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Katie Woolf spoke with Member for Araluen Robyn Lambley · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now joining us on the line right now is Robin Lamley,
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  Speaker 1: the Independent member for Ara lun Good morning to you, Robin.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Good news about COVID, well good news.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no new cases.
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  Speaker 1: So let's hope that you know, as we as we
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  Speaker 1: sort of hear from the Chief Minister more extensively at
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  Speaker 1: that press conference, that we can find out and get
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  Speaker 1: a bit more detail about all of those close contacts
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  Speaker 1: and all of those casual contacts as well. Whether they've
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  Speaker 1: all been tested now so to Time will tell, Robin.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to talk to you about a situation
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  Speaker 1: that unfolded yesterday and Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that.
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  Speaker 1: You know that there was apparently a vehicle that was
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  Speaker 1: driving through what is a pretty busy car park there
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  Speaker 1: in Alice Springs, ramming into other vehicles and did they
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  Speaker 1: actually hit other people as well?
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  Speaker 2: They didn't. The car that was driven didn't hit a
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  Speaker 2: human being that had hit multiple vehicles allegedly. I'm in
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  Speaker 2: lockdown in Darwin. Wasn't there, but I've heard from many
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  Speaker 2: sources that it was just horrific. There were people flying everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: people screaming and yelling, the sound of metal crushing screeching ties.
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  Speaker 2: This was an outrageous, horrific incident that occurred twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hours ago in the Coles Car Park in Ala Springs.
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  Speaker 2: They then went on into other streets of the CBD
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  Speaker 2: and I think allegedly ran into other vehicles. But this
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely horrific what took place yesterday in Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 2: Someone was hurt, they got tin between cars because of
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  Speaker 2: that car ranning into another car. A lady, a lady
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  Speaker 2: in her sixty she was hospitalized. I understand she's okay,
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  Speaker 2: but people could have been killed, Katie. It was like
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  Speaker 2: you see on TV. Remember the Burke Street attacked here
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  Speaker 2: several years ago in when people died. That's what happened
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  Speaker 2: in Alice Springs yesterday, twenty four hours ago. And we've
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  Speaker 2: heard absolutely nothing from the Chief Minister or any other minister,
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  Speaker 2: nor the police commissioner. I'm just beside myself, Katie. This
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  Speaker 2: is just not good enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Rob and I see that now, just I think.
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  Speaker 1: In the last ten minutes, the Northern Territory Police have
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  Speaker 1: issued a press release saying that they've charged a man
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  Speaker 1: in relation to a number of dangerous driving incidents in
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  Speaker 1: Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So a nineteen year old was allegedly driving around Alice Springs,
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  Speaker 1: CBD in a Ford Falcon while intoxicated. He allegedly entered
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  Speaker 1: a supermarket car park, as we've now discussed, pushing it
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  Speaker 1: into a female vehicle, a female's victim, sorry, who sustained
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  Speaker 1: minor injuries. He then continued to drive erradically, colliding with
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  Speaker 1: a number of vehicles as you've described. His vehicle broke down,
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  Speaker 1: apparently on Palm Circuit, where he was arrested by police.
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  Speaker 1: He underwent a breath analysis, providing a high range reading
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  Speaker 1: of zero point one point.
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  Speaker 3: Nine to eight percent.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: He's been charged now with a number of offenses, two
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  Speaker 1: counts of not stopping after a crash, one count of
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  Speaker 1: recklessly endangering serious harm, one of high range brec one
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  Speaker 1: of driving a vehicle in a manner dangerous, as well
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  Speaker 1: as entering an intersection with against a red light, and
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  Speaker 1: driving a motor vehicle while unlicensed.
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  Speaker 2: Robin.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds quite terrifying. Actually what unfolded.
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  Speaker 2: People were terrifying, Katie. People were screaming, telling people to
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  Speaker 2: get out of the way, moves looking for safety. It
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  Speaker 2: was like a scene out of a terror incident. It
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  Speaker 2: was a terror incident. It was terrifying, and we've heard
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  Speaker 2: nothing from the government, nothing from anyone in a leadership position.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it didn't even happen. If you don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, it didn't happen. I am just beside myself.
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  Speaker 2: What more can I do as a local member of
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  Speaker 2: Parliament to make this government respond to what's happening in
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  Speaker 2: Alice Springs. They are not easy fixes. We hear these
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  Speaker 2: motherhood statements in Parliament telling us how difficult it is
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  Speaker 2: and how much money they're spending on different strategies, but
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  Speaker 2: things are getting worse. Katie, and what happened in yesterday
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  Speaker 2: really beggars belief. It should be it should have been
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  Speaker 2: on the front page of every paper in Australia what
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  Speaker 2: happened in Alice Springs. Yes, it wasn't. It didn't get
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  Speaker 2: courage from the NT News. I don't think the ABC
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  Speaker 2: ran it. I think Alice Springs News Online, the local
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  Speaker 2: online newspaper. They've done a story now and twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hours later, you're talking about a press release that the
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  Speaker 2: police have just put out. We are the Paul Cousins
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  Speaker 2: fifteen hundred kilometers down the track. Katie. And this is
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  Speaker 2: a classic example, Robin.
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  Speaker 1: I know this morning you have now written to the
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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister, haven't you. What are you asking for from
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  Speaker 1: the Chief Minister in this letter?
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  Speaker 2: Very simply, we need help. We need them to take
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  Speaker 2: a deeper look into the problems in central Australia. I
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  Speaker 2: mean there was a man was killed less than two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago on the rough Highway near where these young
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  Speaker 2: people were picked up. Yesterday the culprits. Yesterday a man
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  Speaker 2: was killed about one hundred meters down the road from there,
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  Speaker 2: an alleged hit and run. Less than two weeks later,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about the most horrific scene you could probably
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  Speaker 2: imagine in the Coles car park of Alice Springs. I'm
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  Speaker 2: simply asking for the Chief Minister, the Minister for Police
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  Speaker 2: and the Anti Police Commissioner to help us to look
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  Speaker 2: at what's going on here. We can't have this so
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  Speaker 2: of inaction that we're seeing at the moment. The police
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  Speaker 2: were there within five minutes yesterday. They did the best
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  Speaker 2: possible job they could do. They cordoned it off. It
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  Speaker 2: was a crime scene. There were cars littered everywhere that
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  Speaker 2: was smashed into. They did a good job, but we
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  Speaker 2: need leadership. We need a whole of government, whole of
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  Speaker 2: community response to what's happening in Alice Springs. Otherwise people
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  Speaker 2: are going to just pack their bags and leave this
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  Speaker 2: poor woman who was made or hurt yesterday. I saw
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  Speaker 2: a post online she said, I've lived in town for
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  Speaker 2: more than thirty years. I've grown my children up here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm at my witsand that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Robin, you sound absolutely exasperated.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is probably one of the worst situations I've
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  Speaker 2: ever had to talk about. I mean, there could have
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  Speaker 2: been multiple people killed yesterday, Katie. It's so serious, and
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  Speaker 2: yet no one has even bothered to address the community
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  Speaker 2: of Alice Springs. Yeah. I haven't met my wit Jen,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, what can I do. I've gone on Katie
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  Speaker 2: Wolf's program to beg for some attention.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Robin, I tell you what you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, honestly, as you know, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll always have you on the show. There is no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about that. We love having you on and we
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  Speaker 1: always want to make sure that Alice Springs is not forgotten.
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  Speaker 1: We are a whole northern territory. We're not just a Darwin.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we cannot forget about our friends in.
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  Speaker 2: Ourice thank you. But if this happened in the Nightcliff
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  Speaker 2: Shopping Center car park, there would be a different response. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can guarantee it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you are and you're right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, we can't sort
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  Speaker 1: of just go all right, well it's beyond the bear
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  Speaker 1: of the line.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't see it, so we didn't know that it happened.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I'm heavily reliant on people like you telling
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  Speaker 1: me what's going on in Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 3: But to me, I just think this is mortifying.
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  Speaker 1: You know what if you're at the shops, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when my kids were a little light, have gone to
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  Speaker 1: the shops at ten thirty in the morning with my
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  Speaker 1: two little kids to go and do the food shopping.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it does make you wonder how, Peter you.
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  Speaker 2: Are feeling safe? Yeah, you think you're safe. Obviously, we
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  Speaker 2: cannot shop during the day or night safely in Alice
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  Speaker 2: Springs anymore. I go to the Coal supermarket regularly. My
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  Speaker 2: office is within a stone's throw of the coal supermarket.
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  Speaker 2: We all do. We've got the choice of two supermarkets
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  Speaker 2: in Alice Springs, were worth or coals. Look, it is
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  Speaker 2: such a serious incident that unfolded yesterday. I just hope
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  Speaker 2: that the Chief Minister can drag himself away from what
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  Speaker 2: is very important work with this lockdown, this COVID crisis
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  Speaker 2: we're experiencing, and address the crisis in Alice Spring.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty fair call and a fair
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  Speaker 1: thing that you're asking there, Robin. You still are you
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  Speaker 1: stuck in Darwin at the moment, Robin, Because if you are,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get you back on for the week that was.
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  Speaker 3: If you're still here on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping I won't be on Friday, Katie. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: the lockdown will be living. We'll live tomorrow, if not
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  Speaker 2: earlier possibly, And I'm on the first plane home. Can't
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  Speaker 2: you get home? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: To your electorate and you were, yeah, you were anticipating
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  Speaker 1: that Parliament was going to sit this week. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know now what's going to happen in terms of parliament
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  Speaker 1: being rescheduled. Do you think that these days need to
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  Speaker 1: be made up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they should be, but they won't be this time
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  Speaker 2: last year or early in twenty twenty when we had
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  Speaker 2: the lockdowns, they weren't rescheduled they were just canceled and
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  Speaker 2: that was it. There's no reason why we couldn't have
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  Speaker 2: sat this week, really, Katie, I mean that the federal
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  Speaker 2: government's been sitting. There's one case in the territory. It
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  Speaker 2: could blow out, It could have blown out to be
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  Speaker 2: a major crime. But we could have socially distanced, had masked.
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  Speaker 2: Parlaman House is a big complex. We could have done
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  Speaker 2: it very, very safely. I think this is all a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a way in which the government can escape scrutiny.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, I agree with the opposition leader Leah. I
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  Speaker 2: think you know this is just working in so well
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  Speaker 2: to them avoiding scrutiny.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Robin Lamley, we always appreciate your time. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for letting us know what's going on in
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  Speaker 1: Allie Springs. As I say, you know, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: been aware that that had happened, so I always appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you getting in contact and letting me know what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you