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THE MALE CONSEQUENCES EPIDEMIC?!!! · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: Coming up bond Relatables.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a male loneliness epidemic or just facing the
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  Speaker 2: consequences of their own actions? There is a males not
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  Speaker 2: wanting to evolve epidemic.
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  Speaker 1: That's a very good way to put it, you know, evolution,
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  Speaker 1: That's a very good way to put it. Relatable. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: my beautiful business building, baddies, business building. Oh sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: mister Jake Craig aka Daddy, who, if you're not watching video,
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  Speaker 1: is holding his new child, a new child. Darcy. Oh
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  Speaker 1: Darcy beget Craig feels good. Oh is that what you do?
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  Speaker 1: A middle name? Beget? Because why ain't you going to
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  Speaker 1: keep beget. Why are you gonna keep the get? And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, because I don't like it and she's
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  Speaker 1: not your horse.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny how because if that was a child. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no one would say anything about the name.
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  Speaker 1: No, everyone has something to say about a dog. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's a dog. They're like, they feel like they have
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  Speaker 1: a say. People can't the audacity. Yeah, they think of
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  Speaker 1: their opinion. Your child, you could call it bloody. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know whatever you want it? Actually, okay, what okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say three names. I want to know
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  Speaker 1: how far I can take it if you if you
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  Speaker 1: for you to say something about what I would name
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  Speaker 1: my child, you know, I like unique though, go go go, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I've got three. One of them's first one's gonna be female.
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  Speaker 1: Number one Lyria Lyria. Yeah, would you just call it
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  Speaker 1: lily for short?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 1: H Lyria? What would I call it for? It kind
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  Speaker 1: of sounds like leary A mosquito would give you. I
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  Speaker 1: would love to have it though, yeah, malaria. So you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything. No, I wouldn't say anything. Okay, boy Darrow,
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  Speaker 1: I would advise you that sounds like Darrow like it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like because I think in Australia, we will shorten
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  Speaker 1: the word darrelict to Darrow and we all know what
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  Speaker 1: darrelict means, and we'll be like, oh what, that's such
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  Speaker 1: a darrow house. Darrow house, but Darrow. I would advise
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  Speaker 1: you that it sounds like Darrow, which is like but
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  Speaker 1: it's but it's spelled d A R R O W.
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  Speaker 1: That is trying to be different. Now, I'd lad to
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  Speaker 1: have it. Okay. What about Pax Pax? Yeah, I can
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  Speaker 1: that's the best word pas. Yeah, cool name, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: hardly to have that? Girl Victor? I feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: adding like Victor and picture picture, No that you have
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  Speaker 1: that too. What about boy Lysander? I think I would
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  Speaker 1: say it sounds like lys I'm glad you said that
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  Speaker 1: because we don't like licender. Yeah right. These all names
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  Speaker 1: that you've gone over. These are all names from a
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  Speaker 1: book I've read, Lysiandra. I've always thought had authors come
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  Speaker 1: up with a cool name Lysander. Yeah, so good question. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also posted a video last week of me saying like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, I posted it the other day. Well it
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  Speaker 1: was the other day from whatever recording this last week
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  Speaker 1: for everyone listening, it was about the whole last names thing,
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  Speaker 1: and I put in the caption like comment what mine
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  Speaker 1: and Beth's new last last name should be? And Beth's
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  Speaker 1: sitting on the lounge and she's reading the comments and
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  Speaker 1: she's laughing. There's a company called Calvert supply the hat
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  Speaker 1: I was wearing, and they commented, you should change it
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  Speaker 1: to Calvert. Also, don't hate that, Jake Calvet. Bethany Calvert like,
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  Speaker 1: you don't mind that, don't hate that. But Beth goes,
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  Speaker 1: what's with everyone commenting Ryerson'd? And I was like, hmmm, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think though, Jake Ryerson? Bethany Ryerson rolls
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  Speaker 1: off the tongue. She goes, is this from a book?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, She's from a book, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, how about before you start accusing,
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  Speaker 1: you start reading? Yeah, what's we've had a predisposition of
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  Speaker 1: books of the names, word of the week. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. That's from my brain. That was a good
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  Speaker 1: one though. She's a good question. I think I fucking
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  Speaker 1: loved the last name Ryerson.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you actually someone did make a good point
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  Speaker 2: in changing your last name.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of paperwork and we know you're
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  Speaker 1: against paperwork, I'm against admin. Yeah, that's like I'm again
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  Speaker 1: licenses past or. Its very yesterday. I just got I
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  Speaker 1: just ordered my birth certificate because my dad lost to
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  Speaker 1: one of his, sorry, the one of mine that he had.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it's sad. Also, what age does your birth
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  Speaker 1: certificate become your responsibility? Is his fault? I have a
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  Speaker 1: copy and that my parents have another copy, so I
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  Speaker 1: think they have the legit. And I got the copy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my dad had the legit. My mum had the copy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: has And so I was like, oh, I need I
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  Speaker 1: need my certificate so I can get my Canadian passport.
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  Speaker 1: Can you send it to me? And she's like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can send it to you can send it via
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  Speaker 1: some sort of special mail. So it's like a very
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  Speaker 1: low chance of getting lost. And then my Joanna said,
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  Speaker 1: you know you can just order one. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: can just get a replacement.
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  Speaker 2: You know that, because I had to get one really
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  Speaker 2: quickly for some reason I can't remember why.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only seventy bucks. Yeah, and I got
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  Speaker 1: another one. But pretty cool. Hell is this like somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in the world everyone's birth certificates, like it's obviously on
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  Speaker 1: a double days now. It's also pretty generic information, like
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  Speaker 1: it asked me a few questions about my name, date
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  Speaker 1: of birth, where I was born, dad's name, mum's name,
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  Speaker 1: and that was it. Yeah, there's really not much info
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  Speaker 1: on it. But I was ordering it. And you can
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  Speaker 1: get a commemorative birth certificate, yeah, the fancy ones of
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  Speaker 1: cool writing and shit. Yeah, so you can get in Australia,
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  Speaker 1: you can get like an indigenous one, and so I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at it. Man, it did say if you
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  Speaker 1: get a commemorative commemorative one, you can't use it for
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  Speaker 1: something like a passport. So I didn't get it, but
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  Speaker 1: you can get There is two options for this, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, two separate designs of Bluie no way you
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  Speaker 1: design commemorative birth certificates that had.
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  Speaker 1: the whole world shakes and he starts walking up the
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  Speaker 1: hill and everything shakes. Couldn't do that today, But so
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  Speaker 1: it's if I do say so of myself, blue is
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  Speaker 1: a modern day Pepper Pig. If Pepper Pig's parents liked
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  Speaker 1: to throw like parties with their friends in Bluey. There's
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  Speaker 1: just it's like almost geared towards adults. Slightly genius, Beck, We.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to start the episode with the relatables voice males.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, today, the.
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  Speaker 2: Prompt is cheating or not cheating, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it. So headphones on. I'm
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  Speaker 2: came for this, all right, Jake. I have three Two
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  Speaker 2: are connected, ones different. Two are connected in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: Don't tell me like she sent one and he sent one. No no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: let's start. So cheating or not cheating.
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  Speaker 4: You've had a long term boyfriend for two and a
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  Speaker 4: half years, and then one day you get really drunk
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  Speaker 4: with two of your friends and then you have a
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  Speaker 4: threesome with them, and then you say, oh, it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: cheating because they're all girls, right, But but then you say,
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  Speaker 4: do not tell him at all, and if he finds out,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to kill me. But it's fine because I'm straight.
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  Speaker 4: But you did also you did. You did also beg
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  Speaker 4: the other people to have sex with you because you
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  Speaker 4: were all drunk.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, interesting, tough start. I'm gonna say cheating.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say sexual intercourse with any gender that isn't
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  Speaker 2: your boyfriend or your boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Also talking about it like it didn't happen, but far
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  Speaker 1: too specific that it didn't happen everything though, like it's
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  Speaker 1: just a father. Jake just moent out to the par
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of beers. I was corny, didn't mean anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I still love you. Do you do you love
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  Speaker 1: it when I'm inside you? Oh? Yeah, of course your
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  Speaker 1: sex is way better than the sex ahead of them
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  Speaker 1: two girls. They're just friends. Okay, so experimental who instigated?
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  Speaker 1: If I did, well, you get angry. It's not what
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  Speaker 1: I asked, I just want to know who instigated me
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  Speaker 1: when I was drunk? You instigated when you were drunk
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  Speaker 1: when I was drunk? Yeah, emphasis on drunk. Were they
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  Speaker 1: like straight away into it or were you like took
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of convincing but then they into it.
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  Speaker 1: That's worse. It's much worse. But you're telling me you
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  Speaker 1: got drunk and begged on hands and knees for your
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  Speaker 1: two friends to have a threesome with you while we're together,
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  Speaker 1: and you still love me. It's so cheating. She was
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  Speaker 1: like gaslighting herself in there. I think, come, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: tell you if you're still with him? M to me,
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  Speaker 1: it sounded like she hasn't told him. Also, it could
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  Speaker 1: be by the fact that you're like, so obviously none
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  Speaker 1: of us are lesbians, because we were all just having
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  Speaker 1: a bit of fun. But don't tell my boyfriend because
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  Speaker 1: he'll kill me. The answer in itself is a night
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  Speaker 1: to be What a fucking night? All right? Next one
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  Speaker 1: they're connected, you'll see hi.
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  Speaker 5: So basically, my ex he went on a trip to
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  Speaker 5: Thailand and one night he was feeling it and he
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  Speaker 5: basically took some funny stuff with one of his friends
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  Speaker 5: that I only knew about him when they such other
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  Speaker 5: in Thailand and basically they were having the time of
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  Speaker 5: their lives and he well, they made out with the
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  Speaker 5: guy friend because it was the only way for them
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  Speaker 5: to show how much they loved each other. He never
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  Speaker 5: talked about it. He talked about the party, but he
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  Speaker 5: never said anything. And then when he came back after
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  Speaker 5: the trip, like two months later, he explained it to
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  Speaker 5: me like some kind of funny story.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it might be, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if guys usually they just make out
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  Speaker 5: with their guy friends just out of fun. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was not smoosh. It was like a proper meet out.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, let me know what you think.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, what do we think? First of all, I think
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  Speaker 1: that there is plenty of other ways to tell someone
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  Speaker 1: how you feel about them as a friend, come on,
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  Speaker 1: without having to make out with them. Also, words exist,
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  Speaker 1: you could say I really appreciate our friendship. You make
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  Speaker 1: me feel great. I love you. I was thinking though
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  Speaker 1: when we were it's gonna sound crazy to start. When
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  Speaker 1: we were on Gilly t in Bali, Yeah, we had
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  Speaker 1: a similar situation around Finish go On, Go on. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here for it, Guilly.
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  Speaker 2: T Ireland off Indonesia is known for fun in a
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  Speaker 2: sense of you can put two and two together, connect
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  Speaker 2: the dots.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think you need be more specific. Okay, what mushroom? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: no one was thinking that, But no one was thinking
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  Speaker 1: mushrooms the way you just explained that. Anyway, it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a swinger's island something. Maybe that's why I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go. No. Me and Jake were there and we
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  Speaker 1: had some fun. But I remember vividly tripping out looking
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  Speaker 1: up at the stars, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 2: Thinking how much I valued our friendship as well as
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  Speaker 2: one of our other friends.
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  Speaker 1: And not one time did I think I just got
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  Speaker 1: a lips change. That's what I was saying that. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what you did in that situation? You told me,
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  Speaker 1: I remember it. You told me nothing against him kissing it. God,
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  Speaker 1: but you had a girlfriend at the time. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would say it's cheating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like going back to the first one, any sort
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  Speaker 2: of irrespective of gender, kissing, hooking up, having sex.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cheating. Was also you were going to go on,
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  Speaker 1: so you're also called a friend to tell him and
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  Speaker 1: he cried.
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  Speaker 2: I was cute not friends with him anymore, all right,
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  Speaker 2: last one.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So I was talking to this guy for I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, like four months, and I'm Australian. I'm a
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  Speaker 6: twenty five year old from Australia born raised all right here,
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  Speaker 6: and he was twenty eight born raised in England, like
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  Speaker 6: he lives in England. So yes, very very very long distance.
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  Speaker 6: But besides the point, we were like doing all the
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  Speaker 6: stuff that you do in relationships with both the middle.
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  Speaker 6: We had feelings. We both admitted we wanted this to
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  Speaker 6: go further, Like he was planning to come to Australia,
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  Speaker 6: like the whole lot, and he like were obviously like
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  Speaker 6: sending like moods and stuff like that. But anyway, Oh
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  Speaker 6: and then I just before Christmas, I got this sudden
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  Speaker 6: urge to go like look at his page, like really
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  Speaker 6: like look at his page. And I ended up going
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  Speaker 6: back to like twenty eighteen, and I found him wearing
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  Speaker 6: a wedding ring. So I messaged him about it because
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  Speaker 6: why not. And I'm like, hey, like are you married?
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  Speaker 6: And he's like, hey, yeah, I actually am married. And
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh what the fuck, like what what? And
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  Speaker 6: he's like oh, but it's okay, it's not really cheating
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  Speaker 6: if it's international, And I'm like, what if I'm just
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  Speaker 6: you know, slowly slowly going insane over here, But like
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's not cheating if it's international, because like it's
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  Speaker 6: not you know, but is this cheating or no?
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: We used to have an acquaintance who was from Sydney, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and he would come to the Center Coast for holidays
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  Speaker 2: and completely wrong. He would say, there's an imaginary line
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  Speaker 2: between Sydney and the Center Coast a war. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: happens on one side doesn't affect what happens on the
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  Speaker 2: other side.
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  Speaker 1: And in Sydney was where his girlfriend lived.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, then uh fuck, yeah that was so I
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  Speaker 3: guess there is an ocean.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's cheating. Sure, that's insane. That's so insane.
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  Speaker 2: I feel bad all the other ones we got sent,
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  Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five, they were all blatantly cheating.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah I walked in Yeah, because she was
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  Speaker 1: sucking his deer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, like kissing another girl on a
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  Speaker 1: night out. Like, if you think it's cheating, cheating, we
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  Speaker 1: want one borderline. But all right, so next week, Jake,
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  Speaker 1: what is the question what made you realize that you
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  Speaker 1: are petty? Oo link will be in the description for
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  Speaker 1: and we want to know what made you, what made
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  Speaker 1: you realize you're petty? And maybe we'll tell you if
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you're petty or not. Yeah, I think so. We might
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  Speaker 1: back you up petty. Sometimes these things can be fully
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  Speaker 1: valid in my opinion. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you have a reason why you did
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  Speaker 1: the petty thing at that in there, yeah, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you. Alright, baddies, welcome back to our new segment.
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  Speaker 1: the week. Let's do it. Can I kick things off? Jake? Yes,
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• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Question of the week is is there a male loneliness
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: epidemic or just facing the consequences of their own actions?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Can I say what I think? Yeah? Okay, so that
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: should I said?
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: No?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, let's get it. I think that the word
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: epidemic is very making men feel like victims. It's almost
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: giving us an excuse. The word epidemic. It's so like, oh,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: poor us. There's a male loneliness epidemic, it should be
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: more like there is male loneliness. I mean, I actually
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if there is or not, because if there's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: male loneliness, then I assume there must be quite a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: bit of women loneliness as well. But it should just
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: be more like hands up, we okay. So I was
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: thinking thinking about it earlier. You need to think about
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it like how women back in the day, obviously we're
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: like this patriarchy's fucked. You know. Men used to be
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and quite often still are, like terrible to women. So
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: they were like, well, we're not just going to cry
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: about it and just blame, blame, blame, We're going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: do something about it. And they did and they still are,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, but they like basically emancipated themselves from them.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So I think the same thing needs to happen. Instead
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of being like poor me, we need to be like, yep,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: society did raise us like this, and instead of just
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: going this is society's fault, what do you expect from me?
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Society raised us like this, So it's like, obviously something
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: went wrong. Let's learn how to do it right, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: let's teach the new generation how to do it right
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: instead of just being like male loneliness epidemic, Like it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: almost like it's being blamed on women.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I agree, because the debate is the rate of single
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: men's going up, yep, the rate of depression in men's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: going up, the rate of suicide men's going up. Last one,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: very real problem. But I agree with you in a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sense of there's a lot of blaming going on and
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: not a lot of accountability.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Accountability is a perfect word, yeah, which.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I think sparks a very interesting debate, and yeah, it's good.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So my first one.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Kind of going off exactly what we're saying, is there
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a male loneliness epidemic or just facing the consequences of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: their own actions. There is a male's not wanting to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: evolve epidemic.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's a very good way to put it, you know, evolution,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that's a very good way to put it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like thinking about it, men love to just
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: point and they say this is the reason I can't
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: help it. Yeah, it's the generations before me and I'm
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: just I'm here as a result, Yeah, there's no evolving,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: whereas like to your point, women evolved to sort the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: issue at hand, it's still an issue and they get better.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting funny that it just everything feels as
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: though we need to point a finger, like it's okay,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's like this. I feel like there's a lot of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: people saying women don't want to have children anymore. So
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it's like that's kind of a geared sentence. You know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not super I don't know woke or political like that,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: but it's like a very geared sentence because it's like, women,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: how dare you not want to have children anymore? But like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: but if I was a woman, I don't want to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: have children with you. It's like this sentence should be, Hey, men,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: women don't want to have children with us anymore? How
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: can we fix that? Like it's not the women's problem,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, how can we fix this men's male issue
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: instead of you know, it's like the way sentences are worded, well.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the evolution of men in the sense of men
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: used to be provide and that's all you have to do,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: roof over the head, food on table, that's it, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: then you're a man.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where women.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Have realized that Wait a second, I can do that
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: myself and I don't have to deal with all your
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: fucking shit.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why would I have a kid with you? Just
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to get that women can literally have a kid via
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: artificial insemination or whatever. I think I think it's Is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it artificial insemination? Is that what's called? Yeah, basically they
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: can have a kid without us now yeah, yeah, yeah
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Anyway, my first one, I've got a long answer.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I went from the replies on the story from the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: perspective of a woman being blamed. I think women have
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: realized that we don't have to fall into once into
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the once prevalent societal pressures of finding a man to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: settle down with and have kids. We know our worth
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and value our time. This means that subpar men are
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: no longer being put up with because we've realized we
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: actually don't have to deal with their bullshit. Men also
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: historically know very little about their friends, don't ask questions,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and don't invest time or effort into having deeply rooted,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: emotional and supportive relationships with their friends like women do.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I think the story should be less along the lines
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of male loneliness and more so geared toward men learning
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to be better partners, to become reliable friends, and to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: build relationships with their friends, family, and loved ones from
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the ground up. Anyone who blames a woman for this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: issue needs to learn to be a better man. Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That really like iron into the two points of relationships,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: platonic with their friends as well as loving relationships with
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: their partners. Men don't know how to do either of them. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: and as a result, they're lonely because of how bad
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: they are in relationships.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's yeah. I saw another one that said, like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there is a male loneliness epanemic and
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it's and it's because men genuinely just don't like women. Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the way they act,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: They're like, they don't like women as people. They just
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: objectify them. Yeah, And I guess it's like again, I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: think the more conversations had about needing to take accountability
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: instead of being like poor us, hopefully the more it
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: shifts towards going in the right direction. I think.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So I like to we like to play Devil's Advocate
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: on the podcast, and we get a lot of comments.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: With ah, we bashed men a little bit, and we
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like to.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know right now I'm trying to play
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: devil's advocate in the sense of like where could their
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: mindset be in a sense of.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Like I don't see it. I mean, well, right now though,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like we're not even bashing men, we're kind of just saying,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: like the answer is is accountability?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Is there any justifications to why a man can be
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: lonely and have all these problems outside of it's their fault?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I don't actually know.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only argument I can see them say saying
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: is generational things.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Because again though like yeah, yeah, generational is like as
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: an excuse, yeah, exactly, And it's like if you know
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it's generational, you know it's generational, you know the answer.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Therefore you know how to come up with a solution. Yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It's they're accepting something when it shouldn't be accepted. Yeah,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it's actually it's very Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean I gotta say, like I didn't know. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: don't think I've always thought like this, But I also
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: don't think that even you know, at least in my
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: small bubble of life, like the term male loneliness epidemic,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: didn't hear that till probably last year. Agreed, you know
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, when we were younger, it wasn't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a thing that we heard well.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: In our relationships, our platonic relationships. We have said countless
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: times that we've lost majority of our friends, the older
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: we've got semi as a result of this podcast, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: also in hindsight, looking at it now, it's because even
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: we didn't know how to have relationships we've men.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like our relationships with our friends just clearly
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: weren't that strong.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and we said that too, like surface level stuff.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: The only two that I've maintained is I didn't do
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: it on purpose by any means. Is I formed a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: deeper connection with them because we had shit going on
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: in our lives and for some reason it felt right
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to talk to them about that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that was two out of fifteen people.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I lost the rest of them because it
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: was so surface level and there was no relationship there.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at it now, Yeah, it's funny. It's really funny.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Like I would say I have a there's a couple
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a couple of friends that I say, we have one
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: mutual that was part of our friend group that I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: would still is definitely still a friend. And then I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: have another friend who I just have a few friends
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that I was closer with when I was younger, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: then after growing up a bit, maybe starting the podcast
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and having it maybe do kind of well, I was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: only really a couple that I felt genuinely like, good
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: for you, you know what I mean? And well I
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: don't get And again it's not like a poor me situation.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's just like a cool observation. I feel like that's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: what they were really.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I would even categorize it as I'm sure it happens
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in different places, but an Australia problem, an Australian men problem,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: because great example being Kelly Holiday, he made a brilliant
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: song came second in the Tottest one hundred for Triple J.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The amount of shit that bloke gets for making a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: brilliant song is insane. Australia six Season is an Australian
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: artist comes second the Hottest one hundred. Fucking one of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the probably the best songs in the past three years
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: ever come out and he just gets shit on because
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he's doing well, yeah, and a lot.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Of people supporting. Everyone hates his girlfriend, yeah, and he
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: loves his girlfriend and also like advocates for women in general,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and he cops shit for it. Like I keep seeing
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: these videos of this one guy online that dresses up
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: like Kelly Holiday and then acts like Kelly Holiday, but
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: then will be like, I don't know, I just need
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom when he goes into the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: girl's bathroom, like saying that he is a woman or
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: something like that. And so I think that, Look, the
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: guy making those videos obviously made one and it went viral.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he makes them because he
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: genuinely hates Kelly Holiday or if he makes them because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: he thinks they're funny. But the thing is is like
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: doing that is sending like the wrong message, if that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: makes sense. So it's like the guy that makes the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: videos is probably doesn't hate women, or maybe he does
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: have no idea and he probably doesn't want women to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: be fucking murdered and he doesn't you know, he probably
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't want that. You know, no one wants that. But
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like he is actually doing the opposite of what should
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: be done. Hard to work, I'm trying to you know what, like, yeah, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: it's the younger generation that sees those videos. Is he's like, yeah, yeah,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it seems.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Like a surface level problem in a sense, but it
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: has a way biggest bill ever effect. And I don't
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: know if it's just Australia, but it seems to be
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: successful men especially as well. No, it is just men
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: and other men hate on them just because it's easier
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to hate and bring people down than it is to
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: compliment and celebrate people's successes.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: He's not just hat he's not just bullying Kelly Holiday. No,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: he's like maybe intentionally, maybe unintentionally sending a message that, like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: you should not be like Kelly Holiday because that makes
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you a fucking pussy woman. That's what he's saying, right,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and that's how so many young people are gonna take it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And I when I watched them, it makes me cringe.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you fucking hating on a dude
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that's actually trying to make a bit of a difference
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and use his platform to make a bit of a difference.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It's a great role model, fantastic. He always sticks up
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: for his girlfriend, like and and like always like advocates
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: women and stuff, and he just cops hate for it
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: for some reason.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: He's also openly I think it's confronting in a sense.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: He's I've seen videos in before, openly talked about his
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: growth as a man, to see that an Abby as
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend has taught him a lot of things as well. Yeah,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and I think it's confronting for men who don't want
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to admit that they've done something in the wrong, that's
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: past wha was he has admitted in the past that
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: he's done things that are wrong.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the whole thing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Where they can't take accountability round circle to mainly male
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: loneliness epidemic. There's no way in the world any man
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: could say I'm part of the problem.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: But that's like that is And it took me so
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Beth is actually the one that explained to me that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: all of the quote unquote good men, right, Obviously, there's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: heaps of good men, obviously, but it is the good
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: men that won't accept that even though they're good men,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: they're part of the problem because nothing is done about it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Like women can't fix this issue. The bad men aren't
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: going to fix this issue because they enjoy it. It's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the fucking quote unquote good men that actually need to
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: step up and fix the issue or at least try.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: M hm. But everyone's like, but I'm a good man, Yeah,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: watch anything, but I'm a good man, Like Okay, it's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: part of the problem be a good man. Then yeah,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like and again like guilty, You've been like that before.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I've been like that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: It's trying to explain the thinking of when you are
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: like that. You don't realize the magnitude of the problem
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: when you're in it. Yeah, you just think, Yeah, you
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: have these spillover comments in your brain where you're just like,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that's just how so and.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So is Yeah, that's yeah. And then it's like, I'm
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: not like that. Yeah, I'm not like yeah, yeah, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that's just who he is. And you take offense like
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people would probably take offense to being
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like so, I know, I know, like it would be
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: hard to hear yeah, like there's probably more that we
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: could do and more we could have done, and there
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: is more that we probably will need to do and
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: hearing someone be like yeah, but you know, you just
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you think, for a guy that feels like he's done
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: everything right his whole life, if you get told but
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you've been doing this one thing, you get defensive, Oh
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: yeah you do. And again you just need to be like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know what, fuck, that's valid acceptance.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's I don't know what the shift can be.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It's almost like so many things then to happen for
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: there to be a change.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think that just like the thing that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: needs to be done is it just needs to be
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: talked about, that just has to be a start. Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Is there a male loneliness epidemic or just facing the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: consequences of their own actions? Most men are quite lustful
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and the others aren't actually intentional with dating. Before they
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: take girls out, a lot of them try to impress
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: girls rather than actually get to know someone, and when
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they do that, we can see their insecurities rather than
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: healthy detachment and confidence. Most men need to build up
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: their own lives to offer us something, and they actually
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: need to start being happy by themselves first rather than
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: looking for someone to feel that loneliness hole in them.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Most of them have the character of a brick.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Right Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's definitely not I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's wrong. Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It kind of comes back to how you said how
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: men view women in a sense too.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: M m yeah, true. Yeah, but you know women a
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: lot of time the men will look women as an
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: object and also, like you know how there's this like
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: sort of narrative where you know, sometimes quite often you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: see it on like a TikTok video where to be
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like women won't like you unless you have X y
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Z type shit. And it's also like when has a
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: woman a woman sorry, ever actually been the one to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: say that, Like, so many men think that they need
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to have money, a fucking six pack. They think that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: just existing women should worship them and shit like that. Yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like they've never even heard a woman say that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: They've only ever heard like a fucking red pill man
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: say that on a TikTok video. Yeah, so you know
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Again, they're the reason there's a problem.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, and I'm thinking too of like there's no
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: substance in a lot of men.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I think you would be right. Yeah, that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: sounds right. And you don't know why because we've never
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: had a deep relationship with a friend. Yeah, I've never
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: been able to know. We've never been able to show
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: our personality because we're all fucking like you go.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: To the pub and talk to the boys, and you
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: do this in a lot of life, but there's no
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: deeper connection.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: You talk about the same ship, footy betting, fucking how
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: hard work was, Yeah, that's it, how much you hate work.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: How much you hate work, and that's the extent, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: then you just get fucked up. And then when you
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: get too fucked up, you actually talk about how much
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you appreciate someone as a mate. And that's the only
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: time it will ever come out is when you're extremely intoxicated,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and then you never talk about it again when you're sober.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I know, they're like, the only time a friend of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: friends ever told me about family issues as well, like
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: fucked up, and I'm like, I remember, it's a great example.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I won't any names because it was quite a They
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: had two bad things in their life happened, and what
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: they would do because their men and they didn't have
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the tools to talk about it when they weren't intoxicated.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Every single weekend they would get absolutely fucked up and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: do an absolute all nighter and talk about all their
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: feelings all weekend, and then when they was sober a
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: week never talk about again, get head noise, do it
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: all over again. And it was just this rotation of unhealthiness,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and the only way they could ever talk about it
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: was with alcohol getting fucked and that went on for
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: like three months. This is just a question. Right, that's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: clearly an unhealthy way to go about it. But I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: wonder if it worked. I wonder if it helped.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: But I think the result of that was you can't
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: help but feel sorry for someone who has to do
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that because they've had a traumatic thing happened to them.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the byproduct was maybe it did help,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: but this person's association with alcohol now is just dark. Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: because all we ever did was talk about dark shit
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: when he was so maybe it did work, like not
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: promoting it at all. No, No, it's terrible to go
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: about just trying to think.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I can wonder if it helped it all. Yeah, that's
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that's the extent that men will go to to talk
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: about these deep things, rather than just saying, hey, man,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like I'm having troubles at home with my family. I know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: like I'm sad. Fuck. Maybe we should try Maybe we
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: should like start trying a thing on here. We could
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: do it off the pot as well. We could have
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like something like, what's something that maybe has like made
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you feel happy this week? What's something made you feel
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: sad this week? What like have you felt anxious this week?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe we should start trying that I like that. Oh
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: hell yeah. Sometimes when I find like if I'm anxious,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I very like, I don't know. Maybe once a week
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: feel a bit of anxiety. I'm like, I know that
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: this is an anxious feeling, but I don't know why
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I'm anxious. Yeah, you said that a fair bit, you
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: It's like that feeling in your gut and a sense
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: of I often go through my my I have it
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: as well, and what I do in my head is
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: like go through different things of why it could be nervous,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and I tick all these things off.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they're fine. That's so funny. We're so
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: fucking like robotic as men. We're so logical, Like, Okay,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I'm anxious. This shouldn't happen. I'm not allowed to be human.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Let me list off everything that could make me anxious.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: What's everything that's happening right now? I mean, hey, if
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it's coping. If it is, it's just so funny how
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: logical we are today in the car, Beth and I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: drove you together, and we drive past Macas and get
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: a coffee. This is like so funny. So BET's like, oh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: can you please get me a regular iced dirty chai
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with like extra extra ice because Macis never does much ice.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: She's like, I want extra extrace and so I asked,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: so extra and so I was like, so fair, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: so I asked, I said, can I get extra extra ice?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And I kind of like laughed, and I was like
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: trying to not sound like someone that's like super demanding.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, I want them to think like, you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: we just asked for ext rice because clear we never
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: get a strice. Yeah, And so she repeated it back
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: to me and she's like with the extra extra ice.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And I was like, sweet, she's emphasized it. Yeah. And
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: so then we we wait in the waiting bay and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: they bring out Beth's thing and they she's looking at it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: They walk off and she's looking at it and it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: just like a thin layer of ice on the top.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And I was and she goes, she was like she
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was annoyed. Obviously, she goes, it's just annoying because they
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: always always do this, you know, they always do it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And so I you went back in no, oh, I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: could have could have just fucking free. I don't know
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: why they are. Yeah, And so I was like, don't
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: say it, don't say it, don't say it, don't say it,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: don't say it. Why do you even get them from me? Oh?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I was like, look, she's annoyed. Yeah, fair,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: We asked for extra extrace they didn't give it to us.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: But I was just like, I really wanted to just
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be like, here's the thing. Though it was gonna make
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: it her issue. That's why I didn't do it. Bad
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: boyfriend if I did this. But what I wanted to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: say was like, why do you even get cough of me?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: If you know what's gonna be bad? But like she's
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: given a chance. See that's a bad thing that I do.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I'm always like and I'm like making it so like
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: best the issue, and I'm thinking, like, you know, fuck,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: mackis how do you.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Bring up a problem? This is actually really good broad
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: spectrum for men. So say one person, partner, friend, is
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: feeling one way about something and their emotions are valid
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to them, but you strongly feel different about said thing.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: How do you voice that without invalidating the other person?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: That's actually the fucking best question because I've always wondered,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: so sometimes people do have feelings like so I've always
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: been a big or not always actually maybe in recent years,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I don't like to invalidate someone's feelings because I don't
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: know how they're feeling. You know, they feel a tough
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: way about this thing. I think it's dumb, but they don't.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But like, sometimes feelings probably just do need to be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: black and white invalid So how do you tell that
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to someone who's feeling a certain type of way about
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a thing.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a question because it happened in
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: my relationship recently. We had a fight about it because
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I was taking accountability. I was invalidating her, but I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: was trying to I felt differently about it. I was
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: trying to voice how I felt, but that inherently made
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: me seem like I was invalidating her.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess you were, and I was,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't voice that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: We calmed down and talked about it, and I tried
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: to explain that exact conversation to you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I wasn't invalidating you.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I felt differently about it, and I understand where you're
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: coming from, but I I couldn't put it into words
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: at all, and I was just fucking rambling about that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like you just need to listen. You
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just need to listen. But I guess you have a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: difference of opinion. I don't know. I think that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Because round circle again. I'm round circling a lot the
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: male loneliness epidemic. A lot of men feel very strongly
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: about a thing, and their way of saying that is saying, no,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: my way is right, you're always wrong. I think the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: first bit is to take accountability and you're allowed to
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: believe whatever the fuck you want. But also you have
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: to accept that whatever's in that person's head is right
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: to them.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fair to an extent obviously. Yeah, yeah, we know
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: what things about it? Yeah yeah, I mean just like, yeah,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like an opinion, yeah, yeah, yeah, opinion.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: But god, that's such a good question. I don't even know. So,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: so the situation isn't like because let's say you're complaining
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: about something and I know how to fix the problem.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: It's like sometimes you just don't want to hear how
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to fix the problem. You just want me to. Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I got the best scenario.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sure this friend won't mind me saying I'm not
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: going to say his name, but he is an anti vaxxer. Yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: And he's against vaccination, right, okay, and he knows he's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: trying to date women. He's actually a nice guy, really
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: nice guy. I really like him. And but he he
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: knows that his problem for being single is that his
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: opinion on vaccinations is that you shouldn't have them. Yeah,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: and he knows he's the problem, but he won't change.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, someone you very strong opinion, you
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: are allowed.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: To be an anti vaxxer. I guess. But like when
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: he's meeting women, is the conversations about vaccines coming up,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: and he's like, oh no, they're they're the worst thing ever,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Like I'm an anti vaxxer. And if then she goes,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: well I think vaccines are good, and then he's like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: fuck you, you're wrong. No.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's more just like all right, well I
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: don't want to continue this date anymore.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: This would be this is oh him or yeah, but
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want a date if a person that likes vaccination, yeah, yeah,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's just his problem. Like you just need
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to find an anti vaxxer. I guess.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: But I feel like that's what men do. They'd be
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: just like, rather than resolve in the issued hand, they go.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Like, well, it's just like that's just how I am.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I don't believe vaccination.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I only found this out recently for me too as
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: a friend of this relationship. Although I don't agree with it,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I can respect the decision. Yeah, Like I mean, it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: not my life.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: So that's the things where I was like, I don't know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is being an anti vaxxer a friendship ending thing? Like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: am I not getting something because to me? So to me,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I would say no as well, because it's like you
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: not wanting to be vaccinated doesn't affect me being vaccinated.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I would disagree if you like didn't get your children vaccinated,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But again it's like those are your children, they're not mine.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So it's like, because you know how you know, being
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: friends with someone that's like racist is like a line
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and a friendship ending thing. Is being an anti vaccer
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: like that? And there's something I'm missing comment I want
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to know genuinely because like, yeah, but then it doesn't
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: come back to the problem at hand. Is is that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a problem?
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: And we should instead of being like, well, this doesn't
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: affect me, we should be like, you know, vaccinations are
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: actually proven to be really good and saved a lot
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of societies, and we voice that is that where the
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: problem is at hand?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let me think about this. If someone
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: was an anti VAXXA and they were like trying to
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: preach it on me, I'd be like, you're annoying. But
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: he's not like that. Yeah, So it's more like if
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: it just comes up to conversations, Yeah, I don't get vaccinated.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about it, about it, but like,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: don't try and sway mic, Like I'm happy to have
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a debate.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And his opinion is why quite he's not, but why
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: he's lonely and doesn't have a partner. It's because of that,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: and I think broader spectrum, a lot of men have
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of those opinions way worse than that. Opinionated
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: things about politics, race, la la la la lah list goes.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: On and on and on, and rather than admit that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: there could be other ways to view the world, they
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: just die on their high horse. They do love the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Dinah hill. Yeah, yeah, the whole and like it's not understanding, Yeah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they love the DNA hill. That's the thing again, is
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like this friend, Right, Let's say someone has a ulmost
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: argument of being like oh no, here's why I disagree
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: with any VAX's And in his head when he hears
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this argument, he goes, dang, that's actually makes a lot
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of sense. Men love to just be like I still disagree.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: They hate to be like you just rearranged everything I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: believe in, which is fine. You're allowed to change. YEA
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: four years ago, I was like, I'm not getting married
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: if them, if they're not going to take my last name.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: And then someone sent a comment or like send us
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a message, and so to me, this still annoys me. Oh,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I had this opinion, and I tried telling you and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to listen to you. Yeah, someone actually is because you're
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: not articulate, and so someone articulately placed it very well,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: and I was like, valid, who's a fuck? Like who
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: actually gives a fuck? Or or maybe my friend eleged, we're
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: going to stop talking to you and to start writing
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: stuff down. You should make a ghost accounts and never
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I have an opinion that you disagree with, make ghost
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: accounts and leave a comment. And then I'm swayed by the.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Bad I also think too, to any certain extent, how
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the baddie said alone of men's personalities are.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Like a brick wall.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those personality traits is admitting when you're wrong.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It's quite a good trait to have. Yeah, yeah, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: men don't see it that way. They think I should
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: be so authoritariative whatever the world is. Well, i'm right
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and you're wrong. I should make all calls and I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: am right, and even if I'm wrong, yeah, you're right,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: You're very right. And that's like also comes down to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: make maybe some sort of a human nature thing, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just scary to admit you're wrong and
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: someone else is right, and like in the next scenario,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you might be right and they might be wrong, you know.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: But to summarize all this in an articulate way, we'll
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: say that the male loneliness epidemic is caused by men
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: who can't accept that they are part of the problem,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and the first way to make a change is acceptance.
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• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Could show snippets.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I guess you could do it the exact same format
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  Speaker 1: be cool if we could somehow be this show that
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  Speaker 1: did get the right to do this goggle Box style thing.
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  Speaker 1: I would love that. Saying I would love that can
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• 51:37
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wha. These sex scenes are intense and then
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: kind of just like exposure therapy, didn't bat Night at
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: a single one. You just end up not giving a
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: ship because like in Game of Thrones, you know how
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the sex scenes, even when they're heterosexual, they're just like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: intense and you're like, holy fuck, you didn't they You
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of come become exposure therapy. Same thing, didn't
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: care at all? Okay, good show, I recommend.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: It alrighty, and it is time for one of the
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: baddies to sign off the episode. If you want to
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: sign off the episode. The link will be in the description.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I'm actually scared to say a name right now, let's
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: try j call it before.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It says j Jade. What's Jade? Yeah? What did you spell? Hello? Jade?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Is that you? Yeah? Jade? This is Jake United from Latables?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: How are you going? Oh? Good things? How are you
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: very very well? Got Audie to my left over here,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: say hello, Hello, we've called Jade before. I'm having Oh
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: what did we call Jane like two weeks ago?
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: For real?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Aldi's job and he's done this twice,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. Now, oh my god, I'm
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: sorry it might effect. We tried two other people first,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Have you got advice down the podcast? You're going to
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: do it again? Want you again?
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can do it again.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Am I signing off?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Signing off? Something off? Something off? Oh right, he
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: really put me on the spot. Yeah, this is how
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: we know we got good bad the public holiday exactly.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: That's why everyone should be picking up their phone. We're working.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: We're not even getting double paid. He isn't even paying
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: me double with Yeah, that's because you're not doing your job.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: You should take capability to no I reckon.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: Oh gosh, I can be mean to men.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: To men, yes, let's just be mean until they get better?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, don't feed the male ego, don't make
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a change. Well, thank you very much, Jade. I'm sorry
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: for calling you again. That's my bad. That's okay, like deleted.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You should block this number, j Yeah, I'll blocked the number.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your test. Yes, a fucking man.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks by. I think it might be time to have
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a bit of a even though it's not even one
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: month in the year, gonna have a one month review
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: with Audien and his work. His performance review.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I tried hard today We're gonna have a performance review
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and see how whiteboard.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I tried so hard. Stay bad,