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I'll Name This Episode Later !! · GAS MONEY

0:11
SPEAKER_02: That's my cue.
0:12
SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another installment of the Gas Money Podcast.
0:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie to you, the lights look a little weird.
0:19
SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: I like it.
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SPEAKER_02: Gas attendants.
0:28
SPEAKER_02: Thank you guys.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: Running it up.
0:30
SPEAKER_02: Doing what y'all do.
0:31
SPEAKER_02: The clips are out.
0:33
SPEAKER_02: The subs are up.
0:35
SPEAKER_02: The comments.
0:36
SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to come in this week and talk about the comments.
0:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
0:38
SPEAKER_02: I think we should, you know, start with a little bit of that.
0:42
SPEAKER_02: How do y'all feel, man?
0:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna get on the ass.
0:44
SPEAKER_02: Why?
0:47
SPEAKER_02: They talk heavy.
0:48
SPEAKER_02: I I liked um the clip you released of uh the Fat Joe clip.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: I like how you edited it.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: It was it was it was masterful work.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Appreciate that.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: It went it went it went good too.
0:59
SPEAKER_02: It went, I don't want to say viral because viral is real is relative.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02
SPEAKER_02: It was people liked it.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05
SPEAKER_02: Um what I would say to you guys, watch the the whole segment when you find clips.
1:12
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of people commenting things that we kind of covered in the segment that wasn't in the clip, and they were like, Well, you don't know about this.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: Like Puerto Rico has a lot, and I was like, that's kind of what I was saying.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think that was in the clip.
1:23
SPEAKER_02: We said Puerto Rico's one, two, three.
1:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean Cuba is one.
1:26
SPEAKER_02: Niggas is acting like I was not giving Puerto Rico any credit for being there.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: It's in there, they didn't listen to it.
1:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, do they they just skim through it, you know, like Jay said.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: You know, but it does show that we are multifaceted.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:37
SPEAKER_02: This is not uh just we don't talk about tea, gossip tea, exactly, clock it.
1:42
SPEAKER_02: What else?
1:43
SPEAKER_02: What else?
1:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Quiet on the Creek, all of that Quiet on the Creek.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: Yo, who you who you was hanging out there this weekend?
1:47
SPEAKER_02: I didn't hang out anymore.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: He was with the baddies.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: No, you're talking like it was raining.
1:51
SPEAKER_02: Clogget.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: I actually went to City Island.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: You was with the baddies.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: The Dominican baddies.
1:57
SPEAKER_02: I went to City Island.
1:57
SPEAKER_02: Yo, I was in City Island a few weeks ago.
2:00
SPEAKER_02: By the way, uh Mike says it's here, Charlie.
2:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry, sorry.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm way in the middle.
2:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, I'm gonna I'm here with the greatest.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: Mike says, let me give another round of applause.
2:12
SPEAKER_01: Mike says in the building.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: What up, what up?
2:14
SPEAKER_01: That's Mike with a Y.
2:16
SPEAKER_02: And I'm here with the best.
2:18
SPEAKER_02: The best way, the only way, the Charlie Wade.
2:20
SPEAKER_02: Charlie Wade, what's up, baby?
2:23
SPEAKER_02: And I'm your host, AG.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: All right, uh by the way, Jigga.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: By the way, we made it here in the middle of a northeastern tsunami slash storm.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: It's called a northeastern.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was a nor'eastern.
2:35
SPEAKER_02: I think you're right.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: But why is that about it?
2:36
SPEAKER_02: Why is it not northeast?
2:38
SPEAKER_02: Why is it not a northeastern?
2:39
SPEAKER_02: We're in the northeast, aren't we?
2:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we we're breaking the codes.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: I think um somebody turned the machine on.
2:45
SPEAKER_02: You believe in that?
2:47
SPEAKER_02: I believe in everything, brother.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: Even Jake.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm a conspiracy theorist.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: Of course I believe in Drake.
2:51
SPEAKER_02: He's real.
2:52
SPEAKER_02: He's a real thing.
2:53
SPEAKER_02: The machine.
2:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, so even with the whole snowstorm, that was all a machine.
2:57
SPEAKER_02: It's a button.
2:58
SPEAKER_02: Pressable button.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was actually overhyped.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: My basement didn't flood, thank God, you know.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't lose a car.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
3:06
SPEAKER_02: Thank God.
3:07
SPEAKER_02: I usually lose a car in my basement floods.
3:09
SPEAKER_02: That's usually what happens.
3:09
SPEAKER_02: It was kind of uh, and I live in Far Rock.
3:12
SPEAKER_02: When we got the tornado warning, we got a tornado.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: To be honest, I think the worst night was Friday night.
3:17
SPEAKER_02: I was out.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't that bad for now.
3:19
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
3:20
SPEAKER_02: It was raining.
3:21
SPEAKER_02: It was just a rainy day.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: They canceled all.
3:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was out too.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: It was just a lot of rain, a lot of wind.
3:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I was outside this weekend.
3:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they canceled my son's uh football shit.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: So I finally had a little bit to stretch a little bit.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: Got you.
3:32
SPEAKER_02: Man, I can't wait for him to invite me though.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: But that's fine.
3:35
SPEAKER_02: I didn't invite you to what?
3:36
SPEAKER_02: Huh?
3:37
SPEAKER_02: The last five things you did, you didn't invite me.
3:39
SPEAKER_02: He's the only one that invited me this time.
3:42
SPEAKER_02: Cut it out.
3:42
SPEAKER_02: But it's fine.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: It's all good.
3:44
SPEAKER_02: Um the last five things I did weren't on my event.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, neither was City Island.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: I was celebrating a birthday.
3:51
SPEAKER_02: Fatty's was out there though.
3:53
SPEAKER_02: It's cool.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: We do want to pop out though.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: To City Island?
3:58
SPEAKER_01: No, not necessarily.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh, just pop out?
4:00
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
4:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you guys are scared though.
4:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: We should actually make it a content type of.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm not opposed to it.
4:09
SPEAKER_02: We're going outside streaming?
4:10
SPEAKER_02: See how we.
4:13
SPEAKER_02: Y'all niggas just stream.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: I got ops.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: I might want to run into Rory or something.
4:18
SPEAKER_02: It might get crazy.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: It's static y outside in these streamers.
4:21
SPEAKER_02: We don't have any streamer beef at all.
4:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm in streamer beef.
4:24
SPEAKER_02: We don't have any pod beef.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: No, we don't.
4:28
SPEAKER_02: You think we do?
4:28
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, nah.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: Not to that level.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: So we do.
4:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, nah, I mean, I'm sure there's people who don't didn't leave here with the best taste in their mouth.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: Pause.
4:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh, um, that's not pot beef.
4:40
SPEAKER_02: It's that pod beef.
4:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like I'm saying it won't turn into a fight, but I don't think they're gonna be quick to dap you up when they see you.
4:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, gee, it's been so long.
4:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so the problem is with me.
4:50
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're still on the pod, so I guess.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
4:54
SPEAKER_02: You know, um we do need haters though.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: Hey, if you ain't got no haters, you ain't pay.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: Haters are your best celebrators.
5:01
SPEAKER_02: Y'all y'all do anything interesting.
5:02
SPEAKER_02: I I gave I gave it up already.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: Y'all did anything this weekend?
5:05
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I just stayed in the crib.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, actually, I was just cleaning and stuff, staying away from my brother.
5:10
SPEAKER_02: You wasn't with wifey?
5:11
SPEAKER_02: Huh?
5:12
SPEAKER_02: What?
5:12
SPEAKER_02: He heard me, right?
5:13
SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't hear you.
5:14
SPEAKER_02: You wasn't with wifey at all?
5:16
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: It's raining.
5:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, I had it's a movie.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: Well I had plans, right?
5:24
SPEAKER_02: Am I allowed to have plans without wifey?
5:27
SPEAKER_02: You're asking me?
5:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
5:28
SPEAKER_02: But if you're asking her?
5:29
SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, Friday was just Friday, so like it was just not it.
5:35
SPEAKER_02: Saturday I had plans.
5:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was my nephew's.
5:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm well, I I guess I could call it my nephew, but it was my second cousin's first birthday party.
5:44
SPEAKER_02: Because my cousin had a baby and it's his birthday party.
5:47
SPEAKER_02: So I went to that.
5:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't like birthday parties where you gotta take off your shoes.
5:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't like taking one off my shoes anywhere that I go that's out that's outside my house.
5:59
SPEAKER_02: I feel like if you have a no-shoe policy, you need to avoid that for the day and just clean the next day.
6:06
SPEAKER_02: Put out your put out, I don't know.
6:07
SPEAKER_02: You're very selfish, dude.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: It's not selfish, bro.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: What if it's like a rug house and you it's raining?
6:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, if it's uh if it's all rug, then I understand.
6:16
SPEAKER_02: But nigga, fuck you.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: It's my house.
6:19
SPEAKER_02: Take your shoes off.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: That's whack, bro.
6:21
SPEAKER_02: People got fits, people come in, you know, they take pictures.
6:24
SPEAKER_02: Take your pictures outside.
6:25
SPEAKER_02: I might I am I may not even know I got a hole in my sock.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: No, but I'm with you.
6:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm a bad sock, nigga.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: I keep the bad sock.
6:33
SPEAKER_02: You're a bad sock, yeah.
6:34
SPEAKER_02: I keep the bad sock.
6:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm a good sock guy.
6:36
SPEAKER_02: That's nasty.
6:37
SPEAKER_02: But I keep the bad sock.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: Nasty work.
6:39
SPEAKER_02: Are you giving are you lending him a sock if he has a hole in his sock?
6:42
SPEAKER_02: Or are you gonna let him sit in the embarrassment?
6:44
SPEAKER_02: Isn't he in his sock?
6:44
SPEAKER_02: No, I would, I would.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't want it back though.
6:48
SPEAKER_02: It's because I'm black.
6:49
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
6:50
SPEAKER_02: So somebody actually that's crazy.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: I was at work, right?
6:52
SPEAKER_02: I went to work and I forgot my socks at home because I did laundry and I forgot.
6:57
SPEAKER_02: I've never done no shit like that.
6:58
SPEAKER_02: You put on a shoe with no socks?
6:59
SPEAKER_02: No, I I went in slippers.
7:00
SPEAKER_02: I was wearing slippers.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: It's working.
7:01
SPEAKER_02: It was still summertime.
7:02
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like it was like a couple weeks ago.
7:03
SPEAKER_02: You went to work in slippers.
7:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:06
SPEAKER_02: Got it.
7:06
SPEAKER_02: I changed at work.
7:08
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know.
7:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't I don't do that.
7:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I I got to work in slippers, I changed.
7:11
SPEAKER_02: It's summertime.
7:12
SPEAKER_02: You that's crazy?
7:13
SPEAKER_02: Going to work in slippers?
7:14
SPEAKER_02: To me, but yeah, yeah.
7:15
SPEAKER_02: How?
7:16
SPEAKER_02: Why?
7:16
SPEAKER_02: I go to work in uniform.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but you I'm saying if you had to change at work.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't I would just go in my uniform, okay?
7:23
SPEAKER_02: The whole point of having a uniform job is not to Well, certain jobs the uniform might not be not be as clean.
7:29
SPEAKER_02: So you don't want to sit in your car with uniform.
7:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I get what you're gonna say.
7:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, I they I have a work car, so it's different.
7:34
SPEAKER_02: Got you.
7:35
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
7:35
SPEAKER_02: Work car Mercedes different.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: It's not stunning at all.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: Denim tears two weeks in a row.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: I see.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: Why why didn't you just pair the hoodie with the pants?
7:43
SPEAKER_02: It was too much, right?
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I felt like I don't like doing the super matchy, matchy.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I do it, but I like to, you know.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: Um so I asked my co my neighbor at the locker room if he had an extra pair of socks.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: People told me that was crazy, like to use someone else's sock.
8:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're not you're not supposed to wear another man's shoes or another man's socks.
8:04
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is, what do I do?
8:07
SPEAKER_02: I have no choice.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: This is this is back to the kicking nigga in the balls thing.
8:10
SPEAKER_02: In a 99 cent store, nigga.
8:12
SPEAKER_02: Nah, see, but I'm not that punctual, so I got like five minutes to clock in.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: Are you route?
8:16
SPEAKER_02: I gotta get it.
8:17
SPEAKER_02: You gotta route, right?
8:18
SPEAKER_02: I do, I do.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: Hit a 99 cent store.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: So it's from raw dog to boots until I get to where I gotta go.
8:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
8:25
SPEAKER_02: Yo, that's that's rough.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's rough.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Now, I want to buy him socks.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: Is that crazy?
8:30
SPEAKER_02: You want to buy another man's socks?
8:32
SPEAKER_02: What's the occasion?
8:33
SPEAKER_02: He lent me his.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: I I felt Oh no, no, you're repaying him.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: That's that's that's a couple percent.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: All right, cool, cool, cool.
8:38
SPEAKER_02: Because they were like, No, I don't want your socks.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, manly, I don't want no sock.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: Eat that, take that.
8:42
SPEAKER_02: That's you, you're you know, yeah.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: So all right.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: That's a really good gesture, giving him a fresh pair.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm very big on rewarding for convenience.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, if like let's say I needed ice, which I usually do when I get here.
8:59
SPEAKER_02: He's never brought me ice back.
9:01
SPEAKER_02: Shout out ice ice, just because you mentioned it.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: All right, forget it, forget it.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna use that.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're a bad person.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: But um, if if okay if I'll use this example, if I need a sock and you lend me a sock, I'm gonna go get you like a six-pack of Nike sock.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Like a like a good, just to overpay for not just the sock, but what my life would have been if I didn't have it.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: This is where you're missing me.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: You're not overpaying, though.
9:22
SPEAKER_02: Because when you needed it, I was there.
9:23
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm but uh the same, yeah.
9:25
SPEAKER_02: Like the and even payment would just be give you a regular sock.
9:29
SPEAKER_02: So what's what's what's overpaying then?
9:31
SPEAKER_02: Two packs?
9:32
SPEAKER_02: Buy me a shoe.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll fucking jump a job.
9:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, like um, for example, I was I was late to work, I was almost late to work the other day.
9:42
SPEAKER_02: The my my supervisor, he did what he had to do, so I I wasn't late.
9:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, I bought him a six-pack.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, of what?
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Beer.
9:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, what type of beer?
9:50
unknown: Cella.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh what was it?
9:52
SPEAKER_02: Cella.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so just he didn't I he didn't ask for nothing.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: He would have done it, he's done it for me before, but I gotta like, cause I needed you, and you were there.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: I respect that.
10:04
SPEAKER_01: That's love, that's love.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: I like that.
10:06
SPEAKER_02: All right, we don't got no pot beef, but there is some pot beef, and it got serious.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: Girls love Beyonce, but girls also love karaoke.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: Hey, do you love karaoke?
10:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay, my karaoke story is I did karaoke with Asian people.
10:24
SPEAKER_02: That was my first experience.
10:25
SPEAKER_02: So you did K-pop.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: And these, no, this is before K-pop was a thing.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: Asian people love karaoke.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: It's big and oh yeah, they love Japan and yeah.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: So I went out one night in high school and it was like a BYOB karaoke spot.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: Fire.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: You ever you ever hit some Asian?
10:41
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm in I live in Queens.
10:43
SPEAKER_02: I I never got I never That's because you don't leave my swag wasn't.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: Hello, what's the question?
10:47
SPEAKER_02: You ever hit some Asian?
10:48
SPEAKER_02: He never left his block.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: I live right by Well, yeah.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: You live flushing is you can spin on flushing from Yeah, yeah.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: So I I just never spun that block.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: Gotta you gotta spread your head.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you weren't in the friend zone all you left.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where that narrative came from.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: The comments.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the comments.
11:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bravo, guys.
11:04
SPEAKER_02: You guys are doing great out there.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: Keep it up.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Yo, but yeah, man, um, the JVP was outside, at least half of it.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: So, to paint the picture.
11:13
SPEAKER_02: Alright, Kendrick.
11:14
SPEAKER_02: Because um, yeah, you know he's great at that.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: Because uh Mike says wasn't he's not up to speed.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: He don't know the characters, and you guys probably don't either.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: So Flip, who has built a persona of himself as being a very loud, annoying, bah bah bah type of guy before he was ever on the pod.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: You see, that's the funny part with Flip.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: When he first came out, I didn't get the tough guy shit from him.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: When he first started, Jack Bobby first started.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: When he first got on JP.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Before I never got that from him until he started his own pod, and his pod went viral for him fighting people on his pod.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: So that's where the tough guy narrative started.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: But when he first came out, he was a cornball.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: He was a funny nigga, short, fat nigga, doing skits.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, he was doing the car thing where he was like aggressively grabbing and touch people in the car, and then he was always on the receiving end of an ass whooping the nose.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: Like there's a funny video of Tiana Taylor like punching him in his face, like seriously punching him in his face.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but that was his whole thing.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: And now, after he got his own pod and then he got on the JBP, there's a new persona that he's this tough guy.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: Displaying.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: Now, in his defense or offense, I there's a couple of videos of him getting into static with people, and he's not ducking no smoke, he's not running.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Rory, who if you are a part of the JTV JBTV multiverse, would know that he's a white boy who has around a lot of blacks, and he carries himself like I'm with all the smoke too.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: Now, he doesn't have the overt tough guy thing, but he's more of a I'm I'll get my ass kicked, I don't care.
12:53
SPEAKER_02: So those are two very interesting characters to bump.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: So their beef stems from the fact that when um Flip first joined the Joe Bunning podcast, he was like Mall and Roy are suckers.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: Now I want to start there.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about that?
13:09
SPEAKER_02: Do you have to inherit your friends or coworkers or boss beef pause?
13:19
SPEAKER_02: Um not all the time.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: And where where do you even make that distinction?
13:24
SPEAKER_02: One, what the beef is about.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: Um if it's if it's business like their beef was, I don't really think I have to inherit that.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: And um and if it's personal, especially if I'm not friends, because that's the thing.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh Flip was not friends with them.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: No.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: Now, Rory, he did say Rory has always supported him, like has shouted him out, even on the pod when Rory was on it, um, and said, like, yo, no, Flip is funny with other cases, but they never really had like a friendship.
13:52
SPEAKER_02: No.
13:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, um, but the thing is, Flip, I think Flip looks at himself like a comedian.
13:57
SPEAKER_02: No, not anymore.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: He's changing that next.
13:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's yes, but at what at the sucker time, he was still on his like sketch.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Comedian.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: Shit, comedians.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: So that's from what I know, that's what he is.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't really know Flip much before the pod.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: I did.
14:10
SPEAKER_02: So I saw his skits and stuff, but I didn't I didn't know he was on because he had something called the callers and stuff.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: That's where he fought the guy.
14:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, he even said that he got in a fight with somebody, the guy broke his jaw and he interviewed him right after the fight.
14:21
SPEAKER_02: So, like, and then they jumped him in in the interview.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: But um that's the sad of it.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: So, um, I mean, I mean, my answer is not all the time.
14:29
SPEAKER_02: It depends.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I'm just doing a little story time with AG.
14:34
SPEAKER_02: I was once like Flip in the sense of the loyalty thing.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: I was once a super duper loyal dude.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, I still have a lot of traits of this, but I had to turn tone it down a little bit because I've lost a lot of I've gained a lot of perspective by inheriting other people's beefs.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: Because there's two things that we always forget, right?
14:55
SPEAKER_02: When two friends beef, there's always the possibility that they become cool again.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: But the friend that you were shitting on, he's gonna remember that you were shitting on him.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: And give you no grace.
15:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're gonna become cool again, but you might end up on the out of that whole thing because you decide to be loyal to one over the other.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: And I think that that friend that you were loyal to can't allow that relationship to continue if that person doesn't like be like, yo, you good too.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that's nigga.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: If you jumped out the window for me and I made up, if like if I'm beefing with Mike and you jump out the window for me and I make up with Mike, I'll be like, yo, Mike, he was he was riding for me, like he's cool.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Mike might be like, fuck that nigga.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: Then I then I I gotta ride with you.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: No, no, but that that that's what you should do, but that doesn't that's not what happens in real life.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: In real life, niggas is just like, yo, Mike.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: He's saying he he thinks that that should follow.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it don't.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: In real life, he's gonna be like, uh Mike said you can't be around, bro.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so loyalty to that level is great.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: You get to go at home at night and sleep and be like, yeah, I did the right thing.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: I had my man's back.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: But sometimes niggas take your loyalty and use it against you, and it's it's really it's really sad.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: You good, bro?
16:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm good.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: So what I saw was Rory come do what they're calling the Irish dance, the jig, the the jig.
16:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, they're also calling Rory um Rory J.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: Blige.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think that's in hilarious, that's a hilarious thing.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: That's uh that's hilarious.
16:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, because he was kind of blodging.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, uh Rory comes up, he's doing a little dance.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's going on, but and and and uh Flip is confused.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: When I'm while I'm watching this, I don't know that Flip has never met Rory.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't know that.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: So, because Rory's pulling up real confident and real like, hey, it's been a while, but like they have met before.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: He does his little dance, whatever, and then he does the even though it got debunked, but what people thought was that the shoulder grab, you know, that when you press it.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean they debunked it?
16:51
SPEAKER_02: They they flip uh froze the front of the film and like zoomed in and they his finger is not really squeezing his shoulder.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: It was it wasn't that.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: But in the words of Bernie Mack, America, I saw the footage.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
17:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a fuck how many times they freeze it.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: I know what it looks like when a nigga is getting pressed.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: And this whole thing is nasty.
17:11
SPEAKER_02: So is that a so is that a press?
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have pressed a hundred people in my life.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: So you know, I know what a press is.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even doing this on no tough guy shit.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: I have I've been in a position in my friend group where I've had to.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: You owe my man money.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: And my man is not gonna tell you about it, but I'm gonna tell you about it.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: I have 100% done that.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Y'all can go check.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: So I have done the Rory.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: He pressed that nigga.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't care what Rory says, I don't care what Flip says.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: He pressed that nigga.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: But I what confirmed it as a press for me is that Flip thought about it and he had to go double back.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if it wasn't a press, why he had to double back?
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had to double back and be like, oh, yeah.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: These niggas being nasty about this whole thing.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: I can't wait till we get to the aftermath.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: Which niggas?
17:50
SPEAKER_02: Both sides.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: Rory and Flip.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: The aftermath.
17:52
SPEAKER_02: When they both spoke about it on their own platforms, yeah, they're being nasty.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, you know, it became into their father.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: Allegedly, they they Flip went back to uh Rory and said, Um, don't ever do that again.
18:04
SPEAKER_02: I'll keep threatening this life.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: I'll kill you.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna kill this nigga.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, that that I was that on camera?
18:09
SPEAKER_02: No.
18:09
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that came in in the recap between both sides.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: But I didn't see that on camera.
18:13
SPEAKER_02: On camera, it just looked like Flip went back and been like, oh, whatever you was doing, like I thought you was joking.
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Because I do think Flip, I do believe Flip.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: No, I do believe a lot of what Flip was saying, but not everything.
18:23
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna tell you what I don't believe.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: I do believe Flip did not remember calling him a sucker.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do remember.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: And I do believe that Flip thought that even if he did call him a sucker, I thought he thought Rory was joking.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, we suggest, right?
18:34
SPEAKER_02: This and that.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: Because I disagree.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: You don't think Flip thought Rory was joking?
18:38
SPEAKER_02: No.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell you what I think happened.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Tell me.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: And this is me as a podcaster sitting on a chair that don't know none of these people, that don't have an allegiance to any of these people.
18:48
SPEAKER_02: I actually have a little bit of negative bias towards Flip because I don't like his representation.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: I wish he was just go by Flip.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't like the fact that he says he's Queen's Flip because I don't like his representation of our city of our time.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm the webinar.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
19:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't like how he represents Queens.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Because we Queens niggas don't act like that.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: And we get flyed.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that nigga's he don't be fly and like, especially from a fat nigga perspective.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm a fat dude.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: I I put that shit on when I need to.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: He don't do that.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: He's older guy, he's West Indian dude, cool and all of that.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Just name yourself Flip and you represent yourself.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Don't represent Queens.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't like that shit.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: But that's just me.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: What the kid's called?
19:25
SPEAKER_02: Hating.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm just hating, right?
19:26
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: So the first thing for me is he knew Rory was pressing him the minute that he did that.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: You can see it in the clip when he thought about it.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: In the moment, I do believe he did not know that Rory was pressing him.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: But when he figured out that he was, he went over there to let Rory know that, hey, I don't like the fact that you're pressing me.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: So him running around saying that, oh, I didn't know that I was gonna press, that's bullshit.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: Because we Well I'm saying he's saying I while the press was happening, he's saying he didn't.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: That's fair.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: And and that's what I'm saying.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: But then I would say that's a tactical error on his part because from the from the footage, you can see Rory was upset.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: Like I could I could tell, and I wasn't even the room.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: You was just dancing for the floor.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: The dancing shit was weird.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: And Rory explained all of that.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: But you were just dancing in my stream, and now you wrap your hand around me and said, We suckers.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: So I'm not from the from the third time he said we suck us, right?
20:15
SPEAKER_02: We suckers, right?
20:16
SPEAKER_02: Me personally, I would have known that it was smoke.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: I I would have known.
20:20
SPEAKER_02: And then that's what that's what Philip was like, we talking about me and you.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Like he mind you, we never met.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that yeah, that's it.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: So it's like you're dancing on this the the the what we see is a camera in the in the in the spot.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: When you're actually beh in front of the camera, it's a black.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: It's a production.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: You know that this is a camera on, yeah.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: And um, and you know flip streams.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: So when you're dancing for my camera, I'm thinking like you kind of showing love.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: Like you know what I'm saying?
20:46
SPEAKER_02: But Rory did a really good explanation of why he did all this.
20:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so but then yeah, when he thought about it, like, hold up, like, what just happened?
20:53
SPEAKER_02: And then Imani told him that also what like he kind of put a battery in his back, which I respect in the me in the in the internet era.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: In Imani's side, he told him after it happened, he's like, yo, that shit's all over the internet.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: You look crazy.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Go do what you gotta do.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: Imani's also Imani's also a cornball.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: He's a crasher.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't fuck with that dude either.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't really like him either.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: But he's corny.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: I hate corny nickname.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he gives me corny.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't want niggas to be on some like, oh, y'all niggas is hating or Dick Rodden's JBP and all of that shit.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: Because they have a rapid fan base.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: That's cool, but it's I'm just being honest about what my eyes and ears have seen.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: And I think Imani and Flip are both cornball.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think they're better off without Amani.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: Now, he does do alright in the interviews when they got artists, but I'd rather have Imani out of there.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're parting about partner right now.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: I like this.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um, yeah.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: So what what was the what was Rory's So Rory's.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: In the aftermath, Rory has his own platform.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Flip is on the Joe B uh Joe Buddhum podcast.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: So Rory's whole thing was he copped out and said that I was acting like a sucker that night.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: He said that what he thought was gonna happen is And he said it.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: He had like I had a little bit of main character syndrome.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, I thought that Flip is still on this energy.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: And when he saw Flip in the spot with the cameras, and he saw like another, like he saw like cameras moving around, he thought that Flip was about to COE and have a moment with Rory.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: So he was on the best defense is offense.
22:20
SPEAKER_02: So instead of you catching me in a lacking, I'm going to go crash the whole thing and throw you off your game.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: So from that perspective, I understand why Rory did everything that he did.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: If I think you're about to run up on me and make a fool of me, let me go beat you to the punch.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to go in front of your camera.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start acting crazy.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm going to press you and then I'm going to move on.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: So now you can't be on some like, he doesn't know the pre-production.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: Outside, he could have been like, yo, I know Rory's in there, and we're about to go, we're about to go press Rory.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: And Rory would have been caught flat footed, and he probably would have looked worse.
22:49
SPEAKER_02: So he said that he just tried to jump him.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, he's about to do some funny shit.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: COE.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: I know how Flip is, and I told you Flip's personality is on some like content over everything.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm hypey.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna grab you, touch you, and push you.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: So instead of letting that happen, I'ma just press the issue and I do have an issue with him.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: And there was alcohol involved.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: So there's always that.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: And that was his version of it.
23:11
SPEAKER_02: And he copped out and said, What I did was wrong.
23:13
SPEAKER_02: I put my people's in a predicament, and I shouldn't have done that.
23:17
SPEAKER_02: And I actually became what Flip was calling me a sucker.
23:21
SPEAKER_02: I do love, absolutely love how Demaris and Mo held them accountable.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: They were they didn't hold much punches with him.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: They were like, that was wrong.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: You were bugging, you put the Maris at risk, you put Reason, who's a rapper, they put he was with him at risk.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: Um and you just evaluated that whole situation incorrectly.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
23:44
SPEAKER_02: Because, number one, you're this isn't away game.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: You're not home.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: Yep, you don't know who's in there.
23:49
SPEAKER_02: You don't know who's in her.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you do know that Amani, well, you may not know, but Amani's real close with the people who run the I Love characters.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: I had no idea about it.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: So Amani was in there, ishes in there, uh Flip is in there.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is Oh, yeah.
24:00
SPEAKER_02: So this we would have got packed up because we came actually.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because all Flip, Mani, all there are they're also coming with day people.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like so it's just you reasoning and the math.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: That's bad tactical.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: You should have just left.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Maul was like, yo, you I don't need I don't even know why you even uh approached him.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
24:16
SPEAKER_02: And Flip on his recap, he also said that a couple months ago, I don't know if you remember, Rory had a stroke.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that wasn't public knowledge, something like that.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: One of the two.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: And um medical crisis.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: He said he texted, he DM'd Rory immediately and said, yo, like, well, wishes, this is after the sucker thing.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: Well wishes, I heard you, you know, you fucked up right now, get better.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: And supposedly Rory was like, okay, cool, thank you, whatever the case is.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: So when this happens, more uh Flip is like last we spoke, I was praying you got out the hospital, okay.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know where I don't really like that.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: Because let's put this into perspective.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: If you call me a sucker, right?
24:54
SPEAKER_02: And then you have a health thing, and I'm hitting you up about the health thing.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: Privately.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, are we gonna speak about the sucker thing?
25:05
SPEAKER_02: I think I think that would have been very low brow of Rory to bring up the sucker thing.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, thank you for appreciating the fact that I didn't almost die, but yeah, you call me a sucker, so suck my dick.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, I think that would that would have been the time to do it.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I don't I disagree.
25:17
SPEAKER_02: I think that the time to do it is when I see you next.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: But from a tactical standpoint, if the next time I see you, you have all your guns and I don't, you gotta I'll wait for the next time.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll wait for the next time.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm I'm not gonna bring up the fact that you call me a sucker while you're DMing me about my health.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: I think that's a weird, like I would feel like Flip would be able to call him a sucker in that moment.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: If Mind you, where we also just saw Flip this just this summer fighting on Eastern Park.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: So like more, I mean Rory, you're you're don't act like you don't know where this could have went.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: No, it absolutely and he said it in his recap that I knew where it could have gone, and I just didn't that's my personality.
25:59
SPEAKER_02: If we're gonna bump, we're gonna bump.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: And I'll do it right here.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: I'll get my ass kicked or I'll win the fight.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: I can get jumped.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: And Rory did say in his accountability thing was that I wasn't thinking about the fact that reason Y'all gonna have to jump in.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then even if y'all don't, y'all are brands are associated with this, and even if y'all don't jump in, the people that they're gonna have jump in might just steal on you because you with him.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: I put y'all in that position.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: I didn't tap y'all and be like, yo, y'all should probably leave.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm about to go do this.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: I didn't say, yo, listen, I'm about to go do this, y'all should get ready, I should call my back on it.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: I didn't call, yeah, I didn't call nobody.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: And he even asked Maul.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: I think Maul asked him, What do you think I would have done?
26:33
SPEAKER_02: And then he Rory's response to Maul was I don't know.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: And Maul was just like, yeah, bro, I wouldn't have said nothing to him.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wouldn't have even gotten into a conversation with him.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: But that's Maul's character.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: And you asking a lion to be a fish, I don't think that's fair.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: And I think Maul knows that there's it's not real smoke between Flip, because look again, Flip never met any of them.
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: So I think they would chalk it up to he's just riding for his man's, he's on some pod shit.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's flip.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: It's one thing if Ish did it or like Mark, like they're not COE like that, but Flip, he's it's some niggas that you gotta, and this is the problem with the This is like the drunk cousin that you know, like it's like ah, he's just he's just there.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: In this era, I think we're missing out the fact of just because it's COE or you're sitting here, even us, we're sitting here talking shit.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: I just call them on, I don't know the Mani, I don't know Flip.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: I just call both of them corny.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: I can't expect that when I go out into the world that they're just gonna be like, oh no, he was just on a podcast.
27:24
SPEAKER_02: If they punch me in my face, they have every right to do it.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: But I think that it's a little different if I have a beef with a mani.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we have rules, real smoke guys, and like I feel he feels like he owes me money, where we're talking shit to each other online, this and that.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: And now add the fact that you're known as a flambo, not flamboyant, um um hot head, crash out, whatever the case is, and you just be like, yeah, fuck them niggas, let them niggas suck.
27:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm riding with you.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna be Amani's gonna be like, all right, my issues really with Charlie, like you was just like co-just I'm from a different era.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: You just solely brought that up on your own and just say, I think that nigga's a sucker.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: I could now the way you did it is different than the way I think Flip did it.
28:02
SPEAKER_02: It's all the same to me, personally, because words have to have meaning.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: And I'm I'm just tired of living in a world where Yeah, but not all words, depending how the words are intended or said, No, if I said it as a joke, it doesn't hold the same weight.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: But but but Flip didn't say it as a joke.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: If I would have said he's a sucker, you'd be like, You don't fuck with that nigga?
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Nah, he's a sucker too.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Fuck that.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's a sucker.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: I think it's different than honestly, I think a man is a sucker when nobody was even talking about that.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: To me, they're both the same thing.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: To me.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: And again, I think we live in an era where because there's cameras and lights, that these things are supposed to be treated that way, but not everybody feels that way.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: And clearly, um, Rory didn't feel that way.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: You said a name to me, uh you said something about me, I didn't like it, and I'm gonna press the issue about it, and you're gonna have to show me a motherfucker, and that's how that shit works.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: But on the flip side, these people are all 40 years old.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Like, they're 40 years old sitting down making hundreds of thousands of dollars to talk shit.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Don't act like you're too far removed.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: And no, no, no.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking to you at 40.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I'm grabbing that nigga should be.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm a different type of guy though, and I want to mature.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: I hope that at 40, I'm not though.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: I hope that I have matured out of that.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: I've hoped that I'm sitting down in my mansion or my penthouse, and I'm like, yo, sitting on the podcast, talking shit as he paid me.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: The little nigga downstairs calling me a bitch.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give up all of this for that.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: And I think they are at that level.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: So why is Rory so hung up on the fact that Flip called him a sucker?
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Dude that he's never even met.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Years ago.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like come on, bro.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh, does this help or hurt Rory anymore?
29:36
SPEAKER_02: It helps them.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely helps them.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: All publicity is good.
29:39
SPEAKER_02: All publicity's good publicity.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: Most publicity is good publicity.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: Unless you're on the other end of not like us.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's that's a that's a that's a different thing.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, no, I think it helps him.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: I think it helps, yeah.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: They got their name in his eye guys.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then I know Rory's like the internet joke right now.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: Now that I said that, do you think not like us actually in a way helped Drake?
30:01
SPEAKER_02: No.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: You don't think it gave him another level to go to?
30:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't think he was at a place where it was like, all right, what do you do now?
30:08
SPEAKER_02: What do you talk about now?
30:09
SPEAKER_02: It gave him some controversy that he needed to overcome, but even that's a reach.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: A lot of content too.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: A lot of this album is I think Well, would you if you had Drake in the room and you asked him, hey, would you have preferred not like us to have come out or not or he's gonna say nobody wants to be called?
30:24
SPEAKER_04: No, but once you have it, it's like them.
30:27
SPEAKER_04: Okay, this kind of I'm gonna say no.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: You got a dragon to slay.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say no.
30:31
SPEAKER_04: Because his leverage against his label is even, I think, higher because the success of these albums, um, and you know, FOMO, whatever everything going on, I think he's back at the evaluation he was at in 2024.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: I would say that's one way to look at it.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: I would say that today, I think he's glad that happened.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Not glad, but like I would say he capitalized.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking about the I'm not I'm not talking about um Yeah, I'm not saying glad that, you know, I'm just saying like he's like, alright.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: That Super Bowl moment is etched in history, though.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: If I'm him to be honest, to be honest, that that is the worst moment, I think.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the worst moment of the whole beef.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: The Super Bowl?
31:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: And that only exists because of not like us and Jay.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: And not like us.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Jay, man.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Jay.
31:24
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's talk about the culture, man.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: Is Jay dropping an album, bro?
31:28
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: Hope so.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: I hope so.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why you not you don't even like his music.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: No, look, I I I've listened, I've listened and liked.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: For example, I like Magna Carter.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: When a nigga hate When a nigga voice get that to that octave, he's lying.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: I've listened and liked to every uh Jay-Z album that has come out since I've been listening to rap.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: So anything.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: My the first Jay-Z album that I actually listened to bottom was Blueprint 3.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: And I liked it.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: That's a very strange start for Jay.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: I liked Forever Young.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: I like that was a very commercial album.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, I like that.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: It was my first.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: I went back a little bit, but I never really deep delve, I don't know, deep delve, whatever back.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: But um, from then on, I listened.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: So 444, I like Magna Carta.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm still waiting for the second verse on beaches.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: This is like if um somebody started watching LeBron as a Laker.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: That's how you sound.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
32:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm dead serious.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: No, this is like as a as him as a heat.
32:21
SPEAKER_02: No, but as a Jay fan, I'm telling you, this is you're watching Laker LeBron.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: And again, Laker LeBron, all-star, all-NBA, like still great, but you missed out on the prime.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: This is how this is how we me and Mike feel about you and the.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, but I went back.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: No, it's never gonna feel the same as the.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: And even with Jay, I missed Jay during his peak.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Um we're the same age.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: So I didn't get to see Jake at the peak of his powers, but I just went back and absorbed the music.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: I didn't see the cultural impact.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: I gotta hear about an interview is like when Jay um changed how niggas dressed.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: Like he was part of the we're not doing throwback jerseys no more.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: We're doing the suit in Tasha.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: He did that.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: So you can thank him for all those parties.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: What came first?
33:03
SPEAKER_02: That or Sean John?
33:05
SPEAKER_02: Probably around the same time.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Cause Diddy came with the suits too.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: No, but Jay didn't invent wearing the suits.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Jay didn't invent the suits, he just invented changing the style.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Sean gave us the suits to wear.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
33:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: And you know, Diddy's, he wasn't that big of an artist to have that type of impact, but he's the one that, hey, here are the suits to wear.
33:22
SPEAKER_02: Can I can I get off a Sean John tracksuit today?
33:26
SPEAKER_02: I un I ironically, yes, but not unironically.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Like if you know, if you're in on the joke, then yeah, but you can't just put that shit on and being like, no, I'm dressed nice today.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Because I think to this day they still have one of the hardest tracksuits.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: That Sean John logo is a fire.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: Diddy, yo, again.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a cop on it.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: I say this all the time.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: When Diddy comes back, I'm going to the second Diddy party.
33:50
SPEAKER_02: Say it all the time.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: Not for sure.
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Not the first one.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: I'll go to the second one.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: I'll go to the first.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: Because you're a freak.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: Diddy do it?
33:57
SPEAKER_02: Daphne might be there.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Daphne definitely.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: No, she will be there.
34:03
SPEAKER_02: He got a shit on 50.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: 50 was doing a lot.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, we have the culture.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: The culture takes a new person to stand in the name of Shaquille O'Neal.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: So Shaq has been in the Zeitgeist because people were criticizing him for selling out.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: Shaq has a history of.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: That's what it is.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: That's what that you that's what you feel it was?
34:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Shaq has a history of being cool with law enforcement.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Shaq is every city that he's played for, which is Miami, LA, Boston, Boston, every city that he goes to, he teams up with the police department.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: Like he becomes like an honorary sheriff or something like that.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: And for black people, that's kind of strange optics in the era of we're seeing now.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: We've known this forever.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: But he's not out there in like No, but it's like it's like if how would you feel if Romeo Santos was like arm in arm with ice?
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, no, come on.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not that's not that.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: That's literally that.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wouldn't.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know how ice affects your community, but the police kill black people.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: And we're seeing it like every day.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but they also they also uh you know, they're also the people you called to be safe.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: No, the uh a a black woman called the cops to save her and they ended up killing her.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: I know what you're talking about.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: So what point black women call cops every day also and they end up over.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: That's true, but there's a lot of black people that are in fear of police for this specific reason.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: And you are now putting your arm around the police.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: That is bad optics for our culture in this time.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: Now the FBI.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: And now he's putting his arm around Cash Patel, who is the leader of the FBI, and it's horrible optics.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: And then when people are calling him to task, he's telling them how broke they are and how you live in your little apartment and enjoy your little apartment while I'm in my big mansion and I'm cool with the cops.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: It's just really bad optics on Shaq's part.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: And we love Shaq.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: We always want to love Shaq because Shaq has always been bigger than life.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: Shaq is cool, a cool guy.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: Shaq mostly stays away from politics.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: So then why are you doing this?
36:16
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna take a lot for me to hate Shaq.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: And he's been getting away with this.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: And I think that people number one.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Shaq does a lot for the community and for people.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: Shaq, many, what are you gonna say?
36:31
SPEAKER_02: No, I saw a great analogy for this, a counterpunch to this.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: And I don't even know who the podcaster was that did it, but I'm stealing it, right?
36:37
SPEAKER_02: Just the way you put the cup down, I feel like.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: I got I gotta write, I gotta counterpunch to this.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so throw your ace first.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: This is a big joker, there's no bigger card than this.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: So you have a parent, you're the dad of the house.
36:50
SPEAKER_02: You you go to all the football games, you take care of all the bills, you you show up.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: You're not you're not just a parent that throws money at it, you're also physically there.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna hate Shaq.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: You don't miss nothing.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, I got you.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: And then a robber comes into the house.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: And you leave your you run and you leave your family.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: That's the counterpunch?
37:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's what Shaq did.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: That is not what he did.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: You're there for me, and the moment that I need you, you're not.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: He's been there many times when people need it.
37:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what the dad did.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: But why, all right, but but the robbers here.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: And I need you to step up to Cash Patel and be like, no, I'm not gonna put my arms around you because my community is telling me that you are not responsive to us.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: So now what about when Shaq's son gets stopped by the police?
37:36
SPEAKER_02: No, Shaq's son's gonna be fine because he's Shaq's son.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: What about my son?
37:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm not Shaq.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, what about uh Sandra's son?
37:43
SPEAKER_02: What about all the other people that went?
37:45
SPEAKER_02: They can't call the police.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: What about Kaepernick with Jay-Z?
37:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, like, I need you right now, and you're out here teaming up over there.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, but Kaepernick's.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: I feel like this is kind of similar.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: Kaepernick also got paid.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: That's the part.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: But I understand that, but that didn't happen at this time.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: This happened later on.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: No, it happened at the same time.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Wait, what happened at the same time?
38:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what were you saying?
38:04
SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, wait.
38:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, okay.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: You're saying in the same timeline when Jay-Z did that deal, he got paid.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: All of that happened at the same time.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: He was still trying out for the team.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: He still got paid for the night.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was in the same time.
38:17
SPEAKER_02: I understand.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is, all right.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is also is that maybe Shaq's presence with the police department could help them not kill black people.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: But why didn't they?
38:26
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't it help all the 20 other times he did it?
38:28
SPEAKER_02: All right.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: There's probably been see you can't count the times that it did help because when it went like you when when the cop didn't kill the black person, it's hard to say that's because of Shaq.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
38:37
SPEAKER_02: So you can't count.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit, you're right.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: Let me go talk to Cash Patel.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Let me go let him know, hey, my people need this.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: Your response was, You're broke.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Shut the fuck up.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: What started this law enforcement thing with Shaq?
38:56
SPEAKER_02: Did he always want to be a cop as a kid?
38:58
SPEAKER_02: Something like that.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: Which is fine.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is the thing.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: I think his dad was a cop.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his dad was his dad.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: No, I think his dad's like.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: But hold up.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm not really quite understanding.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, is he a cop?
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's He's an honorary sheriff everywhere he goes.
39:09
SPEAKER_02: He makes it his business.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Whatever city he plays for, he goes to the police department and he's like, I want to be in a part of the police department.
39:17
SPEAKER_02: So they make him an honorary sheriff.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: Right, but can he literally arrest someone?
39:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know because I'm not law enforcement.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: I think as I think in Florida, especially, I think he can.
39:27
SPEAKER_02: I really don't know.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: Because you can get you can get deputized.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: Like you right, like let's say a cop comes in here right now and there's an invest like uh there's a like they shut down Far Rocco and there's people they're like, oh shit, there's people outside killing.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: A cop can deputize all of us.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: We can be police for that hour, that day, whatever.
39:41
SPEAKER_02: We have all the rights and stuff as a cop.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: Police can do that.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is No nothing.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: Because they they have the jurisdiction to do that.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Which is uh cops have a lot of powers that people don't talk about, but it's alright.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: That's what happened during um the Tulsa race riot, by the way.
39:55
SPEAKER_02: But okay.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, a lot of those white people that were shooting uh black people in Tulsa were not cops, they were deputized by cops.
40:02
SPEAKER_02: The ISC talking about.
40:03
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm talking about in like Tulsa.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh, got you, got you.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Now, what does Shaq say how what what have C what have he said about this?
40:10
SPEAKER_02: I told you what he said.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: You're broke.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: You're broke.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: Shut the fuck up.
40:13
SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: I think you guys are missing the problem.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: So let me give you anything.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: No, they're the first time.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: Nobody gave a fuck about it before.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: This is what I'm trying.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: This is why I use the ice analogy.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: How does ice affect the Dominican community?
40:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: Dominican specifically, uh, I haven't.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: What affects your community?
40:28
SPEAKER_02: Give me something.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: Give me anything.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: Um here in US.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: Anywhere.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: Give me something that you as a community are like, hey, we're against.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: And DR politicians.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so give me the most corrupt politician in DR, right?
40:42
SPEAKER_02: And Romeo, no, Alla Foca goes to him and he's puts his arm around him, and all of DR is like, yo, bro, don't do that.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: That's a bad look.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: And Alla Folk is like, yo, shut up, y'all are broke.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: How would you respond to that?
40:54
SPEAKER_02: I understand.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what Shaq is.
40:56
SPEAKER_02: That is not exactly what happened.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: What's the difference?
40:59
SPEAKER_02: What happened was this person that was criticizing Shaq.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: All right, number one, this is Shaq's go-to.
41:07
SPEAKER_02: Shaq has been at least two or three times before, when people talk shit about him, he goes to you're broke, shut up.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Which is also corny, but sure.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, again, because it's easy.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know nothing about you, but you know everything about me.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: So it's hard to do.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we're not talking about money.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: Um I know, but what I'm I'm we just so all right.
41:25
SPEAKER_02: So let me tell you why I feel like Shaq said that is because the guy wasn't just criticizing him, the guy was also burning Shaq's jersey.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: So some people How was he burning his jersey, Charlie?
41:36
SPEAKER_02: Because he didn't like that he was had his arm around.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: I I think that needs to be a part of the conversation.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: No, but cool.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is that some people do look at that as disrespectful.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: No, it's meant to be.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so then now I'm gonna now I'm not gonna listen to your critique with grace.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna look at it, I'm gonna listen to it, and now respond with disrespect.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: Which is why I would say fuck your critique because you didn't, you weren't trying to be.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: See, that's the thing.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: The critique wasn't said in a way to like educate me.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: You were trying to like shit on me.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it wasn't like you was reaching out to your fellow black brother and be like, oh, Shaq, but that uh that guy's not the only person that said anything to Shaq, that's just a public one.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm okay, because Shaq replied to him.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, Shaq's not gonna reply to everybody.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Took his time to choose the guy that was burning his jersey.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: There's other people that are on podcasts that Shaq knows.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: There's other people that are in Shaq's sphere that are like, hey, big bro, that's not a good look.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: And he has been silent.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: All right, he's not gonna reply to everybody.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: And again, if you if Shaq is big, if you replies to a podcast, it's just gonna grow that podcast.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: Him replying to me with my 100 followers is like it he it's not gonna do nothing for me, really.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: So, like, it's whatever.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: But my point is I'm waiting for the day for something in y'all community to matter, and one of the people that y'all fuck with goes to the dark side and tells y'all to eat a dick.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what Shaq just did.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: I I guess I didn't maybe maybe I'm disconnected.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: I didn't take it that way.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: That's fine, but it's gonna happen.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna happen.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh the alafoque is the Romeo Santos, the whoever.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: And I think, and I think that he's also taken, I don't want to call it not, I'm not shooting at Jay, but I think he's also taking the approach like Jay said on stage.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: Actually, Lo Voco did it with Trump.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: He he Yeah, but is Trump anti-y'all people?
43:18
SPEAKER_02: Is Trump a lot of Hispanic people voted for Trump?
43:21
SPEAKER_01: No, I know, I know, but it it is the general, right?
43:24
SPEAKER_01: Generally, people would be like, like he did that while that's not that wasn't the uh popular, you know, opinion.
43:31
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
43:32
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, black people in America has a historic issue with law enforcement.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: It's like a deep in our communities, it's a deep thing.
43:46
SPEAKER_02: And for Shaq, a person of his level, mind you, Shaq has been doing this his whole career.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: Nobody said anything to them.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: They just let him it was a joke.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: Cat Williams is a funny ass joke like yo, I'm not scared of Shaq being a uh a sheriff, I'll just turn into a basket if he ever tries to shoot me because he He can't shoot baskets.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: It's always just been a joke.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Now it's serious.
44:04
SPEAKER_02: And he was like, I got you.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: You got something?
44:08
SPEAKER_02: No, you got something.
44:12
SPEAKER_02: I freaking forgot.
44:14
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so with the with the FBI thing.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: Um the FBI was part of like freaking the death of Marlon Lutheran, Malcolm X.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: The Black Panthers.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Like directly responsible.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: I believe that, but we have to say allegedly.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: No.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, they literally killed Fred Hampton.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: That's not allegedly.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: That literally happened.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: They assassinated him.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: The FBI went into his house with his baby and his woman and shot the whole house up.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: I I agree that the US government is a gang.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: My thing is though, what do we exp what do we like, you know, you're saying that you saying that what do we um what do what do we want to do about one?
44:53
SPEAKER_01: What can we expect?
44:54
SPEAKER_01: One, Shaq, you can just not do that.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Like that's what I'm saying.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not even talking about just Shaq.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like, for example, you're just saying like Jay-Z approach.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: So I think Shaq is a I think Shaq's attitude is similar to Jay's attitude.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: Which was which is wrong, by the way.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: Which I've said is a capitalistic thing.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Jay-Z should approach things like that.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: Alright, but I don't think you came in and said that Jay-Z told our community to suck a dick.
45:17
SPEAKER_02: You like you didn't have the same thing.
45:19
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z got on stage.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's because Target's not killing black people.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: That's number one.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: And number two, uh, Jay-Z went on stage and said, Why are you mad at me for putting my shit in Target when there's other people doing the same thing?
45:30
SPEAKER_02: That's whataboutism, cool.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: But again, that's not the same level as the FBI has assassinated black leaders, and you're like, hey, we're cool with that.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: But I think that every literally 99% of the black community in somewhere somehow supports either a racist or a bigot or no, that that's true, but that's that's not even the black community, that's humans in general.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: But if I'm shag, what is the institution we're talking about?
45:53
SPEAKER_02: But if I'm shag, it's like, yeah, you're mad at me for putting my arm around Cash with Hub, but you also drive a Tesla.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but again, Tesla, the company, is not killing black people.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: No, but what I'm saying is the the people running.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: Did the guy not just do a Hill Hitler thing at the time?
46:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's cool, nigga.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: That's not directly affecting my community, though.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: It's it will.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: That guy don't care about your community.
46:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I think we're we're we're conflating.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying it could, is what I'm saying.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but this one is and has.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: That's the difference.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Target boycott is economics, right?
46:27
SPEAKER_02: FBI killing is literally in my neighborhood.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Police brutality is in my neighborhood.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: How many marches do we do because of this specific thing?
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we can't we cannot support the police for because most police is not bad.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not the argument.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: The argument is, hey, Shaq, cool, you have your arm around Cash Patel.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: Can you maybe tell him something about what's happening to us?
46:51
SPEAKER_02: Eat a dick.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: So then, no, so say that.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: Don't say that and say you're a fucking sellout.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: No, but you burning my jersey.
46:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, people are not being respectful.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: So I gotta be respectful to the coon.
47:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's because y'all don't have a coon in your in your culture.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: There's nothing there's no such thing as a Dominican sellout.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: Y'all don't have that.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: Because you guys probably haven't experienced that.
47:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because the whole DR is Dominican.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so there's no race war.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: No, there's not a race.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: Call somebody a coon is not a race.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's no like there's no sellout.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: There's no concept.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: Selling out would mean you're selling out to another race.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: That that's that's not what selling out is.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: Selling out is doing something against the your people, against your causes.
47:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but if you like bananas, actually l alpha.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: They they they they a lot of people in the industry think that he was um sellout, like on Puerto Rican's artist dick, basically.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: So you guys do understand that kind of closest we got to a sellout.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, but that's a guy.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: He's a sellout then, like, but but that's some people's opinion, and other people think actually that bro, like nah, he's just like he's uh strategically, you know, making business and making shit happen.
48:01
SPEAKER_02: I like Papa John's.
48:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that these are the reasons why they look at Shaq as a tell you.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: I like Geico.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: Is he Geico?
48:08
SPEAKER_02: I like Geico.
48:09
SPEAKER_02: The general.
48:11
SPEAKER_04: Yo, listen, I need my money.
48:13
SPEAKER_04: What's the song?
48:13
SPEAKER_04: My money on time.
48:14
SPEAKER_04: What's the general song?
48:15
SPEAKER_02: It's my money that I needed now.
48:16
SPEAKER_02: That's not the general nigga.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, no, I don't even know who that is.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: The Heatles.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: Hey, he fan.
48:23
SPEAKER_02: What does it have to do with Shaq?
48:24
SPEAKER_02: He he he won a ring.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: So come on, it's fucking sports.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: Yo, police brutality ring.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: Very, very, very controversial.
48:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, his fuck you comment?
48:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: Again, right?
48:42
SPEAKER_02: You look at people for the history of what they do.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: Jay is going to make money.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: We're past kneeling because I need to make money.
48:52
SPEAKER_02: Shaq is gonna be a shop.
48:53
SPEAKER_02: Shaq is gonna be with the cops.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: No matter how many black people are dying outside, Shaq is gonna be with the police.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: All I'm saying is when they ask Shaq, yo, Shaq, we need you right now.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's cool that you gave out turkeys, you gave out book bags.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: It's an analogy with the dad.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: It's cool that you was at all the sports games, it's cool that you pay all the bills, but there's a robber in the house and you just close the door and left.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Your family to deal with the robbers by yourself.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what we're asking Shaq to do.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: No, he went to call the police.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: No, he well, still, cool.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: He went to call the police versus family.
49:21
SPEAKER_02: They're in the living room with the robbery.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: But sure.
49:24
SPEAKER_02: Look, again, this is all about nuance, and I hear your perspective.
49:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't think there's anything wrong with Shaq wanting to be a cop.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: There's they should be more black cops.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: I think cops should actually be funded better.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: But wait, that's a good question.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Is being a cop selling out?
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Some people look at it that way.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
49:38
SPEAKER_02: So what would be this?
49:40
SPEAKER_02: Is it because he's famous and he's bringing too much light to it?
49:42
SPEAKER_02: No, it's just because what have you heard Shaq speak about police brutality ever?
49:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure.
49:49
SPEAKER_02: No, no, this is that's a yes or no question.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: It's either you've had heard him or not.
49:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I could have I could not remember.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: But okay, let's as of today I can't no, I don't know.
49:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you can't recall.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: But you can you can remember Shaq in a cop uniform like 20 times.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but that's the that's the concept.
50:02
SPEAKER_02: But imagery is.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: I honestly think this is a culture thing.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Imagery is a good thing.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: I think it's because you guys aren't black, you're not feeling the same thing.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: I think it's that.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: Honestly.
50:08
SPEAKER_02: That's why I tried to find something in your culture that you feel the same way about, but you guys probably don't have it.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Which is okay.
50:15
SPEAKER_02: Culture is culture.
50:16
SPEAKER_02: I think that's crazy that our the closest thing we have to a sellout is supporting a Puerto Rican.
50:20
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's actually a blessing, if you think about it.
50:24
SPEAKER_02: For us.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Or you guys don't think of things as selling out.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: It's just hey, that's part of it.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: It's okay to sell your people down the river.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: Because what is race, like what would do you the thing?
50:36
SPEAKER_02: Selling out is not a race thing.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: It's like this is selling out, this is selling out right now.
50:43
SPEAKER_02: Yo, um, we don't want to work for Adam 22.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Mike takes a check to go work for Adam 22.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: He sold out.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: He's like, fuck the podcast.
50:53
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
50:53
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you guys.
50:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm gonna go work for Adam 2.
50:56
SPEAKER_02: It's not a race thing.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why you're making it a race.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: But you're because you're saying he's sold out because it affects your people, your race.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: That Shaq is a part of.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so him going away.
51:05
SPEAKER_02: No, that specific thing is a race thing, but selling out as a whole thing is not a race thing.
51:10
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a moral thing.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Generally in America, it's you is usually applied when you No, that's not true at all.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: Some niggas look at selling out just as making it.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, but he's talking about I I get what he's saying.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: He's talking about like when people say, ah nigga, you're a sellout, like whatever.
51:24
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's kind of like referring to like like the people.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: The only reason, you could be a sellout.
51:30
SPEAKER_02: Romeo Santos, uh, if I'm not mistaken, he didn't claim DR for a little bit.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: Um there was a this maybe he didn't say uh maybe I'm thinking, but like I know there was an artist that didn't really.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: They think A-rod was a sellout for a long time.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: So he because he didn't claim Dominican, uh he didn't, he didn't really rep it.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: How did you feel about that?
51:51
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I don't care.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: And that's and that's okay.
51:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's a problem.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: Because there's a bunch of black people that's listening to this podcast right now that don't give a shit about Shaq and the FBI.
52:00
SPEAKER_02: They don't, but there's a lot of them that do, and that's the point.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: Is that hey, we're asking you to look out for us this one time, and you're like, nah, nigga, y'all broke.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: And that's his right.
52:10
SPEAKER_02: He's Shaq, he worked hard.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: Shaq wasn't gifted anything, the only thing he was gifted was his size, but there's a bunch of niggas like you, the 6'7, that didn't become Shaq.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, he still had to work hard.
52:23
SPEAKER_02: It's all good.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: Who we got?
52:25
SPEAKER_02: Ross.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: The boss or the beater.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm gonna let y'all take this one.
52:32
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
52:33
SPEAKER_02: This is a this is a tough topic.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: So that was a low.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: This is nasty.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: It's real, is it's really nasty.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: Um Rick Ross, funny enough, like people didn't even believe this relationship.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's a lot of clips of her not like avoiding kissing him and like weird stuff.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: They were calling it uh you know, like a she's like he's paying for it, like not a real relationship.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is why I would I would never be on the side of the niggas that say paying for pussy is more efficient than courting a woman.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because this is the exact example of that.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: If Rick Ross would have courted that woman and she just liked him, obviously liking him because of the fact that he can provide a really lavish lifestyle, but also liked him.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: Like I like what's Rick Ross' real name.
53:18
SPEAKER_02: Um Stephen William.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: I like William.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: William?
53:22
SPEAKER_02: Yes, William Roberts.
53:23
SPEAKER_02: I like William.
53:24
SPEAKER_02: They call me William Robins when I'm in the bank.
53:26
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: They just like the Dodgers when they come to Frank.
53:29
SPEAKER_02: He really is a Rick Ross fan.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: He is that's why this probably pains you a lot.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, um, I like William.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: I did meet him under the circumstances of he's a baller and all of that, but I do actually like him because I got to see who he is as a person because he courted me as opposed to I went to a party, I I cost 60,000, he has 60,000, and now I'm his girlfriend.
53:48
SPEAKER_02: I met Rick Ross.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, um, his girlfriend, uh, what's her name?
53:54
SPEAKER_02: Jasmine Kendrick.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, fuck another Kendrick.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Another Kendrick.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can't trust him, Kendrick's.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: I think you can actually.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: They're very accurate.
54:01
SPEAKER_02: He probably dated homie.
54:03
SPEAKER_02: Kendrick probably did him?
54:05
SPEAKER_02: Did this?
54:06
SPEAKER_02: Because his last name is Kendrick, right?
54:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, hey.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, she posted pictures, busted lip.
54:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, she said Shaq.
54:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean Shaq.
54:15
SPEAKER_02: No, no, Shaq.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: No, she should have called Shaq.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Damn! That's what she should have.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: She should have called Shaq would have told her, get out of that little ass apartment, come with Shaq.
54:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, get out of the apartment, come over here.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:27
SPEAKER_02: That's a good Shaq impression.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: Allegedly, Rick Ross uh put his hands on her.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, Mike says that this he heard that it could have been old and she reposted these.
54:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
54:37
SPEAKER_01: I I I uh I read somebody post that um that nah this could have been something that already happened, and she kind of like the post say it could have been or it is something.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: No, that it is.
54:48
SPEAKER_01: Like it she was basically saying they were basically saying like like nah this happened.
54:54
SPEAKER_01: You ate that, you really not mad long ago, but like probably, you know, whatever.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: Because the relationship itself is not old, right?
54:59
SPEAKER_01: If to my understanding.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: About a year and change.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you ate this, and then now you're getting dropped.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: Like he basically he's dropping you, and like now you wanna, you know, do damage.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: That was, you know, allegedly.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which doesn't change the fact that he still busted her lip.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: You know?
55:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, why why didn't she call the police?
55:19
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't she?
55:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh she would have definitely got they would have been on her side.
55:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't so why I don't know.
55:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: And why are you saying instead of posting it?
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: What is the internet gonna do for you?
55:31
SPEAKER_02: Kill his career.
55:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, try.
55:33
SPEAKER_02: So that's more important than you know, retribution for the assault?
55:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's where it gets into like well, maybe she can't.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: Like you won't faint type of thing.
55:40
SPEAKER_02: As soon as it happened.
55:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe that leans to Mike's thing, where it's like, you probably ate it.
55:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, both sides are nasty.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, don't put your hand on women.
55:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, but also as a woman, um, don't post it on social media.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: Because what what are you gaining from this?
55:53
SPEAKER_02: That that's where it gets tricky.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: There's no justice.
55:55
SPEAKER_02: Because social media doesn't give a fuck.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: She has she has something to gain from this.
55:58
SPEAKER_02: Like what?
55:59
SPEAKER_02: Number one, popularity.
56:01
SPEAKER_02: Like I never actually knew her name.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that's nasty though.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's nasty.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay, this is a moral thing.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: Morally is like every time we have these conversations with you, you feel that we're talking morally.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: Wait, but so we're so you're not we're outing women beaters.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, by calling the cops.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: Cool, but let's say that's I I f for whatever reason, love, whatever reason forfeited that option.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't have the right to like blast.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, you have the right to do whatever you want.
56:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, the right, but it's wrong for me to blast.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: I would need to know my question is gonna be why?
56:35
SPEAKER_01: Because for me at least if you're doing that, you know, make it make sure it happens after you call the cops and handle that.
56:46
SPEAKER_01: And then like you you could go and like so she'd gonna be a story no matter when, you know.
56:50
SPEAKER_02: No, if she did call the cops, I still don't see the point of posting on social media.
56:53
SPEAKER_02: I know why she's doing it.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: Again, for nasty reasons, but no.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm looking at it from the perspective of this.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: If this happened to your sister, well, most likely.
57:01
SPEAKER_02: How would you how would you how would you tell your sister to traverse?
57:04
SPEAKER_02: I would tell her to call the cops, but if she did it, and this and she was dating A-Rod, okay, I could see a bag coming from the So it's a monetary.
57:13
SPEAKER_01: It's not justice.
57:14
SPEAKER_01: That's bad then.
57:15
SPEAKER_01: Huh?
57:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's about money, it's not about justice.
57:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, civil penalties is justice.
57:18
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, hold on.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: You could sue somebody for money.
57:20
SPEAKER_02: But this girl's not suing him.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: Your sister's not suing him.
57:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying, but what I'm saying is that I could see a bag coming from this.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's a monetary thing, it's not a justice thing.
57:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because why are you not ready?
57:30
SPEAKER_01: Why are you not putting uh uh your ex that was a nobody, also?
57:33
SPEAKER_01: He said he said if he's famous, he can't do it.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got it a caveat.
57:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because why would I if my sister posted her man now?
57:40
SPEAKER_02: Well what there's no gain in that.
57:42
SPEAKER_02: So it has to it's exactly so it's not the same page.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's doing she's doing it for gain.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is nasty.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
57:50
SPEAKER_02: That's where you disagree.
57:52
SPEAKER_02: Your moral integrity tells you that this is fair game.
57:54
SPEAKER_02: My moral integrity tells me that this is nasty.
57:56
SPEAKER_02: I understand what he's talking about.
57:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sympathizing with the with him.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sympathizing with anybody.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not a big thing.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: You're talking about morality.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's uh it's just morality.
58:05
SPEAKER_01: But again, I understand.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: I you know, that's just I think you could do both.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: I think you could out.
58:10
SPEAKER_02: So is any type of outing You could do both.
58:14
SPEAKER_02: Let's say he wasn't a beater, let's say he was just a serial cheater.
58:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's nasty too.
58:17
SPEAKER_02: What I'm my question is gonna be the same.
58:19
SPEAKER_02: Why are you posting this?
58:20
SPEAKER_02: Because of attention, huh?
58:22
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not attention.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: Everything has I could want to hurt him and get gain something out of it.
58:28
SPEAKER_02: Then the gain something out of it is nasty.
58:30
SPEAKER_02: Because maybe I would maybe I ate it, like you said, because I thought it was gonna be a relationship, I was doing it for us, whatever the case is.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: Now you're dumping me two months later because the relationship is not long, so it's not like this happened years ago.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: This happened within I I think this happened this year, at least.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
58:45
SPEAKER_02: So I ate it, and now you're dumping me.
58:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, nah, I didn't eat that for no reason.
58:51
SPEAKER_02: So well, if you're in a relationship for monetary gain, then that's also nasty.
58:55
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm saying I'm I ate it because I thought this was gonna like.
58:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and now it didn't pass, it didn't, it didn't last, so that's it.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: Move on now though.
59:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm not, I'm yeah, this is kind of like like in a man's version of this, it's kind of like a social standard.
59:10
SPEAKER_02: I think women could get this off, but we can't.
59:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: So that's what I'm putting the card where I'm not, I don't think it's nasty that she's doing it.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: It's nasty if we did it.
59:19
SPEAKER_02: It's nasty if anybody does it.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, for us, uh what I was gonna say was our our version of that would be like like like dirty money, like drug money, whatever.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: I like like you see how drug money is looked at, like not morally, like for example, I for example, personally pride myself on like, yo, like everything I got, like I haven't had to do anything bad.
59:37
SPEAKER_01: That is a moral thing.
59:39
SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
59:39
SPEAKER_01: So what I'm saying is the person that got it, but I know it's like, yo, nah, I know AG, like you know, he used to sell weed and draw.
59:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna judge playing the lottery gambling, yeah.
59:51
SPEAKER_02: So you don't respect the guy who won the lottery gambling?
59:54
SPEAKER_02: The difference with the lottery is we all have the same skills.
59:57
SPEAKER_01: No, but I would still want to be the guy that won it.
59:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we all have the same skills, yeah.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: But I'm saying you wouldn't you wouldn't respect his bag any less because he won it.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, I will say this it's about his character.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: I would say this the dude that wins the lottery, if he tried to flex on me, I would it would be very easy for me to dispatch it.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm 100% flexing.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but then I can dispatch it.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_01: This is by the way, this is because exactly finish your thought.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: Go on.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_01: This and by the way, this is exactly why a queen can build a king.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: Because cannot build the king.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_01: Like, if Oprah dated me right now, and like even though I yo, you know, we've been together 10 years, and it's known to the world that I manage the money and this and that.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, when I sit along alongside the captains and that actually build themselves, right?
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: When I go to the Jabezos and the Trumps, you're a little boy though.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I can't, and they talking about, let's say, money and business, and how did they, you know, yo, how did you that Tesla cabin car?
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: How did you make that up?
1:00:57
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I can't budge with like an idea, like, yo, why don't you do this?
1:01:00
SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna, bro, like they perfect scene.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: I have a scene with this, by the way.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: You see when in the Titanic, this is crazy.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_01: It's funny how I I thought about this one day.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: You see how in the scene the Titanic, when Jack saves the uh Rose, right?
1:01:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, they take him to dinner, the husband's like, yo, you know, like come hang out with us, you know, as a as a pay, like, you know, so you could have a good night tonight, right?
1:01:23
SPEAKER_01: Overpaying.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_01: So you see, there's a moment in the movie where it's like the rich man, he gets up, he's like, I, you know, um he walks up to Jack and says, All right, like, you know, I'm gonna go over there with a big dog, and you know, you could, you know, have fun, whatever, this and that, we're gonna, you know, like it's not like you wouldn't want to be there.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_01: It's boring for you.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_01: Like, we won't talk about business and numbers.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, he was really shitting on him, you know.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_01: But again, that shows to you, but he was dressed.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_01: Jack was dressed like that part.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: He looked, but he can't play the part.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: That's why he's like, yo, you almost look like one of us.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, but it it the respect thing wasn't there.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm confused.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_01: Now Tyreak.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is the same way that that was a group, he was the guy was rich in the movie.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: And he was leaving with his millionaires to this room to talk, you know, light up cigars and talk, do rich shit.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'm saying that gesture shows right there in the movie that, you know, like lack of respect.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, you guys it's a class, like, no, you're not gonna all money ain't good.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_02: Money, old money, new money, and like the nigga that wins the lottery is not, he could have the same network as uh Elon Musk, but they can never, he can never join that class because of how he made his money.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: Now, if he took that money that he got from the lottery and then became an investor and then built his profile, yeah, that's different.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_02: That's different.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_02: And then there's still some rooms that are gonna look at him like we're old money.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: You know why?
1:02:43
SPEAKER_01: Because you weren't Steve Jobs in the garage room, you know, 30 years, 40 years ago.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_02: I agree with everything you're saying.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how we but how how we got here from how he got the money.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_02: What I'm the reason I brought up gambling was if sh people look at gambling as nasty.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_02: So if she got it, if she gets her fortune by this, Kim Kardashian got her fortune by doing something nasty.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_02: If I get it by doing something nasty, which is gambling, why is it why uh would you look at would you look at her becoming a millionaire just as nasty as me, because I gambled?
1:03:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: The same way some people there is this a part of society that, for example, don't respect Kim.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: I understand.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: So, you know it it's uh it's a respect thing.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Like it's personally, the M the NBA does.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: Personally, I don't care.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_02: You don't care about what like at the end of the day, get your money, but it's to me is when the flexing starts.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: Is if you come to come flex on, I'm not bothering you.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_02: You just we just happen to be in the same place and you want some like I got this Rolex, I got this, I got this.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be able to kind of chop your tree down.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: Cause nigga, you you hit you put you what you want a lot of.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_02: But it's like flexing, that's like going into the NBA.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: That's not a lottery.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: Is it not?
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: No, no, you earn that's a skill thing, yeah.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: But you don't think yeah, but that's not all it is.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: But there's some work behind the city.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_02: But there's at least work connections and this and that.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but at least you can say there's a percentage of that that was just skill based.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: No matter how you want to cut it, I had to go and dribble and all of the NBA players went through that.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everybody.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: It's not like a percentage of this was I had to be the one Rick Ross chose.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_02: Rick Ross, there's a bunch of bad bitches throwing them those.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_02: It's not the same thing.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but that that's why, yeah, that's that's why it's easier for him to replace her than her to replace him.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes, especially when you're Rick Ross.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is that all right, I I I get what you're saying.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_02: It is it is nasty in in a in a way, but I'm not quote unquote mad at it.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: How does this affect Ross's career?
1:04:42
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna tell you right now it's not.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_02: It is not.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_02: But you know what if what would have affected his career if she went through litigation.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I agree with that.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_02: Also her rollout.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_02: Was litigation?
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: She took it to the courts.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: But also her rollout.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_02: This just posting the pics and Rock Rose hit me.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_02: You're she's not big enough for this.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_02: No, but you did you not see what happened to the game?
1:05:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, there's a reason why there was like kind of like seven years we weren't talking about the game?
1:05:08
SPEAKER_02: Because a woman did litigation.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_02: She went to the police and said that he did what he did to her and he had to come up with an absorbent amount of money.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_02: Like seven or thirteen.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_02: It was some kind of millions of dollars that people don't have liquid.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_02: And I'll and we did not hear from the game for a long time.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_02: And that's when the game's manager became a household name, and the game is now.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree with that.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, once you don't do litigation, now you have to like, you know.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_02: No, you just leave.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_02: Figure it out.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Again, but again, you're living a lifestyle now.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_02: Rick Rose put you.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_02: Go to that man's fault.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Don't talk to your parents.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: I think this only this is the man's fault.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: It's always the man's fault.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_01: It's always the fault.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_02: Put his hand on the woman.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_02: And he elevated her.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_02: Shouldn't have done that either.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_02: Especially if she's scrupulous.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: And she wasn't even kissing you on camera.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that should have again that, bro.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: But this is why I can't pay for it.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm just not built that way.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but this is.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: You're not supposed to pay for a girlfriend.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: You're just supposed to pay for a prostitute.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: Who said?
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: Saying, I I agree with you in not paying for a girlfriend.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't think they're talking about when you're paying for a girlfriend.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_02: I think they're talking about when you're paying for a prostitute.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm not willing to pay for any interaction with a woman, period.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_02: That that's not I'm just not built like that.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_02: Because it's transactional.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh it is levels.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_02: Like if I'm if I'm a million dollars up and I'm and I'm renting a yacht in Miami, I might pay bitches to just be on the yacht.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: That's not what I'm talking about, though.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: But I might end up fucking them with the bigger.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but did you pay for the vagina though?
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I wouldn't even do that.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you would.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: Because where are you gonna find 30 bad men?
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: You can't tell a nigga that he would do that.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: Wait, if you hit the lotto right now, where are you gonna find 30 Lori Harveys or 30 Jasmine Kennedy?
1:06:40
SPEAKER_01: I know, but look at the guy you're describing.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: That are just gonna get on a boat with you?
1:06:43
SPEAKER_01: No, that's what I'm saying is look at what you just said.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm the guy that won the lotto.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_01: So it's like it correlates.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna pay because I'm a nobody.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_01: That's what I said.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_01: When you build yourself, no, what I'm you're missing the point.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is Brown could do that.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_01: When you have to build yourself, it's like, yeah, like I'm Chris.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm you know, you're already gonna.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_01: You know, of course if you're famous, that's what I'm saying.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_01: But you already kind of know people.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_01: You don't gotta be famous.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, you probably like if you're famous, you you don't need the money.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_01: Like you don't have to pay for Like Ray J could be like, yo, call a promoter, yo, get a few free.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: Even in your analogy, you still didn't pay to fuck that girl.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_02: She's fucking because yo, this guy is rich and he's somebody.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_02: And I want to have sex with him.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: I I I slightly disagree.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_02: If I pay you 20 grand or 10 grand to come to this boat party, yes.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: And it's a boat party, so there's let's say it's a hundred people on the boat.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm bro.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_02: If I really if I just put 10 grand in your pocket for four hours of just being a bad girl on the boat.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I am human instant humans, I can see humans or a girl being like, No, Mike, you good?
1:07:54
SPEAKER_04: This guy's doing a lot of it.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_04: I can see I I can see the girl that you just.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_02: I just I can see the girl you gave 10 bands for four hours being like, if you shot at her, she'll be way more willing.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's like a social lubrication.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_02: That's the same thing as a guy buying drinks at the bar.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, just on a smaller scale.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: No, that'll be that'll be like, no.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_02: The guy who's buying you a$20 drink at the bar is not the same.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_02: It's just a smaller scale.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_02: I missed that.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_02: I missed that.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_02: Hold up, run it back.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_02: He said that I'm telling him that the girl that you just gave 10 bands to to be on this boat, that you kind of are in a way paying for it.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_02: Because if you wanted it, she most likely will give it to you because you already put the 10 bands.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm just the guy, the girl you bought a drink or two to, it's not gonna be like, ah, you bought me a drink or two.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: I might.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: That's not what I'm you're misinterpreting what I'm saying.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying that there's this these things called social lubrication.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: If you walk into a bar, you look see a nice girl and be like, oh, hey, let's fuck.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_02: Nine times out of ten, she's gonna be like, what?
1:08:57
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_02: Duh.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_02: If you go on a boat, that might be a charge too.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_02: If if you rent out a yacht, you park it up in front of a club, and you say, hey, all you bitches come on this boat, I'm trying to fuck.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_02: They're mostly gonna say no.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:09:09
SPEAKER_02: We're we agree.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_02: Now there's this thing called social lubrication, which is normally in the form of money.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_02: If you go to the bar, you see a nice girl, hey, let me buy your drink.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_02: And then throughout the night, you buy a couple of drinks, and then you say, Hey, you want to get out of here and have sex with me?
1:09:24
SPEAKER_02: You have a higher chance of her saying yes.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_02: You agree?
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_02: If I pull up in my yacht and there's 30 bad bitches there, and I'm like, yo, y'all want to come party?
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: 10,000 each, right?
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: You want to get a combo.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_02: 10,000 to come party with me.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'll pay y'all to come on my boat and hang out.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_02: And then throughout the night, you see one of them that you find attractive, and you're like, hey, you you want to come to my private room and have sex?
1:09:43
SPEAKER_02: There's a higher chance she says yes, right?
1:09:45
SPEAKER_02: It's a but um the hire is way higher.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's just a that's just a uh a money.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: No, because you said it that's the same as buying a drink at the bar.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: The act is.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: Most of the time at the bar you're gonna get dubbed.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a skill issue, nigga.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_02: She gave you money.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: If you buy one or two drinks, that's not gonna get you pussy that night.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what type of places you be in.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_02: But I'm trying to do that.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not trying to do anything.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_02: That get can get it done for most dudes.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_02: When you buy a girl two drinks at the bar, it's not a majority though.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: It's not the majority on the game.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm saying, I agree with him.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_01: It's not a majority, but it does happen.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: 100% Let me finish what you say.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_01: It does happen what?
1:10:19
SPEAKER_01: Pretty frequently.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: That's all I'm saying.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_01: But he's he's saying to the majority.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm saying that's why I get what he's saying.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm not telling niggas that have no game to go outside and do this.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_02: That's not what I'm saying.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying that if you advised if you I'm not saying you won't get it later, maybe a day or two, but that night off two drinks, I don't think that's gonna get it done.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_02: It happens pretty frequently.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_02: It does.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but it doesn't happen most of the time.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is most of the time, if you give a girl 10 grand to come party on the boat for three hours, you might get to hit most of the time.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_02: But you're comparing, you're saying that that guy's paying for pussy.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm not.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_02: That's the difference between you and I.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: I disagree.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think you're inadvertently paying for it.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: But the argument for niggas that pay for pussy is you inadvertently pay for pussy with everything.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: That's why I don't like that argument with that, too.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: And you're but you're making that argument.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: Shame.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: I do I do think you you somehow, because if you bro, eventually if you don't got it, she's not gonna keep it.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_02: So then why don't you just go pay for pussy then?
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: Why do you well because the part of the man is to provide, so yeah, you do have to can that is your contribution as a man.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: Listen, all I again, I think what we need to do in this podcast is get a guy that pays for pussy.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, we've been telling you that for like forever.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_02: You've been telling me that?
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what the double standard is about.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: Okay, no problem.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh so Ross don't hit women.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Ross Ross is cooked.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_02: So if you pay for pussy, you know, shoot a DM and I want a nigga that openly pays for box to come up here and debate us.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, not a debate.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have a discussion.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: But what's the debate?
1:11:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, what would you ask them?
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: I want to know how, like, like how you feel afterwards.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_02: That's my first question.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: It's usually trash.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_02: You're telling yourself.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_04: No, I mean, I'm I mean, I don't know.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_04: I don't think learning to be a good thing.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: I do as well.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think so.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_02: I've never done it.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_02: I've never done it in a place where I speak the language.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_02: All I know is if I would if I was a pussy buying person, I would never even admit to it.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_02: That's how lowbrow I think it is.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_01: I actually got a story with that too.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: Which you're not gonna tell us?
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: I think I am.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, finally.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_02: Mike's about to tell us a story.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_02: No, no, but it's quick, it's quick, it's quick and short.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_02: We got we got him, we got him.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_02: You don't be telling us stories.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_01: It's not really a story, it's more like I'm gonna just say a story.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm gonna just say it, but one time um I'm in the yard, this is probably like nine years ago.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, a while ago.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm in the yard and I'm with my brother, and I accidentally, not accidentally, but I kind of caught up, got caught up in a hot.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_01: He paid for box and I was driving him.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_01: So he's like, yo, take me to the hotel and um you gonna pick me up after.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_01: So I pulled up, you know, dropped him off.
1:13:09
SPEAKER_01: When we get there though, the plans changed.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_01: He's like, yo, nah, nah, nah, nigga, wait for me because I'm gonna be quick, 30 minutes.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_01: So he did his thing, I'm in the car.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_01: I I felt weird too.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, damn, I'm like just chilling here.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_01: Um but long story short, the only way, because I'm thinking, I'm like, damn, have I, have I, have I, have I?
1:13:28
SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, well, technically I didn't, but that day, my brother did come down, like, yo, taxi, like, yo, I'm gonna go.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_01: I've heard the story.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_01: No, not no, no, no.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_01: He paid for one man, but you know, he was like, yo, I talked to her, this and that.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, bro, nah, you wild.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_01: She was gonna do it for free.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't what's the problem there?
1:13:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh what's the problem?
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: No, there's no problem, but I'm just thinking, I'm like, have I ever, have I ever?
1:13:52
SPEAKER_01: I was it was just more like a big thing.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_01: So I'm making the story.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: So technically I didn't pay for box.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_01: No, not technically, you literally did it.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, yeah, literally, I didn't pay for box.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_01: But, you know, I got a freebie.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I've heard stories of niggas that, oh, I didn't pay for pussy, my man's did though.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I she pulled up, he he fucked her, and then he was like, Yeah, I I pay for you too.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_02: Not not my most uh brightest moments.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: And that doesn't mean that you don't qualify that as painful.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: No, me personally, the only way I would have felt comfortable doing that is if the girl was just like, oh, I saw him and I liked him, and I I'm already fucking.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_02: So you wouldn't pay, you wouldn't take the girl your man.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_02: No, hell no.
1:14:28
SPEAKER_02: So that's painful pussy.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: If you No, no, no, I would but I also wouldn't say I but he I wouldn't say he paid.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_04: But if you No, he didn't pay, but you only smashed because someone paid.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but that's I would not say that dude paid for pussy though.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't do it because it's a little semantical.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: It is semantical for sure.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: But I I wouldn't have I wouldn't have participated unless the I knew that the girl was into me.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: If I had a if I for example, Asian, whatever the case is, if I have a fantasy or a thing I want to fulfill and I'm in Japan or I'm in um Brazil and this and that, and I can't even communicate with the girl.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nigga.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: But I still want to smash a Japanese girl, smash a Brazilian, whatever the case is, I don't think it's I don't frown upon if somebody wants to.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_02: I do pay for that just to have that experience.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_02: I do, because if you got enough game, it's it the world is your oyster.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: I think niggas that pay for it don't got no game.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: Personally.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_02: I personally disagree.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_02: How would you do it?
1:15:23
SPEAKER_02: Like your sign.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, like I would, yo, bro, you speak you you you speak Spanish.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_02: And that's all, but you what I'm saying is, but let's say you don't have that option.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, you are in a country.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: We in the we in the in this gen in this day and age, there is too many translation apps.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_02: There's too many.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I ain't gonna lie.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_01: I went to Brazil.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_01: Another story.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_01: I went to Brazil and I definitely backed the Brazilian's uh number through the Apple translator.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_01: Translator.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_01: I was in there game world international.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_01: Bro, yes.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: Did you smash?
1:15:57
SPEAKER_02: I did not.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_02: I did not.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I'm saying.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_02: If you're trying to smash, you might need to speed up this process.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_02: Get your game better.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: Because again, now you may not be familiar with this as much, but let's not act like you're not American.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_02: It does not act like the number.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_02: Why would I not be familiar with that?
1:16:11
SPEAKER_02: You don't think I travel?
1:16:12
SPEAKER_02: I travel.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying, but people, you're not in all right, cool, fine, whatever.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is a lot of these girls abroad are gonna take a number because you may take them to America.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_02: And that's part of my game.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_01: Nah, but for me, that's game shit.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_02: That's game?
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Your passport is gain?
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the nigga that goes to the gym and works out and gets brawling is is not gay.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not game.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: The nigga that drives a Porsche ain't game?
1:16:33
SPEAKER_02: No, you if you just The nigga that got money that could buy the whole bar for everybody is not gay.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: If you only smash because she liked your car, no, you don't got game.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_02: That's game?
1:16:41
SPEAKER_02: Everybody does it.
1:16:42
SPEAKER_02: But she's smashing that got money.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you don't know.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_02: With niggas fucking girls because they're rich.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_02: That's not my debate.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: If she's only fucking you because here's$50.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_02: So if I wave a Porsche or if I wave$100, what's the difference?
1:16:55
SPEAKER_02: Because if you wave a Porsche, she has to get inside your vehicle and then you have to coerce her into having sex with you.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_02: When you give a girl.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_02: If you give a girl$100, what's the work?
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is if she's only fucking you because she I don't care why the bitches You care why girls are fucking you?
1:17:12
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is then why do you care if I pay?
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: That's why.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't care if you pay.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm not paying for you.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_02: But you said that's how low brow.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_02: To me, to me.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_02: How I look at myself.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_02: If y'all niggas want to pay, God bless y'all.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_02: And again, there's really good arguments.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_02: Do you look at paying for a lab dance as low bro?
1:17:29
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Do you not see what I'm saying?
1:17:32
SPEAKER_02: No, that's a that's a strip.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't pay when I go to strip club, I don't pay for lab dances.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_02: So throwing money is not paying for the lab dance?
1:17:37
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I don't, no, no, that's not paying for lap dance.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, not not if you throw a significant.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't there's nothing wrong with it.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_02: I just don't do that.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_02: If you throw enough, she's coming to give you a lap.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_02: I get lap dances in the strip club all the time.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't pay for them, though.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_02: Because you threw enough.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_02: Because I have a relationship with these stripers.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, you're adding things.
1:17:55
SPEAKER_04: What I'm saying is if you're just in a place where you don't have a relationship with you.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you have to spend money.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_02: You have to throw enough where she's gonna come give you a lap dance.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_02: You paid for the lap dance.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but let you be a dude that has no game.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_02: She's gonna charge you for that lap dance, though.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_02: I've seen it myself.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_02: A nigga will spend$200 on stage, a girl will come off the stage, dance on him, and be like, hey, that's$50.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_02: I've seen it myself.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying if I if all my life Damn.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've seen it myself.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm a strip club nigga.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: I go to strip club all the time.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_02: I've been to one strip club.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_02: I think we already told you the story.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_02: And if you got game, you could get out of that.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: But isn't that what I just said?
1:18:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying get out of the 50s.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's what I just said.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, you're right.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is, I just know if I've had a fantasy for all these years, and I go to a place go get it out the mud, nigga.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_02: And I go to a place that I'm probably never gonna come back to.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_02: Go get it out of the mud.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm probably not gonna pay thousands of dollars to go to Bali or whatever you can.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_02: Go get it out the mud.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's that crazy to just pay for it.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_02: No, but again, that's cool.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_02: What about paying for a threesome?
1:18:53
SPEAKER_02: Why?
1:18:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, see, bro, you gotta pay for it.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, some of you just gotta pay for it.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_02: I've I've experienced everything you're talking about.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_02: I have experienced it.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_02: I've never had to shut up.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_02: Now, did I have to pay for a fit?
1:19:03
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_02: Did I have to pay for a haircut?
1:19:05
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_02: Did I have to buy a drink?
1:19:07
SPEAKER_01: What if you're courting and you obviously like spending bread?
1:19:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got yeah.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_02: I think that's part of the game.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_02: There's a game that we're all playing.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_02: The girls are participating too.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_02: The girls are like, hey, that guy's broke.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_02: Well, if I if I buy, oh all right, we're going to.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's what I'm saying.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_02: I want a guy that buys pussy to come and debate this because they do have some good arguments.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_02: Like I hear niggas say it all the time.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_02: The money that you spend getting fly.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_02: You're talking to one.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't heard that.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: If I go around buying vagina, no, but you're not the nigga I'm talking to then.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_02: The nigga I'm talking to, he prefers to buy pussy because he don't want to deal with nothing.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I don't, I'm I'm wearing sweatpants, I'm wearing sweatshirts, I gotta spend it.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: I paid him to leave.
1:19:41
SPEAKER_02: I pay them to leave.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_02: I've heard all of this.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_02: When I when I when y'all niggas go out and spend the money on bottles, I'm in my crib getting my dick sucked by the same girl that's in your section because I paid her to.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_02: And I don't gotta get dressed.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't even gotta shower.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_01: I think I I like the hunting process.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_02: First of all, you're not even paying her to leave because you gotta pay first.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_02: That's one.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_02: I never participated for it.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_02: No, I know, but that's the thing.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, like you're she already you already paid her before you put it in.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that payment is.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, like, yo, you know, I paid him to leave.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nah.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_02: And those arguments are fair arguments because a nigga's gonna tell you, yo, bro, you went outside last week, you you spent a thousand dollars on bottles, you talked to a girl for six hours, four hours, three hours, however long y'all was in the club, and then I paid her a hundred dollars to come suck my dick and leave.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_02: And you spent a thousand dollars at her bar.
1:20:22
SPEAKER_02: Who who really lost?
1:20:23
SPEAKER_02: Sucker.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_02: And cool, those niggas, they got that argument, but I have some counterpunches.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_02: I hear you, I hear you.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shout out to the niggas that you know get it off the hustle, man.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: Talking about putting things on tour.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_02: Um so Tory Lanez announced a tour.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_02: From what I understand, Tory Lanez is in jail.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_02: This is called the no Tory tour.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_02: If I'm not mistaken, genius marketing, by the way.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_02: Yo, Tori, I gotta give it to him, bro.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_02: He's he's relentless.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_02: He's dropped, I want to say, at least four projects from jail.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_02: He's a beast.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_02: He's just he's not letting up.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_02: You know?
1:21:05
SPEAKER_02: Is it is it um is it impacting though?
1:21:08
SPEAKER_02: Is the music making any noise?
1:21:10
SPEAKER_02: Is the music charting?
1:21:11
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_02: And this this tour will be a very good barometer for how much the all of the shit he's doing matters.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because if this tour doesn't sell, then all that shit you praising him for doesn't mean anything.
1:21:24
SPEAKER_02: I guess it doesn't mean I think it means a lot to his fans.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_02: Now, is he getting new fans?
1:21:30
SPEAKER_02: No, but I think it's helping him keep the fans.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
1:21:33
SPEAKER_02: This tour would show us if that's true.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, people are not gonna pop out to a tour where he's not at, you know what I'm saying?
1:21:38
SPEAKER_02: But this is the genius part.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_02: This is the genius part is that uh Bobby Schmerder was performing at the tour.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_02: A boogie was at the tour performing at the no Tory tour.
1:21:48
SPEAKER_02: So he has people Oh, so it already started.
1:21:51
SPEAKER_02: I saw I saw one show.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_02: Is it doing well?
1:21:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what well is, I don't think it's on Ticketmaster.
1:21:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's I don't think it's one of those things.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's it's like.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm just thinking, I think it's it's just a marketing thing.
1:22:00
SPEAKER_02: And I think the fact that he has a A-Boogie to who's who I'm really waiting for an album, like A Boogie.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_02: What is it?
1:22:06
SPEAKER_02: A Boogie that needs a look, yeah.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_02: A Boogie needs a look.
1:22:10
SPEAKER_02: And this is the look?
1:22:10
SPEAKER_02: The no Tory tour?
1:22:11
SPEAKER_02: Needs a look.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, please.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_02: A Boogie does not need a look.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay when when A when A Boogie drops, people are waiting for an A-Bogie.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I'm not disagreeing with that, but we also have to roll these things out.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_02: So the look that he needs is supporting the guy who shot a woman?
1:22:26
SPEAKER_02: No, the the the look that he needs is performing somewhere, just like Bobby Sprater.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: He does not need the no.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm giving you my perspective on my.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_02: But they also would help him to perform anywhere.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_02: This is what this jungle does.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_02: The same thing Bobby Smurter does.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Bobby Schmerder may need the look.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but A-Boogie does not need this look.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_02: I I I no, I can be wrong.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_02: Because I don't even think A-Bogie, because A Boogie's not dropping.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: He could have been it's not like he's been dropping, it hasn't been hitting, so now I need a look because my shit's not hitting.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_02: His shit, the though he dropped two singles last uh this year and it and it did what?
1:22:58
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't a hit.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_02: But but I liked it.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_02: They sounded good.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_02: This is the problem, Charlie.
1:23:04
SPEAKER_02: Just because I like it and you like it, it doesn't matter.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: It has to I don't mean that's the point I'm trying to make with this story.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_02: I think I think he supported Sory.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he need he did it for a look.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't think this look is positive for him.
1:23:18
SPEAKER_02: I'll be living in an era.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_02: Remember, women are women are the ones behind the top.
1:23:21
SPEAKER_02: But before this topic, when was the last time we spoke about A-Boogie?
1:23:26
SPEAKER_02: He hasn't he's been quiet.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_02: He just told me he dropped two songs.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_02: Two songs, but that we as podcasters did not come on here and talk about.
1:23:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I mean, it wasn't that what I'm saying is that he's been quiet by choice.
1:23:40
SPEAKER_02: I it's not because his computer is nobody is quiet by choice in this industry, brother.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_02: We just spoke about Neo like three weeks ago about how he was being blackballed.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_02: And I try to tell you that he's not being blackback.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't think A-Bogie's in that situation.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's I'm all I'm saying is the fact that we're talking about A-Boogie right now, as new we're New Yorkers, by the way.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_02: And we have not spoken about him until this time.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't think any publicist is like, yo, A-Boogie, this is a good look.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_02: I think that A-Boogie's like, hey, I got a call from Tory and I can kill two birds in one stone.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_02: My name is out there in the site, guys, and I get to support my man.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm saying.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_02: Alright, I guess.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, I I I just think it's genius marketing.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_02: Um I do agree with that.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_02: Tori, Tori is not letting up, and I just like it.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_02: He's he's maintaining his innocence.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_02: Um Do you believe Tori?
1:24:24
SPEAKER_02: No, I told you that.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_02: You do believe he shot her?
1:24:26
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so I believe him.
1:24:29
SPEAKER_02: You believe he did not shoot her.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_02: Who you believe, I don't know if you followed him.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I haven't followed it, you know.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_02: So she shot herself.
1:24:36
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not what he said.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm asking.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't believe that he intentionally wanted to shoot her.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:44
unknown: Yeah.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, so um that's possible.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_02: I believe anything is possible.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't there.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_02: I just believe what you know.
1:24:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think Shorty shot her.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_02: They tried to flip that phone call.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_02: I think he was apologizing.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_02: Because the he he was smashing Tori and her best friend at the same time.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_02: And he tried to get Kylie that same night.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: And he tried to he grieved.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_02: He was aware.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_02: He tried to get who?
1:25:02
SPEAKER_02: Kylie.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_02: Kylie Jenner.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: She was ghettable.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't blame her.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_02: Why do people leave that out of the story?
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: That Kylie was gettable.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Travis Scott.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_02: She's I mean, Kylie is gettable.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_02: No, but we don't talk about her like that.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_02: I noticed that.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_02: No, people call Meg all type of hoes and shit, but yeah, but Kylie don't move like a hoe.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_02: Like you can Really.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_02: How does one move like a hoe?
1:25:27
SPEAKER_02: You can you can you can't count how many boyfriends she's had.
1:25:30
SPEAKER_02: It's like one or two.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_02: Like it's Travis, is the is she's with Timely Chameley, which is a big upgrade.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_02: And then like maybe Tori, but that's she never spoke on that.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_02: That's Meg and that's Meg's side of the story.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_02: But we don't know that Tori uh uh Kylie was actually gonna give her give him any tiger movement or motion.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Tiger, yeah.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_02: And she was what 16, 17 when that was going on.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_02: So obviously Tiger's a big rapper, she's influenced, she's young.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think I don't think it doesn't give me whole energy.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_02: I could actually count.
1:26:02
SPEAKER_02: What do you like to do with the Drake thing?
1:26:04
SPEAKER_02: I think it's I think that's the reason.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_02: I I could count more boyfriends on Kendall than Kylie.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I don't have a problem with people having boyfriends.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_02: That's never been my issue.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't I it's the fact that she was about to just sleep with Tori Lane.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_02: She was but that no one's saying that though.
1:26:17
SPEAKER_02: All they're saying is that all all Meg alluded to was or whoever alluded to it, because neither Kylie or Tori said we was about to fuck that night.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_02: So this is other people saying that they what they look like was flirting.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't mean I mean I give it to him.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_02: Many girls flirt and don't give no nigga no ass.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_02: Like unless you pay.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_02: According to you, and you can't and Kylie's you're gonna have to pay a lot.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_02: I just think there's uh there's a lot of uh, you know, black women get a lot that whole title a lot.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: How many, how many uh does uh sexy red uh sleep with?
1:26:49
SPEAKER_02: She's she's a hoe.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_01: Is it a type of acting though?
1:26:52
SPEAKER_01: Maybe like carricing and stuff like that.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_02: Number one, she calls herself a hoe, and she acts like a hoe.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_02: And I keep asking y'all what is acting like a hoe.
1:27:02
SPEAKER_02: Y'all told me about boyfriend.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_02: Look at sexy res.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_02: I think the sexy res is a beautiful woman.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: I never called her a hoe.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_02: Would you cover?
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm in a relationship.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_02: If you weren't, yeah.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_02: You're not covering no sexy res.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this gotta be cabbing for the candy.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_02: Cabby for the can.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm not gonna be like, huh?
1:27:20
SPEAKER_02: So Kaylee.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm asking why we don't attribute that to her.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: Because she does not carry herself like that.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_02: Number one, she has she's a billionaire.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_02: Number two, she doesn't talk, she doesn't talk about relationships, she doesn't expose people.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows why Travis got her not together.
1:27:32
SPEAKER_02: Got it.
1:27:33
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows why her and Tiger not together.
1:27:34
SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows how her and Timothy met.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_02: Like she she's she's you know, you know who she is?
1:27:40
SPEAKER_02: She is the white Lori Harvey.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_02: Got it.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_02: Because Lori Harvey, they try they call her Lori Harvey a hoe too.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_02: They try, but it don't really stick.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_02: Because she's not, she she carries, she don't carry herself like that.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of people call her a hoe too, but it's okay.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_02: The issue with Lori is that I think she's a little older than Kylie, and the the people she's dealt with are more public like more public than a than a uh uh an a list actor that's now but i'm saying that diddy um who was she with meek no not with meek no meek was did there was another big guy that she was with big guy big guy oh future like these people are huge artists who like to talk about they bitches so and show off their bitches so she's gonna look a certain way because when you walk when you run around with future who says oh my hoes got you know all the you're gonna look like you know but Travis don't move like that like he's this womanizer tiger I'll take all of my hoes and make a group okay is is Kylie not one no problem who said that uh Travis Scott he said that in the song I don't I don't think his girlfriend slash baby moms is included he actually said exes in that bar I'll take all my exes yeah he said and make a group so she wouldn't be including that bar if she Oh it's because she's white she's not a hoe that's all I'm implying I don't think so because Kim's a hoe no problem right oh but she literally was a hoe like she had sex on camera that's hoe all right let's move on that's that makes you a hoe you answer my question for me does that make you a hoe have making a private sex video that shit was not private no more that is whole activity okay thank you let's move on wait so if you record a video with your girl that's whole activity no no no no no no that was his girl the whole that was his girl him and her and Ray J yeah they were You educating me nah yeah they were in a relationship they were in a relationship okay but then so that tape wasn't sold to right that's that's the part where it's like no yes but what I'm saying is that that was his girl yeah but the tape wasn't sold so you and your girl make a sex tape and sell it what what does that make I don't think that makes her a hoe oh okay that's why we have different we have different uh morality yeah I don't I don't know I think y'all both hoes but men can't be hoes so she just gets a OnlyFans she's a hoe absolutely you crazy to me to me remember this is all in my pepping she's definitely whacky as long as she's fucking me nah I think whole activity is she's fucking everybody that's how porn works no it doesn't yes it is when you watch porn start have sex and you're enjoying yourself to that fucking everybody is that how you is that how you use porn like you imagine yourself fucking that girl that's the only way it's not gay to me.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_02: It's not gay yeah so you enjoy watching men fuck girls I don't I I enjoy watching sex.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so you enjoy another man having sex with women I enjoy watching a girl getting fucked by another man it's not me when I watch porn I imagine that's me.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_02: That's how you magically just put yourself in this it's not magic.
1:30:30
SPEAKER_02: It's just what I do Mike I don't watch porn well yeah I don't watch porn today no I don't huh like today I don't watch porn it's been a little while since I watched no don't try to join our train nigga I'll see what you do I what I'm I'm telling you watch porn this year I haven't yeah you have come on yeah I probably have no but you know you know it's funny sometimes I'll go watch it and not even but a little niggas we're in almost in October so I know if I say I've been watching in a little while that could be six months eight months this year is my argue I'm not saying you're wrong for watching porn though anyway I'm just saying like when I think it's like when I when I used to watch porn I every single scene this is another reason why I never watched white porn because I can't I can't imagine what's Mike has sent me porn videos he's I can believe that yeah so he watches porn but no no no I I've watched um we we move from that all right you got it I'm not trying to do a moral grandstanding here we're just different people so porn is crazy but sending me a a a girl's ass from Instagram is not no that's not soft porn there's no dick there what are you talking about that's not soft porn I don't know what's what's soft porn is it's soft porn that HBO shit where there's no penetration there's still two niggas where you can't see like there's soft porn magazines where she's just like have a patch on her nipple is there a man involved no in soft porn sometimes there's no there's no anyway long story short is what I'm saying is that I don't I think that part of it is watching the girl get have sex with yes that is porn but for me personally I have to imagine myself as the dude that's it but that's me that's my not me my weird quirking thing out there like there's some people that enjoy watching people have sex that's not my bad I I do understand that like you know there is a level of like like because what he's saying is like you know are you enjoying the scene or you are you do you think you're kind of putting yourself in that position you feel me yeah I'm enjoying the scene I'm enjoying that the girl is bouncing on uh dig in his mind every time I'm watching his mind is that how you taught look looked at it when you did watch it 20 years ago for me yeah it is uh obviously I know that what I'm seeing is not me you're gonna all right you're picking a girl that's your type yeah that I'm attracted to obviously yes I'm attracted to the girl that I in the video but what I'm saying is that also it's about the art of the performance.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_02: Not for me.
1:32:48
unknown: Okay.
1:32:49
SPEAKER_02: So you wouldn't go to like a what do you call it a the people having sex now in Vegas where they have like sex on stage and no you wouldn't go to that no okay I mean I'm not you're not crazy for that but I don't know I don't I don't think it's crazy to just enjoy the the image no that's that's cool for people that like that because there's a reason why the guy looks a certain way I don't know what the guys look like what a guy look like got it now what a guy look like next topic.
1:33:14
SPEAKER_02: No tell me tell me tell me what a guy look like you're right you're right I don't know either now you do know what the guy look like I don't okay how many male porn stars name you know I I don't know any.
1:33:25
SPEAKER_02: I probably know two male yeah you got me beat all right but you know what niggas look like though I don't know no I just know what the stereotypical porn star guy dude a person that's in shape yeah there's a reason why he looks like that though is to make it look it's not because they could just put any guy there if you're just gonna look at it I think I think it's a size thing because there's there's no no Ron Jeremy was not in shape I don't even I don't know but I'm just saying that okay maybe it is a size thing but I'm saying that it's a package no no of course pause now we know what you meant nine to the 10 the guy's gonna have abs or muscles or have a really big thing.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm already not even on that level bro sorry you guys are I'm sorry I'm sorry they they know when y'all bullshit I know and they they but do you see the porn yeah I never seen the y'all don't know what a porn star guy look I didn't say that you just I just said you know what a porn star guy look like you're like I don't know I know you were talking about the nigga on stage I I don't know nothing about I'm just saying on stage yes there's a porn star look but I think it's more defined by size.
1:34:23
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the number one criteria everything else is second I wouldn't say number one they're probably number two I would I would assume oh you're saying like it's number two like first I think his I think his a just how he looks nah I don't think they got anything to do with it.
1:34:36
SPEAKER_02: I think it's just a size thing to me if you're asking me.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_02: Bro if if pause if you had a a crazy slong just how you look they're not casting you over a guy who has six inches seven well personally I think you're wrong but let a porn person that does production tell me I'm wrong.
1:34:52
SPEAKER_02: And if and if they do hire you it's only for the dick shots.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna be in it like first I think you play with me a little bit I'm not because I I can say that about myself say it about yourself though okay but I'm just don't talk don't talk about me talking though I'm just what I'm saying is that nobody on this cast is in porn star shape that's what I'm you cool with him talking about you like no I'm not okay yo what is it browsers braces yo feel free to hire me now he wants to get it he don't watch it but not he wants to get are we part of it are we part of it he could he got you though yeah he got you though you're not watching it but you just participating he got you I mean yeah but that's that'll be more like a job thing right oh okay you know that's how you and money I can go to work and AG it would be better than imagining it's we yeah now you don't have to imagine but you gotta watch it though no now I'm doing it and you gotta watch it I don't yeah when they edit that shit you gotta mention it.
1:35:53
SPEAKER_02: Nah I don't I don't yo put it how you want I know what I did hey yo I just know when this pod goes down in history everybody's gonna know that Charlie never capped.
1:36:01
SPEAKER_02: Nah you've capped a lot of that I'll let you walk what and I don't even like using that word I very very No you don't do it as much as we do but you do it.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_02: Wait I don't cap.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay right I got you I don't I don't I don't cap either I just pod.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_02: I be podding so now is it is it foul as a friend to use privy information to out the capping?
1:36:24
SPEAKER_02: I can't that's nasty on the pod.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_01: Nah it's podcast it's not nasty it's not I'm after more after the pod is more yeah as Mike during the podcast now he knew he he signed up for when he sat down okay that's that's how podcasting work okay I'm glad he does yeah all right um four times yesterday now I'm saying this guy that's a lot of information all right breezy talk to me uh what's going on Mike tell us your your your man is uh I thought he was a patriot C C B made a comment I mean allegedly allegedly C B um Chris Brown made uh a comment I don't know I I haven't really seen the video or anything um I just it was more like reading but he said he wouldn't date he wouldn't marry an American woman um where's Karuchi from like I mean she's definitely make yeah yeah well yeah but he's he did say marry where's Karuchi from she's American and he was willing to cut off his arm to be with her so I'm gonna say that he's full of shit he's willing to no not necessarily nah I don't think so I mean well this number one caruchy was like 10 years ago this could be a new opinion oh okay yeah this could be like hey I've you know I've been through this a few times you know fair enough fair enough that's one well resurfaced now I can't I don't know when he really said it but right yeah he said uh he claims that many American women view marriage as a business deal rather than a true union of love um I'd rather he said I'd rather have a baby I'd rather have baby mamas and take care of my kids than marry someone who's just waiting for a cash out which I think everybody would agree with.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_02: I would agree with that in that vacuum but I think he's absolutely out of his mind.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_02: That one was a little vague but I think the whole comment in general is like if those are my two options then yeah but those are not his options that's not anybody's options I think he's speaking part I do understand.
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: I understand but I disagree I understand too I disagree though yeah I think that you can find a woman that just wants to be with you for you.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_02: I understand but tell now tell a woman that you only want to get married in the church and she I think I think that's wrong for the woman though because if you die she doesn't inherit any answer again we're it's 2026.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_02: We could set all that up is what I'm I don't know how you can when he has children.
1:38:41
SPEAKER_02: You can't leave a will like a will yeah but then you would have to fight that the the problem is specifically in America when it comes to inheritance there's a next of kin thing and that also goes up I mean the kid should get the next he should the it should be kids so let me give you an example right you get with Chris Brown you are Chris Brown hot thank you some a woman gets with you right she has no kids with you but this is the woman that you choose she has kids with him nowhere.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_02: No no button comes back right she's back she gives up her modeling she gives up her career she gives up everything.
1:39:21
SPEAKER_02: Love that yeah yeah you're she's just putting all her money all her oh yeah all her stuff in the Chris Brown basket or that big show of money yeah you die you guys weren't married and now he has a gang of kids he does money is not finite I mean money is finite it's not infinite right but the kids you put in your in your um in your uh whatever that she gets whatever you guys negotiate but he also has kids and the next of kin doesn't just go to kids it also goes to parents like people leave that part out the money goes back his parents are alive so they can exhaust all the money especially if he didn't specify just because he specified uh Karushi gets 20 million let's say his estate is only worth 80 she gets 20 of that but he also has five kids and two parents how does that work they split 60.
1:40:12
SPEAKER_02: No but that it it's not that clean when I have a lawyer that's like well he uh next of kin's laws in in uh California means he has to get at least 57%.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah the point is you to a degree you will be taken care of.
1:40:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but my thing is what if that 20 million is now eight you still take care of six you still take care of or it's three or it's in the court system for so long I don't have a house to live in.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_02: I you didn't leave me anything besides 20 million dollars but there's there's ways around I could I could put some money in your account no but you didn't do we could have a but in the in the argument that we're making is you're good I put you in my will that's what y'all said y'all didn't specify all these there's more to that no but I'm saying it's easy to say that after he's dead but he can't do that now he's dead no no no I'm saying before what I'm saying is it could be like babe we're not gonna do that we let's say she's coming at me with this she's not you as the man said hey he's changing minds like I don't think it's fair to do that because that's that's hindsight.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_02: He's dead he can't change anything you left her 20 million dollars that's it no what he's saying is like all right fuck fuck there's a way to do it but as the woman I'm telling you why marriage is not just a business thing it's also about protection.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_02: No I understand as a woman yeah um instead of me putting you on my will I'm gonna just wire this 20 mil it's in your personal account and we just or or I might have an Airbnb business that I'm I'm I might made you co-owner of that no that's an asset.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_01: It don't work like that.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean when I die that shit gets what he's saying is in her name though isn't it no he's saying that's what I'm saying you did not say it was in her name well I say well okay well that's what I meant I meant like co like like we're both like we're both giving me a business that can potentially that could potentially just gain no money that you know maybe I'm not with that I'd rather just between no no no but no no no well I'm just saying like maybe he's like I'm not you see all the circles we jump into right now you know what the easiest thing is to do is we're married and now that when you die I'm entitled to things right and now that's the easiest thing to do.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_01: So now I'm putting myself in a vulnerable position where women and start 70% of divorce.
1:42:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah but then like like you gotta understand like everything have a prenup.
1:42:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:42:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay then cool but then but then that's the problem where the lawyer will fight no prenups are pretty iron clad and they don't want prenups you know how many weddings have been called off after that yeah but that then that girl's a loser anyway and you know and there's usually one caveat in the prenup infidelity.
1:42:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but then don't put that that's the thing if you are the breadwinner yeah you get to you decide what the it's in the I'm sorry it's gonna it's gonna tell me but you get can I get to fight because why are you fighting not cheating if you're not gonna cheat it's a hard thing to fight can I get in my conspiracy bag for a second I'll I'll I'll do the pre dum thing I'm gonna get in my conspiracy bag y'all don't have to agree with me y'all don't have to disagree me y'all can comment y'all don't have to comment it's totally up to you comment I think as a society we are being geared away from following the laws of the most high and that is what all that is what all this anti-marriage should do so so so then but I agree with that but give me a second so then okay go ahead if if with that mindset I like you know because it seems like I'm like no marriage no no no that's not the case but we I sorry my take now is only understanding how things are right now.
1:43:24
SPEAKER_01: And then if we go back to like a traditional thing I'm not against you know all of that you know marriage and stuff I'm actually pro that right but the problem is my attitude now is it's kind of like a defense mechanism to what we experience today.
1:43:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah but a person like me was saying you lost the fight then that's that because you're you're letting the worldly things change your own perception you're right but to a degree there's a le there's a there's a there's a level where it's like all right all right put it like this it's hard for me to no one person could change the world right we agree to that you can only I disagree with that too one person can change the world one person can have an impact that changes okay an impact yeah but that one what I'm saying is I can't stop the world from um dying by just me not taking the trash out.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_01: No no no it's gotta be a community or you know so what I'm saying is a lot of times people have the update optic of like damn like you know uh every time I have trash I'm the only person that I know in my group that like I have trash in my car and I don't throw away in the highway I wait to get home or I wait for a garbage whatever but I see everything around me.
1:44:34
SPEAKER_01: So with everything nobody's perfect.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_01: So there's gonna be out of 50 things there's gonna be probably seven that I'm going to choose this route of like all right I'm not gonna be the one to just like you know be picking up after everybody else's and seeing me seeing all nine other people doing it.
1:44:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah I don't get the analogy to what I'm talking about.
1:44:53
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is with the with the wedding thing I see this a lot and that might be you know kind of like me laying out my card of like yo I don't I'm that's not I'm not willing to make an exception there.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_02: And my conspiracy counterargument to that is they won.
1:45:07
SPEAKER_02: They beat you you're right.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm saying the thing who you say I can see that the powers it be the the the the no he's saying he's saying I allow myself to I allow the situation to change my well the thing is also just like not not even cut you off I'm sorry just like with OnlyFans there's a bunch of women that when pornography was because porn has been around forever.
1:45:26
SPEAKER_02: There's a bunch of women that look down on porn and now that OnlyFans is an easy gateway for them to make money a lot of women are turning towards doing that.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_02: I think the powers that be won yeah yeah in that in that sense yeah um my thing is that yeah they I in a way they won because yeah they controlled everything but what I'm saying is that if if we're going away the if if we're going away the of from the law of the of God right the most high yeah the most high um she also shouldn't have the ability to to divorce no well freedom of um choice is probably one of the biggest divorce is against God.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah no so Tim I would say that you just chose wrong.
1:46:06
SPEAKER_02: That's on you.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_02: Okay but what I'm saying is Because men control relations she's using something that is not a abiding by the law of the law.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but you chose that woman that's your problem okay cool but what I'm saying is that he's taking it off he's saying off that like taking it off what I'm saying is if it was a world where divorce was illegal then yeah guys will get married because divorce has never been illegal so what I'm so that's what I'm saying why can't she just get married through the church?
1:46:34
SPEAKER_02: No no that's fine but I'm trying to explain to you why a it doesn't work from a a societal standpoint of because marriage through the government is the reason for that has always been to protect assets.
1:46:46
SPEAKER_02: That's what that's about.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah and you're telling a woman who lives in this world that she should be comfortable with having to sit in court for what could be years after she gave you her life I think that's fucking crazy.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_02: I have a daughter so if I was I'm raising a woman right but we hold on hold on let me finish let me let me land let me let me land let me let me land let me land I have a daughter right and if she got with a dude and he was like yeah I'm cool with just marrying you in uh the the church I'm not cool with um I'm getting like marrying you in government wise I'll tell her to leave that dude honest to God and I and I would understand because he doesn't give a fuck about her that's how I look at it.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_02: And I would understand especially if a nigga that don't got nothing to lose like what's you what's the reason to me that's why they won.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah because you know what the result is right then there's no marriage.
1:47:32
SPEAKER_02: Because let's be real you saying that to a woman hey let's just get married in the church she's gonna be offended by that so the end result is no marriage.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_02: And that's what they want.
1:47:40
SPEAKER_02: Well why not if marriage is is marriage began because of the church.
1:47:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's true.
1:47:46
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
1:47:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you mean by that before the government was you having marriage wait you think oh you think only um people that believe in God get married?
1:47:53
SPEAKER_02: I think that marriage started from a religious place and then the government I think marriage started from an assets place.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_02: What no marriage started from religion I don't think so I think marriage and we can just look this up I think marriage started from this kingdom and that kingdom wanting to join kingdoms no I don't I mean no yeah how many how many ghosts how many ghosts do you have and all these things but she also was never gonna leave that man like it started it started it started under Wait you think bitches started cheating and fucking other dudes because of wait where I'm I'm kind of I'm saying for I'm saying the first person to ever get married yeah I think it was because of that's what God asked of us.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_02: I think that is false okay I think the first people that ever got married is because this king has this and that kingdom has that but before anything like before we're talking about for fucking cavemen they didn't have a God so what point are you making you talking about Adam and Eve?
1:48:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm Adam and Eve didn't get married so why don't we just why is it called married in the Bible then oh because marriage exists through like God tells you to do that.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_02: That's something you should do.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_02: And if you believe in the Bible that was that's been since the beginning of time.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_02: No okay so let's put it like this and we're not having a Bible talk.
1:49:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah clearly we're doing that and I don't I don't even think we're equipped to do this.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_02: My my my argument to you is this I just came from church.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_02: Are you talking from from a historical standpoint or are you talking from a biblical standpoint?
1:49:18
SPEAKER_02: Because they're two different things.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_02: I th I think that historically so history we remember right I think I think historically society got the idea of marriage from the Bible.
1:49:30
SPEAKER_02: I think that that is completely false.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_01: Because the Bible did not exist for all of humanity the Bible came after Jesus Christ all right uh oh so uh I googled this it says marriage originated as practical legal and economic contract for property inheritance and alliance rather than a romantic union but as I keep reading though so they've been one as as I keep as I Keep reading though, it says evolution into religion and law.
1:50:04
SPEAKER_01: So religious san sanctity.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_01: It says the Catholic Church treated marriage marriage as a sacred event and declared and declared it I they declared it a foremost sacrament in the 12th century.
1:50:22
SPEAKER_01: And then it says state control, government increased legal involvement in the 18th century.
1:50:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't think he needs to keep going.
1:50:28
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, no, because uh y'all didn't peep the second part.
1:50:33
SPEAKER_01: So I'm saying what I'm saying is it said Catholics started in the f 12th century and then government started in the 18th century.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you're talking about the zero century.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_01: No, no, I know.
1:50:41
SPEAKER_01: But he's saying, which the point is, it started first through the church.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_01: That the first sentence disputes that.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_04: Read the first sentence again.
1:50:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, I think he's yeah, you said that it started from a legal and this is the evolution.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we he's asking about the first part of it.
1:50:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but the first part, all right, you read it.
1:51:00
SPEAKER_01: No, you already read it.
1:51:01
SPEAKER_01: I don't need to read it.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is, if it says, it's just common sense.
1:51:05
SPEAKER_01: If it says religion, Catholic Church uh treated uh marriage as a sacred event and declared it a formal sacrament in the 12th century.
1:51:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's but I but that is before the 18th century.
1:51:18
SPEAKER_01: I only brought this up to say like it started with church, not the government, which is what you were saying, that it started from the government.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying that it started from assets.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_02: He was saying that, yeah, he he I I said the government, he said that people in general would be just for assets for assets.
1:51:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay because it pretended because I was just like, where how did it start?
1:51:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm just curious about the loss.
1:51:37
SPEAKER_02: It just protects, it's not only it's not only for the girl, it's also for your children.
1:51:42
SPEAKER_02: That's why your name is Michaelson because your dad was Michael.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_02: Now, when Michael dies, we know that's Michelson, and Michaelson is gonna inherit this kingdom.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
1:51:51
SPEAKER_02: The only thing is what I'm saying is that back then she couldn't leave him.
1:51:54
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean by that?
1:51:55
SPEAKER_02: His assets were not at risk.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_02: No, you're talking about her.
1:51:59
SPEAKER_02: No, I know, but she couldn't be using him and like wait 10 years or whatever and then leave him and take half his money.
1:52:05
SPEAKER_02: Like she at least he knew that you're gonna die with me.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_02: No, I I I misunderstand.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_02: So you're telling me that a woman in the first century was not allowed to divorce her husband.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_02: No, divorce divorce or whatever, break up the kingdom.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_02: She literally can just go leave and go sleep with the other guy.
1:52:22
SPEAKER_02: Like that's always been.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_02: I think her consequences are gonna be grave.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_02: No, couldn't you?
1:52:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't think she can do it.
1:52:26
SPEAKER_02: But can she do it though?
1:52:28
SPEAKER_02: Is what we're debating.
1:52:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay, you can do whatever you want.
1:52:30
SPEAKER_02: That's my point.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying.
1:52:32
SPEAKER_02: You are making a fantasy.
1:52:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but if that costs her life, she might not do it.
1:52:35
SPEAKER_02: Then why the fuck would you want to be with a woman that is capable of that, anyways?
1:52:39
SPEAKER_02: That is the point.
1:52:40
SPEAKER_02: The point of this you don't know if she's capable, like everybody's capable of it, but what I'm saying is we're all in here capable of all the most treacherous things in the world, right?
1:52:47
SPEAKER_02: But you, by spending time with somebody, knows whether or not this person would probably do this.
1:52:52
SPEAKER_01: You well, you assume, yeah, yeah.
1:52:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that that's the whole process of finding somebody to cleave onto.
1:52:59
SPEAKER_02: But again, I'm talking from a biblical standpoint.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about a person that follows Jesus Christ.
1:53:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking to all the people that back then people were murdering all the time.
1:53:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, before we.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_02: But now we still have the same instincts, but we won't because we're gonna go to jail, whatever the case is.
1:53:11
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, she could cheat, but now if a girl cheat, ain't nothing gonna happen to her.
1:53:15
SPEAKER_02: Back then, she might die.
1:53:16
SPEAKER_02: Or she might be fine because the guy she cheated with has a bigger kingdom than yours.
1:53:19
SPEAKER_02: So I don't give a fuck.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_02: Or or we or he might get killed too.
1:53:22
SPEAKER_02: No, I have a bigger kingdom of yours.
1:53:24
SPEAKER_02: They're not gonna go to war over no bitch, bro.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but guess what?
1:53:27
SPEAKER_02: She still won't get half of his kingdom, though.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_02: No, I already I already got that.
1:53:29
SPEAKER_02: I already took the.
1:53:30
SPEAKER_02: You didn't.
1:53:31
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
1:53:31
SPEAKER_02: How?
1:53:32
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean how?
1:53:32
SPEAKER_02: You cheated and left to another kingdom.
1:53:34
SPEAKER_02: You can't now come and be like, yo, I cheated.
1:53:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm with this guy.
1:53:36
SPEAKER_02: I need 50 of your county.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_02: Wait, so go so gold is not a thing that I can just put in my pockets and go leave with?
1:53:40
SPEAKER_02: Bro.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_02: Why do you think cows?
1:53:42
SPEAKER_04: Why cows are gonna be like how much gold is she gonna fit in her pocket?
1:53:44
SPEAKER_02: It don't matter.
1:53:45
SPEAKER_02: It's more gold than the dude over there got.
1:53:47
SPEAKER_02: No, if I have a kingdom, bro, all right, you got it, bro.
1:53:50
SPEAKER_02: You you think my gold is just sitting in a forest just with the floor.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:53:53
SPEAKER_02: She would know where the gold is.
1:53:55
SPEAKER_02: She's your wife.
1:53:55
SPEAKER_02: And it's not and the gold's not protected.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_02: Why would it need to be protected in your personal house?
1:54:00
SPEAKER_02: Talk about your personal stuff, not the kingdom's gold.
1:54:02
SPEAKER_02: You're you're you're speaking everything's hypothetical, but it's like, bro, the girl that you marry in in the year 100 is not gonna go put three bricks of gold in her pocket and leave to the next kingdom.
1:54:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, why why not, though?
1:54:16
SPEAKER_02: Is what I'm asking you.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying it's very, very, very unlike.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_02: How do you know if you weren't there and I wasn't there?
1:54:21
SPEAKER_02: How do you know that she Because I I think human nature is something that has been the same from the beginning about survival.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's about yeah, it's possible.
1:54:29
SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is, for example, the same reason why people weren't gay 200 years ago.
1:54:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's possible.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_02: You don't think people weren't gonna be away.
1:54:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm saying I'm saying openly, openly.
1:54:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that's persecution.
1:54:38
SPEAKER_02: It's possible, yeah.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_02: Wait, why wouldn't a guy be gay?
1:54:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, he might get fucking hung.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_02: No, that that's yeah, he might not do it because it's yeah, it's so easy.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_02: But this is how this is the beauty of it.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_02: Do you not think that there was people that still were gay?
1:54:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes, of course.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_02: Openly.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_02: People are people would it's the same reason.
1:54:55
SPEAKER_02: Women have been cheating, women have been cheating forever, dudes have been gay.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_02: Like we're openly, as in were they walking down the street holding hands with a man?
1:55:03
SPEAKER_02: No, that they are like, hey, I'm gonna go have sneak out and do what I do my thing.
1:55:07
SPEAKER_02: And then some of them just end up with another dude.
1:55:09
SPEAKER_02: That's just how the shit happens.
1:55:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, I mean, in the in the dark evil times, yes, that would happen back back then.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_02: What?
1:55:16
SPEAKER_02: Like there was a lot of uh you're talking about the Greek Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that was done under certain guys, like war and this and that.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_02: You're not going back to Athens and just hand in hand with another day.
1:55:28
SPEAKER_02: I don't all I know is in a lot of these cultures that shit was flying.
1:55:31
SPEAKER_02: But we we're going on a whole tangent that we you know that it'll be on.
1:55:35
SPEAKER_01: Always love, you know, when they go back into it back and forth, you know.
1:55:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm pro-marriage.
1:55:39
SPEAKER_02: I think everybody should get married.
1:55:41
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
1:55:42
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
1:55:43
SPEAKER_01: I pro I I I'm pro-marriage and I hope we bring the old tradition over here.
1:55:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, are or like what why are you pro-marriage?
1:55:51
SPEAKER_02: Like, what I'm saying is, growing up, like, what told you you should get married?
1:55:57
SPEAKER_02: The church?
1:55:58
SPEAKER_02: You asking me?
1:55:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like your parents, uh, it's a combination of everything.
1:56:01
SPEAKER_02: I uh my parents were married, so that's what I know.
1:56:04
SPEAKER_02: That's the standard that they set for me.
1:56:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, as coming as into an adulthood and my relationship with the most high, I like the idea of cleaving onto somebody.
1:56:11
SPEAKER_02: Did your parents divorce?
1:56:12
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:56:13
SPEAKER_02: My dad died.
1:56:14
SPEAKER_02: That was their divorce.
1:56:14
SPEAKER_02: Till death through his part.
1:56:16
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_02: So my I like the idea of cleaving onto somebody that we are now one thing and we are gonna go through this world together.
1:56:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think times have changed a little bit.
1:56:27
SPEAKER_02: No, for y'all, yeah, because they won, they beat you.
1:56:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm not being I'm not gonna get beaten by the demonic forces of the world.
1:56:33
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:56:34
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_01: I still want to get married.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_01: But it's just there's a but there.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_01: No, the butt, yeah, and the butt is me adjusting to today.
1:56:41
SPEAKER_01: I and I refuse to do it.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_01: But I got you.
1:56:43
SPEAKER_01: But what I'm saying is, like, if I'm going to give someone an advice, that is my take.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_01: Now, me personally, you know, I might want to like take another route or like, you know, kind of like try to find the best because I am God fearing, right?
1:56:58
SPEAKER_01: And for me, it's not even my fan, because my mom and dad, they're not even together.
1:57:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, I didn't even get to see them together growing up.
1:57:04
SPEAKER_01: But it's more like a godly thing, right?
1:57:07
SPEAKER_01: For me, right?
1:57:08
SPEAKER_01: The whole marriage thing.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_01: But there's not a lot of godly women out here.
1:57:12
SPEAKER_02: So again, I think that is the work of demonic force.
1:57:18
SPEAKER_02: There's a gang of I think the church.
1:57:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't think God I don't think God is uh uh against marriage through the church, though.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not saying he isn't, but that was the that was what I was promoting.
1:57:28
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I was church.
1:57:30
SPEAKER_02: This is what I keep telling y'all.
1:57:31
SPEAKER_02: Y'all are missing the trick bag.
1:57:33
SPEAKER_02: Find the woman that's in your life right now, and I don't mean to put you on the spot.
1:57:36
SPEAKER_02: If you don't want to answer, you don't have to.
1:57:37
SPEAKER_02: If you went to her and was like, hey, baby, we're gonna get married, only through the church, though, you think she'd be, oh yeah, great.
1:57:41
SPEAKER_02: I think you don't think that's gonna be a frictional conversation?
1:57:44
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I think that's my point is why have a frictional conversation when you could just get married the way that we have been doing it forever?
1:57:52
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna use the argument, hold on.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna use the argument about what's happening today, and to me, that is where they win.
1:57:58
SPEAKER_02: But if but if if that's not what I want to do, why do I have to just Oh no, if you don't want to be married, then I'm talking about it.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_02: If I don't want to do it through the state, why do I have to just submit to avoid a confrontational argument?
1:58:07
SPEAKER_02: Because then you're not gonna get married at all.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_02: So you're never gonna get married to a church.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_02: She might just be like, okay, let's let's put a percentages game.
1:58:13
SPEAKER_02: If that becomes a frictional conversation, are we leading towards marriage or away from it?
1:58:18
SPEAKER_02: No, we're leading from it.
1:58:19
SPEAKER_02: During the conversation, we're leading away from it.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_02: But prenups is a is a frictional conversation.
1:58:22
SPEAKER_02: But of course, of course, but that and then that's my argument.
1:58:26
SPEAKER_02: There was we did not need these things until the powers that be have created these things, and the loss is I'm just not gonna get married.
1:58:34
SPEAKER_02: And that's what most people are doing.
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: That's not even my opinion, that's a statistic thing.
1:58:37
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to stay in my business.
1:58:39
SPEAKER_02: No, that's cool, but I'm trying to explain to y'all again the other how it's viewed.
1:58:44
SPEAKER_02: That is gonna create a frictional conversation, and that's gonna eliminate more women.
1:58:49
SPEAKER_01: For me, that's gonna be something that you gotta lay this out down early.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_01: You can't just be like, all right, we engaged, we you know, and we as we're planning the wedding.
1:58:55
SPEAKER_01: Hey, honey, by the way, you know, this is gonna be like, you know, we're gonna talk about this before.
1:58:59
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm with y'all, bro.
1:59:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, all I say is as long as y'all get married, that's cool.
1:59:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's wrong?
1:59:04
SPEAKER_02: What's wrong with like just staying together?
1:59:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, for me, that's just not biblical.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_02: For me, but that's why all right, I don't want to.
1:59:12
SPEAKER_02: No, but I see I wouldn't have a marriage conversation with you because you're not following the city.
1:59:15
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying.
1:59:16
SPEAKER_04: If it's because it's not biblical, then do it biblically.
1:59:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I understand that.
1:59:19
SPEAKER_02: But I again, I'm trying to find the easiest path to accomplish my goals, right?
1:59:23
SPEAKER_02: But if you find a girl that's equal, if you have a girl that does believe in biblically also, yeah, then there shouldn't be friction in the conversation.
1:59:32
SPEAKER_02: It's going to be friction because she also lives in a world that you can die and she is left with nothing.
1:59:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh, but you see, but I I think that you can get around that.
1:59:42
SPEAKER_02: I think no, I'm not saying why do I need to get around that when I could just go get married?
1:59:47
SPEAKER_01: Would in that case her mind be like, oh shit, like you see, like you see how I'm like uh thinking about how girls are these days?
1:59:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I don't give a shit about the no disrespect to women, but I'm not looking at her to lead, you're leading her to marriage.
1:59:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's you're the one that controls that.
2:00:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a fuck what she thinks.
2:00:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm just trying to explain to you, if you are the one that the goal is to get married, why create more friction?
2:00:10
SPEAKER_02: And the only way that my brain tells me why there's a lot of friction is because there's somebody controlling that.
2:00:15
SPEAKER_02: Because this conversation, my parents weren't having this conversation 10 years ago.
2:00:18
SPEAKER_02: Or because the man is the one with something to lose.
2:00:21
SPEAKER_02: The man has always been the one with something to lose.
2:00:23
SPEAKER_02: Why in this day and age are they not getting married?
2:00:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, because maybe in your parents' uh uh lifetime, time, yeah, like um, she wasn't gonna leave him.
2:00:33
SPEAKER_02: Like that wasn't talking.
2:00:35
SPEAKER_02: Women had been leaving men since the first time women and men were together.
2:00:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but not to the same degree.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know what y'all are talking about, bro.
2:00:42
SPEAKER_02: Again, they were not to the same degree.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: But based on what?
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: What are you based on?
2:00:45
SPEAKER_02: You know how in 1950.
2:00:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:00:47
SPEAKER_04: You know how hard it was for a woman to divorce.
2:00:49
SPEAKER_04: Oh, because she couldn't work.
2:00:51
SPEAKER_04: No, but also because you had no rights.
2:00:53
SPEAKER_04: No.
2:00:54
SPEAKER_04: He still had to agree to the divorce.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_04: Today you can just be like, oh, I'm leaving this man and this and that.
2:00:58
SPEAKER_04: If he don't sign.
2:00:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay, number one, I don't know if that's true.
2:01:01
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is what men have when a man is and and maybe because she couldn't work, maybe that did give him security.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_02: But now that she can work, he might be like, damn, she could probably leave now.
2:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay, again.
2:01:13
SPEAKER_02: This is what I'm trying to say.
2:01:16
SPEAKER_02: Marriage and relationships are controlled by men.
2:01:20
SPEAKER_02: It's always been a risk for men get or you disagree.
2:01:24
SPEAKER_02: If you disagree, then let's talk about that.
2:01:25
SPEAKER_02: It is, it is.
2:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Marriage is controlled by men.
2:01:28
SPEAKER_02: Relationships.
2:01:30
SPEAKER_02: A woman can tell you that you're in a relationship with a man.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_02: Not control.
2:01:32
SPEAKER_02: Not control.
2:01:32
SPEAKER_01: What I mean is, what he means is the man is the one that Oh gives it.
2:01:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we give the relationship.
2:01:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:01:38
SPEAKER_02: Now we're doing the semantics game.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, you know, especially matriarchal society.
2:01:43
SPEAKER_02: I have never been told that I'm in a relationship with somebody.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_02: I've been the one that's in, hey, we're in a relationship.
2:01:47
SPEAKER_02: We've we are we we've spoken about this before.
2:01:49
SPEAKER_02: We definitely agree that the man gives a relationship.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that oftentimes once he gives it, he's not in control of it.
2:01:55
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's that's a whole different argument.
2:01:57
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha, gotcha.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_02: So it has always been a risk for a man to marry a woman or even date a woman.
2:02:03
SPEAKER_02: That risk is assumed by the man.
2:02:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:02:05
SPEAKER_02: Always.
2:02:06
SPEAKER_02: That's history.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where we're disagreeing with because the risks have changed.
2:02:11
SPEAKER_02: No, that is true, but there's all uh do we agree that there's always been risks?
2:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:02:15
SPEAKER_02: So the dude, so the dude in the 1920s and the dude in 21 million after we're dead and gone, both have risk.
2:02:21
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:02:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:02:22
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
2:02:23
SPEAKER_02: That is not.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_02: No, that's it for me.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_02: Well, for me, the risk is relative.
2:02:28
SPEAKER_02: To you, you might look at it like, oh yeah, the only thing he would So what is the guy in the 1920s?
2:02:32
SPEAKER_02: What was his risk of marrying a woman?
2:02:34
SPEAKER_02: He would one, she probably wouldn't leave because No, that's not a risk.
2:02:38
SPEAKER_02: What are his risks?
2:02:40
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying, okay, what I'm saying is there isn't the the reason the risk is so low in the 1920s because she probably can't leave.
2:02:47
SPEAKER_02: She put there.
2:02:48
SPEAKER_02: But that's not what I'm asking you.
2:02:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm asking you, what are his risks?
2:02:51
SPEAKER_02: She cheats with the with the with the male guy, but she still can't leave.
2:02:54
SPEAKER_02: No, but so leaving is the only risk that you care about?
2:02:57
SPEAKER_02: In the 1920s, as a guy with money?
2:02:59
SPEAKER_02: What what what risk is there?
2:03:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the the fact that she can bear a child from another dude and raise it that that like that's your child.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_02: So your genetics don't get passed on.
2:03:07
SPEAKER_02: Only his does.
2:03:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean, but uh okay, but that's of course that's a risk.
2:03:11
SPEAKER_02: No, but what I'm saying is That's what I'm talking about.
2:03:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that that that's not the risk.
2:03:14
SPEAKER_02: You know how you mitigate that risk, right?
2:03:16
SPEAKER_02: How?
2:03:16
SPEAKER_02: Because you get with a woman that just wouldn't do that.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_02: That is the point.
2:03:20
SPEAKER_02: You don't think the guy in the 1920s thought that the woman he that did that wouldn't do that?
2:03:24
SPEAKER_02: No, because he did not do uh do his due diligence.
2:03:26
SPEAKER_01: The problem I I get what he's saying.
2:03:29
SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like that's why you filter, right?
2:03:32
SPEAKER_01: You don't just marry someone.
2:03:34
SPEAKER_01: But but the problem is that the powers that be with they won.
2:03:36
SPEAKER_01: Again, here's the thing.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_02: For me, is a I If you get a girl pregnant, you a girl that didn't do the due diligence?
2:03:42
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
2:03:43
SPEAKER_02: If you get another woman pregnant, that's on her because she didn't do that.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_02: What is she losing in that scenario?
2:03:48
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying No, we're talking about risk.
2:03:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:03:50
SPEAKER_02: What did she lose by me knocking up another girl?
2:03:53
SPEAKER_02: How?
2:03:54
SPEAKER_02: I just knocked up another girl.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_02: What did she lose?
2:03:56
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that forget about losing.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is if we're forgetting about losing.
2:04:01
SPEAKER_02: If we're forgetting You can stay with her.
2:04:03
SPEAKER_02: In my analogy, I told you what the guy lost.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm asking you to tell me what I lost.
2:04:06
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is she could get knocked up and he can stay.
2:04:08
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_02: Dog, in my in the analogy that you that you gave me, I'm asking you to tell me what does the women lose?
2:04:16
SPEAKER_02: If I knock up a girl, what did my girl lose?
2:04:19
SPEAKER_02: Income.
2:04:19
SPEAKER_02: Now you're spending more money on the children.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_02: How does she lose income?
2:04:21
SPEAKER_02: You're the money that should be coming into the house is going over there.
2:04:24
SPEAKER_04: She lost income?
2:04:26
SPEAKER_04: The house my marriage lost income.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_04: That's me.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_04: That's not her.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_04: You are taking care of her.
2:04:31
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know your specific situation, but I'm saying in general, I'm assuming you're taking care of her.
2:04:35
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
2:04:36
SPEAKER_04: What did she lose?
2:04:37
SPEAKER_04: Nothing.
2:04:38
SPEAKER_04: Mike, my own.
2:04:39
SPEAKER_01: He's saying he's saying now the money that would have just came to my house is going over there.
2:04:46
SPEAKER_01: What did she lose?
2:04:47
SPEAKER_01: We could have bought another house.
2:04:48
SPEAKER_04: We could have bought another car, we could have bought another house.
2:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's taking in another That's not a loss.
2:04:52
SPEAKER_02: That's not losing anything.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_02: Me not buying something is a loss.
2:04:57
SPEAKER_02: No, losing the ability to is not.
2:04:59
SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't lose any ability to do anything.
2:05:01
SPEAKER_02: I did not if I'm trying to see what the risk of a woman.
2:05:04
SPEAKER_02: Now, if you said, oh, I could bring back an STD to her, cool.
2:05:08
SPEAKER_02: That's a risk for her.
2:05:09
SPEAKER_02: But a child, she didn't lose anything.
2:05:11
SPEAKER_02: A man, if if your girl has a child from another man, what do you lose?
2:05:15
SPEAKER_04: If that girl got you on child support for a thousand a month, cool.
2:05:17
SPEAKER_04: That thousand could be going towards something that we have to do.
2:05:20
SPEAKER_02: Could be versus, hey, we can't live here anymore because you had a child with another girl.
2:05:24
SPEAKER_02: That could happen.
2:05:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know what type of man.
2:05:27
SPEAKER_04: If I'm losing a whole thousand dollars a month, that could affect the rent.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's a whole different thing.
2:05:31
SPEAKER_02: I uh you're telling me I'm losing the ability to buy something I don't already have.
2:05:35
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that could happen.
2:05:36
SPEAKER_02: I could lose the ability to keep what I have.
2:05:38
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_02: But again, at the end of the day, I don't see what the risk is for a woman outside of like if you were to use the argument like STD cool, but I don't see what having a child out of my relationship, how does it what does she lose in that situation?
2:05:49
SPEAKER_02: That's like an integrity thing.
2:05:51
SPEAKER_02: That's not a hey, an like, hey, an asset.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_02: So she's so everything's normal.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_02: She's good.
2:05:57
SPEAKER_02: No, for personally, she probably's not gonna be.
2:05:59
SPEAKER_02: But what is her life didn't change?
2:06:01
SPEAKER_02: Like I her life didn't change.
2:06:03
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:06:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't see I don't see it that way, but again, I'm not a woman, so I don't know.
2:06:09
SPEAKER_02: But I know as a man, one of the goals in life is to pass on your genetic material.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_02: And if within your marriage, yeah, but what if your every kid that you popped out that you thought was yours was the neighbors?
2:06:20
SPEAKER_02: That's what a man could lose by having a promiscuous woman.
2:06:23
SPEAKER_02: He would never know if that's the case.
2:06:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but then his genetic material doesn't pass on.
2:06:27
SPEAKER_02: He don't know that he thinks it is passing on.
2:06:29
SPEAKER_02: That's a loss, though.
2:06:32
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying.
2:06:33
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm saying.
2:06:34
SPEAKER_02: But again, we're going in circles, it's fine.
2:06:36
SPEAKER_02: That was that was our miseducation of marriage and government, etc.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_01: That's that's all I'm saying is the way these girls act today.
2:06:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think you're speaking from privilege because you are settled down and you have to work.
2:06:53
SPEAKER_01: No, and my thing is, literally all it is.
2:06:56
SPEAKER_02: My thing is there's a guy in your exact position, and that girl is give me a second, uh, a demon that he chose wrong.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_01: No, that's no, he didn't, no, he did, he did.
2:07:04
SPEAKER_01: I agree with him.
2:07:05
SPEAKER_01: But we can get deceived?
2:07:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
2:07:07
SPEAKER_01: No, yes.
2:07:08
SPEAKER_01: I could wake up tomorrow and come to this podcast and say, gosh, you still gotta be accountable for the world.
2:07:12
SPEAKER_02: I have to be accountable for that.
2:07:14
SPEAKER_02: I understand that.
2:07:14
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what we do.
2:07:15
SPEAKER_02: No, because no disrespect, I look at men as leaders.
2:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you don't.
2:07:20
SPEAKER_02: No, no, yes, we are leaders.
2:07:21
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying.
2:07:22
SPEAKER_02: So you know what comes with being a leader is accountability.
2:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:07:26
SPEAKER_02: She didn't choose you chose to marry her.
2:07:28
SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying, I'm not what I'm I'm not saying I have no blame.
2:07:31
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that she deceived, like, for example.
2:07:35
SPEAKER_02: To be deceived, you have to be a willing participant.
2:07:38
SPEAKER_02: You know that, right?
2:07:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to what you believe is the truth.
2:07:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay, you willingly participated in this.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_02: Because I believe I tried.
2:07:45
SPEAKER_02: Well, then you're a ding dong.
2:07:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's that's alright.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_02: I do.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_02: That's how I look at it.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_02: It's guns and butter, bro.
2:07:51
SPEAKER_02: Plato.
2:07:51
SPEAKER_02: That's how I look at it.
2:07:52
SPEAKER_02: He did pick.
2:07:53
SPEAKER_02: So which was his choice.
2:07:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes, that was the same.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_02: So the same shit that we rag on women for, hey, uh, why why you have sex with 30 dudes?
2:07:59
SPEAKER_02: Why did you marry that fucking bimbo?
2:08:02
SPEAKER_02: It's the same argument.
2:08:03
SPEAKER_02: She controls sex, so she has the responsibility of that.
2:08:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but uh what I've also said that if the guy lied to her, if you if you tell a girl, baby, I I I had a crazy past, I used to cheat with other cases, but you've changed me, you know, I had this and that.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_04: And you see him coming home, he shares his location, whatever, whatever you need for him to prove that he's not that, and he's showing you all these signs, and then come to find out he got three kids, a big a side chick over here, this and that.
2:08:32
SPEAKER_04: You I I I can't be like, oh, she chose wrong.
2:08:35
SPEAKER_04: And vice versa.
2:08:36
SPEAKER_04: She didn't choose, and vice versa.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_04: If you have a girl who's that choose, though.
2:08:39
SPEAKER_04: And the she still has to say yes to your union.
2:08:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she has to say yes to the relationship.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_01: I thought she do choose in her yeah, she has to choose because she is a full grown adult, and it's like, I'm I'm not forcing her, right?
2:08:51
SPEAKER_01: Plenty of girls say no to niggas.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_02: Plenty of girls be like, uh no, I don't think I don't want a relationship.
2:08:55
SPEAKER_02: But she fucked him, yeah.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, then then we have a name for that.
2:08:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she took an L.
2:09:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, what?
2:09:00
SPEAKER_02: She took an L?
2:09:01
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:09:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's the L?
2:09:03
SPEAKER_02: That she fucked him?
2:09:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:09:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
2:09:05
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that she starts to say yes to, she starts to choose him to be in a relationship.
2:09:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm not blaming the woman for that.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
2:09:12
SPEAKER_02: Listen, again, men control relationships, women control sex.
2:09:19
SPEAKER_02: If a girl gets into a relationship with a dude and he plays her, she got played because she does not control the relationship.
2:09:26
SPEAKER_02: If a man chooses there's a million women in front of him and he chooses this one and she played him, that's on him because he plucked her out of the that girl over there would have treated him right, but he chose that one.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:37
SPEAKER_01: And that's his fault.
2:09:38
SPEAKER_01: I understand what you're saying.
2:09:39
SPEAKER_01: I I put accountability on both of them though.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_01: Because I think even though you you control sex and I control the relationship, obviously you still allow, like again, you still said yes.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:09:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, but I understand the the point that you're trying to convey.
2:09:53
SPEAKER_01: My point is if I'm giving a general advice or taking a general advice to myself, because it might in the marriage thing, I was talking about myself, you know, you gotta you gotta uh like I understand your point about choosing right, but you have to look at the odds, right?
2:10:10
SPEAKER_01: Like you're more than likely gonna end up with one that's gonna do you wrong than gonna do you right.
2:10:15
SPEAKER_01: I disagree with that completely.
2:10:16
SPEAKER_02: I I I think that's a loser mentality.
2:10:20
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, it's not we we go to job interviews all the time and present a person that we are not.
2:10:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:10:25
SPEAKER_04: And it's not all it's not their fault.
2:10:27
SPEAKER_04: How long is it?
2:10:27
SPEAKER_02: How long is a job interview?
2:10:28
SPEAKER_02: AG, you think there's How long is a job interview?
2:10:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like 20 minutes, right?
2:10:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but how long is a relationship?
2:10:34
SPEAKER_02: On the job, you still gotta portray that person.
2:10:35
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so then they won.
2:10:36
SPEAKER_02: The company won.
2:10:38
SPEAKER_02: Until you steal from them, it's not their fault.
2:10:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, damn.
2:10:41
SPEAKER_02: So hold on.
2:10:42
SPEAKER_02: You're using your analogy.
2:10:43
SPEAKER_02: If I got 20 years of production out of somebody and on their 21st year they stole, the company lost something?
2:10:51
SPEAKER_02: Would you say that that he lost something if the if the marriage that's why I think the analogy doesn't work?
2:10:56
SPEAKER_02: A relationship and a company is not the same because this is about productivity.
2:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Really?
2:11:00
SPEAKER_02: And she's at she's you didn't answer my question though.
2:11:03
SPEAKER_02: What if you work in a place for 20 years and you made them 20 million dollars and you stole something on the 21st year, what did they lose?
2:11:09
SPEAKER_02: Whatever you stole.
2:11:10
SPEAKER_02: What did you tell me?
2:11:11
SPEAKER_02: Give me anything.
2:11:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:11:12
SPEAKER_02: Whatever you stole, 10% of whatever you stole is they lost.
2:11:15
SPEAKER_02: How?
2:11:16
SPEAKER_02: How did but they made 20 mil?
2:11:18
SPEAKER_02: And you lost and you and if you stole one, they lost a mil.
2:11:21
SPEAKER_02: But they gained 20.
2:11:22
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:11:23
SPEAKER_02: And then you asked me what they lost.
2:11:24
SPEAKER_02: That's not a loss.
2:11:25
SPEAKER_02: But that's not a loss, though.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_02: Bro, but you could be with a girl for 20 years and she gained.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_02: No, that's why I think that's a bad analogy.
2:11:30
SPEAKER_02: With the woman thing, is it's not what you did for me for the 20 years, it's what you do you're doing for me today.
2:11:35
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with the company.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_02: You buy, you know.
2:11:37
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
2:11:38
SPEAKER_04: See, they're not gonna be like, well, we know we did make 20 out of you, so yeah, keep that milk.
2:11:41
SPEAKER_02: No, they're gonna fire you and be like, well, at least we got 20 mil off of him.
2:11:45
SPEAKER_02: You got that.
2:11:45
SPEAKER_02: And what I'm saying is that in a marriage, you're saying that you'll keep the girl because she's productive.
2:11:52
SPEAKER_02: No, I say I'm telling you that that's a bad analogy.
2:11:55
SPEAKER_02: I don't look at a relationship like a company.
2:11:56
SPEAKER_02: A relationship is like me and you are now one person.
2:11:58
SPEAKER_02: You represent me, I represent you.
2:12:00
SPEAKER_02: We are one item.
2:12:01
SPEAKER_02: So if my left arm and my right arm can't get along, this is not a good union.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_02: That's how I look at it.
2:12:05
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is they need to be harmonious.
2:12:09
SPEAKER_02: Where I'm missing that, my girl needs to plug that in.
2:12:11
SPEAKER_02: And where she's missing that, I'm gonna plug that in.
2:12:13
SPEAKER_02: And that is gonna make us the best workers.
2:12:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying her plug can be an act.
2:12:17
SPEAKER_02: And if you in a 20-year relationship or a 10-year relationship or a six-month relationship or a one-year relationship still decide to marry that woman, I'm blaming the man only.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_02: If she can fool you, then you are a fool.
2:12:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you're not getting married in 20 years.
2:12:34
SPEAKER_01: Vice versus for me, vice versa, if it's the other way around, it also applies to.
2:12:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't apply to the woman because discernment is a little different for them.
2:12:42
SPEAKER_02: She cannot, she can't the power that the man has in a relationship to put his woman through situations, she can't do that to you.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_02: I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is I'm the one that sets a program, right?
2:12:54
SPEAKER_02: So if my program is at 7.15, uh we gotta be out the door, and she consistently shows up at 720, 7:30, 720, and then I still marry her, and my program, she never got with my program.
2:13:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't I'm not blaming the girl for that.
2:13:07
SPEAKER_02: She showed me who she was.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_02: Now, reverse that if this woman is with a guy and his program is 715 and she's just like, I don't like this programming.
2:13:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm I don't want to be in this relationship anymore.
2:13:19
SPEAKER_02: She didn't she doesn't set a program.
2:13:21
SPEAKER_01: The guy does.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_01: I understand that.
2:13:23
SPEAKER_01: But what I'm saying is That's why I don't really blame the woman.
2:13:25
SPEAKER_01: I I think, you know.
2:13:28
SPEAKER_01: I think what you got.
2:13:29
SPEAKER_01: I hold you accountable for, you know, like you're a grown personality.
2:13:32
SPEAKER_02: To an extent, yes, but not to the same level that I would ever hold a man to.
2:13:35
SPEAKER_02: That's just how you, you know, you open your legs with me.
2:13:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm also, you know, in a relationship with you.
2:13:41
SPEAKER_02: No, you opened it before that.
2:13:43
SPEAKER_02: No, then I I would never I would never admire.
2:13:47
SPEAKER_01: My point is you still all right.
2:13:49
SPEAKER_01: What if, all right, cool.
2:13:51
SPEAKER_01: Because you're saying you're not, you don't blame her for the relationship, but what about for the sex?
2:13:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but she got if she if she did this.
2:14:00
SPEAKER_01: What if the relationship was first and then the sex?
2:14:03
SPEAKER_01: No, she's good.
2:14:04
SPEAKER_02: She has a level of blame.
2:14:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying she's blameless.
2:14:07
SPEAKER_02: And that is my point.
2:14:09
SPEAKER_02: 70 to 90 percent because I'm not sure.
2:14:11
SPEAKER_01: But that's no, you're right.
2:14:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my point is though, because you're you you are right, the sermon is different, but my point is still there is a level of uh uh accountability that you should have.
2:14:20
SPEAKER_02: Yes, just you shouldn't just be like, oh, this isn't that you also picked wrong.
2:14:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what yeah, you also could have you gave yourself to the wrong guy.
2:14:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you see that this guy's beating you up, or he beat up his last girl, he's beating you up, and you're still like, yeah, this is a guy I should be with.
2:14:31
SPEAKER_02: That that kind of falls on you.
2:14:33
SPEAKER_02: But ultimately, as the guy, why are you beating up anybody?
2:14:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's where the you know, but my thing is like, because there's been girls, like even online, that like a guy goes on one knee and they like, no, they dub it.
2:14:43
SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
2:14:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, you also have to.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_02: No, you absolutely have an you know agency.
2:14:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm not removing agency.
2:14:49
SPEAKER_02: It's not like you run up on a girl, you're like, aha, I got you, we're married.
2:14:51
SPEAKER_02: That's not how you mine.
2:14:54
SPEAKER_01: But the woman could be what my dad did to my mom, by the way.
2:14:57
SPEAKER_01: He he said, Yo, he went to, he's like, Yo, I'm gonna talk to you, your parents.
2:15:01
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, What?
2:15:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, we're not even we haven't even kids, we're nothing.
2:15:04
SPEAKER_01: Like, we're that's old school.
2:15:05
SPEAKER_01: So he he went to the crib, he walked out of there, she's like outside.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_01: He's like, You mine.
2:15:11
SPEAKER_02: Now, if y'all do get married, shout out to Pops, and y'all do get divorced, she could end up with Greg Popovich.
2:15:19
SPEAKER_02: Just saying.
2:15:20
SPEAKER_02: With what?
2:15:20
SPEAKER_02: Tell her Greg Popovich.
2:15:21
SPEAKER_02: What's that?
2:15:22
SPEAKER_02: Greg Popovich.
2:15:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh Greg Popovich.
2:15:27
SPEAKER_02: That is true.
2:15:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:15:28
SPEAKER_02: Tell her that is true.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_02: Greg Pop, legend.
2:15:32
SPEAKER_02: My man!
2:15:33
SPEAKER_04: Legendary coach, goat, goat coach?
2:15:35
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
2:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Top three.
2:15:37
SPEAKER_04: Top three, okay.
2:15:38
SPEAKER_02: That'll be.
2:15:38
SPEAKER_04: Um he is in the news.
2:15:43
SPEAKER_02: He married, which we don't know how long he was with this girl or dated her, or or courted her, but um, he married her, and she is her he let me let me see if I get this right.
2:15:58
SPEAKER_04: She is his ex-coaching assistant's ex-wife.
2:16:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_04: Woo! So Greg Popovich, um, he had a he had a you know you know the coach's name, the SSH.
2:16:09
SPEAKER_02: Um Bud Budenholzer.
2:16:10
SPEAKER_02: We just call him Coach Bud.
2:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Coach Bud.
2:16:12
SPEAKER_02: He was Coach Bud was his assistant for at least 20 years uh throughout uh his championship Spurs, whatever the case is.
2:16:18
SPEAKER_02: And um, however long ago that assistant coach and his wife split.
2:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Come to find out.
2:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Now, Greg Popovich, who is his longtime head coach, now I will throw this asterisk in there.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_02: They do not speak anymore.
2:16:32
SPEAKER_02: They have they haven't, there's no we don't know if it's bad blood, but they don't they don't no longer really have a relationship in terms of like we hang out, we talk, whatever the case is.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, Greg Popovich is now with that said ex-wife.
2:16:45
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
2:16:46
SPEAKER_02: That's dirty work.
2:16:47
SPEAKER_02: The question for the room is is it nasty work or is it fair game?
2:16:52
SPEAKER_01: I think that's dirty work.
2:16:53
SPEAKER_02: It is absolutely disgusting and dirty, and all of the things you want to attribute to it, but there are no rules in love and war.
2:17:05
SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately for the world, when you you can't tell a nigga who to love.
2:17:12
SPEAKER_02: You cannot do it.
2:17:13
SPEAKER_02: You can tell him who to shoot at, though.
2:17:15
SPEAKER_02: You can't, though.
2:17:15
SPEAKER_02: You can't because you don't love her until you shoot at her.
2:17:18
SPEAKER_02: That's you don't believe in love at first sight, and it don't even gotta be shooting.
2:17:21
SPEAKER_02: What if all the dinner parties they spend together?
2:17:23
SPEAKER_02: He's like, damn, this is a real good quality woman.
2:17:26
SPEAKER_02: That's nasty, though.
2:17:27
SPEAKER_02: It is, dude.
2:17:27
SPEAKER_02: Do you judge that man though?
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: Judge which guy?
2:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Like Greg?
2:17:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
2:17:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm not I'm not removing any of the judgment from her.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_02: It's nasty, it's dirty, it's all of that.
2:17:36
SPEAKER_02: But you got a point.
2:17:37
SPEAKER_02: You that nigga's at home with his girl happy.
2:17:39
SPEAKER_02: Y'all niggas are sorry.
2:17:40
SPEAKER_02: You said it's all is fair.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_02: It is.
2:17:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's fair.
2:17:43
SPEAKER_02: You know why it's fair?
2:17:43
SPEAKER_02: Because again, he's at home with her, laughing, having a good time, chilling, and we are here sitting here talking about nigga right.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_02: I didn't say it was right.
2:17:49
SPEAKER_02: Fair and right.
2:17:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay, fair.
2:17:52
SPEAKER_02: I told you we get into a fight on the street and a nigga punched me in my dick and I lose that fight.
2:17:55
SPEAKER_02: It don't matter what y'all think, I lost that fight.
2:17:57
SPEAKER_02: It does not matter.
2:17:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it was a fair fight.
2:18:00
SPEAKER_02: Whatever you want to say, I lost.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_02: If we go to war, if we go to war with China and we blow up all their water supply and they they lose because we dirty their water, who won the who won the war?
2:18:09
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_02: It don't fucking matter.
2:18:11
SPEAKER_02: Umfortunately.
2:18:12
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that like there was a thing there before prior?
2:18:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, white people get off a little different, bro.
2:18:18
SPEAKER_02: White people are a lot closer.
2:18:19
SPEAKER_02: White people, they they do the wife swaps thing, they do the swinging thing.
2:18:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even trying to put that on them.
2:18:22
SPEAKER_02: I just think it's a bunch of, you know, they their culture is different.
2:18:26
SPEAKER_02: It's a bunch of um dinner parties and you know, nah, but this is not this is still not right in their community.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I don't know if that's true.
2:18:33
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I don't I don't know.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_02: I watch a lot of white TV shows where there's a there's a show that I love.
2:18:38
SPEAKER_02: Um it's a miniseries, because you know you got beat up on that last time.
2:18:41
SPEAKER_02: It's a miniseries.
2:18:42
SPEAKER_02: Um it's called Mayor, Mayor of East Town or something like that.
2:18:46
SPEAKER_02: So she's Easttown, Mayor of King's Center.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_02: No, no, that's a different show.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_02: There's mayor.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_02: No, the the character's name is Mayor.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh it's a it's a weird thing.
2:18:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a whole different show.
2:18:54
SPEAKER_02: But basically on the show, she's a detective and she lives here with her family, and her husband lives behind her and is like dating her best friend or some shit like that.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_02: So her ex-husband is with her best friend.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_02: They're all still friendly, everybody.
2:19:09
SPEAKER_02: So that's just white people's shit.
2:19:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I do believe that in death, like I I'm not mad if my best friend gets with my girl after I die.
2:19:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you said that before.
2:19:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:19:18
SPEAKER_02: But in uh that's a I mean the It's nasty.
2:19:22
SPEAKER_02: It really is.
2:19:23
SPEAKER_02: But again, I'm I'm not like say the time since the divorce matter?
2:19:29
SPEAKER_02: I think everything matters and nothing matters.
2:19:31
SPEAKER_02: I think it's regardless of what you add into it, it's nasty.
2:19:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is what you're saying.
2:19:35
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's just there's a billion other women in the world.
2:19:37
SPEAKER_02: Why are you choosing this one?
2:19:38
SPEAKER_02: But then I can't tell the nigga that nah, this is the one I want.
2:19:40
SPEAKER_02: Because that's the thing.
2:19:41
SPEAKER_02: I when I maybe you just you know why it's nasty?
2:19:43
SPEAKER_01: Because he can't do that and like be cool.
2:19:47
SPEAKER_01: Because it wouldn't be nasty if it's like, oh hey, like they should still be able to get together.
2:19:51
SPEAKER_01: No, but that's not why it's not nasty.
2:19:53
SPEAKER_01: That's not why they're beefing though.
2:19:54
SPEAKER_01: No, I know.
2:19:55
SPEAKER_01: But I'm purely just talking about this.
2:19:57
SPEAKER_01: If we can't, like, you know, if I if I now marry your ex-wife and we can just all hang out and like be cool, then it's nasty.
2:20:06
SPEAKER_01: Then it is nasty.
2:20:07
SPEAKER_01: It's nasty.
2:20:08
SPEAKER_01: Even if we hang out and be cool, you're saying?
2:20:10
SPEAKER_01: No, what I'm saying is if we can't, and most I'm saying, I would assume that's not gonna fly with it.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_02: I think you're wrong, bro.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: I think in the white community, I think in most communities it's like that.
2:20:18
SPEAKER_01: Nah.
2:20:19
SPEAKER_02: But you're saying, but there has to be at least a conversation, is what you're saying.
2:20:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, yeah, there's got there's gotta be at least some type of like I think we are exaggerating.
2:20:29
SPEAKER_02: I think this shit happens all the time.
2:20:31
SPEAKER_01: Now, now wait, wait, wait.
2:20:32
SPEAKER_01: No, because it the thing is it depends on our relationship.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_01: For example, for example, they probably weren't, they could have not been close, close.
2:20:40
SPEAKER_01: No, they were co-workers, but the fact that they were too co-workers for so long.
2:20:44
SPEAKER_01: I got co-workers.
2:20:45
SPEAKER_01: There's gotta be a level of closeness there.
2:20:47
SPEAKER_02: I have some co-workers that I've been like I'm not talking about, like this is also like um NBA coaching.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, we're we're this late nights, we're plotting, we're picking up again.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm not trying to defend his actions, but I have to because we're podcasting.
2:21:00
SPEAKER_02: Now, the guy, the ex the uh the assistant coach could have been slipping, right?
2:21:04
SPEAKER_02: You might have had Greg Popovich at the crib.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't matter.
2:21:08
SPEAKER_02: Hold up, 10 pm.
2:21:08
SPEAKER_02: It shouldn't matter.
2:21:09
SPEAKER_02: It shouldn't matter.
2:21:10
SPEAKER_02: We don't live in a shouldn't world.
2:21:11
SPEAKER_02: We should not live in that type of world.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_02: It's 10 p.m.
2:21:14
SPEAKER_02: It's a late night.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_02: She's bringing drinks.
2:21:17
SPEAKER_01: No, but it's I I think it still doesn't matter.
2:21:20
SPEAKER_02: Like I say, he could have slipped.
2:21:22
SPEAKER_02: For example, I I I saw this question posed on a podcast.
2:21:26
SPEAKER_02: How many guys in your life right now would you let spend two hours alone at your house with your girl?
2:21:33
SPEAKER_02: Why?
2:21:33
SPEAKER_02: No, none.
2:21:34
SPEAKER_02: You're on your way home from work.
2:21:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, all of my friends.
2:21:38
SPEAKER_02: All of your friends.
2:21:39
SPEAKER_02: The people that I call friends?
2:21:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all of them.
2:21:41
SPEAKER_02: You?
2:21:42
SPEAKER_02: So uh give me a number.
2:21:43
SPEAKER_02: How many of those are like five I only have like five friends?
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: What about you, Mike?
2:21:48
SPEAKER_02: Like you say, yo, meet me at my crib, and they're just there for two hours.
2:21:51
SPEAKER_02: Your wife is there, and you don't know what's happening.
2:21:54
SPEAKER_02: Like they're just there.
2:21:54
SPEAKER_02: They're waiting for you.
2:21:55
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I have seven friends.
2:21:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to leave nobody on.
2:21:59
SPEAKER_05: Unless I have ten friends, all ten of them.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_01: The silence.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I mean, that's not really not even Charlie.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_02: Man, don't put him on the spot.
2:22:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm right here.
2:22:14
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what I'm gonna do.
2:22:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I mean you're 10.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_02: No, you're not.
2:22:17
SPEAKER_01: Probably one or two.
2:22:18
SPEAKER_01: Probably one or two.
2:22:19
SPEAKER_01: I just like that like the close, close, close, close ones.
2:22:23
SPEAKER_02: Is Charlie one the hesitation is crazy?
2:22:27
SPEAKER_02: It is.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_02: He is.
2:22:28
SPEAKER_01: No, I think this is I think it's a fair question.
2:22:30
SPEAKER_01: That was supposed to be crazy.
2:22:32
SPEAKER_01: It would depend on what he's about to say now.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, let's see what this is about.
2:22:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, let me see where this is going.
2:22:40
SPEAKER_01: I have left you in my crib with no, you're right, you're right, right.
2:22:42
SPEAKER_01: No, yes.
2:22:43
SPEAKER_01: It happened before.
2:22:44
SPEAKER_01: No, yes.
2:22:44
SPEAKER_01: I would say like, you know, the super close one, but yeah, I'm not really like.
2:22:47
SPEAKER_01: Did he answer my question yet?
2:22:49
SPEAKER_02: He said, yeah.
2:22:50
SPEAKER_02: By me?
2:22:50
SPEAKER_02: You said yes?
2:22:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
2:22:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I said one or two people.
2:22:54
SPEAKER_02: No, that was me trolling.
2:22:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you you have done it, so we already answered.
2:22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one or two people I would probably.
2:22:59
SPEAKER_01: So two out of your 20.
2:23:02
SPEAKER_01: Let's say, yeah.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_02: Now, you he trusts me, right?
2:23:06
SPEAKER_02: Although there's trust amongst all the friends, right?
2:23:08
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, is that like lust and attraction and chemistry, I think comes before.
2:23:18
SPEAKER_02: Like beats trust.
2:23:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, you can yeah, yeah, trust is you trust me, I trust him, but I disagree.
2:23:24
SPEAKER_02: If now you and this his girl just are having a conversation, yeah.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_02: And you just really love how she converses with you.
2:23:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, that doesn't mean that either party has to act on that.
2:23:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, wait, wait.
2:23:36
SPEAKER_02: She's really like, damn, this is she's smart.
2:23:39
SPEAKER_02: Damn, my girl's kind of not this smart, but she's smart, she's she's respectful, she's not flirting, like she's dressed properly, she's she she didn't offer me liquor, she offered me water or juice, you know, like little signs where she's not like trying to put me in a in a whatever mental state.
2:23:56
SPEAKER_02: If you break up with her, and if you leave her, divorce her, I can see I may not do it, but I can see how that guy might be like, he may not have liked it, but she's fired.
2:24:06
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
2:24:07
SPEAKER_02: Why you cannot say that this is that nasty, because you're right.
2:24:12
SPEAKER_02: No, I know that's what I'm I'm arguing your it's nasty point.
2:24:16
SPEAKER_02: It is nasty, it is, but it's not.
2:24:17
SPEAKER_02: It's because it's I keep you can't tell a nigga where and how and who to fall in love.
2:24:23
SPEAKER_01: But this is why I feel like For me though, that's gotta be, you gotta die with that bitch.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_01: That's the only way that that makes it where it's like, all right, cool.
2:24:31
SPEAKER_01: It was it was it happened to be the love of your life.
2:24:34
SPEAKER_01: You can't do that, you can't put caveats on things.
2:24:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you that I if I got with your ex-wife, I gotta now die with her.
2:24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
2:24:40
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
2:24:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm not saying you gotta like now because of this, but I'm saying that that would be the only way that it could feel maybe like, all right.
2:24:48
SPEAKER_04: No, I could have probably just saw what you saw and then eventually divorced her like you did.
2:24:52
SPEAKER_02: To me, the thing that kind of jacking the pop I'm not jacking the is that his wife died.
2:24:57
SPEAKER_01: Because the only I'm only making the excuse for the real novelty, novelty love.
2:25:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, like if it's that where he's like he pop married a woman, right?
2:25:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they married.
2:25:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no.
2:25:09
SPEAKER_02: He's good money in my book.
2:25:11
SPEAKER_02: Personally, yeah.
2:25:12
SPEAKER_02: He's not he's just he's not just is it nasty or not?
2:25:14
SPEAKER_02: No, it's never gonna not be nasty.
2:25:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't wanna that's caveat that's on it is nasty, but again, I'm a firm believer in love and war.
2:25:21
SPEAKER_02: It is what it is.
2:25:22
SPEAKER_02: So it this is a case of love.
2:25:24
SPEAKER_02: This is not a case of lust.
2:25:25
SPEAKER_02: He's not just he didn't just fuck her.
2:25:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:25:27
SPEAKER_02: Because like Tony Parker did this to one of his teammates.
2:25:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he just fucked her.
2:25:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he didn't marry her.
2:25:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't even think he dated the girl.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was a joke.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_02: He just fucked her.
2:25:36
SPEAKER_02: That's that is the most like honor amongst thieves, nasty.
2:25:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, men are supposed to have a code, like that's kind of crazy.
2:25:42
SPEAKER_02: But um, the fact that you divorced her, my wife died, we're all all of us old as fuck.
2:25:48
SPEAKER_02: I just want somebody to spend the rest of my life with, and you like decide to let this beautiful, wonderful woman go, you can't tell him he's wrong.
2:25:55
SPEAKER_02: Another man's trash is another man's treasure?
2:25:57
SPEAKER_02: Another man's treasure is another man's trash.
2:25:59
SPEAKER_02: That's that's life, though.
2:26:00
SPEAKER_02: Because for every girl that niggas is dating, there was a nigga that was like, this bitch is worthless.
2:26:05
SPEAKER_02: And or owe him a conversation.
2:26:08
SPEAKER_02: Are they friends?
2:26:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say they're not enemies.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: Are they friends?
2:26:12
SPEAKER_02: No, they're not friends, but they're co-worker for how long?
2:26:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't owe you anything.
2:26:16
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
2:26:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't owe no, I don't owe you anything outside of respect.
2:26:19
SPEAKER_02: I owe every man respect.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_02: But I think, especially in the public light, I think you should respect and be like, yo, by the way, this is good.
2:26:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm with you, I'm with this, this is gonna come out.
2:26:28
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna ask you questions.
2:26:29
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:26:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, I can see that.
2:26:32
SPEAKER_02: I personally don't know if I would do that though.
2:26:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:34
SPEAKER_02: Again, this is your ex-wife.
2:26:37
SPEAKER_02: How many years do they have kids together?
2:26:38
SPEAKER_02: You think that's on her to tell them, maybe?
2:26:40
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_02: If if I don't know what type of relationship they had.
2:26:42
SPEAKER_02: What if it's his ex because they're thinking you should get drunk every night and beat the shit out of her?
2:26:46
SPEAKER_02: Why why are we even talking to this guy?
2:26:47
SPEAKER_02: He was still a good assistant coach.
2:26:48
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
2:26:49
SPEAKER_02: Gave you five.
2:26:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, he didn't give you five rings.
2:26:51
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nigga, I'm coach pop, nigga.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_02: I gave you a job.
2:26:53
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck, man, nigga?
2:26:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm the nigga.
2:26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:26:56
SPEAKER_02: Mike, Mike won a chip with the Giannis, though.
2:26:58
SPEAKER_02: So Buddha Hose, you want to want a chip of the Giannis?
2:27:01
SPEAKER_02: Mike, any last comments on that?
2:27:03
SPEAKER_01: I think it's I think it's nasty.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:27:06
SPEAKER_02: Um fan of Judge Judy.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_02: Who's not?
2:27:10
SPEAKER_02: Mike, you know who Judge Judy is?
2:27:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:27:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so before you go, we do we have a hypothetical or no?
2:27:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I think we should probably do the hypothetical after this.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_02: Some of the some of the other topics is just gonna have to wait.
2:27:24
SPEAKER_02: Um so I have a clip from Judge Judy.
2:27:28
SPEAKER_02: And this is her stance on America.
2:27:32
SPEAKER_02: Roll it her America.
2:27:36
SPEAKER_00: Next year, and this gets political, which I don't mind.
2:27:40
SPEAKER_00: I have a house and I have a home.
2:27:42
SPEAKER_00: I consider America my home.
2:27:44
SPEAKER_00: America has been good to me.
2:27:46
SPEAKER_00: It's the greatest country in the world.
2:27:47
SPEAKER_00: If you don't like this country, go somewhere else.
2:27:50
SPEAKER_00: Don't come to the greatest country in the world.
2:27:52
SPEAKER_00: The most successful country in the world.
2:27:56
SPEAKER_00: I want to change it.
2:28:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, but don't come into my home.
2:28:05
SPEAKER_00: Don't come into my home and say I want to change it.
2:28:09
SPEAKER_00: I want to change people.
2:28:12
SPEAKER_00: I want you to change certain things.
2:28:17
SPEAKER_00: We are a capitalist country that revered excellence, that revered entrepreneurship, that revered all the things that made us great, that produced an Apple, an Amazon, AI, whether you like it or not, it's there.
2:28:32
SPEAKER_00: It produced the soft vaccine.
2:28:34
SPEAKER_00: It produced the major input in medicine.
2:28:38
SPEAKER_00: And we did that because we encouraged brilliance and excellence.
2:28:42
SPEAKER_00: We gave them those people push me.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_00: They were gifted classes which I know public schools used to have.
2:28:48
SPEAKER_00: That was capital.
2:28:49
SPEAKER_00: Everybody should be equal.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's not equal.
2:28:51
SPEAKER_00: Some people are tall, some people are short, some people are musical, some people are not, some people have big breasts, some people have no breasts, they're different.
2:28:58
SPEAKER_00: Don't come into my house, which is a perfect house, and tell me it looks nice from the outside, but I'm going to change it inside to make it more of what we like.
2:29:07
SPEAKER_00: A more vanilla gray, everything, muted colors.
2:29:12
SPEAKER_00: All right, all right, all right.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_00: We should be living today.
2:29:14
SPEAKER_00: Don't come here to redecorate.
2:29:16
SPEAKER_00: You don't like my house.
2:29:16
SPEAKER_00: Stay in your own house or find a different house.
2:29:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_02: Judge Judy.
2:29:23
SPEAKER_02: By the way, I'll say again, we love Judge Judy.
2:29:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not surprised.
2:29:29
SPEAKER_02: Judge Judy's an old white lady.
2:29:30
SPEAKER_02: And that's how old white ladies think.
2:29:32
SPEAKER_02: That's how old white ladies talk.
2:29:33
SPEAKER_02: We have a phrase for old white ladies called Karen.
2:29:35
SPEAKER_02: She sounded like a quote-unquote Karen.
2:29:37
SPEAKER_02: A lot of stuff she said was correct.
2:29:38
SPEAKER_02: A lot of the stuff she said was inflammatory, a lot of stuff was actually just incorrect.
2:29:42
SPEAKER_02: America's a melting pot.
2:29:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, she's an immigrant, or she's a uh a child of immigrants.
2:29:47
SPEAKER_02: She's not from America because nobody is from America outside of the indigenous population here, which is so far and few that they don't even have real power in this country.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't have power in this country.
2:30:00
SPEAKER_02: So all of the decisions that have been made about America that made it great have came from the people outside of America.
2:30:06
SPEAKER_02: So it just sounds like old racist rhetoric, but some of the stuff she is correct about, I do agree with her with the sense of America has never been about oh, equality.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_02: That is a farce.
2:30:21
SPEAKER_02: America is about coming here, and you can start at the bottom and get to the top, but there's already people up there.
2:30:28
SPEAKER_02: There's some people in the middle, and there's some people that would never get out the bottom.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_02: And that's and that's just it.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_02: That's just the truth of the fact.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't like that the society we we live in is a participation trophy society, like we just heard in New York City public schools, they're eliminating the regions.
2:30:42
SPEAKER_02: You don't need the regions to graduate.
2:30:43
SPEAKER_02: That is just gonna make New Yorkers dumber.
2:30:45
SPEAKER_02: The counter argument to that is that, oh, most colleges don't even recognize the regions, so why make our students study specifically for that, for something that's not national?
2:30:54
SPEAKER_02: But have some pride in New York City kids.
2:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, I know you Texas kids didn't have to pass the regions.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_02: We did.
2:30:59
SPEAKER_02: Why are we losing the pride?
2:31:00
SPEAKER_02: Why are we trying to conform to the rest of everybody?
2:31:02
SPEAKER_02: Why not cream rise to the top?
2:31:03
SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't hurt.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it doesn't hurt.
2:31:06
SPEAKER_02: Whether they whether colleges use it or not, it helps.
2:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I had to study and master this skill, whether whether it's algebra too or geo, uh uh uh geometry, geometry or um whatever.
2:31:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I do agree with a lot of stuff she said, and who gives a fuck?
2:31:21
SPEAKER_02: It's her opinion.
2:31:22
SPEAKER_02: She's an old-ass white lady, and I'm glad that she has an opinion and she can voice her opinion, whether right or wrong.
2:31:27
SPEAKER_02: This is a big nothing burger to me, but society is like, oh, we don't judge Judy was invited to the cookout.
2:31:31
SPEAKER_02: And that's another part of the problem with black people is that you know white people.
2:31:35
SPEAKER_02: All of them, I'm not saying they all think the same or act the same.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_04: Hold up now.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_02: But you can't just be inviting people to the cookout just because you liked that they were on daytime television.
2:31:43
SPEAKER_02: Nah, she held it down for a lot of us on that show.
2:31:45
SPEAKER_02: Hold up.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's called entertainment.
2:31:47
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of Chinequels and Omar's who got a good who got a good shot.
2:31:51
SPEAKER_02: So she made a lot of money by uh using black people as content.
2:31:56
SPEAKER_02: And that for that she's allowed to to the cookout.
2:31:59
SPEAKER_02: That shit is corny, bro.
2:32:00
SPEAKER_02: But shout out Judge Judy, she has an opinion.
2:32:02
SPEAKER_02: I disagree with some of the takes.
2:32:04
SPEAKER_02: A lot of that was- Would you blame the user or the one who was allowed to be who allowed themselves to be used?
2:32:08
SPEAKER_02: You always got a uh the the person in power is who you would blame.
2:32:13
SPEAKER_02: So the use the use.
2:32:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:32:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:32:15
SPEAKER_02: Not the user.
2:32:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:32:17
SPEAKER_02: Unless they had an uh I unless they had a clear, obvious other choice, then no.
2:32:22
unknown: Okay.
2:32:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm with you on that.
2:32:23
SPEAKER_02: Most people that are being used is because they don't have an option.
2:32:26
SPEAKER_02: This is it.
2:32:26
SPEAKER_02: This is the best I can do.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_02: I get it.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I I get I get her sentiment.
2:32:30
SPEAKER_02: It's harsh, right?
2:32:32
SPEAKER_02: Because it's like that's always been her delivery.
2:32:34
SPEAKER_02: Not politically correct.
2:32:35
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
2:32:35
SPEAKER_02: It is a very Judge Judy statement.
2:32:37
SPEAKER_02: That's so she sounded like Judge Judy to me.
2:32:39
SPEAKER_02: Um nothing about that shocked me.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
2:32:41
SPEAKER_02: But America has also, maybe falsely advertised, always always been around about um letting letting people like.
2:32:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you see, we had this argument the other day.
2:32:52
SPEAKER_02: America has a distinct culture, though.
2:32:55
SPEAKER_02: When you come here, you conform to American culture.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_02: The Dominicans that are here versus the Dominicans in DR, are they not different?
2:33:01
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
2:33:02
SPEAKER_02: Why, why is that?
2:33:03
SPEAKER_02: Because they're American.
2:33:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they have certain oh shit, I have rights.
2:33:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, you're not gonna just talk to me any type of way.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_02: It's a thing.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_02: Like, what you call getting Americanized.
2:33:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think it's a thing.
2:33:14
SPEAKER_02: But I also can't move the same way I was moving in DR because I will get either arrested or spoken to or made fun of, whatever the case is.
2:33:20
SPEAKER_02: Like something will happen to me if I move the same way I moved.
2:33:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your environment's different.
2:33:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I America has a culture.
2:33:27
SPEAKER_02: How you define it is one of the hardest things to define.
2:33:31
SPEAKER_02: Because a nigga from Texas and a nigga from New York are two different niggas, but they're both American.
2:33:36
SPEAKER_02: And when they leave this country, they're both American.
2:33:38
SPEAKER_02: And niggas.
2:33:40
SPEAKER_02: I was about to say that flag niggas.
2:33:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, I don't know how you feel about saying that.
2:33:44
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah.
2:33:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh what's up?
2:33:47
SPEAKER_02: Did you see Fat Joe on stage?
2:33:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he muted himself?
2:33:50
SPEAKER_02: Did you see you know the song Lean Back says Oh my niggas don't dance, we just pull up our pants and do the far rock.
2:34:00
SPEAKER_02: He censored it.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_02: He said, All my people.
2:34:04
SPEAKER_02: That was smart.
2:34:05
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:34:06
SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't.
2:34:07
SPEAKER_01: What stage he did that in?
2:34:08
SPEAKER_02: Was state?
2:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Stage.
2:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Stage.
2:34:11
SPEAKER_02: On stage.
2:34:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:34:13
SPEAKER_02: It was a state I don't know exactly.
2:34:14
SPEAKER_02: Why?
2:34:14
SPEAKER_02: Why why you why you think that was stupid?
2:34:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to hear of all my people don't damn.
2:34:21
SPEAKER_02: Bro, you fat Joe.
2:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Say it.
2:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:34:23
SPEAKER_02: You were standing on it.
2:34:24
SPEAKER_02: No, but you think he's going to stop saying the word?
2:34:27
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:34:27
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:34:28
SPEAKER_02: But so why do you do this?
2:34:29
SPEAKER_02: Because he he saw that people were offended by him.
2:34:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh, is it temporary?
2:34:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's temporary.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he just did it for that one show.
2:34:35
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he does it for the rest of his career, but I can promise you he's still gonna say the word.
2:34:39
SPEAKER_02: I think he I I mean he's still dropping podcasts.
2:34:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure he's still saying that.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's just okay, this offends people, so let me just not do it.
2:34:45
SPEAKER_02: I think that was respectful of him.
2:34:47
SPEAKER_02: It was, but on the not on the immature side, I don't want to hear all my people don't.
2:34:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I agree with you.
2:34:52
SPEAKER_02: I need to hear the niggas.
2:34:53
SPEAKER_02: I need to hear the niggas.
2:34:54
SPEAKER_02: And that's why you can still play it and hear the niggas.
2:34:56
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, nah, you know, anyway.
2:34:59
SPEAKER_02: He he he heard us.
2:35:00
SPEAKER_02: I'll say that.
2:35:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:35:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, by the way, um our our illustrious um wait, is that I don't even I don't even know if I'm using that correctly.
2:35:08
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say e-moneybags.
2:35:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:35:10
SPEAKER_02: That's a good trying to get in trouble now.
2:35:13
SPEAKER_02: Um she told us, yo, they they asking about us in um Kentucky.
2:35:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, where?
2:35:18
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Kentucky.
2:35:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, they hit her up.
2:35:21
SPEAKER_02: They said that uh she came, they came across, we came across their timeline and saw her on it.
2:35:26
SPEAKER_02: Shout out, Kentucky.
2:35:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:35:29
SPEAKER_02: Y'all ain't so nasty and nice after all.
2:35:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, actually, might be nice.
2:35:31
SPEAKER_02: Bless your heart.
2:35:32
SPEAKER_02: You want to bring um Bob back?
2:35:34
SPEAKER_02: Bob?
2:35:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not right now.
2:35:37
SPEAKER_02: Racist Bob?
2:35:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:35:38
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
2:35:39
SPEAKER_02: Or maybe for the shout out?
2:35:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybe you just shouldn't have had Bob at all.
2:35:42
SPEAKER_02: Bob was fire.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_02: Not to me.
2:35:44
SPEAKER_02: It was Bob was fire.
2:35:45
SPEAKER_02: Bob was Shack.
2:35:46
SPEAKER_02: Huh?
2:35:46
SPEAKER_02: Bob was Shack.
2:35:49
SPEAKER_02: Fuck Bob.
2:35:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:35:52
SPEAKER_02: Was it Bob?
2:35:52
SPEAKER_02: Is that the name I gave him?
2:35:53
SPEAKER_01: Nah, you said Bobby, Bob or some shit.
2:35:56
SPEAKER_02: It was something.
2:35:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
2:35:57
SPEAKER_02: Something.
2:35:58
SPEAKER_02: My timberlains.
2:36:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:36:00
SPEAKER_01: Is that what you call it?
2:36:04
SPEAKER_02: That was a good sketch.
2:36:05
SPEAKER_02: All right, uh, let's just get to our hypothetical.
2:36:07
SPEAKER_02: What we got?
2:36:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's get out of here.
2:36:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to leave.
2:36:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so which one is it?
2:36:12
SPEAKER_02: X Gifts?
2:36:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:36:13
SPEAKER_02: How did I know?
2:36:16
SPEAKER_02: So I had a dilemma.
2:36:19
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:36:21
SPEAKER_02: Unlike AG, me and Mike have been in past relationships.
2:36:25
SPEAKER_02: I think.
2:36:27
SPEAKER_02: I have been in my share fair.
2:36:29
SPEAKER_02: My fair share.
2:36:33
SPEAKER_02: I have a gift that I received from one of those relationships.
2:36:39
SPEAKER_02: It's an expensive gift.
2:36:41
SPEAKER_02: It's a nice gift.
2:36:42
SPEAKER_02: It's a useful gift.
2:36:44
SPEAKER_02: And it's a gift that doesn't really need to be replaced.
2:36:50
SPEAKER_02: That gift though does have details of me and that said person's relationships engraved in the gift.
2:36:59
SPEAKER_02: Whether it's I don't want to be too specific, but it's whatever it is.
2:37:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm picking up what you're putting down.
2:37:04
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:37:06
SPEAKER_02: If my girl has a problem with it, what do I do with that gift?
2:37:11
SPEAKER_02: My first question is why?
2:37:13
SPEAKER_02: Why does she have a problem with it?
2:37:14
SPEAKER_02: What is her problem with the gift?
2:37:16
SPEAKER_02: I I don't want you using or walking around with a gift that your ex gave you that says, I love you, Charlie.
2:37:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, is it a practical gift?
2:37:25
SPEAKER_02: Like something that I can use that has nothing to do with the girl.
2:37:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's say it's metaglasses.
2:37:31
SPEAKER_02: And no, then I I don't understand why.
2:37:33
SPEAKER_02: I no, I I think she'd be I get it.
2:37:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to sound like a crazy person.
2:37:37
SPEAKER_02: I can understand her being a little bit upset because flip it.
2:37:39
SPEAKER_02: If it was a gift from a dude, but I'm not letting you get rid of a a pair of uh a Chanel bag that a guy bought you.
2:37:46
SPEAKER_02: If if anything, let me boss it up and I'll buy you a better one.
2:37:48
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:37:48
SPEAKER_02: Flip that back.
2:37:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, make the make the buy me a better pair.
2:37:51
SPEAKER_02: When the new meta glasses come out, because there's always a new one with technology, replace it then.
2:37:55
SPEAKER_02: That was my that was my next question.
2:37:56
SPEAKER_02: But for now, I'm wearing these.
2:37:57
SPEAKER_02: That was my next question.
2:37:58
SPEAKER_02: So, like, is the only is can you tell her, well, these are the only ones I got?
2:38:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
2:38:04
SPEAKER_02: So if you don't like these meta glasses, yeah, replace them.
2:38:06
SPEAKER_02: And even then, just don't don't buy me the same exact ones.
2:38:09
SPEAKER_02: Let's just wait till the new ones come out.
2:38:11
SPEAKER_02: What if it's like a chain?
2:38:12
SPEAKER_02: What does the chain have on it?
2:38:14
SPEAKER_02: Is it a girl's face?
2:38:15
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter.
2:38:16
SPEAKER_02: No, it does matter.
2:38:17
SPEAKER_01: Well, let's see.
2:38:18
SPEAKER_01: Well, what I'm saying, no, no, it's it's not even probably engraved.
2:38:22
SPEAKER_01: It's just a chain a girl bought me.
2:38:24
SPEAKER_01: No, a chain, no.
2:38:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm talking about a girl.
2:38:26
SPEAKER_01: What if your girl got a chain that another?
2:38:28
SPEAKER_01: She's wearing a chain.
2:38:29
SPEAKER_02: A guy bought her.
2:38:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:38:30
SPEAKER_02: Chain's a little different.
2:38:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:38:32
SPEAKER_02: Is it it's just a plain chain?
2:38:34
SPEAKER_02: That's a heart.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_02: Locket.
2:38:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, no.
2:38:36
SPEAKER_02: She gotta get rid of that.
2:38:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'll have replaced it with something else.
2:38:39
SPEAKER_02: There's nothing in the heart, though.
2:38:40
SPEAKER_02: It's not like a little bit.
2:38:41
SPEAKER_02: But do you have to replace it with something?
2:38:42
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't, but I will.
2:38:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
2:38:44
SPEAKER_02: But if but it can't, you think you can get off.
2:38:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, I know you missed the man, you probably could, but saying, like, take off the chain and I'm not replacing it.
2:38:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I definitely can get that off.
2:38:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, same.
2:38:54
SPEAKER_02: Is that fair or right?
2:38:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is fair and right.
2:38:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's both.
2:38:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's both.
2:39:00
SPEAKER_02: But it's a chain is different.
2:39:02
SPEAKER_02: But it's not now if it if it was like like like again, like a purse.
2:39:05
SPEAKER_02: But why is a chain not different?
2:39:06
SPEAKER_02: Because a chain is different.
2:39:08
SPEAKER_02: A chain is like a custom-made thing.
2:39:09
SPEAKER_02: The meta glasses, the girl.
2:39:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the girl didn't make the meta glasses.
2:39:13
SPEAKER_04: No, but she engraved I love you, Charlotte.
2:39:15
SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
2:39:15
SPEAKER_02: That's cool, but I'm using I'm not using the function for the I love you thing.
2:39:18
SPEAKER_02: The chain represents their love.
2:39:20
SPEAKER_02: That gotta go.
2:39:21
SPEAKER_02: So if like if she kept uh a hoodie from a dude, that gotta go.
2:39:25
SPEAKER_02: But if a guy if he bought her a hoodie, she can keep that.
2:39:29
SPEAKER_02: So is it a red flag if you go to your girl's house and she has a hoodie in your size?
2:39:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:39:34
SPEAKER_02: What if she says it's her dad's?
2:39:36
SPEAKER_02: Then the flag is gone.
2:39:38
SPEAKER_02: Automatically believe that.
2:39:40
SPEAKER_02: What about I'm not dating a girl like that?
2:39:41
SPEAKER_01: What about what about what about lingerie she used to wear?
2:39:45
SPEAKER_02: That's cool with me.
2:39:46
SPEAKER_02: It's mine now.
2:39:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not checking on that.
2:39:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a lingerie guy, but okay.
2:39:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, Mike, what do you think about the engraving guy?
2:39:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, get rid of them.
2:39:52
SPEAKER_02: No, the engraving.
2:39:54
SPEAKER_02: Like the whatever.
2:39:55
SPEAKER_02: For the gift.
2:39:57
SPEAKER_01: Like your gift?
2:39:59
SPEAKER_02: From her ex.
2:40:00
SPEAKER_01: Or you or yeah.
2:40:01
SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying you're saying like that she has?
2:40:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then vice versa.
2:40:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think um, I think, yeah, for me, yeah, get rid of it.
2:40:10
SPEAKER_01: Get rid of the lingerie, get rid of the bag.
2:40:13
SPEAKER_01: Um you could probably keep it, but I don't want you wearing that.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I gotta do it.
2:40:19
SPEAKER_01: What if it's a car?
2:40:20
SPEAKER_01: She can keep it.
2:40:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, a car is like to be honest, it's a functional thing.
2:40:28
SPEAKER_02: I know, but it is yeah.
2:40:29
SPEAKER_02: Now, if it's a car that's wrapped in like their face and they got pictures, nah, but all of that shit.
2:40:34
SPEAKER_02: But nah, she can keep the car.
2:40:35
SPEAKER_01: Nah, I'm gonna lie, I won't be petty.
2:40:37
SPEAKER_01: Yo, we out to the dealer.
2:40:38
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna we're gonna change the shit.
2:40:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you're gonna replace the car.
2:40:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like, you know, even if it's even if it's uh, you know, uh, like it came from a value that he gave you, but it's not what he gave you.
2:40:50
SPEAKER_01: So it's like when he sees you driving it and you or yourself, you don't have the memories of like there's no attachment there.
2:40:56
SPEAKER_01: You understand?
2:40:57
SPEAKER_02: She can keep the car.
2:40:59
SPEAKER_02: To me.
2:41:00
SPEAKER_02: It's an item.
2:41:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not if the license plate is like uh her and it and this or that.
2:41:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like if it's a lot of like C and M.
2:41:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they gotta change all she has to change all of that stuff, but musical.
2:41:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it changes.
2:41:14
SPEAKER_01: It's actually my car now.
2:41:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm whipping it.
2:41:17
SPEAKER_01: I think it changes from personal, and then on the guy thing, I think um, you know, I I would I would find it respectful for him to like get rid of, you know, whatever as well.
2:41:29
SPEAKER_01: Get rid of.
2:41:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you know, I mean it depends what it is.
2:41:33
SPEAKER_01: Like, I you know, but I'm not getting rid of anything that's because guys are a little bit more territorial than women are, so I feel like the case is different, you know.
2:41:42
SPEAKER_01: But is that true?
2:41:44
SPEAKER_02: What guys are more territorial than women?
2:41:46
SPEAKER_02: In some aspects, okay.
2:41:48
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's always gonna yeah, in some aspects.
2:41:51
SPEAKER_02: But I think both are territorial, but yeah, but just depending on what we're talking about.
2:41:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but with each other, I think the guys is more territorial.
2:41:57
SPEAKER_02: But I think it takes less for us for a masculine guy.
2:42:00
SPEAKER_02: I think it takes less for us to lose interest in a woman than it takes them to lose interest in us.
2:42:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:42:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_02: So I think that kind of wouldn't that make them a little more territorial?
2:42:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, nah, not necessarily.
2:42:10
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:42:11
SPEAKER_02: I think women find reasons to not fuck with a dude, and guys find reasons to fuck with a girl.
2:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:42:16
SPEAKER_02: That's the difference between the two sexes.
2:42:18
SPEAKER_02: That's the that was a bar.
2:42:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:42:19
SPEAKER_02: I stole that from somebody though.
2:42:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:42:21
SPEAKER_01: Probably for me when I said probably for me when I said guys look to qualify.
2:42:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I stole that from him.
2:42:28
SPEAKER_02: Disqualify.
2:42:29
SPEAKER_02: And he stole that for somebody.
2:42:31
SPEAKER_02: So they actually have the better.
2:42:33
SPEAKER_02: And that's and that's how it works.
2:42:36
SPEAKER_02: They actually have the better um like playbook.
2:42:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, they have the better process.
2:42:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because they can be picky.
2:42:45
SPEAKER_02: But yet they don't pick.
2:42:48
SPEAKER_02: They gotta be balanced.
2:42:50
SPEAKER_02: I think I got him.
2:42:51
SPEAKER_02: Mike, I didn't get him.
2:42:52
SPEAKER_02: That was a good callback.
2:42:53
SPEAKER_01: That was a good, that was balanced.
2:42:54
SPEAKER_02: I didn't disagree.
2:42:56
SPEAKER_02: You would have got me if I disagreed.
2:42:58
SPEAKER_02: You disagreed when we were talking about girls picking, and I'm like, you like, no, only the guy picks relationship, marriage.
2:43:02
SPEAKER_02: No, no, she picks two.
2:43:04
SPEAKER_02: Not really.
2:43:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, now it's not really exactly.
2:43:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:43:08
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm on the um, if the if the gift has functionality, keep it on both sides.
2:43:15
SPEAKER_01: Yo, what cook, bro?
2:43:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm this conversation is bringing me back.
2:43:19
SPEAKER_01: I just heard uh two girls talking the other day.
2:43:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, no, it was sorry.
2:43:23
SPEAKER_01: It was a girl and a gay dude.
2:43:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:43:25
SPEAKER_01: And um they talking about, oh my god, it would be so nice if we have if we had a lesbian bar in Hell's Kitchen.
2:43:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
2:43:39
SPEAKER_01: And they just going back and forth, and I guess one of the guys, the gay guy was an owner of a business.
2:43:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because she was like, oh, you should make yours this.
2:43:45
SPEAKER_01: And she's like, he's like, yo, I only got like 12 customers, this and that.
2:43:49
SPEAKER_01: But I think that whole mindset, like they were just going back and forth on that.
2:43:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, bro, we're this is so fucked up.
2:43:55
SPEAKER_01: You feel me?
2:43:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, we, you know, she was speaking of it as if, like, yeah, so cool, so you know, whatever.
2:44:03
SPEAKER_01: And I think everybody should have the freedom to do what they want, but I don't like it when it's like so out there.
2:44:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't like Mike.
2:44:10
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
2:44:11
SPEAKER_01: Everybody should have the freedom to do what they want.
2:44:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, now keep that shit.
2:44:14
SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't want to be near that.
2:44:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, this is the part of podcasts where we can't say things like that.
2:44:20
SPEAKER_02: Because that sounds like that's coming.
2:44:21
SPEAKER_02: It sounds like hate speech.
2:44:22
SPEAKER_04: And um, it's not hate speech.
2:44:24
SPEAKER_04: I just part is that Mike will be at the lesbian club.
2:44:28
SPEAKER_04: He will be in there doing what you might find.
2:44:31
SPEAKER_04: Tell me, turn some shit out.
2:44:33
SPEAKER_02: That's a fact.
2:44:34
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
2:44:35
SPEAKER_02: Baby, you you lost, honey.
2:44:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, baby girl, come here.
2:44:37
SPEAKER_02: Let me show you the way.
2:44:38
SPEAKER_02: All right, y'all cleaned it up, y'all made it funny.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_02: It's getting very discriminatory.
2:44:43
SPEAKER_02: All right, fellas.
2:44:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think we did it this week.
2:44:46
SPEAKER_02: I think we overdid it.
2:44:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_02: This is a long one.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Pause.
2:44:49
SPEAKER_02: You guys enjoy it.
2:44:50
SPEAKER_02: No pause.
2:44:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, can I get a perfect?
2:44:54
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
2:44:55
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna do your perfecto?
2:44:57
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
2:44:58
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