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BODY FOUND! Young Mom of 3 Vanishes, Case Moves From Missing Person to Homicide · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous, young twenty seven
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Speaker 1: year old mom, last seeing going for a walk along
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Speaker 1: Pebble Brook Road in rural Meriweather County. She was never
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Speaker 1: seen again. In the last hours, a major break in
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Speaker 1: the search for Olivia Samantha Vowler. I'm Nancy Grace. This
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius x SEM one eleven. In the
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Speaker 1: last hours, we learn human remains have been confirmed to
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Speaker 1: be that of a twenty seven year old mom, Olivia
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Speaker 1: Samantha Fowler. Take a listen to our friends at w XIA.
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Speaker 2: ELEVENI they just identified human remains as a twenty six
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Speaker 2: year old mother who went missing from Metro Atlanta almost
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Speaker 2: two years ago. So we first told you about Olivia
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Speaker 2: Fowler in August of twenty twenty one, when she went
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Speaker 2: missing from Meriwether County. According to the Sheriff's office, they
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Speaker 2: received a tip and located remains in a ruraled part
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Speaker 2: of the county. Well this past decembery all, this is
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Speaker 2: when this took place, and just yesterday authorities met with
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Speaker 2: Olivia's family to tell them about it. Now, the Sheriff's
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Speaker 2: office says that this case has now shifted from a
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Speaker 2: missing person's case to a death investigation.
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Speaker 1: The family asking they be allowed to grieve with this
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Speaker 1: news and that we be supportive of them at this time.
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Speaker 1: But who killed Olivia? A mother, a daughter, a sister,
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Speaker 1: a grandchild, Her family relling? But how did the whole
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Speaker 1: thing unfold?
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Speaker 3: Take a Listen to Crime on Lines John Lemley Authorities
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Speaker 3: Ryweather County, Georgia or asking for the public's help in
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Speaker 3: locating a missing woman. Twenty six year old Olivia Fowler
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Speaker 3: was last seen on August thirteenth, twenty twenty one. She
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Speaker 3: was spotted leaving a residence near Long Road around two
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Speaker 3: am in the city of Manchester. Fowler was then seen
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Speaker 3: again at ten thirty am walking along Pebblebrook Road in
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Speaker 3: Merriweather County. Fowler was said to be wearing a tidy shirt,
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Speaker 3: white cutoff shorts, and black flipflops. She's approximately one hundred
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Speaker 3: pounds and is five foot two inches tall.
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Speaker 1: This is a beautiful young mom lassie wearing a tied
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Speaker 1: eyed t shirt, white shorts and flip flops. What happened?
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Speaker 1: How could she be there taking a walk and then
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Speaker 1: now she's gone and nobody knows anything with me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of what we know
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Speaker 1: right now. Now you just heard about her going missing.
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Speaker 1: I want to go straight out to her aunt. This
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Speaker 1: is Tamara McCoy. She is the creator of Olivia's Army
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Speaker 1: and you can find her on Twitter at Olivia's Army
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Speaker 1: twenty six. Tamara, and thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: When did you first learn that Olivia seemingly vanished?
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Speaker 4: I was notified on August fourteenth, about three point thirty
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Speaker 4: in the afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Where were you when you got the call?
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Speaker 4: I was actually working in Manchester.
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Speaker 1: Where do you work? I have my own business. I'm
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Speaker 1: a residential cleaner. So you're at your business, you're doing
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Speaker 1: your business and you get a call from who her sister?
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Speaker 1: And what were you told?
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Speaker 4: Dad? Olivia was missing and nobody had seen or heard
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Speaker 4: from her since Thursday?
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Speaker 1: Okay, just what you don't want to hear. Now, you
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Speaker 1: are her aunt. What is your relation? Were you guys closed?
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Speaker 1: Did you speak frequently? Do you know her children?
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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, I actually had custody of Olivia and Rot
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Speaker 4: saying in their younger years, and Olivia and I we've
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Speaker 4: always been really close, kind of estranged a little when
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Speaker 4: our mom, my mom passed away, but we always kept
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Speaker 4: a good connection and I did see her children. I
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Speaker 4: used to keep them for her when she would just
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Speaker 4: need a little break for a day or so.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we were always close. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: some of my favorite memories of keeping my two little nephews.
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Speaker 1: I had already, you know, graduated law school and was
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Speaker 1: working and I would go back home to making Georgia
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Speaker 1: and my little nephews, who lived in at that time
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Speaker 1: Warner Robins. Georgia would be at my mom's for the
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Speaker 1: weekend and she would take them just about every weekend.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like my brother and his wife said,
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Speaker 1: oh please take the children. We wanted to see them,
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Speaker 1: and so they were because the weekend and I would
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Speaker 1: come home from where I was prosecuting in Atlanta and
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Speaker 1: just spend the weekend. And I loved it. And it
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Speaker 1: builds a bond. It's like they're your child in a way, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: And you know, so many years past, I never thought
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Speaker 1: I was going to have children, and I viewed those
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Speaker 1: two boys as mine because I got to spend so
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Speaker 1: much time with them. So you would babysit for her,
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Speaker 1: and you actually helped raise Olivia. I heard you say
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Speaker 1: you had her for a while.
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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, I had. I was there when Olivia was
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Speaker 4: brought in this world. I was there from day one,
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Speaker 4: first six months.
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Speaker 1: She slept in the bell with me and she was
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Speaker 1: my baby. She's my baby. I'm just looking at her
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Speaker 1: right now, and she is gorgeous. That is one. I mean,
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Speaker 1: no victim, in my mind, is any prettier than another victim.
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Speaker 1: But I've got to say she's stunning now. Of course,
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Speaker 1: another side to that, she's out walking and she's alone
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Speaker 1: walking and suddenly goes missing with me is Olivia Fowler's aunt,
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Speaker 1: Tamara McCoy tomorrow, What were you told about the conditions
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Speaker 1: of her going missing.
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Speaker 4: I was just told that she went out on the
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Speaker 4: porch to smoke a cigarette and walked off and never
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Speaker 4: seen again.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there's so many things wrong with that story. I
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Speaker 1: don't know where to start. Let me just straight out
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Speaker 1: to Lisa Daddio, former police lieutenant with a New Haven
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Speaker 1: PD and she's a senior lecturer at the director and
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Speaker 1: director of the Center for Advance Policing. Okay, at University
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Speaker 1: of New Haven. Lisa, thank you, for being with us.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot missing from that story, and it's not
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Speaker 1: Aunt Tamara's fault. She's telling us what she's told. She
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Speaker 1: goes out for a cigarette, and she's apparently going for
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Speaker 1: a walk, and then somehow she just vanishes off the
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Speaker 1: face of the earth. It's hard for me to believe
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Speaker 1: that no one saw a thing.
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Speaker 5: Lisa Nancy, It's really hard to wrap my head around
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Speaker 5: as well, especially in this day and age when everybody's
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Speaker 5: aware of everything going on, and how does somebody just
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Speaker 5: literally disappear walking or even on the front porch of
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Speaker 5: a home having a cigarette. I mean, there's just so
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Speaker 5: many things there that just don't make sense as to
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Speaker 5: how she disappeared.
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm just looking at pictures of her, you know, Jackie,
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Speaker 1: if you looked at her, she looks like some TV
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Speaker 1: star and I can't place.
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Speaker 6: She reminds me of Gabby Patita.
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Speaker 1: She does look a little like Gabby Potato. I was
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Speaker 1: thinking of Catherine is it Hagel or Higel Higel? It
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Speaker 1: looks like she looks like Catherine Heigel And she looks like, oh, oh, okay,
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Speaker 1: my daughter has recently gotten into gossip girls. Have you
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Speaker 1: ever seen that Okay, I know more about it now
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Speaker 1: than I ever want to say. Blake Lively, they're all great, Okay.
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Speaker 1: The mother, the mother of Blake Lively, that's who she
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Speaker 1: looks like. That's who she looks like, except a younger,
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Speaker 1: a younger. Versions she's beautiful. Guys, we're talking to Olivia
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Speaker 1: Fowler's aunt and I have by your name like a
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Speaker 1: mom to Olivia. Yes, ma'am. And the reason I often
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Speaker 1: give they look like X is so people have a
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Speaker 1: mental image and they can't see her missing poster. They
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Speaker 1: have a mental image of Olivia and she's right there
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Speaker 1: in broad Dale light the uh in the morning hours.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Jackie? Is you know what? Let me
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Speaker 1: go to Amanda para Alta joining me, investigative reporter. I
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Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't already go to you. Amanda Parolta
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Speaker 1: is with us with WRBL News three. You can find
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Speaker 1: her on Twitter at Amanda Peralta TV. Tell me about
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Speaker 1: her missing She goes out for a cigarette. She is
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Speaker 1: later seen taking a walk down the street and then suddenly, bam,
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Speaker 1: she's gone. First of all, let's start with the area.
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Speaker 1: Where did this happen? Exactly?
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Speaker 7: So this happened on Pebblebrook Road, which is located in Manchester, Georgia.
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Speaker 5: It's the very rural.
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Speaker 7: Area of small town southwest Georgia. The population is about
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Speaker 7: three nine and eighty two people.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, Amanda, three thousand and eighty two people,
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Speaker 1: nine eighty two, nine hundred eighty two, so about four thousand,
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Speaker 1: and we're talking about Meriwether County, right, Yes, ma'am. That
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Speaker 1: is some of the prettiest country side I think in
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Speaker 1: the world. In Merriweather County. It's I agree, beautiful. And
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Speaker 1: I can tell you we were just in Meriwether County
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Speaker 1: because we took the children camping, the whole shebang where
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Speaker 1: you cook on a fire and hot goals, that whole
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Speaker 1: thing near Pine Mountain, Warm Springs where Roosevelt had the
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Speaker 1: little White House. So we went through Meriweather County to
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Speaker 1: get there, and we all were driving. We were driving
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Speaker 1: on looking and said, this looks like heaven. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if this is what heaven looks like. And that's the
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Speaker 1: backdrop for this girl to just vanish the face of
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Speaker 1: the earth. So Amanda parolter with me, w RB lne's three.
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Speaker 1: Tell me how this went down. She was seen walking
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Speaker 1: in the morning hours, wearing white shorts, a tailight shirt
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Speaker 1: and flip flops.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 7: Yes, so family has confirmed to me and police have
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Speaker 7: confirmed that Olivia was walking down Pebblebrook Road. The last
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Speaker 7: time that she was seen was on the thirteenth, when
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Speaker 7: a DNR Department of Natural Resources officers saw her walking
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Speaker 7: down the road.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, waite hold that thought, Amanda. You know what,
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Speaker 1: Let me go to you. Natalie Kwam is with us.
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Speaker 1: You should know that name, and I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 1: Vanessa gim remember Vanessa, the gorgeous young soldier at Fort
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Speaker 1: Hood who was taken and murdered. And many people think
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Speaker 1: the whole thing was covered up by the military. At
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Speaker 1: the very least, they weren't doing their jobs. Amen, Natalie.
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Speaker 1: It can be found at the whistle blower waw Firm
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Speaker 1: Qwamlaw dot com. Natalie, it's so great to speak to
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Speaker 1: you again. What do you make of what you're hearing
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Speaker 1: right now? I mean, you can't get much of a
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Speaker 1: better witness than an officer with DNR Department Natural Resources.
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Speaker 9: Nancy, thanks for having me on. You know when I
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Speaker 9: read this article that gave me goosebumps when they said
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Speaker 9: they saw her walking. This is the same story we
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Speaker 9: heard with Vanessa when they said they saw her walking
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Speaker 9: across the parking lot. That never happened. No one saw
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Speaker 9: her walking across the parking lot. But it was three
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Speaker 9: guys quote unquote smoking a cigarette that said this. And
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Speaker 9: of course, everybody wants to go with whatever the whatever
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Speaker 9: anyone witness says, when sometimes witnesses are wrong or lying.
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure what happened with Vanessa's case, and Vanessa
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Speaker 9: never walked across the parking lot. Vanessa was murdered, budgeoned
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Speaker 9: dusk in the armory rooms. So those facts didn't help,
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Speaker 9: or I should say those witness statements didn't help because
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Speaker 9: it stopped everybody from looking further out, looking where the
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Speaker 9: problem really was, which was in the armory room, like
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Speaker 9: their news.
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Speaker 1: But I think this is I think that this is
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Speaker 1: very credible because a lot of times people will say, oh,
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Speaker 1: I saw her here, I saw her there. You've got
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Speaker 1: an officer with the Department of Natural Resources seeing Olivia Fowler,
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Speaker 1: and I think that's a pretty darn good witness.
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I'm not doubting anyone's witness statements, but
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Speaker 9: we had three soldiers and through officers seeing you know Vanessa,
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Speaker 9: So again I can't say what's true or not. What
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Speaker 9: bothers me here is?
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Speaker 10: Where is that?
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Speaker 9: Where are the authorities? What's happening you? Like you said,
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Speaker 9: people just don't vanish, No, they don't.
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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace. In the last days, we
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Speaker 1: learned that the body of twenty seven year old Georgia mom,
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Speaker 1: the mother, the daughter, the sister, the grandchild, beloved by
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Speaker 1: so many, these remains have been identified. It hurts for
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Speaker 1: me to even say it. I had such high hopes
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Speaker 1: that she would be found alive. But how did she
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Speaker 1: go missing? Guys? Take a listen in to our friends
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Speaker 1: at WXIA eleven. Olivia Fowler is.
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Speaker 11: The first name listed in the National Missing Person's Database
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Speaker 11: for Georgia. She's the most recent disappearance reported.
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Speaker 1: She's been gone for thirty eight days today. Her baby
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Speaker 1: boy just turned a year old. He's walking. I know
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Speaker 1: Olivia would never just leave her kids.
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Speaker 11: Olivia Fowler missed her son's first birthday since she's been gone.
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Speaker 11: Her grandmother died and Olivia missed her funeral. Her aunt,
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Speaker 11: Tamara McCoy knows Olivia would have been there if there
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Speaker 11: was any way she could.
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Speaker 4: Olivia loves family, loves loves, loves her family.
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Speaker 1: She's a great mother, the biggest heart. Joining me right
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Speaker 1: now our friend from New York psychologist Karen Stark. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at Karenstark dot com as Karen with
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Speaker 1: the Sea. Karen, thank you for being with us. It
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Speaker 1: really hit me when I heard she missed her son's
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Speaker 1: first birthday. Karen Stark, you were with me when I
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Speaker 1: was planning the twins' first birthday. Remember we had it
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Speaker 1: at Moon Soup. It was a playplace for children on
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Speaker 1: First Avenue. Let's see first Yes, first Avenue between fifty
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Speaker 1: six and fifty three. That was their hangout where we
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Speaker 1: would go to mommy and me and Bendi exercise classes.
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Speaker 1: The first birthday, right that was a blowout because you
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Speaker 1: should have seen the outside of that, Karen Stark, because
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Speaker 1: there were there so many strollers of other friend babies.
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Speaker 1: They're outside of Moon Soup. They could not be contained
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Speaker 1: inside a Moon Soup the play place. They blocked the sidewalk.
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Speaker 1: I mean that was a one year old party blowout,
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Speaker 1: let me tell you. And for this young mom to
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Speaker 1: miss her son's first birthday, no, you'd have to pull
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Speaker 1: up my fingernails before I would miss the twins' first birthday.
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Speaker 12: It's not just ju Nancy. I mean, you know more
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Speaker 12: than anyone right that a mom doesn't miss the birthday,
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Speaker 12: a mom well beside that she wouldn't miss the funeral.
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Speaker 12: None of that sounds like the person that she was,
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Speaker 12: and something doesn't make any sense because she really is
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Speaker 12: seeing it seems to me by a credible witness. I
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Speaker 12: do want to say that the family is quite incredible.
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Speaker 12: I love it they put together of Revia's army and
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Speaker 12: that they have that approach that they're going to be
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Speaker 12: fierced about this. It's the best thing you can do
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Speaker 12: in a situation where you feel hopeless and you have
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Speaker 12: no control. So really brather to all of you.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of Karen start, you really hit the nail on
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Speaker 1: the head about victims' families feeling hopeless and not having
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Speaker 1: any control, like there's nothing helpless and hopeless, there's nothing
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Speaker 1: you can do. So to Mary McCoy, mobilized Olivia's Army
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Speaker 1: joining me is someone that knows a lot about that feeling.
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Speaker 1: Whitney Sick, founder president of a Voice for the Voiceless,
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Speaker 1: and you can find her on Facebook, a Voice for
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Speaker 1: the Voiceless inc. On Twitter at true Crime Sister Whitney
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Speaker 1: Way in about that feeling that Olivia's family is suffering
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Speaker 1: right now of hopeless and helpless. There's nothing they can do.
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Speaker 6: A lot of families come to me and they say,
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Speaker 6: I never thought this would happen to me, and now
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Speaker 6: it's happened to me, and I don't know what to do.
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Speaker 6: And that's what happened with Aunt Tammy. She messaged me
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Speaker 6: and said, I saw you share my Olivia. I'd like
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Speaker 6: to talk to you about her. And so we just
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Speaker 6: started brainstorming about Olivia and how to bring awareness. And
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Speaker 6: she was very adamant that she did not just disappear.
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Speaker 6: She wouldn't leave her family, she wouldn't leave her children.
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Speaker 6: And so here we are. We just haven't stopped, and
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Speaker 6: we're forced to be reckon with until she comes home,
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Speaker 6: until we find her.
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Speaker 1: You know, Natalie Qualm is with us. This is the
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer that represents Vanessa Gehan's family. Natalie, How
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Speaker 1: sick does it? Nike you? When a woman goes missing,
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Speaker 1: cops and others say she's just off with her boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: She's found any boyfriend if she just needed time alone,
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Speaker 1: that's all bs, you know.
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Speaker 9: You know, Nancy Luli Evan, some kind of habit is admissible.
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Speaker 12: She wasn't like that before. She never missed first Like I.
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Speaker 9: Agree with all of you. Moms don't miss her kid's birthdays.
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Speaker 9: They don't miss his stuff. And there's a history of it,
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Speaker 9: so it's you know, it's admissible to say that there's
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Speaker 9: no habit of this or she never did that before.
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Speaker 9: So it's shocking that it's And thanks Tammy for you
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Speaker 9: putting together that army, but it's shocking that this is
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Speaker 9: still happening. It's nobody. We're not calling in the forces here,
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Speaker 9: you know. And I saw her her beautiful face, Nancy,
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Speaker 9: I think you were talking about Kelly Rutherfurst.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's her name. That's how she looked like
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Speaker 1: Kelly Rutherford. She's kind of a mix between Kelly Rutherford
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Speaker 1: and Gabby Potato. Get that on your head. That's what
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Speaker 1: Olivia Fowler looks like. Guys, take to listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends at sockx five.
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Speaker 13: The town of Manchester is about two hours south of Atlanta.
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Speaker 13: It was just outside of here, a few miles away
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Speaker 13: that a dn R Ranger provided the last sighting of
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Speaker 13: Olivia Fowler, and that was more than a month ago.
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Speaker 13: It was ten thirds in the morning on August thirteenth
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Speaker 13: that a DNR ranger saw twenty six year old Olivia
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Speaker 13: Fowler walking along Pebblebrook Road in Meriweather County. That's the
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Speaker 13: last known sighting of her, according to law enforcement. And
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Speaker 13: her family.
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Speaker 14: Doesn't have a purse, she doesn't have a phone, she
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Speaker 14: doesn't have her license, she doesn't have a security card,
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Speaker 14: she doesn't have a bag, as far as we know,
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Speaker 14: an overnight bag.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 13: Tamar McCoy, her aunt walks the same road searching for
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Speaker 13: any sign of her niece.
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Speaker 1: Didn't have her purse, her cell phone, her social security
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Speaker 1: her driver's license, nothing that tells me she did not
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Speaker 1: intend to be away for a very long. When I
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Speaker 1: go out on a walk or a jog, I plan
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Speaker 1: to come back. I don't take my driver's license with
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Speaker 1: me for sure, or my Social Security card if I
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Speaker 1: can find it. No, because I'm planning to come back.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Doug Evans Fox five.
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Speaker 13: The Mereweather County Sheriff's Office says Olivia Fowler was last
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Speaker 13: seen wearing a tied I shirt white cut off shorts
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Speaker 13: and black flipflops. The SHARE's office here is asking for
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Speaker 13: the public's help and locating Olivia, saying they have talked
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Speaker 13: to witnesses, conducted ground in their searches, and have followed
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Speaker 13: up on leaves, but she is still missing.
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Speaker 4: Olivia wouldn't go forty days without reaching out her family
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Speaker 4: at all.
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Speaker 13: Olivia Fowler is twenty six years old and the mother
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Speaker 13: of three small children. Her family says her youngest child
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Speaker 13: had his first birthday during her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Straight back out to Tamara McCoy. This is Olivia's aunt
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Speaker 1: that helped raise her. Tamara, you go up and down
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Speaker 1: that stretch of road searching for her by foot. Tell
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Speaker 1: me about it. What is there? Do you pass homes
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Speaker 1: with mailboxes and potentially ring door mail cams? I mean,
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Speaker 1: what kind of area is it?
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Speaker 4: It is a country, rural area, I made. It's a
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Speaker 4: lot of woods, there's houses out there. We actually went
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Speaker 4: out there a few months after Olivia went missing and
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Speaker 4: questioned several of the locals and just trying to see
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Speaker 4: if anybody had cameras and just to see any find
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Speaker 4: out anything. And that's when we found out that none
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Speaker 4: of them had been questioned, and we later on found
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Speaker 4: out that Livia had been seen that same day in
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Speaker 4: the afternoon between three and five at the end of
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Speaker 4: Pebblebrook Road.
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Speaker 1: Wow, so that completely changes the timeline. So she's seen
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Speaker 1: that afternoon between three and five, the very same afternoon
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Speaker 1: that she was spotted that morning. It's very disturbing. Lisa M.
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Speaker 1: Dadio joining US, former police lieutenant with the New Haven PD,
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Speaker 1: now the director for the Center for Advanced Policing in
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Speaker 1: GRAD program. Lisa, why is the family having to go
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Speaker 1: door to door to find out if residents along that
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Speaker 1: stretch of the road have ring doorbells? Why is that happening?
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Speaker 5: It shouldn't be happening. But as we've seen more time
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Speaker 5: than any of us can count, it's always the families
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Speaker 5: who are going a thousand steps ahead of law enforcement
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Speaker 5: in a lot of cases to really look for information
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Speaker 5: pertain they're loved ones. The reasons. You know, I don't
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Speaker 5: want to make excuses for a law enforcement agency, but
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Speaker 5: it could be staffing, it could be other cases.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Lisa, Daddy,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you throwing the local police and sheriffs a bone,
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Speaker 1: but Meriwether County is extremely rural. You just heard the
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Speaker 1: county Sea has about four thousand people. They are not
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Speaker 1: inundated with murder cases. Okay, thanks for trying to cover
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Speaker 1: for them, your fellow brethren in the law. But that's
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Speaker 1: total bs and I'm calling you on it. What about it? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're called Whitney joining US founder president Voice for the Voiceless.
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Speaker 1: Why is the family out trying to get ring camera?
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Speaker 6: That's a great question. An I've seen Aunt Tammy knee
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Speaker 6: deep in mud and fix and holes in the woods,
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Speaker 6: out in the middle of nowhere looking for Olivia and
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Speaker 6: no law enforcement in sight. I wish that they would
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Speaker 6: do more. They say that they're working diligently on it.
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Speaker 6: I haven't seen any wide skille searches or flyers or
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Speaker 6: things like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't either. Tamara McCoy, you're Olivia's aunt. What
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Speaker 1: is happening? Why are you the one out rewalking the
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Speaker 1: scene in the mud and going door to door trying
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Speaker 1: to get ring camera video?
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean they just kept saying that she might
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Speaker 4: be taking a break, a break from.
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Speaker 1: What, I don't know, life.
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Speaker 13: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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Speaker 4: She was ignored for thirty eight days before she was
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Speaker 4: actually taken.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, question to you who actually fixed their mouth to
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Speaker 1: say she might be taking a break? Who said that?
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Speaker 1: And Meriwether County Chief Hadlee in Meriweather, Canada being the
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Speaker 1: Meriweather Sheriff's office said she might be taking a break. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Now like Kwam, does it never end? Because that's what
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Speaker 1: they said about Vanessa Gham before her burned, dismembered body
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Speaker 1: was found what was left of it? Yeah, she was
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Speaker 1: taking a break, all right, right, in the same.
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Speaker 9: Kind of fact she didn't take her driver relation. Since
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Speaker 9: you're right, Nancy, when people go missing, we'll have about this.
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Speaker 9: When people want to go take a break, or they
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Speaker 9: want to leave, or they want to get away or something.
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Speaker 9: They're taking their things with them. They're going away, they
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Speaker 9: planned this. They don't leave with nothing. I mean, that's
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Speaker 9: just not how it works.
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Speaker 6: The problem is once this narrative is released by law enforcement,
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Speaker 6: it tells the public don't worry. And so here we
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Speaker 6: are left with everyone not worrying but us, the family
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Speaker 6: and hopefully a few people in the army that we've.
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Speaker 1: Built and Amanda Peralta joining US investigative report wrbl. What
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Speaker 1: does the sheriff have to say about this asinine statement?
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Speaker 1: Maybe she's taking a break now.
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Speaker 7: He did not say that directly to me.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure were you holding a microphone when you talk
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Speaker 1: to him?
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Speaker 13: Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: So what are they saying?
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Speaker 7: As far as what I As far as what I know,
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Speaker 7: there have been over twenty search warrants executed, and multiple
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Speaker 7: counties and states have been searched, and there have been
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Speaker 7: land and air operation.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that is heartening, That is very heartening, Amanda Peralta.
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Speaker 1: When may I ask where those searches initiated? How far
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Speaker 1: into her being missing? Did we have a search and
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Speaker 1: do not have a specific d R? Okay, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: glad to hear that. That makes me feel a little
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Speaker 1: bit better. What about Tamara? When did they start performing
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Speaker 1: air searches? I haven't heard.
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Speaker 4: I just heard a helicopter was going through the town,
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Speaker 4: but I was told they were looking for someone that
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Speaker 4: was stealing from lawn Moor's or something, but I didn't
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Speaker 4: know that it was anything to do with Olivia. I
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Speaker 4: haven't seen him do any searches, and I've planned searches
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Speaker 4: weekly all the time, and you know, with only three
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Speaker 4: and four ten.
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Speaker 1: People at the most have showed up and yeah, I
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Speaker 1: grew up in this town, and you know this is
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Speaker 1: my hometown.
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Speaker 4: And when the cheap the sheriff of the town tells
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Speaker 4: you let me know when you find her, then that
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Speaker 4: shows you that there's issues.
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Speaker 1: Did the sheriff say that Chuck Smith did? Who is
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Speaker 1: Chuck Smith? He's the chief sheriff. He's the sheriff of
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Speaker 1: the county jail. What's his name again? What is his name?
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Speaker 1: Chuck Smith? He is the what he runs the county jail?
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Speaker 1: Let me know when you find her. Yes, ma'am. Guys,
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Speaker 1: this young mom missing and the days are ticking by.
27:56
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at WSBTV.
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Speaker 10: They're worried, of very worried that something terrible may have
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Speaker 10: happened to her. That's why they're very relieved to hear
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Speaker 10: that investigators here at the FBI have been working on
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Speaker 10: this case. They hope they might be able to find
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Speaker 10: the answers they've been waiting nine months for.
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Speaker 9: Definitely, falplay was definitely involved.
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Speaker 10: Yes, The family of twenty seven year old Olivia Fowler
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Speaker 10: fears something awful happened. Her mother and sister told us.
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Speaker 10: They're worried someone may be holding Olivia against her will.
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Speaker 1: She's somewhere where she can't get to us. She somewhere
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Speaker 1: she can't get to a phone. Someone's told in her
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Speaker 1: is how I think.
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Speaker 15: I just feel that something wrong or something bad's happened.
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Speaker 10: We went to the rural road in Meriweather County where
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Speaker 10: Olivia was last seen in August of last year. It's
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Speaker 10: here along Pebblebrook Road in Manchester where a witness spotted
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Speaker 10: Olivia walking then she seemingly vanished.
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Speaker 4: I believe that she had been walking and someone picture
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Speaker 4: that wasn't.
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Speaker 1: The right people. Someone picture up that wasn't the right people.
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Speaker 1: Okay to Tamara McCoy, why do you believe that? Because
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Speaker 1: we did.
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Speaker 4: Also have a tip that Olivia was seen at the
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Speaker 4: end of in that same area talking to a four
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Speaker 4: door Sedan gray or Tan, and that she got in
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Speaker 4: the vehicle, and law enforcement said that the guy that
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Speaker 4: reported the tip was did it make sense?
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Speaker 1: What about that didn't make sense? I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I guess the way he talked his country, you know,
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Speaker 4: and maybe not clear enough for him.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Well, I hardly think that a rural
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Speaker 1: background makes you a moron.
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Speaker 4: I agree, he's actually this gentleman. He reaches out frequently
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Speaker 4: just to see if we've heard anything, and just wonders
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Speaker 4: why nothing has been done.
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Speaker 14: And you know, I even sent him a picture of
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Speaker 14: a couple vehicles possibly could have been it, and he
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Speaker 14: actually recognized.
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Speaker 9: Him a couple.
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Speaker 1: What kind of car? Does he think it was? A
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Speaker 1: Ford Focus Ford Focus Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Ella.
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Speaker 1: Law enforcement has announced that human remains found have been
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Speaker 1: confirmed to be that of twenty seven year old mom
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Speaker 1: Olivia Samantha Fowler lasting walking along pebble Brook Road in
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Speaker 1: rural Meriweather County. How has this happened? Guys? I want
30:44
Speaker 1: you to take a listen to our friends at crime Online.
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Speaker 15: The last known credible sighting of Fowler was by a
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Speaker 15: Georgia dn R officer on Friday. He reported seeing Fowler
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Speaker 15: walking along pebble Brook Road in Meriweather County. Investigators began
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Speaker 15: canvassing the area, falling up with witnesses besides the DNR
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Speaker 15: officer who reported seeing Fowler. Ground and aerial searches were conducted,
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Speaker 15: even outside the county and state Canaine. Searches were conducted
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Speaker 15: and more than twenty search warrants executed, but there are
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Speaker 15: no leads. The FBI is now joined in the search.
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Speaker 15: Fowler's family also launched a social media campaign on Facebook
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Speaker 15: hashtag bring Olivia Home to help find her.
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Speaker 1: Now, what do we know about the night before she
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Speaker 1: is seeing for the last time? Take a listener our
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Speaker 1: friends at WXIA eleven.
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Speaker 11: Olivia was reported missing after seeing a man she was dating.
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Speaker 11: According to her aunt. Police have not named him as
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Speaker 11: a suspect and reported she went missing wearing a tank
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Speaker 11: top and flip flops. McCoy drives around in their hometown
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Speaker 11: in Meriweather County endlessly looking for her niece.
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Speaker 1: I got her clothes in the backseat of my car.
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Speaker 3: I've had him riding around with him.
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Speaker 8: For four weeks now because what AD says, she had
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Speaker 8: no shoes and only a tank talk.
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Speaker 1: So I will make sure she's got what she needs.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing the voice of Olivia's aunt. This is
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Speaker 1: Tamara McCoy. Tamara, you just says something that reminds me
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Speaker 1: of Beth Holloway. That's Natalie Holloway's mother. She and I
32:16
Speaker 1: recently went back to Aruba to retrace Naalie's steps and
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Speaker 1: see if we could generate more leads and her disappearance.
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Speaker 1: I believe her murder. And she told me that for
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Speaker 1: I think ten years after Natalie went missing, she never
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Speaker 1: went anywhere without Natalie's passport because she held out hope
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Speaker 1: that Natalie had been kidnapped and sold into the sex
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Speaker 1: trade and that she would be found alive in some
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Speaker 1: other country and would need her passport. And here I
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Speaker 1: am hearing that you ride around with Olivia's clothes in
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Speaker 1: the backseat of your car in case she needs them
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Speaker 1: when you find her.
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Speaker 8: Well, she's tiny, and I know if she's out there,
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Speaker 8: she's cold, and she's got no shoes, and I know
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Speaker 8: they set a tank top and shorts, and I was
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Speaker 8: just she doesn't have her stuff and I just felt
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Speaker 8: like I wanted to have it when I found her.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Caitlin ross.
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Speaker 11: Meriweather County police told Living Alive, Olivia's case is open
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Speaker 11: and they are actively searching for her, but did not
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Speaker 11: share any new information.
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Speaker 4: We've followed leads, we've organized searches, we've got flyers out,
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Speaker 4: and you spent thirty eight days Today.
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Speaker 11: McCoy says she's holding out hope that Olivia is alive,
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Speaker 11: that she'll come back to her family.
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Speaker 1: Her last words is I love you at all my heart.
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Speaker 11: Tamara says she tells Olivia's children every day how much
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Speaker 11: their mom loves them, and then if she could be,
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Speaker 11: she would be there with them.
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Speaker 1: Right now to Karen Start joining us renowned psychologists joining
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Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan at Karenstart dot com. Karen. Unless
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Speaker 1: we solve this case, these children may grow up buying
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Speaker 1: into what the sheriff said if she just took a break.
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Speaker 1: Unless we solve this case, the rest of their lives
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Speaker 1: are going to be played with abandonment.
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Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, not just abandonment, but grief over the loss
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Speaker 12: and not knowing. That's the key ingredient here, is that
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Speaker 12: you never get to know what happened, and so that
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Speaker 12: just leaves you in the state where you're searching.
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Speaker 1: You're searching.
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Speaker 12: I think the great example is you're driving around with
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Speaker 12: clothes in the car, I mean hoping, and you don't
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Speaker 12: give up hope. And that's not okay to spend your
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Speaker 12: whole life hoping that somehow your mom who disappeared will
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Speaker 12: show up again. It's heartbreaking to.
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Speaker 1: Think that, Wow, my mom just got tired of us.
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Speaker 1: Was that my fault? He just left? What more do
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Speaker 1: we know? Take a listen to our friends at crime online.
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Speaker 15: On Thursday, Olivia Fowler stated at her boyfriend's house in Manchester, Georgia.
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Speaker 15: It's a small town about two hours south of Atlanta.
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Speaker 15: The boyfriend tells Olivia's sister, Roxanne, as he went to
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Speaker 15: bed that night, Olivia said she would be outside on
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Speaker 15: the porch for a bit. When he woke up, Olivia
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Speaker 15: was gone. Witnesses reported seeing Fowler walking in the community
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Speaker 15: early that Friday morning. A Georgia Department of Natural Resources
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Speaker 15: officer reported seeing her walking at ten am. On Saturday,
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Speaker 15: Roxanne Fowler's mother called and asked if she had talked
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Speaker 15: with Olivia. When no one can find Fowler, a missing
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Speaker 15: person report was filed.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell me about the boyfriend that was
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Speaker 1: with her the night before? I know, she was saying,
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Speaker 1: after the night she spent at his place, But what
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Speaker 1: can you tell me about him? Has he been ruled out? No, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: he hasn't.
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Speaker 14: He was actually never labeled as a person of interest,
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Speaker 14: but they did have a history of domestic altercation with
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Speaker 14: him and Olivia and two other gentlemen where he was
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Speaker 14: holding her against her will. I was able to retrieve
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Speaker 14: some messages between the two of them where he made
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Speaker 14: a comment, You'll walk away one day and never be
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Speaker 14: seen again.
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Speaker 1: And he was never labeled a person of interest, no, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: They questioned him.
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Speaker 14: They said that he just said he went to sleep
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Speaker 14: and when he woke up, she was gone.
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Speaker 1: After that hot day in August, Olivia Samantha Fowler was
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Speaker 1: never seen again and now her family really devastated with
36:34
Speaker 1: the news her remains have been identified. Take a listener
36:38
Speaker 1: our friends at WSB TV.
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Speaker 16: Back then, her mother and sister told investigators they suspect
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Speaker 16: it thou play. More than a year later, in December
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Speaker 16: of twenty twenty two, human remains were found in Meriweather County,
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Speaker 16: but not identified until now to be Olivia Fowler. The
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Speaker 16: county is now classifying this once missing person case as
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Speaker 16: a death investigation, telling us there is still evidence to
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Speaker 16: be analyze and process before releasing any other details. The
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Speaker 16: FBI says it will continue to work with Meriwether County
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Speaker 16: to help solve this case for the Fowler family.
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Speaker 1: As it stands at this hour, no arrest made in
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Speaker 1: the death of missing mom Olivia Samantha Fowler. We wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Good Bye, friend,