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Something Bizarre is Happening In China (Are We Next?) · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. I have a very special guest in my studio, Mr. Rob Counts. Welcome to the Man in America show.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me, Seth. It's great to be here, man.
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  Speaker 1: That's good, man. Very good to be here. So I would love to introduce you, but you're gonna introduce yourself quite well. So just give us a little bit of background into just, you know, what the research you've done, the show that you had before before getting kicked off for censorship and what you're doing right now.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. So I'm actually the host of a show called Edge of Wonder, and we started that show in about 02/2018, January of '2 thousand '18. And the whole goal behind Edge of Wonder was basically to dig into the things that, at the time, the mainstream media just weren't talking about.
• 0:46
  And it could have been anything from strange occurrences to things happening politically. We just would dig into anything. People wanted to know our thoughts on it, and we would always ask people really not to listen to us and to do their own research. Really, that was kind of the the standpoint is we really wanted people to start thinking for themselves again because it seemed like everyone was just listening to a talking head on CNN or somewhere else, you know. And, actually, it kind of exploded.
• 1:10
  In in less than a year, we had about 390,000 subscribers. In in February, a year later, YouTube started to throttle different channels that were, you know, trying to find the truth, which was hard. We stayed at about 390,000 subscribers all of February. And then what's crazy is a couple of days before the election, the morning that the Hunter Biden laptop Hold on.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: Hold That's that's a conspiracy theory. The whole Biden laptop thing was is completely made up. I fact checked it before we came on the show today Yeah. Just to make sure.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: If you fact check it, it definitely is a conspiracy theory. What makes me think it wasn't a conspiracy theory is the fact that our 500,000 subscriber YouTube channel got taken down the morning the Hunter Biden laptop story dropped. And we had no community strikes on YouTube or anything like that, but just poof like that, all of this hard work that we did disappeared. Luckily, we were on in the background creating Rise TV, which was edgeofwonder.TV at the time. We rebranded that after being attacked by the mainstream media for a really long period and painful period of time.
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  And here we are, you know, Edge of Wonder is still doing what it does. We're trying to regrow our subscription base. And, you know, Seth and I have always been great friends. We used to work in media together and it's just Back
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  Speaker 1: in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's pretty awesome that we get to sit here right now and and I'll say
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: that actually, so you and your co host, Ben. Yeah. You guys taught me a lot of what I know about. Just, you know, because you guys were diving into this back in 2017, '20 '18. Yeah.
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  The, you know, the deep state and the bloodlines and the World Economic Forum and the UN. And I learned so much about what I now do, even especially communism. You guys did
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Some deep dives on communism, which is really important because so today's show, there's two big topics we're gonna be digging into. One is some crazy stuff that's happening in China right now with lockdowns and COVID and a lot of it doesn't make sense.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of red flags it raises. But I think the more important topic we're gonna be addressing today is, is Xi Jinping a white hat? Is he working with Putin and Trump to bring on the deep state, or is he just trying to advance the global communist goals of the CCP? So Rob and I both independently have done a lot of research on communism, especially communism under China. And we think that we're both seeing a lot of folks talking about, like, hey, maybe Xi's a white hat and maybe China's trying to help us take on the deep state.
• 3:50
  I think that it's a really important topic to dig into.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only that, but just over the last, like, couple of months, which one of us who's creating content hasn't dug into the World Economic Forum and all of the crazy stuff around the Great Reset. I've been watching your stuff. It's awesome. Like, all of this all of the research you you guys have been doing on this, and it's a really important and then I just feel that there is even over the last couple of months, I've noticed that people really still don't understand China.
• 4:19
  They don't understand the CCP, the history of the CCP, and how that mechanism there functions. So this show is really important for, I think, everyone for us to understand and have a conversation about what's really going on because things aren't always as straightforward as they seem. You
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: know? And it's easy to say that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I think that the Chinese Communist Party should never be
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: No. The enemy of your enemy still can be your enemy. Exactly. So we're gonna be
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: digging after that. But before we can jump in, a few things. One is that if you aren't following us on social media, you can find me. I'm most act actually, both of us are most active on Telegram and Truth Social.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I'm as man in America. You're on as Rob Counts.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: At Rob Counts. And then you can also find us at Edge of Wonder Official on a bunch of these different places.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: So on my telegram, Am I Truth social after the show today, I'll share the places where you can follow Rob and what he's doing because you guys are still doing some incredible work, some deep dives. You your show and I'll share your show actually for folks afterwards, but you did this amazing infographic. Working on Yeah, going into the World Economic Forum and the great reset and how it ties into the bio labs in Ukraine. And that was an incredible graphic that you did that I'll make sure to share that show for my followers.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Yeah, that'd be great.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: So one thing that's really important. This show is literally brought to you by Rise TV. So Rob is one of my co hosts. For those of you that are part of Rise TV, you see our bearded faces all time together. But Rob is one of the co hosts and as you mentioned, one of the original co founders of what has become Rise TV.
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  And Rise TV is why we can do this full time.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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• 6:16
  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: And Rise TV is how we're able to do that because as Rob said, he lost over a million half a million followers on YouTube, which was their entire revenue stream at that time. I'm demonetized all the time. So Rise TV is how we're able to do this full time. If you want to support us, if you're in a position to support us, you can join Rise TV. It's $9.99 a month.
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• 6:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think the news out there is really rough right now. And what we're trying to do also is provide a community where people don't feel as alone. It's it's a really light hearted community. We have a great time over there. And we actually, it's not, you know, a lot of content creators out there like, hey, you know, you can support me in this way and this way, but BuysTV actually gives back.
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• 7:34
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• 7:41
  Speaker 1: Alright. So let's go ahead and dive into today's show. So we have a handful of videos and articles to show you today. So the first one that as I mentioned in the beginning, there's some crazy stuff happening with lockdowns in China. Now, if you watched my interview with Michael Sanger, who wrote the book about this, the a lot of what we saw happening in Wuhan, I believe was a SIOP.
• 8:02
  I think that I believe there was something really intense spreading in China that they were covering up. But a lot of what we saw, whether it was the Chinese whistleblower doctors coming out and then disappearing, or the people that were falling over in the streets because they had COVID and die, which we never saw that happen in America. A lot of that seemed to be done to orchestrate this global lockdown of all these countries to China's benefit. But what's happening now raises some really, really just strange questions of like, what now? Because they've
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: got What's the difference between what's going on in China, really, and what's happening in the West? I think that's also something that they're they're very separate things.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And unfortunately, it will kinda we'll dig into this. It looks like you can see Fauci planting the seeds, a lot of the politicians planting the seeds, but COVID, I don't think is done in America. And I believe that their plan is after they get through the midterms, right now, they're on their best behavior.
• 9:01
  They wanna get reelected. You know, even Biden's trying to, you know, trying to to be on a little better behavior but failing. But I think that once we get through these midterms, they do plan on bringing this back.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of research to back that up, I think. You find it out there if you're looking in different places about a longer term plan that these elites, globalists, whatever you want to call them have, you know, going on in the background. Yeah.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: So let's pull up this first article here. So this is from Vision Times, which Vision Times is a it's just visiontimes.com. It's a fantastic resource, especially for China. They cover a lot of China stuff that you're not gonna find in the mainstream media.
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: They're doing a great job, especially in regards to China.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. So this is it's kinda sad, actually. So what's happening, and I'll read a little bit for you here, is so as we mentioned, they're locking down major cities. They're locking down Shenzhen.
• 9:58
  Shenzhen is in basically across the border from Hong Kong. Right? I've been there many times. It's a massive it's like the size of New York City. Right.
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  They've they're locking down Shanghai. So there's tens of millions. I think there's over 40,000,000 people right now in China that are on under lockdown. Mhmm. So let me just do a read this quickly.
• 10:17
  So people in Shenzhen jump off buildings in protest of prolonged lockdowns under China's COVID Zero measures. And so what it says here, it says China has imposed stay at home orders on millions more people in the country's Northeast as it tries to tackle its largest outbreak of COVID-nineteen cases since the pandemic started over two years ago in Wuhan. So this is the largest outbreak since the beginning. Just keep in mind. They say that China has imposed more lockdowns, mass testing, and travel restrictions over the past week than any point in the pandemic.
• 10:53
  So what think about that. China is now imposing more lockdowns than even the beginning of the pandemic. So why is
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: this coming back? That's really significant because the lockdowns were very serious at the early stages. They were scrambling to appear normal on the world stage. So that's pretty serious.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: It is. But what's crazy is what's happening, I'm not going to play these videos for you because
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: You can watch them yourself.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: Hard to see. But people are jumping off of buildings to protest these. So here we see the article continues, woman jumps from building, others starve. Recently, lockdown residents in Shenzhen have posted videos on social media showing the dire situation they are in after weeks of being locked indoors and food supplies rapidly running out. So you can see the what that video would entail.
• 11:46
  That's a woman that's free falling from a skyscraper. It continues. There's this is another video of someone jumping off a building in China. Now these are just mass protests. So what they're saying is that the in this video above, a large number of police officers can be seen trying to keep an angry group of people under control as they protest the death of a resident who starved to death during the lockdowns.
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  And they can be heard saying a person has starved to death. So and they're saying we want to eat. We're starving to death. We have no food. So this is an important point with this is that sorry.
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  Hey, Kate. I just wanna go back to us. The little button froze for the the two of us together. There we go. So we're gonna work on a new setup here.
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  An important point to make here is that, like, you know, in Ohio, we had lockdowns. But lockdowns meant that, you know, restaurants closed at 10:00 instead of 02:00, or it meant that the grocery store is still open, but something else was closed down. A lockdown in China is very different than what we're used to in America.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There are some videos of them even on truckers putting tape across their doors. They're not allowing the truckers to get out of their trucks, and if that is ripped, they get fined or worse. So it's it's very different.
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  Speaker 1: Not to mention, like, welding doors shut. So like they're they're locked down. So we'll dig into that. But actually, wanted to show a video for you here. So let's pull up this this.
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  So if you watch me, you hear me talk a lot about food security. And I'm always telling you, like, folks, you please, if you can get to a rural area, learn how to garden, learn how to produce your own food. If you can't do that, at least stock up on rice and beans because what we're gonna show you next is this is the grocery stores in China and in Shanghai right now. This is what they're experiencing. So let's go ahead and pull this up for you.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing on Michelle's. Why is that
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  Speaker 1: guy laughing? Like he's happy he has all his vegetables.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Man, that's hard to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gosh. That's I I mean, I think it's also it's good for people to see that because and we're not gonna segue too much into this, but Biden's talking about the world economics talking about, you know, I'm talking about it. They are manufacturing a massive global food shortage. If you look at the fertilizer, if you look at the, you know, the fact that places like Ukraine, where the world gets almost a quarter of its wheat from is not even able to plant this season.
• 15:24
  Right. They're missing the winter to plant because of the war over there. That could be America. And I don't want to be a fearmonger, but I think that within the next six to twelve months, that will be America.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think, you know, a lot of people have built their world around that not even being possible, like the conditions of the Great Depression never being able to happen again here, but it just takes a couple of dominoes to fall, and we could be back in that situation. So it is better to be prepared than to not.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So Rob, why don't you I'm gonna pull the next article up. This is the one that you had found. Was about this is kind of crazy. This is Germany Two Point o.
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  So the headline of
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  Speaker 2: this is authorities in China rewarding people for reporting COVID violators. Okay. Now, I'm gonna read a little bit of this. China's Health Officials for the met metropolis of Shanghai, home to almost 27,000,000 issued 27,000,000
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  Speaker 1: It's a
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: country in Shanghai. Yeah. Issued an announcement on March 12 asking residents not to leave Shanghai unless for emergency situations. A Shanghai resident told state media on March 13 that four buildings in his district have been sealed from the outside and other residential area half a mile away from him has also been closed off. Local authorities installed iron sheets outside of residential gates in order to prevent people from entering and leaving the premises, the resident said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Somewhere down here too. So This is the insanity right here. This is communism for you.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Right. Up to $1,900 compensation for reporting COVID violations. Furthermore, officials in Wuxi City, Jiangsu Province announced on March 12 that people who report COVID violators from Shanghai and other heavily infected areas would be compensated monetarily. Informants can get paid from 500 yuan, that's $78, up to 12,000 yuan, that's $1,900 for these reports. Violations include the breaching of any quarantine requirements.
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  For instance, if an if an individual reports someone who is currently classified as yellow in China's health code system, meaning they must isolate for seven days due to close contact with an infected person, and is in violation of the relevant regulations, the government will pay 300 yuan, roughly $50 to the informant. Successfully catching a violator, a red status, would net the informant the maximum payment of 12,000 yen. That's $1,900.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: So red basically what says later is that red means that the person supposed to be on a fourteen day quarantine. So that's what what that is.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: They're very close to COVID.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And we have one more video. This is a video to show you from a tweet. This is Shanghai. So then what you're seeing here is the blockades, the lockdown, and these are all the police and military and other people that are in a hazmat to basically control folks.
• 18:18
  So just watch this. This is China for you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: That sounds haunting. It does.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And so what's crazy is that so even though China is reporting official numbers, which are they have that some of their highest case numbers they've had since the beginning of the pandemic, a lot of the residents are saying that there's their numbers are actually far higher than what's being reported. Well, yeah. And so and this
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: is one of the things where as soon as Beijing comes out or their public relations department comes out and talks about something, it's usually way past the point of it being a full blown pandemic. And just a couple of weeks ago, they came out and said that there were three thousand cases, which means it could be any number. Like, three thousand would be the lowest the lowest amount that they're willing to even admit because their whole goal has been in any form any shape or format, however they need to do this to to create a zero COVID case.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Their COVID zero policy.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. So that's how they've always operated is that they they create the conditions for that zero. And then if they're coming out and saying that there are cases, usually that means there are tremendous amount more.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And what's it what I'm trying to piece together here is that, as I talked about at the beginning, I think that a lot of what happened in Wuhan was to get the entire world to lockdown following it. A lot of the scare tactics coming out of there. But I also there were a lot of reports coming out, especially through through the Epoch Times, for instance, where we're looking at cell phone services that got canceled or, you know, crematory rates.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Which show that there was something else happening
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Something else.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: That was much more sinister. There's a lot more death happening. But why why is this happening now in China? Yeah. And it makes me wonder, is it something that like I really do believe now what we're seeing is something far worse than what was hitting them.
• 20:28
  Yes. Originally, because this was even happening before the Olympics. And China, of all places, they're going to be the ones that are gonna be hiding. Like, that's the Chinese Communist Party. They're gonna hide anything that makes them look weak, especially before they have an international event like
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the Olympics. Yeah. And I think, you know, one thing to note is we don't know if this is COVID. It could be any type of illness out there. It could be hemorrhagic fever.
• 20:51
  It could be anything. What we're seeing though is that they're hiding something. That's what that's the main point. Whether it's COVID or not, I think that sort of needs to be taken out of this conversation in a way just because it it could be COVID. It could be something else, but the Chinese Communist Party is is always going to be hiding something that's going on.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And if you guys remember that we're watching a few months back, one and a half months ago, I did an episode specifically about how the plagues, like the biblical plagues are basically being unveiled in China. I mean, they're having blood red rivers. They're having earthquakes, you know, hail, drought, flooding, even plague.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And now famine.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You know, famine, plague, etcetera. So, I mean, as we've talked about before, like, I really believe this is a spiritual war. And if you look at China, and you look at not so I think there's an important distinction to make here is that when we talk about China, it's especially with in a negative way, it's the CCP. The like both Rob and I know so many Chinese people, especially through a lot of the human rights work we had done in New York City. The Chinese people are amazing and beautiful people.
• 22:01
  It just that they are under the control of the most wicked evil communist party. And so if you look at the the persecution of Christians, underground Christians, the Uighur camps, the organ harvesting, the Falun Gong, the innocent Falun Gong practitioners that are being chopped up and sold internationally. You know, it's like if you look at a lot of things that you see the cabal doing, that's bad, but I really believe that what's happening in China, especially at the level of the CCP is an evil that is almost unknown.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's unhinged. It's an unhinged evil. It's Frankenstein. It's the monster of Frankenstein. Yeah.
• 22:41
  It is. And it's, you know, the cabal in this sense would be like Doctor. Frankenstein.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So let's actually, let's get into that now because that to me is I think a really important topic because what I'm seeing is a lot of different perspectives people have and folks are saying, okay, looking at Putin. So I believe that Putin is clearing out deep state elements that were within Ukraine. And it's easy to look at that trying to. Yeah.
• 23:06
  Right? I also think that he was baited into that because he looked at how Ukraine is like a massive domino in the great reset. So everything that's happening with Ukraine is, I think, is is kicking off so much of what they want to happen with the date of great reset, especially now that it's become the greatest excuse for food shortages globally.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Food shortages, energy shortages, increased gas prices, all the things that lead them towards their
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Society of basically, we want you to sit in your home, you own nothing, you're sitting there in your metaverse and you press a button and you get, you know, a delivery of your food, or a wrench that you borrow. But that's, you know It's true. Yeah. But if you look at the what how people are talking about Putin, they're saying Putin's doing this. There's a lot of people that I see that they're also saying, well, maybe, you know, maybe Xi Jinping and Putin are working together with Trump to take down the deep state.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Especially since people are seeing guys like George Soros come out and be like, Xi Jinping is the biggest danger to the West and all of this stuff. And what does that mean? He must be really doing things that are against the deep state. But is it possible is it possible that Xi Jinping and his own entirely separate deep state are just doing things for themselves?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and that's I think that's that's the important thing is that if you look at China, you look at how they're treating their citizens. Right? Now, you know, I have my qualms with Putin, but Putin is not actively imprisoning millions of people like the Uighur Muslims,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: for instance.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You know, China has been the most evil scourge to its own people. I I think it's been it's over a hundred million people that have been killed.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Like the the Black Book of Communism says that that communism has killed about 94,000,000 people. But it's very important to point out that no one knows what the numbers were during the famine that happened in China. That could have been anywhere from ninety four to two hundred million alone. There's no way of even calculating the amounts of deaths that happened at the time. They weren't calculating them.
• 25:11
  Yeah. So many, many more actually, I believe died. And it wasn't just ninety four million.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so what we're gonna get into, we have some graphs to show you and some information to show you that really paints a picture that I think that we should be much more worried about the CCP. And for me personally, though you see me covering the great reset a lot, you know, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, the typical characters. To be honest, I'm more concerned about the CCP than I am the globalist. Like, that's and that's I'm being genuinely honest with you.
• 25:42
  Mhmm. I am more worried about the CCP as our enemy than I am, you know, the the European bankers or all the other people.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I I spent like the last two weeks in a rabbit hole and and creating this infographic on the World Economic Forum, what then the UN and all these other globalist plans are. And actually, I 100% agree. I'm still more worried about what's going on with the CCP, and and and we can show it. We can show why.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yes. Which we will do. And that's so the one thing also is I think that it's easy to look at this in a very simplified way. And to be thinking, again, like, oh, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And it's like, I think that what's happening is there are these warring factions.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's not just that there's the deep state. It's like, well, since, you know, since the Rockefellers got, you know, Mao started with through Yale and China, that that was like their pet project. I think that one way you look at this is what you've talked about before too, that the CCP in many ways is Frankenstein's monster. And I think that's something that is really important to really kind of break down because while I believe that the Chinese Communist Party was really kicked off by the globalist, by the people that you think of as the deep state, they the power that they've gained, I think has actually in a lot of ways, and I say they're more powerful than the deep state as we think of the European bankers, but a lot of the structures that they've put into place such as the five g networks or trade networks represent a significant threat.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And that's only two things. Never mind the amount of blackmailing they've been doing over the last twenty years. The army of hackers they have that have stolen every single piece of intellectual property from every big corporation out there that never reported on any of it. All of this has been tracked for years. They have all of it.
• 27:33
  They've completely mined Africa for all of their resources. Like, it's it's an incredible danger on the planet right now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Actually, let's pull up this article because Biden this is insane. So this is article that this came out. This was May 2021. But this is no joke.
• 27:49
  Okay? Biden, quote, China thinks it will own America by 02/1935. Now there's not a whole lot of things I trust coming out of this guy's mouth, but this is exactly what he says. Let me tell you this. So Biden was addressing troops in Virginia during Memorial Day.
• 28:07
  And so he says that resident Biden addressing the evolving landscape of foreign threats to the country told troops Friday that China thinks it will quote own America in the next fifteen years. He said, I've spent more time with President Xi Jinping of China than any world leader has. He's bragging. That's a red flag right there. Oh my goodness.
• 28:29
  For twenty four hours of private meetings with just an interpreter, seventeen thousand miles traveling in China in here. So what he told people that he says, so he, so Biden's referring to Xi Jinping, and basically saying that Xi Jinping firmly believes that China before the year 02/1935 is going to own America, because autocracies can make quick decisions. So This has
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: long been their argument against the West. And this is what they've been promoting within their own propaganda system within their country is that Americans are stupid. The West is stupid. It takes so long for them to make a decision. Whereas, we're so great and wonderful because we're a, you know, we're a dictatorship, and we can make decisions right away.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Well and they used COVID to justify. That was one of the major propaganda
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Pieces of COVID because they're saying, look. Look how bad Wuhan was. But because we can make quick decisions because, you know, we're not autocracy or dictatorship Right. They're saying that the method of being an autocracy is actually necessary for making the decisions needed to respond to something like COVID. Because and this is something we're not gonna dig into too much here.
• 29:38
  But if you go back and you look at China's, whether they are leaked speeches from high level military generals, private meetings from Xi Jinping that have been leaked, or even things they've talked about more openly, China's end goal is global domination. Like the CCP's end goal is global domination.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: So It always has been.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: It always has been. Yeah. So even Mao talked a lot about this. So if you look at what the UN is doing and what the World Economic Forum, it's easy to look at them and think, oh, well, they want to have their great reset. They want to get, you know, look at the Georgia guide guidestones.
• 30:13
  So they become the enemy that it's so easy to focus on this. I've gotten into arguments with people because I'm like, look, you know, China is our enemy. And they're like, no. What about the Rostrauss and Rockefellers? It's like
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course. Like, we're we're talking about two separate parasitical entities. They're still parasites. The thing is is that with the CCP, they created a manipulative poison in the world.
• 30:36
  You cannot change that poison from being anything other than what it is until the CCP is gone. Okay. If Xi Jinping came forward tomorrow and said, you know what? Communism's terrible. Let's wipe it out and do something different.
• 30:49
  I can still make decisions fast, but let's just wipe out communism because it's evil. I'd be like, I kinda trust that guy a little bit more, at least. Yeah. You know? That's not happening.
• 30:58
  But he's doing the opposite. So far, he has even though he has been making some good moves, like trying to get rid of corruption and stuff like that, arresting a lot of bad guys that were on the Jiang Zemin faction's payroll. He has not destroyed communism and, by and large, has been making moves that appear to be moving towards global domination.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: And this is why I believe George Soros has got his panties in a in a bunch because excuse me. But it's because what we've got
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: here don't the I don't want the image of George Soros in panties.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I think everybody out there
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Come on. Needs to focus on that for
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: a minute. No. I'm just kidding. Yeah. No.
• 31:38
  It's it's true. It's it's a he's a hard guy to look at, really, honestly. But, you know, and there's a long history there too that goes back. What's strange is the World Economic Forum are tied closer to, you know, the Nazis, honestly. And and I'm not saying that there there's a direct connection there.
• 31:57
  I'm saying if you go back historically with all of the connections and the companies at the time, you can find connections. Yes. But but then you've got the CCP, which has just been the blood red history of the Chinese Communist Party, the the Marxist, like, specter basically dictating everything that they've done and the death count behind it. Well, it's also, like, if
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you look at the Chinese Communist Party historically, right, obviously, you had Mao and through the various leaders, the CCP started opening up more to the West, especially under, like, Deng Xiaoping.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: You had Clinton. You had Kissinger working to open the West up to China, which I think that that was a lot of we saw that happening. That was the globalist, you know, chess, you know, moves happening. Yeah. They were intentionally turning China into the manufacturing hub to weaken America to get us to where we are right now, where we're like a flick away from collapse because they've gutted our manufacturing, etcetera.
• 32:53
  So but if you look at when Xi Jinping kind of came, you had Jiang Zemin who was very power hungry, brutal, evil man. He's the guy that orchestrated Tiananmen Square massacre, the persecution of Falun Gong, etcetera. You had him come in, and then you briefly had Hu Jintao, and now we've got Xi Jinping. And it seemed like that China and the Communist Party was opening up more to the West and really softening things. But even a lot of very high level people in the Chinese Communist Party have been extremely concerned about Xi Jinping and his approach towards communism because he's been reviving more of a Maoist communism where there is a worship of the leader.
• 33:33
  And if you look at a lot of the propaganda posters of Xi Jinping, I mean, it looks like straight out of Maoist China.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: He it's be in part in part, it's because he's trying to dig up these nostalgic feelings of the beginning of communism to save it. He wants it's not necessarily that he wants to be a great president or a great man. He wants to save communism, it seems. Right? He could change any time.
• 33:54
  He could maybe have a change of heart. I hear his wife actually is a is actually a pretty good person and has been trying to help him, and he's been in good meetings about these things. But communism is still there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: You know, he's he's making all of these moves that we're going to show you that appear that are are actually going against a larger a larger plan by the globalists, but it's really just for global domination.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And so that's an important point. Because I if you if you trace all this back, it's actually pretty apparent that the globalists, you know, the European bankers, thirteen bloodlines, however you want to look at it, this this this corrupt cabal, they've had a long term plan. You were talking centuries. Yeah. Long term plan to eventually enslave humanity.
• 34:43
  Now they know that they they need to do it through technocracy. They had to do it through technology because they can't just control 8,000,000,000 people.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It's so easy with technology. You just people adopt it themselves.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It's, you know.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I know. But if you look at their plan, so part of their plan was to build up the CCP as the counter to The United States. Because even though I think they had a significant amount of control of The US, The US Government, especially the US military, with the military industrial complex, all the black budget stuff, they still need to bring down America. So China became their strategic move to bring down America. But and what I think is happening, though, is that China saw their plan as they became part of that plan to kick off that domino effect to basically collapse the whole world system, economic, food, etc, you know, the whole political structure so that the globalist could then take over.
• 35:41
  But I think that what's happening is that the Chinese are looking at that and saying, well, we're not going to like, bend over for you. Like, we also want that global control. So I think that what we're seeing play out, I think that Putin in a lot of ways doesn't have global aspirations. Like, he's trying he's a nationalist. Yeah.
• 35:58
  He's protecting his country from globalism. He recently, like, I think just today, announced that he was backing the ruble with gold. He's returning to a gold backed currency, which is huge. But I think that China is not Russia. Right.
• 36:12
  China, especially the CCP, they have global aspirations. And I think they're trying to use a lot of the mechanisms of the great reset to insert their system so that they could be the ones to take over. And for the folks that are watching, they're thinking maybe she's a white hat or whatever. Look at how China treats their own citizens. Like honestly, Rob and I Proof's in the pudding.
• 36:35
  We would be we'd be chopped up with our organs sold off to the international market, burned in, you know, in a in a pile of trash somewhere if we were in China. And I'm not kidding. It's it's exactly
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: what happened. Very different. And and it's hard for people here to understand that and even the history without being there. But even the videos that we showed you at the very beginning, it was it was actually good that we put those at the beginning because you can imagine this now. But, you know, why why would we trust someone whose own people are being taken care of in this fashion?
• 37:06
  Nothing ever gets out. There's loads of propaganda everywhere. All they're doing is trying to save communism. It's a a million times worse than than out here. Yeah.
• 37:17
  You know, it's it's imagine where everything is going in The US Fifty Years advanced. That's what you have over there right now that people are living in. You know, it's it is 1984 in a country.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, it is. Yeah. But and also that there you know, for the argument of, well, you know, is China really more powerful than the European bankers? Well, the European bankers, they might have more power financially. But I want to bring up a few charts or a few graphs to look at to show how much power China really has.
• 37:49
  And so the first one we're going to look at here is their five gs network. So we know that the the globalist, that the Great Reset is built on a technology system. There's no way they can police and control and enslave 8,000,000,000 people unless they're using technology. And they speak very openly about this. Mean, Claus Schwab, Fourth Industrial Revolution, they need to have our, you know, biomedical, biological tracking, our passports, our vaccine passports, they need to be able to have a central central bank digital currency, all the things they're talking about.
• 38:22
  But how do they implement that? Well, they have to use a network. Guess who owns the world's largest five gs network? Well, China. So this graph right here, this is from 2018.
• 38:35
  So keep in mind, it's only progressed more since then. There's only a few countries on earth that have actually banned Huawei. So what this graph is showing is where Huawei and their five gs network is implemented, or where it's under testing, or where it's banned. So the countries that are blue, so United States, Australia, New Zealand, and Japan and Taiwan, I think those are the only countries that have actually banned maybe a few in the tip of South South America. But those are the only countries that have actually banned China's Five gs system.
• 39:12
  But if you look at red, red is where there's already a confirmed network of five g that's based on Huawei. So look at Russia. Look at Europe. Look at Africa, South America, Canada. Mexico.
• 39:27
  Mean,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: many countries in Europe have have fully embraced it. The UK has embraced it. I mean, are these are gigantic metropolises. There's like so many people in these places. And, you know, you've got like hardly any that aren't using it.
• 39:47
  And everyone at the time, if you were following the the, you know, the stories at the time, the people that were on the beat of five g and Huawei were all talking about this was China's move towards surveillance of the entire world. This is how this is the next step in how they can get in and start controlling everything. The biggest digital network in the entire world controlled by China and the most powerful and the dangers of five g themselves, which have long been tracked of what they do to the human body and how they affect people. Five g is very different than four g. Four g can be very far away to still give you the the reception.
• 40:31
  Five g also all has to be very close to you, and it's a much stronger signal, and it does more to adversely affect your body. Yeah. So there's just so many, like so many things wrapped up in in five gs.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Plus, there's a lot of information that's coming out. A lot of doctors and scientists are saying that five g has the ability to affect us, especially those people who've gotten the jab with, you know, nanoparticles and graphene oxide and all that stuff that we can't talk about here on YouTube. But that's that's a threat. But look who owns the network. So do you really think that when Klaus Schwab goes over to Xi Jinping and says, hey, you know, Xi, it's time to hand over your five g network so we can, you know, implement our new world order.
• 41:13
  What's she even what how's China gonna respond? Yeah. And so this is just that this is just the five g network. So let's now take a look at the trade wars because America, again, as we talked about, China became a very useful tool for the globalist to collapse the American manufacturing base in our economy, which our economy, it should have collapsed a long time ago, but it's just been held up held up by the fact that we have this fiat currency. This is not backed by anything, but because it has its status as a reserve currency of the world and that it's the petrodollar, that's what's kept giving us this artificial feeling that we have a strong currency.
• 41:52
  Whereas in all reality, our country has been bankrupt, more than bankrupt for a very, very long time. But let's take a look at why. So I found this really cool animated chart which is showing from 1980 until 2018, how the trade dominance has changed. So let me go and pull this up. So right here This
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: is crazy, you guys.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So I'll start over again. That's the beginning. The blue is where The US has trade dominance. Right? Now red is where China has trade dominance.
• 42:19
  So '92, '90 '3, '90 '4. So you can see all you're seeing happening is America is losing its trade dominance around the world as China is replacing it. As this is each country's biggest trading partner by year. So look at 02/2018. So there you go.
• 42:38
  There's 1980. US was the world's biggest trading partner almost every single country. And fast forward to now, even further now, because what happened in 2018? Well, shortly after that, you had COVID. Yeah.
• 42:51
  So you had a collapse of global trade, especially coming out of countries whereas China used that strategically. And this is not even getting into their Belt and Road. So the Belt and Road, so this is a map of countries that are signed up with China's Belt and Road Initiative. So I'll give a little bit of a detail behind what the Belt and Road is. Basically, if you look at how the European bankers control countries, they do it through their fiat currencies, they do it through the equivalent of our Federal Reserve.
• 43:24
  They go into these countries that have independent currencies, right? Russia is one of the few remaining that aren't on the global banking system. Right? So Libya with, you know, Iraq, they at one point had their own independent systems until all of a sudden The US is waging these wars and collapsing these countries.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and this is one of the biggest criticisms of some of the elite out there like the Open Foundation, Open Society Foundation, which is, you know, George Soros' foundation, and, you know, Bill Gates is in large criticized for many of the of the same things.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. Oh, the Clinton Foundation is huge in this process. Right. And so if you look at this, the Belt and Road is, as I understand, this is China's way of taking control of these countries.
• 44:09
  So a lot of these countries do have the central bank system in them. And that's how they control the countries. It's basically the they're lending all these countries money. So look, we'll print your money for you. We'll lend it to you.
• 44:21
  We'll lend you this fiat currency, but you're controlled by us. But China though, so they have what's called the Belt and Road Initiative, which what they're doing is they're going into countries that are poor and struggling, especially because of the fact they have a fiat currency that is experiencing inflation, etc. They're going into these countries and they're saying, look, we're China, we're growing superpower, we're going to allow you to sign on to our Belt and Road Initiative where they start building massive networks of trade infrastructure, highways, roads, everything. They're basically saying we're growing so big, you can be connected with that. But what happens is as soon as that country signs over on that Belt and Road Initiative, they become a debt slave to China.
• 45:08
  And so this is how China is actually taking back control. So again, as we talked about at the beginning of the show, there is a war being waged between the CCP and the cabal. Yeah. And you don't see it on the surface. No.
• 45:23
  Right? You might see the occasional things like China state media calling Soros the son of Satan or you see Soros coming out saying Xi Jinping is the greatest threat to free societies. But if you look at some of these things with the global control, you can see that they are battling for control of the world.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: They absolutely are. And this is what's so dangerous about making oversimplifying things. Right? Okay. Because the globalists are going after Xi Jinping.
• 45:47
  He must be a good guy. Right? Actually, I mean, there has been no no point in the history of the CCP where they've they've fully they haven't taken anyone's side but their own. They're on their own side. You can clearly see it in these graphs, what they're doing, what they have been doing, how they're playing the long game.
• 46:04
  And we haven't even covered, like I said before, blackmail or any of the other ways that they control a large portion of of the world through their army of hackers, etcetera, etcetera.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, and that's a really good point because if you look at that, and, know, we've done some shows on this that, know, individually, I've done a lot of shows, I know you cover that a lot in Edge of Wonder. The blackmail network of the CCP is so extensive. It's, and it's been tracked. Yeah. Like, if you look at even through their their the journalist programs, they bring all these journalists over into China.
• 46:38
  They're doing these they what they do is so how how they work. So you look at Epstein. Right? You think, oh, everyone knows Epstein and who you know, all this person was flying on Epstein's plane. And Epstein's blackmail operation was tiny compared to the CCP's blackmail operation.
• 46:52
  Why do you think everyone's freaking out over Hunter's laptop? Yeah. Because a lot of that stuff is on there. Yeah. Right?
• 46:58
  So China, you know, what they do in China. So China, they are the king of honeypotting. And so what they'll do is and they do this even at a local level. So they the the CCP has studied, especially with America, they've studied every single aspect of how our country runs. They I'm not kidding you.
• 47:16
  They even know what the most important seat in a county level government is to affect change is not like the CCP is just trying to control Washington DC. They are literally even controlling a mayor of a small town in Midwest Ohio.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: They could be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: They could be. They're not controlling all of them, but there's a lot that they are.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not everyone's fallen for it. But but but a lot have. A lot have. And also, not to mention all of the all of the money that's been being poured into these failing media companies, these these left wing media companies that are reporting very positively on China or just not saying anything because they're not allowed to now.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: once this is the problem with this is the problem with with media being attached to large corporations and then accepting money from outside entities. You don't know now where they're where, you know, they're where they lie, you know, what they're going to do, how they're going to report on a certain thing. It's it's very dangerous. It's very bad, we've been seeing it for years now.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And how I mean, how they're black they're they're like I mentioned, they're the best at blackmail. So what they do and I've talked to people that have that know, like, inside sources in China that can share this information. So let's just say how how does it work? Right?
• 48:35
  Because I I remember I was talking to a friend one time, he's like, why would our our politicians wanna destroy America? Yeah. Like, they couldn't understand why a politician, especially like resident Biden
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Would be actively taking steps to destroy America. It's like, well, a lot of it is bribery and blackmail. So one, yeah, you give 10% to the big guy and you can make this stuff happen. But let's just say this is how it works. Let's say that there's a a nice Christian mayor in, you know, say a middle middle sized town in America.
• 49:04
  Well, they do these trips. If you look into it, you can see it across all spectrum, whether it's school, system, mayors, governance. So they might put together a trip for mayors, you know, in a state where they bring over say a dozen into China because they say we want to learn from you and how you're governing America. Right. Right?
• 49:24
  They butter you up. Okay. So say this mayor's name is Bill. Well, he goes out to China. It's like, wow, this is great.
• 49:30
  They're they're learning that they teach them about here's China's culture, and they put on a good face. Well, so they have a nice dinner one night, and Bill goes back to his hotel room, you know, say that the trip is ending in a few different days. And what was odd, though, is that over dinner, someone pulled him aside and said, hey, Bill, I'll give you a million dollars if you start listening to what we want you to do for to help America in China relationships. Now, some people might just take the money and run. Right.
• 49:56
  And that's easy. What happens though, let's just say Bill's a good Christian man with daughter and a wife and he's just No. He says, No, I'm not gonna do it. He goes back to his hotel room at midnight, a knock on his door happens. He opens his door, beautiful 25 year old Chinese call girl.
• 50:13
  She starts, you know, she kind of introduces herself. She's all kind of come in. He might then say, No, no, no, look like I've got a wife, I can't do this. He shuts the door. The Chinese already put something in his food.
• 50:26
  They already put something into his drink to make sure that they don't leave, they don't leave the ability for you to say no. Bill wakes up the next day with that girl beside him in his bed.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Doesn't know what he did. Doesn't know what happened.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Doesn't remember anything. Every, these hotel, these hotels are, they each room might have 50 cameras in it. So that then he wakes up with her next to him. He goes to lunch the next day. He sits down, a Chinese guy comes over slides across him in a little envelope.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Or he gets some text messages now. Exactly.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's gonna got pictures of everything and says, look, you're gonna now do what we want you to do or else this. And that's actually not the worst of it. If it's a very high profile person, they might wake up the next morning with a dead child in their bed. Yeah.
• 51:10
  Like, that's how it happens. And so this is how the CCP has infiltrated and controlled.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: So if they haven't taken the money, they'll get them in a compromising situation with the photos, and then they can ruin their reputation very easily, and that's how they that's how they have the power that they have over a lot of people.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, again, there's so much happening and when you're trying to look at Russia and Putin and, you know, and China backing some of the things that Russia's doing, I just think it's really, really important for all of you watching to really be very clear about the Chinese Communist Party. Now, there might be a point in the future when Xi starts to separate himself from the CCP.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: We can only hope.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because well, the other thing is that just like here in America, it's even worse in China where they have multiple factions within the CCP. So there are wars going even within the CCP. It's deeply fragmented. Right.
• 52:07
  Yeah. So I think it's just important for all of us to see the CCP for what it is. Because I even heard people talking about, oh, well, there's bio labs in Taiwan. And if China all of a sudden There are bio labs everywhere. Oh, they are.
• 52:21
  Yeah. But they're saying that like, oh, well, if China bombs and invades Taiwan, it's because they're clearing out the bio labs the same way they think that Putin is in Ukraine. It's like, look
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: That that shows a very clear misunderstanding of of China, the relationship, the historical relationship with Taiwan, and actually what's what's happening over there. And Absolutely. And it's like even even good guys fight with one another. I mean, like, we see that everywhere. Like, if you look at some of these communities even online, there's there's people arguing with each other all the time, and they're they both have generally the same beliefs, and they're both against globalism and all kinds of things.
• 52:59
  Right? Imagine what that's like within a community of of vampires that are all and I don't mean that literally. I mean that
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is literate.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: We don't know. But the point is is, like, what would that be like? Like, every every faction is out for themselves. Every family is out for themselves. Everyone wants to get power over everyone else.
• 53:18
  They do move forward as a group in some regards, but then everyone's always out for doing similar things with one another. And and it's not that hard for them to do because they have money connecting all of them. Money is connecting all of these people. That is their energy, their currency, and what they use to to to develop everything. And if you look at a military operation and how a military operation runs, everything is in their own little silo.
• 53:45
  Everyone's building something and doesn't know what it's for, and then it goes to the next guy, and that guy puts it here and blah blah blah. Well, within a corporation, the entire the entire way a corporation is built is it's all like that, all the way down. People that are getting that are that are getting direction from up above don't necessarily know why they're getting that direction some sometimes. They're high up in the company or a middle manager. They get sat down at a at a at a in a conference room at a table with all of the bigwigs of the company, and they're being told what the new direction is and how everything needs to revolve around climate change and all of this stuff.
• 54:20
  Meanwhile and then you have the the the World Economic Forum pushing the ESG scores, right, which are which are basically dictating whether a corporation is healthy or not. And this has nothing. Now the money is coming from the e ESG score and not from actual profit. And and the corporations are scrambling to appear that they're they're protect that they're pushing some of these agendas and protecting some of these agendas. And that's how we have the global mess that we have today because all of those things are revolved around equality, sustainability, energy, you know, climate change being a gigantic one of them.
• 54:57
  And now it kind of blows the top off of exactly why everyone is going in the same direction. And it's all being controlled by money, by a boatload of money.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, you know, an interesting thing to kind of throw into this is, well, are we screwed? Like, it was now it's okay. Now we've got, you know, Klaus Schwab and the UN and they're obviously they're taking us through the, you know, through hell. And that's our plan.
• 55:19
  Now we got the CCP to worry about. But, you know, for those of that are watching that maybe a little bit worried right now, I really recommend going back and rewatching the video I did called it's on the thumbnails, my face that says, you know, seven plagues in China. Yeah. And the headline is China is nearing or the CCP is nearing collapse and it's biblical. Because what I go into there is that it's not like, basically with all this fighting, it's like if the CCP didn't get as strong as it did, especially over the last two decades, the globalist, I think would have a lot more control over what's happening.
• 55:54
  And they would be able to really control the demolition of the world in the way they want to and bring in their new world order. But China became too strong, started throwing wrenches into that plan, started taking their own dominoes, putting them in and taking control. But China is also truly on the verge of collapse. Well, yes. It it it truly is.
• 56:16
  And if China collapses, which I believe that it will, like I now, I don't mean that the Chinese people win the CCP, which I mean, China, what China becomes after the collapse of the CCP is it's anyone's guess. Right. I I I'd like to see a a pro democracy group take control or but what to see how it plays out.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: You wanna have your mind blown. Research Shanghai in the nineteen twenties. It was like America in the nineteen twenties. It was crazy. Really?
• 56:39
  It was amazing. Yeah. Like, they were like flappers and like they Oh, that's true, actually. A beautiful place to be.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a good point. So if you look at where China is at, though, they are on the verge of collapse. And if China collapses or sorry, if the CCP, when the CCP collapses, because I believe that they will, that will also be the undoing of the globalist plan. Because it's like, you have these two enemies that are the enemies of freedom, the enemies of mankind, you have the cabal and the CCP that have both put together this plan to take over the world.
• 57:12
  But it's like, now we're gonna see that they're broken, they're not getting along, they're fighting each other. And then when one of them falls, it will bring down the whole plan. So, but as I've said before, I do believe that we have a tough road ahead of
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: us. Yeah.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: And, you know, again, go back to those videos that we showed you at the beginning, food shortages, empty grocery shelves. I think that for the people to get through the time period ahead of us where we might see the dollar collapse, we might see a lot of struggle and difficulty like what they're already seeing in China. We have to be able to stay resilient, stay grounded in our faith, stay strong, because we will get through that. But it's not going to be easy.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. And I think, know, it's interesting you brought up the the seven deadly plagues because Edge of Wonder also, by the way, follow us on Rumble. If you if you're out there listening to this. We could use we could use it. We're trying to build back our our audience after losing it the morning.
• 58:05
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• 58:06
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• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you guys after the show as well.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you. But yeah. So we have an entire series on Rise TV about about plagues, and it shows you how all of these people that think they're controlling the world have very little control over it. I mean, why put why put a wall around the around the White House right after the election if you think you have a lot of control? There's a lot of fear out there on every cent on every side, on every angle.
• 58:31
  There's a lot of moves being made, but you out there within yourself have the most power to to make a change within yourself to rise above all of this. Because if we do, there are there are actually amazing things that that can happen when we're connected to a higher power, which is everyone everyone out there can agree God wins in the end. Exactly. And and this is why, I mean, you know, this is why we do what we do. We actually it's not easy.
• 58:57
  It's not it's not easy to put ourselves out there to be in front of everyone to say the things that we have to say sometimes. But actually, it's because we have hope. Like, if we if we didn't have any hope, we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you guys about this and
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: trying to Smiles on our faces.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and, you know, joking around sometimes too and trying to educate everyone and helping everyone think for themselves. Because at the end of the day, you know, what happens to us doesn't necessarily matter that much. But but for the future, we all have to be thinking about what kind of future we want to have and where we want to position ourselves, I think.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. So so folks soon, we're gonna hop over to Rise TV only where we're going to do a q and a where you can ask your questions. We'll share, you know, we'll dive into some things that maybe we wouldn't talk about publicly on YouTube especially. And again, just as a reminder that by joining us on Rise TV, you're supporting us and you're allowing us to focus the entirety of our energy and our team, you know, my wife, many other people on creating the content that we are creating.
• 59:58
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• 1:00:07
  I hope you stay around. But by joining, you're supporting what we're doing. It's you know, really, the cost is a couple coffees a month.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes. Exactly. It's it's really not that much. And also, again, it's like we're not just we're not just trying to take your money here.
• 1:00:20
  We're trying to give you something back that's bigger and better. We're trying to build an entire network, bring more like minded people on, and create an amazing environment of content and and collaboration with with you guys to to make awesome content.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And one other thing is that a lot of you have asked me in the past about buying gold or silver, which I've always been one to recommend. In the past, I couldn't really recommend somebody in particular though, because I used to work in an industry and it's full of shady people. Trust me. It's like, yeah, it's it can be it can be creepy.
• 1:00:52
  But I've done a lot of research. I'm very proud to recommend Noble Gold. One thing that they specialize in is an IRA transfer. So say you've got a hundred grand sitting in a Vanguard IRA. Well, a, if you look into these things, Vanguard is one of the key companies that is persecuting us and pushing for the great reset.
• 1:01:12
  So a, get it out of Vanguard. But if you do want to put that money into physical gold or silver and not be penalized, that you can do a transfer. And that's what Noble Gold specializes in. So if you want to learn more about that, go to www.goldwithseth. That's me.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm going.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, it's goldwithseth.com. You can learn more about that, which I recommend. And look, I also I have people to ask you about crypto. My personal stance on crypto is that, look, if the internet goes down, but if there's a cyber attack Better have gold.
• 1:01:43
  Things collapse. It's like you can't open up your coin base and go buy groceries, but you better believe you can take that little one ounce silver coin and go get your family's food for a week. So that's my favorite.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Or, you know, a couple of ounces of gas.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or vodka. Actually, vodka is a great prepping item because you can make medicinal, you can make medicines out of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it. Right. So thought you were gonna joke about something else. But yeah, could say that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: No, really. I mean, it's probably cheap right now because everyone's boycotting that. Boycotting Russia. So if you can go find a bunch of vodka on sale, that's gonna be a great barter item in the future.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: That's really true, actually. Vodka might be as as worthwhile as getting gold.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or bullets. So Alright. So folks, we are now gonna hop over onto Rise TV. Wanna Hang out with us.
• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're not really not trying to push anything on anyone or make them believe something different. We're just looking at the facts and trying to give you guys what you need to make better decisions.
• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And actually, Rob is one of the big reasons why I'm even here. Rob was one of the big one of the main people that encouraged me to step forward and to make the Plot to Seal America. And actually, even Rob was in the Plot to Seal America.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: That's actually true. He put me at the end of plot to steal America. I was like, wait, what a minute? I was just so excited to see president Trump sharing that. I was, like, literally cheering in my room with popcorn practically.
• 1:04:12
  Right? And and when I saw that, I texted you right away, I was like, president Trump just tweeted you out, man. It was so great. It was such a great time. And I mean, just so blessed now to be making content directly with you.
• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:43
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• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Sure. Actually, there's a we're completely on Rise now. Right? I believe so. Okay.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah. So actually, there's a there's a couple of people on right now like Chicken Coop Lady, Patriot Bird. Thank you so much for that donation. Just donated a hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: So Patriot Bird is actually for Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I him in the Canton reawaken tour.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're not too far from here, which I can't tell you where we are. We're just in rural Ohio. Yes. That's where we are right now.
• 1:05:29
  We're
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: In bunker. In a bunker. Actually, that's kind of true.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: We kind of are in a bunker.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And actually, one of my favorite people, one of my favorite names out there, the kick and cabals daily. That's so good. And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: also we had Rafael that donated as well. So I'm not sure the full name there, but that's yeah. Thank you for that as well. We really appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: Also, it's nice to see Bean here and cracking Sarge. Sarge.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Pickled horse feathers. All of our favorite. Rob Van, of course. Good to see you, Rob Van.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Rob Van. It's been yeah. It's been awesome to have you back, Rob. I miss you, dude.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: And, of course, chicken coop lady who always always love your questions.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Best questions. Best question award winner right there.
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  Speaker 1: So alright. So let's go ahead and dive into the q and a, which this will be great. Actually, Rob and I haven't done a q and a together on Rise So this is gonna be a lot of fun. Also, one thing is if you are new to Rise TV and you just come over, let us know in the comments. I'd love to give you a big shout out because we really appreciate anybody new that has come on over.
• 1:06:34
  I can move this more to the center so you can also.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Somebody said, this is a quick question. Question for Rob. Are you using just for men hair dye? No, I'm not.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Actually, can confirm because Rob is staying with me that Rob actually wears a toupee. He's actually bald. Rob went bald when he was like 16. So he wears toupee.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: You better be careful because I'm gonna slap you now. Just gonna call you Chris lap rock and slap you silly. Alright. So Nobody makes bald hair jokes around me.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Seth, get your name out of my mouth. Get your
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: name out of get your my wife's name out of your mouth.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright. So actually, let's go ahead. I I wanna ask I see a seed chicken coop lady question pop up. She says, hi, guys.
• 1:07:26
  Rob, Besides moving to Texas, what are you doing to prep?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: A lot actually right now. Some of which I can't tell you about really, but let's put it this way. Like, I'm actually trying to transform my life right now to revolve at least in part around preparation. So what does that mean? That means I'm doing a lot more work to research, storing food long term, not just getting like the MyPatriot supply or whatever it is that y'all are gonna get, the MREs, but also how we're going to store and be ready for for not just long term food shortage, but being able to survive on one's own in in in kind of recycle basically, like, be able to sustain food on my land, etcetera, water, getting well water, looking at, you know, even even in my home, how to have sustainable heat that is not affected by electricity.
• 1:08:36
  Generators, I'm looking at I'm looking at generators, natural gas, and propane, like the whole bit. I'm just looking at everything right now and going through and as much time as I have just putting it towards that. And it's not just that also, like, there's there's the self defense part of this. And and don't don't I'm not trying to scare anyone by by the way. It's like, I just I just think that, you know, really, as much as I believe in the Second Amendment and I support the Second Amendment, I'm not the type of person that's gonna take out a gun and threaten someone or it's it's like those things are for survival.
• 1:09:14
  So, like, if if if you or your family is with you and you need to survive, then you have what you need to survive. And I'm talking about like hunting or whatever it is on the land or what have you. Not to be not to talk too much, but that's kind of what I'm doing.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No. Yeah. Good points. Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  That is a big theme too, because I'm also a big second amendment guy, but it's not about being aggressive or being the aggressor. It's really, it's about knowing how to defend, knowing how to defend your family. You know, because if there's increased crime rates and everything, you know, as a father and a husband, it's my responsibility to protect my family. And so I don't never in my life want to harm a human being. Actually, I've never been in fight.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah. Just as how I am. I was always a person that could could talk someone down from that because I never Seth
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: will soon be in a fight when him and I start taking jujitsu lessons together.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah. That's true. And then I'll have Robin in armbar.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Hopefully. And I will and I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: will reciprocate. Great. We'll do an episode on that. So, yeah. So that's yeah, this is a great, great answer there.
• 1:10:25
  So, alright. So jumping into the other question. So Rye Bread asks, is China closing their borders to protect themselves from Taiwanese bio labs infecting their country and setting them up as the fall guy? I don't think so. I don't see, think that I saw that well, I saw that as soon as we saw the the Ukraine Biolab thing get unveiled, everyone then started like, oh, we just discovered there's Biolabs in Taiwan.
• 1:10:53
  And they started trying to They're trying to make the same logic.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Taiwan as if it's Ukraine. Yeah. It is not. No. No.
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  Ain't even close.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I've I've spent a considerable amount of time in Taiwan. I used to go there probably two or three times every year. So I I can tell you, Taiwan is as free as America. Taiwan yeah. Okay.
• 1:11:17
  Is there corruption there?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. There's corruption everywhere. But so here's something very important to say about Taiwan is that so Taiwan is the closest, like China that's outside of China. Okay.
• 1:11:30
  So Hong Kong now especially is under CCP's control very much so. I've been I used to go to Hong Kong for three months out of every year. So but Taiwan, though, is the the reason why Taiwan is such a threat to China or one of the reasons. Right? A lot has to do with control of the China South China Sea, etcetera.
• 1:11:46
  But one of the main reasons why Taiwan is a threat is because a lot of Chinese go to Taiwan for tourism. So a lot of the Chinese go to Taiwan, but there's people that are in Taiwan that go to these tourist sites and literally pass out information that exposes the truth of the Chinese Communist Party. So a communist nation's greatest enemy is truth. And that's why the CCP hides truth through their, you know, their their great firewall, all the propaganda, the banning of media, banning of social media, digital censorship, etcetera. So what happens is their citizens go to to Taiwan to go visit, you know, Taipei or, you know, Kaohsiung in the South, and they are constantly meeting people that are basically exposing all the lies of the CCP.
• 1:12:32
  So Taiwan is like is a massive threat to China. So if I were to see China move on Taiwan, like to me, it has nothing to do with protecting itself from bio labs. Like, don't forget that China is the China is Wuhan lab. So, you know, in China, they're not like, I believe that Putin is trying to protect his people from a biological weapons attack coming out of Ukraine. China actually is is using biological weapons on their own people.
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  Speaker 2: There's no rules in China. Yeah. They do whatever they want. It's it's like it it literally makes Ukraine look like a like a a puppy in comparison to a vicious dog, you know, and and it's it we it's a may actually, sometimes it's a kind of a miracle that we have to talk about that because things can get confusing really fast with everything going on. But imagine Taiwan as being what China would be like if the Communist Party never took over.
• 1:13:31
  These are freedom loving people. Yeah. They've had to fight for their lives their whole life. Or Oh, yeah. Or they've been under at least at the very least, if they haven't had to fight for their lives, they've been terrified of being taken over for their entire life.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Well, and they're living under Chiang Kai shek, which is he was a very brutal leader.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: That he wasn't great either. No. It was like two brutal leaders fighting one another.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: But the Taiwanese the thing is that Taiwanese, like, I can meet a person that's Taiwanese or Chinese. I will know if they're Taiwanese within about thirty seconds versus Chinese. Not everybody and not to not to generalize, but it's just it's a very different culture.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Very
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: different. Taiwan is one of my favorite places on earth. I always gain weight when I go there.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Night markets. From what I've heard.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh. Yeah. The pork sausages.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: I've heard about the legendary night markets. It's like why I would love to go to Taiwan if I can still You
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: can get deep fried milk. What? Yeah. It's deep fried sweetened condensed milk. That sounds amazing.
• 1:14:26
  It's so good, man. Oh my gosh. It's almost like deep fried icing.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No. That's exactly what it is.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So alright. Next question. Black Hawk Lakota. Why are nations, especially China, Russia, USA, Israel, etcetera, wanting to be on the moon by 2024, all have the same date and goal.
• 1:14:47
  Why that year specifically? So, Rob, I'm gonna default to you on this one.
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  Speaker 2: There are cold wars going on, but there's way more going on out there in space than anyone really knows. The Space Force coming up when it did is not really very surprising, and there's always multiple things happening every time there's a mission. It'll look like on the surface, it'll say the mission is about this thing, but then the the black operation side of it is it's it's it's doing a number of other other things. I'm unclear why it would be that date specifically. Nations, especially China, Russia, USA, and Israel wanting to be on the moon by 02/2024.
• 1:15:33
  I don't have an exact answer for you there really why. I would like to actually look look at that on Edge of Wonder and maybe get back to you on one of our Friday Night Lives.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Which have Ben researched it. Yeah. Ben would love to research that.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: He goes crazy with that stuff. So, yeah, I I don't exactly know. I just know that there's a lot more happening in space. They are utilizing they are all trying to get to Mars by February. And the moon obviously is like a satellite to the Earth.
• 1:16:01
  So, like, building shop there doesn't really surprise me very much.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Alright. So Bean, which hello, Bean. I'm sorry to hear you've gone through your COVID stuff. I hope you're feeling better. Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  And you so you've asked, how are they having COVID lockdowns? Or is it they're just trying to contain people or another virus? Sort of referring to China. And this is the this is the really the the discussion is like so there's a few theories that I have. One is that there's some other virus or some other variation.
• 1:16:35
  I know there's been discussion Or a magic fever.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Or COVID nineteen is mutated. We don't know.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Or exactly. So I think that there's something happening because as we talked about earlier, like, I think this is a battle of good and evil. And I believe that the that God is starting to enact punishment on China. And especially the people that are part of the CCP, the high up level of the CCP. So I think that there there are some biblical things happening.
• 1:17:01
  So part of me thinks that this, like, insane reaction to these cases is because the CCP is frightened. Like they're frightened because they know that God is now starting to rain down wrath. Actually, tell them about Jiang Zemin hiding. How he was so scared of SARS that he was literally hiding. This is back
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: in 02/2002. He would he would hide away to to stay away from any places that could possibly infect him because he he knows he's the devil.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and also, actually, that brings us into our our next question to some extent, but I'm just gonna answer this one a little bit more really quickly. Have so I'm gonna reread the question. How are they having COVID lockdowns, or is it just trying to contain people or another virus? Really, it's complicated.
• 1:17:49
  Whenever it's the CCP, it's complicated, and it's more than one thing. However, the the lockdowns are most likely to appear as like zero COVID cases. Right? They're trying to contain this, and so if nobody leaves home, even if they die, there are no COVID cases, and it won't get to the CCP officials who are actually, like, terrified like Jiang Zemin was that we just pointed out. So it indicates that they're very afraid.
• 1:18:14
  They're afraid that the world is going to catch on to this. They're extremely afraid of looking weak. China never wants to look weak with anything that it does. So any breakout within China makes them look weak, and they wanna stamp it out as if it's a person that's speaking up against them, as if it makes them look like they're not in full control. Every all of these all of these globalists, the CCP, whoever it is, what they're looking for is power control.
• 1:18:37
  So this makes them look like they don't have a lot of power. So I do think that it's virus related. I think that there's a lot of people that and I also think that it's food related, and the CCP just doesn't care about their people. So they'll lock them indoors, if they die, they die.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree. So, Benair Donat, who I named all my chickens after, what is your definition of the third Antichrist being, person, place, or thing. Thank you. So I, you know, I don't You can answer
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: this from a few different questions.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily look at the antichrist. Know I know people at one point said that, you know, Barack Obama was the antichrist or whatever. It's like, I don't let necessarily try to figure out which person it is in that way. Because I think that there's just so much that we won't know. And the more you dig into it, especially the deep state, the cabal, the CCP, there's so much smoke and mirrors, and we have no idea who's controlling.
• 1:19:37
  Even the 13 families that we think that we're all familiar with, you know, Rothschild, etc. Like, and Rob's done some deep dives on this, there's families that control those families. So the ant the real Antichrist might be some like 40 year old dude sitting in a in a deep underground, you know, cavern under the Vatican for all we know that no one even knows exists. The black Yes. But I do believe that Satan is real and that the that Satan has attached himself to the Chinese Communist Party.
• 1:20:11
  Like, I like I and that's why when people are asking, like, who do you think the real threat is? I think that it is the CCP. I think the CCP is more evil and more demonic even than the cabal. As crazy as that might sound to you, some of the stuff that I've researched about them in my own, you know, just yeah, this research shows me that they are, there's something very dark and evil about the CCP.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Very much so. Do you want me to give the occult answer to this?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, of course. Okay. This is edge of wonder here.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. So really this this question is it can be tackled from a few different directions, but if you know a lot about what's really happening on the occult side of things. So we all know, like, we've all been covering this, the great reset, the, you know, like, why they're trying globalists, what that means, communism, you know, why communism and satanism are so closely related. There's a lot of there's a lot of things that you can find that relate the two. Even even like their their their biggest holiday.
• 1:21:13
  I can't remember what the exact date is. Is it May 1? But their biggest holiday is also on the satanic calendar is like is like their biggest holiday. So so their creation day was also on the satanic calendar, which is ridiculous. Right?
• 1:21:26
  Like, that come on. Is that really is that really a coincidence? Okay. So the what these occultists think, and you can research this by in different ways by looking into Helena Blavatsky or Alistair Crowley, digging into secret societies, really trying to get and figure out why do they have to keep them secret. Why don't they just have them open and talk about all of these things?
• 1:21:48
  Why do you have to go through all of these stages of of proving that you can keep a secret before they tell you all of their secrets at the thirty three degree of Freemasonry? Who was the Bavarian Illuminati? Right? All of these different things. Who are these families?
• 1:22:01
  Why did people consider them Satanists? Well, actually, if you look at the Bible as the thing that they're against, the the the main thing that they're against is the Christian God, Jesus, the Bible. Everything that they do would be they're using that as a playbook like, oh, this is all the things that it says. So we're gonna purposely do the reverse of what it says to be good. We're gonna do the the the worst thing that we can do.
• 1:22:27
  So instead of just waiting for the antichrist, they have been trying to create multiple antichrists by interbreeding with these different families that they claim have been seated with the seed of Satan. Now, by the way, I'm not telling you this is what I think. I'm telling you that's what these psychos think. Okay? Or that's what's reported that they think.
• 1:22:47
  So they've been trying to create a bunch of these so that they can have these antichrists all over the world, and then anyone that sticks to the wall is the one they'll go with, basically. Right? But what they don't understand is that they're the losers in this story. They are. There is no reality where they win.
• 1:23:03
  But what they're trying to do to affect those things is to is to destroy man's soul by having us decay so much that God no longer wants to take care of us so that they can have control the way that they want it. And that's why it's very important for us to not go that direction and to be good moral people and to actually believe in something. I mean, look at every single aspect of what's going on today, whether it be science and atheism or all of it. Science science itself should not be atheist because they don't know. They don't know if God is real.
• 1:23:37
  Right? So science itself can't disprove God is real. They also can't prove God is real right now. But actually, if they were looking into the right things, they could.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: They could.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: They could easily. Okay. So these things are to answer your question, they think they're making a person as an antichrist or multiple antichrists. But the fact of the matter is that it kind of doesn't even matter because they're they're just not the winning team in this in this play. They're not gonna win.
• 1:24:03
  They're kind of pathetic. They're big losers. They're losers. Yeah. Like, think about how pathetic their lives are that they revolve everything around this.
• 1:24:10
  It's like, it's actually laughable when you really start thinking about it. It's like, oh, you just like, imagine showing up at dinner with them, and they're like, don't sit in that seat. And you're like, why? They're like, that's for Satan. You'd be like, okay.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if your name was Klaus Schwab.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That name alone, you know, like, oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright. Metal Avenger, What do you think about the tetanus vaccine? It's the only vaccine that I want to get again. Would it be good to get now before the supply chains, etcetera, break down?
• 1:24:42
  I don't feel like I'm really qualified to answer that. I know that like me personally, I do not I won't get any more vaccines in my entire life, whether it's tetanus vaccine or COVID, doesn't matter. Just I've done too much research into vaccines and all the heavy metals. And also, just I just I don't trust anything that big pharma produces. So, you know, my daughter's not gonna get vaccinated.
• 1:25:08
  I just won't touch those things. But I also know that, you know, the think I actually got a tetanus shot when I was younger because I had a cut. And I know it can protect you from certain infections. So I can't say I have a good answer for you. Might be a good thing.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: I can answer this question really simply. Sorry, I'm not a biologist.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There you go.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: No. No. It's true. Like, actually, I'm not really I'm not sure whether vaccines really work, you know, but there's something very strange about injecting a virus into me in order to make my body be able to fight a virus. Like, doesn't that whole rationale doesn't really quite never really has worked for me.
• 1:25:56
  So I personally am not really into the idea of doing that ever. I just don't want vaccines. It just seems weird. Why would I I'm trying to purify my body. I don't wanna inject myself with impurities.
• 1:26:07
  Yeah. But at the same time, if someone out there really believes in them and all that stuff, I might be supportive, but not with what he just said. Yeah. It's like it's like we don't know what is in those vaccines, who is behind those vaccines, what their ultimate goals for those vaccines are, whether they're out for money or they're out for helping people. It's a complicated mess, and it's not one I wanna get involved in.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep. So metal avenger, gosh, what a good question. The power of the mind. Do you think it would help if we all focus on the downfall of the CCP and on getting our freedom back?
• 1:26:37
  Yes. Yeah. Actually, I agree with that so much. Yeah. And honestly, if you're whether you're meditating on this or you're praying, even if in your prayers you say, you know, dear Lord, please help eliminate the CCP from this earth.
• 1:26:57
  Please help to destroy. I think that that will help actually in this battle. It's actually it's something that when I'm praying, I will add I will literally add that thought into some of my prayers.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I will ask God to please help eliminate the CCP from this earth.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Every I mean, I do think that the power of a collective people wanting and believing something is is very powerful. I think also in that process, us cleaning up ourselves so that we can we can be at the level to feel, I think, good enough to ask that of the Creator is also like really important. So like there's a there's an internal and an external aspect of that whole thing. I'm not trying to be like a minister here.
• 1:27:46
  I'm just this is my understanding, and you can take it or leave it, you know? Yes.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, thank you. Rob Van who says please keep in mind that Rise TV for legal reasons can only give opinions is not a valid source of legal, medical or financial advice. All comments are solely the personal opinions of the hosts. Thank you, Rob Van for he's probably an attorney.
• 1:28:05
  He's like, these guys are gonna get sued.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Rob Van may not be an attorney, but he's awesome.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: There you go. Okay. So rebuilding the truth. Question. Is Satan more akin to a magician using sleight of hand as his power of merely tricks as his power is merely tricks that humans fall for?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I'm gonna read this again. Power sorry. Is Satan more akin to a magician using sleight of hand as his power of merely tricks that humans fall for? Yes and yes and no.
• 1:28:39
  Yes. I mean, yes in that. He's think about it. Think about think about the beginning of Lucifer. I don't like what daddy's doing.
• 1:28:51
  I'm gonna get a bunch of people and rebel, and we're gonna we're gonna take over. Like, it's literally like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: He gets he feels the boot on his back as he falls onto onto Earth.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: That's literally what happened, and God watched him benevolently for a long time. He waged war in the heavens. God gave him multiple chances. It was finally like, you guys gotta go. I mean, you guys gotta go, and you were my favorite.
• 1:29:12
  You were my actual favorite. And so he cast them all down. Right? Thing is is like, I don't think that ever really changed. There there was no point where he was like, I'm, you know, I'm really sorry, and I need to make up for this.
• 1:29:24
  No. He just kept doing what he's doing. The war is still going on in his mind. He he's like that he's like that really detached war veteran that's still in war even when he got back or something. I don't know.
• 1:29:35
  But the thing is is, like, every every possible way of manipulation is at his fingertips. I mean, you know, and it's not you have to keep in mind that we're not just talking about now people have different understandings of this, but if you read deeply into these things, it's really not just about Satan. Like, his whole gang of dummies were all were all going against this and all waging war together, and they all think that they have these different powers, and that this is what this these occultists think that they're connecting with. They believe they're in this dimension. They're in other dimensions.
• 1:30:12
  They're now they're trying to connect via this AI model that they have. It's just really eye rolly, and it's gonna end. It's gotta end at some point. It's dumb. Yeah.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I one thing I do believe with this is that the the evil is Oz. Right? Like, they're they're this weak thing behind a curtain. Yeah.
• 1:30:35
  And like they so I agree with you a lot from that perspective that I think a lot of their strength comes from their deception. And it's like, even if okay. If you extrapolate this, you look at the fact that like what Rob just said, it's like Satan got kicked out of heaven. Right? He's the weak one here.
• 1:30:54
  So, like, if we feel like we're battling Satan, are we alone or do we have God on our side? And so it's like, even if Satan does have some power, which I believe that he does, I believe that evil is a powerful force. Right? I do believe even more so that that they aren't as strong as us. But we only have that strength if we ask God for it.
• 1:31:15
  And so if we're in a difficult spot or you feel afraid or ever, it's like, it's like, God, please help me here. Like when God sees that, like, He will get have our backs. Yeah. So I think that a lot of their strength does come from the deception and comes from the shadows on the wall, comes from the man behind the curtain. And when you actually look at it really, they're actually very weak, especially now they're the cabal and the evil and the CCP, they are the weakest they've ever been.
• 1:31:45
  And I think they are very close to their own destruction.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We'll probably be experiencing all of that in our lifetimes.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Gonna help push it forward every way I can.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. Also, like, know, wait, you were just talking about what was the last thing that you just said? Last sentence that you just said?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: That they are actually really weak and that they're they're like on the on the edge of their own destruction.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think that the I think that the that these guys, they've they've pumped themselves up just like Seth has said. Like, they everything is an appearance. Like, with the CCP, everything is an appearance. But often what's behind the scenes is not necessarily what they want you to see.
• 1:32:28
  It's chaos. And and, yeah, I I just think that that, you know, to give an example of how all of this works, it's like Jesus never put on armor. Yeah. He took out a whip once maybe. But, like, he never he never put on armor.
• 1:32:43
  And other other, you know, what you might call, like, I I wanna be sensitive to people's beliefs here or how they understand all of this stuff. But it's like, if we take the example of of Jesus or even Socrates, Socrates' power was in a strange way in that he didn't fight. He actually influenced, like, generations of people. It created the legal system that we now have in a way that never could have been done through Socratic method, and he was un you couldn't argue him. He he was introducing tradition back into a culture that was completely gone.
• 1:33:20
  It was, like, all gone there. And Jesus never put on armor or fought. He fought with kindness and compassion, and he he led us through example. Sometimes people think that their fists are the way to fight. But but through examples of some of these other great men in history, really, is kindness our biggest weapon?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: Is is the human part of us that can connect with the divine the the strongest part? You know, this is what I think we should be asking ourselves.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Also, it's asking for help from the big guy.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: It is. It's literally like connecting right in. I mean
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: So just so you folks know it's three thirty five, three 30 six. We can only go until 03:45 today. So we've got a lot of questions. So we're gonna have to answer a little more quickly, but also there's a few questions I wanted to jump to because we have a thing we have to get to at 04:00 we have to get ready for as well. But there's one question here that this was it was from chicken coop lady.
• 1:34:20
  And well, for one, she asked quickly, will Rob get chickens? Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's your quick answer. Yep.
• 1:34:27
  And she recommends is the Spitzhaubens or Polishes because they're known for their hair.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Will do. Also gonna get some Rhode Island reds because I'm from there.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Yep. And some barred rock. Some barred rocks.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: No. Definitely not moving to Austin whoever asked that. Who
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: asked that? I'm not sure.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Texan to the core. Yeah. No. Not moving to Austin.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Also, I do not consent. Do you think moving out of The USA is a good idea like South America? Moral idea. No. USA is the single best place to live on earth.
• 1:34:57
  We have the second amendment here. We have like the the the pride, the patriotism, the Judeo Christian values, like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: No place is good Yes. Right now, honestly. Like, I I I appreciate what you're saying. But at the same time, like, we can all see what's happening here even here right now. Like no place is good but leaving The US might be the worst idea actually.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I agree. This is one of the questions. Chicken coop lady, are you ever scared to do what you guys do? I grew up digging into all this stuff and my eyes were scared wide open, but I struggle to get more involved knowing what could happen.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Tell you who I'm not afraid of. Satan. Lucifer. Like I said, he's a whining baby. But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's scary.
• 1:35:43
  Humans are known for doing, you know, scary and despicable things. But I feel like we were, we have to do this. We have to try to do this, and I think, you know, if there's a way for me to improve in all of this, regardless of what happens, I'll look for those opportunities, and I'll try to move towards having more and more faith in the divine and not less. And I think that this is what we're being tested to do right now. This is where this is the direction that things are going, and I need to remind myself too that no matter what happens, like, you know, faith is the answer.
• 1:36:25
  Like, being more being better and better, you know, that that that spark of human being, that eternal flame inside of of like compassion and kindness and everything is is the is the direction to go. Selflessness. I don't know. Yeah. What do you think?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: No. I'm in a similar place. I I've I've had certain points like, you know, when the January 6 happened and when Biden first got in and there were some times where I was actually worried. I thought like, you know, am I gonna have FBI show up my front door and but I feel like that there's some part of me now that is similar to what you're saying. Like, I'm just supposed to do this.
• 1:37:09
  And maybe, yeah, there there is fear every once in a while. But I also I look at it and I still say that I would rather do this than not. Like, I would rather, like, was it like stand on my or kind of die on my feet than, you know, kind of live on my knees. Like, there's a saying like that. Right?
• 1:37:27
  It's like, I forget what the saying was. But it's like at this time in history, this is what I just feel called to do. I know this is a war. I know that God gave me certain, you know, skills I can use in this war and I have to do this. And I see that you say that you're scared for your kids.
• 1:37:45
  Me too. But actually like that's what fuels me is that I spend every day, every day. I know you do too, Robin. You spend most of your nights too, you don't sleep, fighting this battle because it's actually for my kids. You know, because the evil that we're seeing, if I just lay down because I'm scared, I don't want to fight, what's going to happen when I pass on?
• 1:38:10
  And then my kids are left with the world that I didn't fight to protect for them. And so that becomes something that right there helps me get past the fear that I have.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: And I think if some type of agent came to the house, I'd be like, hey, you're in time for dinner. Like, come Yeah. Come sit down. Let's like, let's talk about this. Like, you know, what can I do?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: And I'd like, hey, honey, give him the special wine. He's like
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: Put a little blankie on him.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, drag him into the safe room and you know? Yeah. So alright. So wings over Texas.
• 1:38:51
  There's a there are rumors that a lot of the people that are coming into our country are coming to be used to perform an attack on America and the American people. What are your thoughts?
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: Not all of them.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I've heard a lot of these rumors too. And I agree that yeah, not all of them, but like you see these videos of like fighting aged males like being bust into America. It's not the women and children. Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  So I do believe that there is part of that. That like, we're just at the beginning of this plan unraveling for them. And that part of it that part of it might be a real destabilization of America where they have a lot of the people that are coming into our country. You know, they these are communist tactics. I remember I asked Jeff Nyquist this question.
• 1:39:38
  He goes, yeah. He goes, there's actually, like, communists, like, what some of the defectors have talked about. I forget that it was some sort of Sputnik Plan, but basically where they were hiding large caches of weapons in America for the people that have come into America I've heard this to access that. And then if you dig into it, there's I've heard a lot of of information about, like, Gavin Newsom having large underground caches of weapons, like full auto weapons and everything. So yeah, there's a chance of it again, that that to me, like just highlights the point of get out of the city, get into the country where you can defend your property better.
• 1:40:16
  And if you can't, then get to know someone who does have the ability to get you out of the city.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I also think that just to give you guys like different way to look at this, like Texas is the size, is larger than France. Texas, that state is larger than France. I heard recently that you could fit the entire world's population in Texas if it was built up like Manhattan.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It it's like The United States is huge, and, you know, they can bust people in, but there are going to be area they can't control everything, not every area. So it is. It's true.
• 1:40:56
  Like what he said, is if you can if you can build a community in a good area and you guys are working together, and I don't mean a commune. I don't mean that. Like Burning Man. Yeah. I definitely don't mean like Burning Man.
• 1:41:09
  That would be a mess, them trying to fight bad guys.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: Where's the glow sticks? Yeah. But yeah. No. I think I think what he said is exactly right.
• 1:41:21
  You probably want to find a good a good area if you can, you know, and if not, then you've really got to, like, do do your best to plan, to have a to have a plan. Where you're gonna go, who you're gonna go with, how you're gonna hold down. Your backpack's ready to go. You have a grab bag with all the stuff that you need for x amount of time, maybe a bit of gas to get out of wherever you need to go, and then just have that plan ready to go. You know?
• 1:41:45
  Whatever it is. Even if it's on foot, there's no excuse. Someone you can have a plan.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Exactly. I'll do a quick shout out to two people. Fernley, who I see on here, which I still owe a phone call. I apologize.
• 1:41:58
  He's actually a friend of mine. And my mom. Mom +1 776 who is on here. So hi, mom. You can wave wave to her too.
• 1:42:07
  Hi, mom. Rob and I had fajitas with her over the weekend.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: We did.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Okay. So it's 03:44. Let's do we have one more question. I think that this one is a great question right here. It's a really important one.
• 1:42:21
  This is from f r three d j who says, we hear that the deep state and new world order is dead. But everything seems to point the other way. What are the where are the signs? I'm depressed today with the stupidity of Quebecer Quebecers and Canadians.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Who said that they were dead? Is this one of those, like, like, trust the plan things or something? Or no, I mean, genuine question. I don't know. Like, I don't always keep up with everything, you know.
• 1:42:51
  I mean, the NWO is is a it's it's past, present, and future. Like, they've been working towards this goal for for you could argue like a hundred years or you could argue millennia. So, no, the NWO I mean, the Babylon was the NWO. Back then, they were trying to create a new world order in one place. When God told everyone to go other places, they all go to Babylon, build the Tower Of Babel, and then God destroyed the whole thing after not following his directions.
• 1:43:20
  You know? And then we hear about it a couple thousand years later, and we still don't learn. So now they're trying to do the Babylon as being like the entire earth because they have technology now, if you can kind of look at it that way. The thing is is like, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of people that are confused. But don't you realize that's why you're here?
• 1:43:41
  That's why you're, like, watching this show in a way is it's like those people need someone to turn to. And if they don't have you, if you're not their hero, then who's gonna do it? This is an opportunity for us to build in and cultivate that compassion and that understanding and be able to, like, actually reach people at their very core. And if you're going through that process and you're doing that, I feel like you're doing for yourself what's right, and then you're also doing what probably your mission is in the first place. So maybe turn that energy around, and instead of getting depressed by it, try to look at this as like, you know, yeah, this is the situation.
• 1:44:16
  This is actually really sad, and and maybe there's something that I can do about it in a safe way for yourself. You know? And and and, of course, like, in a nonviolent way. That's not what we're talking about. But I think you get what I'm saying.
• 1:44:28
  Is that clear?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I I also think that there are, you know, I agree with you that they're not dead. I think they're still alive and well, but I think that they're almost dead. And I think that, you know, part of it is what we talked about earlier was that Satan and the evil in general, they have their strength through deception. And so when their deception no longer works, they lose their strength.
• 1:44:55
  The evil was was 20 times or a hundred times more strong or stronger ten years ago than they are now. How do I know that? Because no one knew about them ten years ago, except Alex Jones and a few folks that were just that were actually out there. Talking about
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: the NWO?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Or just the evil in general. Yeah. Like, now I'm not saying no one, but compared to now, it's very, very few people. You know what mean?
• 1:45:18
  So the fact that so many people are like, to me, I see the signs of it's like, look at this way. How do they have their strength? They have their strength through deception, through controlling the narrative, through their propaganda. So I look at the metrics of those things. People don't watch mainstream media anymore.
• 1:45:36
  CNN's lost 90% of its viewers. You know, people are leaving Netflix. Like all these indicators, Oscars are the lowest level possible. So you pull some stupid stunt to get more viewership like, you know, Will Smith, you smacked me. So all of these to me are indicators that they are losing their control and they're getting desperate and they're getting frantic.
• 1:45:59
  So I think that if we can just kind of buckle down and and just kind of be ready for the fight that they might bring and keep strong in our faith, they're not gonna win.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also think like that whole thing is like a it's like poison or a parasite or something. It's not it's like you just it takes time to get them all out, and then and then they're gone. But you can you can count on them being a parasite or poison up until the very end. So we've just got to keep and like Rob Van said here, persevere.
• 1:46:29
  He said that was one of the biggest things is patience and perseverance. And I think I agree with that a lot. I think we need to be very patient. We need to persevere.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. Alright, folks. So that is the end of today's show. A big, big thank you to everyone on Rise TV that are supporting us. If you are here on a free trial on Thursday, I'll be going live with a q and a afterwards.
• 1:46:53
  Tonight at 07:30,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: this guy is going live. Yes. We're gonna have actually a big show on what happened at the Oscars and a bunch of other things related to celebrities and all of that stuff. Trying to dig through and be and and figure out what exactly is going on. It's gonna be a fun show.
• 1:47:07
  So tonight at 07:30 on Rumble and on Rise TV. You can find us there. Yep. And then Friday at 07:30 Edge Wonder Channel. Sorry.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Yep. Friday 07:30 is F and L. Yes. Friday Night Live, which will be a lot of fun. Always is.
• 1:47:21
  We had some fun this last show.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: did. And yeah, just just check around, but we we really thank you for being part of what we're doing.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would also say if you wanna know more about specifically the World Economic Forum and technology, because this is a gigantic part of this whole thing, please watch Edge of Wonder's live show last Thursday. I think on the on the thumbnail it says Tech Tyranny, the World Economic Forum. Definitely watch that because we go through and explain exactly how they're planning on bringing a lot of these changes, and it's it's just it's very thorough and we have a big infographic. So you're going to want to check that out.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Yep. So alright, folks. Well, that's it. I hope we hope you enjoyed Rob and I live in the studio in the studio together. We're going to try to hopefully do more of this in the future.
• 1:48:08
  This is just it's fun.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, guys. We love
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: you and thank you all. And a big thank you to Dom, who did a fantastic job helping us run the show.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: And And I just want to thank this guy for having me here. So thank you guys very much for watching. Seth, thank you so much for having me here. It's been a great couple of days. And, yeah, we'll see you guys soon.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Alright. Take care, everybody.