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Tony Dungy previews Chargers matchup | Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, January 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jens Drive Time with John Hosier person and
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Speaker 1: Bryan Sextys Sexting. Jangs Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Jack's Drive Time Brian Sexton along with
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Speaker 1: John Osier here as we get set to present to
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Speaker 1: you in our b blog an exciting interview Tony Dungee,
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Speaker 1: the Hall of famer who will be calling the game
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Speaker 1: with Al Michael's on Saturday nights, will join us. John,
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Speaker 1: how arey this morning? I'm good, I'm good. Looking forward
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Speaker 1: to talking to Tony. You haven't talked to him in
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Speaker 1: a while, and uh, it's always good to talk football
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Speaker 1: with ye and exciting to have him here without Michael's
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Speaker 1: and provide some commentary. So let's jump right into big
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Speaker 1: things here on Wednesday morning, and we will start with
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Speaker 1: playoff football. Look, playoff football is where it's at and
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Speaker 1: it's different then the regular season. The head coaches working
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Speaker 1: with his team to get them ready. Last week was
1:07
Speaker 1: it was a playoff game for us, and we understand
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Speaker 1: that and you know the physicality and the speed of
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Speaker 1: that game, it's just going to carry over to this game.
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Speaker 1: But you know, having gone through it now with this
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Speaker 1: with with this team. I think it prepares you for
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Speaker 1: for what's coming, for what's coming next. But you have
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Speaker 1: to constantly remind guys that you know everything we do.
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Speaker 1: It's not a listen, it's not a it's not a
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Speaker 1: panic situation enough one, but you just gotta remind them
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Speaker 1: that that everything we do um on and off the
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Speaker 1: football field this week can matter and and uh not
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Speaker 1: only can affect you know, affect your performance, but you
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Speaker 1: can affect the team in the game as well. And
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Speaker 1: big thing too, so so so similar individually between the quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: and when you take a look at it, it's the
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Speaker 1: same with both the offense and defensive the Chargers and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. You know, justin this tremendous quarterback obviously, but
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Speaker 1: you see some of the similarities there, even with some
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Speaker 1: of the skill receivers and and what they have, um,
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Speaker 1: you know running the ball. Similar And big thing three,
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Speaker 1: the best defense for the Chargers might be the Jaguars offense.
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Speaker 1: There are explosive players all over the field, John And
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Speaker 1: when you look at it, this is a game where
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Speaker 1: you're going to have to score points. And if you
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Speaker 1: look at the Chargers in particular in their six losses
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Speaker 1: this year, for seven losses. In their seven losses this year,
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Speaker 1: they have surrendered an average of twenty seven points. So
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Speaker 1: you figure you're gonna sco score. Um. You know, And
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Speaker 1: this is not meant to say anything negative about the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, But as Doug Peterson likes to say, especially
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, every game becomes different and every challenge
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Speaker 1: is different. They've been able the last three weeks to
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Speaker 1: win games because of uh, partly because they've been playing
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Speaker 1: teams who do not have elite quarterbacks. When you play
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Speaker 1: teams with elite quarterbacks in the NFL, you by definition
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Speaker 1: have to score more. And your defense, especially the Jagguars
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Speaker 1: defense plays it becomes more what I've talked about all year,
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Speaker 1: getting a few where you break, serve getting off the field.
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Speaker 1: Think Dallas when they got two big plays out of
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Speaker 1: ra Seon Jenkins two interceptions and the defense they have
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Speaker 1: thirty four, but I would make the argument they were
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Speaker 1: huge in that game, made huge plays. Uh. To me,
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Speaker 1: it feels like, I don't think they go thirty four
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Speaker 1: this week, but the spirit of that game. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting. You need to make big plays at
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Speaker 1: some point, and to me, this Jaguars defense it is
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Speaker 1: cut out for a game like this. Uh. I don't
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Speaker 1: think they're an interesting unit in the sense of if
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Speaker 1: if you walked up, if they were given up fifty
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Speaker 1: points a game, and you walked up to these players
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Speaker 1: say hey, you guys aren't any good, they wouldn't understand
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Speaker 1: what you were saying. They leave they're good. They believed
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Speaker 1: they were good even at mid season when the stats
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Speaker 1: said they weren't. So I think the confidence level is
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting at. They can give up twenty eight
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Speaker 1: in a game they game and on the last on
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Speaker 1: the last series, they still think they're going out there
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Speaker 1: and getting to stop. That has served them very well
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Speaker 1: this year. Well, their coverage hasn't been all that consistent
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Speaker 1: down the field, and we've chronicled that since Shaq Griffin
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Speaker 1: left the lineup, they've been trying to find the right combination.
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Speaker 1: But what's happened is guys up front of the place
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Speaker 1: twenty seven takeaways a year ago, they had nine. To
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Speaker 1: find their defense and seven takeaways defines the go ahead.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to similarities because when you take
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Speaker 1: a look and let's take a look right here at
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Speaker 1: the matchup of the Jaguars offense, and just look and
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Speaker 1: see how similar the two are. Okay, or don't do that,
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Speaker 1: perhaps not um in all categories offense, defense, points, yards,
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Speaker 1: third down, red zone. The Jaguars even wins. Right, they
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Speaker 1: have ten Jaguars have nine. Um they are so similar.
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Speaker 1: These two teams are very, very similar. The quarterbacks right,
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Speaker 1: justin Herbert has some some uh passing yards right, um
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Speaker 1: Lawrence Right, they each have twenty five touchdowns. They've each
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Speaker 1: completed sixties percent of their passes. They've each been up
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Speaker 1: and down a little bit this year, meaning the teams, uh,
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Speaker 1: because they're not in eight and ten seven, so by
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Speaker 1: definition up and down a little bit. I think the
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Speaker 1: Chargers overall expected to be better than this this year.
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Speaker 1: I think they expected to be twelve wins ish uh.
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Speaker 1: And the injuries I think really bit them. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 1: the f C West was supposed to be this incredible division.
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Speaker 1: It turned out to be kNs sitting everybody else again,
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Speaker 1: but the Chargers and the Jaguars both if you think
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Speaker 1: about this, the Jaguar was win the last five games
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Speaker 1: to get in. The Chargers won four on the road
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Speaker 1: to get in, and then Sunday, Uh, people out there
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Speaker 1: a little worried about their performance Sunday. They had clinched
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Speaker 1: everything they could clinch when that game kicked off, So
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Speaker 1: I never take that much into account. They're both hot
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Speaker 1: coming in Uh. Both quarterbacks have great hair, which is key.
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Speaker 1: So but I think offensively there are some similarities even
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Speaker 1: beyond the hair. Um travisy Tan and lar Uh. I
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Speaker 1: don't say they're the same running back, but the offense
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Speaker 1: is placed similarly. They need to pass, but boy, you
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Speaker 1: better watch that running back if you're the opposing defenses,
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Speaker 1: or they can hurt you with big, big plays. When
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Speaker 1: the season began, because this is the third year for
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and Los Angeles, the expectation was they were
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Speaker 1: going to take the jump. They were gonna make the
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Speaker 1: playoffs right for the first time in his career, and
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Speaker 1: they were going to become one of those elite teams.
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Speaker 1: They spent the money in free agency. You're gonna make
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Speaker 1: the trade for Klo Mack the whole nine yards. So
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about the similarities between the two franchises.
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Speaker 1: Expectations for the Jaguars clearly weren't you know, they were
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Speaker 1: too right the ship right, make some forward progress and
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Speaker 1: set up a playoff run ine. So all the similarities
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Speaker 1: on the table in front of us. How much better
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Speaker 1: are the Chargers than the Jaguars? I I think, because
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be your favorite, is to say they
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Speaker 1: are if you're looking at it from thirty feet because
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Speaker 1: of the things you're talking about. Um, the reality is
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars being thirty ten out there now. Herbert was injured,
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Speaker 1: I think it was Keenan Allen didn't play, and Joey
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Speaker 1: Bosa was out of that game early, but so was
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Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, their left tackle. It was still thirty eight ten,
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Speaker 1: and uh so the teams are so different now that
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily you, I don't necessarily think you can
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Speaker 1: look at that game and draw a conclusion. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess the best way for me to look at
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Speaker 1: this game, I would not be surprised at all if
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Speaker 1: if the Chargers win, I would not be surprised at
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Speaker 1: off the Jaguars win. There's no That's the point of
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Speaker 1: big thing to last week. Uh I talked all week
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Speaker 1: about them needing to make sure they understood the Titans
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Speaker 1: were good and that game could get close. But I
8:20
Speaker 1: would have been surprised had the Jaguars lost because I
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Speaker 1: thought they were the better team. I thought, overall, there
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Speaker 1: were so many things that favored them. Eventually one played
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Speaker 1: out in the Josh Dabbs situation. UM, I don't necessarily
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Speaker 1: look at this game thinking, Wow, one team is better
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Speaker 1: than the other. It's a first round playoff game between
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Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth seed. By definition, it's this kind
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Speaker 1: of a game where it's close, and I think you
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Speaker 1: could just surmise that the Jaguars have caught up to
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. If they're that similar, they've made up what
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Speaker 1: you had hoped when they hired urban Meyer a year ago,
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Speaker 1: they'd hope that they'd be at this point right now,
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Speaker 1: right So then Doug Peterson has to come in and
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Speaker 1: give a coach of the year performance and catch up.
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Speaker 1: I just seems like they have. I'm find thinking the
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Speaker 1: key to this game. I think Trevor Lawrence at at
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Speaker 1: various times this year, for seventeen games, he has probably
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Speaker 1: looked like like you thought Trevor Lawrence would look in
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Speaker 1: what thirteen Um, I think he has to look in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He has to make plays. He has to
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Speaker 1: be really, really good the way he has been good
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Speaker 1: a lot this year. To me, the better quarterback wins
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Speaker 1: this game Saturday. Totally agreed, all right. When we returned
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame coach, broadcaster author joins us. Tony
9:37
Speaker 1: Dungee is up next on Jack's Drive Time on a
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning from t I A A Bankfield in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, John Osier here as we get set for
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Speaker 1: playoff football at t I A bank Field, and we're
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Speaker 1: honored to bring on a man who has had a
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Speaker 1: very strong impact on the National Football League going back
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Speaker 1: almost fifty years, the former head coach of the Colts
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Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers. You know him as a Hall of
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Speaker 1: Famer h NBC Sports author Tony Dungee. Hello, coach, how
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Speaker 1: are you? Hello? Brian and John, I'm join well, how
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Speaker 1: are you good? Thanks so much for making time for
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Speaker 1: us this morning. Excited to get into the broadcast booth
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Speaker 1: for some playoff football on Saturday night, I really am.
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have the best game of the
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Speaker 1: week for sir coach, give us a sense from your
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Speaker 1: perspective on a national level of the job that Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson has done this year. Coming in with, you know,
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Speaker 1: a train wreck of a franchise in January. They were
10:57
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to get it all
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Speaker 1: back on the rail. And he's got him in the
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Speaker 1: playoffs in one year. Well, I have to tell you,
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Speaker 1: I have a vote on the AP Awards, and I
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Speaker 1: voted for Doug for Coach of the Year because I
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Speaker 1: think what he has done. I knew he would do well,
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Speaker 1: and I knew he had trance fuse energy into this
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Speaker 1: franchise and get them going, but I thought it would
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Speaker 1: be a couple of years to really get it. And
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Speaker 1: it clicked in after about eight weeks. Uh, it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: We had the Hall of Fame game for NBC we're broadcasting,
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Speaker 1: and I was down on the field before the game,
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Speaker 1: just kind of watching, taking notes, and Josh Allen came
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Speaker 1: up to me and he said, we are gonna be
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Speaker 1: on your show. We're gonna be on Sunday Night Football
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Speaker 1: by the end of the year. We're a good team.
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Speaker 1: People don't know it, but I promise you we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be there and we talked about that and he was right. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He said he could feel the energy. He thought coach
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Speaker 1: Peterson was the right person for them. Uh. He just
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Speaker 1: and I felt that from everybody there. Guys were so
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Speaker 1: excited that it was genuine and and they've done it. Coach.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how well you know Doug, but you
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Speaker 1: know and now working with you for the seven or
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Speaker 1: eight years we worked together, and they're working with Doug.
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Speaker 1: So many similarities to me in terms of approach, in
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Speaker 1: terms of the calmness, in terms of keeping things in
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Speaker 1: an even keel. I'm wondering if you know him that
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Speaker 1: well and if you see some of those similarities, I
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Speaker 1: really do. I got to know dougu their Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia. I was working for NBC. We had
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Speaker 1: the game, and my assignment for the two weeks leading
12:33
Speaker 1: up to that was to track the Eagles and report
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Speaker 1: on them. So I was in Philadelphia for a week
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Speaker 1: and I saw the same type of thing. I saw
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Speaker 1: how the players talked about him. I saw their response
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Speaker 1: to adversity. And that year, if you'll remember, uh, Nick
12:50
Speaker 1: Foles had to take over um for Carson Wentz. Wentz
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Speaker 1: got hurt and everybody said, oh, the season's over. We
12:57
Speaker 1: had a great run, but now it's not gonna work.
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Speaker 1: And none of the players felt that. Everyone felt Coach
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Speaker 1: Peterson will figure this out, and that calmness and that
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Speaker 1: sense of we're gonna be okay, that's that's what he transmits. Coach,
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Speaker 1: this team has an an incredible number of free agents
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Speaker 1: that contribute for it. And you know, uh, when you're
13:19
Speaker 1: with the Colts, it was not a free agent based team. Um,
13:22
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering if you could speak to how difficult
13:24
Speaker 1: it is for a coach and for a team to
13:26
Speaker 1: come together the way this team has. Uh, all three
13:29
Speaker 1: wide receivers are all three their leading receivers are new
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Speaker 1: this year. Luikan's knew this year, Brandon Sheriff's knew this year.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot to come together in one offseason. And
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Speaker 1: that's why I voted for for Doug for Coach of
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Speaker 1: the Year, because that is a difficult task. Usually that's
13:45
Speaker 1: a two or three year process. But he's molded these guys,
13:49
Speaker 1: he's gotten them, gotten them going, and gotten them together,
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Speaker 1: and it's fantastic. I actually had phone calls with the
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Speaker 1: two coordinators yesterday and today and both of them. Pressed
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Speaker 1: and Mike call Well talked about just how these guys
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Speaker 1: have stepped in, and he also said something very interesting
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Speaker 1: to me. He said, we didn't go after that big luminary,
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Speaker 1: that twenty million dollar star. We went after guys who
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Speaker 1: were team players. We went after guys who were hard workers.
14:19
Speaker 1: We went after good teammates. And that's one thing too,
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Speaker 1: I think, evaluating who you want and who you're going
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Speaker 1: to bring into the mix. And they brought some outstanding
14:29
Speaker 1: young people in there. I happen to know a lot
14:32
Speaker 1: about the Clemson program because I'm very close with coach Swaine,
14:36
Speaker 1: had been around them, so when they drafted Trevor and
14:39
Speaker 1: Travis E t N there was no doubt in my
14:43
Speaker 1: mind the kind of people they were getting. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's been the hallmark of this this building process. Coach,
14:50
Speaker 1: you had a team in Tampa that sort of came
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere and UH and I made the playoffs
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Speaker 1: and the city was electric. Uh. Probably much the way
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville is right now. What's Doug's task in UH getting
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Speaker 1: this team to sort of thrive on that feeling but
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Speaker 1: not have it overwhelmed them? Is that a thing? It
15:11
Speaker 1: really is and you do want to build on that
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Speaker 1: and build on that energy and emotion. I remember the
15:16
Speaker 1: year we we made the playoffs in nine seven for
15:19
Speaker 1: the first time in Tampa, and our owners came over
15:23
Speaker 1: on that Monday and said, Hey, we've got people buying
15:26
Speaker 1: tickets at the stadium. Do you want to go over
15:28
Speaker 1: and say hi to them? And we're gonna pass out
15:30
Speaker 1: some donuts and juice. So I went over about nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning expecting to see a line that
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Speaker 1: twenty five people. The line was all the way around
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Speaker 1: the stadium. And that's the kind of energy and we
15:43
Speaker 1: saw it. Um you know, we we saw it Saturday
15:47
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and I just think it's going to be
15:50
Speaker 1: an outstanding atmosphere. You want to embrace that. As Jaguars
15:54
Speaker 1: players and coaches. You wanna know, Hey, our town is
15:58
Speaker 1: behind us, our fans are behind us, but you still
16:02
Speaker 1: have to say, this is football, and we've got to
16:05
Speaker 1: go out and just execute just like we're doing the
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Speaker 1: regular season. Yes, the stakes are higher, Yes, everybody's going
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Speaker 1: to be energized, but you know what, we've got to
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Speaker 1: do our jobs the same way and not get too high. Coach,
16:17
Speaker 1: you have a long history of defense in the National
16:20
Speaker 1: Football League as a player and a coach. So I'm
16:22
Speaker 1: curious your impressions of Mike Caldwell and the job he's
16:27
Speaker 1: done this year. They've been challenged statistically in some categories,
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Speaker 1: but they have twenty seven takeaways, and just like last
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, they seem in the last month through this
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Speaker 1: winning streak to have a knack to make the play
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Speaker 1: that they need to. That's not something that's easy to coach.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I love how they're building it because it
16:46
Speaker 1: does remind me so much of my groups. It's it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of high energy players out there playing with speed.
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Speaker 1: I think they emphasize that speed and athleticism over size.
16:58
Speaker 1: They do emphasize the takeaways, and that's how coach Caldwell
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Speaker 1: believes you win games, and he's got his guys believe
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Speaker 1: in that now, so they expect to make those game
17:09
Speaker 1: changing plays. And yes, you're not these offenses now in
17:13
Speaker 1: this day and age, with the rules and with these
17:15
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you're playing. You're not gonna shut people down, You're
17:18
Speaker 1: not holding people a hundred eighty yards in a game.
17:21
Speaker 1: Things are gonna happen. But when you make the key
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Speaker 1: plays when you get to the third long and you
17:25
Speaker 1: can get that sack, when you can get that force fumble,
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Speaker 1: that that interception, that's what's gonna turn the game around. Obviously,
17:33
Speaker 1: you look back at the first game against these two
17:35
Speaker 1: teams in Week three. Early interceptions set the offense up,
17:39
Speaker 1: good field position, get the lead. That changes everything, and
17:43
Speaker 1: that's these guys mindset. Coach, you mentioned having a feel
17:48
Speaker 1: for Trevor before he came into the league. Um, I'm
17:51
Speaker 1: just wondering your thoughts on him. You're with Peyton for
17:53
Speaker 1: a long time. I'm not asking you for comparison there,
17:55
Speaker 1: but what kind of franchise quarterback in this kid be
18:00
Speaker 1: very similar mindset? Um, I see a lot of those
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Speaker 1: same qualities. A guy who galvanizes his teammates. Everybody likes him,
18:09
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be around him. But the thing that
18:12
Speaker 1: I think the biggest quality that Trevor and Peyton have
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Speaker 1: is they hold themselves to a high standard. Uh, Trevor
18:20
Speaker 1: Lawrence wants to play well. When he makes mistakes, he
18:23
Speaker 1: takes it personally, so he's working hard. And when you're quarterback,
18:28
Speaker 1: is one of the hardest working players then everybody else
18:31
Speaker 1: since is that they get in the same mindset and
18:34
Speaker 1: he can hold them to a high standard. So I
18:37
Speaker 1: do see a lot of similarities. And just one more
18:40
Speaker 1: for me coaching, that is, you started a run of
18:43
Speaker 1: sustained excellence over a period of you know, ten years
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. How hard is it? You get it started
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Speaker 1: right here now with Doug in the job that he's
18:53
Speaker 1: done and his coordinators. What's the key to being able
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Speaker 1: to be consistently competitive and to build that culture going forward?
19:03
Speaker 1: I think the key is to build that atmosphere where
19:07
Speaker 1: people want to be there and they want to stay.
19:09
Speaker 1: What you're gonna have now that the Jags have gotten
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Speaker 1: a little success and they've got some good young players
19:15
Speaker 1: is while the next time around, how can we sign everybody?
19:18
Speaker 1: How can we spread this money around and keep everybody here? Well,
19:21
Speaker 1: you can't if people are saying, I'm just gonna go
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Speaker 1: to the highest bidder, because you're gonna have individual teams
19:27
Speaker 1: that can outpay you. But when guys feel like, hey,
19:30
Speaker 1: we've got something going special here. I want to stay here.
19:34
Speaker 1: I want to be here and be part of this,
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Speaker 1: and they're willing to sacrifice a little bit individually to
19:39
Speaker 1: stay in a good group, then you keep the momentum going.
19:43
Speaker 1: They talk to their buddies, and free agents take a
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Speaker 1: little bit less to come to a good atmosphere in
19:48
Speaker 1: a winning situation where you've got a chance to win
19:50
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So I think it's the atmosphere that
19:52
Speaker 1: you create, and I think Coach Peterson is the perfect
19:56
Speaker 1: person to kind of lead that way and establish that. Coach,
20:00
Speaker 1: we are so grateful for your time this morning, and
20:02
Speaker 1: we're excited to have you in Jacksonville on Saturday night
20:04
Speaker 1: and show you what Duvall is all about. Thanks so much.
20:06
Speaker 1: You're wonderful coming over tomorrow to watch practice and do
20:10
Speaker 1: some interviews with the players and stuff. I am, I'm
20:13
Speaker 1: very pumped up. Usually when I come to Jacksonville, it
20:16
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't always pleasant, but this is gonna be
20:19
Speaker 1: fun for me. Looking forward to it. Coach, have a
20:21
Speaker 1: great Wednesday. Thanks, Thank you, Head coach Tony Dungee. What
20:25
Speaker 1: an honor to have him on. Just what he's meant
20:28
Speaker 1: not just a football teams, franchises, but to the league
20:31
Speaker 1: as a whole. We're we're excited to have had him
20:34
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Speaker 1: Tony Dudgy, Hall of Famer, for joining us um time
21:23
Speaker 1: for this or that. John, And I think you've got
21:26
Speaker 1: the question of the week. Yeah, well, and it's sort
21:28
Speaker 1: of obvious. Trevor, Lawrence or Justin Herbert and I think
21:32
Speaker 1: the significant thing Brian's I don't know the answer. And
21:36
Speaker 1: when I say it that way, I mean at the
21:38
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, even after week three, Trevor was
21:42
Speaker 1: the the player of the week after week three and
21:45
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had been hurting, didn't play very well. Actually
21:47
Speaker 1: it's not fair. He actually played very well considering the
21:50
Speaker 1: rave of injury, but Trevor had outplayed him that day.
21:53
Speaker 1: But I don't think many people in the league would
21:54
Speaker 1: have said, well, I wonder who you'd rather have a
21:56
Speaker 1: quarterback at that time, you would have still taken Justin
21:59
Speaker 1: Herbert because you seen it now going in. I think
22:03
Speaker 1: it's a legitimate question that I don't think you really
22:06
Speaker 1: know the answer to. Um. I think Justin Herbert probably
22:10
Speaker 1: still has a what is it, a you know, fifty
22:14
Speaker 1: game body of work that overall he's done more in
22:18
Speaker 1: the league than Trevor. But it feels like now that's
22:22
Speaker 1: more of a time issue that he's been He's had
22:24
Speaker 1: more time on task than Trevor. Well, he landed in
22:26
Speaker 1: a situation with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, and we
22:30
Speaker 1: know that Trevor did not have that advantage. But right now,
22:33
Speaker 1: these last eight or nine games, uh, I need to
22:38
Speaker 1: toss up and I'm gonna take Trevor to see him
22:41
Speaker 1: every day, you know, And not because I seem in
22:43
Speaker 1: the hallway, don't get mad at the answer, but because
22:45
Speaker 1: I see knowing what he's doing and where he's going.
22:49
Speaker 1: But I think this is the question that could decide
22:51
Speaker 1: the game. Well, look, I'm a fan of Justin Herbert
22:53
Speaker 1: and in is they were trying to maneuver around in
22:56
Speaker 1: the first round. I was all in on the Jaguars
22:59
Speaker 1: moving up if they could they want to draft him, Yeah,
23:02
Speaker 1: they tried. UM. So I think he's terrific. UM. But
23:05
Speaker 1: I think the point of big thing too is they're
23:07
Speaker 1: so similar completions twenty touchdowns each. Trevor has eight interceptions,
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Speaker 1: Justin has ten. Trevor has a point two quarterback rating.
23:16
Speaker 1: Justin has three point one. Let me pick. Here's why
23:18
Speaker 1: I'm going with Trevor. He fits Jacksonville, he fits this marketplace.
23:22
Speaker 1: He's a southern kid, played up the road at Clemson.
23:25
Speaker 1: You know, his faith is very strong and that fits
23:27
Speaker 1: in this marketplace. And obviously a tremendous football player. But
23:31
Speaker 1: if you had either one, you'd be really excited about
23:33
Speaker 1: your future. John, and that's really the key to this team.
23:36
Speaker 1: And I don't know that there is an answer to
23:37
Speaker 1: the question, because you know, I think both of them
23:40
Speaker 1: are on their way to being elite UM being. The
23:44
Speaker 1: intriguing thing about Trevor remains, and this is an offseason
23:46
Speaker 1: topic more than anything. UM. I still think Doug believes
23:53
Speaker 1: that there's a year two in this system jump coming
23:56
Speaker 1: next year. He's been saying it all and he hasn't
23:59
Speaker 1: talked about it a whole lot the last two months
24:01
Speaker 1: because Trevor has gotten better, hasn't been a topic. What's
24:04
Speaker 1: wrong with Trevor? All that stuff. But you still gotta
24:08
Speaker 1: believe that there's going to be a jump. If you
24:12
Speaker 1: think this is Trevor's rookie season, which there's an argument
24:14
Speaker 1: to be made, then boy, where it could go from here?
24:18
Speaker 1: But that's that's a topic for another day. So I'll
24:20
Speaker 1: take for my this or that. Is there pressure on
24:24
Speaker 1: the Jaguars team like there was last Saturday night? Or
24:28
Speaker 1: they playing with house money? What's your approach if you're
24:30
Speaker 1: the head coach, Hey, you're not just here to be
24:34
Speaker 1: here and to be glad, but you're here and no
24:37
Speaker 1: one expected you to be here. You're ahead of schedule.
24:40
Speaker 1: So where is it? Is this team tightened up? Or
24:43
Speaker 1: is this team loose and relaxed knowing they've already exceeded expectations.
24:47
Speaker 1: Is that T I. T A N E. D. Tightened
24:50
Speaker 1: like tightened up? It's pretty good now? Um, I think
24:57
Speaker 1: it will be the second. I think they're gonna play looser,
25:00
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily that that they, you know,
25:04
Speaker 1: wanted that last week. I don't think the players. I
25:07
Speaker 1: thought that way going in, but there's something in the
25:10
Speaker 1: water when you have I think looking back on that game,
25:14
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars may have played different from the
25:18
Speaker 1: start of that game. And I say different just you know,
25:21
Speaker 1: I guess looser. Had they been a game down rather
25:26
Speaker 1: than a game up, meaning in the standings, had they
25:30
Speaker 1: still been the hunted or the hunter rather than hunted.
25:34
Speaker 1: It just felt like that changed a little bit because
25:36
Speaker 1: there was an expectation among the fans. I felt I
25:40
Speaker 1: got multiple Eami was saying, hey, we got him this time,
25:43
Speaker 1: we got him. Josh Dobbs, you know all that. I
25:47
Speaker 1: think Josh Dobbs being a second or third year or
25:49
Speaker 1: or second or third game quarterback, uh changed the dynamic
25:53
Speaker 1: of that. Nobody thinks that there is a major quarterback
25:58
Speaker 1: deficiency on Los angele Us this week. It's a strength.
26:02
Speaker 1: So I think as a result, you go play that
26:04
Speaker 1: game much looser. So I think I think more house
26:07
Speaker 1: money than the other. So we talked, you know, the
26:10
Speaker 1: walk from where we park on the other side of
26:12
Speaker 1: the arena over here on the game UH day, it
26:17
Speaker 1: took almost an hour because people wanted to stop and
26:19
Speaker 1: talk there was such an intensity and an expectation, uh,
26:23
Speaker 1: that this team was going to perform well. And then
26:26
Speaker 1: I walked out on the field about an hour before kickoff,
26:28
Speaker 1: and there's an energy level that's building and I'm not playing,
26:32
Speaker 1: and I'm nervous for him, right because it's the Titans,
26:34
Speaker 1: because and I know having lived the history of this rivalry,
26:38
Speaker 1: and maybe it was just in my head, but I
26:40
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think there you Clint to have
26:43
Speaker 1: looked at the crowd last Saturday night and said they're
26:45
Speaker 1: here to see us beat these guys and not tightened
26:48
Speaker 1: up a little. Now having said that, I threw that
26:50
Speaker 1: at every player in the locker room yesterday and I said,
26:53
Speaker 1: were you tight? Will you be on Saturday? Yes? We were,
26:57
Speaker 1: And they were sheepish in admitting it. They didn't want
26:59
Speaker 1: to know we won't be. Yeah, And and uh, it's
27:02
Speaker 1: a hard thing to explain. It's you. I don't think
27:04
Speaker 1: you can coach that out of somebody. I think just circumstances.
27:08
Speaker 1: Bring it in credit to him for figuring out where
27:10
Speaker 1: you get through that, um, but I don't think that
27:14
Speaker 1: game circumstance will be there this week, all right, So
27:17
Speaker 1: that's this or that and when we return, we'll wrap
27:22
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27:25
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28:52
Speaker 1: when I went to him yesterday in the locker room
28:55
Speaker 1: to talk about the game, he wanted to go back
28:58
Speaker 1: to last Saturday night and make sure that you all
29:01
Speaker 1: knew that he was an utter disbelief in all to
29:05
Speaker 1: use his exact words of the scene at the stadium
29:08
Speaker 1: here on Saturday. Well, he's been a relevant a revelation.
29:12
Speaker 1: I always stuggle with that word. Um. He And I've
29:16
Speaker 1: said before in this show, a guy who had uh
29:21
Speaker 1: didn't have the time in New York that he hoped
29:24
Speaker 1: as a first round free agent or a first round
29:27
Speaker 1: draft pick and had issues with the New York media
29:30
Speaker 1: as any player who's not a Hall of Famer is
29:32
Speaker 1: going to do up there. Um. But what a unbelievable
29:36
Speaker 1: fit strength for this organization. Uh, you see it every
29:41
Speaker 1: time he's miked up. You see every time he's on
29:43
Speaker 1: one of our broadcast. To me, he defines his free
29:45
Speaker 1: agency class has come in. And I was talking to
29:48
Speaker 1: Za Jones, uh, Mark Long and I were talking to
29:51
Speaker 1: him at his locker yesterday and they made the point
29:55
Speaker 1: of you know, look at ev he he comes in,
30:00
Speaker 1: he's he's on a one year deal, and he is
30:02
Speaker 1: as bought in from day one as anybody on here.
30:07
Speaker 1: And it's easy to say, well, you should be, you're
30:09
Speaker 1: getting paid, but it's different. Everything's a Jaguar, I mean,
30:13
Speaker 1: and all these freetents have done that. I believe he'll
30:17
Speaker 1: be here next year. But again, it's not easy to
30:20
Speaker 1: do that. And I do think the players have found out, Brian,
30:27
Speaker 1: what we already knew is that if if you give
30:31
Speaker 1: this fan base even a sip of success, it's off
30:36
Speaker 1: the charts. It's been hard to support this team for
30:40
Speaker 1: a decade. When you're six and ten, seven and nine
30:43
Speaker 1: and or hoping to get to six and ten. You know,
30:46
Speaker 1: the support for that, for what it has been has
30:49
Speaker 1: been unreal good. That's what you're gonna see. That was
30:54
Speaker 1: not surprising to me. Well, look, I talked. It was
30:57
Speaker 1: great to see, but it was not a surprise. I
30:58
Speaker 1: talked to Andrey sis go Um, Christian Kirk, Josh Allen.
31:02
Speaker 1: They all made a point of bringing up Saturday Night themselves,
31:06
Speaker 1: so they saw it. And then I went to Brandon Sheriff,
31:09
Speaker 1: who is a total pro, but isn't necessarily the guy
31:12
Speaker 1: who makes himself that available in the locker room. You know,
31:14
Speaker 1: talking to the media is not necessarily his favorite thing
31:17
Speaker 1: to do. But he goes, oh yeah, he wanted to
31:19
Speaker 1: talk and wanted to talk about that scene and about
31:21
Speaker 1: his decision to come here. And I'm previewing it because
31:25
Speaker 1: it is my Baptist Health j O I player feature
31:29
Speaker 1: in the first hour of radio pregame on Sunday, and
31:32
Speaker 1: he was utterly terrific by the way. I heard maybe
31:35
Speaker 1: from you, that Sounds of the Game is pretty good
31:36
Speaker 1: this week. It is good. It is good. It's uh
31:40
Speaker 1: credit to the Jaguar. I even know what your department is,
31:44
Speaker 1: the digital video but um, I joke, I didn't know
31:49
Speaker 1: the department is. They do a great job. And Sounds
31:52
Speaker 1: of the Game has become a you know, sort of
31:55
Speaker 1: a cult following him on the fan base with reason.
31:57
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. I heard that that this week is the
32:00
Speaker 1: best ever, and obviously it fits because that was one
32:02
Speaker 1: of the best ever games that we've witnessed here in
32:06
Speaker 1: Jackson Vill. All right, we've gotta show for you tomorrow,
32:08
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