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The Fever Report with John Robertson & Michelle Garmon (2.302.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to the fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every Sunday on the Central Indian sports report, but it won't be Sunday before you hear from John and Michelle again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They also share their immediate reaction after most fever games throughout the season as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here on the Central Indian sports report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, Fever fans of the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Fever Report with John Roberts and a Michelle Garmin.
0:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Since we last talked, the Fever went one and one with a nice wind and Phoenix, another loss with Kate Linn and the lineup.
0:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So do we need to continue to throw out the theory that they're better without Caitlin?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a topic that we need to continue to go down that road?
0:54
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but they do play awfully well without her.
1:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to really agree with that this week.
1:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They both games were ugly.
1:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We won the game against Mercury, and you could tell that the team really wanted that one, because at least the Thomas was talking a lot of crap to the...
1:12
[SPEAKER_02]: to the fever bitch, so like when the fever won that game, they were very happy about it, but both games were ugly.
1:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna put it on Caitlyn Clark in the Los Angeles game, because she could just never really, we knew she was gonna be on minutes restriction.
1:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the way they implemented that minutes restriction was really weird to me.
1:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was hard for her to get in any sort of rhythm at all.
1:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like a couple minutes in and then now, and then a couple minutes in and then now.
1:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think getting through this week, getting through this last week is kind of just,
1:43
[SPEAKER_02]: a accomplishment on a zone because it's still weird week, right?
1:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have Alia Boston in the, in the Lakers game, not like here's the sparks game.
1:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we didn't have Caitlyn in the, in the Phoenix game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And both games were ugly.
1:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just say what it is.
1:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Both games were ugly.
2:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad they got the win in the Phoenix.
2:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not want to hear
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Phoenix fans go on and on for the rest of the week after the loss there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been worse than just the loss had to win that one had to win that one had to win and big I'm going to be honest for the people who didn't watch it and don't know how that went in it up Kelsey Mitchell had a great game.
2:22
[SPEAKER_02]: She gets to go ahead bucket on a drive with like 22nd to go I don't remember exactly but in the 22nd range
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alyssa Thomas takes the ball down, tries to make a play, misses her shot, and then Clea Copper just shoves Sophie in the back.
2:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So fever have like a 1.0 lead.
2:46
[SPEAKER_02]: and Sophie's got to go shoot two free throws with like 14 seconds left on the clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the one a boner wants Sophie to miss those free throws because if you think back to when, you know, boner had the tech free throw, what happened after she missed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sophie went by and went point to her from behind and it was hilarious.
3:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really liked that Sophie was the one that got to put the like nail in the coffin.
3:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Kelsey for clutch, go ahead, buck it, but Sophie getting the dagger was beautiful.
3:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what John Sophie's going to have she she's going to have a career in any form of entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she wants after basketball days are done because she was that was a fast you got push in the back, but give Sophie credit backspas and she's been battling backspasms to hear lately she sold it she sacrificed her body to sell the the shove in the back by making sure she hit the floor.
3:39
[SPEAKER_00]: because if she doesn't go down, I don't know that they call that about honestly at that moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She got hit pretty hard.
3:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked to me like she got hit pretty hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think it was too much of a sell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some, but it was definitely she got hit.
3:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So speaking of speaking of Sophie being, let's talk about her for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like her popularity amongst casuals has gone way up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: way way up skyrocketed way up like in even amongst all the like the bingo ladies at my mom's Tuesday bingo are all they all love Sophie my mom when we went to a game together a couple weeks ago
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... she said who what jersey should i get and she thought about getting lexie and she thought about getting so much of people because she has a k-lander is he so she bought a soapy jersey she wore it to one of her like ladies get together isn't oh my gosh all apparently all the women there just went off because they love so fee so much so i think so fee is really gained the following amongst a lot of people way you saw where she's got her own i mean the deetus is given her room chewed out
4:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle reporting from a war zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, we got rid of the firework.
4:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle.
4:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Michelle.
5:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a happy birthday.
5:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope that doesn't mean they think they can let off fireworks with 250 days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's in Phoenix reporting positive things about Sophie gunshots are going off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, I mean, you know, you did see she so if you got something, you know, I did see because I've already had to put on my calendar to try and get them because there's two people in my house that want them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got to try and get the so the Katelyn shoe, the blue version for my daughter who plays basketball and they have to have blue shoes so she really wants those Katelyn's but the Sophie when they both want just to wear.
5:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I was wondering if she has a second best selling jersey behind Clark at this rate and I mean, just she's on everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's having her on their podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're having her, you know, Fox, they're doing all of this stuff and her popularity has soared, but you know, your popularity doesn't sort if you do not have an engaging personality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sophie Cunningham does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she is someone I think would be so cool to go just spend a day with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely think she's fantastic.
6:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other thing I thought you were going to say and you didn't it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But with the soaring popularity comes the soaring hatred from the haters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are all those Sophie hate is all over social media right now from the people that don't
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[SPEAKER_02]: the same same people was that don't like Caitlin you can hate us all you want we don't care I like Sophie a ton so please don't take this as a as a shot at her I think that there was some part of her that like new if she could just get to indie with Caitlin and Lexi as she could
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[SPEAKER_02]: make narratives and get herself in the spotlight some and then her natural personality would shine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that was somewhat of a goal for her.
6:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I know she was traded to Andy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't free agent her way here, but I still think that it worked out for her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's not meant to be a knock at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for her because she's playing the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The game has rules.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's playing within the rules and the goals she's making money.
7:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's contributing.
7:01
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a great three-point shooter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's not averaging a ton of points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's getting the point she needs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's a leader.
7:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she does she is a leader on the floor on the bench.
7:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what she's doing is in smart with everything is going on.
7:16
[SPEAKER_00]: She's almost making herself invaluable to where There could be a lot of blowback from fever fans if the fever don't resign her at the end of the season.
7:24
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she definitely she was doing a really good job of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: player coaching in the huddle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was one, she was mic'd up the other night in the Phoenix game and you could tell because it was a rough game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The half court offense looked terrible and the defense looks terrible, but Sophie was in the huddle saying, keep your heads in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We only need to pick up this many points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We only need to let's just make it here by, and I'm like, that's great player coaching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Sophie's, Sophie's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sophie's invaluable.
7:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And I re-elected, I saw the, I saw the, I saw the worth of indie report, Caitlyn is probable for tomorrow.
7:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
7:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They're minute restrictions, and I know it wasn't hard to get into flow, but I, I think it was, I think with a lay of Boston, with a lay of not playing, and they did know.
8:09
[SPEAKER_00]: right up until game time whether Sophie was going to be able to go.
8:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think without those players on the floor, I think it was more getting Caitlin out there letting her get up and down the floor to see how she did, but I don't think they wanted to take a chance on her taking a tumble or anything like that.
8:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the plan going in before any of those they said, like Caitlin sitting in an interview like last week that she was going to play it.
8:33
[SPEAKER_02]: L.A. and she was not going to play at Phoenix.
8:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They're taking great care of what they're, which I think they should.
8:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's a competitor and it's frustrating to her to not be able to play when they're down and like she wants to be in there, but they have to stick with the right plan for her health.
8:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the moment, she didn't want to come out.
8:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, so you could tell if I or body language or face, she didn't want to be out, but outside of the heat of the moment, I'm sure she agrees it understands.
9:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, something interesting.
9:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking through a story today that talked about 10 players to keep your eye on as the WMBA trade deadline comes up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And two core words, they had the fever.
9:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the fever was the third option on one, and they've listed the fever as like the first option on another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one, the first option was, is he Harrison?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm trying to remember who the other forward was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who are we on a trade, who are we trading?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was thinking, but really, if we have a weakness, it's just consistent second court person outside of Alia.
9:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do want to say this to me, the difference play of the entire year so far in the WNBA and maybe the last two to three years was Michaela Timson's block of Calia Copper on that way, that block was beautiful.
9:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Timson's starting to show some real good defensive prowess and she's getting some good offensive rebounds and putbacks when she's in there she's not doing quantity but she's getting quality right like that's the best way of it so she's not getting tons of points and tons of plays but the place she makes her outstanding so Timson I really think I'm not ready to say she's turned the corner to be a great player yet but she's definitely showing like she's got a high ceiling
10:24
[SPEAKER_02]: the game's a little faster than she can keep up with.
10:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see that she's not really caught up to what she needs to do sometimes.
10:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say basketball like you.
10:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say she's bad.
10:35
[SPEAKER_02]: She's still trying to figure out where she needs to put herself in position for some stuff.
10:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But when she's there, she's doing great.
10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I was going to say her defensive recognition, I think that is where it's held her up at times because she doesn't always understand and she's always she's not always good on rotation, you know, on the defensive rotations and when you're especially when you're a big down there in the mid and they have to count you for rebounding you have to kind of you have to understand that scheme and how the defense is supposed to rotate.
11:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everybody should, but it's really harder to cover it up when you're down in the rebounding areas.
11:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we can't talk about these last couple of games without talking about Kelsey Mitchell, two 29 point games, 29 in the LA game and 29 in the Phoenix game.
11:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling you, like she is just an elite score.
11:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely score.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She is and I know there will be the certain fans.
11:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about this the other day and I thought and Caitlin Clark is phenomenal.
11:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We are gonna.
11:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know that we can, I still believe we don't believe we can win a championship without her and her treatment that the rough plays got the rough physical fouls have to stop, but I will say this.
11:51
[SPEAKER_00]: right now Kelsey Mitchell is the best score on the fever.
11:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn is the best passer and probably offensive facilitator.
11:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Alia Boston is our best all-around player right now because she we miss her defense as much as her offense against the sparks.
12:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to disagree with anything that you said Michelle, but here's the thing just like it's far as conversation-wise, the kind of drives me nuts is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why can't, and this isn't you, this is just people in general, right?
12:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Why can't we just celebrate how great Kelsey is without always having to talk about Caitlin at all in that conversation.
12:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's people are always saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
12:38
[SPEAKER_00]: She's amazingly, I think that's what bothers me too is because some of those, I've almost, I'm starting to realize really look, these people, you know, and that's a healthy retreat, Caitlyn's not appreciated goes somewhere where she's going to be appreciated and this and that they're not fever fans.
12:56
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we're watching the game for Caitlyn.
12:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They're only going to pay attention to Caitlyn.
13:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not fever fans.
13:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really want to see granted.
13:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the league, we've talked about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The league is messed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn's providing the golden ticket and they've missed that mess that up.
13:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, the league for the league to also grow, we have to become other players have to become must CTV.
13:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Olivia Miles is in Minnesota.
13:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have that to continue.
13:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not about people on this podcast.
13:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just about people in general who can't just accept that or say Kelsey Mitchell's playing great.
13:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it without somebody else to be like, well, why don't you mention Caitlyn or why don't I'm like, they're their teammates.
13:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They want success for each other.
13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to sew anyway.
13:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, that's one of my little,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Erx about people.
13:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I want to celebrate Kelsey because Kelsey's playing awesome.
13:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I also want to celebrate Caitlin because she's fantastic and like her being there has helped Kelsey.
13:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we can admit those two things are, er,
13:54
[SPEAKER_02]: both true.
13:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I just I thought we had to shout out Kelsey because she's playing so great.
13:57
[SPEAKER_02]: She in her interview the other night.
13:59
[SPEAKER_02]: She said they asked her who she modeled her play after and when she was like in middle school, who did you go out into the court to pretend you were when you're on the court.
14:07
[SPEAKER_02]: She said, I'm going to keep it 100.
14:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I always tried to pretend I was out and I was sitting on it.
14:12
[SPEAKER_02]: My mind blew because that's so obvious.
14:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you watch her play, that's incredibly obvious, but I've never once even realized like I never crossed my mind to think that.
14:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but that, you watch her play.
14:23
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like the female Allen Iverson.
14:26
[SPEAKER_00]: She is.
14:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's well, and look at me because she is, she's a small guard.
14:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if Kelsey Mitchell as quick as she is, if she was about to be put two more inches on her or three, it makes her even make sure even better a little bit on the defensive end to the length as quick as she is.
14:45
[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to get more deflection, but she I'll tell you what I will say can't say it to people though.
14:49
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know you can, but I'm going to go out and I'm going to say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I truly believe right now because Kelsey Mitchell shows up and plays every day.
14:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, she has got to be one of the favorites to win the MVP and the league, at the mid season.
15:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only competition she has may be Jessica Shepherd who is a double double machine every night and has two triple doubles this year.
15:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I think Kelsey Mitchell is phenomenal and what she does and scores and absolutely
15:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and I just, I think we have to have it out there on the record that this team can exist with both Kelsey getting all the points that she wants and Caitlyn doing everything she wants to do.
15:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And like they're both happy for it.
15:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Leah doing what she does, because let's face it, they're both successful.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Their, Leah makes both of them even more successful.
15:42
[SPEAKER_02]: agree.
15:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I think of the trio of them makes this team a contender regardless of who else is out there with them for the most part.
15:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that against Los Angeles, the absence of Alia was a bigger factor than anything because they have size and we didn't have a lot of to work with against.
16:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So with Alia out against LA, that was was was bad.
16:05
[SPEAKER_02]: At least playing great though, real quick before I forget, because I know I'm going to figure out we were talking about trade deadlines and all that stuff.
16:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think we have one thing we really need to talk about is the fever, let Justin Justin go.
16:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with that.
16:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you?
16:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That was my question.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought they should have drafted her.
16:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched her play in college.
16:24
[SPEAKER_00]: She is a, she can shoot threes, but she shoots less than 39.
16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: She shoots like 36% from the field inside the art.
16:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And that, I'm sorry.
16:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just like, if you have her, it's like making her another guard.
16:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't need that.
16:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We need at her rebounding.
16:40
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not very strong on the boards.
16:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We need somebody, yes, if they want to step out and knock down the three fine, but we need a front court player that can be physical.
16:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's not, she's not super physical.
16:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was perfectly fine because I think Greg remembers when we talked about the draft and I said, that was the headscratcher for me, because I would not have taken her.
17:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you like tomorrow's Dante's better than justine?
17:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what I like about Dante's better?
17:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Dante's is ready, and she knows the NBA or the W NBA, and she's following.
17:12
[SPEAKER_00]: She's happy with whatever, she's not creating a problem on the team, and I'm not saying just steam would, but what I'm saying is what least with Dante's, you have someone with the experience, and Dante's came in, and she had good minutes, her, she had some good minutes the other night, when she had to, because we were the bigs were in found trouble.
17:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Just steam couldn't have done what Dante's did.
17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying you give me twenty twenty four don't just like that get it but twenty five and well twenty five was okay but this year don't just has been
17:45
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not very productive.
17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Rarely praise and her production is not spectacular.
17:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe don't this is a trade piece.
17:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Per it as second round or but pick, you know, four one of those forwards, it might be on the, you know, on the trade block.
17:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And she'd be better value as the trade.
18:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the ace of signer.
18:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the soft score today.
18:03
[SPEAKER_00]: But oh my gosh, did you see that score?
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of which guys, I know Michelle, you meant to say that the game is tonight, not tomorrow.
18:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday, nine o'clock in Vegas, the final of four straight on the road, and it's a big one.
18:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Michelle said we expect Katelyn Clark Blackback.
18:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they return home Wednesday against the Valkyries Friday against the Storm Saturday against the Liberty and a couple of days off before the Connecticut Sun Wednesday the 22nd before the All-Star Break so a chance to get some momentum heading into the All-Star Break.
18:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a busy week.
18:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking at the schedule and tomorrow's away and then I've got three games to get to this week.
18:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be a lot.
18:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the New York Games are going to be
18:52
[SPEAKER_02]: really telling about what the chances of this team are for the long term honestly.
18:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not real thrilled with how we're just giving in barely beating teams we should be beating by 15.
19:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Like LA we should have won period but we probably should have won by at least, I would say at least 5 if not 10 and we lost that game by a significant amount.
19:14
[SPEAKER_02]: and then Phoenix, we won by three.
19:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So if the fever are really gonna have a chance to make a deep run, they're gonna have to start to show it.
19:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I don't know after all Starbreak, hopefully everybody'll be healed and fully healthy, but we'll see how the Saturday game goes.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be anxious to see how many of the games that Caitlyn plays over the next week.
19:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an interesting question,
19:45
[SPEAKER_02]: three of them are tough games for sure.
19:47
[SPEAKER_02]: The storm game could go either way.
19:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think we should probably win, but the storm had been doing pretty well.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all tough games.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And if we lose to Connecticut, just wrap it up.
19:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the end of it.
19:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm gonna give up on championship.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna get it.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't even mean that to be, oh, like, you know, hyperbolic.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, if we lose to the sun.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut it down, people.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even worth going forward anymore, if you lose that one.
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do you disagree?
20:12
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm a girl.
20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I'm saying shut up.
20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't tell.
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But we need to go at least two and two over the next four games.
20:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
20:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's aces, that's a big ask.
20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's New York, that's a big ask.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the Valcarees, that's a big ask.
20:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Because all three of those teams are really good.
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So two and three, it over the next five doesn't even look that great, really.
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But five and oh.
20:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not happening.
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, let's be honest.
20:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Five and oh is not happening.
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you, John.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I don't think I'll be favored in four of the five games.
20:47
[SPEAKER_02]: No way.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: No way.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be the underdog against New York.
20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be the underdog against the Las Vegas.
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be the underdog against Calcary.
20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me look at the line.
20:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You talk Michelle.
20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to look at the line.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I agree.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be in the underdog tonight today against the uh Yeah, I drew that night.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll be the underdog against the liberty.
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think part of the reason they're going to be the underdog is just the uncertain certain certain status of because Caitlin really right now with back issue issue.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but she's playing in the other the favorites.
21:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but maybe not because until everybody knows she's
21:30
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, they're only giving me the ace's game in the fever are underdogs by six and half points.
21:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the only game they give me.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll check back in, but I would zero percent chance they're the underdogs at home against Golden State.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero percent chance.
21:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't Greg, I'll agree with you.
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they'll be the underdogs.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it could be a evener, you know, they a slight favorite.
21:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they'll be an overweight.
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: no way.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The betting public bets the fever.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get a couple of points anyway.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Based on that, and they're at home, and they're at least as good as Golden State.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be a three and a half point favor.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest with you, though, take the gambling out of it and just go by basketball experts and aren't putting a line on it.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They may not be the favorite in all those games.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give him analytics gives the fever a 70% chance to win the game against the Valkyrie's correct that's ridiculous I'm going to be betting the Valkyrie's plus points of that game I'm just going to tell you that right now even though I want the fever to win I'm going to take the Valk's plus points well I will say this I don't trust anything for me S.B.
22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: in any way so hey yeah I don't either once they got their own sports book Gabby Williams is out by the way well that does make a little bit of it ever
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: of out for at least one game with a back contusion.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So Valkyries are eight and two in their last 10 games.
23:07
[SPEAKER_02]: They've beaten us pretty badly.
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They won one game against the set home, right?
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't go to that one, so I don't remember.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've never gone well, you know what I mean?
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, twice a home this year.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: If we've played in twice at home, then they may have won one, but I know we beat them at home at least one.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the fever won their first ever game against the Valkyries on May 22nd at home.
23:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking Vox plus points.
23:38
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're the underdog, if the fever are the the favorites, I'm taking Vox plus points and hope the fever just don't cover just for the record that wasn't my argument.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: My argument was that they will be a favorite.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all it was.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that the win.
23:52
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: If we can come out of this five game stretch before all stars three and two, that's a good sign.
23:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if we lose to the ACEs in New York, but if we win the other three, I'll be content with that.
24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree John, three and two, anything over three and two is great.
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like five and two.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy talk.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just crazy talk.
24:21
[SPEAKER_02]: they've got some stuff to work on.
24:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got some stuff to work on.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They have put it all together yet.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I will say this.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Austro-Break will be nice.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the fever break later, if the fever right there, I think they could come out of that break and be even better.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know we're going to have some players playing.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's my little, can I just, here's not controversial.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how players get some rhythm.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want
24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want our players in that at all.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I want them to say, if Caitlin's still fighting an injury, just say, I'm sorry, I can't play.
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not going to do that.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not going to do.
25:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I know she's not going to, but I would like her, too.
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But here's the thing about with the fever.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You have enough stars, you have enough players that also have experience that her minutes won't be what they are with the fever.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to do start a media swirl about all my guys can stop playing blah blah blah Everybody like the media like for as much as they want to say she's not important They can't stop talking about her
25:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'd like to look at him and say, go back to the last few international competitions and if it's not a close game, count the number of minutes that Anazia Wilson is played or an Ephesia Collier or something like that.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do the same thing.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about anything.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying like for all the media that wants to talk about how she does isn't important it isn't the face of the league.
25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They sure can't stop talking about her.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, but this this out of just a history if you if you are aware of Indiana professional basketball players history playing in the Fibon basketball.
25:59
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
25:59
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Paul George snapping his leg completely and have we had to make a catches catching's being a star
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but we also had Victor Aladipo getting injured and up for a few minutes.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're talking men and you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much to John and Michelle.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for listening.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Always appreciate it.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back later this week with our reactions to a couple of fever games.
26:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't make any commitments to any because John and Michelle are both very busy, but probably after the game on Sunday.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no doubt we will be back on Sunday with the next fever report with John and Michelle.
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