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EYL #193 Rio Ferdinand on Business, Manchester United, & His Media Empire · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for
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  Speaker 1: the team today?
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  Speaker 2: It was the new game day scratches from the California
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  Speaker 2: Lottery players.
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  Speaker 3: Everything.
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  Speaker 4: Those games sent the team's energy through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying it was the off field play that
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  Speaker 1: made the difference on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made
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  Speaker 5: the game that's off of now, coach.
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  Speaker 1: One more question play than New Los Angeles Chargers, San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers and Los Angeles ram scratchers from
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  Speaker 1: the California Lottery. A little play can make your day.
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  Speaker 1: Peace made responsibily. It must be eighteen years or older
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  Speaker 1: to purchase plate or claim there.
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  Speaker 4: You get so many ideas, so on a Monday you
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  Speaker 4: might get ten opportunities that present themselves. And when I
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  Speaker 4: was first gun in, I was thinking, Oh, every idea
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  Speaker 4: sounded amazing. Whoa that yeah, that's oh my yeah, that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: That's great, that's great. And then I quickly realized that
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  Speaker 4: it's not about the idea necessarily, it's about the people
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  Speaker 4: who's behind the idea. You're invested in that person to
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  Speaker 4: execute on that business. So like put the what been
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  Speaker 4: because a lot of the best ones that I've invested
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  Speaker 4: in the boring I would They don't excite me, but
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  Speaker 4: the people behind it are trusting that person. I'm believe
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  Speaker 4: in that person. Actually the idea is a good idea,
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  Speaker 4: but I believe he can actually pull through this and
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  Speaker 4: do what he's saying if he has the right resources
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  Speaker 4: around him.
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  Speaker 6: My graduates from my school being forced bad drop my draft,
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  Speaker 6: bad drop.
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  Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back, e y l u K.
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  Speaker 5: This is a very very special iconic episode.
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  Speaker 3: Please like you're the Trumps, please.
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  Speaker 5: Both shout to my guy sorely for making this possible. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 5: it's been a great resource for us. We've been getting
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  Speaker 5: a lot of love in London, a lot of hospitality.
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  Speaker 5: People are very very welcoming people and going out of
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  Speaker 5: their way to just you know, add value.
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  Speaker 4: So thank you. We appreciate that.
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  Speaker 5: So Rio Ferdinand is a legend in the sport of football.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna say soccer, but I'm gonna be respectful
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  Speaker 5: for it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's check out surround this football with.
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  Speaker 4: You, so football.
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  Speaker 5: If you A lot of our listeners live in America,
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  Speaker 5: so I'll give an education. What we call soccer is
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  Speaker 5: the biggest sport in the world by far. It's not
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  Speaker 5: the biggest sport in America, so a lot of Americans
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  Speaker 5: don't have a full appreciation of soccer or football. But
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  Speaker 5: every other continent Africa, Asia, South America, Europe.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely it reigns supreme and real.
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  Speaker 5: He's a legend. He played for Manchester United. I believe
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  Speaker 5: you were the captain of the England national team.
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  Speaker 3: Right on. You got to say that. That's like I
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  Speaker 3: want a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. But what's even more impressive is that he's
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  Speaker 5: transitioned to become a superstar entrepreneur. So we actually in
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  Speaker 5: his facility right now, which he just told me. Upstairs
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  Speaker 5: is his sports agency, and the downstairs where we are
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  Speaker 5: now is media company.
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  Speaker 4: And he's an angel.
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  Speaker 5: Investor, he's a real estate investor, he's a sports commentator. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: anything else I'm missing, Great dad, Great dad, I got
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  Speaker 5: a foundation.
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  Speaker 7: That founding is important. He is obviously on the media side.
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  Speaker 7: He's won awards for his documentary.
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  Speaker 3: Uh and uh. He knows a little thing about cryptal currency.
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  Speaker 4: Not so much, but a little bit. First and foremost,
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  Speaker 4: thank you for joinings. Appreciate it. No, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: when I got the call from Sula to come on man,
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, you didn't have to introduce you guys.
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  Speaker 4: You sent me a couple of YouTube clips and stuff
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  Speaker 4: like this, and I know these guys. I've seen this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a pleasure for me to get on. Nah,
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. So it's importing what you guys do
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  Speaker 4: as well. I think just to just to add thank you,
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  Speaker 4: thank you.
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  Speaker 5: So I think this is going to be a very
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  Speaker 5: interesting conversation beco we can cover a lot of different stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but I want to start with sports because we do
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  Speaker 5: have a large listenership in America and a lot of
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  Speaker 5: the sports guys listen to us. So like a lot
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  Speaker 5: of NFL players, NBA players, and I think the reason
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  Speaker 5: why they's so tapped in is because they need some
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  Speaker 5: level of guidance, Like I don't know how it is here,
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  Speaker 5: but in the stage it's a statistic where like seventy
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  Speaker 5: percent of NFL players go bank f up five years
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  Speaker 5: after they get finished playing, like fifty percent of NBA
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  Speaker 5: players and they make millions of dollars and people are like, well,
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  Speaker 5: how does this happen? So I understand your career, you
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  Speaker 5: had made some mistakes when you were young, but then
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  Speaker 5: I think when you got to MA and you everything
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  Speaker 5: started to change, right, Is that correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think listen people from that customer, our backgrounds,
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  Speaker 4: like financial literally, it's just something that isn't there. Like
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  Speaker 4: even in the education and curriculum, we don't get taught
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  Speaker 4: like you get talk maths and you get taught English,
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  Speaker 4: you get talk science, but you don't get taught reality.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah in in in school, I don't know what it's
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  Speaker 4: like in America, but we don't get taught real like
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  Speaker 4: every day financial literacy. We don't get taught about mortgages, really,
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  Speaker 4: what the yield is, what rent means, what. We don't
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  Speaker 4: get taught none of that stuff like insurance that I
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  Speaker 4: bought my first car. I spent all the savings I
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  Speaker 4: had on the car, and then the man said, talk
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  Speaker 4: to me about insurance, and I said when he left, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's crazy. And the stories are the same, exactly what
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  Speaker 4: you say about America's happens here. And it's basically down
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  Speaker 4: to education and that our parents weren't people that manage
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  Speaker 4: big amounts of money. So then the people that you
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  Speaker 4: look up to and look to for guidance, information, experience,
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  Speaker 4: they don't have it. In that field. So you've got that,
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  Speaker 4: you've got to then look further a field. But then
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  Speaker 4: you're you're you're caught up in this mad life that's
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  Speaker 4: going so quick. You're becoming a big superstar overnight, the
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  Speaker 4: loads of money on the table, invited to every event,
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  Speaker 4: everybody loves you, and you're just like, I don't even
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  Speaker 4: know what to do. I don't know how, how, what where.
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  Speaker 4: It's just crazy, man. It's because it's so quick that
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  Speaker 4: before you know it, you look in your bank account
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  Speaker 4: and you're looking and thinking, raight, I'm meant to be
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  Speaker 4: People think I'm a millionaire, and I haven't really got
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  Speaker 4: any savings. I've bought my mom and dad big houses.
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  Speaker 4: I've bought myself a big apartment somewhere. I've got more
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  Speaker 4: cars than I need. I've got every item of clothing
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  Speaker 4: that I need that's new out every single month. And
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  Speaker 4: I meant to be a millionaire, but I ain't got
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  Speaker 4: If someone said to me, pull up a million pounds, now,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't when you're when you first start out, so
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  Speaker 4: but people would say he could easily pull up a
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  Speaker 4: million pound easy. And you're sitting there thinking, right, if
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  Speaker 4: you only knew and you're embarrassed and it's hard to
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  Speaker 4: then talk to people and then let people know that
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  Speaker 4: you're in that situation. So it's very difficult. So I
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  Speaker 4: understand them stories one percent.
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  Speaker 7: It sounds exactly about like the athletes where we're from.
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  Speaker 7: So is there a person at United or maybe prior
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  Speaker 7: to that, who you saw and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 7: that person's.
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  Speaker 3: Doing it the right way? Can you mentor me? Can
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  Speaker 3: you help me?
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  Speaker 7: Or are these just growing pins that you had to
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  Speaker 7: learn and then you kind of got the experience from
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  Speaker 7: the lessons you learned.
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  Speaker 4: You learn from experience. That's the way I learned from experience.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what as well, you learn from what
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  Speaker 4: you see as well. So now we're able to see
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  Speaker 4: so much more on social media, which will help educate.
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  Speaker 4: That's why what you guys are doing is so important
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  Speaker 4: because there will be loads of athletes around the world,
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  Speaker 4: not just athletes but people in general looking at what
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  Speaker 4: you guys are doing and going, oh, actually, there is
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  Speaker 4: a way and the right way and the wrong way,
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  Speaker 4: and I see both and I can work it out
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  Speaker 4: for myself based on the information that I'm getting, whereas
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  Speaker 4: before or social media, it's just trying to test trial error,
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  Speaker 4: trial error, and some people don't get back from their mirrors.
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  Speaker 4: So is that the reason why you started the sports agency? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: one of the reasons also because I just felt that
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  Speaker 4: there was a better way to manage players. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of the time you see agents and you hear a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the horror stories where players aren't getting all
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  Speaker 4: the level of information that they need. There's no transparency,
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  Speaker 4: there's no real clarity with situations, and you kind of
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  Speaker 4: go into a deal almost feeling and going, I don't
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  Speaker 4: even really know if this is the right deal. If
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  Speaker 4: I don't even because I don't know everything, and I
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  Speaker 4: didn't want that for the people that I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: be involved with, and I thought, you know what, let
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  Speaker 4: me just try and build something that would be that
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  Speaker 4: and it would kind of take away a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the questions that I had as an athlete, but a
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  Speaker 4: lot of questions mainly that I see from a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people that I played with, because you ask some
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  Speaker 4: of the question a lot of the time when I
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  Speaker 4: was growing up playing what other teams did you have
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  Speaker 4: to come for you? And I've already heard on the
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  Speaker 4: great vine off through other people that they had maybe
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  Speaker 4: six or seven teams that wanted to take them out.
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  Speaker 4: There was only one other club. And then you realize, okay,
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  Speaker 4: that was just the agents actually placed him where it
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  Speaker 4: benefited him rather than the player. And that happens like
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  Speaker 4: that's just one example. There's loads of different examples, and
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  Speaker 4: not knowing the financial implications of certain things that go on,
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  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden getting a knock on the
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  Speaker 4: door from the taxman. Actually that that that you've got
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  Speaker 4: to pay that. No, I thought that was my agent
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  Speaker 4: and to pay No, No, you got to pay that.
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  Speaker 4: How come you didn't tell me? I go, no, I
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  Speaker 4: did tell you, because your last gand so fast he
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  Speaker 4: just gets caught up and you go, actually, I've got
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  Speaker 4: the money, I just pay it. So these type of
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  Speaker 4: things happen all the time, and I wanted to create
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  Speaker 4: a safe place for an athlete to be able to
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  Speaker 4: come and go. You know what, I know when I
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  Speaker 4: go to sleep, or when the parents go to sleep
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  Speaker 4: with this athlete, they know that they're sitting there and going,
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  Speaker 4: I'm completely comfortable that these guys will go out and
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  Speaker 4: fight for my child or fight for me as an
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  Speaker 4: athlete with that big corporate company or with that big
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  Speaker 4: football club to make sure they get the best deal
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  Speaker 4: for me, not for them.
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  Speaker 7: So how is it being in your position as one
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  Speaker 7: of the greatest players in the country's ever seen, to
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  Speaker 7: actually trying to get clients.
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  Speaker 3: Does it become easier because one of the things you.
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  Speaker 7: Said earlier is like people for where I'm from, obviously,
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  Speaker 7: if there's people who are in these environments and they
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  Speaker 7: look at you as the guy who made it out,
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  Speaker 7: does it become an easier process for you to get
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  Speaker 7: clients or are you still fighting an uphill battle? Because
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  Speaker 7: I guess you went from player to now this form
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  Speaker 7: and there's people who are experience and saying I know
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  Speaker 7: more than him, even though he's just an athlete.
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  Speaker 4: You're always going to have fights. You're always not fight,
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  Speaker 4: but you're always going to have competitors. And the thing
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  Speaker 4: that the old school would probably lean honest the experience
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  Speaker 4: that they have, but that experience is different to my experience.
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  Speaker 4: I've got experience being the player, so I understand it
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  Speaker 4: from the players perspective so that I can actually try
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  Speaker 4: and give them the best situation that suits them based
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  Speaker 4: on what I've gone through. But listen, some people are
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  Speaker 4: going to pay people to be with them. So there's
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  Speaker 4: always going to be obstacles, but I just believe in transparency.
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  Speaker 4: I think I always look at it from a parent's
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  Speaker 4: point of view as well an athlete. Do I trust
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  Speaker 4: this guy? Do I really trust this guy to get
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  Speaker 4: me the best deal for me? Or is he going
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  Speaker 4: to at some point? Am I going to think he
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  Speaker 4: might go and do a deal that's going to suit
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  Speaker 4: him over me? And when you get to the bottom
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  Speaker 4: of that art question, I have confidence that that will
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  Speaker 4: normally come back around to me as being the right
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  Speaker 4: person to look after your child or look after you
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  Speaker 4: as an athlete. And as I said, you want to
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  Speaker 4: work with clean hearted people. You want to people that
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  Speaker 4: also and be confident in the fact that I want
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  Speaker 4: to be a success still, Like I've had a career
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  Speaker 4: which has been great for me, but I still want
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  Speaker 4: to be successful again. I have that driving determination every
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  Speaker 4: day to better myself and be and me being better
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  Speaker 4: means you're going to get a better deal, You're going
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  Speaker 4: to get a better service who's working with me one
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  Speaker 4: hundred percent?
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  Speaker 3: So it's like the new challenge. I was greening in
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  Speaker 3: this as but can I be as green in this one?
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  Speaker 4: Bro? That's it that's it for me. Like if I,
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  Speaker 4: if I, if I in twenty years, thirty years, what
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  Speaker 4: however long I'm going to live, maybe long, hopefully longer,
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  Speaker 4: finish off and retire and I people are still going
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  Speaker 4: the first thing they say, that's real. Third they play
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  Speaker 4: play football for me united and for this and that
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  Speaker 4: with I life, I said, I'll be disappointed in that.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be disappointed. I'll be honest. I want someone. I
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  Speaker 4: need something else that stands up alongside that. At least
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  Speaker 4: the people go, that's you know, he's part of that,
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  Speaker 4: or you helped create that, or if I that's that's
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  Speaker 4: my drive and that's why I get out of bed.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I work so hard. That's why my kids
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  Speaker 4: sometimes say. I know they're thinking, yeah, that he works
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  Speaker 4: a lot, man, but they need to see that example.
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  Speaker 4: But also I have to have that passion in me
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  Speaker 4: to be able to produce something else. That's why trying
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  Speaker 4: to create different businesses is a big part of my life.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 5: When did you get into the entrepreneurial space while even
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  Speaker 5: still playing? Or I have to retire?
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  Speaker 4: No, when I was playing, because I just always thought
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  Speaker 4: that when I retire, your name kind of fades quick.
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  Speaker 4: I've got traction now as a player, I need to
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  Speaker 4: utilize that. Albeit after I got to a point where
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  Speaker 4: I was experienced enough to be able to juggle both.
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't like seeing really when there's young kids
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  Speaker 4: doing it, when they haven't really mastered their craft. I
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  Speaker 4: find it hard to believe that you can do both.
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  Speaker 4: There may be that guy can you can, but I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a big challenge because there's so much to
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  Speaker 4: consider when you're a young player just finding your feet
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  Speaker 4: in that sport. To be able to then take your
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  Speaker 4: focus off of that completely and really put big energy
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  Speaker 4: somewhere else, I think it's difficult. But once I got
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  Speaker 4: to a position where I knew that I knew what
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  Speaker 4: I needed to do every day to be the best athlete,
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  Speaker 4: I felt very comfortable and then exploring other avenues and
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  Speaker 4: other ways of building stuff or being part of different businesses.
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  Speaker 4: And to be honest you that my United were happy.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't like it, no, because I understand it, like
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  Speaker 4: I'm an asset They've paid millions of pounds for they
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  Speaker 4: pay me good money as a wage. Why is my
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  Speaker 4: focus not one hundred percent there? I'll get that. But
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  Speaker 4: for me to be the best athlete I could be
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  Speaker 4: at that time. I needed to have the ability to
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  Speaker 4: spread my wings a little bit and sometimes take my
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  Speaker 4: mind off of football, and what better way to do
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  Speaker 4: it than to do business.
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  Speaker 7: I think that it's like a double ed sword though, right,
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  Speaker 7: because if you're actually creating a brand for yourself and
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  Speaker 7: you're playing for the team, the bigger you get, they
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  Speaker 7: still will remember that, like you said for now, that
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• 16:24
  Speaker 7: their brand too.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of interesting that they didn't really see.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: That's what I tried to tell them, that me being
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: like I created this magazine called five. It's now evolved
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: into like a YouTube channel and stuff like that, a
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: football community, but this was like when was it like
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: twelve twelve years ago something like that. It's like a
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: digital online magazine, like one of the first ones. One
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: loads of awards on Apple Store and stuff. But it
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: was it was like kind of marrying up football and
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: lifestyle and culture, fashion and music. So the first interview
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: was with like fifty cent Lebron was on there. We
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: spoke to Drake before he blew Roger Federer like big
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: massive sports stars, entertainments from the entertainment world, music and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: film and stuff. And the club was saying to me,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: what's going on?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Why are you doing this?
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: And I'm saying, guys, you don't get these type of
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: stars marrying up with the main United brand, like this
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: is only enhancing what you're doing. This is bringing more
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: eyebills because people will look at me talking to these
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: guys and go, where's he from. Oh, he's playing a
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: may Unite. It's more fans. But that was before that
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: cross pollinating of audiences is now a thing. It wasn't
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: a thing back then. No one could see it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Because that could I mean thinking about that, he said
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: fifty and Drake, he said Lebron like that might have
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: introduced him into this space and now he's an investor
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: in Arsenal.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have been perhaps spurred me and you.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Well, Drake told me that he was a May nighted fan.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: He came in all May United drip, we had all
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: May Night and everything. And then about a month later
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I saw himuch Chelsea and then after that I see
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: him somewhere else and I was like, bro, are you
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: a main United fan? Would die hard or not? But
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: to Drake tell us man, you may not need to
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: know man, But like cross pollinating audiences is a thing
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: you grow an audience. That's the only way you grow
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: an audience. Like huge is like speaking to different people
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: in different industries to help bring their numbers to you.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: And that's what I was trying to do at the time.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: But listen, we will go at different speeds.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: So as far as the media company you're talking about,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: the far can you expand upon that like where it
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: started and where it is today?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Well, we had the football agency which was which was
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: great and doing well, but we wanted to kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: have like a free sixty approach where we could kind
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: of manage the outside interests and the commercial elements that
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: the players come with, and like we have players you
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: want to expose themselves in different industries and do different things,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: then we wanted to be able to control that inside
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: because that just was like, if we're going to outsource
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: all the media stuff that we do or commercial opportunities
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that we're going to get for the players, someone else
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: is controlling almost the image and the destiny of a
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: player that's under our umbrella. And I just didn't feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: comfortable with that because their narrative they're trying to right
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: just might not fit with how we see it. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: to bring that control, we just we set this company
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: up to be able to play a part in doing that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: so not just for our own players, but we do
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: it for players who are other companies as well. We'll
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: have treatments and ideas and we'll go to other players
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: bring them in. Other companies will come to us and say,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: like do a consulting role where we have this project,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: can you go and get the talent for us? So
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: we do a little bit of everything.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: In that sense, it sounds like what we have as
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: the Players Tribune, you know, it's like the player you
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: get to hear that directly from the athletes, so no
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: one gets to shape their narrative. And then obviously that
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: brings more attention to it because it's like, oh, we
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: didn't know that about the player. Now we can say,
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: all right, well we'd want to do business with them.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: We hadn't known that before, especially like in others of
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: football where you don't really hear if you're not a superstar,
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: especially in the NFL, we don't see you number one
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: because you have a helmet on. And then most of
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: time we don't hear your voice if you're not the quarterback.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: And so that those type of outlets give a voice
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: to the athlete.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I love shout out to Brandon Marshall. It was just
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: with him a couple of weeks ago. And it also
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: sounds like another athlete that's doing a sports agency in
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: the media company.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah shut good god. It's come to the UK a
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: couple of times. Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: So you know, they got the sports agency arm with
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Rich Paul and Collect Sports, and then they got spring Hill,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: which is the media company to like the barbershop stuff
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: like that where they bring athletes in and they have
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: like conversations like that on interrupted.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Most of his name is doing it as well. Durant.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Ye, yep, he has the boardroom.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: What's his partners? I forgot his partner?
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Uh, it's actually rich Finement is his agent. His agent
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: is his partner.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's needed because I feel like for a
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: long time athlete, it was just well, you.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Know, well sorry to intrubt. Why why did you Why
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: do you think all these big athletes in the game
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: now go with rich Pool and Clutch bigger relate. It's
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: relatable because they trust Lebron. They trust Lebron. Lebron's got
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: an image to protect that he isn't going to lowble
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: or do something that's just going to be crazy out
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: there that's going to affect this young talent that comes
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: in the dog because he's got an image and a
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: brand to protect. But there's that there's a lot of
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: these other agents who are behind that curtain that you
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: don't see their face, so they can afford to do
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: mad moves and do mad stuff knowing that. Listen, if
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: something comes out negative about me or this, you don't
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: see me, no one knows me. Got no image to protect.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And he's still going to the supermarket.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: And exactly I've never actually participated in the sport anything.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like Michael Jordan's and in brand Jordan.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: That's how he's able to sign a because they all
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: looked up to Michael Jordan the whole himself, who's not
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: going to sign the team Jordan's.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Pieces that were actually watching it happen like and so
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: they look at it now it's more than an athlete.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: That's their tag Frace, but it is more than an athlete.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: He's in space jam, he has the movie production. These
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: guys are looking at it like I want to do
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: that too.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: And whatever he's doing, he's bringing that. Bringing that opens
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: the door for everyone come under after that. That's the
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: whole ethos of what we do. Like I've done documentaries,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I've been involved in making different types of films. I've
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: been involved in with fifty actually one of the films
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: even that there's so many other fashion and whatnot like them.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Doors have been opened, and like that's why I always thinking,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: if you're a certain level, you've got leverage, you've got
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: to use that to help impact other people. And that's
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: what that's the only thing I try and do is
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: that if I've opened the door, that's been very hard
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: to get through for people before me. And I've managed
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: to open that door. Why am I going to close
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: that door behind me? I want to even open for
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: someone else who looks like me, who's from a background
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: like me, People that come from our type of background.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: They need to come through that door with me. But
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: someone's got to open it. What you do with We're done?
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: A film? Was it called dead Man running? Didn't do
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: that well? Man, but fifty were sharp? He's acting Withn't
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: that sharp? I'm joking now, but you know what I
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: liked about him? You could see the energy man. The
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: energy this guy had. It was like it's just it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: inspiring because like he's just again the background he's come from,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the hunger which he shows constantly, the way he's reinvented
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: himself again in a different industry. Again he conquered music
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: and or in one way now he's conquering that the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: making serious like he is on different networks and like
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: he's basically made a network almost. So it's just like
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: crazy to think that somebody who came out in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: club has gone and done that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, so let me ask you this. You
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: seem like everything you do is very strategic. You're also
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: a sports commentator. What was the idea with being a
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: sports commentator. Was that done to further your brand or
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: you just felt that was something that would be a
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: good way to, you know, keep your name going, or
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: you just genuinely just enjoy it like it was it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: First of all, I just love football, so it was
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: just a natural progression to be in the game. I
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: really wanted to be a manager when I was playing,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: but then life circumstances changed and so I had to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: kind of just put that to one side and take
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that away out of the equation. So being a football
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: pundit commentator was I'd be doing that in my house
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: with my friends anyway. I'd be in the in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: in the bar with my or the pub with my
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: friends talking about the game. So why not go to
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: the games? Why not be paid for it and still
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: keep your name relevant within the sport that you love.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: And I think it helps also with the business the
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: businesses that I've got. It supports that as well. You
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: can almost be part of narratives that are coming out
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: in the game, and the game's given me so much,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: why would I just walk away?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Do you ever have to call a game that your
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: client is playing in.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, also friends or your friends, like a lot of
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: my friends are people. A lot of the players now
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: that are playing I've had a played against or with,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: and that can be.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: I can imagine because like we we know like guys
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: like Stephen Ay, Yeah, but he's not he doesn't have
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: an agency where his players playing like it's in your
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: best interest shutting sharp, shouting a sharp another guy, right,
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: But they're not agents right like you are. And your
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: client is on the field, on the pitch like that,
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: and I mean, obviously he's in the best interest to
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: have them perform well. You don't want a negative connotation
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: around them. So how do you How do you manage that?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I think I based a lot more I base my
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: relationship with the players that we manage on honesty. So
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say anything on the TV that
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I would not say to their face or haven't said
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: to their face with the same type of energy. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I think the players have always appreciated that. Now, if
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: a player plays really well, I'm not going to go
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: crazy about it. I'm not going to go overboard. I'll
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: be the same as which I would be of a
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: player who I don't manage. But likewise, if a player
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: plays poorly or makes a big mistake, I'm not going
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: to go overboard and go crazy about like I wouldn't
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: go of any plant. I just state the obvious and
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: the fact. Listen, he's made a mistakes. I want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: learn from that, and you move on. But I won't
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: be sitting there giving them favors and trying to talk
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: them up. When I talked, I wouldn't be looking to
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: talk them up above their station, because I just you
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: got to keep some type of integrity.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: So I was anging about real estate. You are a
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: real estate investor. When did you get turned on to?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: How did that start? As far as your real estate career?
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Too late for my liking, Like, you know what, I've
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: been lucky that I've met some good people earlier in
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: my career. I got stung a lot with properties, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I was buying stuff kind of off plan, not looking
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: at the paperwork, not looking at the small print, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, a year or two down
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: the line, when it's actually not what it said it
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: was going to be, or the yield isn't what it
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: said it was going to be, or so again living
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: by learning by mistakes. And then I met some good people,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: people with developers, people who get to know about certain
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: things in the industry more like in terms of pace
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: quicker and getting to the punch earlier. And then you
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: just start to build and you build up your own portfolio,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: and it's more about for me, just having that mix
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: of different types of property commercial, residential, not all in
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: one place. Like I used to think, oh, buy loads
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: in this one area, and it's like, if that area, thanks,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you are banging trouble. So that's just diversifying the portfolio
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: the right way and just having the right people around you.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: And I think that's a lot of the way a
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: lot of the players fall down is that we end
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: up employing the wrong people who look like they know
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: everything but actually don't have your best interests at heart.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And like I always go back to this with the
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: management or with people I do businesses. Do I trust
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: this guy, because you've got to go with the gut
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: feeling because normally I've always felt that the people that
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I weren't sure about and had a bad gut feeling
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: about at the beginning, they always end up turning sour.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: So now I don't mess about with that. Once I
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: get that feeding, whether I like them or not, I
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: just say, business wise, we can go for a drink
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: or dinner or whatever, but business let's just leave it
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and keep it moving something else.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, majority of the portfolio is invested in the UK
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: or the other country.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I got burned when I invested in I don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: want to name the countries. I invested in the country
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: and like put money down, loads of people that I
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: know put money down, and then the rules in the
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: country change and we lost a good bit of money.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll just that just burnt me and I
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: ain't going to get burnt again. Is it like multi
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: family own? Is it flat? Is it commercial buildings? No?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Like commercial that you rent out, yeah, which you get
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: good tenants in, which has been good. They yield decent money.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: But it's long term leaseholders which are great. But also
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: the residentials, like you buy it and you kind of
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: get you yield off of them with rent. But also
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I think as well that social holising was a good
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: thing for me, big thing for me. I think social housing.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Do you have that in America? Socializing the public housing?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Public housing?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so you do
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: different stuff, and you can work with governments, and you
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: can work with local councils and just giving people an
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: opportunity to get on the property that at a lower rate.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Obviously it's good for because it's long term leases as well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and long term stuff that you do with the councils.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: But you're trying to help people as well, which engine
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: in the end helps you as well as a business.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: But I don't think there's any better way to do
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: business and help someone else help yourself as well in
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: terms of just from a pure business standpoint. Yeah, we
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: were just talking.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: We just had an episode about that in the States,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Like it's called like government housing and they get vouchers.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: And that's one good thing about having that is that
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: you don't have to work the rent being paid because
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: the government's paying the rent. So's as good for a
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: landlord as long as you know you have a selection
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: process in place. So okay, So so you're doing all
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: of this stuff, and we didn't even talk about the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: NFTs and all that. How do you How are you
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: managing everything? Because being a sports commentator can be like
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: a full time gig within itself, and then you got
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: the media side. You're a real estate investor, you're family man,
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: you got the sports agency. How are you managing all
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: of this at the same time.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Man, my mom, I got a pa
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: in it. So people without a PA and a wife,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I'll be under this table because it's just it's a
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: lot to do. But when you're passionate about stuff, it
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem like a lot. That's what I found. Like
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the stuff does hard work and tears you up in
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: your mind and leaves you feeling really mentally tired, physically drained.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Is the stuff that you don't care about a lot
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: of the time. So I try and kind of I'm
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: in the process actually now trying to cleanse myself of
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the stuff that I don't have any passion for and
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: just sticking with the stuff that I have most passion for.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: And the stuff we've talked about is that also I'm
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: involved in. I like, I love investing as well. I've
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: got to be honest, I've investing in terms of my
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: time to take equity or through financial and especially in
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: tech startups. I love it. And I was lucky. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: met a guy, a guy called sork Client shout out
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Sorklian one of the best investors in Europe is that,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: if not the best, at different levels, different stages. He
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: had a thing that he'd done and it was just
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: at that point in that moment. Then my previous wife
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: died at the time, and I was kind of looking
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: for something in my life to kind of just feel
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: tired and keep in mind occupied. And I met this
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: guy at a website where I was talking actually, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: he was there and he said, listen, coming on a Monday.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: We do like a like a like a Dragon's then,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: like a shark tank type thing where we have people
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: come and pitch us ideas and stuff, and we invest or.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: We help them set up the business and try and
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: amplify what they do. And I used to go. I
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: went in there for about eighteen months. I was going
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: in there on and off, and I was just just
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: meeting new people in this guy man, his perspective on
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: everything life or business all just kind of just was like, well,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: this guy's from a different planet. He's like an alien man,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: just see things differently. Good heart, good energy. And then
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I've invested in a few things that we've done with him.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I've invested with other people, but through him, I started
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: to understand the space more. Yeah you made some of
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: them didn't do well, but the ones that do well
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: are just crazy. So it's just been a great experience
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: and just to go into a new life, new world,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: meet new people, and just be part of creating new
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: like wonderful businesses that kind of a change in certain industries,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: which is just it's just crazy.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: The same format you're getting into these these tech companies
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: in the early seed rounds with the aspiration of its
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: own public one day and wants to all buy out,
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: all buyout and then obviously you do well.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: You stage driving.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: That the angel n VC world is interesting.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: I want to get a lot of guys in America
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: like Nass he's heavy and that got in coin base,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: got in ring, got in pill pack, he smashed it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a hell of a run.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: So what you said you was educated, Like what did
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: you learn? What did you learn to help you actually
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: have a better education, because I don't think people still
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: fully understand that they know Angel Investing. You invest in
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: a company and they might have heard about seed rounds,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: but that's probably it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Like what did you learn that really have a good understanding? Okay,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I know how this works. I think one of the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: best that you get so many ideas, so on a Monday,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: you might get ten opportunities that present them else And
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: when I was first going, I was thinking, oh, every
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: idea sounded amazing, like whoa that Yeah, that's oh my god,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's unbelievable, that's great, that's great. And then I
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: quickly realized that it's not about the idea necessarily, it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: about the people who's behind the idea. You're investing in
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: that person to execute on that business. So like put
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: the what been because a lot of the best ones
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: that I've invested in are boring that I would they
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: don't excite me, but the people behind it are trusting
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: that person. I believe in that person. Actually the idea
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: is a good idea, but I believe he can actually
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: pull through this and do what he's saying if he
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: has the right resources around him and so understanding that
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: you can't get emotionally attached and caught up with like
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: it's a great idea, this is going to be brilliant,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: this is this is exciting, it looks looks sexy, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: that's just got a guy out the window. But it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: hard to do that I mean, because you actually don't
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: start thinking, I'm an investor, man, this idea, I'm going
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: to have to put it. So and if I just
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: if I talk to that guy to come in as well,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you realize, actually, the guy
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: who's running that good idea is ship like, he ain't
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: got a clue what he's doing. You don't know what
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: he's saying, what he's doing. He actually's sucking up my
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: money as well. So then you start becoming actually, this
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: is more business. Take all that excitement out of it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And then once I started doing that, Listen, you're still
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: going to make mistakes. Listen, all the good ones we
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: hear about, even Nas was invested in. I'm sure there's
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: a load of them behind that are found and then
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: he'll probably tell you that, but they're not publicized. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: everyone thinks everything you do is a hit, where it's not.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: So it is a It is a crazy business, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: there's so many talented people out there. But the big
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: thing for me, and we were talking about this before
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: he came on, but it's just that it's I want
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: to be part of something that gives people that come
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: from our culture, our background and opportunity to see this like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: not at the last stage where there's no room for
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: big margins. I wanted them to get where actually you
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of time you come in and actually,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: you know what, can you just induce this for us?
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to induce man, I don't want equickly,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I'll just give me, yeah, I do. I want to
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: keep you ex.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: I would rather take everything in equity, or depends where
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: you are in life. You might want to take half,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: half and half. But I don't want to really talk
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: unless I'll get some equity. So but it's it's it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: about having an understanding and experience. And I think a
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: lot of the young players, but it's changing more now
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: because they're seeing shows like yours. They're seeing I am
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: athlete who talk about this type of this type of stuff.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Actually it ain't all about and that's where Jordan set
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: the blueprint in that and then then from what I
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: gather they say it's one of the it's a great deal,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: but it's a bad deal at the same time. Yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: yeah for them what he for what he brought to
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the team, all the private Yeah, the private jets. Key's
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: buying that. Yeah, down to them.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Join thirty percent of it and the other seventies ninety.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that's why Easy Situation is so unique.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Hens a hundred percent of the Easy brand, even though
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: it's distributed to the ideas. But you know, it's I
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: think every generation learns, you know what I'm saying that
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: that's the benefit of it, And especially now with social
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: media and people being vocal about it, it's like it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: not hidden.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: You can actually see the mistakes.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, this person made this mistake, so I know, going
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: to forward, I can't make that mistake, you know, do
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: it this way. But let's talk about the NFTs because
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: I know that that's something that you was passionate about
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: as well. How do you feel about the NFT space
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: because a lot of people feel like it's a bubble,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: it's going to crash. I don't necessarily feel like it's
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: a bubble, but I kind of feel like it's very
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: similar to the early dot com or even.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Crypto a few years ago.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: With it probably will come back down because there's a
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: lot of projects that's not really worth anything. But the
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: NFT space is here, here to stay. So what's your
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: thoughts before I ask you specific questions, like, what's your
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: thoughts on broad range the NFT space right now? Because
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: this is on fire right now. Yeah, I think it's
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: not going nowhere. I think it's like it's like like
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: you said, the dot Com boom. Everyone at the time
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: was saying, no, this is a myth. This is going
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: to be here.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Come today, you come tomorrow like it's gonna I think
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: NFTs will be here because it gives the creators the
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: artist's power again, so that I don't think that will
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: be relinquished. It's just that I think probably ninety eight,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: ninety five, even more ninety eight percent of the stuff
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: that you see coming out today will probably be gone
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: and there'll be more blue chip. The strong ones of
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: today I think will stay and grow, but there'll be
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of ship and you just got to
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: just distinguish what you believe is back the right horse.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: That's what I said, it's back in the right horse. Right,
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: even though there's a dot com, there was a dot
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: com bubble, there was still and that was on in there.
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: You're still a yeahoo in there, right, there was still
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: an eBay in there.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeh's a bad example.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Well it's still here Google. It's not excite dot com right,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the yeah, who's still here? We can't we can't knock it.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: It's not excite.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: We know that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: And a bunch of others that we don't even see anymore,
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: aol like a bunch of those that we don't see anymore.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: So it's about just finding the right one.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: But who introduced you to it or did this become
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: something again that you just kind of found it interesting
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: and said, let me study this because this is going
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: to be in the way.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: I think like everybody else, I just was on social
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: media and then you start you go to links and
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: you look at stuff, you research, you look at different
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: industries that are taking it on. Is it Kings of
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Leon who'd done it with want to left with a
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: song or an album? Yeah? And then all of a
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: sudden you see Nike buying a lab like and it's
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: just like added that's now going in the space. I
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: think Guccia negotiating or something. You just see it's like snowballing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You think, how can I not get interested in this?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: And then opportunities start presenting themselves and you think, let
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: me have a little look to what's going on, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: oh that done? Okay, that was okay. And I just
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: don't think it's a space that's going to go anywhere.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: And I think there's there's I think regulations might change
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: around it a little bit and kind of tighten things
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: up to a certain extent, but I don't see it
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: being something that can be deleted. I think it's too
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: there's too much power for the creators and that the
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: musicians and different people that mean something that can actually
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: benefit from this for it to be able to go anywhere.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Do you have a n f T. Yeah, I've got
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: a couple of n f t's I've got. You know
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: what it's. It's more about like I got involved in
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: a company called Sora, which is basically an n FT company,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: which is basically like in America, is it top Shot?
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Top Shot? So it's like that but for football, for
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: our football, for soccer, And as soon as I heard
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: the idea, I just said, WHOA like you can trade players.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: You can buy a part of a player that you
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: feel like you could start at this level, but you're
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: back in that he's going to grow, and all of
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: a sudden you get the growth and like it's I did, actually,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: be honest, I didn't completely understand it, but I believed
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: in the team behind it and that and these guys
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: and the influence of the guy I mentioned Saul before
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: he said, real, I'm grinding this as well, and I
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: was like, you know what, I've got a guy as well.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Companies has gone from I think late hundreds to two hundreds.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Now it's like companies doing well, doing well.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: So it is a similar in the set of tap shot,
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: where it's highlighted the players and then you can have
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: ownership of the highlights or something a little difficult.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: It's more, it's more more, it's just the actual player.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: It's like a picture of the player and that's it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: But that's something that will be introduced at some point,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I'm sure. But there's a lot of regulations, especially with football,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: with the rights of the club team. Yeah, like the
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Premier League will own the rights for they sell the
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: rights obviously to like the big companies that we have,
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: BT and sky Sports here and Amazon, so the actual
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: highlight reels and stuff like that. It's quite a complex situation.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: So the NBA and the NFL do it very different,
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: quite differently, I think a little bit a few sports questions.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: Well, first, so being in America, we only release, we
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: don't really have a full grasp of what goes on overseas.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: We just see, like we just hear reports and we
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: just see things. One thing that was very disturbing that
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: we were seeing and it's kind of an ongoing thing
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: in different countries throughout Europe, is the racism at football
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: games of matches you played obviously for a very long
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: time at the highest level. What's your thoughts on that?
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: And how is it as bad as it looks? Because
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: it looked like the brother I think it was in France,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: and then I think even Jay Z was gonna invest, well,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: he's gonna invest in a team out here, but then
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: he pulled back when he when he did some more research.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Some long story short, how is it? How is it
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: racism here?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm actually shooting a documentary about it at the moment,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: so which is going to be real good and it
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: will be very insightful, especially like for guys overseas like
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: yourselves to kind of understand the culture here very different.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: It's it's toxic. Social media plays a big part in
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: that in facilitating and escalating racists and that ignorant behavior,
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: but discrimination of all forms. Really, I think a good
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: case is to three England players who were black, black
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: guys rushed for Sancho and the three young English players
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: like young like young English boys, all black, mister penalty.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: And the mad thing about it is that the majority
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: of the people in the stands in that day, in
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: the stadium or at home watching, before they even stepped
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: up to take the penalties, all were saying to themselves,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: they said it to someone who was with them, or
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: they thought if they missed, man, they're going to get abuse. Yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: if these guys miss they're going to get racially abused,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: and and it played out like that, so it was
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: no surprise when it happened. It's terrible. It's disgusting to
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: think that today's we're still seeing this stuff and still
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: having to argue and fight because he's tiring man having
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: to answer these questions on race all the time. It's
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: been going on for so many years. When I was
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: a kid that was going on. They see it's getting
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: worse now because of social media and the ability to
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: really touch people and get to people direct. So it's yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a nightmare, really, But I don't
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: think the powers that be, the stakeholders in our game
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: at least do enough. And I've been interested to hear
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: what you guys say about like we look at the NBA,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: but I love watching the NBA and the way that
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: you the players in the NBA kind of came together
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: and they set out a game or weekend one of
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: the games that's never happened here, that would never happen
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: here right now. Should it happen? I think so at
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: some point, if stuff continues the way it continues going,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: can it happen? I don't know, because the way that
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the NBA seems correct if I'm wrong, it just seems
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: like a more of a tight knitted players union players group.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: They have more power, They have power, and they utilize
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: that power in positive ways to get some sort of
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: change or shift in mindset or regulations and in the system.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: But here it's not as tight kit. It's not and
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: it's just finding a way of helping that. And I'm
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: going to LA actually soon to hopefully meet some NBA
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: players or some decision makers just to find out a
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: bit more detail in how they do that, to bring
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: that kind of information back to kind of say to
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: look like this is potentially that I don't know it.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: It's it's so that's what we were talking about before.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: It's funny like in America, shit happens, and like England
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: we follow. In the UK and Europe we follow probably three, four,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: five years, sometimes ten years later. Because you guys have
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know why, it's just it's just in a
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: lot of the stuff that that that just happens, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: it's the way and I feel with I'm not saying
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: you guys have got the racism issue down or you've
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: got it perfect, but there's certain things that you guys
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: have done that I feel that where we could learn from.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the NBA has done a great job
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: with the having like real control.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: The NFL is still not really there.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: And that's why even with that kneeling situation with Colin Kaepernick,
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: and it's still the owners still have a lot more
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: control in the NFL, but the NBA.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: It's more of a league.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: It's more of a players league, and it's been that
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: way for a long time. Even in the the CBA,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: where they got like fifty one percent of the revenue,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: like they get more of the revenue.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: They just associated that it was like fifty five forty five.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: So it's maybe you can learn the dynamics of that
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: and see how to play. It's because it's it's very
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: interesting because you can see like which leagues have the
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: power like that, you can see the stark contrast between
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: the NBA and the NFL from a lot of stuff
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: that happens that the NFL would never let happen.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: The premier league don't get no power. Players ain't got
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: no power.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: It's like that is like you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Get paid to play. Be quiet. That's it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: So when the when the young gentleman, because everything you're
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: saying is one hundred percent you As I'm watching this,
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: like these guys got subbed into the kicks, and I'm like,
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: I hope they make it for their sake, I hope
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: they make it. But when they didn't and there was
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: turn on from everything that was going around them. Is
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: this where you step in as a senior statesman to
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: the national team and saying I need to go talk
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: to these guys.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you reach out, man, you reach out, and I
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: know that a couple of the guys that look after
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: these boys too as well, and you speak and it's
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: like it's difficult for a man because it can be
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: a lonely place as much as they've got huge followings
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: on social media and the future of the national team there,
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: the future of the football in this country. And it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: like one minute before that they were cheering these guys
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, now there's the hate
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: that's being spilled on these guys. It's just like you
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: just can't believe how it can go from one way
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: situation to another that quick. But yeah, and I think
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's about championing these boys. Like you can
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: speak up, you can miss a penalty, it's fine, still
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: walk with your head because you're doing something that no
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: one really gets a chance to do. And you've you've
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: you've done really well to get where you are. You
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: guys are champions really, so just continue And I think
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: it's about just reinforcing that to these guys. But it's difficult,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: and I think that that the powers that be the
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: stakeholders in the game need to make people on social
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: media or the social media companies accountable for really leaving
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: the players in a position where their mental health is
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: really at stake. When you get these type of situations.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: It's extremely difficult situation to play, I mean, because it's
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: like the thing that's shocked us is not the racism part,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: because America is built on racism, so we're not We're
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: used to that, but just the vocalness of it, like
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: you'll never see bro and man's not coming up to
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: your face here and going to right black this black.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: But on social media, the energies like almost like I
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: could say what I want, what it is. I can
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: say what I want because there's gonna be no repercussions,
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be no I ain't going I'm not going
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: to jail. No one's gonna come and get me not
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: there's no police going to come to my door. So
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: I can say what I want. I don't know how
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: it can be like that, Yeah, yeah, hopefully hopefully, you know.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you change it, but it is
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: something that, like I said, just from an observer, it's
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: just disturbing, like even like to see like fans chanting
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: racial spurs, like you'll never see that in the States,
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: and you'll never see like people throwing bananas on the
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: field like they that just happened, you know what I mean.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: It's just it's beIN Gano for years, like so it
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: hasn't changed obviously, Like it went quiet for a while,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: but then all of a sudden, a few racist situations
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: pop up and you're like, whoa, Actually it was just
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: swept under the carpet because it's there. Speaking of sports
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: switching topics, how do you feel about the metaverse? Because
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: I feel I personally feel like have you ever tried
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: the oculus for Facebook?
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you tried it? What you experience you like it?
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: It takes them getting used to man. I feel like
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: especially like sports.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Like boxing, basketball, probably even football as well. I feel
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: like that's the future of metaverse, Like if you can
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: put oculus glasses on and be like right there in
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: the action, Like to me, as a sports fan, I
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: would pay for that. So I'm interested because like in
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: the in the States, uh, the NBA is moving heavy
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: into the metaverse, Like they just did something All Star
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: Weekend where the commissioner was talking to a hologram and
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: the Brooklyn Nets was the first NBA team to broadcast
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: games in the metaverse.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: So netaverse they call it. They're actively moving into that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's happening here, not yet, but
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: how do you how do you feel about that, Listen.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I think that the landscape change is so quick in tech,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: and I just think that it's that that's something that
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: is definitely coming. Like you, like I said before, you
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: see so many these big companies that are already invested
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: in the metaverse that they've already been buying space. They're
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: already saying we're going to be coming in that space
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: right now. So I think as a matter of time,
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: I think the media, the media companies like in this country,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: like BT, like Sky, like Amazon, that I know there's
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: gonna be plans to be going into that area. Football clubs,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I definitely see it, but I think by tradition, football
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: clubs are very, very skeptical of new things, old school,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: and they'll wait to see the Brooklyn Nets, the NFL,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: the NBA trial and error and then going after that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I think I don't see it happening like immediate, but
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: but that's just because of the culture that's here because
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: football is quite an old school It's got old school
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: traits and they a lot of people really cling onto that,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: and it's part of what makes football special as well.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: So to to bring new elements to the game, like
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: we've only just got var and replays to help with
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: refereeing decisions like in the NFL. How long you've been
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: doing that, Yeah, I mean long time. We're exactly like
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: where we're probably twenty twenty five years behind in that sense.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: That's and that's that is tech and essentially, so I
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: feel we'll be definitely coming up behind you guys at
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: some point.
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: One of the things that you talked about in the
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: media companies that you're shooting the documentaries, but I think
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: what kind of gets overlooked is that you actually have
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: autobiographies these book deals. Was that something that you in
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: your mind you knew you wanted to get your story
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: out to that format or with somebody like, hey, this
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: would be good for you as well.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's also about controlling your narrative as well,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: because I think a lot of things are said about
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: players and athletes over the years that like are they
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: really true? A lot of mate, a lot of them
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: aren't true and being able to control that. I think
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: with book deals, I think it's it's because a lot
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: of books do get written about certain players, but a
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: lot of time the player hasn't actually agreed to it
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: and been a part of the process. So to be
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: able to control that and be a part of that
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: is I think important for players if they if they
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: desire and want is out there for you to write
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: a book. But also, like with the documentaries that I've
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: done that are about my life and about certain aspects
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: of my life, a lot of it is to help
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: other people that what I went through with my wife
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: and my mum in quick succession, both passing away my
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: previous wife talking about that as a man and kind
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: of people always look at that masculine, that that machoism
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: that comes with men. Sometimes you have to be vulnerable
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: at times and showing emotion at times. I think there's
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: a lot of people out there that are probably unaware
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: of as to how that can benefit you when you're
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: going through really bad and downtimes. And I think just
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: showcasing that on a documentary for people to see it
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: and visualize it, I think can be powerful and can
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: change people's kind of fortunes a lot of the time. Yeah,
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Mental health extremely important, extremely important, especially for me, especially
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: for black men for sure.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: Man feelings not cool? Yeah cool? Yeah. Music.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: I understand you your big music enthusiasts too. I love music, man,
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: I love music.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: How did you? I was just playing some big l
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: actually just introduced one of the guys.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: He's just like, I don't I don't know this guy knows.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: So what's your what's your vibe? Because I've been getting
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: educated on music in the U K. And I already
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: know like the drill music is heavy right now, and
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: then drill music is heavy in New York and its influence.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: But then he was telling me that there's a music
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: that pre pre dates drill music, grime scene, the grime scene,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: and then of course we know about scat that, we
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: know about gigs the national and we're gonna find it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: And what's my guy now Central City to it. I
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: feel like you guys in the culture right back to it.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: So yeah, so what's the what's the vibe in lending
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: like as far as what's your musical taste that you
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: grew up on and what's like what's happening now that
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: you did, you like what I grew up on was.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Like, like my dad was big music that I used
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: to have vinyl along one wall in the house, so
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: we used to go out. I used to just put
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: like if he ever found out if I was a kid,
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I don't known about it, but we used to go
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: to Sneak and just put like the Violet, Marvin Gay
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that, old school Barry White and stuff,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and then Temptations. And then as I got older, I
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: was just like I loved R and B, New Jack
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: swing hip hop. I love that as a kid, like Nas.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: I used to love Nars when I was young, love
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: n Nas. But then like all Joe to see that
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: type of H Town and stuff like that, you know,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: the moments you need in.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Your life, the moments I will cry.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Forever my lady and H Town. So like all that
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: type of stuff, jagged the exactly all them to have that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: That's that was, like I said, Donnelle Jones, like he
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: actually sang up my birthday when I was younger. Yeah,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, it was. It was cool. So
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: all all that type of stuff. And then obviously as
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: you get like reggae has been a huge influence on
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: my life, Like raggar reggae, like that Barty Killer all
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: that I love, that's my probably go to Garnet Silk
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: people like that. But then you've got like that in England,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: that's the thing. There was like jungle house grime and
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: then it's like obviously now you've got drill. But the
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: grime stuff was like when I was younger and I
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: was out and I was about it, like with like
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: you know, don't know if you know that Cano, Dizzy, Rascal, Skeptic, Jammy,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: all them boys were coming out that you were. Now
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: like they're like part of the culture, deep in the
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: culture and set the standard and set everything for the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: young guys now to come and they're just like they've
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: just killed it. All these young daw rappers and all
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: these other artists now are doing hip hop and rap.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: They're just they're actually making proper money, whereas the guys
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: before in their early days, it was difficult for them
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: to make money and that the system wouldn't really allow it.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: It wasn't as accepting. You look at the charts now,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: afro Beats even you heard some afro beats yea, yeah,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: he's in Nigeria. We interviewed David a wicked nice guy.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: He's a United fan. Yea good guy.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Chelsea the other day took a picture he was in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: my DMS. Like wrong, wrong, I thought, Arsenal.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Arsenal, Yeah, yeah, you know that's that's good. But no,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: like all that type of music, I love like and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: I just love music in general. It's like, I'm not
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: too like, oh, I only listened to this music and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: I hate that time. I just love good music and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: hip hop like is a massive, especially the older hip hop.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: I'm more like, I like a lot of new stuff.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: But nineties and early two grew up in the same time. Yeah,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: so yeah, Biggie like big girl played this to these
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: young guys who don't understand. Man, they don't get the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: same vibes we got.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: We gotta take them New York real quick.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: I gotta do this from from a sports standpoint because
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: in America, probably one of the two, two of the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: three most famous people that we knew it was David
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: Beckham and obviously Christian Ronaldo.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: He's been around both.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: What has that been like watching like that level of like,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: I guess I don't even know what the level.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: You know, do you know a mad thing. I'm not
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: like dropping names here. I went to say with David
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: David Beckham, whenever you turned up anywhere with Becks, it
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: was like it was like the Beatles to turn up.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: It was just like it was just a crazy experience.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: The hysteria that follows that guy is just mad. Like
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: he would turn a whole room upside down. From the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: chicks to the old men to the kids, They're all
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: going upside down to get near and get a picture
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: of him. And you know what, it's mad because I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: should just sometimes step back. Like I remember I was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: at a fashion show in Paris once and Usher was there,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: and I've done some stuff with Usher years ago. He
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: was there and we were talking and Bex was there
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: doing his thing, and obviously loads of people was around
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: him going crazy, and he went to me, don't don't you,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: don't you get involved and stuff like that. So I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: just said to me, I said, bro, I just like,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: you've got to let him do what he's gonna do. Man,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I don't want to get caught up and all that stuff.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: It's that crazy, like and he's at a fashion show
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: with a listers everywhere, and they're going nuts from and
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: he retired years ago. It's crazy. And then you've got
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Natte Cristiano Ronaldo, who is just like another one's like
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: he flipped the game on its head in terms of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: like numbers now that numbers on Instagram, and then everyone
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: looks at who's the biggest on Instagram and and probably
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: everyone in America would never really know that he's the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: biggest guy on Instagram.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Peop were just having this conversation yesterday and we were
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: saying that somebody, one of our friends said that anywhere
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: he goes in the world, people is going to know
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: who he is. And I'm like, nah, not really, because
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of people in America, not really.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Anywhere outside of America he goes in the world. Everyone
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: that I don't think there's a place he goes in
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: the world outside of America. Listen, there's gonna be states
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: in America that people now, but when he turns up,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: there will be there's everywhere he will go. Someone but
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: the hysteria. If you were saying who gets more craziness
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: around him, I'd say Christiano. Wow, you were saying him
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: versus Lebron And I'm saying anywhere outside of America, Christiano's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: easy easy, Like, you know, the American sports stars like
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: they are fucking huge. They are like it's crazy, and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: you look at it and the amount of money the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: ones nowadays are making even years ago, but they amount
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: of money they're making. And for all of that, outside
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: of America, they can't compete with the top five, top
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: maybe top ten football players in the world in terms
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: of eyeballs and saying and hysteria. It's very different.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: As I said, even like from an Instagram standpoint, it's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: not even close.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Bro neymar not even am Messi out of here? And
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: the money pog bar and is my guy money money? Christiano?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: I mean Floyd he might be past them now, Floyd
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: Billionaire boys Club.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: They're the Billionaire boys Club. Messi is right there. He's
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: on it with number one like he was he had
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: he got to it.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, Tiger Michael and Tiger bron Christiano Messi, they're
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: right there and they I meant.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I think the difference is is the endorsement deals in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: America are different, right, They're crazy.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: They get these liars like the naked contract, They're crazy.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: One thing that mess before we grap I have this
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: question because I took a lik in the Neymark and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I was following his career and I remember when he
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: signed some deal it was crazy and they had to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: pay like twenty million year.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Olds to transfer fee fee? What is the what's can
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: you explain that? So that in England, say a player
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: is signs a five year deal. Anytime in that five
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: years a club can approach the club who owns the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: player and say we want that player, and the club
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: who owns that player will say, okay, if you want him,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: we value him a one hundred million pounds. If you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: want him, you can buy him and then you take
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: his contract, you renegotiate his personal contract, but you've got
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: to pay one hundred million pounds and you get to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: take the player to the club. You paid one hundred
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: million pounds from club to club. Then the player then
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: negotiates his contract where you can't do that in American sports. No,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: you can trade it, you get trade or you go
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: with your car. There's no but there's no transfer, whereas
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: in football with there's a fee. Every player has a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: value so and back pay. Now if he's if he's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: going for a free transfer, so he's he's at the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: end of his contract, say he might have signed a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: five year deal. He's now got his contract down to
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: at the end of the season will be zero, no years,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: so there's no transfer fee. So you imagine what wages
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: he'll be asking for. He'll be saying, I'm worth two
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million pounds as a players and one
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: off fee to get my wages, I need to see
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: something that two hundred fifty million pound because I'm saving
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: you that by going to a free a zero on
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: my contract in length in time.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: I think what Messy's contract was. It was rawan to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: be like six hundred and sixty million.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, his contract was crazy, man, serious.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Six hundred and sixteen million.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: So that's before endorsements.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Right, just the contract to play.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: Crackers play. I've played in the wrong era, man, I've
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: played in the wrong era. Do you know what? I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: used to have this conversation with one of my partners
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: in football, me and the Manu Vitach. Any football fans
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: out there, you'll know he is, and we sit there
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: and I sit there and go to him.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Bro, we got it at the best time. We earned
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: the most money.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you guys from five years ago,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: ten years ago, they're looking at us like crazy, and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: he used to go, yeah you think we are, So
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: he ain't going hard on this bro. These guys are
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: cleaned up different, but it's good to good luck to them.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: We had this conversation the other day. We were saying, like,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: such a great player, such a young talent. Every year
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 7: seems like there's a there's some type of transfer that's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: about to happen with him.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Why is it when he's playing for PSG with two
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: other all time grades? Why what? Like, what's the science
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: behind that?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: Is he wants to be his star of his own
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: situation or like how does that way?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: What's the psychology behind that?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's because he's been there for about four
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: or five years and he's like, what more can I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: do here? I need a new challenge. I think also
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: for I think it might be about like culture as well,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: like to be considered the best in the world. Just
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: just imagine he's got to share the spotlight with two superstars.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: That are bigger than him.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah at the moment. But in terms of playing
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: who's playing the best football and you could argue say
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: it's him, But in terms of superstardom, he's probably third
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: on the wrong because of the time he's been in
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: the game compared to these guys, so he just made
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Also that league isn't considered the best league that he
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: plays in. Gotta come here, We'll come to the Premier
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: League or the league will have two big clubs, Barcelona
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: and Real Madrid. And everyone's saying Madrid that he's gonna
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: go there, but historically they're huge clubs, so they still
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: have huge pool. It's like, it's like I'm in America.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: You guys, what would be the NBA team that everyone
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: goes down? Lakers you got to go and pay for
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: If you get a chance away for the Lakers, you
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: got to do it. And that's what it's like when
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: you look at Sir Piers's a very new team.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: And they always get a guy, so like they had
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: Koby Residents and then they got Brian so they lost.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 9: Obviously, Christiano Ronaldo left to go to Italy. Take that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: to yeah, and then Harland as well. Don't forget Harland.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: He's he's other big talent. He's coming from Dortmund and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 9: he's in I think he'll probably go to Barcelona maybe honestly,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: he comes to the Premier League. But lost Messi so
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: it's just it's crazy. It's similar speaking of messy. This
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: is the age long debate, the old messy. Who is
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: the best? Let's add to it. Are you gonna say
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 9: all time?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, likes who's better career?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Are we putting in this conversation?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: No? No, no, I'm not gonna say. That's a whole different conversation.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Yea all the time?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Or he's the great he's like. It's difficult though, to say,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: you know why, because look at the amount we can
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: see of these of these two guys, we see their
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: whole catalog. But with Pele, what do we see? We
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: don't have that history to be able to go, oh,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: we only saw the World Cup really when he played
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: every day, so the World Cup came around every four years.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: We only saw him really every four years. So to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: judge him just on that, I think, is like I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: almost have to put him to one side and say, yeah,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: he's a great, maybe the greatest of all time. But
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't put him against these guys. I don't know
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: enough these two in this era. There's no one there.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: The numbers that these two have done, the consistency sustained
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: over a long period of time never been seen before
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: never ever. It's just it's outrageous time And at the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: same time, it's like in tennis when you had like
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Federer and Djokovic, like you've really got that.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: In football you had like mar Donald was the man,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Pelly was the man, but different eras now we had
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: two of them fighting against each other from Afar. It
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: was just a beautiful story. Who's the best? I like
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: to put it, I don't know, man, do you know what?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: He's a man? You know, you know what careful.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: Messy mess That messy is the artists of artists. Like
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: what he does on a pitch, providing chances for other people,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: scoring beautiful goals, almost like just painting pictures around the pitch.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: He was just mesmeric to watch. You just was like,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: this guy is from a different out of space. Cristiano
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: is the most decisive footballer.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen, size, talent, speed.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: Just he decides games and you look through his career,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: the biggest moments, this guy just steps up and just
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: scores and like they're both great, and it's almost like
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: it's just enjoy them, no matter who's the best, Just
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: to enjoy them, you know what I mean? Because it's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: that close as well for me. When he's back here,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: he's back in Manchester. They're not a good time many
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: having a good time.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what'st when he started, It's been a pleasure my brother,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: nice man.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you again. I'm a fan of the show Man,
• 1:11:26
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• 1:11:30
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• 1:11:34
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• 1:11:36
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