Black adom based of course he does come
36:59
on rather than Superman so but I think from the sounds
37:05
of it though this is just what I think is that James gun's taken over he's gone
37:09
hey I want Superman to be front center I need you be here more here's some money
37:14
get whip that mustach time you're not going to have time to film The Witcher
37:18
anymore yeah right could so number one a
37:22
lot of number one one day a photo will surface of him in the Superman suit with
37:27
the mustache and and that'll be a day where i'm truly happy cuz I just I want
37:32
to see that more than anything else um two he has promised that Superman will
37:38
not be a miserable [ __ ] in the following films he didn't he didn't say those
37:45
words I bet he would a Superman filled with joy I think is what he said um and
37:51
that would be nice because while while I want my Batman dark and brooding my
37:55
Superman I want of not murder Henry you didn't listen to us you're a small
38:02
screen star stay away from the big spoke in the movies yeah they'll Eat You Alive
38:07
in Hollywood yeah I don't know I just
38:14
thought he was doing I thought he was doing something of his best work in The
38:17
Witcher and absolutely yeah Witcher Witcher was good uh the rest of the cast
38:21
is staying oh well actually sorry the the rest of the cast are expected to
38:26
stay however I did read in an article that uh that's not confirmed either
38:31
technically so cuz there only maybe you can probably get a it
38:37
sounds crazy but you can probably get away with replacing him but if you start
38:41
replacing too much of the cast come back go Who Am what what's happening like who
38:46
I think it's fairly fair to say that that they're not as easy to lure away as
38:52
Henry caval like The Witcher is still probably a big you know and if you
38:58
years you know Anya shotra and um go play Siri I forgotten her name but
39:03
but like Yen Siri all those guys like this is still a big vehicle for them so
39:10
I'd be surprised if they left but yeah some of the others maybe I
39:15
don't know was that that guy who played uh uh why can't I think of his name um
39:22
you know the old Witcher his mentor oh yeah the one that should be Mark haml
39:26
correct that guy he's quite famous isn't he yes he is in Denmark I think he is
39:32
proba better stuff to do yeah he might have better stuff to do he's in great
39:35
stuff and in fact if you like him and you like mads melson which I know you do
39:40
then you should watch an old Danish movie from the '90s called Pusher which
39:43
is directed by Nicholas finding reffin where both of those dudes are in there
39:48
yeah and I like him too mhm great
39:52
movie Nick why and in fact there's there's three there's three
39:58
push Pusher one two and three he made Pusher one and then wanted to make some
40:02
other movie which failed and then he was in such debt for that he's like [ __ ] it
40:06
I'll do Pusher two but like I just want to make this perfectly clear I'm only
40:10
doing this for the cash made Pusher two but it was even better than Pusher one
40:13
right and then got into some other debt and he was like fine I'll make push a
40:18
three but just to make this perfectly clear again only the money going to
40:21
phone this in don't give a [ __ ] made an even better movie like they just got
40:25
better they're an excellent trilog but maybe he should just stop getting
40:30
into debt maybe he should keep getting into debt we're reaping
40:35
reies yeah loan him some money should we stay on The Witcher before we move on
40:41
cuz there's some Witcher news which I think this is interesting oh yeah yeah
40:45
yeah so there it's going to be a Witcher this the original Witcher game evidently
40:49
there's a remake happening I think this is good news because the first Witcher
40:55
game is it's a great game but my God it is complicated yes it's it's very it's
41:00
way less accessible than two and three two two is a little bit clunkier than
41:05
three three they kind of refined it all but I think if you were a fan of three
41:09
and you went back to play one you'd be like the [ __ ] because like in three it
41:13
does help to read up on the monsters you're fighting make sure you've got the
41:16
right oils but it's not a necessity in the first one if you didn't go in
41:19
prepared with the right oils and preparation you were going to be
41:22
murdered yeah and you only know the right oils because you have to go and
41:26
look at the go to the market find a book seller find one who's got a book about
41:30
drowners like and then read the book and it'll tell you the oils and then you
41:34
know and then you know it's not going to be written in your journal or anything
41:38
you just have to look at the book like so yeah if they were to go back and
41:41
remake the wit one but yeah just with like the the framework of wicher three I
41:46
think would be great to go play that story yeah cuz I really enjoyed Witcher
41:51
one but I think going back to it would be difficult now just because like yeah
41:56
it requires you to to do a lot of work that you wouldn't have to do for and
42:00
also put out there more people played The Witcher 3 than played The Witcher
42:03
one and two combined yeah yeah Witcher 2 was very good but probably I guess it's
42:09
been a while I remember watching you play Witcher 2 Matt and thinking this
42:12
looks excellent I just don't think I've Got The Moxy to get into this yeah it's
42:19
I mean there're a lot three is even more but again three three is refined cuz
42:24
everything is a bit simpler way like they learn they learned what's worth
42:30
making the player do and what isn't kind of like you do like you do read the
42:35
books to find out what oil are go for Monster but then it's just you you know
42:38
that information you can just very easily go look up and find it it's not I
42:42
have to go read through this book again or try and remember it's here's what you
42:46
need and you've got yeah cuz in the first one you've got your different
42:50
swords and you got to switch between the swords but then you've got fighting
42:53
styles within the swords and you have to choose the fighting style for the it's
42:56
just lot of stuff to juggle so anyway I mean maybe they'll
43:02
keep all that who knows but I doubt it they'll probably simplify
43:05
it I'm I'm hoping for simplification cuz that way I could then get the game throw
43:09
it on an easy and play it and just enjoy the story cuz I'm at that age in life
43:13
where I play on easy now oh yeah which one also has something the other games
43:18
don't have and that is collectible cards when you bang all the women you bone
43:23
every time you sleep with a woman in the game get a little colletible card in
43:27
your inventory with a picture of a with a tits out even at the time that was
43:32
something that was being questioned at the time when that game originally came
43:35
out all those years ago it was a good selling point but yeah there were people
43:40
saying like should this be that's uh that's one up from having a notch on
43:44
your bed there was a guy I went to college with that had this um he used to
43:47
wear all these beads on these bead necklaces and wrists and stuff no no no
43:51
it was just beads just wooden beads but my friend said to him once why do you
43:55
have all those beads and he's like just without even looking up just didn't even
43:58
look up from his computer just goes every time I [ __ ] your mom she gives me one
44:05
bead I thought you were going to say he had a like one every time he bangs
44:10
chicken he adds one if that was the case I'm going to go well that's [ __ ] I
44:14
know that that's a great story your version is actually funnier than what I
44:19
thought was he was going to say yes um before we go on I'll just very very
44:23
quickly mandrian pet mandrian the Dutch abstract painter um okay has had a
44:29
painting hanging in the Museum of Modern Art in New York for 75 years and this
44:35
week they realized that um it's been hanging upside
44:39
down really yeah somebody saw an old book and was like hang on I think this
44:45
upside down see this is why I don't get uh and I'm looking at I'm looking at CU
44:49
I got link to the article and I'm watch it makes no
44:54
difference at all I mean is this just electrical
44:59
tape it's just electrical tape put on a board that's not art I
45:05
mean yeah I don't know does it make you feel
45:11
something makes me feel like people are getting scammed incorrect correct I like it's
45:18
got this slider it's like yeah all right I mean yeah I mean yeah I I don't I
45:24
don't get it either but what's the
45:27
and and but it does oh yeah it's a
45:34
donkey now makes sense but I love that that I people are
45:39
probably arguing that oh like that is much better it's like no you didn't [ __ ]
45:43
notice F you didn't know either it doesn't make a difference yeah
45:49
yeah that's funny yeah this why I'm not allowed to go to Art Museums
45:55
anymore oh I'm allowed will not go with me I I stopped going to when we had
46:01
friends in uni who would have um exhibitions I stopped going after there
46:07
was an incident where somebody did some performance art and I had the giggles
46:13
and I'm I'm not going to say anymore because I want to I don't want to like
46:16
yeah make fun everybody you're into what you're into but I I and and our friend
46:21
Carl my our mutual friend Carl thought this was hilarious and I backed into a
46:26
painting and knocked it off the wall and uh and I had to leave in shame so I was
46:31
like you know what yeah oh you kned you knocked up I knocked somebody's painting
46:35
yeah because there was okay so somebody did a song from The Phantom of the
46:41
Opera Matt I was there he was kneeling on the floor right and he had a mask on
46:45
and he was slapping his own knees yeah yeah and I knocked a painting off the
46:49
wall cuz I was I was trying to back away why don't I remember the painting
46:54
getting knocked off I was [ __ ] there well and so I I after that I said I
47:01
should probably not go to these things that is so funny I cannot I cannot not
47:06
giggle yeah fair fair and I people like that so go for it but it's just gu notop
47:12
for me at that exact
47:16
same Gallery exhibition there was a a piece of video art and I I always
47:23
approach video art with a certain amount of skepticism and and and one of the
47:28
main reasons is because at this particular Gallery I said uh it was a it
47:34
was a man in his underwear in a drain right that was the video art was just
47:39
continual of him and I said to one of the your uni friends artists people who
47:45
was who was there with us um why is this art because I'm a
47:51
videographer professionally and if I was going to do this I'd shoot it nicely
47:57
well lit and with the camera on a tripod instead of handheld and she said well
48:04
that's why but that wouldn't be art and
48:08
I'm like so the whole reason that this is Art is because it's [ __ ] is that is
48:15
that what we're saying I um so what the
48:20
the ultimate for me right uh I want to name any names or anybody but you guys
48:25
will probably know what I'm talking about we had mutual friends who went to
48:29
University and then one night we're at home and uh another friend a friend of
48:33
one of our friends who was also at University came over and she was
48:35
freaking out because they had an assessment that was due the next day and
48:39
she hadn't done anything they had to do some art some do some art right oh and
48:45
they were sitting around chatting and then in the end what they did they just
48:49
put her in the bath ped a bunch of milk in and this lady this girl was in the
48:54
bath crying with milk and it was just they just like pull it out of their ass
49:00
the night before and then the next day at the exhibition everyone was like oh I
49:04
get yeah it's really really deep and and then yeah and then she was waffling
49:08
about what me I was like this is
49:12
horeshit yeah yeah I mean I guess good on you but like it just like it just
49:18
made me think I'm just so skeptical about it all now like like I guess it doesn't mean
49:24
everybody does that but I was like this is is not see I'm I'm I'm a fens on this
49:31
because I appreciate classical art and the talent that goes into creating that
49:37
if you're a sculptor and you can sculpt something that looks like a human being
49:41
that's art if you're a painter and you can paint something that looks like a
49:43
human being that's art but I also also
49:47
kind of appreciate the the the rebels
49:51
who go well is this [ __ ] art and do something abstract as well I get that
49:56
because that's eliciting a reaction but sitting in a bath of milk I don't see
50:01
how that are well what not only that sitting in a bath of milk and I know you
50:05
were just like what the [ __ ] can I do what do we have we have a bath and some
50:08
milk yeah like not like it's not like you know when cuz I I like David Lynch
50:13
right and I I I'm willing to accept that David Lynch when he if he was to film a
50:19
girl in a b full of milk yeah there's something there for some reason like
50:24
there's a reason that he felt like that was a he didn't just but would you think
50:27
the same if you knew that he just phoned it in the night before I mean that would
50:32
that would disappoint me because I think he doesn't operate that way you know
50:37
what I mean like seems like there's more going on I don't necessarily understand
50:42
what he means but he means something like you know what I mean Mark romanic
50:47
who directed The Closer video and a whole lot of other CS that's a good video yeah great
50:53
video um there's an going tell me he just pulled all that out of there ask no no no but
50:58
there's no but I love that [ __ ] and all his Clips are great but he said once
51:02
that he said if a broken chair can contain more resonant
51:08
potential meaning than an intact chair than break the chair yeah okay and I
51:15
thought that's that's that made sense that sounded good like in terms of art
51:19
like if cuz the other thing is too that story I've just told about the the bath
51:22
thing there might be people out there who are like no no no that's that is Art
51:25
because it came up you know she was struggling she came up with this idea
51:28
kind of thing and it's like you know what maybe maybe I'm wrong it's just I'm
51:32
looking at it the wrong way literally upside yeah Luke what do you
51:38
think ah look it's if if you like it you like it if you don't you don't that's I
51:45
think that's that's the main thing really isn't it and and you have to
51:51
understand some people may not agree with you and that's fine but don't think
51:54
that you're better than CU you think you understand some person's art I don't get
51:59
it no not for me keep me away from this stuff I'll knock paintings Off the
52:05
Wall I like old art like what that's of things yeah Fine
52:11
Art yeah yeah it's fine it's fine yeah I guess I'll look at some fine art while I
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drink some fine wine this this see
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electrical tape on a board that's not art
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it's been hanging for 75 years which means it's old does that not convince
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you I mean I look I went to the to a uh van go exhibit right and I think some of
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Van Go stuff is good and some of other stuff I'm like oh yeah like a lot of
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paintings of some flowers yeah you're can like I I see why this is the famous
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one and no one ever talks about this 10 over here like yeah yeah when we were
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over in Europe a couple years ago we went went to like the museum that's for
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him some of it was quite nice and others yeah yeah but some people like it a lot some
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people like it I don't get why it's so expensive just make a printer just make
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a copy you're done hang it up I know maybe buy the nft
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of it all right then send me a photo sorry didn't mean to derail the show and
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I I should have put a trigger warning on that yeah you did I think I think that
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picture is the night we're talking about unless you can tell me that that was not
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it because that person wasn't there no no definitely could be yeah
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y also for a trigger warning no I didn't think so of all people I would not care
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I I knew you wouldn't care but then you reacted like you did and so I thought oh
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[ __ ] have I cuz normally I I wouldn't do this to Luke put it that way no no I
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reacted because and if either of you do it to me you're [ __ ] dead because I
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was like oh telling me I should shut up about something I should read what this
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message is and then my face ID wouldn't work and then I was [ __ ] around the
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phone and I'm like I'm ruining the show right now and then I'm going to open
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this and it's just just going to be irrelevant cuz I thought and I thought
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maybe you going to say oh was the you know the person in the tub you were
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talking about this person or what anyway whatever oh I'm I'm guessing it
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was you got it you got it
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Go of course it [ __ ] was yeah yeah yeah as soon as I started talking about
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it I was like you know what I guess I could be wrong I mean we're not experts
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it's in the eye of the beholder yeah is it though cuz I've got a problem with that as well
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right look uh I want to point out before we go
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that Luke you and any listeners who are interested who have not got access to do
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so on a switch or a PC will'll be able to play Return to Monkey Island on your
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Xbox via Game Pass or your PC via game pass on November 10th which is I I knew
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this was going to happen as I said a couple we I didn't think it was going to
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be so quickly yeah it's only been out what a month look at first I was like oh
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man but then I was like you know what I don't you played it and you enjoyed it I
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Ron Gilbert money for the games that I pirated when I was a kid although and
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then I I thought that and then I remember actually no I gave him the
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money have a certificate yeah I have a certificate that says I'm exempt and in
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fact I paid him off too and then forgot my login and never got the game and then
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bought the game again when it came out on Steam so i' I've actually paid for
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that wor person for login you know this how many email addresses have you lost
55:22
over the years and lost accounts to I'm more careful
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now no no you know what I'm bad at now you know what and you know what it's not
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my fault because I [ __ ] hate this right hello Internet listen listen to me
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if I don't have an account and I think I do and I type in an email address and a
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password tell me that doesn't exist don't just set me up an account with
55:46
that because I've already got an account and I've put in my wrong email address
55:51
so now I've got two accounts and depending on what device I'm on I might
55:55
forget ande in the other one and you'll let me into that too so now I'm buying
55:59
things on two eBay accounts just tell me that that's not the address I put in
56:03
there's two things one is they don't want to do that they want you to buy the
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thing they don't care whether you get annoyed that you have two accounts
56:09
there's that but then the other thing is too with the often they won't tell you
56:16
if if you try and log in they'll say something's not right they won't tell
56:20
you if it's the username or the password and that's intentional because otherwise
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people can just hit with email address and figure out who does and does not
56:27
have password accounts and that kind of stuff so there two things there but I
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think the main one that you're complaining about is that they don't
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have a step in between that says that account doesn't exist do you want to
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create a new one or did you think you had one that's what
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they but then that's a barrier as far as they're concerned to you spending money
56:48
so but no I got you're right [ __ ] annoying but was quite exciting when I
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saw that this is coming to Game Pass I will get to play it yeah and I'll get
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achievement for it I've yet to play it too but I I do own it I've gone [ __ ]
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nuts with I've I've filled my switch I had to start deleting
57:05
things i' I've become a collector of games like I am on Steam oh yeah well
57:11
you can just buy you you probably got an old you've probably got sc's in storage
57:14
so yeah no I definitely do just not on me yeah and then you don't have to
57:18
delete them from your account you just delete them from the device um just
57:21
archive them yeah but I have been playing Resident Evil Village and it is excellent
57:26
oh it's so good yeah so I think last week I'd only played the
57:30
demo where and and it and it was great it was it tempted me to buy the entire
57:34
game and uh it's great and it runs beautifully even though it's on the
57:38
cloud and it looks I mean I'm probably glad I didn't pay play the Xbox version
57:43
first because this looks like a perfectly beautiful the fact that it's
57:47
running on the cloud it probably cuz I'd hate to see what it would look like
57:50
running on that Hardware but running on the cloud probably allows it to look a
57:54
lot better and probably doesn't look much different than playing on the Xbox
57:59
then Cloud versions of the games that's so
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fascinating yeah right amazing yeah [ __ ] amazing game where
58:10
how far are you you in I don't want to I don't want to in the village I'm in the
58:14
castle the castle I've fought the dude with the axe and I've killed one of the
58:18
daughters right you've met what's his name the the merchant yeah the big fat
58:24
dude yeah and time you see him he's just [ __ ] in the house [ __ ] eating and
58:29
you're like the [ __ ] are you doing here now I want to play it it's so so good
58:35
Luke I'm going to finish seven today what I love about it seven was good too
58:39
oh Seven's excellent but seven in fact at this point s is probably better
58:44
because it's so scary and it's so insula you're just in that one house for so
58:49
much of the game creeping around trying not to let Hicks see you and Hicks scare
58:54
me more than monsters do um cuz I grew up in the west but um and
59:00
you don't want to sque like a little peig yeah correct um but this is great
59:04
because it's it touches on the fear of just stealthily creeping around
59:10
that seven had but with cool monsters and more of a Resident Evil Vibe um and
59:17
it's in Eastern Europe so it's also got that like super goth feel it's it's
59:20
really good I will tell you I talked about this on an episode in the past and
59:23
I will just warn you again that there is a sequence in this game that I almost
59:30
had to turn it off because I was it disturbs me so much and I think
59:36
possibly anyway I'll just leave it at that really okay further than where I am
59:43
yes yeah cool I was I literally I was playing it and then I I I to pause the
59:48
game the controller I go [ __ ] man do I want to keep doing this
59:54
tonight you just described my sex life you put the controller down I just
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stop and go [ __ ] do I want to keep doing this
1:00:05
tonight or do I just want to spit and be done with
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