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- 0:01OK, let's do resh sama. Hey Haas Mila, we are reading
- 0:07starting with Saif Dalit just from Saif Gimmel.
- 0:11Just to point out the end of the remind just points out he says
- 0:14call ha Brahos that you have to repeat all of them.
- 0:18If you have to redo a UN kosher Mila one that's a vada, it
- 0:22wasn't kosher, you have to redo it.
- 0:24So you say all three Brahos. It's there's three of them, if
- 0:27you haven't noticed, there's or 4 if yeah.
- 0:32Well, so if you use Hagiafen, there's 4, right?
- 0:36There's Mila Lahniso, then there's Hagiafen and then Corey
- 0:40Tabrit. So there's actually 4.
- 0:42And Kayyem is the extra paragraph after the bracha of
- 0:48Corey Tabrit. And Kayyem is the, the paragraph
- 0:51where it's, it's people call it a bracha.
- 0:54It's not technically a bracha. It is more of its Fila for
- 0:57Bracha and what's it called and and and naming the child, but
- 1:07and that that was already said, and so you don't have to re say
- 1:11that it could. You don't need to, but for
- 1:14breakfast you need to and you drink.
- 1:17When do you drink? So you drink after Corey Tabrit
- 1:21and then you say Kayem and tayeled because Hagefen when you
- 1:25say very great Geffen, that's that's because of the Brahaf
- 1:28Kare tabrid and it gives Khashiwas khashiwas to to the
- 1:35mitzvah with a concept enom reem Shira below yayin.
- 1:38It's a it's like a Shira. It's a Brahaf sheba and
- 1:43therefore it's more appropriate to do it on a cup of wine.
- 1:46So, and so that's what Khazawas been talking and but Kayyem
- 1:52it's, it's a really, it's a have sex.
- 1:54So you should at least have A at least taste the wine.
- 1:58OK, that I saw quoted both by all circles.
- 2:02That's the Minogue. OK, as far as I know.
- 2:05Fine, let's redial it inside Mamzer.
- 2:08Can you sell who? Mamzer is a Jew.
- 2:12He's 100% Jewish. We just finished or in the order
- 2:19ever Kanani. So that's the whole question if
- 2:21it's 100% Jewish or not. But either way, these are all
- 2:26Jews and they all need a brasmila and umevarakhim Allah
- 2:31birkasmila AD kurit a breathe and you say all the brachos.
- 2:36So we just mentioned also for a mamsa, he's 100% Jew and
- 2:40therefore it all applies to him. Have all having said that aim of
- 2:46Akshim. I love Rahamim, but we don't, we
- 2:53don't say what you don't say. You don't say Kayama Tayela, you
- 2:59don't, we don't ask, we don't say a special raha of Rahamim
- 3:03for him or a tefila for him. In fact, we don't say who says
- 3:13that. The Shah says that.
- 3:16The Maharal also points out in the TAZ that there's a custom to
- 3:19call him Kidor. I don't know if he means it.
- 3:23Mahariel, I don't remember. I mean, I don't know if your
- 3:26Mama, she means you name the child Kidor and that becomes his
- 3:29name. I don't.
- 3:30I think the parents are going to choose what they want to do, but
- 3:34or maybe they just call him Kidor, at least right then and
- 3:37there. Also, some have the tradition
- 3:42Ghidor Tapuhos Hema based on that from the the puzzle.
- 3:46In other words, it's we want to publicize that he is a a momser.
- 3:52We want everyone to know that he's a momser.
- 3:55We know now again, there's a din we're not learning health class
- 3:58momseras, but there is a din keeping it quiet if no one knows
- 4:02about it, but everyone knows right now he's a momser.
- 4:05So we, he's known and therefore we, we publicize it so that
- 4:11everybody knows. And so that's right for it
- 4:14matters for marriages. So some used to make it instead
- 4:19of getting the bris inside the show or the main hall, they
- 4:22would have him outdoors in the Hutzer.
- 4:25That's that's where they would do the miss the, the bris for a
- 4:28mom's there. And so it was, it was clear to
- 4:31everybody that that he was in mom's there, that there's a
- 4:36concept of we don't want mamzarin proliferating, we don't
- 4:42want mamzarin in Kaliasura. And there is a Midrash Rabba
- 4:46that's quoted in the GRA that it's because of mamzaris.
- 4:50You're mixing illicit relationships.
- 4:54And so therefore it brings mixtures of chaos disorder in
- 4:59the world and indiscriminate plague that kills the good and
- 5:03the bad. So that is, that's mamzaris.
- 5:08And that's not something that we want.
- 5:10Again, we don't dive in and wish anything bad on such a person.
- 5:15And such a person can get the coins Aaliyah if he's a, if he's
- 5:21a mamzar, Talmud Kaham. And he's a full Jew, 100%
- 5:25Jewish, and deserves all the greatest kibudim if he deserves
- 5:31it. But the concept, it's not
- 5:33impersonal, but the concept of mamzeras, that's something that
- 5:36we do not, we don't want and we don't want it to be to continue.
- 5:43OK, let's read on. Umafar samim bishat Mila
- 5:49toshihumamzer. That's the haggah.
- 5:51So they right, we publicize it. Yomaki Purim uba arbaat somat.
- 5:56So now what do we do on a fast aid Loya varet al hakos?
- 6:01So the halacha and the sholkhanara is you skip that,
- 6:04you skip one of those brothels, you skip beret priyagafin.
- 6:08There's no cup. No, there's no cup at all.
- 6:12You don't use it all. There's no cup at all.
- 6:14You skip it completely and you just say the brothels without a
- 6:17colas because it's asked her to drink it.
- 6:20And it would be like a brothel. It would be a brothel of atalla
- 6:23or like a brothel of atalla. I guess that's we're going to
- 6:26see that's the Mahlokus what to do.
- 6:29But that's that's the reason why it's it's deleted on a fast
- 6:34meal. However, Shahayo LED it Ina meet
- 6:39Ana. But so it depends though, if
- 6:42since so on Yom Kippur, this Shokanara Vanswargdin, they'll
- 6:47never be a Kos of Yani. But what about on the other
- 6:51Taniyod? So a a woman, the mother, if
- 6:54she's there normally she is and she's not fasting.
- 7:00All right, It depends if she's fasting, but if you let it is
- 7:03there and she's not fasting. So she's right.
- 7:07She should not be. Is there a situation right?
- 7:09I think she should not be, especially on the 8th day.
- 7:13All right, probably. I don't think there's a
- 7:15situation where she could be fasting.
- 7:17OK, so she's not supposed to be fasting, right?
- 7:20It's the other Somos and she just gave birthright.
- 7:24We're not going to get into it, but it could be for two years or
- 7:27whatever the situation is. She's not fasting.
- 7:30So then, right, she's nursing aene meet ane, so she's just
- 7:35since she is not fasting, Yahoo lavare Holocaust vetito MI MENA
- 7:40ayolet it and she tastes it and that's fine right.
- 7:44We mentioned that the OK since I said the word the the the
- 7:51halacha is the post can point out that you only need to taste.
- 7:56You don't need enough. It could be you don't even need
- 7:58to taste. That's what we're going to about
- 8:00to read. It's a Mahlokis because the
- 8:01bracha Geffen is that's how it was in the talking for it to be
- 8:06there for because in Shira Belian.
- 8:11So the question, so let's say according to the Sholkhanara,
- 8:16someone must at least taste it or you wouldn't have the Kos.
- 8:19But the issue is since you you only have to taste it, you're
- 8:23not having the wine for itself. It's not a Kos Sholbraka and
- 8:28therefore you don't have to drink a Rivito or a Mali
- 8:31Luganov. That's what I'm just trying to
- 8:32point out that tasting is enough.
- 8:34Maybe Mali Luganov is better, I don't know, but it's definitely
- 8:38not necessary. All you have to do is just a
- 8:40taste and it's and that's totally fine.
- 8:44But she told me MENA how you let it.
- 8:45So that's all she needs to do. And he shown ma ATA bracha as
- 8:49long as she's there and she hears Berry Priya Geffen Ulmit
- 8:53Ulmit covenant and she has to have in mind to be able to say
- 8:58the Brafa very Priya Geffen right.
- 8:59Some I'm sure the mother is listening, but sometimes you
- 9:02know, the people there in the room are chit chatting.
- 9:05So she if she's going to drink, she has to make sure that she's
- 9:09listening. And Shalola havsik be Devarin
- 9:12Bain shimiata brafa lishtiata kos.
- 9:16And of course she can't make a havsik till they pass through
- 9:18the wine. Right from the time that the
- 9:20brafa's made until she drinks it, she can't talk.
- 9:30So again, it depends on the case, but generally speaking,
- 9:33I'm Yom Kippur and Tishaba, she's not allowed to drink.
- 9:36So Ain Novarchin Alakos. So therefore there's no there's
- 9:43no Kos OK will be tishaba of Asanami lo Maitinan.
- 9:50It also points out that those who have right we discussed
- 9:54those who bring Hadassin fragrance.
- 9:56So we don't use that on Auntie Shabba AB because it's it's for
- 10:02Onig it's and it's not this. It's not the time of Onig Auntie
- 10:08Shabba. OK, let's keep going.
- 10:20So for the same reason why we won't say the samim when it
- 10:25lands on Tishbaab Mote Shabbas Hagar the yeesh omrim no.
- 10:32And so the the ramas says wait, wait, what do?
- 10:36What do we do on a fast day? The mvarakim akos bicolta aniot
- 10:41vignote aniima brafa Latino kot kitani.
- 10:45So we give it to little children to drink to the men of
- 10:48Ashkenazim. As far as I know, even on Yom
- 10:51Kippur and all the the somot, wherever they are, they all say
- 10:56abraca anakos. But the adults don't drink it.
- 10:59I mean, maybe the mother, I'm not sure which is preferable.
- 11:04Let's see if he says, but someone's going to drink it,
- 11:07they'll give it to a baby, a child, a child.
- 11:09They say it's better to give it to a child who is above the age
- 11:13of 6. But for a young kipper, they
- 11:16would give it to the to the baby.
- 11:19I think. So not 100% sure.
- 11:22And there might be different. I mean, I'll give them that.
- 11:25They can't suck in oral heim. The gras says what?
- 11:29The same thing or not, right? The Teema is for the Kubota
- 11:37Bracha, so it's not necessary. So don't give it to a child on
- 11:42Yom Kippur. No one has to have it.
- 11:45But it's better for the Kubota de Bracha to at least give it to
- 11:48the baby. But we don't want to give it to
- 11:50a child on Yom Kippur, because what's the expression in Khazal
- 11:58Shama Yisrak Yisrak, That's the expression because, right, We
- 12:06don't want him to learn that you're allowed to eat on Yom
- 12:10Kippur or drink on Yom Kippur. The children above the age of 6
- 12:14have a memory. And we don't want, we don't want
- 12:17that. And we read them anyway, right?
- 12:21Shikoshi Yisrak, that he'll learn and fine.
- 12:28And we're more concerned about that, especially on Yom Kippur.
- 12:33OK, fine, let's go on vecchino again.
- 12:38And that's the custom. So after Yom Kippur, you give it
- 12:41to the Tinak animal commotion. That's where that's discussed
- 12:49more in detail even right always you you'd say by giving it to a
- 12:58cotton with a teema of a Eno, A Ginke.
- 13:01That's not Allah Hassan duck shorter appreciate Eno to anit
- 13:05better to give it to a San Duk. He writes he was not fasting.
- 13:10OK and the shaft just points out that the custom is you give it
- 13:13to a cotton on a fast day, not to the San Duk even like even if
- 13:17he's going to eat that day, San Duk has to fast on a public fast
- 13:21day. As far as I know, it's for a
- 13:24personal fast like for a yard site.
- 13:26So then I think we say he can. OK, it's for a personal fast for
- 13:33a regular tightness. We give it still give it to A to
- 13:36the cut down. OK, Hey, Michieeso State, Tino
- 13:44Cutler, MO What happens if you have two babies to do a Bursa on
- 13:48at the same time? They're twins.
- 13:52You have two, two people in the community.
- 13:54They have at the same time. They bring them all at the same
- 13:56time. OK, You have very Brafa, which
- 14:00name? So Chauhanar writes say 1 Brafa
- 14:03for both, right? When you do Shreeta on, I'm not
- 14:06making a comparison or I am, but you do Shreeta on a chicken or
- 14:11an animal. They say 1 alashita and then
- 14:14they just keep shafting. It's not because they're all in
- 14:17a row. They're ready to go and it's
- 14:19it's one mitzvah. Afilu IM shnayam malim harishon
- 14:24Phil IM shnaim Alina harishon yavarikala Mila, the olegam, the
- 14:30Shini. So you're if you're going to do
- 14:332 at once, so the Mila use goes on both of them used to do that
- 14:38before you start either one, right before the first one, you
- 14:42say Alamila and then you cut the Ola and that works for the
- 14:46second one, the Hashini and then the second one, I mean, and
- 14:51that's OK. The father, it's not relevant
- 14:55for the father 'cause he's going to the father.
- 14:58Well, it could be if it's, if it's twins, it's two different
- 15:01people, two different families. So both fathers are going to say
- 15:04so anyway. So if it's twins, so he'll say
- 15:09Lakhani. So let's see if he discusses
- 15:12that. I'm assuming once on both as
- 15:14well. The first one, the Hashini and
- 15:17then the the second Moell. The second person would say, you
- 15:28know, the second after the second baby for the second baby
- 15:32who's ever say in the brotha, I think yuvari A sheer Kadesh you
- 15:37did. That's the right correta breed.
- 15:39That's the bracha. That's after the meal is
- 15:41completely done, the Olegum Larry shams and by saying that
- 15:46brotha it goes on the 1st brotha too.
- 15:49So all the brothels you only do 1.
- 15:52I feel in an arlafana mishata bracha cave and shedarito Allah
- 15:55brachuli Asia Dato bin time even if you took you finished the
- 16:01first baby, you take away the baby to the next room whatever
- 16:04it is. Then they do the second baby and
- 16:08the second person will say Corey Tabrit and that'll work on both.
- 16:13Just have in mind it's for both babies.
- 16:17The moil has to hear the brotha. The baby should be there too.
- 16:21I'm not sure if it's as long as he has in mind and they bring it
- 16:24right away. I don't think that's a problem.
- 16:26OK, so he just has to have in mind the shock points out.
- 16:29Maybe you don't even have in mind.
- 16:31That's a whole question Sarafian.
- 16:33OK, but the shock says Lamaisa. He says the better way it's
- 16:38gonna it's a whole macho could be showing him if you if you
- 16:41look in the resources. But the tour whatever.
- 16:43But the shock says the best practice is to say your own
- 16:48brothels for each baby because and just make sure you don't you
- 16:54you make a little bit of 1/2 sick.
- 16:55You don't bring both babies at the exact same time.
- 16:59Then how many minutes it's not clear, but there should be could
- 17:04be close, but not too close and bring them in the room
- 17:07afterwards because it's it's it's easy not to have for people
- 17:14to talk in between and for there to be 1/2 sick with things that
- 17:17are not mamish necessary. You'll have it's easy for there
- 17:20to be a a big break of time and Hassakhadat.
- 17:25So your best practice is just to tell that Z were for all
- 17:29generations in all places is just to do separately and to
- 17:33have. So I'm not sure.
- 17:36I guess I'm assuming they'll be different.
- 17:38I mean, hug him and how to pass go no maisa haga hava IMSA
- 17:43beintain. But if he speaks in between, oh
- 17:47shaloh yeah, da to Allah shani mithila or he didn't have right?
- 17:52This is what the Shah wasn't sure about.
- 17:54He didn't have the second baby in mind.
- 17:57Sari lavariek hashedeh. She did al arishan velasso
- 18:00lavariek al milat hashini. So then you have to.
- 18:05Then you're going to have to make new brothels, right?
- 18:08You do the first baby and if there's a half SEC, So then you
- 18:13have to say I share kidesh for the first baby and then for the
- 18:17next baby, you got to say that the Ala Mila all over again.
- 18:23So it's only a half SEC. If you talk about things that
- 18:28are not related to Mila, you want to know about the weather,
- 18:31you want to know about someone's car.
- 18:33I don't know whatever you feel like talking about or you want
- 18:35to discuss the toast was that's not related to the Mila.
- 18:38How about if it's Sarah Hamila lo have a have set.
- 18:41But as long as you're like, oh, pass me the new blade.
- 18:44You don't want to right cross contaminate.
- 18:47Give me, you know, pass me another cup of wine or using the
- 18:51same cup of wine, but you know, like where they're having the
- 18:54baby dip the wine that to put some in the mouth of the baby.
- 18:57Whatever it is something that's Sarah Hamila that's not called a
- 19:01have set, but I feel in Shaka will be a shared kiddesh.
- 19:05You did the alpha vision. You know it's our clocks are Al
- 19:08Hamila. Now let's say you're planning to
- 19:12do 1 bracha for everybody and you just do the first and then
- 19:15after the first baby, right, You learn Talaka, but you're so used
- 19:18to doing a shared kiddesh right away.
- 19:20So you see a shared kiddesh right away after the first baby
- 19:24and you didn't yet do the second baby.
- 19:26So you already did a shared key dish.
- 19:28You're going to have to do that brafa again, obviously after the
- 19:31second baby. But should you do all the Mila?
- 19:34He says no because the first al Hamil, there's still no half
- 19:37sick yet. You only said the brafa of a
- 19:39shared key dish. That's not 1/2 sick.
- 19:41I'm doing the Mila. It's still Sara Amila the of the
- 19:45of the Mila. So therefore you don't have to
- 19:47say a a new Al Hamila because that that is la Havre Havse
- 19:53Kafka inyan kisui dung, OK, the IM shnea yelladim sha Adam ET al
- 20:00Omerlah Nissan pivrito sha al ramavino, right?
- 20:04So that's what we're saying that if it's one, if it's two that we
- 20:07were talking if it's two separate babies and the
- 20:09father's, each father's going to say la honey.
- 20:10So on his own. But if it's right, two have
- 20:13separate families. But here, if it's the same
- 20:15family, it's twins, and therefore there is.
- 20:19The it's one father for both children.
- 20:22So he only is only going to say Lahakhani.
- 20:24So after the OR before or during the first one, whatever your
- 20:29minnag is. And when he says it for two,
- 20:32he's instead of saying Lahakhani.
- 20:34So you see, you're right, you say Lahakhani's son.
- 20:37So obviously we see it's not a problem of changing the mudvaya
- 20:41of the Brafa, you're just changing a letter and that's not
- 20:45a problem. Bahrain, Omar Hayam Hayadim and
- 20:49you say Kayama Tayaladim on both of them and you can name them
- 20:55separate. You can name them in there.
- 20:57Each one's gonna say each name separately.
- 21:01OK, we talking, We talking cold Surkhi hamila Co ET habifine
- 21:08asthma and whatever it's you'd struck and whatever you do for
- 21:12the meal and you do normally you should do it for each child
- 21:16separately. It could go naner shabbli kin
- 21:18Yasser the Co ET adner bifine asthma.
- 21:21So if you're going to light a candle for each child, so then
- 21:25you light a so then you continue lighting a child and separate 1
- 21:29candle for each child that you're not going to combine all
- 21:32at once. The heka, the escher abdeenan
- 21:36lamila BA asara BA heka de lo ashara.
- 21:40Whenever you have a chance, there's a, there's a mitzvah to
- 21:43do the bris Mila with a minion at least 10, that's whatever.
- 21:48If you can, you can. That's what the, the ball Itzer
- 21:51points out and all, and that's what all the everyone follows.
- 21:56What's the reasoning for doing 10?
- 21:58So I'll just point out you cut the Mahariel points out from
- 22:02Pirka de Rabeli Azar because there's no Adas from Hashem that
- 22:07Hashem gives to us to Kauai Israel with less than 10 people.
- 22:11The Torah was given right mass revelation.
- 22:14So it's never done with less than 10.
- 22:16So therefore this is a, we want the people, the community to
- 22:20testify that the Mila was done. And so therefore there's an
- 22:24Indian to also do it with no less than 10 people.
- 22:27The La Bush says it's sort of just you want to be Lafarcim
- 22:30just to publicize that there was a bristmilla and it was done.
- 22:33It was done kosher Yid, and that's what we want.
- 22:36That also might be an aspect of Kirishisha, maybe Makayam, the
- 22:41bristmilla between US and the Kurdish Barku.
- 22:44One last thought, what if you have to wait till after midday
- 22:47in order to get a minion? So there the Miniac and Yalko
- 22:50Josef and others say even though you'll want to do a Bristmilla
- 22:53in the morning, well to get a minion that's worth pushing off
- 22:56a few hours, but only that day. Everyone says for sure you don't
- 23:01need a minion and you will never push it off an extra day just to
- 23:04get a minion.