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#1237 - The 3 Big Things We Learnt From Easter Holidays · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: Well, the Easter holidays are over, school is back and
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  Speaker 1: life has resumed its regular routine. Today I'm a Happy
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  Speaker 1: Families podcast. We review our three big holiday take home messages.
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  Speaker 1: Things that we learned across the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: of holidays that have changed our outlook and can also
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  Speaker 1: change yours. I'll do better tomorrow. Welcome to the Happy
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  Speaker 1: Families Podcast, Real parenting solutions every day on Australia's most
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  Speaker 1: downloaded parenting podcasts. We are Justin and Kylie Coulson. Kylie,
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  Speaker 1: we've had well, I guess three weeks, three weeks of downtime,
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  Speaker 1: three weeks of holidays.
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  Speaker 2: You're feeling refreshed, except for the jet lag part. I
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  Speaker 2: actually am. Everybody who's seen me since we've been home
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  Speaker 2: has acknowledged that I'm looking really good. My body's just
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  Speaker 2: got to catch up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny, only a couple of hours difference.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't go very far, but it really sort of
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  Speaker 1: knocked us around. Okay, three take home messages. There are
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  Speaker 1: three things to discuss. The first one is we went
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  Speaker 1: to the Easter Show in Sydney with the kids and
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  Speaker 1: for the first time ever, we actually really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a really good experience.
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  Speaker 1: To me, The central message of it is this, we
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  Speaker 1: went to the Easter Show maybe five, six, seven years
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  Speaker 1: ago something like that. Felt like we spent an absolute fortune,
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  Speaker 1: had a miserable time, big crowds, big lines, lots of
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  Speaker 1: money on total junk, everything felt expensive, just hated it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: everything was overpriced the Easter Show. That's how it works. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this time we went to the Easter Show knowing that
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  Speaker 1: there would be big lines, big crowds, everything would be overpriced,
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  Speaker 1: it would be junk, and we kind of went with
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  Speaker 1: the attitude, oh well, it is what it is, and
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  Speaker 1: we're doing it for the experience. Ended up spending pretty
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  Speaker 1: much exactly the same amount of money as we spent
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  Speaker 1: the last time we went, adjusted for inflation. Obviously there's
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  Speaker 1: been a cost of living shift, but pretty much spent
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same amount of money. This time we loved it, like,
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  Speaker 1: had the best time, and so did the kids. It
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  Speaker 1: was such a great day out at the show.
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  Speaker 2: And so my take home from all of that is
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  Speaker 2: just this idea that when we have a shift in mindset,
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  Speaker 2: we can experience the same thing but have a completely
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  Speaker 2: different outcome.
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  Speaker 1: So my mindset the first time, And let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: the reason that the show was horrible half a dozen
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  Speaker 1: years ago when we went was because I had a
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  Speaker 1: terrible attitude. Every time I was asked for money for food,
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  Speaker 1: or for a showbag, or for a ride, or for
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  Speaker 1: anything at all, my response to it was something like, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: This is just so ridiculous. It's so expensive.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I believe much. What do they do?
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  Speaker 1: What do they want?
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  Speaker 2: Nine dollars for lemonade? Yeah, that's pretty bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I had heart failure every time I had
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  Speaker 1: to fork out for anything at all, and I was
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  Speaker 1: miserable spending every cent Whereas this time, I knew that
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be what it was, and I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of excited for the experience.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the other things that really really
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  Speaker 2: helped was the last time we went, we might I've
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  Speaker 2: taken six kids.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it's time. We only took two kids,
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  Speaker 1: and we spent the same amount. And yet for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's a mindset thing. Okay, so whether you're going to
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  Speaker 1: watch the kids play sport on the weekend or going
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  Speaker 1: to a school assembly, I'm known to have a bad
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  Speaker 1: attitude when I've got to go to one of those,
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  Speaker 1: or whether you go to the show, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: the way you set it up in your head has
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  Speaker 1: a huge impact on whether or not allly positive experience
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  Speaker 1: or not. So when your experience and your expectations meet,
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  Speaker 1: you usually have a good experience. When your experience is
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  Speaker 1: different to your expectations, that's when it doesn't typically work
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  Speaker 1: out so well. You've got high expectations, the experience is
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  Speaker 1: not substanti and so it's horrible. I knew that it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be expensive. I knew that we were
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  Speaker 1: going to be buying a whole lot of junk. I
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  Speaker 1: knew that the kids would be hassling and pestering for
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff, and I kind of had it in
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  Speaker 1: my head, well, it's probably going to cost us this much,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just what it is, and we don't really
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  Speaker 1: have the money, and it's going on the card, and
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  Speaker 1: it's this and it's that. But whatever, we're going so
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  Speaker 1: that we can do the show, so that we can
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  Speaker 1: have fund so that we can have the experience, so
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  Speaker 1: that our youngest kids who haven't really been to the
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  Speaker 1: show and done it, can do it. And we had
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  Speaker 1: so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I would say that number one. The lines were
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  Speaker 2: nowhere near as long as the credits back huge.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how many people were there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the experiences that we had were so tailored
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  Speaker 2: to our specific needs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we planned the day a bit better we did.
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  Speaker 2: We planned the day and we'd learned from previous experience,
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  Speaker 2: and as a result, we were actually quite sheltered. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there were lots of people, but it wasn't like we
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  Speaker 2: were having to push through crowds to enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: We played it well.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the only other thing that I would
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  Speaker 2: add other than mindset was knowledge. We actually know how
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  Speaker 2: the Easter show works. We'd had conversations with a few
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  Speaker 2: other friends who have done it before to work out
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  Speaker 2: parking and what was going to be the best way
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  Speaker 2: to navigate our day, And because of that, it just
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  Speaker 2: made for a really, really enjoyable day.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Our second take home message from the recent holidays
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  Speaker 1: is a two parter.
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  Speaker 2: This was no fun.
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  Speaker 1: No, this was a really tough one. And yet I
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  Speaker 1: don't take back a single word that I've ever said
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  Speaker 1: so on this podcast, I have repeatedly said your children
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  Speaker 1: should do at least one thing per week that could
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  Speaker 1: land them in hospital.
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  Speaker 2: And I am sure that every mother who is listening
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  Speaker 2: to this has gasped yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to acknowledge the glib nature of what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Right, So, if your child ends up in
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  Speaker 1: hospital or something worse happens to them, then it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like I'm being uncaring. But what I'm really getting at
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  Speaker 1: is that our children need to be involved in risky play.
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  Speaker 1: It's good for them. That reduces their anxiety. They live
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  Speaker 1: a more full life when they do things that are
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  Speaker 1: challenging and that are generally outdoors and that have them
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  Speaker 1: finding the boundaries and the edges and learning from experience
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  Speaker 1: when they overstep those boundaries and edges. I'm not encouraging
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  Speaker 1: explicit danger. I'm not encouraging full heartiness.
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  Speaker 2: And no, the reality is climbing a tree, there is
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  Speaker 2: the potential that your child will fall out of the
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  Speaker 2: tree and end up with a broken lemp.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to bounce when they land.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, even being on the trampoline.
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  Speaker 1: So when I say your child should do something every
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  Speaker 1: week that could land them in hospital, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: them in hospital, but I do want them having the experiences. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: in the second week of the school holidays when you
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  Speaker 1: and I we organized to have a short getaway just
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  Speaker 1: the two of us. We were on an airplane. We
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  Speaker 1: had Wi Fi on the plane. I get a text
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  Speaker 1: message and our daughter, Lily, age fifteen, has fallen off
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  Speaker 1: a horse and the horse.
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  Speaker 2: Has rearranged her face a little walked.
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  Speaker 1: On her face. Yeah, run across her face. So she's
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  Speaker 1: fractured her eye socket. She's got two breaks around her eye.
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  Speaker 1: She's in hospital, and we're kind of going and now
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  Speaker 1: it is the start. I hate to think at the
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  Speaker 1: end of it's going to and so I'm like that
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  Speaker 1: that's the whole story. She got off the horse to
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  Speaker 1: open a she went to get back on the horse.
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  Speaker 1: The horse sort of bolted before she was on the horse.
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  Speaker 1: She fell under the horse, and the horse literally ran
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  Speaker 1: across her face and broke her face. Literally broke the
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  Speaker 1: bones around her eye socket in a couple of places.
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  Speaker 1: And it's pretty nasty. May end up needing reconstructive surgery
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  Speaker 1: if things don't heal right. We're still going through that
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  Speaker 1: process at the moment. Take her message your children should
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  Speaker 1: do something every week that could land them in hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I stand by it. In fact, I'm just as strong
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  Speaker 1: on it, and we are fortunate. I mean, this could
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  Speaker 1: have been tragic, this could have ended up awfully, but
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  Speaker 1: the reality is, and I say this with gratitude in
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  Speaker 1: my heart and the prayer towards Heaven for what happened,
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  Speaker 1: but she was okay, even though she's technically not really okay,
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  Speaker 1: she was okay. She didn't have a tragic end here.
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  Speaker 1: And we have the resources and the facilities and the
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  Speaker 1: medical infrastructure in place that she is going to be okay.
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  Speaker 1: And the overwhelming, massive, incredibly huge majority of our children,
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  Speaker 1: even when they do have accidents like this, they are
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  Speaker 1: still okay. And that's my point.
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  Speaker 2: And the learning that she gets out of this experience.
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  Speaker 1: She'll be a better horse rider now.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent, but she'll be better in lots of
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  Speaker 2: other areas of life because she will have recognized and
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  Speaker 2: learned to a certain extent, her limitations. She learns to
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  Speaker 2: take calculated risks. She's not just going I want to
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  Speaker 2: jump off that.
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  Speaker 1: Cliff or I want to ride that horse now that
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  Speaker 1: I've ridden this horse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there is an assessment process, an internal assessment
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  Speaker 2: process that she's going to take and go. Actually, that's
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  Speaker 2: probably not what I want to do, but I could
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  Speaker 2: do this.
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  Speaker 1: Similarly, one of our daughters got to spend some time
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  Speaker 1: with some friends on a property that they have, and
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  Speaker 1: she wrote a motorbike for the first time. Now that
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  Speaker 1: terrifies me even more than riding a horse. But she
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  Speaker 1: didn't fall off, and she didn't break anything, and she
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  Speaker 1: came home and she had a ball. And I've told
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  Speaker 1: her that when she turns thirty, she's welcome to get
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  Speaker 1: her motorcycle licenses. She wants to. But again, this lesson
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  Speaker 1: that I keep on emphasizing. And our daughter whose face
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  Speaker 1: has been broken by this horse, she doesn't resent it,
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  Speaker 1: she's not regretful. She loves riding horses.
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  Speaker 2: And can't wait to get back to it.
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  Speaker 1: Literally can't wait to get back on the horse. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess the thing that I want to emphasize here
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  Speaker 1: is even when it doesn't end well, it still ends well,
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  Speaker 1: except in the most tragic cases. And I have obviously
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  Speaker 1: a painful heart for anyone who's gone through something worse.
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  Speaker 1: But our children should be taking risks and it's good
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  Speaker 1: for them. And now she's got an incredible story to
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  Speaker 1: tell about how her face got stomped on by a horse.
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  Speaker 1: For the rest of her life.
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  Speaker 2: A little while ago, we were in a restaurant and
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  Speaker 2: I saw a young boy come up to his parents
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  Speaker 2: with a cast on his arm. Once upon a time,
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  Speaker 2: You've said this before on the podcast, but once upon
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  Speaker 2: a time you would see cast all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually quite rare to see a child in any
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  Speaker 2: kind of cast these days. And I actually had the
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  Speaker 2: feeling and thought I want to high five of his parents.
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  Speaker 2: I looked at that kid, I just thought, you are
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  Speaker 2: living life like you're actually living life. You're not cotton woolves,
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  Speaker 2: You're not bubbled up. You are literally living life and
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  Speaker 2: doing it great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, after the break, I'm going to share a bit
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  Speaker 1: more about living life and your final take home message
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  Speaker 1: from the Easter break. Okay, so living life fully means
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  Speaker 1: that sometimes we do things that could put ourselves in
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  Speaker 1: risky situations. That includes you, that includes me. I went
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  Speaker 1: on a surfing trip. You came with me. The waves
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  Speaker 1: were solid, and at one point I caught a wave
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't end up particularly well for me. And
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  Speaker 1: because of where we were, I was only wearing a
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  Speaker 1: rash shirt and boardies. I didn't have a wetsuit on
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  Speaker 1: the wave threw me into the water and I got
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  Speaker 1: dragged along my back across the top of a reef.
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  Speaker 2: You did a really good job of not telling me
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  Speaker 2: for a little.
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  Speaker 1: While several hours. Yeah, you found out because somebody else
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  Speaker 1: was inquiring about my back, because everyone else at the
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  Speaker 1: camp knew about my back except for you. Yes, but
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing what some Betta Deine and some Alevira and
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just went surfing again a couple of
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  Speaker 1: hours after I did it. But again, having the experience
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  Speaker 1: living fully doing things that are potentially dangerous certainly that
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  Speaker 1: can contain an element of risk, allow you to live
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  Speaker 1: life better. And I've got scarring on my back now
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  Speaker 1: that maybe lifelong. I've got scars on my back that
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  Speaker 1: look like I have been tortured and whipped. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of nasty, and I don't regret it for a second
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  Speaker 1: because the waves were incredible and I had a fantastic time,
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  Speaker 1: and it was something that I was actively choosing to
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  Speaker 1: do because I love it. So that's my take home
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  Speaker 1: message is your children and even you as adults, should
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  Speaker 1: do things that can land you in hospital. Why because
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  Speaker 1: so long as you're not being silly, foolish and dangerous
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  Speaker 1: taking risk is a necessary part of living a full
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  Speaker 1: and active way. What's your final take home message from
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  Speaker 1: the Easter break?
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  Speaker 2: So my take home message, while you were busy surfing,
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  Speaker 2: I actually had.
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  Speaker 1: I have to interrupt you. I have to interrupt you.
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  Speaker 1: You on day one you told me go surfing as
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  Speaker 1: much as you want, you just do you do you,
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  Speaker 1: And it's just occurred to me that you did that
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  Speaker 1: for you, not for me. Possibly possibly I took that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was happy to serve seven hours a day.
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  Speaker 2: You definitely did. I might have felt a bit neglected.
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  Speaker 1: By the end of it, all right, So what's the
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  Speaker 1: take home message. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
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  Speaker 2: What I loved was the absolute disconnect we got to
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  Speaker 2: have from the outside world, very limited WiFi where we were,
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  Speaker 2: and unfortunately, because of Lily's accident, we actually tapped in
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  Speaker 2: with the family a lot more than we probably would
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  Speaker 2: have had that not have occurred.
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  Speaker 1: I need to highlight we were explicitly told by grandparents' siblings, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: don't come home, You'll be fine. We've got this. So
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  Speaker 1: that's why. Because we were going to come home.
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  Speaker 2: However, outside of communicating with the family, I had no WiFi.
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  Speaker 2: I had nothing to do.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't touch our screens.
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  Speaker 2: It was amazing and it really was, It really was,
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  Speaker 2: And it gave me lots of time to just check
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  Speaker 2: in on my internal dialogue and where I'm sitting in
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  Speaker 2: my space at the moment, where the kids are up to,
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  Speaker 2: and what they specifically are missing out on from me personally.
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  Speaker 2: And what was so curious to me was it literally
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  Speaker 2: comes down to one word. And I think that in
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  Speaker 2: most cases it would be the same word for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I think these fast paced lives and we cram in
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  Speaker 2: every minute with meaningful and purposeful stuff most of the time,
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  Speaker 2: and yet what our kids actually want and need is
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  Speaker 2: just time.
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  Speaker 1: That's the word.
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  Speaker 2: That's the word. It's time.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not just the kids, it's us as well.
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  Speaker 1: So you've had a week where you had time, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have to think about meals? Did like that part? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, And you didn't really have to You just
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  Speaker 1: had time, t Im. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: And for a lot of us, because we live these
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  Speaker 2: fast paced, over scheduled lives, when we get time, we
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  Speaker 2: actually don't know what to do with it, Like it
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  Speaker 2: feels so uncomfortable to just be given time to do nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It's really really disconcerting, and so we might pick up
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  Speaker 2: a book, or you know, we'll pick up our phones,
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  Speaker 2: generally speaking, when we've got connectivity. I literally just kept
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  Speaker 2: having conversations with myself out loud. Sometimes you've had.
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  Speaker 1: To do something so important here. I'm writing about this
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  Speaker 1: in my book about teen Boys and how screens have
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  Speaker 1: changed to way our brains work. So there's part of
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  Speaker 1: our brain it's called the default mode network, like where
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  Speaker 1: our brain goes when there's nothing going on, So it
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  Speaker 1: can go into default mode, and that's when it starts
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  Speaker 1: to think about all the stuff that you highlighted, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's relationships or who am I? What's my identity? What's
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  Speaker 1: going on? What do I value? All the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the inner conversation that you get to have with yourself
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  Speaker 1: when there's nothing else to do. That's what builds us
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  Speaker 1: into who we are. And our kids don't get that,
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  Speaker 1: and neither to we because we don't have time getting
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  Speaker 1: away to a place where there's no Wi Fi, there's
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  Speaker 1: no connectivity. Therefore there's no point having a screen, and
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  Speaker 1: where there's very little to do other than enjoy nature.
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  Speaker 1: That gives the default mode network time to kick in
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  Speaker 1: and a week of that is refreshing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the internal dialogue that we have usually in
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  Speaker 2: our fast paced lives is whoever the loudest voice is.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, which is usually something coming at us from
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  Speaker 1: a screen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so as I sat there and I thought
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  Speaker 2: about each of the kids, I was actually really blown
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  Speaker 2: away at how specific the ideas were that came to
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  Speaker 2: me about what each child needed in that space.
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  Speaker 1: With time, Yeah, how our family can be happier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I came home and I've sat with each
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  Speaker 2: of them and I've said, look, I've been really kind
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  Speaker 2: of intentional in my thinking over the last week. I've
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  Speaker 2: wanted to know how I could best serve you, Like,
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  Speaker 2: how do I best connect with you? How do I Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I said, and this is what's come to me.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? And one of them
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  Speaker 2: literally said, I was in class today, Mum, and they
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  Speaker 2: asked me to write a letter to myself about the
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  Speaker 2: things that I wanted to change in my life are
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  Speaker 2: the things that I needed in my life? And she said,
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  Speaker 2: I literally wrote that thing down on my paper, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I was just so grateful. And so
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  Speaker 2: my take home message is whether it's going down to
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  Speaker 2: the local campsite or whatever, or even not even being
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  Speaker 2: able to go away for it overnight, giving yourself a
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  Speaker 2: day to just go out somewhere where you don't have
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  Speaker 2: your phone and you're able to sit in that space
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  Speaker 2: and just think about your world and your life and
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  Speaker 2: the people that are most important to you and ponder,
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  Speaker 2: like literally ponder about what they need and what you
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  Speaker 2: need from those relationships.
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  Speaker 1: We don't get enough of that, and we need more
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  Speaker 1: of it. We really hope that our Easter musings and
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  Speaker 1: insights can help your family to be happier. Make sure
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  Speaker 1: that those kids are doing one thing every week that
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  Speaker 1: could genuinely land them in hospital. Not seeking danger, but
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  Speaker 1: encouraging risk. Take time, take time to think, and.
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  Speaker 2: If you like my wording about it, just let them
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  Speaker 2: have some risky play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, and your mindset around the different activities. It
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  Speaker 1: can shape the quality of the experience that you have.
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