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How Jeffrey Epstein Allegedly Used Elite Financial Services to Move Women (5/13/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. The criminal empire that was being run by
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  Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of armor and a lot
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  of protection, and of course that's how he was able
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  to do what he did for so long. But that
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  suit of armor that they wrapped themselves in has a
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  weak spot, and that week spot has to do with
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  the finances. And that's because, unlike witnesses, the money trail
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  never forgets and when it comes to Epstein and what
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  Epstein was up to, that's one of the areas that
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  was never really explored, which is crazy to think about
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  considering just how much this guy was involved in clandestine
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  business dealings. And look, it's not like the DJ didn't know.
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  They had all the information we had. Plus more so,
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  when the DJ acts like they didn't have the information
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  or they had no idea what Epstein was up to
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  or what Epstein was, they're lying. But besides the DOJ,
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  I think the biggest corporate in this whole thing is
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  the financial sector, because without the financial sector, there's no
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  widespread human trafficking operation. You have to have a bank
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  that's willing to play ball, right and when it comes
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  to Jeffrey Epstein, he had plenty of banks and other
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  financial institutions that were willing to do just that. And
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  one of those companies, one of those financial institutions that
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  was utilized by Jeffrey Epstein was none other than American Express.
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  Today's article was originally published in Bloomberg, but we're taking
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  a look at it at WA today dot com headline
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  Epstein's black amex how he secretly moved women around with
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  invite only credit cards. This article was authored by Max Abelson,
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  Peter Guest, and Jeff cow Jeffrey Epstein's office set a
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  rule for its special team inside American Express. Spending on
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  trips for young women and others had to be kept
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  a secret, even from his inner circle, so people at
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  American Express were playing ball. Keep that in mind and
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  then ask yourself how this is not a Rico case.
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  I'll tell you what. Epstein's lucky his last name didn't
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  end in a vowel, because if he was Italian, he
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  would have ended up underneath the prison. I mean, this
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  case was made for Rico after a flight confirmation went
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  out to multiple people in twenty seventeen, Epstein's longtime assistant
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  Leslie Groff, who was not accused of any wrongdoing. Really okay,
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  send a message to the relationship manager for his invite
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  only black card officially known as Centurion, please help take
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  all email addresses out of our account so the survivor
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  should sue American Express. Pretty simple. Every single institution that
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  played a part that enabled Jeffrey Epstein, with provable evidence
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  backing that up, should be held accountab just like JP
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  Morgan was, just like Deutsche Bank was, and just like
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  Bank of America was. Without these banks, Epstein cannot do
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  what he did. And that's not speculation. That's not me
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  thinking that that's the case. That's the case. She explained
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  that Jeffrey was livid because he's extremely private and doesn't
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  want any flight confirmation sent out to anyone but me.
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  That's not true. He wanted to make sure everything was
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  locked in. He wanted to make sure everything was hidden,
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  and in order for that to happen, he had to
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  limit the amount of prying eyes that were looking at
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  these you know itineraries. And the fact that American Express
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  would play ball with them, it just tells you everything
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  you need to know. Do you think American Express would
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  do the same for you. For years, Epstein's office relied
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  on American Express to arrange trips not just for the
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  disgraced financier who pleaded guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution,
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  but for dozens of women, often Eastern European. His Centurion
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  relationship manager also booked and canceled trips that were never
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  meant to be taken, a move aimed at helping the
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  women obtain visas. According to emails released by the Department
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  of Justice, just right here alone, we have two predicates
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  of rico immigration fraud, wire fraud, and I'm sure a
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  prosecutor out there could get way more creative and hit
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  them with a bunch of other crimes as well. The
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  documents offer a window into the uppermost tier of consumer finance,
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  where the wealthiest clients are paired with dedicated handlers who
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  anticipate needs and handle an array of requests. In the
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  Centurion program, reserved for American Express biggest spenders, relationship managers
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  play highly personalized roles as travel agents, problem solvers, and
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  door openers and now co conspirators because that's what you are.
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  Don't tell me you had no idea what was going on.
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  They did they did it anyway, and why because Epstein
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  had a bunch of money. And that's really what it
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  comes down to. When you chop away all the fat.
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  For Epstein, the discretion in service that came with the
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  card provided already made infrastructure for arranging travel for women.
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  More than one hundred of them have accused him of abuse,
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  and several have said they were flown by various means
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  to Epstein's properties in the US, Europe, and the Caribbean.
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  He was arrested on charges of sex trafficking in July
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  of twenty nineteen and died in federal custody the next month. Well,
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  at least they said died here, not killed himself. It
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  always cracks me up when they're definitively sure that Epstein
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  killed himself. I'd love to see that evidence. That was
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  more than a decade after Epstein pleaded guilty to sex
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  offenses in a Florida state court in two thousand and eight.
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  In between, his money and connections bought some of the
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  most luxurious help the financial system has to offer, sparing
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  him from the struggles facing the millions of people who
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  leave prison and jails each year. Well, look, Epstein was
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  never gonna have money problems. The money that was on
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  the books that we know about, that was only a
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  portion of it. Do you really think a guy like
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  Jeffrey Epstein didn't have money stashed in places that we
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  have no idea about. Heimo certainly did. And as far
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  as who has access to that stuff, I don't know.
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  Somebody does. Somebody knows where it is. Along with an
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  array of billionaires, lawyers, executives, advisors, and co conspirators, Epstein
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  used one of consumer capitalism's icons of exclusivity and excess
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  to keep his machine moving. The booking patterns and fake
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  itineraries are the kind of requests that should have raised
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  red flags, said two experts in human trafficking who asked
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  not to be named discussing legally sensitive matters. Why wouldn't
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  they want to be named? That's so weird. You're not
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  working for the company or whatever. Why don't you want
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  your name out there? But that said, they're not wrong.
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  It should have raised a bunch of red flags, and
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  it didn't. And the question is why who was ignoring it?
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  Who was supposed to be monitoring it, who was supposed
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  to be reporting it? And unfortunately we still don't have
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  those answers, and in my opinion, that's by design. And
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  American Express spokesperson said the company terminated Epstein's account after
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  the federal charges against them and regrets having them as
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  a customer. American Express strongly condemns abuse, exploitation, and human trafficking,
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  the spokesperson said in a statement, adding that the company
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  continuously updates its process and controls. We take our legal
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  and regulatory responsibility seriously, including reporting and suspicious activity. Will
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  not seriously enough. If Epstein was able to do what
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  he did for as long as he did, probably not
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  a great flex to talk about how your regulatory system
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  is so great. Seems to me that it's anything but. Epstein,
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  a card holder since nineteen seventy seven, was a lucrative customer.
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  At times he spent at a clip of more than
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  one million per year, statement show, likely generating tens of
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  thousands of dollars of fees for American Express. He had
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  Centurion from at least two thousand four, according to the
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  public files. By two thousand and six there were eight
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  Goal cards counting additional users, and a Platinum to go
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  with it. His account was up to three centurions in
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  twenty twelve, and as many as nine in two thousand seventeen.
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  A message to prosecutors from American Express after Epstein's arrest
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  in twenty nineteen tallied centurions, a Platinum golds, a blue
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  cash card, and business cards including Plumb and Gold. One
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  of his accounts Centurion cards was in the name of
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  Selina Dubin, the daughter of his billionaire friend Glenn and
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  Eva Anderson Dubin. According to a twenty eighteen statement that
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  since been more fully redacted, Corinna Shuliac, Epstein's girlfriend, had
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  a card with a sixty thousand dollars monthly spending limit.
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  And remember, there is no allegations about Shuliac abusing anybody
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  or anything like that. But I think she has a
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  story to tell, and I think that what she does
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  know could be crucial. She's the last person that Epstein
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  ever talked to allegedly on the phone, so we should
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  probably hear from her, right, I mean, I would think
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  that Congress would want to hear what she has to say.
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  More than one hundred thousand of spending detailed on Epstein's
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  Centurion statement from June and December of twenty twelve ranges
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  from Quitodian to Decadent, a locksmith, plumbing supplies, cabs, chocolate,
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  movie tickets, match dot Com, Vivian Westwood, and the Ritzy
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  Manhattan restaurant per Se. In twenty eighteen, he had eleven
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  point two million reward points, even after giving a million
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  to an associate. The spending on Selena Dubin's card included flight, juice,
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  a cheese shop, a delivery, a fitness studio, and eleven
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  Madison Park Hampton's pop up. A representative for the Dubins
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  and a lawyer for Shuliac both declined to comment. Well,
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  that's not shocking. What do they have to gain by
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  commenting at this point, right? That just opens the door
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  for people to start asking more questions. And if you
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  haven't figured it out yet, that's the last thing any
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  of these people want. The main contact at American Express
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  for Epstein's office was Natalia Malakova, a Centurion relationship manager
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  from Russia. According to her email, she's based outside Atlanta
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  and had once worked out a visa agency in the city.
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  Messages to Malakova weren't returned. American Express to client to
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  comment or to say whether she was still employed by
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  the company or if not when she left, well, I
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  have a good idea hit these mforts with a Rico case.
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  More than a dozen American Express colleagues helped rank flights,
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  zig zagging Moscow, Miami, Minsk, New York, Saint Petersburg, West
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  Palm Beach, Warsaw, and beyond. Groff was clear about who
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  was in charge. Jeffrey now like the girls to depart. Tuesday,
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  November twenty second evening she wrote about one trip for
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  another she requested an itinerary for girls with price tags,
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  whatever that means, and of course Jeffrey was in charge.
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  Talk about a slow served up pitch when it comes
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  to a Rico case and the government decides not to
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  jump on it, but sure, let's charge ditty with Rico.
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  The emails don't show Groff explaining why many of the
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  women were traveling, though in several cases she said they
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  were arranging trips to obtain visas. Groff declined to answer
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  questions for this story. Her lawyer said she never witnessed
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  anything illegal. No, she just took part in logistics. She
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  just took part and bringing these girls to Jeffrey Epstein
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  like for real, that's like driving the getaway car after
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  a robbery and somebody gets murdered, and then you claim
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  you had nothing to do with it. Homie, you drove
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  the car. What are you even talking about right now?
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  Graf hask to arrange a fully refundable trip for an
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  Eastern European model just before Christmas of twenty twelve, telling
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  Malotkova to move fast so the woman could get an
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  itinerary for an interview with the consulate. Groff told her
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  to book anything for any hotel. We don't care how
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  much or what it's like, explaining that the model would
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  alter the day to yourself on the reservation to match
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  the air. She knows how to do it with word.
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  So this Malakova was working with them. She was their
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  inside source at American Express, and in my opinion, she
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  should be investigated and if there's crimes here, she should
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  be charged. Mulletkova had a question and an offer. Does
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  she need the reservation only for the visa purpose? It's
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  against MX policy, to be honest, she wrote back, but
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  here is the option. We can hold it till tonight.
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  After the scheduled appointment, Groff told Malakova to cancel the trip.
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  She added, you have been great mala Kova, it appears,
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  was also willing to help. When Groff told her to
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  find a flight just for show from Rome to London
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  around the same time as another from Rome to Miami.
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  This is a decoy flight, Epstein's assistant told her in
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  January of twenty sixteen, she will not really take it,
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  but needs to show an itinerary for this flight. Malakava
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  sent her options. That March. When Shuley act told Groff
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  she needed a quick trip reservation to bring to a
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  visa appointment, Epstein's assistant simply forwarded the note to Malakova.
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  It became routine. In March of twenty eighteen, Malakova asked
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  if she could cancel flights booked for a Canadian visa.
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  So look, this lady was right in the middle of
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  all of it. This is immigration fraud, folks, right here
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  in real time. The question is what's going to be
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  done about it. Epstein's office also got help from more
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  than ten American Express support staff members, half a dozen
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  travel counselors, and a colleague named Kathy, whom Alakova considered great.
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  She helped with a flight that was reserved so one
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  woman could get her visa and another trip that Groff
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  said was for the girls, though she clarified that one
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  was over twenty five other co workers helped Epstein's office
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  book flights for women from Lithuania and Russia. According to
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  public documents, Yeah, big time loan predator. Huh, one guy
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  doing all this stuff. Anybody who's saying that is a
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  liar and they shouldn't be listened to. All kinds of
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  companies aimed to please important customers, Though holders of the
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  Black Cart are welcomed into one of the most special
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  clubs and finance once they make it, even if their
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  lifestyles seem extraordinary, relationship managers are there to enable not questioned.
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  According to one former American Express employee who asked not
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  to be named speaking about internal company matters, it's not
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  uncommon for Centurion card holders to use relationship managers as
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  personal assistants. The person said. While relationship managers are trained
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  on spotting risky or a legal behavior and to have
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  an obligation to report suspicious activity, their job is to
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  keep the client happy, the person said. For Epstein's office,
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  privacy was paramount. Information on one trip went out further
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  than it was supposed to. In early twenty sixteen. According
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  to a note asking Molokova to investigate, her response could
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  be a glitch, but that may a ticket for Epstein
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  himself was sent around too widely. Please can you make
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  it stop? Graft holder only send tickets to me. Malakova apologized,
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  no problem, Groff answered, but sometimes I don't want all
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  these people to know about ticket. It's on purchasing, so
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  really good to get this fixed. Yeah, everything was secret.
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  Everything was hidden, and that's because she knew it was illegal.
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  I don't know how much more clear I need to be.
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  It happened again in September. A year later, a flight
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  confirmation for someone else made its way to Shulyac, triggering
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  the police help message. One of the reasons for Groff's
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  alarm was for upcoming travel. I'm petrified that all these
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  tickets we have coming up this week from Russia to
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  Paris will somehow resurface and get email to someone in
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  our list of emails, she wrote. I know you understand
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  this is truly a gigantic issue. Yeah, she understands, all right,
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  because she's part of it. She understands because she's getting paid.
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  Epstein was irritated, She told Molokova, who offered to ease
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  his mood. We had sixty thousand points. We do value
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  mister Epstein's business, Malakova wrote, Graf, and your hard work.
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  The emails show a polite relationship between Epstein's office and
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  Malakova or her American Express colleagues. The subjects range from
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  oral surgery to kidney donation, coffee, the World Cup, dance competitions,
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  and vacations in Russia and Disney World. I feel guilty
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  when you have a complicated request and I'm not here,
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  Malakova told Groff at the end of twenty fifteen. Oh,
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  how cute. Isn't that nice? And you know what's so crazy?
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  The FBI, the DOJ never investigated any of this. I
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  wonder why. And when Graf asked in twenty seventeen for
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  a ticket for Moscow to Paris, Malakova wished her a
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  happy International Women's Day and taught her its history and
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  that phrase equivalent in Russia. It came from Europe politically
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  active women. So say your Russian girls essay at Marta,
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  they will know. Graf thanked her, good to know and noted,
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  I work with plenty of Russians. Yeah, traffic girls, women
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  that have been stolen. Basically, arranging the itineraries often required
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  long exchanges. In September of twenty eighteen, they worked to
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  arrange a trip for a woman in Eastern Europe. After
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  much back and forth, Graf asked if her office changed
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  flights more than any of Malakhova's other clients. Yes, Malikova wrote,
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  but you still are the best, most understanding and patient.
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  I love you. Look this lady, she's part of the
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  criminal enterprise. I'm sorry, but she is, and in my opinion,
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  she should be investigated. Epstein remained a customer until his arrest.
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  From March through June twenty nineteen, his account racked up
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  more than two and a half million of spending, much
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  of it for card connected to a business named for
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  his private island. Five days after Epstein was taken into
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  custody by federal agents, American Express Travels sent an itinerary
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  to Shuliak for a business class flight from New York
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  to Warsaw and then on to Minsk. Enjoy your trip,
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  it said, folks. This is exactly what I've been telling
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  you about the financial sector, and the fact that there's
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  never been a real investigation into the financial side of
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  this is just crazy, and with Senator Wyden trying to
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  go after the money trail, I wonder if this is
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  gonna pop up. So we'll keep an eye on this
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  and we'll see what comes of it. But I think
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  it really proves the point about what Epstein was up
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  to and just how vast this network really was. And
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  while the talk about a loan predator is nothing but nonsense.
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  All the information that goes with this episode can be
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