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Taking the Official "Ambivalent Sexism Test" to Find Out if we're cooked | Maintaining Frame 181 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, and we're live. Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey
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  Speaker 1: Badger Radio. My name is Brian, and I here with
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  Speaker 1: Alison and this is maintaining frame number one eighty one
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  Speaker 1: taking the official Ambivalent sexism tests to find out if
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  Speaker 1: we're cooked.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I get a perfect score.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to try and ace this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah what means but it means that we are one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and ten misogynists. I hope I can better score
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  Speaker 2: than Brian. That's all I'll say.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess we'll find out. Oh. I
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  Speaker 1: say this is a competition, but I really enter one
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  Speaker 1: entry bringing.
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  Speaker 2: The toxic masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Where's my cigar. There's my cigar and.
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  Speaker 2: Scotch or you could have a pipe go for the eeriad.
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  Speaker 1: Toxic, more patriarchal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, more patriarchal.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care.
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  Speaker 1: So before we do, though, I did get a super
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  Speaker 1: chow late last night and figured I'd read it because
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  Speaker 1: I based on when I skimmed it, it doesn't look
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  Speaker 1: like it applies to any specific show we did, so
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  Speaker 1: this might just be fine here so interesting Trivia gave
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  Speaker 1: us a five dollars superchow and said, I sometimes see
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  Speaker 1: posts from Chinese social media apps about dating and relationships
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  Speaker 1: in China. For example, I saw a recent post that
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  Speaker 1: pointed out that women will initiate divorces because their single
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  Speaker 1: or divorce friends suggest that they can do better than
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  Speaker 1: their current husbands, or that their husbands are a drag
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  Speaker 1: on the wife's independence. Surprisingly, the comments often point out
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  Speaker 1: how other womanisms that overlap quite a bit with what
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  Speaker 1: red Pillars know about women over here, female nature crosses nations. Coffee, coffee,
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  Speaker 1: Like he wants to put a coffee emoji, We'll give
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  Speaker 1: him a coffee emoji. If you guys are watching, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's like this is the the I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say it's like destiny, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: if you are a person like a woman, and you're
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  Speaker 1: surrounded by women who are embittered, then they're more likely
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  Speaker 1: to want you to be in the boat. With them
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  Speaker 1: like misery likes company, you know that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well, I mean China's got birth rate
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  Speaker 1: problems too.
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  Speaker 2: It's everywhere. I think that women are particularly prone to
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  Speaker 2: envy and feeling like they have been taken advantage of.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that that. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that inclination is destiny, but we don't really call we don't.
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  Speaker 2: We put more pressure on men not to be like
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  Speaker 2: that than we do well, and I think the result.
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  Speaker 1: There's definitely more social pressure on men to behave well
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  Speaker 1: and more shame and oh yeah, there's almost none on women.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out now using grock analyses of Twitter posts to
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  Speaker 2: actually show this to people, you know, And it's actually
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  Speaker 2: because people will say, oh no, we give men the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. One argument I had was on
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  Speaker 2: that you remember that a while back, that Twitter post
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  Speaker 2: where the feminist was celebrating the woman who set that
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  Speaker 2: dude on fire because he disrespected her by saying get
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  Speaker 2: back gaming ribbing, and they celebrated or they were they
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  Speaker 2: were saying, oh, you know, do more of that or
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  Speaker 2: whatever that. So I did, I had groc do an
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  Speaker 2: analysis because actually I think it was the N word
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter who said to me, oh, you know that
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  Speaker 2: men do this. I'm like, well, grok, tell me how
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  Speaker 2: many men do this? And of course it comes back
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  Speaker 2: with very few. And also when they do, they get retweeted,
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  Speaker 2: and there is ten hundreds of thousands of likes on
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  Speaker 2: the retweets condemning them. But when women in this kind
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  Speaker 2: of celebratory violence towards men as a result of men
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  Speaker 2: disrespecting them, uh, they get on average, like I get
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  Speaker 2: zero to three hundred positive responses. And although they do
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  Speaker 2: get condemnation, it's more in the realm of thousands of
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  Speaker 2: likes on the posts that condemn them rather than hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of likes on the posts that condemn them.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a there's a difference in the energy that
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  Speaker 2: we as a guest salt, as a human guest salt,
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  Speaker 2: put into condemning men celebrating violence against women because women
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  Speaker 2: disrespect men, and condemning women celebrating violence against men because
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  Speaker 2: we they disrespected. Did I say disrespect women twice? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but that wasn't what I uh. As you
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  Speaker 2: can see even I have that bias. So and I
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  Speaker 2: pointed this all out. It's been great because that's what
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  Speaker 2: Grock excels at, scraping Twitter for general patterns and human behavior.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so yeah, this is it's been it's been fun,
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  Speaker 2: it's been fascinating. It's been fascinating. It's hard to lie
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  Speaker 2: about ourselves in the in the in the age of AI.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So anyway, that was the super chow. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get into the question. So the Ambivalent Sexism Test is
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  Speaker 1: put up by a website called IDR labs dot com,
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  Speaker 1: which is short for Individual Differences Research. And I learned
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  Speaker 1: about this because Goodfella made a video where he took
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  Speaker 1: the test and I want to reveal his score later,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll see if we can beat it.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a competition now no.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean like we're going to have to pick
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  Speaker 1: an answer because only one person can play at a time,
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  Speaker 1: although you guys can play at home. Because I put
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  Speaker 1: a link to the test and the description. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to sign up or create an account or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. You can just start answering questions and I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you how sexist you are at the end. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe find out. So let's read a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: the description, so we know what we're getting into. So
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  Speaker 1: this is categorized under feminism, politics, and psychology, and it's
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  Speaker 1: called the Ambivalent Sexism Tests, and it says The Ambivalent
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  Speaker 1: Sexism Inventory is one of the most famous instruments for
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  Speaker 1: measuring sexism against women. Based on the work of psychologists
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  Speaker 1: Glick and Fisk, the test assesses two types of sexism that,
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  Speaker 1: according to its authors, implement each other to reinforce traditional
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  Speaker 1: gender roles and patriarchal social structures, two types of sexisms.
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  Speaker 1: More than fifteen years of research on the Ambivalent Sexism
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  Speaker 1: Inventory supports that this test possesses genuine psychometric characteristics and
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  Speaker 1: is both empirically reliable and valid. Extensive research in over
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  Speaker 1: nineteen countries has similarly established that the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory
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  Speaker 1: is valid across cultures. Where do you fall on the
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  Speaker 1: Ambivalent Sexism Inventory for each of the following items, indicate
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  Speaker 1: your level of agreement below. That's so, okay, what have
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  Speaker 1: we established? That is it supposedly like, you know, really
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  Speaker 1: legitimate like what we're gonna find. But most importantly, and
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  Speaker 1: I think not surprisingly, it's measuring sexism against women, not
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  Speaker 1: against men against women. So and not against non binary
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  Speaker 1: people or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, well, non binary people.
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  Speaker 1: Don't matter, No, they don't not now.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, not in this instance. Guys, just step back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, only when we're trying to erase men do does
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  Speaker 1: it matter? But this is not This is about women.
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  Speaker 2: So if people want to argue that there's only two sexism,
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  Speaker 2: look at how sexism is looked at in feminism. There
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  Speaker 2: you go. There's only people you can be sexist against
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  Speaker 2: and the people who can be sexist. So let's look
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  Speaker 2: at this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to set it on Twitter. There are
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  Speaker 1: twenty two questions. We can chat a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: each question and because of the way it's worded or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Question one men should sacrifice to ensure the well being
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  Speaker 1: of women, and then there are four. There's like neutral,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess you could pick, slightly agree, mostly agree,
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  Speaker 1: slightly disagree, mostly disagree. What do you think men should
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  Speaker 1: sacrifice to ensure the well being of women?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how about we how about we just do this
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  Speaker 2: two ways. Let's go with let's play two. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: through twice, but two different characters. Because this is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be difficult, Let's go with super chivalrous all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you want to do this time super chivalrous because
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  Speaker 1: this will still be sexist, right, it could still be
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  Speaker 1: considered sexist.
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  Speaker 2: Against super chivalrous first, and then we'll go with with
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  Speaker 2: equality next.
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  Speaker 3: Strongly agree, strongly agree.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, next question two, women have just as much of
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  Speaker 1: a sense of honor and duty as men?
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  Speaker 2: Are they have the same standard of honor and duty
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  Speaker 2: as men? No, what would a chivalrous say?
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  Speaker 1: Probably, I think, I mean, if we see it as
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  Speaker 1: a positive. But this is a funny question because it's
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  Speaker 1: literally framed as, uh like, this is what women feel like.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what women feel like. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you measure that. I mean, we you can measure
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  Speaker 1: what we think women feel, but I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 1: a These are weird questions. They're very broad.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it that our short stream is getting so
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  Speaker 2: little traffic? That's really bizarre? One, I mean that, how
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  Speaker 2: could that possibly be? One? I am watching, and you're
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  Speaker 2: probably watching.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not watching, because we used.
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  Speaker 2: To get at least a few, but now I guess
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  Speaker 2: we've decided to kill us. All right, let's go with
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  Speaker 2: women have just as much of a sense of honor
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  Speaker 2: and duty and as men. What would a chivalrous say, I.
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  Speaker 1: Would say they would. Well, that's it's tough because a
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  Speaker 1: chivalrous person, a man, let's say, a white knight, might
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  Speaker 1: say they don't, but they shouldn't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But then one that wants that they see said.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just go with let's just go with, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: just stract a straight like this is simpler. Do whatever
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  Speaker 2: you think paints is the best to do for women. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So we are a person who believes that men should
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice for women, but also that women have the same
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  Speaker 2: amount of honor and duty as men. So we're enforcing
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  Speaker 2: more honor and duty on men, but we believe both
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  Speaker 2: men and women are equally capable of it. Okay, go
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  Speaker 2: with agree, Just go.
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  Speaker 1: With agree, all right. Next, women lose fairly. When women
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  Speaker 1: lose fairly, they claim it was due to discrimination.
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  Speaker 2: Disagree, because we're going with whatever we think is best
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  Speaker 2: for women. Strongly disagree, and we go with whatever we
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  Speaker 2: think is best for women. Yeah, when women women see
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  Speaker 2: control over men in long term heterosexual relationships, of course,
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  Speaker 2: what do we think is the best way to portray women?
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  Speaker 2: Strongly disagree?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, of course, of course they don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Women not necessarily be agreed disagree, Well, what's the best
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  Speaker 2: for women? Strongly disagree.
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  Speaker 1: In an emergency, women should not necessarily be rescued before men.
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading the whole question for people who listen to
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  Speaker 1: the podcast later should not, So this is strongly disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Strongly disagree. What I'm trying to emulate is basically whatever
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  Speaker 2: is best for women, And I'm wondering what kind of
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  Speaker 2: sexism that will end up being Okay next, women are
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  Speaker 2: obviously strongly disagree.
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  Speaker 3: That's not flattering to its impossible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not flattering.
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  Speaker 2: Gender equity and equal rights are entirely reasonable to mens. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: even though we are demanding that men sacrifice more, and
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  Speaker 2: that we never look at women what women do in
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  Speaker 2: relation to how men feel, but we do look at
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  Speaker 2: how things in relation to how women feel. Obviously, we're
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  Speaker 2: are pursuing equality because we're putting women first. So disagree.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, sorry, strongly agree, because that's women, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pro woman. We're doing the pro woman physicition. A good
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  Speaker 2: woman should be put on a pedestal ship. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get it here. Agree. Wait wait, wait, but but good
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  Speaker 2: isn't that assuming that we have the right to morally judge.
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  Speaker 1: Women should be on a pedestal, not just a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Every woman, yes, yes, yes, the murderers, the rapists, every
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  Speaker 2: single woman should be placed on a pedestal.
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  Speaker 1: So this obviously, Oh women are good women.
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  Speaker 3: Therefore those women are good women.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a trick question, guys. Should we just
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  Speaker 2: put it in the middle like incisive?
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  Speaker 1: I think we shouldn't. We shouldn't weasel out of this one.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, if we're the most chivalrous, the most
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  Speaker 1: you would say a good woman should be put on
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  Speaker 1: a pedestal, But you would also say that there are
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  Speaker 1: no bad women, yes, which we do. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think we should agree.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get it for that one. Women
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  Speaker 2: are generally this sexism towards women, Is it okay? If
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  Speaker 2: a man and a woman go on a date, the
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  Speaker 2: man should not necessarily pay. Strongly disagree, because that's not
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  Speaker 2: a benefit to women. Wait, wait, not necessarily pay. So
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  Speaker 2: if she says she wants to pay, that would be
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  Speaker 2: sort of a then it's good. These questions, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's really difficult to figure out the absolute pro woman's
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  Speaker 2: stance in these questions. Okay, in some of them, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's disagree.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, let's disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Women speak seek special favors under the guise of equality. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's unflattering to women's How dare Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: How dare you?
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  Speaker 2: Women should be cherished and protected by men? Agree? This
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  Speaker 2: is benefit to women?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I guess. I'm guessing this is going to put me
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  Speaker 2: put us strongly into benevolent sexism, because believing that women
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  Speaker 2: are better than men is benevolent sexism against women. This
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  Speaker 2: is this is this has got psychoactive or what psychoactive
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  Speaker 2: that's the wrong word. This has got some kind of
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  Speaker 2: psychological validity. Guys, women exaggerate the problems they face in society. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's not flattering to women's So disagree.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, yes, disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Because women talking about their problems isn't actually considered at
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  Speaker 2: this time a scientific, scientific position that based on scientific
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  Speaker 2: ethics should be able to be put in question. No,
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  Speaker 2: it is actually a sub human, criminal and anti social
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  Speaker 2: thing to question whether or not all of the things
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  Speaker 2: that women are a victim of they are actually victims of,
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  Speaker 2: even though actually being a victim is the traditional role
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  Speaker 2: of women. You know what, I'm obviously a dread misogynists, going,
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  Speaker 2: women tease men benevolent massie, that's not flattering. Obviously disagree, Yeah, men, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: women do not criticism women.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's men's fault. Teach men not.
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  Speaker 2: To rape, will teach men not to be rapable. I
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  Speaker 2: think is more in that one. Yeah, the country is
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  Speaker 2: compulsory military conscription. The conscription should apply to men and
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  Speaker 2: women equally. Disagree.
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  Speaker 1: Well, women want that military glory, but.
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  Speaker 2: They don't want conscription. That's forced.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want conscription.
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  Speaker 2: That's a violation of bodily autonomy. I thought we were
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  Speaker 2: against that. Let's go with disagree, like strongly.
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  Speaker 1: I will strongly disagree on that one. Women are just.
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  Speaker 2: As rational and logical as men. Well, that's a flattering thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to assault the women. So
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  Speaker 2: we got to go with strongly agree.
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  Speaker 1: What if they're more rational and logical than men? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know what I'm getting. Where this the
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  Speaker 2: sexism that this test is measuring.
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  Speaker 1: Everything?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, where's the test? Just test what or not
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  Speaker 2: you think men women should be benefited in every circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: We should never consider the situation of men and women
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  Speaker 2: are just everything superior to men. I mean, because that
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  Speaker 2: sounds like it's the only thing that wouldn't be sexist. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's go with agreed.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go with agree because we.
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  Speaker 2: Don't want to be doing anything that's not flattering to women.
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  Speaker 2: Women fail to appreciate all the things men do for them.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know that I had? Do you do you
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  Speaker 2: guys really think that? I mean, honestly, there's the mainstream
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  Speaker 2: narrative that everything that men have contributed to the world
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  Speaker 2: is pressing women. Yeah, okay, you got to go with
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  Speaker 2: disagree though, because you know, we're trying to we're being flattering.
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  Speaker 2: What is the most beneficial for to present to women?
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  Speaker 1: I guess for women, Yes, the most flattering way to
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  Speaker 1: look at of course women appreciate, preciate.
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  Speaker 2: There's just nothing to appreciate, right.
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  Speaker 1: But there's nothing to appreciate. Yeah, yeah, and all the violence,
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  Speaker 1: all the violence that men do to women who have
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  Speaker 1: more refined.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Sense of culture than men. So all of this is
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: based on flattery of women. But I'm sensing that some
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of the flattery is going to be considered benevolent and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: some of the flattery is going to be considered not hostile. Okay,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: just go with fully.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Agree, all right fully agree. Women are definitely more refined
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and cultured.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just just going back on this, guys.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: We believe that women men should sacrifice for women, that
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: men should sacrifice their bodily autonomy to maintain the protections
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: of the societies that women are part of, but women
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to, and that in every instance women are
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: better than men, if that's the option, and or they're
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that women do everything right. And we're going to go
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: through from that position and we're going to find out
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: what kind of sexism against women that is. Okay, question,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I have a special sensitivity that men could never achieve.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Obviously agree, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: This is this, guys. This is sexism again against women.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Inventory a special sensitivity that men could never achieve. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they're X men. Women are X men.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: They have special abilities, strongly achieved.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Course, Yes, women are too eager to interpret innocent remarks
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: as sexist.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Well, this is like they're too easy too, that's like
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the other thing about them being easily offended. I disagree.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I well, I know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: We are we equally not allowed to make negative No,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of course, we're perfectly allowed to make negative generalizations of men,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and that's actually true observations like men oppress women, like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the fundamental relationship between men and women has been characterized
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: by oppression unless feminists have complete control over it. That's
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the only time when it's not men not doing their oppressing,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: which is which is not supposed to be inherent to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: their nation, but but is the emergent property of everything
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: that they do together ever throughout history. Okay, disagree, disagree. No,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: women aren't more, aren't are prone to interpret anything.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: They're always just the right amount of whatever it is. Yes,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: always remember when Mark Zuckerberg's like CFO Facebook and I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: forget her name Sandberg, maybe she was like years ago,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: maybe twenty seventeen or so, and the new word that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: was like sexist was just the word too too. Do
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you remember that? I remember that? I remember too, you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: like for women it's they're to this, they're too that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Just the word too was like the new sexist word.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And so obviously we like we can't have women are
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: too eager to interpret because it's got the word two
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: in it. That's a trigger word. That's a microaggression. We're
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: gonna disagree with that, Yeah, hard disagree. Shel Sandberg, Thank you,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that's what it was. What was that?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we can but but that. But there's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: no microaggressions that apply to men. That's what I was
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: gonna doant. No microaggressions can't in fact me saying or
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: even in preferring the possibility of microaggressions applying to me.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Against women.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah to and Bossy that was it. She was the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: band BOSSI lady, Yeah, all right. Uh. A woman cannot
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: be happy without a man to look after her. That the.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Contrare.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, there is no way even a woman who is
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: unhappy is actually happy. She just doesn't understand it yet.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And then lastly, women have nurturing capabilities that men could
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: never achieve ever in a million in a lifetime.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: This is the sexism against women inventory.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Okay? Should I agree with that?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Strongly? Agree?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. Okay, we're gonna finish and see
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: what we get. Test all right, and test your results.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Eighty benevolent sexism. Wait, but we answer everything that we
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: got zero hostile sexism. What the it's all sexism though, yes.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It's all sexism, all of it. Any attitude towards women
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: period is sexism. Even the attitude that men should sacrifice
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: for them women are superior in every capacity. That's benevolent sexism. Gay,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: good didn't you read that? This is absolute stupidity? What
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: does it? What does it say about our results? And
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: what's the Oh, I guess there's only what's the twelve percent?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: We're eighty eight percent benevolent sexism? Twelve?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I guess it's indifference or or positively not sexist. Okay,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll read the I won't read the hostile
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: sexism section. I'll just read the benevolent one because we're
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: gonna take it again and try to go like super like,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, red.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Pill like, and then maybe we'll try to get no
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: sexism that's even.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's good luck with that. Okay, But let's see
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: benevolent sexism Attitudes towards women that may seem positive on
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the surface but also serve to perpetuate gender stereotypes and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: gender inequality. For example, the belief that men should protect women,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that women thrive better in nurturing roles, or that women
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: are somehow purer than men may all be seen as
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: forms of benevolent sexism.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Can I propose another sexism test? How much you think
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: with view women as victims of things tests? Right? How
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: little you can recognize that women have take action and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: make choices and those choices have consequences. Can we do
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: that test? Because this test is an example of victimhood sexism.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: You just took something that is frankly offensive, like presenting
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: these attitudes. First of all, I've seen lots of radical
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and feminists who believe this stuff, and of course that's patriarchy, right, Okay,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: all right, okay, But here's the You're saying that seeing
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: women is uniquely good and nurturing. That's bad. Well, can
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: we recognize that women are equally likely to rape and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: engage in domestic violence? Right? No, of course not, that's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: going too far. So what I'm saying is that this
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: is within a context of people who are desperate to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: apply the label of victim to women and see everything
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: in terms of men's agency. These statements do not harm women, right.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: They may support traditional gender roles, but those traditional gender
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: roles benefit women. It benefits women to be seen as
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: more sensitive or intelligent or nurturing or whatever else positive thing, good,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: more moral than men. How could it not? Do you
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: think that any group of people that was in social
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: power saw itself as less moral, less nuanced and sensitive,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: been aware, and less good and less valuable than the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: people that they ruled. Seriously, this is the attitude of
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: aristocrats to the course degenerate plubs. And you're telling me
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that this is benevolent sexism targeting women, that this is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: an obsession with making women out to the victims of
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: anything includive concluding positive regard. I think women are wonderful. Oh,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you're just a sexist and hates women. But I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: they're wonderful. Shut up about this horrible sexism hate speech.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: But if you don't think they're wonderful, that's also hate speech.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: This is like, okay, let's go total Allison on this.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I got Before we do that, I get I got
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: a super chow. I'm gonna read it, and then I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: also want to read something that's a little bit of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: spaghetti that I think adds some like some kind of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: negative context of this whole thing, and then we'll do
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: another run through of the test. So Sleepy Ausie gave
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and says, every question on this test
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is the definition of a leading question. I got ninety
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: seven percent hostile sexism. Well, if I'm going to be
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a sexist, I might as well be the sexist that
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: benefits me the most. The test fails. This test fails
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to give men a positive identity and so is simply
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: another form of shaming. Well, yes, yes, that's that's exactly
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the point. It's why I picked That's why I decided
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to go through it, because I knew that's how this
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: This is like a BuzzFeed test, but it's like on
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a more academic space. What does that tell you. It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: like it's like finding out which you know, Disney Princess villain,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you are okay? So please note there's a note here.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It says the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory is rooted in liberal feminism,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: which is a brand of feminist It's one of the flavors.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: As such, its authors define positive female stereotypes and behaviors
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that give preferential treatment to women on account of their
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: gender as sexism. The benevolent sexism scale. Someone who sees
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: gender issues from the perspective of cultural feminism or intersectional
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: feminism would not necessarily regard benevolent sexism as a form
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of sexism. So they're just like, this is them saying,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: please don't attack us, fellow feminists. We're doing this from
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: this other feminist perspective that we know you guys hate,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but we're basically like covering our ass so that we
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: don't get in trouble because I mean, interfectionals would say,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: why is it divided into two genders? That would be
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: their main problem.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, you know what, as long as they're
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: fighting each other, it sounds like a good thing. But
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: what is the feminism that doesn't always land on females
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: or victims relative to men?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: There is no brand events feminism.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Because that's my feminism, except there is none. So I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: not okay, let's go. Let's go full Allison on this test.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna let you answer honestly and we'll
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: get your answers.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: No, disagree, stronger.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Different, These are different questions. I think women are generally
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: better people.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Even if you say that, then isn't that equality?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So disagree strongly, okay, strongly disagree, strongly disagree.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Women fail fail question give your answer, okay, women fail
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to appreciate all the things men do for them.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Strongly disagree or strongly agree.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Agree.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Women have a more refined sense of culture than men.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because Mozart was a woman, and Van Goh
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: was a woman, and Picasso was a woman. And disagree strongly.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, women have just as much. We read it as.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Honor and duty are just empty flattering terms. You have
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to have them to watch to something, which means you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: have to be judged by your behavior towards that thing.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: What thing are women judged in relation to? Well, certainly
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: isn't God anymore, and certainly isn't society because society is
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: always in debt to them, because society has always failed them,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And it certainly isn't men because men are the worst
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of the lot. So disagree, Like, how by what definition
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: do women? Can women have honor and duty without something
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: to have honor and duty too? Not strongly disagree. I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: going to go for nine percent fucking hostile sexism.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You're a bit hostile.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Agree one hundred percent.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Under the guise of.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Equality one degree? What is this like to the criticism
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of feminism?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Test Like, seriously, yeah, right, answer these questions based on
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the ideology we've created. You don't like our ideology? All right? Next,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: let me read it first. Okay, women are just as
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: rational and logical as men.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Realistically, I would honestly say that men and women both
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: have their irrational sides. But I'm going to go with
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: disagree just because I know that's the raging red pill.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: But I mean, if I were to analyze this logically,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I think both men and women are.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Irrational into until you want to do.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But then I know that's not going to get me
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the full Marx for hostile sexism.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, just put it in the.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Middle, like leave it here now.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, what if we put it at agree.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Like slightly agree, slightly agree, do.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You only get like a middle agree? Okay?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: No, the middle is just the middle is like neutral
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: slightly and there's like you know very much.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, okay, like let's go with uh, let's just
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: slightly agree. I mean, if you want me to be honest,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I can go with to be honest, all right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Women have a special sensitivity that men could never achieve
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to what, so just disagree or or strong?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: What if they disagree sensitivity to everything selves? I guess
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: they have a special sensitivity to themselves. I don't know
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: what the fuck that's worth, though.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Disagree right here?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: No fully, like get that sucker, right in the There
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: we go. Let's keep going.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: If a country has compulsory military conscription, agree conscription equal, yes,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: send them, send them lines. Women have nurturing capabilities that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: men could never be how much?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Totally?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Okay? Women are too eager to take innocent remarks as sexists.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree? Agree, Yes, heart degree Yes, I mean
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: there's there's only partial degree and heart degree. So yeah, okay, Okay,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward towards my mom for my numbers.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Women should be cherished and protected by men, like how much?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: How about? How about men should be cherished and protected
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: by women.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You're not going to find here? What are you talking about?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go hard. I'll go hard. Disagree. I don't
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: want to mean, I don't want to be mealy about
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: any of this.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in an emergency, women should not necessarily be rescued
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: before men.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Agree.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, all the way, all.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: The way, Mac Setsucker.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Women see control over men in long term heterosexual relationships.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Control over men in long term heterosexual relationships.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we're talking about is control, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: they this is a hard one. Okay, I'll go with
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: greed partially.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I know I said I was Yeah, I think it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: like the basically, it's like micromanaging, nagging to get their way.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: They definitely turn. I mean I don't know I could,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I could go through it myself. But anyway, equality and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: equal rights are entirely reasonable demands. Yes, yeah, all the way.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I agree? Yeah, sure, go all the way.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're not specifying women or men.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: When women lose fairly, they claim it was due to discrimination.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm going to go with what
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: women can do relative to men. Yes, women have the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: ability to claim that was due to discrimination, not men.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, if a man and a woman go out
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on a date, the man should not necessarily pay.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Agree all the way, yep.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, women are too easily offended.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Hell of that.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, men should sacrifice to ensure the well
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: being of women.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Disagree highly, highly disagree, all right, despite the fact they
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: already do.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: A woman cannot be happy without a man to look
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: after her.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: What's the don't care opinion? Like, how do I reflect that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I'd be the middle? I think happy without a man
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to look after her?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Middle?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll leave it there. A good woman should
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: be put on a pedestal. No, Okay, how much?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Why should a good woman be put on a pedestal?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: She should just be recognized that her actions are good. Like, okay,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that's next one.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: How much do you disagree like this much?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, okay.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Women exaggerate the problems they face in society.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, could it's all I got ninety nine? Eh?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Or no?
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: No?
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Wait? Or over here? What is it?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: All the way over? Don't do it? Balls to the wall?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Tease men sexually on purpose? What do they tease men sexually?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Not on purpose? Do they not tease me?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's that whole This is like that whole
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like slut shaming thing. But I mean and and it
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: says women, so not necessarily women that are in intimate
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: relationships with men, but just sort of women generally. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: think that's what my thing. I'm trying to think about
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: what they're referring to.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just go with fully agree, fully agree.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go, let's see how you know you did?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Someone got to get those numbers up.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just I gotta get good.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get good. That's that's a skill issue.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It's not high, but it's a skill issue because I'm
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: a woman.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: That's not I can't do that, Let me do it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Hostile sexism overtly negative beliefs about women, as well as
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: negative stereotypes about them. For example, the belief that women
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: are entitled and egotistical, that women seek unearned privileges in society,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: or the belief that women seek to tease or control
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: men sexually, may all be seen as forms of hostile sexism.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: The vote but not service to the state. Right, there
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: was that I said, seek the vote, but not service
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to the state. Now there is why I wouldn't put
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that on the feet lay that on the feet of
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: all women, because most women didn't want the vote, right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: partially because they didn't want to have to do service
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to the state. But it was still granted to women.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: And it's still presented as equality when it patently, logically,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: reasonably ethically in any time time of principles is not equality.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So that is presented as something it isn't. It's presented
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: as inequality. That was against women. That was solved. No,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: it wasn't solved because the men who got the vote
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: had to demonstrate service in wartime prior to getting the vote.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Influencing government has been consistently associated with service in wartime
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: since forever, since ever now, women were the only ones
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: who ever got to stay in the state without an
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: expectation of serving the state in war. That's that. And
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: then going back and looking at that, whether or not
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you want to say it's right, it had to happen
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: or whatever, but going back turn around and looking at
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: that and saying that isn't a situation of granting a
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: privilege that men have never had in all of human
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: history to women, but is instead correcting some kind of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: wrong against women. That indicates to me that women who
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: espouse this want privileges that are unearned privileges. And it's
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: impossible to argue against that. I've gotten into arguments, but
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: they degenerate, deteriorate into ad homonyms or just throwing out
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of spaghetti so that they can pretend that
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: they're arguing against what I'm saying, but no actual argument.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: All right, So I got seventy six, which you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: somebody else.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Said somebody people in the chat got higher scores. Nova
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Fan got seventy nine. Oh he beat that. That's like
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: seventy six like a B. Isn't that like a B minus?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: And I think Gabriel said he got a hunt or
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: he went he's yeah, he went in.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: How you get numbers like that?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, I want to take I want
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to take a turn. Women have more refined sense, and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be blunt sort of sense of culture than men. Disagree. No,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: women are too easy offended. Yes, we we We actually
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: encourage that women have a special sensitivity that men could
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: never achieve, special sensitivity like your sensitive that men could
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: never achieve. Nah. I disagree. Women exaggerate the problems they face. Yes,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: women seek special favors. Yes. If a country has compulsory
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: military conscription, that conscription should apply to men and women equally.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so I would say yes, but there
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is there is one issue. I think that women entering
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the military would get men killed and we would lose wars,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and I want to win wars. So I'm gonna I'm
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: gonna disagree, but only slightly, because I think women could
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: fulfill other roles. To be honest, you know, if a
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: man and a woman go on a date, the man
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: should not necessarily pay. Disagree with that. When women lose fairly,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they claim it was due to discrimination. Yes, they do,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: gener e quality and equal rights are entirely reasonable demands. Sure,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: but we have that sort of Actually, men are the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: ones lacking in those if anything, So I would say
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: that I do agree that it's reasonable, but I think
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it should apply to men. So a good woman should
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be on a pedical No, oops, I almost push the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: wrong button. Women should be cherished and protected by men. No,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: cherished and protected. Well, I mean everybody should do that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: for everybody. But I'm gonna disagree only because this is
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: not inclusive. Women are too eager to interpret innocent remarks
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: as sexist. Yes, they are because they benefit from those allegations.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Women see control over men in long term HETEROSEXU relationships. Yes,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: even the good ones. Women tease. It's like written in
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the Bible about it. Women tease men sexually on purpose. Yes,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I'm on the Internet. I see it. Women are just
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: as rational and logical as men. Know. Women have just
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: as much of a sense of honor and duty as men. No,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: because it's not asked of them. Women cannot be happy
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: without a man to look after her. No, I don't.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. Really. I think that there
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: are edge cases where women can be fine on their
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: own they just can't. Like. I think women who are
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: angry at men and they're alone are still centering men.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So women fail to appreciate all the things men do
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: for them. Yes, in an emergency, women should not necessarily
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: be rescued before men. Yes, men should sacrifice to ensure
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the well being of women. Men should sacrifice. Women are
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: generally better people than men. Hell know, women have nurturing
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: capabilities that men could never achieve. No, I don't think so.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, I got higher than Allison. I'm more sexistic because.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: It's probably because I was didn't say anything about women
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: actually needing men. Wow. Okay, so let me see how
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: this this is weighted.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Please, what's the meta? That's what I want to know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It's probably four points or sorry, five points for each. Okay, Now,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: let's see if we can get no sexism.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: No sexism, no possible? We try.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do right.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Let's try to get no sexism. Women see control over
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: men in long term heterosexual relationships.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: No sexism. Disagree strongly?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, disagree strongly. Women are just as rational and logical
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: as men.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Agree all the way.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Women should be cherished and protected by men. Neutral, neutral, Okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Women tease men sexually on purpose.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Disagree strongly, strongly disagree.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Women seek special favors under the guise strong women have
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: just as much of a sense of honor and duty
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: as men.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Agree strongly agree, strongly okay.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Women have nurturing capabilities that men could never achieve. Neutral, neutral,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: All right, a good woman should be put on a
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: pedestal neutral neutral. A woman cannot be happy without a
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: man to look after her.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Disagree strongly, strongly disagree.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Gender equality and equal rights are entirely reasonable demands. Strongly agree,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: strongly agree. Women exaggerate the problems they face in society.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Strongly disagree, strongly disagree. If a country has compulsory military concscription,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that conscription should apply to men and women equally.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Strongly agree, strongly agree, neutral.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Neutral, neutral, Agree, I'll go I'll go with strongly.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Agree, strongly agree.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I want to point out that, because there's no corresponding
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: question for men, this is only half the story. Like,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: for example, what if you ask them, do you think
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: men complain about problems? And they say yes? Does that
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Does that suggest because you are treating women as more
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: like their problem, their problems is more legitimate. Okay, let's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: keep it all right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: All right, so neutral, neutral, what do you want?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I agree?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I agree, all right.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Agree women are generally better people than men. Neutral, Okay,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: women fail to appreciate all the things men do for them.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Strongly, Disagree strongly.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Disagree they always appreciate it. If a man and a
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: woman go out on a date, the man should not
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: ness necessarily pay.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Agree slightly.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, women are too easily offended.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Disagree strongly.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yep. When women lose fairly, they claim it was due
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to discrimination. Disagree strong strongly. In an emergency, women should
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: not necessarily be rescued before men.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Neutral, all right, let me think, let me go back.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, in an.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Emergency, women should not necessarily be rescued before men. This
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: is a hard one. Let's go with the let's go
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: with agree strongly, agree.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Strongly agree. Okay. Men should sacrifice to ensure the well
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: being of women. Neutral, neutral, all right.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Whenever you have whenever you have something that a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: genuine traditional opinion on men and women that does benefit women,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I think you go neutral. Whenever it's obviously anti women,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you go disagree or agree depending.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: M my wife, I said, Hello, all right, women have
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a more so I left it neutral. Women have a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: more refined sense of culture than men. Yep, women are
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: too eager to interpret innocent remarks as sexist.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Strongly disagree, yes.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And then women have a special sensitivity that men could
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: never achieve. Neutral, and we're gonna go finish. Okay, before
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: we do that, I got a rumble. Rant Novavan twenty
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: one gave us a dollar and says, I am convinced
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: this test is not a are you sexist quiz? But
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a which type of sexist are you? Type of quiz? Yes,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: which which sexist are you? Somebody should make one that's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: like which misogynists are you? And it has like all
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: these archetypes like the you know, the Fedora tipping guy
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and the p Ua guy and Andrew Tate guy and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the I think that'd be funny. Okay, finish, let's see
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: what we get. Look at that twelve percent benevolent sexism.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Sexism, Well, I.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Mean, everybody got a little bit of sexist. You couldn't
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: you can't avoid it? Well, maybe you can.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yes, No, you probably can't. I'm just
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: trying to think about where I wonder if it's the
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: neutral that I did. Yeah, it's pretty close, but I
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: guess we could try to do better.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's neutral was missing from the other test.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: This is bullshit. This is utter bullshit. The people who
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: created this should feel embarrassed because you're not scientists. You're
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: a bunch of flim flam artists. Honestly, you should be
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: run out of town and tarred and feathered because you'd
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: made somebody's goat turn blue with your stupid mister schmacky
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Schmack's super elixir of solving goat problems. This is absolutely bullshit.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask GROC if there's any uh any count
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: the U Is there any Is there any push or
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: controversy around thebivalent.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Sexism tests on IDR labs dot com.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's say GROC has to say yes, there's
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: some controversy methodological flaws and scale construction, asymmetry and measuring
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: sexism towards men. No shit, This test could be true,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to be pro could be used as evidence for some
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: of the things that it says are hostile sexism, lack
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: of intersectionality. Who gives a crap? I actually got into
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it with GROC about intersectionality, and I pointed out that
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: intersectionality while if it recognizes broad harms to women but
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't but turns all harms to men into specific categories
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of men, then it still is doing the same thing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Because Okay, feminism, in order to prove itself, has to
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: prove that men in authority equals women oppressed. So women
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: add a disadvantage relative to men. So you actually have
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to look at the disadvantages that men face when they
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: are in positions of power and authority and they have
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: to provide for women. You have to holding that constant.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: So that is an evidence of anything that itself is
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: as an evidence of nothing, because you are trying to
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: prove a causal relationship between that and something else, which
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: is the disadvantage of women. So you have to look
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: at are women disadvantaged?
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: That is the null hypothesis. If you can actually show
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that men have the same amount of disadvantage or more
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: than women, you have proven the null hypothesis. Thus feminism
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: is incorrect. Guess what feminists never do or rarely do,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: measure the one thing that invalidates their hypothesis, which is
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the situation for men. Okay, So intersectionality all it does
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: is it deflects from that because it still allows for
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: broad disadvantage for women, but it takes all of the
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: disadvantages for men and witters them into categories without looking
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: at the broad disadvantage for men. Because get this, that's
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: what disproves their theory. Somehow, they always manage to juggle
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: things in a way that they don't have to look
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: at the thing that disproves their theory. Even though if
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: they really were about equality, they would look at both
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: sides equally, right, They wouldn't not look at men's side, right,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: And they wouldn't advance theories or conjectures that require not
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: looking at men's side. They just assume that's the thing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: They assume men in power equals men better off. They
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: assume it. They've never proven it. And I think there's
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: a few studies that actually have looked at the null
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: hypothesis and one the null hypothesis held one but we
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: just ignore that. So feminism has actually been disproven in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the literature, but we just ignore that.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just ignore it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: That's why would we even pay attention to that, right,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And I think one got mixed results, But I sort
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: of pointed out to grok that mixed results that men
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: women have disadvantage and men have disadvantage actually also proves
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: the all hypothesis, depending on how mixed. Right, So it's
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: like this is this is the thing that's a problem.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: This inventory is just more evidence that feminists do not
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: measure the side for men. Like that flat out didn't
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: happen here? How is women are better people than men?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Sexism against women, sexism against women? Guys who developed the
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: ambivalent sexism? Like how did you do that? How? And
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: how you know? You know what? I know? The flim
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: flam artists are gonna flim flam academia. You have this
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: giant cancer growing in you. How come you haven't rooted
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: it out using the principles you say you hold yourselves to.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Why haven't you demanded that feminist test and ull hypothesis,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: not just like once or twice and then forget the results,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: but actually genuinely put their conjecture to test, right, Why
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: haven't you actually held them to the grindstone of all
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: of the problems in their methodology and the fact that
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you cannot assert that men women are oppressed because men
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: are in charge if you haven't actually genuinely looked at
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the situation for men. Where is that? Where's the oversight? Huh,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: where's the ethics? Because they're doing a lot of harm
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: at this point, a lot of harm. I mean, one
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: thing that they're doing is they're promoting interventions in intimate
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: battery batter of prevention programs that are shown to have
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: less efficacy substantially this or they're actually in some cases
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: worse than nothing, like the feminist deluthe interventions and battery
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: programs are many, this is worse than nothing. Or they
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: have tiny effects, right, tiny effects which might just be
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: due to chance. The more rigorous the study isn't investigating
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: the effects. The worst thing these these feminist inspired programs do.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: And yet feminist are blocking programs that are sort of
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: an evolved form of cognitive behavioral therapy called ACTV. Don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: ask me to tell you what that acronym stands for. Actually,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: let me just ask rock really quick.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Acronym. I got a new I got another quiz that
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: might be even better.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Achieving change through values based behavior. Okay, and this is
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: like a This is a best a evolved offshoot of
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: cognitive behavioral therapy. It is two times more effective than
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Duluth and Duluth may be not effective at all. So
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: that means the activity achieving change through values values based
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: behavior is very effective in reducing recidivism among batterers, which
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: means it protects women, and feminists are posing it because
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: it's not based on feminist ideology, even though feminist ideology
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the programs based on have shown no efficacy at all
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: or very little, which also begs the question doesn't that
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: mean feminist conjecture is probably not correct? Like a prediction
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: is that if feminists really understand where domestic violence come
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: from comes from and what causes it, their interventions should
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: be effective in stopping it. But they're not, and in
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: some cases they appear to be reverse effective, and yet
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: they still promote I'll promote interventions that don't reduce the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: rate of batterers of women, which means they're putting women
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: at greater harm to pursue their ideological interventions. So this
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: this I mean really going to talk about all of
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the awful stuff that feminism is doing to society. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: actually got grattat calculation. A conservative estimate is that five
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: thousand women a year are put in harm's way because
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: we choose feminist interventions over non feminist interventions. Right, that's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: higher if you assume complete adoption of non feminist interventions,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: and you also assume that because they're so effective, people
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: start applying it widespread. If we actually got away from
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: feminism and start looking at non feminist interventions, we could
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: really reduce the rate of battering of actual domestic violence
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: in our society. But we're not because these people have
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: no oversight. Whatever they say is swallowed uncritically, and academia
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: has failed to control them. Okay, they go ahead with
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: your rumber.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I already read it, so yeah, yeah, I did get
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: a member comment earlier from Gabriel like the member comments
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: in the thread look like the regular comments, and he says,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I did the test, got one hundred percent hostile sexism.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I'm proud he's the only one that's gotten one hundred percent.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: So the other thing is I saw this too because
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I thought I would click on this link where they
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: describe liberal feminism right here ambivalent and sexism inventory. And
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: apparently they have another test this could be even juicier
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: if you're curious. It's called the Feminism Test. This free
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: feminism test will allow you to obtain your scores on
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: five of the major positions in the legender equality debate
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: found in Western democracies. Though both feminists and anti feminists
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like to claim that the definition of feminism is straightforward,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: there is in fact considerable variety in how feminism is
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: defined and serious disagreements not just between feminist and anti feminists,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: but also among the various positions within feminism itself. And basically,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: this test, I guess it's gonna land you in generally
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: one of five different positions. Okay, feminist positions, which is
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: liberal feminism, radical feminism, Marxist feminism, and cultural feminism, as
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: well as a single anti feminism one which they're calling traditionalism.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: This is a totally fair and based forty two questions.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Forty two questions.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have to do that now, but.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, fine, fine, let's do it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do it? Do you want to
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: find out where you sit?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Okay? Can I go with what I believe women are
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: capable of, so that we don't necessarily but not necessarily
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: what they are actually engaging in. Yeah, i'll do it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I'll do it ideally. Is that what you mean? Yes?
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's the other thing is if this roots
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: me to traditionalism, then don't they realize that anti feminism
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: has a lot of different approaches.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I know, Well they're calling it traditionalism, so because the
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: foregone conclusion is feminism is not traditional, anything that opposes
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it is traditional. Okay, that's basically their framing. That's the
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: paradigm that they're dropping you in. Oh all right, forty
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: two questions. Let's see what kind of feminist Alton is.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Women are just as rational and logical as men.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Agree, probably need to strongly agree otherwise it's like a
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: partial statement. I mean, honestly, I'm really doubting that this
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: is this has got degrees because it's only has five points,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: which is fucking ridiculous. Yeah, I'm trying to think what
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: kind of okay, the emancipation of women's want.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: To there's a link in the original link where if
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you like, go if you go into your mabnivalent sexism
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and you look down here as a liberal feminism right there,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: or you can go back to the take the tests
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: again and I think if you click on on a second,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you does it let me take the
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: test again? Or is it because I'm already in the test. Well,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I think you can click on the tag feminism that's
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: in there already, yeah, like right here, and then there's
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: like feminism tests boom, so you can take it too
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: if you want. All right, but anyway, Question two, the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: emancipation of women is one of the crowning glories of
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Western civilization.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Disagree strongly.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Disagree what is emancipation? What is that? Even waiting for
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it to catch up? It's okay. Three, The fat acceptance
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: movement champions a worthwhile cause for women. It deserves more
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: sympathy and support.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Disagree strongly.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do strongly for everything, right, Yeah, okay. Women
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: have just as much of a sense of humor and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: do I'm sorry of honor. Didn't mean to misspeak. Women
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: have just as much of a sense of honor and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: duty as men, I think.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: If they were held to one. So maybe just keep neutral,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: The main extreme cultural conceptions surrounding male female dating and
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: intercourse are construct to satisfying men's desires.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: So basically, you're delegitimizing any critique of what is supposed
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: to be a scientific position. Do you realize how absolutely
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: lacking an integrity that is?
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Disagree it is not possible to be sexist against mess
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: disagree children should be raised in a gender neutral in
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: as gender neutral a way as possible.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: What does it mean by gender neutral? I think that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: boys and girls should be taught equivalent moral values, but
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I do not think you should force them to behave
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: in like, to like equivalent things, or to have the
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: same friends. So what does that mean? Because I'm pretty
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: sure that Christian communities also teach boys and girls the
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: sins and you know, the commandments, so I'm not sure
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I understand this.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I think that they assume the question. Okay, so this
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: is sounds like something that intersectional feminists would agree with,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that the what it's based on is
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the presumption that the only reason why boys tend to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: like boy things and girls tend to like girl things
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: is because they are raised, they are conditioned in their
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: upbringing to like them. So like their parents are saying,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: you're a boy, you get the trucks. You're a girl,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: you get the dolls, And that's probably not the way
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: it goes. I think that boys are just drawn to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: these mechanical things, you know, that are toys, and girls
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: are drawn to like the dolls in general, but if
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: they break that, they don't like hold it against them,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like boys like legos and legos aren't necessarily masculine, right,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: they're not trucks or action figures, and girls may like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like they also might like legos or or
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: building blocks or something too so. But but the the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: sort of intersectional position is that anytime boys and girls
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: grow up in whether when they are you know, doing
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: things that are more in line with like what we
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: would find to be typical of them, like boys with
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: with trucks and girls with dolls, they assume that it's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a product of social engineering as opposed to just like nature.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: You know, this question is basically saying that this is
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: an intersectional question. They're asking, like, do you agree with
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the intersectional position of like social you know, grooming.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: I guess I reject their their framework of gender neutral.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I think you raise kids with equivalent morals and you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: allow them access to what they would like to play with,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and you don't judge that or force it in any way.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Just let the kids.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I'm the same way, like, I mean, it's probably going
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: to turn out that boys are gonna want the action
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: figures and girls are gonna want the dolls, but you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: just have to be okay with it if that's what
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: they choose.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, the yeah.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: All right, women are just as independent and risk seeking
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: as men.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Not true, like studies indicate multiply that men are not.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Women are more risk adverse than men. Disagree, like, this
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: is just basically a bullshit framework, like welcome to our
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: funhouse of mirrors. Where do you fit like in your
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: labyrinth of bullshit? Okay, go ahead, full disagree.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: The labyrinth of bullshit sounds terrible. I would not want
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: to be stuck in there. It's like the walls are shit,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: everything smells. Women men's rights activists and male bashing feminists
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: are equally tribal and regressive in they're thinking, oh so
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: MRAs and feminist.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Going to this both sides.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: But the thing is that, which do you if I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: go full disagree because I don't think that men's rights
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: activists are regressive? How do they know that I'm saying,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: disagree for the male basking feminists or disagree for the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: men's rights activists? Go disagree, full disagree. We're going to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: go back to that one full yeah, you know, I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: think we should do these tests and just keep it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: in the middle for all of them and see what
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: results you get. We go back to I think, but
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: we'll do that next. Okay, let's finish this off.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: All women are generally better people than men. Disagree, Yes,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: contemporary Western societies are to a very large degree defined
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: by the patriarchy. Well that that probably has to be
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: true of any feminist position, right, So this puts you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: this right here, I think puts you in the anti
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: feminist category. Their differences are immutable, and men and women
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: have distinct but complementary social roles to play.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: What do you mean by immutable, like you can't change them?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I guess slight agree just in the interest of getting
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: through this.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: And support female empowerment are inherently weak empowerment.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Along one what access do you mean recognize? Okay, but
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, men who support what kind of empowerment?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Empowerment for women to be recognized as agents and that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: their lives are a result of the consequence of their
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: own choices, Because that's what empowerment looks like from where
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting. So I would go with a strong agree.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that that's how they define empowerment.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: In fact, I don't even think they have a consistent,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: sensible or logical definition for empowerment. Okay, go full agree, all.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Right, The wage gap is a myth. Women already get
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: equal work. That's not even up for debate. Giving women
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the hoot was a mistake, Okay, als, and I'm gonna
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: let you answer that one.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a mistake. Well, but then again, the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: process of human history is to evolve past too exactly. Yeah,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I will say that. I have a part of me
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: that's just like, yeah, fuck it, do it. Let's see
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: what the chaos, what chaos brings, what chaos will result,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: And I mean it did force us to understand ourselves more,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: or will force us to understand ourselves more, which is
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: why we're on this earth as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: So how do we find it? If you want a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: stable society? It is a Actually, you know, what's a
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: mistake more than anything, is starting to groom women towards
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: voting towards a particular party by making them embrace, uh
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: for a lifestyle that leaves them miserable and hungry for
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: things that they can only get in very disruptive ways
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: without family. Can I just I'm not going to answer it. Yeah,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: that's probably gonna get me anyway.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're supposed to disagree. A contemporary Western society is
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: permeated by rape culture.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah against men. No, not not as defined by feminist conjecture.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: But if you want to say that the rate at
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: which women are sexually praying on men is increasing and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: their attitudes are getting more regressive towards their male victims,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: yeah sure, but they're not gonna I'm gonna go with disagree.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: You know what, keep it neutral?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Neutral?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Neutral?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if women ran the world, there would be less
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: violence and fewer wars.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: No, and there's evidence against them, Like does this just
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: basically opinions about shit that are impervious to evidence.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Like olive oil? If I was pray?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Disagree strongly, all right, sort and disagree strongly.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: The essences of men and women are so different that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it makes no sense to speak of human rights only
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: male and female rights.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: This is new.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: These are separate things, I.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Don't think, so who the hell believes that? Disagree?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know then maybe yeah, because.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't even want male rights.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't even think categorize them as separate so
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: that then they can take them away.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Do traditionalists believe this, because I'm pretty sure her commandments.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that the traditionalist believes that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Then, Okay, the psychological tricks and manipulations used by pickup
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: artists to get women to sleep with them should be
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: considered a type of hate crime.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Is make up a hate crime? Disagree strongly?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: It is hypocritical for Western feminists to bash Western men
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: for the smallest grievances while largely ignoring the absence of
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: fundamental rights for women in the Muslim world.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's hypocritical, but I don't agree with the premise.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a traditional of what they would categorize
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: the traditionalist position, although I have heard that, but I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: don't know that that. I can't say this stuff all
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: the time, so for sure, Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Can I just go with neutral because the premise.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Is, well, yeah, the position of women in the Muslim
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: world is fine relative to the men in that same world,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: and they're like the largest, They're as big of an
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: enforcer of that belief system as the men are. So
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's kind of coming from ignorance anyways, right, So
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: this position, I mean, okay, so neutral for this one. Yeah,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: all right, the state should enforce quotas mandating that fathers
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and mothers take a roughly equal amount of parental leave.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Agree.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. Trump's political standpoints and statements are bad
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: news for women in America.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Disagree.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I mean pretty sure he hasn't really done anything to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: women at all.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think he's done anything for women at all.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: And they seem to invoke TDS in people.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I think they've forgotten that the whole Supreme Court stuff
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: around Rovius is way it happened with Biden, although I mean,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: I guess Trump appointed some justices.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: But let's keep on, all right. Since men repress women
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: not only in the public sphere but also in the home,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: feminism should not uphold the distinction between private and political,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: but in fact regard the private as political.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Disagree.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't sound like any specific brand.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: But no, no, but they're they're probably going with traditionalism
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: or antique traditionalism or something. Okay, keep going.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Gender equality has largely been achieved in the West, barring
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: certain ethnic minorities. The struggle for equality is as good
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: as over.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I know that they mean women, but I don't think
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: equality for men has been achieved.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Just neutral, Okay, female empowerment necessarily disempowers men.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: It depends on what type God is.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: This.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Is this a test for like a political position or
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: just inability to think critically?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's or if you're like a diehard feminist
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: eye in the wool, you have answers to these questions
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and they're and you're not concerned about any of the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: assumptions baked into the questions themselves. Right, there are assumptions baked.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go with neutral, and I think it's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: a question that can't be answered with the information presented.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, swimmer advertisements featuring excessively thin models should be banned
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: for men or for women? Well, men don't care. I'm assuming.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I honestly think maybe they should ban or at least
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: pull back on like the the the male beauty ideal
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: that the guy looks like he's two seconds away from
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: being in the er needing to get fluids intravenously, which
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: is basically Chris Helmsworth.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: The Marvel MCU.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But and you know that they have to they have
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: to starve themselves and dehydrate themselves to get that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, it's ridiculous.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: So it's actually extremely dangerous, and nobody talks about it.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Like women who are supposedly anarexic, they're just skinny. You
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: look at them, they're you know, they're probably have a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: body fat percentage of fifteen percent, twenty percent. They just
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: don't have any muscle, and they have incredibly small bones.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: They're not they're not actually that thin. But when you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: look at these guys, they're really skating the edge of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: self destruction with with this, with this ideal. So yeah,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: I would say that maybe we should reconsider showing men
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: as a masculine ideal when they're in a state of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: physical of near physical collapse and unhealthiness genuine this is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: beyond what they call anorexia and bolimia. These guys, you know,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: if they go, if they push it, like an hour longer,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: they're in the ar with dehydration, like health issues related
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: to dehydration and starvation. That's gross. Yeah, we should prebby
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: get rid of that. I agree.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I remember when Christian Bale he lost weight for a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: role in this movie called The Machinist where he was
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: really thin, and he, like I guess he did some
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: permanent damage to his heart and basically like cut his
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: life short by like a year or something. It was
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: some crazy story. So yeah, just yeah, nuts. But when
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: it comes to like the super thin supermodels, actually that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: they're not as they're not as celebrated these days as
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: they used to be. So I don't feel like this
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: is really an issue anymore. Like now we have like,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: you know, plus sized models everywhere, and I don't really
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: see the big deal. Like it's not like, you know,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: who's the iman of today, you know, do you guys
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: remember Imon she she was with David Bowie or Grace
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Jones or some of these, like you know, Cindy Crawford.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: There are no super like celebrity models these days, not
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: the thin kind anyway. Mostly they just use celebrities or
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Lizzo anyway, So which one do you want to pick?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: The trol neutral? I can't answer this without more clarity.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: White men pedal hatred against Muslims as a way to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: distract women from the fact that they are oppressed. Disagree, Wait,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: white men pedal hatred against Muslims as a way to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: distract women from the fact that they are oppressed Muslim
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: women or no, I think they mean their own women. Yes,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: pornography should not be legal.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Disagree, but I'm not exactly sure what they think traditionalists
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: are going to say about that.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Next, the states should enforce quotas mandating that a certain
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: percentage of male dominated high end jobs like CEO's, board memberships, professorships,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: et cetera, should go to women. So there should be quotas. Whatever. Yeah, okay,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: women can do every job in the military just as
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: well as men.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Disagree. If they can't, they can't. If they can't compete
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: with trends women, how can they do this?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Next, the use of If the use of sex robots
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: becomes a normal practice, this will lead to the dehumanization
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: of women women most affective robots exist. Disagree.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: The male gaze is tendency to objectify women against their
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: will as a serious problem for women.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Do you know, Can we address the fact that this
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: latest generation of women is like three to four times
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: using flat out rape relative to the current generation of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: men or any generation in history. Can we address that?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Can we address that their attitudes are getting more and
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: worse and worse and worse and more regressive when it
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: comes to male victims of rape. Why are we who
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: he's raping me with this? Can we stop? Can we
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: triage this? Can we triage this? Seriously? Is it possible?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: No? Disagree, disagree strongly. Let's go. There are only two genders, Hey,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Put it in the middle, all right.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: The lack of nuance roles for women in movies is
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: a serious problem for gender equality. The lack of nuance
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: roles for women in movies.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Do you mean all the girl bossing, all of the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: wretched girl bossing?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Did you describe that as wretched? Because I think it
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: is wretched. Yes, it's wretched. Disagree disagree?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what they're getting from.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know there's not enough of it. Sex in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: blurred lines, kinds of situations where the woman does not
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: explicitly consent but does not explicitly say no either is
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: morally on par with rape.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: This is the song in which the woman took all
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: of the physical initiative. How can people who think that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: that is some kind of rape culture directed at women? No,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I got it. I see why they just don't care
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: about sexual violence. They just can't conceive of it. If
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: they're thinking that this guy inviting a woman to touch,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: to take the initiative to touch him is him raping her?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I think they exist in another universe.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: From me, Yeah, strongly. Okay. Market economies unfairly favor men's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: abilities over women's.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Why would market economies unfairly favor anyone? Market economy is
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: based on what people are willing to pay you for.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell look at only fans or
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: modeling or prostitutions, and market economies are actually privileging women's
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: contributions remarkably. Okay, go with disagree. What a nonsense statement.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Feminists who don't actually play video games should refrain from
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: criticizing the portrayal of women in video case.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Let me let me look at that again. Agree, I'm
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: getting double bad.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Get your hands off my duty wife, ou please? Okay.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Men's tendency to find young and slender women more attractive
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: than older and plumper ones has much to do with
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: the media as it has to do with biology.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but media does have some effect, Like if
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: you actually look at how beauty ideals change, usually women
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: embrace like women embraced the skinny ideal first, and then
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: men followed, and it never like men's ideal never became
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: as as slender as women's ideal. It was women that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: made the moms and the Kate Mosses, right, they made
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: those ideals, and men sort of followed along and never
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: went that skinny in their own ideals. So, yes, it
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: does have something to do with media. But younger, no.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: But they're but they're but but women are the ones.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: You're saying that women are ultimately the ones that set
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the tone, and the media is simply the medium through
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: which that happens. But when they say media, they're they're
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: treating it like some kind of outside Well, they're saying
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: there's force that's outside of women.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, men just decided that they wanted this kind
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: of chick and then they forced it on every other men.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So when they say media there it's like
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: saying society did this.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is like saying men did this.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest, which is like saying it's another way
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: of saying men did this.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I will go with uh, I don't know, just middle,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Let's move on and get this done.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: The idea that men and women should have the same
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: rights is cultural and civilizational suicide.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: No, the idea that what feminists is following is equal rights,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: when in actuality it's special privileges for women. Men don't
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: have reproductive rights, they don't have rights in bodily autonomy.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: When it comes to conscription. They are actively being discriminated
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: against an education and in hiring and in the family courts. Like,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: if we pursue all of this under and pretend to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: ourselves that we're pursuing equal rights, we are pursuing disaster. Honestly,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I think that if we had genuinely pursued equal rights,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: maybe we will be considerably better off. But that's not
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: what we did, and it's honestly, it's become an object
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: lesson and what actually happens when you do these things.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: So it maybe that pursuing equal rights opened up this
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Pandora's box. Yeah, But then together other thing is that
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I believe that we face these problems for a reason,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: and the reason is to overcome them. So I think
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: that this is a problem that we need to overcome
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: and then we will be better for it. And if
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: we don't overcome it, it's because we've ceased to be
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: able to learn about ourselves.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: So I'll go neutral, neutral, all right, yep, two three
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: left women can be just as happy as men without
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: a stable relationship.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Disagree, It doesn't. It isn't. Yeah, the statistically it doesn't
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: show that. Whoa.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, it is not possible to be feminist and right wing.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Give it a new last one. Prostitutions should not be legal.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Disagree, but it is strongly disagree.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's see where you all who are
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: mostly traditionalists apparently, then liberal feminists, and then Marxist feminists
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: twenty seven percent. Oh, we got a red one in here, guys.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Traditional liberals, Yeah, liberals standards I liberal philosophy, yeah, which
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: you seek to preserve what they see is the natural
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: and traditional order of things. In the past, the standpoint
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: was cheaply represented by early twentieth centurist thinkers like Julius
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Uvola and Renee Gunon. For After a hiatus following World
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: War Two, traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: conservatism to the right mainstream conservatism. It's chiefly popular among
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: younger voters who are skeptical of liberal enlightened principles that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: mainstream conservatives except uniting instead behind a national pride a
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: critical stance towards feminism and Islam and resistance to globalism.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not Yeah, I think it's just because I have
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: a critical stance towards feminism, that's it.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well the questions were had very little to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: do with Islam. I think that was like one or
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: two questions and none about like you know, globalism or
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: national pride. So they're just sort of like lumping things
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: in into that. It's like, yoh, you're associated with this,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: and so this is associated with this other thing, and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: so you must be like associated with that other thing
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: as well. But that doesn't really matter. I mean, you know,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: we're just looking. Okay, so what's I'm just curious, but
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to do you want
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: me to read these other categories see what they are?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Sure, okay.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Liberal feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted and Enlightenment principles.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: It's classical works or penned by thinkers such as Mary
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Wilson Craft and John Stuart Mill. Mary Wilson Craft the
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: original feminists, by the way. This type of feminism holds
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: that men and women are each other's equals and as
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: such deserve equal rights. It is the type of feminism
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: that people allude to when they say feminism just means
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: equal rights. As opposed to other forms of feminism, liberal
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: feminism is individualistic rather than group based. Men and women
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted individuals,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: not genders or groups. All right, and then, radical feminism
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: holds that men oppress women through internalized forms of dominance
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: i e. Patriarchy. Women must come together and end this
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: oppression by rejecting traditional gender roles. Putting women in dresses,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: making them where makeup, and so on makes them sexual
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: objects that perpetuate male dominance. Women must refuse to comply
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: with the beauty standards that the patriarchy expects. Radical feminists
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: see a link between men's objectification of women in sexual
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: violence and abuse, institution, pornography, and advertisements. As sexualized women
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: are therefore not decisions that can be left to individual choice.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: They must be resisted by women everywhere as forms of
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: male oppression.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so why do they have such a problem with
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: trans women radical feminists? Yeah, Like, seriously, why do you
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: guys have such a problem with trans women? Variably trans
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: women want that role?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't take it. From women though, that's why.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: But you don't want the role. Radical feminists are like, okay,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: you know this, this is this is uh, this is
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: uh femine, our patriarchy, objectification of women. Radical feminis like,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: we don't want that bit, And then the trans women
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: pick it up and say, okay, well we'll do it,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: and then the radical feminists like, no, not, why do
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: you care so much?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, intersectionality isn't listed here they have, So next is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Marxist feminism. Maybe that's where it is. Marxist feminism holds
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: the motive production in capitalist societies is organized in a
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: way that favors men's abilities over women's. As opposed to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: radical feminists who see patriarchy as the source of gender inequality,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Marxist feminists see capitalism as the cause. Marxist feminists argue
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: that the structures of capitalist economies coerce women into assuming
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: responsibility for unpaid domestic tasks such as homemaking and tolerated
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: while leaving men free to earn money in the public sphere.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Gender equality can therefore never be achieved in a capitalist economy.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: While Marxist feminism was originally about economic revolution, more recent
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: writers have changed their focus from economic issues to cultural ones,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: placing more of an emphasis on the fight for social
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: justice than the fight to topple capitalism. Cultural feminism holds
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: that women and men are essentially different, and that women
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: are generally more nurturing, more empathetic, and less violent than men.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Cultural feminists seeks to celebrate these qualities, which they believe
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: have been oppressed by men. Cultural feminists believe that both
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: men and women are hurt by contemporary male dominatus society,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: which they see as encouraging male behaviors such as compet
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: ti and conflict. According to cultural feminism, if women were
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: given more power, there would be less violence, fewer wars,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: and more understanding in the world. So it sounds like
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: feminists today are just a mishmash of all of these things.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: They're just taking the parts of everything that they can
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: use and they just make it their thing. Have you
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: noticed that even traditionalism, like they modern feminist women today
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: have the they're trying to like min max their feminism builds.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: So they have like some of the stuff from liberal feminism,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: like the defenses and whatnot, of a lot of the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: stuff from radical feminism. And by the way, all these
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: feminisms have the same thing in common. They may try
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: to describe them differently, but they're all fighting against a
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: system that is basically men, whether you call it patriarchy
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: or capitalism or you know, heteronormativity or whatever. Yeah, culture,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: it's a fight.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Against men and seeing that they're victims of men and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: using that narrative to enact whatever particular thing that they want. Yeah, okay,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: all right, so we've we've been at this for an
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: hour and a half.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unless I thought it'd be kind of fun to do.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm really curious. I was really curious about
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: that one question about men's issues. But the only way
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: we can go back to it is the one in
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: the middle there, Like, if you like, we could try
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: just going completely neutral on everything and then getting to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: that question, which one. No, no, no, no, it's it's
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: one that specifically states something about men's rights activists, Like
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: if you go to the beginning, go to the very beginning.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: It's not this quiz though, right.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: This quiz.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Finist test, Yeah, the feminist test.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Just let's let's let's speed run this. Just go next
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: and put it in. Do we get to that question?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Just slow a little bit. Wait, wait, I.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Think you might men's rides activists and male bashing feminists
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: are equally tribal and regressive.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: And what if you say we went with neutral, you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Said strongly disagree to that one.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, let's go strongly agree and then put
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: everything else neutral. All right, Yeah, just just speed around
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: this ship. We'll do it again and maybe put neutral
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: on that one and see what it has to say. Okay,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: we we need like a button pressing song.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: No we don't. We can see this they watch it.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Boo liberal feminism fifty everything else.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, go back to that question. Go back to the question.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Let's let's put neutral and that basically that is that
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: is fifty percent everything.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: So everything neutral, everything neutral.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Except for everything neutral.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Taking a test making it all neutral, seeing what we get,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: we're probably just gonna get all fifty percent right.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, perfectly balanced.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: So go back, go back and just put okay, so
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: that that particular number, that particular question is going to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: liberal feminists, but it's not saying anything about traditionalism because
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: it it and this is the problem with this entire test.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: It is really poorly constructed because you should really be
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: asking do you believe that men's rights activists are the
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: same as menn hating feminists, which, incidentally, if I think
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: if you believe that men oppressed women, you're sort of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: hating men. There you're casting them in the role of
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: a criminal, which I mean, even if you think you
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: don't hate men, that is consistent with the kind of
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: threat narratives that people use in war propaganda to justify
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: murdering an entire group of people. So it's pretty powerful stuff.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that particular question is really confusing because you
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: could say that man hating feminists aren't the same as
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: men's rights activists. It's the men's rights actives are regressive tribalists,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: and you could say that man hating feminists are the
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: regressive tribalists, right, But it doesn't really clarify that question.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: The answer that question seems to just speak to liberal feminism.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe moves it by two percent. Is that what happened
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: when you moved to all the way to disagree or
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: all the way to agree?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: I'm on the dig when we when we went to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: all the way to agree, when we went to disagree,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: we have to disagree, put disagree and see where it moves.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: The needle and everything else neutral.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: Everything else neutral, like we're basically hacking.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: This test speed run. Okay, so yeah, yeah, when you
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: always agree, forty eight percent when you disagree, and fifty.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Percent if you're neutral on that question. In essence, if
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: you are a liberal feminist, you need to disagree that
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: men's rights activists or you need to agree that men's
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: rights activists and feminists are radical feminists manating feminists are
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: the same, right, and if you disagree, you lose points
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: from the liberal feminist category.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and so.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: That's probably why I ended up having a higher liberal
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: feminism because it's less man hating.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I guess I think that they're basically classifying less man
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: hating as still feminist, just liberal feminist. Not traditionalists though. No,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: so which by the way, they say traditionalism is kind
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: of like it it's it doesn't it doesn't necessary. It's
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: basically like everything else. It's like a category of everyone
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: who's not who doesn't fit into the other feminist categories.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Well, it seems like liberal I'm not just it's.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Not really traditionalists. It's like anti feminist, non feminists.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: You know, it's anybody who has who has a criticism
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: of feminism. But here's the kicker. Feminism bills itself as
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: a science. Criticisms of feminism shouldn't be subject to this
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: kind of social ostracization, Like this should be embraced as
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: part of the scientific process. So feminism is like it's
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: acting like a religion and pretending to be a science
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: because you're not supposed to You're not supposed to socially
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: ostracize the people who critique your science. That's part of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: the scientific process. So this is this is like, all
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: this proves to me is that science, that feminism is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: anti science. It's actually just a blot upon some science. Okay,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: all right, is there anything further that you wanted to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: do with.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: These No, I think that's it.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: That's good, and we could painstakingly and spurguingly just pack
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: the whole damn thing.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's I don't want to want to do that.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that. I don't think it's that
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: intellectually rigorous.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can conclude that it's got a lot
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: of bullshh.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, there's a lot of assumptions built into.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of assumptions, a lot of questions that aren't
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: sufficiently clear to know what the hell they're measuring. Well,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: it's typical of feminist science, like it's just a bunch
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: of bullshit that doesn't know what it's measuring. All right,
• 1:32:23
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  Speaker 2: What jacobus Peterson in the in this the vertical chat,
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  Speaker 2: which is very quiet today, says the inclusion of Ivolo
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  Speaker 2: directly equates TAD with fascism.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, that's again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Work. There are two genders, two sexes, right, and you
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  Speaker 1: Well, you don't even women and fascist?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what's this? What's this patriarchal bullshit? Ryan, They're not people.
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  Speaker 2: There are women which we can't define, and fascists. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
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  Speaker 1: On top of that, too, Holy shit, you're fucked,