Latest / The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated / Iran: Congressional GOP Should Rally Around Victory

Transcript

Iran: Congressional GOP Should Rally Around Victory · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: hilldalet Hillsdale dot ed or. I encourage you to take
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: advantage of the many free online courses there, and of
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: course I listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue, all of them
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: at q for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple,
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale. Welcome back. I'm to Hewett, joined now
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: by Nebraska Senator deb Fisher. Senator Fisher is a member
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: of the United States Senate's Armed Services Committee. Senator welcome.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Give us your assessment of the first ten days of
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: the battle with Iran.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: Hik you.
• 0:32
  Speaker 3: It's just great to be with you. First of all,
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: I support the President and the administration's actions that they've.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Taken on a run.
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: This is a state sponsor of terrorism around the world.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: They are a threat to our country, so I think
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: that the actions are being taken.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Have been good. First of all, we've been given briefings.
• 0:55
  Speaker 3: A number of times. We just had another classified briefing
• 0:59
  Speaker 3: this morning on the Arm Services Committee about what's happening,
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: how it's progressing. But the administration's been clear, as I said,
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: on those military objectives, and that's to make sure that
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: Iran does not get a nuclear weapon.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: It's also to destroy their.
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: Ballistic missile capability right now.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: That short range and medium range.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: Capabilities that those ballistic missiles have. But looking forward, it
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: would be a year maybe two before Iran would have
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: an ICBM, an intercontinental ballistic missile.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: That can't happen. That would put Europe in play for them.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: It would be.
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: Dangerous, and then it's just not hopskipping a jump until
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: they would threaten the United States. So we need to
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: take out those capabilities. And then the third one was
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: to be able to destroy their navy, and we've seen
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of accomplishment there. Over thirty forty ships have
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: been taken out of action, and that's important due to
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: the straits of hormouse and commerce. We need to make
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: sure that that commerce can still travel safely through that area.
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: And by taking out their navy and taking out their
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: ballistic missiles, that's going to help us to make that
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: a safe passage once again.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: Senna Fisher, your colleague, Sennor Blimenthal from Connecticut is a Democrat.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: He came down to talk to reporters today and said
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: he'd been in a classified briefing and he believed we
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: were preparing to send ground troops to Iran. I don't
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: know where he got that. Have you heard that.
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: Senator Bloomenthal was in the same briefing that I was in, now, Hugh,
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: I don't talk about what we discuss in classified briefings,
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: but I can tell you that was.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: Not my understanding, and I was.
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: There throughout the major part of the brief including Sender
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: Blumenthal's questions that he asked, and I specifically asked some
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: questions related to ground troops as well as we both
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: known as your listeners know, the Department of War makes
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: plans for many contingencies.
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: That are out there. We want that to happen.
• 3:21
  Speaker 3: We want to be able to have our military look
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: at what the objectives are in any area to achieve
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: and then what steps they would take, and then to
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: practice on those. But it's up to the commander in chief.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: It's up to President Trump to determine when those plans
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: or if those plans are ever going to be put
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: into practice. We saw that with Venezuela and learned later
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: that that was a plan that had been in place
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: for many years, as well as the Twelve Day War
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: with Iran, when we did the bombing of their new
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: clear facilities, So I think it I would never have
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: phrased that the way that Senator Bluementhal tried to phrase
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: it with the press.
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: Now, I'd like to move on to the cost. It's
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: obviously large, and it's going to be getting larger and
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: perhaps into the hundreds of billions. So usually in wartime
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: and in time of a battle or a conflict, the
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: United States Congress would vote a supplemental appropriation. I don't
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: think the Democrats will support that. They're against this battle.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not even sure they want us to win this battle.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: But what about using reconciliation? Senator? That would require the
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: budget committees of both houses to agree on the top line,
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: on a DoD line, on a and then come to
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: your committee Committee of Authorization and then to appropriation. Is
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: that a simple majority? Is that on the table?
• 4:51
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: I think we need to look at everything.
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: This is important that we are able to pass additional
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: funding to cover the expenses that we're going to have
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: in protecting our national security by taking out, as I
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, number of the objectives that are that are
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: listed in Iran that we need to take out. We'll
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: see what happens the speaker. Speaker Johnson has talked about
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: doing a reconciliation in the House. We'll see if if
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: they're able to do that. I guess you, I still
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: have hopes that we can get a supplemental done. I
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: think the more information that the Administration can give us
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: here in the Senate, especially when we're trying to work
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: through this, and then also in the House giving us
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: that information so that we can have a better understanding
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: of what you know they're they're doing moving forward. So
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: I still have some hope for a supplemental. I think
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: there's different ways that we can put one together and
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: maybe address other issues besides just looking at around itself.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: Last question, Senator, I have not heard one Democrat unequivocally
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: embrace the idea of winning, of having this regime which
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: is a malign in evil presence and has been for
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: forty seven years. Fall have you heard any Democrat advocate
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: for by whatever means it comes about popular revolution, a
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: coup inside the regime itself at cracks, whether or not
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: we kill every Mula that ever wants to be the
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: supreme leader, I don't know how it is, But does
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: any Democrat speak in terms of winning and what an
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: unqualified good that would be for the world and for
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: the people of Iran.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard them say that. What I've heard from every.
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: Democrat is they always begin by saying, you know, we're
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: glad the Alatola.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Was taken out. He was an evil man, he needed
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: to be gone.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: But and then they go on in a not in
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: a supportive way for the actions that this administration is
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: taken in addressing it. You know, we've seen forty seven
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: years of Republican and Democrat administrations say that around is
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: a threat to this country. They've killed hundreds of Americans,
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: they sponsor terrorists around the world. We are not safe
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: because of the actions that they have and they were
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: continuing to work on developing and enriching uranium, developing a
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: nuclear weapon, continuing to work on their ballistic missiles and
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: also get ICBM.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: And yet we don't seem to hear that. I was
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: Say full throat in support from Democrats, but any of
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: support I agree from Democrats saying you know, this is
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: this is necessary, this has to happen.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: God bless our troops, God bless our commander in chief
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: for stepping forward and finally taking action to remove this evil, horrible,
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: threatening world, threatening a regime that only wanted to become
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: more and more emboldened so they could blackmail the world.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: It would be nice to hear one.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: Democratic understand why they can't do that.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: If you find one centator like Diogenes with a lamp,
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: please let me know and I'll interview them. Just one,
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: just one Democrat. Senator Deb Fisher from the Great Katy, Nebraska.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator. I'll be right back in America. Please
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: stay tuned the Sail News channel to Salem Radio Network
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: on our affiliated radio station. I'm he hewing Welcome back
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: in America. I'm huge few at David M. Drucker as
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: a senior political writer for The Dispatch in Washington, d
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: See David. I just spoke with Sender Deb Fisher of Nebraska,
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: and I asked her if one Democrat, one Democrat had
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: come out and unequivocally called for victory in the battle
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: with Iran so that the Iranian people might be free,
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: in the world a better place. And she said no,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: to her knowledge, have you heard even one Democrat call
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: for victory.
• 9:28
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think here.
• 9:29
  Speaker 6: I think we may have heard some sentiments like that
• 9:33
  Speaker 6: from possibly Josh Gotheimer in the House, Jared Moskowitz in
• 9:38
  Speaker 6: the House. Possibly Democrats have mostly focused their comments not
• 9:44
  Speaker 6: just on their opposition to the war generally, but their
• 9:48
  Speaker 6: argument that the administration hasn't laid out a reasoning for
• 9:54
  Speaker 6: why now, even though the Iranian threat they acknowledge exists.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: You know, after Yosemite sam on all of its neighbors
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: on day one of the battle, you would think it
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: would be self evident. But they're thick, or they are
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: ideologically incapable offending the hard left of their party. Here's
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: a tougher question. Should Republicans in the House and the
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Senate come out and put their arms around this battle,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: say it was right to have been begun, and we
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: need to win it in a decisive fashion. I don't
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: know what that looks like, but we need to win
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: it in decisive fashion because they're going to own it,
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: whether or not they want to own it. It's their party,
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: it's their president, it's our president. Actually it's all Americans president,
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: but it's their nominee who started it. So shouldn't they
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: own it?
• 10:41
  Speaker 6: Well, from a political perspective, you're making a really good
• 10:43
  Speaker 6: argument and I think most of them have been doing that.
• 10:46
  Speaker 6: It's just that you know, there are you know, some
• 10:48
  Speaker 6: dissident voices here, right. I mean, you know, as I've
• 10:51
  Speaker 6: reported and as I've discussed repeatedly over the past twelve
• 10:54
  Speaker 6: days or so, most Republican voters, including self identified MAGA voters,
• 10:59
  Speaker 6: are supportive of the president's action in Iran. But you
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: do have some loud voices on the right among influencers
• 11:08
  Speaker 6: and podcasters, a few politicians.
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: And some others who are.
• 11:13
  Speaker 6: Diametrically opposed to what the President's doing for all sorts
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: of reasons. And so I think some Republicans maybe have
• 11:19
  Speaker 6: treaded cautiously. I think some of them have been trying
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: to figure out what they're wrapping their arms around because
• 11:26
  Speaker 6: the administration hasn't been very forthcoming in its battle plan
• 11:30
  Speaker 6: broadly speaking, the why now and what.
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: The ultimate goal is.
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: But what I've heard from Republican elected is mostly you
• 11:38
  Speaker 6: is support or any or you know, at the very
• 11:41
  Speaker 6: least open minded is but mostly support. So I think
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: you're getting that, you know, I think you know, when
• 11:46
  Speaker 6: you look at Democrats, just to get back to that
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: point for.
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: A minute, that they have a fine find they have.
• 11:52
  Speaker 6: A tightrope to walk because you don't want to sound
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: like you don't understand the threat from Iran.
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: That Iran has posted those over the last.
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: Nearly fifty years with a budding nuclear weapons program. On
• 12:04
  Speaker 6: the other hand, their party, their voters are against the war,
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: and American voters broadly when you look at Democrats and
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: Independence against the war. So they don't have the same
• 12:14
  Speaker 6: pressures that Republicans might.
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: But your overall point is.
• 12:18
  Speaker 6: An apt one, and that Republicans are going to own
• 12:20
  Speaker 6: this whether they like it or not. So if they're
• 12:22
  Speaker 6: not on board, unless they have a philosophical opposition to it,
• 12:26
  Speaker 6: a principled opposition, you might as well speak up and
• 12:29
  Speaker 6: speak out and before it.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: That's my point. Deb Fisher, Nebraska, Tom Cotton Ark and
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: saw they both been on the last two days. They
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: are very much for winning, and they argue this is
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: a malign regime. The world would be a much better place,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: and certainly the Iranian people would be better off in
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: the Middle East, more secure and stable. The world would
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: be better off if Iran's regime collapse tomorrow or indeed
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: before nightfall today. But Republicans, I don't know, they're caught
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: up in process arguments. I don't hear it except individual interviews,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: and I think maybe Speaker Johnson I ought to go
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: out there and say, thump the table a little bit.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: We're in favor of winning. Yeah.
• 13:11
  Speaker 6: Look again, from a political standpoint, I think you're onto something.
• 13:15
  Speaker 6: I think part of the problem that Republicans may be having,
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: if this is something you're picking up on, and I
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: think you may be picking up on it more than me,
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: is that they don't really know what the whole point
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: is in terms of the why now. Look, I can
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: make a very good case to you personally about why
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: now in my opinion, right, I mean, I'm old enough
• 13:35
  Speaker 6: to have watched Iran and it's a bad regime and
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: it's bad actors and all of the.
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: State sponsored terrorism and everything.
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: Right, I can make a case that after fifty years,
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: we've tried diplomacy, every president's tried it. It was an admirable attempt.
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: We've done everything we could. And so maybe you disagree,
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: but there are risks to doing nothing. There are risks
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: to continuing diplomacy, and so this is why now. I
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: will tell you that outside of some occasional statements from
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: Marco Rubio, the administration has not had a uniform, unified,
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: really cogent argument for the why now and what the
• 14:12
  Speaker 6: ultimate goal is, and it is so much different than.
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: The Bush administration leading into Iraq.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: Notwithstanding, you know, most Americans have concluded the Iraq War
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: was a mistake and we didn't find weapons of mass destruction,
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: that administration made a unified, cogent argument for why they
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: were going in and what the goals were and what
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: they hoped to get out of that. And I think
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: to the extent that you don't hear like a sort
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: of unified Republican support for this thing is because they're
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: all trying to figure out what they're supposed to be supporting.
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: I mean said that, I mean, I've detected a lot
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: of support, but I think they're waiting to echo whatever
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: the administration's rationale is, and they keep hearing different arguments
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: on different days.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a very well taken point. I think
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: they ought to be supportive ex extraordinarily of winning and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: winning will be defined at a later date, but we'll
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: know it when we see it sort of Supreme Court test,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and it might be it might not be a white flag, David.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: It might be Larajani Dad Hamany two point zero, who's
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: already in a Koma Dad. It might be the people
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: of Iran back and I don't know what it's going
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to look like. But the key is the inability of
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Iran to terrorize its neighbors and supply China with oil,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and that basically it.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: Well that's one version of it. But let me just
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: play devil's advocate for a minute. We can look back
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: on Iraq two thousand and three and what ultimately happened
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day after the surge and
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: all the blood and treasure that the US invested in
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: that war, and say that we achieved an objective. We
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: got rid of Zadam Hussein, We installed at least the
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: quasi democratic government in there that was no longer a
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: threat to the.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: US or its neighbors.
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: That's all true, and yet most Americans will tell you,
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: generally speaking, that war was a mistake.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: We lost, We didn't accomplish anything.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I agree, but that's because Obama came in after the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: color fact.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: But that that may be true. That may be true.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: But my point here is Hugh to play devil's advocate,
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: is that I don't think you can say, well, we'll
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: know what winning looks like when we see it, because
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: there could be a lot of follow on consequences to
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: the war that we've you know, that we've initiated over
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: the past twelve days. I just said, and I believe this.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: I can make a great case for doing it. What
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: the objection should be and can be and why and why?
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: Now I'm just saying the administration hasn't done a good
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: job of giving Republican something that she.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Wants, and I think they may be too afraid of Iraq,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: when in fact Iraq was a success and is a success.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And thank God today I mis James not untill there.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: David M. Drucker follow my next free him at the Dispatch.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Americans America, I'm too cute. Joined
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: by Brett Bair. He was the host of Special Reports,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: America's Newsman. Actually it's an anchor and you can watch
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: them tonight at six pm on the Fox News Channel. Brett, welcome.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember if you arrived in DC for
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Fox the week before or the week after nine to eleven?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Was it before after?
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: On?
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: On?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Okay? So yeah, you've been there for nine to eleven.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: You've been there for two thousand and three, so two
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: invasions Afghanistan and Ibrock. You were there for the Libyan
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: operation under President Obama. You have covered Midnight Hammer, You've
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: all the drones that all the presidents have used, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: now you're covering this conflict. Is this the most partisan
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: of all of those?
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: Yes, I'm pretty sure. I'm thinking back in the rolodex
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: of my brain if there was as much of a split. No,
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: I think this is the most partisan of all of them.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: That's my assessment too. I just had on deb Fisher
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: of Nebraska. She went to the same briefing as Senator
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Blumenthal of Connecticut, and I think both have been on
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: your program. And Senator Blumenthal came out and said, I'm
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: afraid we're head towards ground trips in Iran. And she
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: came out and said, I didn't hear that at all,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: but you wouldn't talk about what you did here. Is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that just the new normal? Yeah?
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: I think people are hearing different things and the same briefing.
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: We saw that with the drug boats off of Venezuela.
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: We saw that with you know a number of things
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: where senators from different parties here completely different things. This is,
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: you know, I don't get a sense at all that
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: there is a massive effort for ground troops in Iran.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: In fact, I get the sense of exactly the opposite,
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: that the President was signaling and trying to tell the
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: markets and the oil companies and the American consumer at
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: the gas pump that there is a light at the
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: end of the tunnel, that our objectives are going to
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: be met and we're going to work with whatever comes
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: out of Iran after that. So, you know, I took
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: that as I'm going on the a trip with President
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: Trump March twenty ninth, I think everything's going to be
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: wrapped up with a bow before them in their eyes.
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: As far as kinetic.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Action, Oh, that's the most aggressive timetable. I thought from
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a political standpoint, the President would have not later than
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the end of April and May maybe, but by June
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: people begin to lock in their political understanding of the war.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But you're saying before he sits down with g he
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: wants to have a result that he can retail when
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: he goes to sit down with you. By the way,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: on that trip, do you expect Jimmy Lai to come up?
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know if he's going to come up. You know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: I would think that there'll be questions one hundred percent.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: But whether the President brings that up don't You don't
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: know Behind closed doors he's got I think there's it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: a consequential moment to go to China at this moment,
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: in this environment, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: some big deal announced that we have yet to kind
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: of put our head around me.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: It is indeed, you're focusing on something that I hadn't
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: focused on. I'm glad you did that. I can think
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of a lot of summits that have not been consequential,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: but for a US president and the General Secretary of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party to meet at this moment that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Iran is in the balance is significant and China might
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: need help. I really do think they might need oil. Brett,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: do you agree with that?
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: I do.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, the.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: Tie of Venezuela and taking that avenue off, the kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: of whatever is going to happen with Ron and it's oil,
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: the situation with Russia. I think that there is, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: probably some kind of deal in the making that the
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: President envisions with all of these things at play don't suffer, guest,
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: excuse me that in that interim time over the next days,
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: we could see some change in Cuba that because they're
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: dealing with massive blackouts and protests almost every night now.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Asked to Cuba Brian kill me to ask me this
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: on Sunday Night's program. What what I thought was coming?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: And I think revolution, kind of revolution is coming, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I also think it's not going to be one that
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: we assist, but we will help with food ad because
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: we're not going to let the Cuban people starve. Do
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you agree with me on that?
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: I do?
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: And I think that if you think of effectiveness embargoes
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: effectively hurting the regime while letting business kind of bring
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: in some release to give up, they're they're in the
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: process of doing that. And we haven't covered it as
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: much as I want to because we obviously are dealing
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: with the action in Iran and other things. But I
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: really think that there is a change that's that's happening.
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: And he the presidents claims that Cuba's reaching out and
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: talking to Marco.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Ruviw imint and what year it would be if Venezuela,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like Cuba and Iran off flipped from being bad guys
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to wearing, if not white hats, at least hats that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: are somewhere around gray.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the politics. The
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: other thing. I haven't seen a lot of Senator Cotton
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: on this program, Senator Fisher on this program. They have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: been full throated in favor of winning. And the definition
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of winning is accordion and can be larger, it can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: be small, but they want to win, and they're not
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: afraid to say that. Have you had Republicans on your
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: show that we got to win, that this regime needs
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to fall.
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: You know, there's not a ton of people that are
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: ready to say that. Lindsey Graham is obviously one that
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: says it all the time. But I think that there
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: is a scaling back of objectives. As far as what
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: the US wants, what Israel wants is something different. If
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: it happened, I think there'd be a lot of politicians
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: who who said they think it's good for the world
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: that that regime changed. But as far as US, the
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: US being the catalyst for that, I think they can help,
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: but not do it now.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Brett, there's something unusual going on. I've never seen it
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. The President of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: United States calls up reporters. It's like he has a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: darkboard and he throws it dark. And if it's said
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it's Brett Bahre or you Hewett, don't call him up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: And he caught up Brian killed me on Sunday night.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: What is he doing? It's unusual, it's unprecedented, and I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: I mean, you talk about getting a message out, that's
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: a way to do it. He sees somebody on TV,
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: he sees somebody saying something, and he says, get me
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: that number, and I'm going to call them. I've had
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: you know, conversations obviously with President Trump for a number
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: of years off the record. I think is the cadence
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: in which he's calling reporters and anchors or they're calling him.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: A lot of people have his number now and he's answering.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: He's called him three times. I got Jonathan Carl said
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he's called him three times.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I've called him, you know, wanting to know something.
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: He'll pick up in the Oval office and he's I'm
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: sitting here with Sixtair Rubio and Vice President's vance and
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: you know, you're thinking, you're going to get a the
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: answer machine and maybe somebody will call back. He picks
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: up and he says, you know, hold on, Vice President's here,
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: sectors here, and you know you feel like, well, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: don't want to interrupt, you know, But he does pick up,
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: and he wants to get his message out.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And he's doing it a different It's unusual.
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: I think it'd be tough to be Caroline Levitt hment.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, last question, Senator Cotton gave a speech today
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: about anti semitism in the influencer world on the right
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: wing ecosphere. I don't know that we'll get picked up.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think it it's extraordinarily significant, not unlike William F.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Buckley taking on the McCarthy Heights in the fifties. What
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: do you think of Senator Cotton's remarks.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: I think he's laying down a marker. I think it's
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: a concern inside the Republican Party that there is. I mean, obviously,
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: everybody's for a free speech and everybody's for expressing yourself,
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: but it does seem to come from a point of
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: view and some of those folks are getting incoming based
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: on some of those influencers, and I think Tom Cotton
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: is expressing the pushback.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Center Cotton, good for him. Brett Bear always good
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to talk to you. We'll be watching tonight at six
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: pm on the Fox News Channel, a special report gets going.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Always watch it, America's anchorman. Thank you, Brett, Welcome back
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in America. Alex Gray is the CEO of American Global Strategies.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: In term one of Donald Trump, he was the Chief
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: of Staff at the National Security Council. Alex Gray, welcome back.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Can you begin by telling us what you think whoever
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: has your job in tom II is doing this week,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: because it's got to be wild. Yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: I can only imagine Hugh and having been there in
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: some wild moments, I think this may top them all. Look,
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: the biggest role that the National Security Council plays is
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: making sure that the information from the interagency, from the
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: intelligence community, from allies and partners gets disseminated through the
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: chain of command to the president in an actionable way
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: that gives some policy options. And you have multiple simultaneous,
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: somewhat interconnected crises going on, whether it's Cuba, Venezuela, obviously Iran,
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: but then the Ripplan effects with China, the upcoming trip
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: to China, the trade dynamics of that the Russia Ukraine
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: conflict and the interconnection with the Iran conflict. So what
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: you're going to be dealing with in that role is
• 27:00
  Speaker 11: this massive amount of incoming somewhat raw information that has
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: to be taken, synthesized, put into some form of useful
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: and actionable information, and then relate to decision makers up
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: to the President, including Secretary slash National Security Advisor Rubio,
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: in a way that they can make some sense out
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: of and turn into policy. And that is right now,
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: that's going to be one heck of a.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Job, Alex Gray. I'll come back to the battle with
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: they're on in a moment. But you did bring up
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the president's scheduled trip to China where he'll sit down
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with General Secretary Gi. We've had precedents like that before
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: during the Cold War one when President Nixon another would
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: sit down with Brashev or Joe and Lyon Mao. When
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you add really no idea what the purpose was? What
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: do you think the purpose of this is?
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: Well, look, I think the purpose of this is to
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: give us something approaching and equilibrium. I don't think there's
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: any question that the President identifies China as the pacing
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: threat as the consequential national security challenge of our time.
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: But I think the President did identify something based on
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: what happened after Liberation Day. He identified that because of
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: multiple administrations of both parties and their failure to prepare
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: our industrial base and our supply chains and to take
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: the proactive measures necessary, we don't have critical capacity in
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: things like rare earths and critical minerals and other things
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: that will give us the resilience and redundancy to sustain
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: the type of long term competition we need to have
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: with China. And I think the President realizes that he
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: has to buy us a little bit of time on
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: the economic front, which obviously has broader strategic implications, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: he's got to buy us a little bit of time
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: to get our own house in order. You're seeing him
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: taking really important steps to get those critical minerals and
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: rare earths in fighting shape. But I think part of
• 28:57
  Speaker 11: the purpose of the summit is to come in from
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: a position of strength, which he very much has following
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: Venezuela and Iran. He made a little allusion to that
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: earlier when he noted in a remark yesterday that we
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: don't have the dependency on oil from the Middle East
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: that the Chinese do. It was a very clear to me,
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: a very clear jab at hi jimping about who has leverage.
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: But at the same time, going into this talk, these talks,
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: the President has I think, has come to the realization
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: that we have to at least get the US China
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: relationship and something approaching equilibrium so he can take the
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: time needed to get us prepared for the long term,
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: which Hugh, I think we learned over the last year.
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: We don't have the depth of resilience, particularly in the
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: industrial base, that we need to have for success in
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: the long term.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that. I would like to see
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a supplemental that addresses that, or at least a second
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: reconciliation that can pass on a majority vote that addresses funding.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And the National Security Council will ever get involved with
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the omb's discussion about Department of War funding. Alex that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: part of the wrint over there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: To some extent. You know, when I was there, Ambassador O'Brien,
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: the National Security Advisor, and Russ Vought then and now
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: Director of O and B. They had a great relationship.
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: They saw eye to eye on a lot of the
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: big questions we faced, including rebuilding the Navy and the
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: building our space capabilities. I think there's a lot there
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: should be a lot of interaction where NSC helps set
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: you take the president's priorities and then turn with O
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: and B turn those big strategic priorities into dollars and
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: cents that can go to Congress and turn into resources.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Alex Gray, I know in Trump won, the National Security
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of Council helped President Trump put a focus on and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a demand signal out for hypersonic missiles and other weapons
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of the New war, the war that we're watching right now,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: which is not a ground game, it is a standoff
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: or standover if you're unthreatened. Do you think that the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: demand signal coming out of this battle is going to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: be more of that? Please?
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: Absolutely, Look, I don't think that we can have both
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: of these things be true at the same time. On
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: the one hand, we don't have sufficient munitions for what
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: we need to do in the potential Taiwan straight into
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: Pacific scenario. That's manifestly true. On the other hand, we
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: can't allow ourselves to be hamstrung in other critical theaters
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: just because previous administrations have failed to prepare the inventories
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: and stockpiles that we need. Both of those statements can
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: be true, and I think they are the president. Frankly,
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: the people who are making the argument that we don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: have sufficient munitions to do what needs to be done
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: in Iran, I think they're missing the bigger picture, which
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: is that doing what needs to be done in Iran will, finally,
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: if the President is successful, as I believe he will be,
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: will free us up to be able to extricate ourselves
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: from the Middle East finally, to eventually do the pivot
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: that Hillary Clinton prom is sixteen years ago. We will
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: not be able to do that unless we can actually
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: extricate ourselves from the Middle East. This action could let
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: us do that, And it also, Hugh, I think reinforces
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: the need to do a full peacetime mobilization, like it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty to build the munitions in
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: an industrial base for an Asia Pacific scenario, now long
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: before it's actually needed.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: You mentioned success in this mission. How do you define
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that outlex.
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: I think the President has three operational metrics that I
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: think are sound, and Frankly, if you listen to General Kaine,
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: it sounds like We're very close to meeting those metrics.
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: So it's destruction of the terrorist proxies, the nuclear program,
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: and the missile program. I think those are three very
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: very important operational metrics that we're tracking. I think the
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: strategic question is, can we do something in a modified
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: form analogous to what happened with Delcy Rodgrie in Venezuela,
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: where you can use the operational success to have impact
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: and influence on the next leadership of Iran such that
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: they will change behavior enough to bias the time to
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: finally stop this twenty five year whack a mole game
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: we play with Iran where we are constantly going back
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: into the Middle East in some form to deal with
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: their malign behavior. We have to have enough of a change.
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: This doesn't mean we have to choose leadership. We doesn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: mean we have to choose the government of Iran, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: it means we have to have enough influence in suasion
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: over that government so that we can eventually make the
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: full pivot to the Indo Pacific that I think most
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: of us agree eventually has.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: To be done.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Alex greg CEO of American and Global Strategy for Chief
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: of Staff at the National Security Council during the first
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: term at President Trump, thank you for joining me. Don't
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: go anywhere, America. I'm coming right back. I got lots
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: more of the tape, and again I may play again,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Chairman a Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Kine. Summary of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the metrics. Thus, far more than fifty ships of the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Iranian Navy are now at the bottom, and we're not
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: even getting started on the ships. Stay tuned in America.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm joined now by Rich Lowry of National View. Rich,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: do you think the President or the Republicans are making
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the case for the battle with Iran in sufficiently moral terms?
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Not a strategic and technical, but moral terms? Well, not really.
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: I don't think there's been enough of the case made.
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: It would be much better if there's a big case
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: made beforehand instead, In part because they had the target
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: of opportunity hitting the eye toll right at the outset, there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: Wasn't much of the case made at all.
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: Right, it was an afterthought in the State of the Union,
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: maybe a passing reference at Many minute ninety or something,
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: in part because they wanted to maintain the.
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: Element of surprise.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: But I think they've been behind the eight ball in
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: terms of making the case public case for this Hue
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: literally from the beginning.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Now, I would like Secretary Ruby to do that because
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he is a set piece speaker. The president is better
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: in an exchange. By the way, what do you make
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I asked quit bare this earlier. I've been covering politics
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: for thirty five years. I have never seen a chief
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: executive call this many reporters or accept their call.
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: Have you, No, it's extraordinary, but this has always been.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: He's just extremely accessible. He wasn't the first term.
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: He has been in the second term. And he'll pretty
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: much call anyone who call him.
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: Went back, who attempts to call him. I had an
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: incident in the first term, or I hadn't talked to him.
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: You know, we weren't huge Trump fans. Obviously that that
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: primary said, there's some after effects of that. And I
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: just called the switchboard one night, the White House switchboard, and.
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: He called me back the next day.
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: And I told Lindsay Graham about this, and Graham said, yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: he's the most successful person in Washington. And Graham said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: when he was having trouble getting Pompeio on the phone,
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: he'd called Trump to call to.
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: Get Pompeio to call him back. So this is just
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: as typical of Hope.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Well, Lindsey Graham is actually Centator Cotton very consistent. Lindsay
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Graham is very consistent. They want to win. Today, Senator
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Cotton and Senator Cruz held an anti Semitism function in
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: which they invoked your predecessor Bill Buckley as having driven
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the anti Semites out of the Republican Party in the fifties.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: They also drove out the Birchers, who were more expansive
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in their hatreds than just anti Semitism. What do you
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: make of that? I think it's long overdue, and all
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: honor to Jefferson, as Lincoln said, all honor to Cotton
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and Cruise.
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this is actually a nast review events.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that that we did.
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that we did this morning in conjunction with the RJC,
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: and they're both excellent.
• 36:46
  Speaker 13: Banks.
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: Centator Banks was there as well and very good. But
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: Cruz just really has this bowen in his teeth.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: He's just not going to let it go. He just said,
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: I'm in director world with Tucker Carlson. I think he's
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: corrupting our movement and our party, and I'm not going.
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: To stand for it. So he really came to play
• 37:05
  Speaker 12: this morm Well.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Cotton came to play. But Cotton lives by the rule
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I do, which is, don't give publicity to people who
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: want publicity. And I've done that for twenty five years
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: on this program. And I don't bring up fringe actors,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately, our anti Semitic influencers to use Tom Cotton's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: air quotes already get enough clicks. Rich Lowry, how much
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: of a problem do you think it is really in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party, because I don't think it's really a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: problem in the Republican Party.
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: Well, it depends on how you define the Republican Party.
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: Are there senators and members of Congress who are anti
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: Semites openly or secretly? No?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, but there are three? There are three?
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: Well, okay, all right, But is it a huge problem
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: among elected officials. No, but I think they Young Republicans,
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: especially young males, are increasingly slay this way. And Manhattan
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: Institute study last December and the last year indicated this
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: is the case. You hear about it anecdotally all the
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: time I went to the University of Virginia.
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: I was just talking to a friend the other day.
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: His daughter goes to UVA and she came to him
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: recently and said, I'm not going to a college Republican
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: meeting ever again.
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: He's like, why, you know, college republicanly uba? What could
• 38:19
  Speaker 12: go wrong?
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: To forget what issue was being discussed at a meeting?
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: But the guys in front of her muttering, Oh, it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: a jewice, It's a juiceful, and I think it is.
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: It is more prevalent than you'd like among young guys.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: That alarms me. I've been teaching Launston's at Chaman University
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: for twenty five years and thirty years. Actually I started
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: teaching before I started doing the National Show. I started
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the National Show in two thousand. I started teaching in
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: ninety five. And I've never met a conservative who's any
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: nice I might in the classroom, not once. So I'm
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: alarmed because VA is high end. Those are smart kids.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think the university had to do about that? Well?
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: I don't.
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: I don't think that it's the university's purviewed to, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: I don't. They're not teaching anti Semitic content as far
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: as as far as I know, and they're not, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: they're not Columbia. They're they're left at center. I think
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: I think this is being done by conservative right wing influencers.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I am going to suggest that if I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: found it on Chapman University, and I have not, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: would urge everyone there to hold the rally or not
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the rally. The event you did today, how many people
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: spoke today, how many people came, and what was the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: coverage of it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: It was a good crowd we did at the Museum
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: of the Bible, A couple hundred people there. It was
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: just a morning event or about from nine am to
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: one pm, but packed with the.
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: Great great speakers. Three three.
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: I mentioned Leo Parrell, others, David Azerat, they're familiar with him.
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: He's a Mitsdale, a little more new right than we are,
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: but brilliant based case. He's making the base case for
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: Israel in a really compelling way.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Well, the base case for Israel is that the most
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: powerful ally we have in the world, that's a nuclear
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: power and not afraid to project force. Got nothing to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: do with her being Jewish. Tell me Rich when you
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: do the editors next, will you be talking about this,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: because I would love to hear more about this event.
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah, we just recorded. We did not talk much about this.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: I mentioned it, but we're focused to first and foremost
• 40:32
  Speaker 10: on ran For understandable reasons.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: This is to you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: You know, it's a different one for Trump.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: Almost everything else he's done has been a one off
• 40:40
  Speaker 10: anti its campaign a little different, but still just an
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: air campaign against guerrilla force.
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: This is a much more difficult challenge. Is important that
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: he prevailed.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And last question, Rich, I want more Republicans to talk
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in terms of winning a victory.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what victory looks like, whether the regime
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: has to collapse or whether they just have to cry
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: uncle or go delsy and then I want cubit of fault.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But I think they had to talk about winning and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: changing the world because Trump is changing the world. Has
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: anyone besides Cotton dead Fisher did it on the show today?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Anyone else talk about that? We got a minute.
• 41:11
  Speaker 12: No, not as much as they should. I think Walter
• 41:13
  Speaker 12: Russell made a good case in the Journald this morning.
• 41:15
  Speaker 10: That victory is basically, can you open the straits before
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: moves even when the regime is still hostile, showing that
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: they don't have control of it, or are they backing
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: you off because.
• 41:26
  Speaker 12: You can't reopen it. I think that's a key indicator.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Well said as always Rich Lowry, host of the Editors
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: podcast for National Review, editor in chief of National Review,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: and the host of The McCarthy Report. Don't forget that
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: because it's always entertaining, except for the New York baseball
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: bias that is in evidence and soon will be overwhelming
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like kudzuu as the season gets close to the beginning.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Rich. Don't go an here where America. I'll
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: be right back on the uq AT show. Welcome back
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: in America. Have Bethany Mandel is the co founder of
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the Wars, which you can find at the mom Wars
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: dot substat dot com, co author of Stolen Youth and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It's better to be Lucky than Smart. In the last hour,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I played Senator Cotton and Senator Cruz talking about anti
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Semitism among quote influencers on the right. Then Rich Lowry
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: in the last segment, explained to me that National Review
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: had both put on this great, big show at the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Museum of the Bible today about anti Semotism on the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: so called influencers of the right segment. And then Bethany
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Mandel shows up It was supposed to be on yesterday,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: but I had to come on today because of me. Bethany,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you were there today, tell us about it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: I was there, That's why I'm wearing makeup and address.
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: It all worked out for the best.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: It was.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: It was a really incredible event. I was really impressed
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: with NR for doing it. The Lieutenant Governor of Texas
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: spoke and I'm forgetting his name Begaret on Good Morning Trick,
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: I was.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: I was on the radio with Larry O'Connor this morning
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: at five and sorry, well little Rundown fumes today and
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: he explained sort of the connection with Buckley standing athwart
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: history and saying stop when it came to anti Semitism
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: in his day, and it felt like that moment today
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: with NR.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: It was really well timed.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: It was a beautiful event, and I thought everyone should
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: go listen to Ted Cruz's entire speech. There was a
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: couple of funny parts in there that you're going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: see a lot of clips, but it's really worth sitting
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: down and spending the fifteen twenty minutes on listening the
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: whole speech because it was incredible and it was.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: A really important, pivotal moment.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I think, Bethany, you and I were at the rally
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: for Israel in the aftermath of ten seven, when hundreds
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: of thousands of people from all over the United States
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: went to the mall, and since that time Israel has
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: been taking a pounding online. But I never confused the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: online world with the real world. I don't believe it
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: is a problem among elected Republicans anti Semitism, do you.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's a problem among elected Republicans. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: do think it's a problem among Republicans writ large, including
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: the staff in a lot of these offices, including the
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: interns at a lot of these offices. The kerfuffle that
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: happened at Heritage didn't come out of nowhere.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I think that. I mean Cruz.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: I think it was Cruz said, you know, this is
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: a problem in Hill offices, with interns, you name it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: This is not just an online problem. If you look
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: at polling data about how young evangelicals feel about Israel,
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: it's as bad as black liberals.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You know, that is very disconcerting. But I would put
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: this word out to the people who run internships on
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the Hill, like I have an intern here on The
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: hu Huitt Show and I always have. I've got probably
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: how many interns that we had Duyne over the course
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: of twenty five years, seventy five. If someone came in
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: here and was anti Israel, anti Zionists, and certainly anti Smic,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they would not be here for the next day. They'd
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: be fired, and it would be with reason, because it's irrational,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and I can't have irrational people. Do you think that
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: word is out?
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: No, I mean I think I don't think that there
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: should be a litmus test for people being you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: pro Israel or whatever. But the problem for anti Semitism,
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: and and a lot of people hide their anti Semitism
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: with oh, I'm just an anti Zionist, is that they're stupid.
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: And a lot of people are stupid, especially as you
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: go younger and younger, and a lot of them are uneducated,
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: not just stupid, but also uneducated about the tenets of
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: their faith. And so you see a lot of the
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: trad bros who proclaim that they're Catholic. This is Tucker
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: Carlson's latest guest, the Carrie, the woman from the Sorry
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: like a Catholic?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Can we be as a Roman Catholic? Don't no Catholic?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: But she she calls herself a Catholic, but then she
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about John Paul the Second or Benedict.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Even Francis, who was bad on everything, got this sort
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of right.
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: She's brand new, she's brand new, and she doesn't understand
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: anything about Catholicism.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: My mother was Catholic. I probably understand more about Catholicism
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: than she does. Right, But this is this is the problem.
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: These are people that walk around saying Christ is King,
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: but don't understand anything that anything that you you just
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: spent thirty seconds talking about it. It's all Chinese to them.
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: And so this is a real problem of people just
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: not understanding what do we believe as conservatives, what do
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: they believe as Catholics, And that ignorance is manifesting in
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: their anti Semitism.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And I will I will add to this for my
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Catholic listener, Cardinal Koopich, if you're listening, I'm online right
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: now in Chicago, if you're listening, take it back. You
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about just war doctrine. I doubt you've
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: ever studied it. You may have picked up Augustine once
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and put it right back down. But he's saying this
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: is not a just war and in fact that it's
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: classic Augustinian just war doctrine. But we got a cardinal
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: in Chicago who's just like an old seventies liberal hippie
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: my age, and it didn't get it. They're ignorant. It
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: really does upset me when people holding themselves out as
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: authorities on in church doctrine don't even know church doctrine.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And coming out of a Catholic family, you know what
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. In the speaker's lineup today, you're at
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the Museum of the Bible. By the way, can we
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: give a shout out to the MOB for hosting.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: That one percent?
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: I am a paid member. This is not a plug
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: that I'm not an influencer for them. I'm a paid
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: member because I wanted to go to their play of
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: Joseph and it was fifteen percent off if you were
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: a member, and so I finally bit the bullet and joined.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: We've been I don't know, probably half a dozen times.
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: It is spectacular and speaking specifically to the Jews, it
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: is even though it's built by Evangelical Christians. I know
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: the woman that helped supply all of the Jewish artifacts,
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: she is amazing. She works with passages on Christian tours
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: to Israel. But she's Jewish.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Her name is Rifka. Amazing. I could not speak more
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: highly of the Museum of the Bible.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I can speak about the Greens because I know the Greens,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and both the Green Senior and the Greens Junior, who
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: poured all their fortune into the mob and they're fabulous people.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: And they've had to return some artifacts whenever some artifacts
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: have been determined to have been inappropriately acquired, and they
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: do so willingly and joyously. But it's a great museum.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It's near the mall, but a lot of people won't
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: find it, and then it'll be a little bit stunned.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Because the Rembrandt room over at the National Portrait Gallery
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: is free, I mean the National Gallery of Art. You know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you know in there and sit among the rem Brands
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: for free. And Dan Da Vinci MLB is not free.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But you're saying, if you live in the area, join
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: as a member.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: They have great homeschool events too. That's another reason we joined.
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: And they also I'm this is actually a road trip
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: that I'm taking with my kids next year. They have
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: the Arc Encounter in Kentucky where they've built a life
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: size Noah's Arc and we are going to go next year.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Good for you. Don't don't miss Dollywood. Let me go
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: back to the war. How do your friends in Israel
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: feel it's going.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I think that they feel like it's going well.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: The exhaustion is an otherworldly I was actually going to
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: send you an Instagram video that one of my friends
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: made of her making dinner, and she planned on making fajitas.
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: That way she could stop and start if she had
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: to run to the into the shelter. Her kids have
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: been home for ten days straight and they don't want
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: to go outside in case there's a siren and they
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: have to run.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: It's exhausting. It's really, really deeply exhausting.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Is she on optimist that it will be over soon
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: in terms of the sirens?
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: I don't think anyone is, honestly, And I also wanted
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: to plug. I mentioned you on my mom Wars podcast.
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: I had Lahav l Harkov from Jewish Insider and we
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: talked about you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I have to go and listen. I hope
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: it's a nice thing. But the mom Wars dot sup back.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: She's a fine reporter. How long has she been doing this?
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, she's fantastic. I'm probably twenty years Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: She is a very very fine reporter and I turned
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to her as well as a meet Sagala vibredda Ger.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: You don't have to send me your contact information so
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I can have her on so. Bethany last question we
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: got less than a minute. Do you think President Trump
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: has been clear enough in deciding in telegraphing what victory
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: looks like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: I am not super keen on criticizing him, but no,
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: I don't. I feel like we've heard a lot of
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: different answers about when this war is over and what
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: that metric is. I think that they've achieved something really
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: incredible with real minimal losses on the Americans part. And
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: that being said, I wonder what the endgame is here,
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: and I think he hasn't really clearly articulated.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: That it should be the incapacitation of the regime worth
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the lives of at least seven Americans one hundred and
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: twenty wounded and dead Israeli than our golf Arab allies.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: The cost must beating quots of the game, and the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: game must be the increpencient incapacitation of the regime. Bethany
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Mandel can be followed on exp Bethany Seandark and you
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: should and the mom Wars, God Subtacks dot Com. Stay
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: tuned me. You've heard me talk a lot about Consumer Cellular.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: How you can switch your carrier save money without the sacrifice.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: That's because Consumer Cellular uses the same towers as major carriers.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Make the switch today and get twenty five dollars off
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: at Consumer Cellular dot Com slash you if you're over fifty,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: get one line of unlimited talk, text and data for
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: thirty five dollars, plus an additional five dollars per month
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: off for the first five months. When you visit Consumer
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Cellular dot Com slash shoe, use the promo code Q
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: twenty five. Consumer Cellular ranks number one for network coverage
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and consumer satisfaction. According to ACSL, You'll be working with
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: an actual human being when you switch base right here
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: in the US, so get one line of unlimited talk,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: textan data for only thirty five dollars per month, plus
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: an additional five dollars off per month for the first
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: five months. Think of all the money you will save.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Go to Consumer Sular dot Com slash shoe promo QUE
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: twenty five or call one eight hundred and four to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: one one forty four fifty four consumer cellular dot com
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: slash shoe. Clean water is not complicated, but it is essential.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Without it, public health suffer, education declines, economic stability well
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: it weakens if it doesn't collapse. Across Latin America and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the Caribbean, families are facing that reality of unclean water.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Every day. Mothers walk miles for clean wine. Children are
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: exposed to preventable diseases because they haven't got it. Communities
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: are held back by the absence of basic clean water access.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But strategic compassion changes outcomes. Through food for the poor,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: your gift provides safe and living water, improving house strengthening communities,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and supporting gospel centered transformation through trusted local partnerships. There's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a measurable impact with lasting results. Your gift to fifty
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: dollars ensures two people have safe and living water, or
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: four one hundred dollars a family of four will be
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: transformed for a year. I hope you act. Text Hewitt Hgwitt,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that's Hewet Hwitt to five to one five fifty five.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: That's Hewett to fifty one five five five, or visit
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: hewit dot com right now and click on the blue
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: giving living water banner at the top to provide living
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: water today and thank you.
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: I love my classes.
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: A crazy teacher you wear start.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: What does President Trump mean? I'm calling on our telepath
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: James Lylynx as in James Lynx dot substact dot com
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to a bit of translation forth crescin staff for those
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of us old enough to remember, Carson.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: What does he mean?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Jane? Last night the war's almost over. Then last night
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: we got a long way to go? And then this
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: morning Peteg says that weeks what's going on here?
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: What bad messaging? You just not consistent messaging.
• 53:28
  Speaker 13: When he says the war's almost over, I don't know
• 53:30
  Speaker 13: exactly what he means because there still is the government in.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: Place and the bad guys.
• 53:36
  Speaker 13: So then, you know, I'll trust access to say we
• 53:39
  Speaker 13: got a long way to go, because that prepares people
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: for the ineditable.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: That prepares people for long sustained campaigns.
• 53:46
  Speaker 13: I mean, do you think they've been hammering them now,
• 53:48
  Speaker 13: day and night for how long and how much can
• 53:51
  Speaker 13: they have left?
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: Well, you know plenty. It's a matter of launchers.
• 53:55
  Speaker 13: As you read today that they just nailed a launcher
• 53:58
  Speaker 13: and it seemed to be an odd thing to note
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: and hawk because we were told that a lot of
• 54:03
  Speaker 13: the launching were put out of business early on.
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, so consistent messaging would be better.
• 54:08
  Speaker 13: But I'm less concerned about that than more concerned about
• 54:11
  Speaker 13: the efficacy of the entire operation.
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: Aren't you?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm with you on that. Now, what I would
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: really love to see is the Republicans put their arms
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: around winning. Have they done that?
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I don't think so, don't.
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: I haven't gotten a full throated pushed back to what
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: the Democrats are saying.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: I did enjoy Bill Maher pointing out.
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: To Camp number who was Cory book, Adam Schiff reading
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: Adam Shif read it right, a line about the statements
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: of the war powers and all the rest of it,
• 54:38
  Speaker 13: and Shift said it was just totally vague. Totally vague
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: is what Obama said. We all know that the presidents
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: claim these powers for themselves, and the war powers is
• 54:46
  Speaker 13: dodgy and the rest of it. But yes, I would
• 54:48
  Speaker 13: like to see a full throated pushback because I don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: think the anti.
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: War message is getting traction at this point.
• 54:55
  Speaker 13: I think the only people who are really spun up
• 54:56
  Speaker 13: about it are the ones who'd be inclined to be spun.
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: Up about it anyway.
• 55:00
  Speaker 13: But yes, better messaging would be great, but again, you know,
• 55:04
  Speaker 13: messaging is one thing, the actual operation.
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: Is the other.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's put the war to one side, because
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: now you know are experts on what's going on. But
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I think we know how to communicate the Republicans.
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: Speak for yourself.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I know, I know we're actually we played risk. No,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I really do think Republicans are going to get stuck
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: with the war, whether or not they wanted the war.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: So they should put their arms around the war and
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: say we want Iran to be free, and it would
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: be a good thing. It would be a great thing
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: for the world if Iran was free. How hard is
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: it to say that it isn't.
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: But it's not just it would be a great thing.
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: It will be a great thing.
• 55:46
  Speaker 13: That's the thing, not say, well, you know, in some
• 55:47
  Speaker 13: ideal world we'd like ironic it will be free.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: To go forward to the.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Positive messages to what this is all about.
• 55:54
  Speaker 13: But again, how many times have we been told that
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: we don't want forever wars, want nation building and all
• 55:59
  Speaker 13: the rest of it. Hard to talk about the endpoint
• 56:01
  Speaker 13: of this, which is Iran welcomed back into the international
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: community without sounding as if you're nation building, without sounding
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: as if it's the same regime change thing we've heard before.
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: And unfortunately in this part it's true. We do want
• 56:14
  Speaker 13: regime change. We may have to do some nation building
• 56:17
  Speaker 13: in the sense that you know, arrange it. I think
• 56:19
  Speaker 13: Trump said, not a shot. No, he hasn't been there.
• 56:22
  Speaker 13: It's got to be somebody from the inside. I mean
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: that indicates the sort of thinking and strategy about what
• 56:26
  Speaker 13: happens after we hope the mole regime collapses. But yes,
• 56:30
  Speaker 13: get around it, embrace it as a thing that America
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: does and shows two things, one the power of the
• 56:35
  Speaker 13: American military and two the fact that we can be
• 56:38
  Speaker 13: a force for good in this country, which according to
• 56:41
  Speaker 13: a survey of the last week, something like eighty four
• 56:43
  Speaker 13: percent of Republicans believe that the US is a force
• 56:47
  Speaker 13: for good. Is something like, I don't know, it's like
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: thirty six percent of Democrats believe to.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: So so make that out there.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: Put that out there.
• 56:54
  Speaker 13: People are amazed by what they've seen, but eventually they
• 56:58
  Speaker 13: get tired of air footage of tomahawks going into windows
• 57:02
  Speaker 13: and want something more behind this.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: We want the people back out in the streets, not
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: getting killed this time. Now I want to go to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: next week. I want to anticipate a week from now.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Cuba is out of everything. They're more out of everything
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: than I am. After the White's been gone for two weeks.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I got nothing in here in the house if there's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: because I don't shot. Cubans can't shop. There's nothing there.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So we're going to get demands made on America to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: feed Cuba. I think we will feed Cuba, but I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: don't think we out of fuel Cuba. What do you think?
• 57:35
  Speaker 13: Well, are you saying that Mexico hasn't been supplying you
• 57:37
  Speaker 13: with food when your wife was up for a fortnight
• 57:39
  Speaker 13: notes tisk, I think Mexican. I think Mexican supplies to
• 57:42
  Speaker 13: Cuba have been curtailed.
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: And what I've heard there are intimations that think that
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: the US.
• 57:47
  Speaker 13: Administration will help Cuba through this difficult patch, which is
• 57:50
  Speaker 13: interesting because instead of trying to make it brittle and
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: crack and fall and then you have chaos, it's it's
• 57:55
  Speaker 13: is they're attempting to manage a leverage bio.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: To ease Yes, should we do that?
• 58:01
  Speaker 13: I think we should because if it's all contingent when
• 58:05
  Speaker 13: the end of the cast for a regime and the
• 58:06
  Speaker 13: downfall of communism, because then we will have shown three
• 58:09
  Speaker 13: different ways in which the new doctrine works. One the
• 58:14
  Speaker 13: guys go in in the middle of the night with
• 58:15
  Speaker 13: supersonic special weapons and turn everybody into jelly and take
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: the head of the state and put him in another
• 58:20
  Speaker 13: country Venezuela. Two overwhelming show of force Shakana and Iran.
• 58:24
  Speaker 13: And three let's all sit down to the table and
• 58:27
  Speaker 13: talk about how you're going to be out of power
• 58:30
  Speaker 13: in a month or so. So yeah, I mean, those
• 58:32
  Speaker 13: are three different approaches to instability and troublesome regimes.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they here the name Diaz, Carnal or Carnal Diaz,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. He's just another he's not named Castro.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: But there's still Rangel still alive. I don't know if
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: he's right combinant. Do we need to escort him off
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the island, along with maybe thirty thousand of their ultra
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: security people to whomever will take them.
• 59:01
  Speaker 13: Yes, I would like to do it in two ways.
• 59:02
  Speaker 13: One question about the fuel. I don't know if we
• 59:04
  Speaker 13: give them fuel, but food is a good thing.
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: To do.
• 59:07
  Speaker 13: But when it comes to getting them off, I would
• 59:09
  Speaker 13: not put them on a seven forty seven and ship
• 59:11
  Speaker 13: them over here. I would actually just make sure that
• 59:14
  Speaker 13: they got to the coast of Cuba and were required
• 59:16
  Speaker 13: to leave by rickety boats. That would be That would
• 59:19
  Speaker 13: be poetic justice. What's more, not just wicked rickety boats
• 59:23
  Speaker 13: or fifty seven mercury. Reason that they've somehow managed to float,
• 59:26
  Speaker 13: but know that they will be met on the other
• 59:27
  Speaker 13: side in Florida by the friends and the families of
• 59:30
  Speaker 13: everybody who is dispossessed by the cast or magime.
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: Ideally, that's what I'd like to see happened.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Now. The three countries Nzuela, let Iran in Cuba, you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: are Ukrainian, you know the big We have one minute.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Which country will recover quick ast if it's freed?
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: Interesting?
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: I think I won want to say Ukraine because they've
• 59:50
  Speaker 13: got a lot of stuff that people want, which surprises people.
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: It's like what they got just grain, they you know,
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: they got lots of stuff.
• 59:56
  Speaker 13: They have neon, they have rare earth and the rest
• 59:58
  Speaker 13: of it, and you great as a smart capable place
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 13: that I think could bounce back. And they've been free
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 13: for a while. Venezuela has been, like Cuba has been,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 13: has been slumping under the burden of bad governments for
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 13: a long time, so it may be a while to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 13: shake that out of the system.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: Iran.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: Who knows.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: That's the big question, isn't it, And we're going to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: find out.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Cuba only because of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the proximity two and the incredible energy and well made
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: and accumulated in the United States going back into Cuba
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: big time. But lit'll see, and we'll check in with
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Lilacs otherwise noted Cruscan next week. Follow him at Change
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Lilacs dot subsect dot com.