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Red wave incoming · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Sometimes from the darkest moments come the brightest day. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: sometimes good does indeed come from bad and over the
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  Speaker 1: past the past few days, the Charlie Kirk story has
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  Speaker 1: dominated the news, not only his assassination, but the manhunt
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  Speaker 1: that followed, the heroics story. As far as I'm concerned
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  Speaker 1: of his parents, Mark and I were just talking with
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  Speaker 1: Alex Stone here before the end of the last hour
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  Speaker 1: about how that situation developed. It was mom, And I've
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  Speaker 1: been seeing this from a male perspective, only because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a male, and so I was thinking about how Dad
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  Speaker 1: handled this. I hadn't even thought about mom. Mom was
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  Speaker 1: not even in the equation for me. But apparently apparently
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  Speaker 1: it was his mom who saw the news coverage, saw
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  Speaker 1: the picture and told her husband, I think that's our son,
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  Speaker 1: And they called him and said, come over to the house.
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  Speaker 1: We want to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Something else that Mark and I have talked about off
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  Speaker 1: the air. If I were in that position of those parents, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I would have turned him in if
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  Speaker 1: I knew that was my son. Yes, I would have
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  Speaker 1: turned him in. Painful though it may be, it is
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  Speaker 1: the right thing to do, and Dad gone it. If
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  Speaker 1: you can't do the right thing. You can't teach the
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  Speaker 1: right thing to your children. You stood for nothing. Even
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  Speaker 1: if it's painful, telling the truth, doing the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: it matters. It may not be stylish in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: but it matters. And so I have such profound appreciation
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  Speaker 1: and respect for those parents. But when my son came
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  Speaker 1: to my house to speak with me after I knew
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  Speaker 1: he was the one who did this, honestly, I told
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  Speaker 1: Mark I'd be armed. And I don't think that's hurtful,
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  Speaker 1: hateful anything. I think that's practical. If you look and
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  Speaker 1: your son just just wo Your son just took a life,
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  Speaker 1: and the whole world saw it out of his twisted logic,
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  Speaker 1: his demented perception, he killed someone thinking I'm quite sure
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  Speaker 1: he was doing the right thing because he's so messed up,
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  Speaker 1: and he's going to plead, you know, insanity or some
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  Speaker 1: form of diminished capacity most likely. But I would have
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  Speaker 1: been armed knowing that he was coming to the house,
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  Speaker 1: as sad as that is to say, because again, I
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  Speaker 1: think that's only logical, it's only reasonable, it's practical. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, they announced today that they will be seeking
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  Speaker 1: the death penalty. Let me explain to you, why I
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  Speaker 1: think that may be more of a challenge than you
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  Speaker 1: want it to be, Zachi, any idea where I'm going
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  Speaker 1: with that? Why I think it's a challenge to get
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  Speaker 1: a death penalty conviction in this case.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he pleads insanity or there's some sort of
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  Speaker 2: he can go to a mental hospital instead, or I'm
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  Speaker 2: not exactly sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest hurtle they are going to have
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  Speaker 1: is where this happened. While Utah does have a death penalty,
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  Speaker 1: Utah also has a very high Mormon population, and the Mormons,
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  Speaker 1: as a general rule a Phillis point, are absolutely against
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  Speaker 1: capital punishment. So while they may be appalled and believe
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  Speaker 1: that justice must be served, I don't know, without blatantly
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  Speaker 1: discriminating against people due to their religious beliefs, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how they're going to ipanel a jury with any
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  Speaker 1: degree of confidence that they get a conviction. And if
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  Speaker 1: if the only option for the jury is to convict
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  Speaker 1: on the charge of first degree murder with death penalty specifications,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not, I worry this guy may not
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  Speaker 1: get convicted. Feel free, by the way, to explain to
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  Speaker 1: me why you might disagree with me. You're always welcome
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  Speaker 1: to do that, debate, discussion, disagreement with respect. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about. A two one nine eight eighty six,
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  Speaker 1: A two one WTV N. It is, it's obvious, it's
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  Speaker 1: a parent. It is a no brainer. As they say
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  Speaker 1: that he he is absolutely guilty of the assassination and
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  Speaker 1: I used that word very intentionally, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know that a conviction, especially with a
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  Speaker 1: death penalty specification, is going to be as easy as
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  Speaker 1: we might think from the outside looking in. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: does any of that equate to what I started with,
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  Speaker 1: which was good coming from bad, positive from tragedy. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what's coming that's good. A few years ago, was it
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, there was chalk of a red wave.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't get away from the talk it was gonna happen,
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  Speaker 1: the red wave. It was coming, man, it was coming,
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  Speaker 1: It was coming, and then it didn't. I am here
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  Speaker 1: to tell you tonight that I think it's coming. I
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  Speaker 1: think right now before us we have a motivational opportunity
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  Speaker 1: not only to get out and vote, but to get
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  Speaker 1: out and run the left. And I'm not saying Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: because I know Democrats who are good and decent people.
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  Speaker 1: We'd philosophically disagree on stuff, but they're good and decent people.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying democrats. I'm saying the Left is showing
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  Speaker 1: themselves now for what they are, and many people in
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  Speaker 1: this country who thought they were aligned with that mindset
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  Speaker 1: are finding it appalling. We spoke earlier of a judge
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  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County celebrating the assassination doctors, nurses, heads of companies.
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  Speaker 1: Another down in Cincinnati, that restaurant, one of the owners
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  Speaker 1: gets online celebrating the assassination. They cut ties with him.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen King will come to the house and read his
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  Speaker 1: new book to you, just to get some exposure for
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  Speaker 1: it because he got online spouting his nastiness. There is
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity here. I'm not saying to take control. I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying to at least be in the conversation, in the negotiation,
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  Speaker 1: in the situation again, instead of having cities and states
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  Speaker 1: around this country like Columbus, Ohio where their single party rule.
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  Speaker 1: There is opportunity again. And these these nasty, vengeful, spiteful, means, spirited,
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  Speaker 1: foul thinking people that are showing themselves for what they are,
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  Speaker 1: and they are in elected office, You've got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to get them out of elected office. Right here, right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the red wave is entirely possible, more
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  Speaker 1: so than it probably has been in my life. From
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  Speaker 1: the tragedy can come a positive or again, maybe that's
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  Speaker 1: just me eight two one nine eight eight six two
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you for taking my call. I back
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  Speaker 2: you one on everything you're talking about, because I think
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  Speaker 2: it's time, it's very much beyond time that America wakes up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we just keep on harboring these people that
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you've done it, you've done it. There's
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  Speaker 2: no you know, putting them on death row and all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. If you're guilty, you're guilty. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it's high time that people stand up and people to
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  Speaker 2: wake up. American needs to wake up.
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  Speaker 1: The idea of this young man, I mean, he's only
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty two, twenty three something like that. The
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  Speaker 1: idea of him spending the next sixty five years living
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  Speaker 1: at our expense for doing what he did is very
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  Speaker 1: very distasteful to me. But you know, that's that's how
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  Speaker 1: things go, and life imprisonment is probably much more likely
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  Speaker 1: than a death penalty case. They may go for it,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think they're going to get it. And
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  Speaker 1: I just when you are absolutely guilty, when there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt of your guilt, going through this silly process where
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  Speaker 1: it takes you five six years to get into a
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  Speaker 1: courtroom and you know, another twenty years of appeals and
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  Speaker 1: then you can't get convicted and then you live the rest,
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  Speaker 1: that's just that's stupid. You either have a death penalty
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  Speaker 1: or you don't if you got to use it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes to what do you.
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  Speaker 1: Think about that other part of what I'm saying? Do
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  Speaker 1: you see some positive coming out of all this? Do
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  Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying about the these crazy left
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  Speaker 1: nutcases showing themselves for what they are and giving us
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity right now to maybe get out here and
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  Speaker 1: actually go after some offices and win some elections. Again.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think this was There's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of good that comes out of this. It's a sad
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  Speaker 2: thing that happened to this young man, very sad, very tragic,
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  Speaker 2: but I think there's a lot of good, positive things
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna come out of this whole situation. I really
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  Speaker 2: do believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I think so too. I appreciate you, Tom, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being out there. And here's here's key. This is key.
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  Speaker 1: Listen closely. The parties had better get off their butts
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  Speaker 1: and do something. Don't just sit back and wait for
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  Speaker 1: stuff to happen. You need County parties need to be
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  Speaker 1: out there actively listening to recruiting candidates, holding classes. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what happens. Here's how you run. Here's the process. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what's expected of you as a candidate. Here's what you
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  Speaker 1: could expect from us as party leadership. This is how
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  Speaker 1: it works. You need to be doing that. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: speaking just about the Franklin County GOP, although I am.
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  Speaker 1: I am speaking about all county parties. I'm speaking about
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  Speaker 1: all state parties. We all know I'm not real happy
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  Speaker 1: with the Ohio Republican Party right now. This We did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing I was criticizing the Democrats for in
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  Speaker 1: the presidential election, when the Democrat voters went to the
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  Speaker 1: polls and voted to make Joe Biden, for some unknown reason,
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  Speaker 1: make Joe Biden their candidate. And then the party said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we saw your vote. But here's Kamala. They want to
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  Speaker 1: call the Republicans and Donald Trump and the MAGA movement
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  Speaker 1: a threat to democracy. That was a threat to democracy
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  Speaker 1: and the purest deforms. Your people voted, and you ignored
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  Speaker 1: your people based on political expediency, backdoor agreements and meetings
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  Speaker 1: that nobody knew about. You nullified the democratic process within
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. And I criticized them handily, openly and
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  Speaker 1: frequently for that. But honestly, the Ohio GOP didn't do
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  Speaker 1: much better when you know, so far ahead of the
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  Speaker 1: gubernatorial race, they told us who are candidate's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything bad about Vecca Ramaswami. Don't know
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  Speaker 1: anything about him, can't get him to talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: I've never had a conversation with the man. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying anything bad about him. What I'm saying is we
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  Speaker 1: got a long road between here and Tipperary, and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like jumping the gun and making this decision and
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  Speaker 1: saying this will be your candidate. That was pretty rough.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like it. Don't like it at all.