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Van-Life Girl's 'Boyfriend' Named Person of Interest in Gabby's Disappearance · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, twenty two year old Gabby Petito.
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  Speaker 1: Where is she in the last hours of breaking news
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  Speaker 1: in the search for Gabby Petito Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I want to introduce to you a
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  Speaker 1: very special guest joining us. For those of you that
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  Speaker 1: do not know him, Gabby's father, Joseph Petito, is with us.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Petito. Thank you for being with us. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: mister Petito. We have all feel like we're searching for
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  Speaker 1: Gabby too. We will go through all of the facts
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  Speaker 1: leading up to this moment, but in my mind, there
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  Speaker 1: are two breaking issues right now. Number One, we are
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  Speaker 1: learning of an August twelve incident in Moab, Utah where
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  Speaker 1: someone called police and police arrived at the location about
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  Speaker 1: an incident between Gabby, your girl and her boyfriend laundry.
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  Speaker 1: They left. They said there was not an insufficient evidence
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  Speaker 1: to make any arrest. What was the call about? Was
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  Speaker 1: there some kind of an argument. I need to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't know, Listen, I I don't
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  Speaker 1: have information. I just started, you know online as well.
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  Speaker 1: Gabby didn't let me know about that. But you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell your dad something like that, because what a
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  Speaker 1: dad's gonna do. I'm gonna jump in my car. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna drive down there, and I'm gonna situation right. You're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna handle you. She's not gonna tell me that
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  Speaker 1: unless you unless you needed me too. So I honestly
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  Speaker 1: can't speak. I do not know right. We are also
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  Speaker 1: learning that the so called boyfriend, Brian Laundry, has been
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  Speaker 1: named a person of interest according to Florida Police. Let
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  Speaker 1: me just start at the beginning for those of you
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  Speaker 1: just joining us with me. Is Gabby's father, Joseph Petito. Everyone,
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  Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this. An emotional
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  Speaker 1: mother holding onto a photo of her daughter is desperate
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  Speaker 1: for her to come home. Scary and nerve wracking. We
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  Speaker 1: don't sleep, We're just actively looking for her. Gabby Petito's
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  Speaker 1: family reported her missing Saturday to Suffolk County Police. The
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  Speaker 1: twenty two year old of Blue Point was on a
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  Speaker 1: cross country road trip, but kept in touch with her
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  Speaker 1: mom at least three times a week, move in FaceTime,
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  Speaker 1: called text frequently. She kept me updated on this whole trip.
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  Speaker 1: Her mother says. They last phase timed about three weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: The last text she received was on August thirtieth. The
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  Speaker 1: first couple of days, I wasn't getting responses. I believe
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  Speaker 1: she was in a place with no service. Um. It took.
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  Speaker 1: It was like day eight to nine that I really
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  Speaker 1: became concerned. You were hearing our friends at CBS two.
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  Speaker 1: That was Jenna Dangeli speaking to Gabby's mom back to
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  Speaker 1: her dad joining us. Mister Petito, mister Petito, what did
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  Speaker 1: you think when your daughter first told you she was
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  Speaker 1: going on a cross country trip with our boyfriend. I
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  Speaker 1: protected dad, No, I really I didn't like the idea,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm not one. She's a crown woman.
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  Speaker 1: You know. She has to make her choices, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to support her choices. You know. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's what her father is supposed to do. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what I did. That's what her mom did, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And we offered to help in any way and that
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  Speaker 1: we can. And she, you know, she did it right,
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  Speaker 1: dude too. She had a she had an itinerary, she
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  Speaker 1: had a plan. She I mean, she did everything she's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to do before even heading out. You know. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like, oh, we're gonna go do this, let's just
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  Speaker 1: do now, let's jump in a car and go. That's
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  Speaker 1: not how this was. They planned it for a while,
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  Speaker 1: and according to the neighbors and where they lived, they
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  Speaker 1: had worked and worked and worked converting that forward transit
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  Speaker 1: into really a pretty nice travel van a camper. They
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  Speaker 1: really planned the whole thing out, including redoing the entire vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this was a big trip and they planned hard.
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  Speaker 1: I've looked and looked and looked at the videos that
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  Speaker 1: she was posting about their trip, and I've said it
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of one of those shows on HGTV where
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  Speaker 1: you see people traveling in campers. I mean, she did
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful job on the inside of it. This is
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  Speaker 1: a very well planned trip. How often was she staying
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  Speaker 1: in touch with you? We would always talk, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would talk to her once, you know, twice a week.
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  Speaker 1: Her mom she talked two three times a week. My kids.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's talking too often on a mom's side.
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  Speaker 1: She still up to her brothers and sisters often. I
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  Speaker 1: got I got nieces and nephews that she would and
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  Speaker 1: family friends she constantly be in contact with. So she
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  Speaker 1: was always contacting us and talking to us and you know,
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  Speaker 1: letting us know what she did. And where she's headed.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like you know, um, we didn't hear for
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  Speaker 1: her at three weeks old. And by the way I
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  Speaker 1: did this, this and this, we knew where she was headed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we knew what she was doing. When did
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  Speaker 1: you realize something was wrong? And we stopped hearing from her?
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  Speaker 1: You know it Usually you know, she'll call me, she
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  Speaker 1: talked to her mom, she'll call my son, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. Someone always heard from her. Then we
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  Speaker 1: started asking questions if you talked to Gabby, if you
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  Speaker 1: talk to Gabby, you know, and they more and more
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  Speaker 1: we got concerned. On Thursday, I guess the eighth. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the eighth, ninth, maybe ninth, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's of September. We still did really you know, be
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  Speaker 1: like listen, we got we got to figure something out here.
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  Speaker 1: And then we waited to the tenth dude, and then
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  Speaker 1: we started, I mean the yeah, whatever the Friday was,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the exact day, and we started to
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  Speaker 1: we put it. We tried to do the missing person report.
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  Speaker 1: I started in North Porth, Florida because that was the
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  Speaker 1: place of residence. They said you have to go to Utah,
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  Speaker 1: which is the last place I thought she was seen
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  Speaker 1: at that point in time, and Utah's telling me it's
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  Speaker 1: got to be your place of residence. So it really
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  Speaker 1: took twenty four hours. And I was begging, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I may have threatened, you know, doing to do anything
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  Speaker 1: to get the missing report files so we can start
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  Speaker 1: looking for her. And it was an amazing detective by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Tracy who um took Nikki seriously and
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  Speaker 1: put the report in and that's how we got to
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  Speaker 1: where we are. Nikki is Gabby's mom, um Schmidt, Nicole Nicolon.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that it's been reported originally, you were blown
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  Speaker 1: off that nobody took the claim seriously. And I've got
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  Speaker 1: to say, James Shelnutt joining me twenty seven years Mutro
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  Speaker 1: a major case now lawyer. That drives me crazy no end.
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  Speaker 1: When a woman is reported missing and the family or
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  Speaker 1: the reporter gets to run around, they got the run
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  Speaker 1: around for twenty four hours. Are you serious? She lives
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  Speaker 1: in Florida, she's missing, and Florida says, go to Utah. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I got outside looking in. I'm sure policies
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  Speaker 1: like that makes sense, but when you're emotionally invested, into it.
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  Speaker 1: There are things that just don't make sense, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you really like, how come they can't do something?
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  Speaker 1: Or how come they can't talk to someone? And when
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  Speaker 1: you're emotionally invested, you like, I don't get it. But
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  Speaker 1: when you're not, and you you know, outside looking in,
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  Speaker 1: and there are reasons for it. So I'm sure, but
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  Speaker 1: we didn't. We were able to find help because we
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  Speaker 1: weren't stopping. But she was ultimately reported me saying there
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. No, no, the missing person report came out
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  Speaker 1: of South A County, New York. Okay, yes, that makes
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  Speaker 1: sense as well, but not Utah Time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking to Gabby Petito's father joining us, Joseph Petito.
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  Speaker 1: So after about twenty four hours and back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: you get her reported missing. When did you learn that
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend, Brian Laundry had come home. I still haven't
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  Speaker 1: learned when he came home. When did you learn he
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  Speaker 1: was home and the van was home? He was safe
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  Speaker 1: and sound. The van is safe and sound, but there's
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  Speaker 1: no sign of Gabby. When did you learn he was home?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna speak to when I learned
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  Speaker 1: of it? To be honest with there's investigation and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let the FBI and the sheriffs and
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  Speaker 1: the police handle all that. You have. People are all
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  Speaker 1: around the country working tartly an amazing by the way.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to say, they have been awesome, you know,
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  Speaker 1: keeping me up to date, keeping me, you know, abreast
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  Speaker 1: of what they're doing. They're keeping stuff close to the vest.
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  Speaker 1: It's an investigation. I get it, but they've been awesome.
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  Speaker 1: But I really, you know, it's just about finding her.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if he's not going to cooperate or he's
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  Speaker 1: going to talk or sit in the background, which I
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  Speaker 1: don't get, you know, it's still be it. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you found out he was home
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  Speaker 1: when the van was safe? I do remember. But I'm again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to it because it is
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  Speaker 1: it's an open investigation, and to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because at the moment, she's not here. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: tell me about the search for her. Now, I understand
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  Speaker 1: that a search is going on in the Teton's nyming name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say again, you know what, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hinder any type of search parties and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to say where, but there are
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  Speaker 1: searches going on and until I'm allowed to. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI says, you know what, Joe, here you go.
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  Speaker 1: You can say this done. I got no issues with it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it. I think yesterday I got a little
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  Speaker 1: emotional when I heard there. I heard their statement and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I spoke to the FBI afterwards, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was like, you know what, I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: I'll keep I'll try and keep my emotions born in check.
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  Speaker 1: When you heard the Laundry state is to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: That was the statement. That was four lines to crack.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, hey, what do I know if you
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  Speaker 1: if you, if you honestly wish for her to come home?
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  Speaker 1: All right? They cool? You know what, Let's sit down.
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  Speaker 1: I was asking questions. Maybe you got answers, maybe you don't,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a way to find out, right, so talk
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  Speaker 1: to us. What's up? No, they got I got nothing right,
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  Speaker 1: So I gotta do what I can. Mister Potito. What
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  Speaker 1: did the statement say? Well, let's say what was line one?
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  Speaker 1: Line one is this is very hard for the Potito
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  Speaker 1: family and the Laundry family. Well, then you know what
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  Speaker 1: it's all about. A second it maybe it is hard
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  Speaker 1: having reporters at your house and and your block kind
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  Speaker 1: of shut down. I don't know. You know, that's not
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  Speaker 1: how happening to me. So maybe that is done. I
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  Speaker 1: can't tell you, But I know what I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you is that their son is in their home. They
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  Speaker 1: know exactly where they where he is. I got a
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  Speaker 1: child that's nowhere to be found. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: what state to start it. So don't tell me it's hard,
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  Speaker 1: all right, because I guarantee you I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 1: Oswitch place is. What you're right now? What would they
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  Speaker 1: rather do? So the first line is it's hard on
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  Speaker 1: the Potito family and the Laundry family. What was the
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  Speaker 1: second line? The second line is talking about the I
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  Speaker 1: think it was. I'm pretty sure I was talking about
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  Speaker 1: there's an open investigation or a search party in Wyoming
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. So you know that I didn't have an
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  Speaker 1: issue with the second line other than the fact that
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  Speaker 1: says we're gonna stay in the background, or whatever line
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  Speaker 1: that was or wherever it came out, You're gonna stay
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  Speaker 1: in the background. Just good, you love, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: stay in the background. Can you just travel the country
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  Speaker 1: with this girl for two months and you're gonna stay
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  Speaker 1: in the background. You say you love her. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what. I've been married to my wife twenty one year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been with my wife twenty one years,
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  Speaker 1: married sixteen years. If she needs me, I'm there no
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  Speaker 1: matter what. I hope to be there before she even
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  Speaker 1: says I need you, and we're beg You got family
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  Speaker 1: members begging, and you're gonna stay in the background. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Does anybody take that seriously that you care? Then? Did
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  Speaker 1: anyone in the panel? I'm asking everyone on your panel
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  Speaker 1: right now, any of you take that seriars do you
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  Speaker 1: think they care if she's missing? If they're gonna stay
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  Speaker 1: in the background and not help, ask me. I think
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  Speaker 1: they care that their son doesn't get in trouble. I
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  Speaker 1: think they care about that, and they would like her
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  Speaker 1: found so they're someone't get in trouble. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what they care about, because if they cared about finding Gabby,
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  Speaker 1: he the fiance, the boyfriend would be saying, this is
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  Speaker 1: the last time I saw her. We got into a fight,
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  Speaker 1: she got out of the van, I drove off. That
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  Speaker 1: was that she said she didn't want to be with me,
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  Speaker 1: or she fell off a cliff, or she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go with this other group, or I left her at
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  Speaker 1: this hotel in Salt Lake City. Tell me something. If
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to help find her, they would at least
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  Speaker 1: say where she was last saying. That's how I see it,
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  Speaker 1: mister potato. If you listen, if you're gonna get an
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  Speaker 1: attorney because you're afraid, no, listen, maybe there are scenarios
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  Speaker 1: where he did nothing wrong. There are scenarios, and you
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  Speaker 1: got to get an attorney just to make sure you
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  Speaker 1: don't get a trapped something that you're not responsible for.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I got no issues
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  Speaker 1: with that. But I'll tell you what the attorney's gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna talk to you and they're gonna sit next
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  Speaker 1: to you as you tell the police your story, and
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  Speaker 1: they'll they'll shut down any questions that you know. They
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to answer it because the an attorney
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be smart, not this guy, but it
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be smart, you know. So they'll protect
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  Speaker 1: you to make sure that you're okay. But at least
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  Speaker 1: you're answering questions did you haven't gotten you know, excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: what time is it? And you haven't gotten an answer.
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  Speaker 1: So no, no, you can't tell me you care. You
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  Speaker 1: can't tell me you care, not even a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that either your your ex Nicole Schmidt, that's
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's mother, reached out to the law family to try
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  Speaker 1: to speak to them and find out where Gabby was
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  Speaker 1: last alive. And nobody is calling back. Nobody's giving in
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  Speaker 1: any information. No return phone calls, no emails, no text nothing.
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  Speaker 1: We've been doing that since Friday, since Friday. I think
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  Speaker 1: we did the report on Saturday, Thursday night and the
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  Speaker 1: Friday all day Friday. We will call him on all
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  Speaker 1: of them. I had a friend of mine getting me
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  Speaker 1: the siblings phone numbers, Dad's phone number. No one responded.
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  Speaker 1: I still haven't responded. Just an FYI. I used to
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  Speaker 1: look at unanswered calls and texting my phone from them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Why why they can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: where he was last with her? You know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand it either, But it's irrelevant at the moment. At
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  Speaker 1: the moment, yeah, you're right, all that matters is how
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  Speaker 1: can we help find Gabby? For those of you listening.
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  Speaker 1: The tip line is eight hundred two two zero eight
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  Speaker 1: four to seven to seven repeat eight hundred two two
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  Speaker 1: zero eight four seven seven. Gabby Potito is twenty two beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: five five, one hundred ten pounds, blonde, here, blue eyes,
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  Speaker 1: triangle tattoo on one arm. Let it be tattoo on
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  Speaker 1: the other arm, and she is a nature lover. I
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  Speaker 1: would be looking for her at campgrounds, at r V
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  Speaker 1: camp grounds, mister Botito, I just took my twins, who
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  Speaker 1: are thirteen now, last summer during COVID, on this exact
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  Speaker 1: trip from the Tetons to Yellowstone and all the way
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  Speaker 1: back to the Eastern seaboard, and it's very treacherous. It's
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  Speaker 1: very dangerous territory. There's a lot of land for them
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  Speaker 1: to cover. But I would start, I think at campgrounds
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  Speaker 1: and r V grounds and national parks. Yeah, yeah, anywhere
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  Speaker 1: it isn't you know what. Here's what I ask every
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  Speaker 1: one of your listeners, every one of your viewers, go
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  Speaker 1: look online. It's full of your your peach, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just look at pictures of her. Look at the tattoos
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  Speaker 1: she's got, look at her facial features, you know, memorize them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm begging you. I'm begging, I'm begging you, Nancy, keep
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  Speaker 1: them up. As long as you can memorize her face,
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  Speaker 1: memorize her tattoos. When you're walking down the street, when
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  Speaker 1: you're hiking a path where it doesn't matter, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you see something, call the tip line. Let let
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  Speaker 1: the FBI and the police and the sheriff's handle all
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  Speaker 1: their tips. I got they have people trained to comb
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  Speaker 1: through all of them and get the good ones that
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  Speaker 1: that are factual. Please, I just will that. That's That's
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  Speaker 1: the only thing I can ask of your listeners and
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  Speaker 1: your viewers. Please look at her picture. Please memorize her
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  Speaker 1: face if you if you want, go to her her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram or her for her YouTube videos whatever they are,
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  Speaker 1: and and and and listen to her voice. Look at
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  Speaker 1: her mannerisms, the way she walks, the way she holds
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  Speaker 1: herself up, you know, and and and and and when
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  Speaker 1: if you see someone that looks like that, I'm begging you,
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  Speaker 1: begging you, please call the tip line. I can't I
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  Speaker 1: can't implore that enough. I need we we will all
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  Speaker 1: need her home. I mean, we're we're we're a close family.
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  Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace, mister Potito question to you.
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  Speaker 1: I understand the last actual signing of her was in Ogden, Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct? No? I think the last time she
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  Speaker 1: was seen was in the Grand Featons of Wyoming. Now
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  Speaker 1: since then we haven't had contact with it. She there
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  Speaker 1: were some you know, some pictures I guess with the
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  Speaker 1: butterfly wings, which was in Ogden Uta or one of
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  Speaker 1: those pictures of jev on our instagram was in But
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the last time she was known to be in was
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a Grand Teaton. So but that's the problem. That's the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: that's the crux of it, right When you say non
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to be in, was she actually seen there? Yes? So
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's and that's why that's why you know Jim's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: over in Wyoming now you know so. But that's that's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: too that Nancy. That's the biggest issue right now, right
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: is the laundry. Sun is home in their house and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I don't even know exactly what state or where to start.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I mean he's in Florida. They were in Utah, I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: mean Wyoming, right, So that means I could you go
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: get in the map. We've got twenty three day drives anywhere.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I did. We went through
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: every place, and I'm holding it up right now because
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I know you can't see me everywhere. We know they've
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: stopped in routes in between, and there are a lot
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of them. This is a really long cross country east
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to west route. And mister Patito was saying, it's like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a needle in a haystaate. They don't really know where
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: to even start looking. Boy, I need everybody, mister Patito.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Is it like her at all to just go off
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: on her own, to be angry at the boyfriend, go
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: off on her go camping. Has she ever done that
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: before and been out of touch with you or No, Nicole, No,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: she's twenty two. She's not independently wealthy, you know how, No,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: not at all. I mean i'd send her money. You know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I spoke to her on the twenty first. I sent
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: her food, not that she needed it and stuff, but
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: just make sure she had it. You know, at some
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: point she's gonna need to talk to somebody, or someone's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: gonna have to see her, or she's gonna, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: need money for food. You know, he took the van home,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: so you know, what is she doing for shelter yet?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So No, this is not
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like her. She know she's in trouble. She spent to
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: her on August twenty one. I last face timed her
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: on August twenty first. Yes, and did you say you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: sent her food? I did? I did. She was having
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: connection issues with ordering food, so I was like, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: got you, no worries and I sent her food. It's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: my daughter, it's my only daughter. To where in Utah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: She was in Salt Lake City, Utah. And I understand
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that she checked out of that hotel on the twenty fifth. No,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I believe it was the twenty fourth. Yes, you're right,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it was the twenty fourth. What did you send her?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Aber eight? I actually ordered her Domino through my Domino's app,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and got right to her and they were
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: talking that she was eating. She was telling me exactly,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you know, what was going on with her trip where
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: she was headed. I helped her with some she had
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: some technical issues with the nomadic statics page or whatever
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it was for her setting up an email. So I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: was helping her walk through that. So I mean, no
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: red flank stick out nothing, nothing, you know, and you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: no no signs of distress or trouble, nothing like that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: At all. Just for one moment, you reminded me of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the closest person in the world ever to me, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that was my dad. And just thinking of you ordering
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: her Domino's long distance just really hit me. You're so
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: incredibly close to her. Has she ever got on this
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: long without talking to you, not even a little bit,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Not even her mom, Jim, Jim, her stepfather. Jim is
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: an amazing dude, amazing You know my, you know, my, my, my,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: my wife Tara and Gabby's mom Nicole have gone out
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: together with Gabby. You know it's it wasn't you know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: We didn't play against each other. We never used Gabby
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: as a pawn. It's we're gonna do what's best for
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: our child, that is it. Jim loves her like he was,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like she was his own. My wife loves Gabby, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: she's got Gabby's got the choice. I mean, she's got
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: two families that absolutely love her as if they were
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: her own. Six She's she's one of she's the oldest
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: of six, and they're all close. You know that the
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: two separate families didn't matter to to to us and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to Jim and Niggy. You know, when it came to Gabby.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: We were all one. I mean, come on, you can't
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: ask for better than that. She's well. If you could
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: reach out right now to Brian lott Laundry and his family,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: what would your message be, first and foremost? Tell me,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you know, let's let's answer some questions that are we
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Are we in the right spot? You know, I don't
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: care about the other stuff right now. I don't give
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a damn because it means nothing to me. If my
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: daughter's not here. All right, Gabby had the tattoo on
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: her forearm, let it be right, so right now, let
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that stuff be help us, help us. I don't even
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: care right now because at the end of the day,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: if if I don't have my daughter, what it does
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the matter? You know, But they're not helping. So we're
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: doing everything we can. Mister Patito, did Brian Laundry board
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: a plane around August seventeen eighteen and fly home for
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a week? I can't. I can't discuss that. You know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: there's there's like I said, there's an investigation. I'm not
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: going to give okay stuff like that until I'm told
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to mister Pottito, what's your message to Gabby now? And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: for those people searching for her, call us, try and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you know it grabs somebody's phone and call us, you know, uh,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: send flair, try and get in touch with someone you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Try and sick and send a signal out so we
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: can come to welcome get I don't care. In minutes, minutes,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I will be there. I don't care. You know, we
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: got people all over this country looking for her, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: everybody you know, I'll tell you so you know that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit. Social media has a really bad
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: stick about being horrible. And I'll tell you it has
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: been unbelievable, how amazing. Everybody is unbelievable. Everybody's sharing, everybody's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: doing everything they can. Everybody cares. Maybe they have their
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: own personal interest in it, but at the end of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the day, they're looking for her, and that's all I
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: care about. So I'll tell you it's been amazing and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I need for that to keep happening till she comes home.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So anyone that's listening, please keep sharing. Put up the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: tip line number, you know, so people can, you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: memorize it, because we got to get her home and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that's all I'm begging for that. That tip line number
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is eight hundred two two to eight four seven seven
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: repeat eight hundred two to zero eight four seven seven
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: two two zero eight four seven seven With me is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Gabby's father, Joseph Petito making a heart felt plea to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: everyone to look for Gabby. Mister Petito, thank you. Crime
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. We will now bring in the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: rest of our all Start panel to try and make
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: sense of the facts that they are developing right now.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: James Shellnut with me twenty seven years metro in major
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: case now shell Nut Law Firm. Doctor Angela Arnold renounce psychiatris,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: MD dot com. Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, star of a hit
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: series Piked and Masker on Aren't Joe Scott Morgan, Mike
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: King joining me, the host of Profiling Evil on YouTube,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: former cop there in Ogden, Utah, and Andrea Olsen East
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Idaho News dot com. You can find her at news
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: with Angrea Mike King. First to you, former cop in Ogden, Utah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the call from we believe
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to be an anonymous tipster police report in moab Utah
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that there was insufficient evidence. Sounds to me like there
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: was a dispute and argument between Gabby and the boyfriend.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: This is on August twelve, and the cops show up
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: in leave. But what do you make of it? Yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: sounds like probably a domestic violent situation in the campground.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Another camper called law enforcement king. Probably both parties refused
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to share any information. Then because of that, then law
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: enforcement had to turn around and leave. Really disturbing. It's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: unknown how much a case report was written, how much information,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: whether the witnesses were actually retained so that there could
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: be follow up about what the conversation was. So there's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a lot there that should be followed up on it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I wish we knew, but they are not detailing that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: nine on one call. But having been at many mini
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: campgrounds and many many RV parks with my children, you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: can here allowed argument and a lot of RB and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: camping sites, some of them you're so far away you can't.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But obviously something was heard or seen that someone felt
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they had to call police, and police actually showed up
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: claiming insufficient evidence to make an arrest. That's what we
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: are learning right now. We are also learning out to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Angia Olson Eastidehonews dot Com that Florida police have named
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Brian Laundry a POI person of interest. So to tell
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you honestly, Nancy, this is all fluid information. I've been
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: trying to talk to Josh Taylor out of Northport currently.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of new information developing straight out to you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Just got Morgan. I agree with mister Petito, Gabby's father's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that's nothing. What is that? If they care and they
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: want to know what happened to her, then why aren't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: they speaking to cops? Why isn't he out looking? Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Nancy, there's a certain time in
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: life where you're on personal self interest is outweighed by
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the needs of a missing girl that's out in the wilderness.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Essentially that you have no idea what the status of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: her is. If you have any humanity within you at all,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: if you have a soul, get in contact with the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: cops and just give them an indication as to what's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: going on, because the clock is ticking at this point.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: To Jamie Shellnutt, twenty seven years metro major case now
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: lawyer at the Shelmut from take a listen to our
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: friends at CBS two. They say the inability to speak
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: with Laundry is hampering the investigation. They've only been given
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the name of an attorney to ask questions through Laundry's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: attorney here on Long Island. It's a very difficult time
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: for both the Petito family and the Laundry family. Stephen
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Bertolino declined comment on Gabby's whereabouts on behalf of the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Laundry family. I will hope that miss Petito is located
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and that she's reunited with a family. Police say they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: are very concerned for Gabby's well being. The family asked
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: for the public to focus on finding her. Out to you,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: James Shelnutt, why can't he at least state where he
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: was last with Gabby? Probably because he's concerned that it
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: could lead to some type of incriminating information against him,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you know, when well, if she's alive, and well, what
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: could the problem be? Correct? You know, if you know
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: some of the things that didn't happen also to bother
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: me in this case, and this goes to what you're asking.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: You know, he didn't ask or didn't report to the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: police that she's missing. He's not reached out to the family.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: He's not done any of the things that we would
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: normally expect a person to see an investigation if something
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: innocent was afoot. And I'm not ready to convict this
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: guy yet, but I'm just saying that he is acting
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: completely inconsistent with someone who's had a girlfriend just walk
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: up and leave, you know. Josica Morgan following on what
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Shelnan is saying, we now know that the National Park
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Service is coordinating with multiple law enforcement agencies as part
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of the investigation to Potito's whereabouts. That is a big,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a tall order to start searching national parks, But what
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they could do, do you remember, And for instance the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Laurie Vallo case, there was actually video or steals at
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a parking lot at Yellowstone showing Valo and her brother
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Alex Cox coming in with JJ entirely remember, Yeah, yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have videography. But another piece to this as
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it applies to the National Park Service is that Nancy,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know as well as anybody, there are check in
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: points that you have to meet. That's that's at a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: baseline from an investigative standpoint. When you roll through the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: gate at a federal park, you have to check in
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: now there's gonna be videography there. But there's also all
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: kinds of timestamps that are involved in this. In this world,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: this just this in the fifties, where you just roll in,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: claim a spot, drop some money in a box, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: call it done. It's not like that anymore. They're gonna
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: be little crumbs of evidence all along the way. They're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna give you an ideas to where where they are. Well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: when you go into a national park like Yellowstone, first
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of all, there's a line you have to go in,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you have to go through a guard. A lot of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: times they get your tag number, you have to pay
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: to get in. There's a lot of clues, just as
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you're saying, to figure out how far geab Be made
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it another issue. Straight to Andrea Olsen East Idaho News
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: dot Com. We know that the police were at Laundry's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: home and they left after leaving a pink envelope. What
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: was that a subpoena? Yeah, so nobody really seems to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: know what exactly that is, and I'm trying to get
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: confirmation on that today. Let me ask you, doctor Angela Arnold.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I find it interesting that you've got the Florida Police
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the Suffolk County, New York Police. You have the MOA
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: police involved, the ODDA police involved, and now the FBI
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: is involved into search for Gabby. Let me ask you,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: what does that say to you? And what do you
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: think is behind Landry's parents motive in keeping him from police? Nancy,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: this is so ugly as far as I'm concerned, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: in all of these stories that you do, things don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: very much. They are keeping him behind closed doors because
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: he is guilty of something. And if he is her fiance,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: then why isn't he over what with agony about the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: fact that this girl is missing. The reason is because
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he knows why she's missing. Okay, he is the key
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to everything and somebody. You're right, and I think the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: parent's motive is to keep their own child out of trouble.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I understand. Mike King, profiling evil host. You may have
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: information about the pin Convale. Yes, we actually received the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: note from someone that it was the repair on the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: search warrant that was just being returned for the vehicle. Now,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't validated that with law enforcement or anything else,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: but that would explain and certainly would fit with law
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: enforcement procedures. Mike King hosted profiling evil on YouTube. Former
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: cop in Ogden, Utah. Mike, Right now, so much is breaking.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: We have the boyfriend. He is not a fiancee. I've
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: clarified that much. The boyfriend has been named a person
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: of interest in Florida. We have the National Parks helping
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on the search. The FBI is now involved, which I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: find to be very very telling. What more can you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: tell us? It's unfolding right now. I think as we
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: look at the whole behavior of the whole thing, I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: we've got some anchor points. We know that they left
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Arches National Monument in Moab. We have the police call
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a week earlier, we get him to Salt Lake City.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City undoubtedly has him on video checking out
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: of the hotel, and we know they left there. We
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: know they ended up in Ogden, Utah. All of this
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: as it starts to go from jurisdictions as a jurisdiction
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and now state to state, is the reason why we
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: see the FBI involved, and now with the search going on,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it makes me want to think that they may have
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: already served some warrants on forensic information on the cell phone,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and that that's put that up into that area. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: think the report that I read was that mom had
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: actually talked to her on FaceTime or some social media
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: outlet in Jackson, so we know that she made it
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to Jackson. Then the next thought was, we were going
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to go to Yellowstone, which is just a short jump
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: from Jackson, And so they've got her up in an
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: area where they're trying to look at the cell phone
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: data and now it's going to just be interesting from
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a forensic case what that leads them to and what
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: gives probability of where she was last seeing. Well, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta say, Nancy, I've really been kind of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: rolling this over in my mind relative to the van
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and how it's being processed. If you're you know, the
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: thing about it is they've been living out of this
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: van for a protracted period of time, and I know
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: your listeners they're thinking DNA, DNA, DNA, and you're absolutely right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: There will be incidental DNA in that van as a
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: result of just day to day living. But some of
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the things that they're going to be looking for are
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: things like a sign of a struggle in there, something
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that would be such grievous trauma that she would have
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: perhaps blood is in there, tufts of hair, those sorts
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of things that are left behind in a struggle. So
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to separate the regular DNA from
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: regular life. And what might be brought about is something
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that came about as a result of nefarious activity. What
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: about regular things? If you're not going to get a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: tuft of hair? What about if all of her clothes
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: were in there? Yeah, and that's another thing, Nancy, you're
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: thinking about this wilderness area. What what if just where's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: her camping here, that's still in the van of the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: van and abandoned her in some isolated there is a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of isolated out in that area and just
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: left her. We wait as justice unfolds again the tipline
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: if you have information about Gabby Potito one eight hundred
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and two two zero eight four seven seven Nancy Grace
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Crime's story, Signing off