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Set 2: Asking Stu The Uncomfortable Questions · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Not something I want to address as the Knicks are
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  Speaker 1: headed into the NBA Finals, a very exciting time for me.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess I need to address this because Chris Cody,
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  Speaker 1: I love him to death, but he decided for once
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  Speaker 1: to bring work home with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes see, he decided to bring his work home with him.
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  Speaker 1: And he came up with a segment that they debuted
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday's show on Lebiitard Show, on my show, the
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  Speaker 1: show that still bears my name, called tough Questions and
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  Speaker 1: is he who is out sick today? And he's a
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  Speaker 1: journalist and he heard this segment and Izzy suddenly started
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  Speaker 1: to feel a little bit better because he wanted to
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  Speaker 1: counter their Q and A. And he has some tough
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  Speaker 1: questions for me. And so we have a news gathering
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  Speaker 1: organization here that we call the Daily Stews, and so
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  Speaker 1: Izzy is going to ask me some questions here in.
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  Speaker 2: Press conference style.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, some follow ups, some hard hitting questions, and
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  Speaker 1: if Taylor and Mikeya have any questions for me, they
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  Speaker 1: could chime in as well. All right, So that's how
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do it. Dan addressed our situation yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know he was going to do it on
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  Speaker 1: the air, but he did. So here we are, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Need to count it because that's what you do, radio beefs.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Is this tougher questions?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what this is? It is? It's annoying, is
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  Speaker 2: what it is. Yes, let's be perfectly clear.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Cody, as he told them the show, got drunk
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  Speaker 3: at bowling and decided to come home and record with
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  Speaker 3: a slight New York accent. Is somebody say himself saying
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  Speaker 3: tough questions?
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  Speaker 2: And that led to this?
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  Speaker 1: My man is a show producer I know is doing.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, how about you come up with a
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  Speaker 1: think about it Thursday?
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  Speaker 2: How about that? Or a mount rushmore Monday? Give me something,
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  Speaker 2: you know? Jeez?
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  Speaker 3: But let's let me ask you a couple of questions,
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  Speaker 3: all right, because yes, I did hear all of that
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  Speaker 3: after you alerted me that things have been said, and
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  Speaker 3: just a few things for clarification, all right, stup? Yes,
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  Speaker 3: in January when we first started the radio show, you
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  Speaker 3: said you'd be you'd consider going on a few shows
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  Speaker 3: I think sometime in either Tanuary or February on DLS.
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  Speaker 2: What happened there?
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  Speaker 3: Because you obviously didn't show up on any of those shows.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought I was going to do nine shows.
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  Speaker 1: I told the audience I should have updated the audience
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  Speaker 1: my apologies for not doing so.
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  Speaker 2: But it was it.
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  Speaker 1: Came with one condition, and I sent that condition over
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  Speaker 1: to Metal Arc and their answer was no. So, if
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  Speaker 1: you're wondering why I never did those nine shows, it
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  Speaker 1: came attached with one condition for me that Dan said
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  Speaker 1: no to. That's it, and so that's why you haven't
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  Speaker 1: been on since then. That's why I have not been
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  Speaker 1: on since then. They said no to what I asked for.
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  Speaker 1: It's something I think I'm entitled to at the very
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  Speaker 1: least have a conversation about. They were unwilling to do so,
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  Speaker 1: and so therefore I did not go do those shows.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, next one.
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  Speaker 3: Other things that sort of had me scratching my head.
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  Speaker 3: It was said, you still have a job there?
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  Speaker 2: Do you still have a job there?
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  Speaker 1: So, for the first time I could tell you in
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  Speaker 1: twenty plus years, right now was the first time. I
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  Speaker 1: have no contract, no contractual obligations to Dan, to the show,
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  Speaker 1: to Metal Arc, other than I believe I'm still the
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  Speaker 1: second largest shareholder of that company. But I do not
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  Speaker 1: have a contract. I will tell you Izzy that they
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  Speaker 1: offered me a deal, an extension to my current deal,
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  Speaker 1: and I came back with some you know, I countered,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the counters was asking Dan to come
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  Speaker 1: on this show, and they said no. In fact, what
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  Speaker 1: they said to me was this, we need stud to
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  Speaker 1: show up to a couple of shows to show that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to play ball before we agree or discuss
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  Speaker 1: any of this. And I said to them, twenty plus years,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not just showing up to you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: agreeing to show up and do a couple of test
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  Speaker 1: shows because you guys want to see that I'm nice, Like,
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  Speaker 1: get the hell out of here. If I agree to
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  Speaker 1: do the show, I will do the show that Dan
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  Speaker 1: and I have done for the last twenty years, and
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  Speaker 1: I will do it to the best of my abilities,
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  Speaker 1: like we've done for the last twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to mail it in. I yell at Dan.
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  Speaker 1: I want to try to work this stuff out so
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  Speaker 1: me and Dan could get back on the air together,
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  Speaker 1: because I heard what Dan said yesterday, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: part of me that wants that as well. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: for me, I wanted for him, I wanted for the
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  Speaker 1: show and mostly I wanted for the audience. So I
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  Speaker 1: am trying to work these things out, but I countered
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  Speaker 1: they said no to everything that I counted with.
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  Speaker 2: They said I needed to come in do a couple
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  Speaker 2: of test shows.
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  Speaker 3: Absurd And as somebody who is you know, before I
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  Speaker 3: was ever on the show, was obviously an avid listener.
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody knows it's better off if you're part
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  Speaker 3: of the show, so I don't think that's even a question, right.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the things that again was said which
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  Speaker 3: made me have me scratching my head a little harder
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  Speaker 3: was he said, you wanted to do this, meaning you
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  Speaker 3: wanted to peel off, create your own entity away from
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  Speaker 3: the Dan Lebotard Show and Metal Arc Media.
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  Speaker 2: How true is that?
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  Speaker 1: You see what he did with his eye there. You
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  Speaker 1: see how he delivered that question. Guys, I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: is he doing? He is really this is.
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  Speaker 2: Him his glory right here.
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  Speaker 1: He is no longer a journalist and he gets to
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  Speaker 1: ask me pressing.
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  Speaker 2: Questions, asking for the people.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I forgot the question. I was so focused on
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  Speaker 1: your delivery.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when it was said that you wanted to
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  Speaker 3: do this meaning I feel off and do this on
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  Speaker 3: your own yes, how true is that?
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  Speaker 2: So listen.
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  Speaker 1: I have had discussions and I've said it on air
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  Speaker 1: on hour show. I think I did an interview with
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  Speaker 1: David Samson not too long ago where I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, when you play the role that I've played
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  Speaker 1: for as long as I've played it, you get into
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  Speaker 1: the industry wanting to do one thing, but then you
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  Speaker 1: find an opportunity, with a great opportunity, sitting next to
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  Speaker 1: Dan LeBatard, and you have to play a different role
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  Speaker 1: than you envision and that role is difficult. It is tough.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Dan was hard on me and has been
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  Speaker 1: hard on me. I'm okay with it. I'm accepting of it.
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  Speaker 1: It obviously served me and him very very well, and
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  Speaker 1: it served the show very very well. But of course, naturally,
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  Speaker 1: after twenty years or along the way those twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I had thoughts of doing things on my own.
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  Speaker 1: I never kind of knew what they would be. I
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  Speaker 1: never knew the timing on any of it. And so
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  Speaker 1: those are things and thoughts that I've had. I've expressed
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  Speaker 1: those out loud before both on our show to Dan,
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  Speaker 1: but I never is he imagined doing it outside of
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  Speaker 1: the confines of the company that I helped create, and
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  Speaker 1: so that's the part that's really frustrating. I don't mind
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  Speaker 1: doing it. I love what we're doing. This show has
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  Speaker 1: been cathartic for me. It has been therapeutic for me.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love working with Taylor, I love
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  Speaker 1: working with you, I love Mike Ea. I love what
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  Speaker 1: we have built here so far, and we're just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: But I would have liked the opportunity to do it
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  Speaker 1: within the confines of the company that I built with
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  Speaker 1: Dan Lebatord, and I was never afforded that opportunity. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what Dan says, never ever afforded that opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: And since we're here, one of the other things he
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  Speaker 1: said is that he helped me with this. He did
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  Speaker 1: not not help me with this. Okay, helping me with
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  Speaker 1: this would be doing it within the confines of the
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  Speaker 1: company that I helped build. Again, that was not afforded
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  Speaker 1: to me, and no one over there help me with
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  Speaker 1: any of this. This was done on my own.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Stut.
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  Speaker 3: As much as I've gotten to know you over the
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  Speaker 3: past year, I can tell when things really are starting
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  Speaker 3: to trigger you, and I can tell that you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: are getting worked up, and I don't want you. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want you to do that because I know you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to come across that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to get worked up. This is all
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: People who listen to that show, they know fans of
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  Speaker 1: the show, and I love you, and I want what
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  Speaker 1: Dan wants. I want to make you happy. You guys
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  Speaker 1: deserve an explanation. You were with us for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: and you mean a lot to both of us. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that, you really do. You mean a lot to
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  Speaker 1: both of us. But the people who listen to this
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  Speaker 1: show with consistency, they should know there is no way
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  Speaker 1: in hell that I would ever leave the show the
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  Speaker 1: way I've left the show. They know I care too
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  Speaker 1: much about it. I dumped an entire twenty years of
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  Speaker 1: my life into helping build that radio show and make
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  Speaker 1: that show great. And I do view me and Dani's
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  Speaker 1: partners in that company and in that show, and there
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  Speaker 1: is no way you guys know me, The audience knows me,
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  Speaker 1: Everyone in this industry knows me. I would not leave
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  Speaker 1: under those terms. That's just not the way I would
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  Speaker 1: do it. So that's all I can tell you on
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  Speaker 1: that front. Is he I'm trying not to get too
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  Speaker 1: excited here.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I appreciate it. I appreciate you being raw
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  Speaker 3: and fully transparent.
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  Speaker 2: Uncomfortable as a yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I'm curious though, because this is probably the
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  Speaker 3: best question that was asked by Greg Cody on the show,
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  Speaker 3: and he had to follow up as well.
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  Speaker 2: So journalists. I mean, that's what he was done by him.
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  Speaker 3: What is the relationship like right now between you and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I know Dan said he loves me.
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  Speaker 1: I love Dan despite all of this.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love Dan and I have respect for
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  Speaker 1: what it is that he and I built together. Is
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  Speaker 1: he I would say that we're probably on the mount
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  Speaker 1: rush More of sports radio shows throughout the course of history.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm giving ourselves too much credit, but I firmly
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  Speaker 1: do believe that, and so I am proud of that.
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  Speaker 1: The relationship is what it is right now. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to get together, We're trying to communicate.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this. I sent them a text, dizzy.
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  Speaker 1: I offered to meet with him because things have slowed
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  Speaker 1: down for me have slowed down a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Here for me. I agreed to or offered to meet with.
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  Speaker 1: Him any time he wants this weekend, and so my
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  Speaker 1: hope is Dan and I will meet up or we'll
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  Speaker 1: speak on the phone and we'll try to hash this out.
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  Speaker 1: But if we continue to have the same goddamn conversation
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  Speaker 1: that he and I have been having now for almost
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  Speaker 1: a year, I'm telling you I'm getting pretty close to
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  Speaker 1: giving up. So I'm going to give it one more
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  Speaker 1: try here. I'm going to try to connect with Dan
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, either in person or on the phone, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get to some sort of resolution because I
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  Speaker 1: think I need it, I know he needs it, and
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  Speaker 1: I know the audience needs it, and I think everyone's
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  Speaker 1: tired of this bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Stu.
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  Speaker 3: I want to circle back to something because I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of people listening wondering what I'm about
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  Speaker 3: to ask you.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus, a job.
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  Speaker 3: I love questions, man, that's my thing.
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  Speaker 1: You're jumping back to a question now that I've already answered.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus, I should have had mikey A or
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  Speaker 1: Taylor do this go ahead?
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  Speaker 3: What was the condition?
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  Speaker 2: How reasonable? Jesus, you're putting me on the spot. This
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  Speaker 2: is what the Daily studs do.
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  Speaker 3: How reasonable was the condition If you don't want to
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  Speaker 3: answer specifically what it was because the negotiations can be tricky.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was fair.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's something that Dan can deliver on if
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to deliver on it. Because it's Dan's it's
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  Speaker 1: dance company. He has made that very very clear. So
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  Speaker 1: if Dan wants to deliver on something, he could deliver
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  Speaker 1: on anything. And what I asked for is something that
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we should share in and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to give too many more details other than that,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I certainly think a conversation about
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  Speaker 1: it is fair instead of just getting a flat no.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not person specific, like it's not like I
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  Speaker 1: don't want Zaslow sitting.
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  Speaker 2: In no No. I love Zaslow.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, if I actually left the show on my own terms,
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  Speaker 1: Zaslow would be one of the people on a very
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  Speaker 1: short list that I would handpick to replace myself.
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  Speaker 2: I love Zaslow is talented.
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  Speaker 1: I am sorry that he and everyone else has been
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  Speaker 1: caught in the middle of this ridiculous thing. But no,
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  Speaker 1: it was not about a person. It was not about
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  Speaker 1: any single person at that place.
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  Speaker 2: Man. I so badly wanted to make a Chris Cody joke,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Not about a career. Yes, there are parts of that
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  Speaker 1: business that are hard. The hard part should never be
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  Speaker 1: me and my place within that company and on that show,
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  Speaker 1: And somehow it became difficult out of nowhere magically, And
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  Speaker 1: so I know the audience wants more details on stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. Those are details I'm not willing to give yet.
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  Speaker 1: Until I talked to Dan. This is gonna be my
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  Speaker 1: story to share because in a rare twist, is he
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  Speaker 1: I have the truth.
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  Speaker 2: On my side.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I know what happened, and so I know how
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  Speaker 1: it went down, and I know people want to know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable telling people. But I am telling Dan,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm telling everyone this right now. If we don't
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  Speaker 1: get to some sort of resolution soon, some sort of
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  Speaker 1: resolution that I'm happy with, I do want to come back.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be a part of it. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do all of these things that
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  Speaker 1: we're doing at some of the stuff over there. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to make the audience happy, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to make me happier, it's gonna make everyone happier. But
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  Speaker 1: we need to get to some sort of resolution soon,
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  Speaker 1: because I will not allow Dan to tell his version
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  Speaker 1: of the truth without me rebudding and without me having
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  Speaker 1: a say in it, because I am telling you right
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  Speaker 1: now the only person in this equation, And this sounds
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  Speaker 1: odd to our audience, okay, because I've been painted as
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  Speaker 1: a liar, a phony, and a fraud for twenty two years.
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  Speaker 1: But the person who has the truth on their side
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  Speaker 1: in this particular case is me.
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  Speaker 2: Me, That's it.
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  Speaker 3: And let me just say this as I'm sort of
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  Speaker 3: painting myself as a person who's just asking the questions here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look a lot of people that I like over there.
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  Speaker 3: I love a lot of people over there, and so
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  Speaker 3: all of this makes me wildly uncomfortable. But I echo
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  Speaker 3: what you just said, and you know, there's a reason
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  Speaker 3: why I'm here, and so.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason you're not allowed back. I mean, how about.
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  Speaker 3: That the first time being outcast?
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  Speaker 2: He's got that podcast for those I saw another episode to.
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  Speaker 3: The one guy on Instagram who said if she's playing
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  Speaker 3: bull shine, Yeah that was that was recorded last year. Ageah,
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  Speaker 3: just I was not did not go back to metal
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  Speaker 3: like that was recorded last year. It's just released now,
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  Speaker 3: is he?
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  Speaker 1: Let me say this. I will uh, I will give
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  Speaker 1: Dan credit. He has recently tried to reach out. I
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  Speaker 1: have heard a different tone in his voice when he
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  Speaker 1: has left a voicemail or when we have spoken, So
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  Speaker 1: he is trying here, okay, And I'm just telling the
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  Speaker 1: audience I want resolution as well. I want it to
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  Speaker 1: be positive. I want to have a good relationship with
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  Speaker 1: everyone over there moving forward. But Dan and I have
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  Speaker 1: to get to some sort of resolution where Dan acknowledges
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  Speaker 1: to me what it is that actually happened, how it
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  Speaker 1: went down, and if we can't climb that hurdle, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a difficult roadback for me. I do
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  Speaker 1: want all the right things. I've always wanted all the
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  Speaker 1: right things. I love that show, I love the people
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  Speaker 1: involved in that show. I'm very proud of that show.
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  Speaker 1: But Dan has reached out. He has done so recently.
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  Speaker 1: He is inviting me back to the show, although I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a contract. But it's also convenient that he
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  Speaker 1: is now doing it at a time where I have
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  Speaker 1: been forced to go get four other jobs.