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Mystery 101 Pilot (Movie #1) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 2: On today's episode, we are kicking off our summer school
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  Speaker 2: series of episodes, starting with the Mystery one oh one pilot.
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  Speaker 2: You can hang out with us when the show is
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  Speaker 2: where you can follow us at Girls Gone Hallmark.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, jump into our Girls Gone Hallmark Facebook group. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Mystery one on one fans in that group.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So I'm certain there's gonna be lots
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  Speaker 1: of discussion about maybe about our review. I doubt it though,
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  Speaker 1: because spoiler, my review is not going to be controversial.
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  Speaker 1: That's all. Just come over there to Girls Gone Hallmark
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  Speaker 2: And if you do have thoughts on our review, which
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  Speaker 2: I agree mine, I don't think mine's going to be
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  Speaker 1: Either.
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  Speaker 2: to be played on a future Listener mailbag episode. We
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  Speaker 2: did ryles and people up with a recent episode, so
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  Speaker 2: the next mail bag should be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know what I was just thinking last
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  Speaker 1: summer when we reviewed the Sign Sealed Delivered movies. Mm hm,
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  Speaker 1: the Postables the biggest fans of those movies. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they so lovingly like welcomed us into their their circle, right,
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  Speaker 1: And we had said, like, these people know these movies
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  Speaker 1: inside and out, like they've seen them hundreds of times
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  Speaker 1: and know every little detail and every little motivation. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit afraid that's what's gonna happen with Mystery
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  Speaker 1: one oh one two, Like the big fans are gonna
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  Speaker 1: come at us and be like, oh, will you miss
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  Speaker 1: this or that's a wrong take or yeah whatever. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're a big Mystery one on
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  Speaker 1: one fan, just ride, go for the ride with us,
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  Speaker 1: because this is our first time. Do the Mystery one
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  Speaker 1: oh one fans have a name? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: was wondering that the other night email us girls call
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  Speaker 1: homework at gmail dot com. Plaas fans. Do they have
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  Speaker 1: a name? Well? You know thea yeah, the pala haas?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they come cel think about? Laha has
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  Speaker 1: I think the hashtag is just pala haas. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so, Okay, email us let us know.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's funny is a Hallmark channel posted thirty
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  Speaker 2: four seconds ago on Instagram. Ready for back to back
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  Speaker 2: Detective Travis, don't miss the Mystery one on one double
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  Speaker 2: Stack tonight starting at six Central. I mean, this episode
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  Speaker 2: was several weeks in the past as you're listening to it,
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  Speaker 2: But what a coincidence, Like there's Christopher Polaha himself at
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  Speaker 2: the top of my feed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure the comments are going to be
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  Speaker 1: like canceled too soon, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really unhappy that this show ended, and indeed I
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  Speaker 1: can kind of see why. I know, I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I am knowing that there is an end in future.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, I don't I I'm not looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so worried about the cliffhanger that's coming me too. Well,
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  Speaker 2: before we talk all things Mystery one, I want you
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  Speaker 2: people have been delivering in a big way. I have
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  Speaker 2: been asking for your ratings and reviews. You're coming through.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Have another review of Girls Gone Hallmark to read. The
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  Speaker 2: review is titled Love on the Danube. It's by Daisy
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  Speaker 2: Mick four two two. It is five stars and it
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  Speaker 2: reads Megan and Wendy love you too. I listen on
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  Speaker 2: my morning commute, and you always make me laugh. I
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  Speaker 2: heard this review and saw this movie on while I
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  Speaker 2: was scrolling for something to watch. I probably would have
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  Speaker 2: skipped it, but I decided to watch because of your review.
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  Speaker 2: It was good, a solid, fun movie. Really enjoying all
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  Speaker 2: your new content.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder which one she watched that she liked.
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  Speaker 2: The first one because of when this this review came
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  Speaker 2: in got It, got It, got It, The Wes Brown one,
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  Speaker 2: got It.
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  Speaker 1: I liked that one me too. I think I liked
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  Speaker 1: all three. I mean, we reviewed those back last summer,
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  Speaker 1: so I have a hard time remembering exactly the details,
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  Speaker 1: but I know I liked the first one a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember about the second, third one. The second one,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely know that we didn't think it was as
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  Speaker 1: strong as the first. Got It all right? Are you
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  Speaker 1: ready for a synopsis? I am Mystery one oh one.
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  Speaker 1: When a college student is found dead, English professor Amy
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  Speaker 1: Winslow uses her crime fiction expertise to unwrap the case
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  Speaker 1: faster than Detective Travis Burke, who ends up working with
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  Speaker 1: Amy to catch the killer.
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  Speaker 2: Mystery one oh one premiered on January twenty seventh, twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries.
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  Speaker 1: Blair Hayes directed the very first Mystery one on one
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  Speaker 1: movie and will return to direct the next movie in
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  Speaker 1: the series, Mystery one o one Playing Dead. His other
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark projects include The Perfect Christmas Present from twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: The series was created by Robin Bernheim and Lee Goldberg.
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  Speaker 1: Both are credited, along with John Christian Plummer, as the
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  Speaker 1: writers for this particular movie. John Christian Plummer currently has
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  Speaker 1: twenty four writing credits, including some of Hallmark's biggest mystery
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  Speaker 1: franchises like Mystery Island, Curious Cater, and Francesca Quinn p I.
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  Speaker 1: Plumber will go on to write all seven of the
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  Speaker 1: Mystery one oh one movies. Christopher Paloja stars as Detective
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  Speaker 1: Travis Burke. Chris has an impressive ninety acting credits, with
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  Speaker 1: his first dating back to a two thousand and one
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  Speaker 1: ten Keen vampire drama series called Angel. Chris has gone
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  Speaker 1: on to star in some of Hallmark's biggest hits, including
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  Speaker 1: arguably the best Hallmark Christmas movie in my opinion, A
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  Speaker 1: built Mark Christmas. He's been noticeably absent from the network
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  Speaker 1: this year, with his last appearance in The Christmas Quest
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  Speaker 1: back in November twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: Jill Wagner stars as Professor Amy Winslow. Jill has forty
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  Speaker 2: one acting credits and is currently co starring in the
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  Speaker 2: popular Paramount Plus series Lioness. Jill has starred in several
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  Speaker 2: Hallmark favorites like Pearl in Paradise, Autumn Dreams, and A
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  Speaker 2: Harvest Wedding. The last Hallmark project for Jill was the
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  Speaker 2: final Mystery one oh one movie in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: Robin Thomas plays Amy's dad, Graham Winslow. Robin has one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven acting credits dating back to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty two for his role in the daytime soap As
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  Speaker 1: the World Turns. He has also starred in the soap
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  Speaker 1: Another World, Who's the Boss, Party of Five Damages and
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  Speaker 1: Crazy ex girlfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Preston Vanderslice plays Bud. Preston has fifty three acting credits and,
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  Speaker 2: according to IMDb, will appear in all of the Mystery
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  Speaker 2: one oh one movies except the final one, What I Know, What.
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  Speaker 1: Happens to Bud? Oh my god, I don't like this
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  Speaker 1: this info.
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  Speaker 2: He was last seen on Hallmark in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three movie Field Day. Sarah Dugdale plays Claire Tate. Sarah
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  Speaker 2: has thirty three acting credits and has most recently co
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  Speaker 2: starred as Lizzie in fifty two episodes of Virgin River
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  Speaker 2: on Netflix. Her last project for Hallmark was last year's
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  Speaker 2: Hallmark Plus.
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  Speaker 1: Movie Season's Greetings from Cherry Lane. According to IMDb, it
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  Speaker 1: appears she is only in four of the Mystery one
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  Speaker 1: oh one movies What Happened, What Claire? I Can't, I can't,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Thompson plays Eldon. Andy has ninety six acting credits,
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  Speaker 2: including Hallmark movies like Confessions of a Christmas Letter, Christmas
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  Speaker 2: Class Reunion, and Welcome to Mama's. Ben Sullivan plays our
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  Speaker 2: victim Rex Hudson. Ben has twenty nine acting credits, including
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  Speaker 2: a few other projects for Hallmark, including Beverly Hill's Wedding
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  Speaker 2: and Picture Perfect Mysteries Dead Over Diamonds. Other key players
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  Speaker 2: in this installment include Larisa Tronco as Ben's girlfriend Lazy.
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  Speaker 2: She will also appear in Mystery one on one playing dead.
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  Speaker 2: Ian Belcher plays suspect Josh. This was his one and
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  Speaker 2: only appearance on Hallmark. And finally, Matthew Harrison plays plagiarist Professor.
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  Speaker 2: Matthew has been in several Hallmark mysteries like Garage Sale
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  Speaker 2: Mysteries and Picture Perfect Mysteries.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to take a quick.
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  Speaker 2: Break and come right back with our first impressions. Hey, Wendy,
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  Speaker 2: what was your first impression of Mystery one oh one?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this might be Hallmark, but consider this an official
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  Speaker 1: heat check because chemistry between Palaha and Wagner is fire. Nice. Wede,
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  Speaker 1: we knew, we knew, right, we knew?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was ready for it. My first
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  Speaker 2: impression is this is very much a me problem, but
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't help it be stressed out. But the amount
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  Speaker 2: of murder happening on a college campus, it's.
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  Speaker 1: You problem because you're sending your kid to college.
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  Speaker 2: I got college on the brain. I'm focused on the
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  Speaker 2: college student perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. All right, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about what we liked about Mystery one on one. But first,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say we did originally review
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  Speaker 1: this movie several summers ago. So I looked back at
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  Speaker 1: my review then, and a lot of it overlaps. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of the same things I liked I
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  Speaker 1: liked back then. So I my worry is that this
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  Speaker 1: is not even a worry. I know the mystery. One
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  Speaker 1: on one fans have heard that original review.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not look back, mostly because I'm so suggestible.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to form my own opinions. I remembered very little.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that I liked this movie and that I
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  Speaker 2: had absolutely no idea who the killer was, and then
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  Speaker 2: of course remembered who it was as I was watching it,
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  Speaker 2: so I was able to watch it with those eyes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I did not look back at the specific So
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  Speaker 2: if you hear me repeating myself, it is purely coincidental.
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  Speaker 2: And if I'm contradicting myself, well, people change.
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  Speaker 1: People watch things with fresh eyes, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I just I also think. I don't think anybody is
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  Speaker 2: doing a side by side comparison of these two reviews.
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  Speaker 1: But if you are, thank you very much for the downloads.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah, all right, Well here's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing I liked. Can you guess what it is? The
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  Speaker 1: Fia chemistry between Palaha and Wagner, well, that is tops
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  Speaker 1: my list. But I do think Chris Polaha is perfectly
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  Speaker 1: cast as Travis Burg.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one of the things I was noticing and
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  Speaker 2: preparing my notes for the first several Mystery one on
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  Speaker 2: one movies was how am I going to say differently
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  Speaker 2: each time how great Christopher Polaha is in this role?
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  Speaker 2: How many different ways can I say I love this
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  Speaker 2: man in.
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  Speaker 1: This role, real, for real?
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  Speaker 2: And I just I understand why he has such a
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  Speaker 2: rabid fandom, and as you mentioned on a recent episode,
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  Speaker 2: we consider ourselves friends of his. I say it laughing
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  Speaker 2: because I'm very well aware that it's a very parasocial relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Simply because we have interviewed him on the podcast does
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  Speaker 2: not make us his friend. I know this, And yet
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  Speaker 2: I think he just engenders that kind of relationship with
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  Speaker 2: his fandom, like he wants that kind of one on
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  Speaker 2: one personal connection. Feels like he knows you. I think
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  Speaker 2: if you look back to the cruise, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out there and meet as many people
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  Speaker 2: as I can, because that's how he gives back.
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  Speaker 1: To those fans. Look, I'm a big fan that's all
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  Speaker 1: I can say. No, I'm a big fan too, but
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  Speaker 1: let me just tell you, like i've I have really
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  Speaker 1: grown to admire him as an actor. I think he
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  Speaker 1: is a great actor. He brings a lot of depth
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  Speaker 1: and nuance to his roles, and I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I really like notice or appreciated it before,
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  Speaker 1: with the exception of that Scrooge movie when he has
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  Speaker 1: that one scene where he's doing the monologue and it's
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  Speaker 1: so so. While watching this movie, though, to me, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like he's not just like waiting for his next line.
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  Speaker 1: He reacts, he listens, he's in the scene. Yes, he's
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  Speaker 1: in the moment with his co star, right, Like he'll
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  Speaker 1: give like a grin or like a vocal cue, like
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  Speaker 1: to tell like he's connected with it with his acting partner.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I mean, he's really good and like, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's be real, looks fantastic, Like he looks great in
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  Speaker 1: this leather jacket he wears, he's got great hair. It's
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  Speaker 1: like rugged perfection. I just think he's perfect in this role.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with one percent with everything you said. Something
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  Speaker 1: that I was not prepared to like was Jill Wagner look,
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  Speaker 1: I hold a little bit of a grudge.
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  Speaker 2: I am not a fan of the Great American Family
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  Speaker 2: body of work, of what they stand for, and I
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  Speaker 2: do have a little bit of an issue with the
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  Speaker 2: actors that took their work elsewhere because whether or not
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  Speaker 2: they hold with one hundred percent of the beliefs that
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  Speaker 2: Great American Family stands for, you know, they are working
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  Speaker 2: with that company and they didn't make that decision, and
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  Speaker 2: I can't help but have the whole judgment in my
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  Speaker 2: heart for that choice.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, Jill Wagner's so good. Part of what
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  Speaker 1: makes these so good, Like we've seen lots of Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Palaha movies, and he I think can elevate the informants
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  Speaker 1: of anybody he's acting on screen with because he does
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  Speaker 1: connect so well. But part of what makes these movies
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  Speaker 1: so good is the way that they're acting at the
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  Speaker 1: same level. He's not bringing her up to his level,
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  Speaker 1: like they are connecting together on screen. She's very natural
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  Speaker 1: on camera, so to me, it never feels like she's
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  Speaker 1: delivering a line. It feels like she's having a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with Travis. It feels like she's having a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Graham on screen. And she just gets better. I agree,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think Jill Wagner I don't
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  Speaker 1: know her as an actor outside of Pearl of Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: which we watched earlier this year. Yeah, but as an actor,
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  Speaker 1: what she brings to Amy is very interesting for me
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  Speaker 1: because Amy is smart, she's sassy, she's vulnerable, she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: take any crap, but she's like not closed off either.
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  Speaker 1: I Jill Wagner makes me believe that Amy is like
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  Speaker 1: a sharp teacher. But also, you know what I mean, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: am I making sense here? Like I like Joe Wagner
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  Speaker 1: as an actor. I like what she brings to Amy
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  Speaker 1: as well, because we watch a lot of mysteries and sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: let me think, sometimes we will get a female in
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  Speaker 1: a mystery who's kind of like has stumbled upon something
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  Speaker 1: like for example, example, not Hannah. Hannah and Swinton is
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  Speaker 1: more in line with Amy Winslow to me. But Goldie,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, is like Goldie has accidentally ended
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  Speaker 1: up in a murdery situation. Yes, you know what I mean? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And whereas Amy is like she's out there trying to
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  Speaker 1: solve it with the knowledge that she has. Does any
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  Speaker 1: of this make sense? Well? I think it was. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense, and I think it adds. It feeds into.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things I really like about the way
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  Speaker 2: they've set this up is because Amy has such a
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  Speaker 2: depth of knowledge about crime fiction and how those things
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  Speaker 2: come to be. It makes her obviously she's not a detective,
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  Speaker 2: but it gives her more to work with as this
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  Speaker 2: detective sidekick than someone who's just accidentally murder adjacent, like
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  Speaker 2: Goldie who happens to be a baker turned detective right right,
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  Speaker 2: or a chef.
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  Speaker 1: I guess she's not a baker.
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  Speaker 2: I just I love her job in this movie because
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  Speaker 2: it makes the whole process very meta, the way they
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  Speaker 2: talk about crime writers, the way they talk about how
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  Speaker 2: especially in this movie towards the end when Alden has
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  Speaker 2: kidnapped her and he's like, aren't you gonna do that
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  Speaker 2: thing where we wrap up all the motivations of the
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  Speaker 2: killer and how.
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  Speaker 1: We got here? And I think it's great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're in a movie about a murder and
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  Speaker 2: she's talking about telling crime stories.
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  Speaker 1: It just makes it fun.
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  Speaker 2: It breaks the fourth wall in a way when they
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  Speaker 2: talk about it without actually breaking the fourth wall. And
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  Speaker 2: I think for someone like me, what this series has done,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll talk a little bit about it in some
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  Speaker 2: of my other segments. Is it's forced me to think
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  Speaker 2: about the different types of mystery I enjoy watching and how.
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  Speaker 1: I like processing it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the way they explain it makes it
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  Speaker 2: more obvious to me what it is that I like
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  Speaker 2: about these movies and what it is that I personally
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  Speaker 2: connect to.
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  Speaker 1: That's really interesting. It is interesting to hear you say,
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  Speaker 1: because I know sometimes you have said in the past
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  Speaker 1: that you don't really enjoy the mystery movies. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's not the mystery, but it's how it's delivered to
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  Speaker 1: you for sure. Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And what I think is really interesting about this movie
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  Speaker 2: is this movie and subsequent movies, they do a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good job of making these pretty creepy for Hallmark movies.
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  Speaker 2: When Amy is running from Elden in the woods, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty spooky. The moment when she's coming to the realization
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  Speaker 2: that Elden's the bad guy in her office and he
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  Speaker 2: shuts the door. This is definitely not the creepiest of
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  Speaker 2: all of the movies. The next movie has some real
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  Speaker 2: creepy scenes in it, in my opinion, but I think
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  Speaker 2: sometimes these movies lean real campy, and I'm not finding
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  Speaker 2: that to be the case as much in.
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  Speaker 1: This Yeah, I agree, you mentioned it earlier. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the chemistry between Amy and Travis. Yeah. Uh, Look
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  Speaker 1: Pearlin Paradise, they had great chemistry, but this movie, for me,
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  Speaker 1: like their chemistry, it's it's simmering, right, Like I'm waiting
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  Speaker 1: for these two people to tear their clothes off each other.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not going to happen on the like,
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  Speaker 1: I doubt we're ever going to see anything like that
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  Speaker 1: from this series, Like we may see a kiss, but like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but it's at that sort of tension level for me.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am on the edge of my seat and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to get a slow burn because
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that's just how these series work. But I am ready
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: for it, and they are building that relationship so nicely.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I almost wish that they didn't do the slow burn.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Just jump right into it. Yeah, just jump in, just
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: jump in, Just give it to me all. Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I know what I was thinking about that too, because
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: at this point I've watched the first three movies and
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're still kind of dancing around it, although
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: there's definitely they're making it plain that there's an attraction there.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of double entendres. But you know, in
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the timeframe that this movie takes place, would they have
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: gone from just having met to kissing? Like would we
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: normally have seen it in the span of the first movie?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe get to it in the second, like
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: we know we're gonna get to it. Just give it
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to us, Like, yeah, does the slow Burn I don't
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: really love a slow burn romance novel.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't sure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: The payoff might be bigger, but I'd rather see the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: relationship come to fruition, Like give me.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: That stuff, right, I have several more likes, do you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: want me just run through them? Yeah? I love that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: this movie opens with that song who Can It Be? Now? Yes?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: On my list. What I like is that they use
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it in the next movies as well, Like I'm like, oh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: is this their theme song?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's it makes me laugh? Why just
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: because it's a funny like who can it be? Now? Like?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Who is it? Who's the bad guy? Just makes me laugh?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: But it's great. I love a song. You know that's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: like a real song, right, Yes, I do know that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I just didn't know I didn't know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: In my That's not what I've ever thought the song
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was about. I've never been in the mindset that it's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like who's the bad guy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Who's mystery guy? Yeah? I got it, got it. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: liked that this particular movie starts out with the crime first,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and then we follow our detectives and other characters as
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they piece it together. Yeah. I like this kind of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: format because it's it reveals the like how and the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: why rather than just like who did it well?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And I know they need to do it that way
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: because we don't care about our characters yet exactly know
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: who they are.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly exactly. I thought Detective Burke had some of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the best lines, and of course I think crystalliver ism,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: so Impecca believe as well. But there's a scene between
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: him and Bud and Bud calls him Trav and he's like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: don't ever call me Trav again. I just laughed out loud.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: There's another one where Amy shows up to the crime
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: scene and he's like deadpan, like, ugh, what is she
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: doing here? And I just I'm like what. They're just
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: so funny and it's not just this movie, like you've said,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: We've seen two and three at this point as well,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and he continues to deliver with these like really kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: of like off comments that really make me laugh.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these movies that aren't comedy have some comedic moments.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I loved the brow off between Graham and Travis when
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: they meet. It has a real what are your intentions
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: with my daughter vibe? And I found it very funny.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And for me, my final like is I love the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: college setting. Obviously, it's like the phase of life I am,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: but I just I've always loved a college university vibe,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and so I like the college classroom dorm setting that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: we get.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: In this movie. Yeah, I got you. I have just
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: two of the biggest little likes. It's all right. Speaking
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of Graham, I love Graham Winslow. I don't or Robin
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Thomas as Graham. Yeah, well, I don't know what it is.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, look, I turned fifty this year, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm now attracted to this dude depth with
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: l's a dad on here, Like what is happening to me?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: There's something like kind of attractive even like a fine wine. Yes,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And I just like he's kind of like light hearted
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and fun and he has this really nice relationship with
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: his daughter Amy. I just I'm excited to see where
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I hope. I hope he remains in all seven movies
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: now seeing that like some of them, don't I know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I Graham Winslow. I also really like the budding romance
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: between Bud and Claire Hi. They're so cute, but Claire
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: goes away. I don't. I don't understand why. I can't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I need Maybe maybe it's when she gets cast on
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Virgin River. I don't know. I don't know. I'm I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: heartbroken for but already and I don't even know what happened.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I know, all right, but that's where my likes end.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk what you wish for. I have
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a few and you're gonna hear me repeat this in
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the next several reviews. But there are just way too
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: many suspects here. Yeah. One thing I wish they would
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: have handled differently is the number of suspects because I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: just like Short Circuit, like I can't and I'm really
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: trying to pay attention because for some reason watching these movies,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna try to figure it out
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: before the big reveal. I never can. But in this
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: scene when they are are interviewing the college employees who
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: all have their names with the letter M. Yeah, it
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: just was like hard to track. Like I'm like, am
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I supposed to care about all these suspects? Like it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: too much? I know they do it to create confusion,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but it backfires for me because it just makes the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: story feel super cluttered.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree. This is a complaint I
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: have in many mystery movies is that sometimes our cast
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: is too deep and I can't keep up. And I
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people like that depth of storytelling.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: And I think if you were to look at a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: murder board of this movie and who all these people
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: are and how they're connected, I think it's really masterfully done.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: But it is throwing your brain in so many different directions.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And I wonder how much mystery writers and viewers of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: mystery movies expect their viewer or their reader to internalize
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: how many of these people am I supposed to remember?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Am I supposed to be creating this internal murder board
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and trying to understand how they're connected and trying to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: figure out the motivation? Or am I supposed to just
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: take it at face value and wait for something to
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: hit me over the head with a realization.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be curious to see, like the thought
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: process behind.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That, because in regards to that, one of my wishes,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: which isn't necessarily specific to my feelings about this movie,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: just mysteries in general. I have been sitting trying to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: figure out which type of mystery I like, because as
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: mentioned before, I wouldn't say mysteries are my favorite genre.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed this movie, and I really enjoyed
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: other mysteries that we've seen. In this case, we have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Of the clues presented up front, which because I knew
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: who the culprit was, I was able to watch it
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: with those eyes, and they are laying out in my opinion,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: if you're paying attention, you can look back and see, oh,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I see where that clue was given to me. However,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of movies are like a late revealed, like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you couldn't possibly guess you don't have the information until
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: later in the movie to figure it out. Outside of
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the Hallmark universe, think of the movie The Sixth Sense, right,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: whether or not you were able to guess.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: The ending when you look back, you're like, oh, the clues,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: We're all there. I think personally, I like a.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Movie where the clues are there and.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Looking back, you can put the puzzle together even if
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: you didn't see it on first watch, as opposed to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: keep them guessing until the end, because then it's like, mile,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: was I supposed to guess that? The point is, maybe
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to ass it. Maybe you're just supposed
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to enjoy the ride. But I'm not really good at.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Just enjoying the ride. Yeah, now, I hear you, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: hear you, same, same, same. I had the same wish
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: as I did in my previous first review of this movie.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: H hm. The killer's motive doesn't sit right with me.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was he was acting out of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: desperation because his child was sick. M M. And I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: don't love that we use that as the motive in
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a mystery like this, because I felt sympathetic for him,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: yeah and so, but even though he's the bad guy,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now I'm struggling with like feeling sympathy for
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the man because of his sick child, but also like
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: he did bad things. Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: The murderer to me does feel like a little bit
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: of a bridge too far. I understand the motivation to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: steal the plant and sell it to the bioengineering company
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: for however much money, but then to take it to
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the place of murder so that he's not caught for
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that doesn't feel in line with his character to me, right, right, right, So.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And it was I think there's better mysteries to come. Oh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. This is not the best in the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: series for me, and I haven't even seen them all.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I have a couple thoughts on some character choices in
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: this movie. Tell me one is Amy violates rule number one,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: which is never drive to a second location. Oh is
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: this something that you have been told in your life?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Like if someone has the gun to your head and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: they tell you to get in the car and drive,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the answer is always no, because if they're going to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: kill you, they're going to kill you. But if you
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: go to the second location, the odds are much higher
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that they are absolutely going to kill you. Like good
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: things don't happen at the second location, so you don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: get in the car. God, Megan, you've never heard this before.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: This is dark. It is dark.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: People should know that a very very close family friend
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of ours was kidnapped and murdered when I was a child.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So this is god, this is kidnapped, this is news
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to me. Yes, yes, gosh, very very tragic story. Are
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you googling? Yes, I'm I just googled. Do not go
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to a second location?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And the first thing that pops up is a reddit,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you know, high quality investigative journalism. Never let anyone move
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you to a second location. And they're talking about in
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: this case, they're talking about missing person cases on unsolved mysteries.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: But people are like, even if you're shot and stabbed,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you have a much better chance of surviving a violent
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: encounter of help is only minutes away rather than hours.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The next one is, never go to a second location
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: is bad advice. So maybe Amy knows something that we.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Do not know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Finally, Josh, the editor of the school newspaper. He's a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: bad criminal because immediately after being questioned by Travis, he leaves.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: He gets into his car and drives to the cabin
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: where Lacy is hiding, not assuming that anybody might see him,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: like he's immediately followed there. He's a bad criminal.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ji, any did you see that? I have too? Okay,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: they're not in the traditional sense. And the first one
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: is they talk about fentanyl. Yes, I was like shook
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: by that. I was like, wow, like, we're talking about
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: hard drugs here and a Hallmark mystery movie. Well it
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: also maybe my brain timeline is out of whack, but
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it feels like ventanyl wasn't in the conversation until just
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Like this, it felt like
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: ahead of its time to be having that discussion. Even
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: though it's not a new drug. It just became like
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: kind of street drug common recently. Yeah, I'm not really
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: sure of the timeline of yeah drugs, but it just
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: became a thing that like everyone was like, don't let
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: your kids take ventanal laced candy or whatever. Yeah, laced candy.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay. The next thing is it's the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: moment when Travis and Amy turned face to face with
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: each other. I think they're like trying to solve something,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you know, their vibing like that. I know they're trying
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to sell something the whole entire movie, but I'm saying like,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and then they they turned face face and I'm like, boom,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: there's like this electric pause between them. Yeah, this is
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: all back to their chemistry. I'm like, it made me
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: feel things. Oh like I was like, this is this
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: is what I like. I need more of that. I hope,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't draw out for seven movies.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean me too, My did you see that? I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: have to say that the close captions in these movies
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: really deliver for me. And in this one, when they
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: ring the doorbell at the professor's house, the close caption
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: reads chimes like big Ben, what really?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Because they comment on it, they're like, huh, that's interesting.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But to me, if I didn't have the captions on,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I would be like, oh, it's interesting that he has
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: this like elaborate doorbell chime. Not I didn't recognize that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: as a recognizable tone.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really funny. Would you rate this movie? It's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a great, great start. I gave it three point seven
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: five stars. I gave it the exact same reason. But
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. I think I might
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: be rating this movie based on what I know is
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to come. Oh really, like I'm leaving room for growth
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: because I know there is growth happening. Got it? Yeah?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And got it? Got it? Got it? Yeah? Maybe all right?
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