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The Late Debate | 30 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late wander General, Welcome to the Late Debate. Well thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James McPherson
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  Speaker 1: with Caleb Bond and freyer Leach coming up tonight. The
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  Speaker 1: East Safety Commissioner goes on a hiring spree and you
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  Speaker 1: won't believe the salary She's prepared to pay her staff
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  Speaker 1: using your money. Of course, there's still fifty six days
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  Speaker 1: until Christmas, but the Grinch has already struck an Adelaide
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  Speaker 1: Council Demand's residents scaled back a popular Christmas lights display
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  Speaker 1: because well, too many people were enjoying it. And remember
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  Speaker 1: those three wheeled cars that used to get around in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties. Nigel Faraja's Reform Party are calling for
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  Speaker 1: them to be brought back. We'll explain why shortly, but
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  Speaker 1: first we start with breaking news from Victoria, which tonight
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  Speaker 1: has become the first state in Australia to pass legislation
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  Speaker 1: paving the way for a treaty with Indigenous Australians. The
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  Speaker 1: treaty bill cleared the Upper House around eight forty five
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  Speaker 1: pm tonight, prompting cheers from the MPs and tears in
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  Speaker 1: the public gallery. The government has faced criticism, of course,
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  Speaker 1: for pushing ahead with the legislation, despite the fact fifty
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  Speaker 1: four percent of Victorians voted against the National Voice to
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  Speaker 1: Parliament in twenty twenty three. I thought comments from Liberal
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  Speaker 1: MP David Davis, he's the Upper House opposition leader, were interesting.
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  Speaker 1: He condemned the celebrations breaking out in the public gallery
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  Speaker 1: when the treaty legislation was passed. He told the Herald's
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  Speaker 1: son and I quote, the shocking, arrogant behavior in the
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  Speaker 1: chamber was outrageous. This will become a major problem for Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: It will cost Victorians a bomb and blocked the government
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  Speaker 1: and other projects across the state prayer. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: Liberal opposition have vowed to repeal the treaty if they
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  Speaker 1: win government, well.
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  Speaker 2: As they should. And this is the ridiculous thing. Jacinta
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  Speaker 2: Allen knows that the majority of Victorians voted no to
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  Speaker 2: the Voice, She's acknowledged that, but she then claims, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: they voted for us twice, so clearly they actually do
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  Speaker 2: support a treaty. Absolutely not. They definitely don't. And some
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  Speaker 2: of the most concerning aspects of this bill are that
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  Speaker 2: they want to institute truth telling into schools, telling a
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  Speaker 2: true history of Victoria. We all know how slanted and
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  Speaker 2: one sided that's going to be. They're going to have
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  Speaker 2: new conventions around place names. They're also going to establish
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  Speaker 2: an Indigenous Council which will have complete oversight of all
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  Speaker 2: bureaucracies or legislation, and they will have to be consulted
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  Speaker 2: on every piece of legislation and how that may affect
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  Speaker 2: Indigenous people. And so you can just totally see what's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen here. Huge bureaucracy, rewriting of what's left
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  Speaker 2: of our country's history, massive indoctrination in schools even worse
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  Speaker 2: than what's already occurring, and just a continual obsession with
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  Speaker 2: race politics over real results.
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  Speaker 3: Look, you know tomorrow is Halloween, right, so here is
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  Speaker 3: the horror being delivered to us on the eve of Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: It is extraordinary to think what this will now mean,
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  Speaker 3: not only for Victoria but the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 3: Because you can talk about all the things that are
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  Speaker 3: baked into this treaty, changes to the curriculum, what will
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  Speaker 3: basically be a voice to Parliament.
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  Speaker 4: That is now created.
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  Speaker 3: What's it called the Gelung Wall, which we talked about.
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  Speaker 3: They had not actually consulted with the people whose language
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  Speaker 3: they are using to name that thing. The people from
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  Speaker 3: that community were opposed to a voice to Parliament in Victoria,
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  Speaker 3: and they've used their language.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: We can talk about all these things that are baked
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  Speaker 3: into it, but what I'm worried about is what comes next,
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  Speaker 3: Because of course, when you talk about the Ularu statement,
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  Speaker 3: from the heart, it was voice, truth and treaty. Now
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  Speaker 3: in this case they've achieved voice and treaty. Next comes
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  Speaker 3: truth and truth telling, which will be baked into the
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  Speaker 3: SKO curriculum. Presumably means that Indigenous people in Victoria will
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  Speaker 3: tell what their alleged truth is and then they will
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  Speaker 3: start asking for reparations. And when you've signed a treaty
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  Speaker 3: that basically says, yes, you know things went wrong, and
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  Speaker 3: you had sovereignty of this land and you have a
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  Speaker 3: right to this land and we are doing a deal
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  Speaker 3: with you to basically coexist on the land with you,
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  Speaker 3: what argument is there to deny.
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  Speaker 4: Reparations after that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it'll take long before we see cases
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  Speaker 3: being run in the Supreme Court of Victoria with people
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  Speaker 3: arguing that they are owed reparations on the basis of
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  Speaker 3: what may or may not have happened to ancestors because
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  Speaker 3: the government has now formally acknowledged that the land was
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  Speaker 3: taken from Indigenous people. So that happens in Victoria and
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  Speaker 3: then it will happen around the country. And I think
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  Speaker 3: we are heading down an extremely dangerous path.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we've got a little insight into what
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  Speaker 1: some of this might look like with the decision by
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  Speaker 1: Saint Vincent's Hospital the other day to prioritize Indigenous patients
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  Speaker 1: over non Indigenous patients for certain medical issues. So, as
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  Speaker 1: I said, the opposition have said if they win government,
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  Speaker 1: they will repeal the Treaty legislation. So we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: that becomes an election winner for them, but you'd have
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  Speaker 1: to think it will because, as I said, the majority
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  Speaker 1: of Victorians voted against the Voice just two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: completely ignored by the Ellen government. We'll stay in Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: where the City of Melbourne has finally decided to get
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  Speaker 1: tough on crime, or at least that's what the council press
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  Speaker 1: release says. Mayor Nicholas Reese announced today that eleven community
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  Speaker 1: safety officials would be employed to patrol Melbourne's streets. But
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  Speaker 1: they won't just be patrolling, they'll be equipped with handcuffs
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  Speaker 1: and empowered to make citizens arrests.
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  Speaker 5: They have the power to enforce local laws. This covers
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  Speaker 5: things like anti social behavior, aggressive behavior, consumption of alcohol
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  Speaker 5: or drugs in a public place. They can give directions,
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  Speaker 5: they can make citizens arrest We will do what is
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  Speaker 5: needed to make Melbourne safe and welcoming for everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's give some credit to the Melbourne mayor for
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  Speaker 1: at least trying something to reduce crime. I suppose eleven
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  Speaker 1: community safety officers are better than forty machete amnesty bins.
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  Speaker 1: But eleven officers in a city of five point five
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  Speaker 1: million people. If you're lucky enough to get mugged near
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  Speaker 1: a community safety officer, let us know how it goes.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is au frail. These are police. They're glorified
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  Speaker 1: parking inspectors, aren't they.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you give Nick Reees the benefit of the
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  Speaker 2: down and you don't take the greater Melbourne numbers, you
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  Speaker 2: just take how many residents are there in the city
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  Speaker 2: of Melbourne itself. It's about one safety officer for seventeen
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  Speaker 2: thousand residents. So how on earth they are going to
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  Speaker 2: make any difference is beyond me. Will they be carrying
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  Speaker 2: weapons I don't think so. And they can make citizens arrest.
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  Speaker 2: So basically, if they happen to be walking past the
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  Speaker 2: time that you get stabbed by a drugged up lunatic,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe they can help detain them, but with what
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  Speaker 2: And then if they get handed over to the police
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  Speaker 2: and then go through the court system, chances are they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be let out on bail to go reoffend. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: It's an admirable effort. Nick Reese clearly knows that the
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  Speaker 2: political climate for labor in Victoria because of the crime
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  Speaker 2: crisis is just toxic. People have had enough, so at
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  Speaker 2: least he's trying to do something. But the reality is
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  Speaker 2: that without an overhaul of the bail system and a
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  Speaker 2: serious zero tolerance approach, none of this is going to
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  Speaker 2: make any difference.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Sarmon, Yes, it is a state government problem crime,
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  Speaker 3: and we know the issues they've had with the police
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  Speaker 3: force and the justice system and whatever. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: Nick Reece, as the Lord mayor, is looking at it
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  Speaker 3: and saying, well, I'm doing something that's within my power
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  Speaker 3: at least, because you know, he has very little control
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  Speaker 3: over things like the police force, etc. So he is
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  Speaker 3: at least doing something to say, we've got a presence
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  Speaker 3: on the street.
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  Speaker 4: They're throwing money at it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is not something that the Melbourne City
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  Speaker 3: Council should have to throw money at. And what he's
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  Speaker 3: basically saying is if the state government's not going to
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  Speaker 3: do anything, we will at least do something. And my
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  Speaker 3: view is that security officers ought to be enabled to
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  Speaker 3: have things like tasers on their person so that people
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  Speaker 3: like this could have a taser and deploy it in
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  Speaker 3: the case where it is needed, because yes, they are
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  Speaker 3: basically just walking around like any other security guard in
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  Speaker 3: any other shopping center. But at least it is something
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  Speaker 3: I can't but just on.
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  Speaker 1: That, would you want the security guard at your local
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  Speaker 1: shopping center to have a taser?
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  Speaker 4: They need proper training.
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  Speaker 3: You don't just hand any old Tom Dick and Harry
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  Speaker 3: a taser. But I do think that they should have something.
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  Speaker 4: Available to them.
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  Speaker 3: I go back to the example of the Bondai stabbing.
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  Speaker 3: Right that guy was going mad in a shopping center
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  Speaker 3: for ages before.
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  Speaker 4: I forget exactly.
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  Speaker 3: How long it was, But you're waiting on the cops
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  Speaker 3: to show up to do something about that. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 3: you're killing people. If you have a security guard who
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  Speaker 3: is there that has some kind of weapon, not lethal force,
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  Speaker 3: but some kind of weapon that they can use to
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  Speaker 3: disarm or stop someone before things get worse.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's great.
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  Speaker 3: They should have something available to them to do something,
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  Speaker 3: because otherwise you are relying purely on the police force,
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  Speaker 3: and we know that the police can't get there in time,
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  Speaker 3: particularly in.
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  Speaker 4: Victoria, they have a shortage of belief.
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  Speaker 1: I like you. I've been to plenty of football and
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  Speaker 1: cricket games at various stadiums around the country. Like no
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  Speaker 1: offense to security guards who are watching. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've met a few security guards. I would not want
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  Speaker 1: them to have a taser because I reckon they'd be
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  Speaker 1: very quick to use it in my experience.
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  Speaker 3: Well maybe something. Then they should be struck off and
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  Speaker 3: never allowed to work here.
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  Speaker 2: And what's that about it?
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  Speaker 1: What about the person who gets tasered?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the person who gets tasered'll soot.
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  Speaker 1: Weapons for police and have more police. And if Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: Reach really wants to address crime in Melbourne, is he
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  Speaker 1: better off spending two million dollars on eleven security officials
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  Speaker 1: or should he start publicly slamming the Victorian Labor government
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  Speaker 1: and calling them out. I believe that would have far
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  Speaker 1: more effect than this tokenistic effort.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Bureaucrats in high Viz Ben.
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  Speaker 2: Carrol, the Deputy Leader, has said we need a zero
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  Speaker 2: tolerance approach. Of course, justinto Allen did not handle that
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  Speaker 2: very well. I'm sure there are massive divisions within the
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  Speaker 2: Victorian Labor Party between Labor Left, who has presided over
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  Speaker 2: these dismal crime figures, and Labor Right, who does seem
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  Speaker 2: to have a bit more of a brain cell firing.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, and I mean, you know, the status of the
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne City Council put out a report recently saying that
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  Speaker 3: three in five residents in the council do not feel
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  Speaker 3: safe at night walking around the city and even twenty
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  Speaker 3: three percent of people during the day don't feel safe
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  Speaker 3: walking around Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: They have serious troubles.
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  Speaker 3: While we're talking about the Allen government, though they love
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  Speaker 3: to spend money, I mean you've got Nick Ree spending
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  Speaker 3: two million dollars on his community safety officers.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, just imagine what.
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  Speaker 3: You could do with two hundred million dollars if say
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  Speaker 3: you invested it in com community safety offices or or
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  Speaker 3: the Justice system.
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  Speaker 4: Or police or something.
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  Speaker 3: But instead the Allen government is spending it on travel management. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they've given out a contract with around two hundred million.
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  Speaker 4: Dollars as is the estimate.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know the exact amount, but that's the tender
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  Speaker 3: they put out for a travel management services. So this
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  Speaker 3: is when MPs and public servants and whatever have to
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  Speaker 3: travel around the country or overseas, they call up this
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  Speaker 3: mob and say get me a plane, and get me
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  Speaker 3: a car, and get me a hotel room, et cetera,
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  Speaker 3: which apparently saves the money. But it's two hundred million
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  Speaker 3: dollars over four years, which means they are giving away
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  Speaker 3: in this contract a million dollars a week for the
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  Speaker 3: management of the travel of Victorian MPs and the public service.
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  Speaker 3: This is a state that is heading towards one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and ninety four billion dollars of debt by the twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight twenty nine financial year, and the previous contract,
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  Speaker 3: which lasted about ten years, was worth one hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are they paying a million dollars a week?
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  Speaker 3: What sort of travel are Victorian public servants doing? Did
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  Speaker 3: they need to pay a company to the tune of
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  Speaker 3: a million dollars a week to manage it for.
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  Speaker 1: It just shows you the state of Victoria that the
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  Speaker 1: public servants are that desperate to get out of the
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  Speaker 1: state that they'll spend this much money on travel. If
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  Speaker 1: you're running a business and your business is going broke,
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  Speaker 1: what's the first thing you cut? You cut staff travel,
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  Speaker 1: you cut accommodation in hotels. And isn't the des center
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  Speaker 1: Allen government the one that's trumpeting work from home as
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  Speaker 1: their great reform while at the same time spending this
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  Speaker 1: much money on public service travel. The thing about the
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  Speaker 1: decenter Ellen government is just when you think they can't
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  Speaker 1: surprise you anymore, they you go and do something like
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  Speaker 1: this and you're shocked all over again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you ask for what exactly is this travel? Well,
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  Speaker 2: a great example of I'm sure what's going on across
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  Speaker 2: the government was when the Treasurer Jacqueline Simes went for
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  Speaker 2: a week long trip in New York, costing the taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: seventy thousand dollars. And why did you go there? She
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  Speaker 2: might ask? Well, to beg credit rating agencies not to
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  Speaker 2: down grade Victoria. Again. That just sums up what is
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  Speaker 2: going on in this state. Spend seventy grand of taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: money to fly to the US to beg ratings agencies
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  Speaker 2: not to give you an even worse credit rating. Victoria
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  Speaker 2: has become a joe.
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  Speaker 3: And also the people who make the decisions, even though
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  Speaker 3: they're international companies, the people who make those decisions about
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  Speaker 3: credit ratings.
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  Speaker 4: Are here in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: So she was over in the US talking to executives
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  Speaker 3: who don't actually make the decision about the Victorian grititude.
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  Speaker 1: Do you reckon? She spent the seventy grand, you know,
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  Speaker 1: flying business first class, maybe staying in expensive hotels to
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  Speaker 1: portray the fact that, see, Victoria's doing great. She couldn't
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  Speaker 1: stay in the ibis or something like that, because that
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  Speaker 1: would be proof that things are tough. That's a very
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  Speaker 1: good strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Frayer Well, speaking of more wasted government money, the E
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  Speaker 2: Safety Karen or the E Safety Commissioner as she is
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  Speaker 2: formally known, is also wasting a ton of money. Since
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, they have spent forty million dollars on labor
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  Speaker 2: higher contractors, and their budget has quadrupled as an office
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  Speaker 2: from ten million dollars to forty million. Now a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this money is going to excessively high salaries for
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  Speaker 2: these contractors. Here are a few examples, so if anyone's
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  Speaker 2: looking to change jobs, here are some good ones to
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  Speaker 2: apply for. Senior executive assistant two hundred and seventy thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars per annum. Senior data analyst three hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: nine K see cyber security advisor three hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: eight K. Senior project manager two hundred and fourteen for
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  Speaker 2: six months. Social Media manager one hundred and fifty seven
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars for just nine months of work. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm here, guys, I'll take that job, especially the social
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  Speaker 2: media one. How hard is it stick an iPhone up?
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  Speaker 2: Say go? Like literally that is all that's involved. But
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  Speaker 2: as senior executive assistant two hundred and seventy thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these numbers are crazy. And the E Safety
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner defends some of these by saying, oh, well, about
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  Speaker 2: thirty percent of the cost may go to recruitment services.
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  Speaker 2: Have you not heard of LinkedIn?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What is going on?
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  Speaker 3: That is that one hundred and fifty seve I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I can't speak for other positions. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: they're going rights are, but one, I can speak to
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  Speaker 3: his social media producer one hundred and fifty seven.
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  Speaker 4: K nine months.
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  Speaker 3: So you get one hundred and fifty seven K for
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  Speaker 3: nine months have putting together some tiktoks and some Instagram
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  Speaker 3: posts and maybe some gear on Facebook or something. In
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  Speaker 3: Soal Australia, I don't know about the rest of the stakes,
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  Speaker 3: but in Essa, if you are a ministerial media advisor,
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  Speaker 3: you get in the order of low to mid one hundreds,
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  Speaker 3: depending on your seniority. And these are people, I know,
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  Speaker 3: many of them, who slog their guts out working for
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  Speaker 3: government ministers.
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  Speaker 4: They're up at five point thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Every morning and they finish work at ten pm every night,
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  Speaker 3: and they're getting one hundred and twenty one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: forty K year if they're lucky. But the E Safety
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  Speaker 3: Commissioner will give someone who posts stuff on social media
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars for nine months work.
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  Speaker 1: This is insane. Well, Senator Charlotte Walker, she's paid what
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty grand a year to be a
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  Speaker 1: social media producer, so you know others are doing even better.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got to love that E safety can be
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  Speaker 1: I mean not only do they silence your thoughts, they
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  Speaker 1: steal your money all the same time. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: wonder if many government departments like this one, particularly this one, disappeared,
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  Speaker 1: do you think anyone would actually even notice. When the
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  Speaker 1: e Safety Commission was set up in twenty fifteen, their
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  Speaker 1: budget was I think ten million dollars. Now it's forty
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  Speaker 1: one million dollars a decade later. And that's the way
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  Speaker 1: these bureaucracies go, is that they're set up with a
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  Speaker 1: small budget to do a small amount of work. And
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  Speaker 1: now we have this bureaucracy that's worth four times the
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  Speaker 1: budget only in ten years and is making all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of decisions that most Australians would not agree with.
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  Speaker 3: But the Safety Commission has morphed into something completely different
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  Speaker 3: to what it starts exactly. I mean, I remember when
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  Speaker 3: it started and Julian Grant came along. I like the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: cut of her jib. She was talking about what it
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  Speaker 3: cracked down on child pornography, and all I thought, this
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: is fantastic. She's gong ho about all the right things.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And then it sort of became controlling the Internet. It
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: wasn't about taking criminality off the internet. It became about
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: controlling the Internet. And then of course you had the
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: federal government, the Albanezi Gaverment come up with all this
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: misinformation disinformation stuff and then banning kids from social media,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: which has only empowered her further. So she's had a
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: good argument to go to the government and get higher
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: budgets to achieve the ends that the government wants to achieve.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that was the whole point of
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the Safety Commission when it was set up.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: No, well it wasn't at all. But that's the lesson here, right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: If you establish these bureaucracies and if you give them money,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: they will just grow and grow and they will find
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: work to spend the money that they've been allocated, because
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: now that they have that money, they have to justify
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: their existence. She's spending around five million dollars a year
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: on legal fees launching cases against you know, the video
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: of Bishop Murray Murray being stabbed and issue in global
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: takedown orders, stuff that has no bearing on the safety
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: or the well being of Australians, frankly, and now it
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: really has morphed into a political office that is actually
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: about cracking down on freedom of speech.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a statistic that will excite some
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of you and frighten others. Fifty two days until Christmas
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: all you've got left, And of course a big part
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of fifty one days before I start my Christmas gift shopping.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But a big part of Christmas incourse is the Christmas
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: lights displays. Remember when our kids were little, we'd always
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: take them to see the Christmas lights that people would
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: put up in their front yards. There's a brilliant display
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: on every year in Adelaide Ninth Avenue in Saint Peter's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: seventy four residents in Ninth Avenue participate every year. Last
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: last Christmas Eve, they had three thousand people turn up
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in this street to check out all the lights. But council,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: after receiving a couple of complaints, are not happy and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: have told residents that they want them to turn the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: lights off early in the evening and to scale the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: whole thing back. Now, what I find curious about these
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: council grinches, Caleb, is they produced a seventy page report
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: that cost them twelve and a half thousand dollars to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: come up with recommendation that residents should turn the lights
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: down lower earlier and that food trucks should not be
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: permitted to set up shop on the streets. It sounds
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to me like they produced this report to kind of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: assuage their conscience by being grinches at Christmas. The other
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: thing they did was they recommended that residents of this
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: street form a corporation to continue doing this. Councils just
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: continually find ways of overstepping their remit and making people's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: lives miserable. Collect the rubbish, fill the potholes, mow the lawns,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: stop cracking down on Christmas. You can run a pro
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Palestine rally every weekend of the year and no one
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: will say squat. But you have a few Christmas lights
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to celebrate Christmas, and all of a sudden, counselors say, no,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it's a problem. Too much traffic.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: And you know what.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: If you've got to get traffic management in and you've
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: got to look after the fact that you've got these
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: food trucks or whatever rocking up, because of course people
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: are going there and they might want to have a
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: coffee or you know, ice scream or something fair enough
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: while they're looking at the Christmas sights. I as a ratepayer,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind my council spending some money on that,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: because all these things that councils do that are just
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: complete wastes of money. Having a bit of cheer in
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: the community and doing something nice for the community I
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: think is actually very much within the council's remit. You know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: if they've got to spend twenty thirty forty grand to
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: get some lollipop people and traffic management or whatever so
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that you can have an attraction in your council, that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: to me sounds like good value for money. It's good
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: for the local community. It's good for local businesses.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: You know, if people.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Will drive all over town to go and look at
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: great Christmas lights displays and the day, if they decide
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: to pop into a local business on the way, will
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that someone who otherwise wouldn't have gone there. You're actually
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: attracting something to your council. So I reckon this is
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: core council business to be spending money on things like
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this because it's good for the community.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And a huge problem in our society at the moment
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is the decline in volunteerism. People don't take initiative and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: do things off their own back anymore. Everyone's waiting for
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the government. They're waiting for the council funded life display. Well, no,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to come from the council. It's great.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It's actually even better that it's coming from locals who
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: care about their community want to have a nice festive season.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Christmas is pretty much the one holiday we have as
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a country anymore that everyone can kind of unite behind.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So I think it's wonderful, But more council madness. Over
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in the UK, the Council of South Cambridgeshire has moved
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to a four day work week. Yes, it is a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Lib Dem run council. They're one of the lefty parties
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: over in the UK. They move to a four day
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: work week and residents are not happy about it. Yet
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the council says they're going to make it permanent. They've
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: seen in thirteen of their departments, nine of them have
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: experienced a decline in ratings. And this is what is
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: so strange. Apparently these bureaucrats are going to be doing
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the same amount of work, getting paid the exact same
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: amount of money, but just doing it in four days
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: instead of five days. But that begs the question, if
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you can do it in four days, why don't you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just do an extra day of work, or why don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you just be productive in the time you're already paid for.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And if you're going to work less hours, then why
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: are you still getting paid as if you're working five
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: days a week. And hilariously, the council counts this as
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a major success because they say, well, staff turnovers actually
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: down forty one percent. No wonder. I would love to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: work four days and get paid for five, but that's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: just not how it works.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Wasn't just staff turnover was down, but applications for jobs
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with council were up by one hundred and twenty three percent,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: so a very popular policy. Not for ratepayers. They reckon
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: their services have diminished since this was undertaken, But people
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: working at council absolutely love it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: And they reckon they've saved four hundred thousand quid in
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: the process as well, probably because they're doing less. I mean,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you do save money if you provide less service, fewer services.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: The thirty six percent of residents said they supported the idea.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I just want to know. I mean, we're going to
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: have to rewrite all the songs now, aren't we.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: None thing, It's gonna be a long time.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: None thing. It's gonna be a long time.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Sorry, it was meant to be Elton John when he
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: sings you know, that's just my job five days a week.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I was gonna make a joke about what he's gonna
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: have to do it four days, but never mind. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: if we if we get to this point now where
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you know, it'll start with this council of South Ambridgeshire
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: doing four days a week, then it'll all the other
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: councils around the UK start doing it, and then all
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the corporations around the ukal start doing it, and then
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: it'll spread across the rest of the world like this,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: if someone's got to do it first, and then everyone
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: else will follow.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: And if this is where we land.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Is like people have talked about it before, as you'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: do four days a week instead of five, but you'll
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: do the same hours. It's just that you'll do those
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: hours over four days instead of five, so you work
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: longer days. And if you get the same amount of
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: work done in that, I don't see what the issue
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: is with that, because you're still getting paid for exactly
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the same amount of work. But if you're saying you
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: can do the same amount of work in four days
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: minus the fifth day. So you're cutting eight hours out
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: of the week and you're getting exactly the same results.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Surely they should be cutting their salaries by a fifth
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: as well, because what were they doing in all the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: other day? It was just eight unproductive hours a week.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Is that what we're saying?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And I reckon they'd find rate pads will be quite
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: supportive of reduced wages in return for a shorter week.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I just love the fact that this council kept conducting
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: studies of residents until they found a statistical case for
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the four day week that they could present and it
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: was that whole we asked, you answered and we know better.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a bit like we talked about the public
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: consultat christ Fins yes night, where he wants to know
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: what you think about more park golf course being cut
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: in half, but it doesn't matter because he's already made
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: his mind up. Another interesting little one out of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: UK reform has said they should bring back invalid carriages.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Now this has all come up because over in the
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: UK they actually give cars to people who are on
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: a disability pension and they've done this for a very
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: long time, and there used to be these three wheeled
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: one seat vehicles that they would hand out called endlid carriages.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: They were a cheap, inexpensive thing that were built specifically
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: for the NH to give to disabled people to drive,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: so they had a car to get around in. But
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: it turns out now because they don't build these things anymore,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that people are being given Merks and they're being given BMW's,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and they're being given volks wagons and all sorts of
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: luxury cars. So Reforms is will back that. I mean
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: that's a bit much, isn't it. We should be giving
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: them something a little more austere. And so they have
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: suggested bringing back the invalid carriage.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I'll have a three wheeled vehicle.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, remember there light Robin in Mister Bean?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: How good I love mister Bean? Is mister Bean's the best?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But of course, the part of the problem now is
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: that they're giving them out to people with mental health
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: complaints as well. So you know, you got some mental
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: health problem and the government says you can have a Mercedes.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, thank you very much.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Why shouldn't they bring these things back?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Reform Party really want to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: bring these things back. I suspect they may be doing
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a Lydia thorpe there. They're using this as a metaphor, Caleb.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: What they really mean is maybe we should do, as
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you said, something a little more austere and rather than
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: rather than give a merchant, give out a Mazda or
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: at least a British made vehicle if they still exist.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Bolish made vehicles they don't exist, but all the ones
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: that they did make were rubbish.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Well that's that was going to be my question. I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: not sure what the economics of this would be, because
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: if you have to set up a whole supply chain
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to custom make British cars for the NHS as three
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: wheelers compliance of all the safety cents, I have a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: feeling that very quickly that would be more expensive than
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: just giving it run a Mercedes.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: It's nation building, it's instead of instead of bloody giving
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: those crowded subsidies. Let's make vehicles in the United Kingdom
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: little three wheelers.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Why not they should do what Ethiopia did just they
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just should have louders. Remember larders that were from Russia
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: so bad they gave them more to Ethiopia as loud
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: as everywhere in Ethiopia. Just give them to the NHS
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in the UK, they'll gladly receive them.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: They got any rovers over there as well.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, jesz, they made some terrible vehicles Leyland. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: mean they were on strike when they.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Weren't making guards, which was about fifty percent of the time.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: For goodness, all right, shall we talk about the US Democrats.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I think we should, because as crazy as politics is
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: here in Australia and in the UK, nothing comes close
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to the US Democrats. I mean, we're spoilt for choice,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: but let's just run through a couple of Democrats making ludicrous,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: ridiculous statements. And I'm not sure whether I'm more amazed
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: at the statements or the people actually believe some of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Will start with the Chicago mayor, Brandon Johnson. Look,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just let you tell I'll let him rather tell
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you what Trump's been doing to babies in America.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: One is going to convince me what the Trump administration
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: is doing against black people and brown people can ever
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: be justified. It is racist when you have black babies
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: being thrown in the back of vans, zip tied in
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: the middle of the night, and mass men sticking guns
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: in the faces of black and brown people. That is nasty,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: as vicious as racist.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Black babies being zip tied and thrown into the back
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of vans in the middle of the night. Does anyone
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: believe that's true?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Come on, I think zip what if he can provide,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: If he can provide a shred of evidence for it,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I'll take it. But you know, in that vein, because
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: of course you can't provide any humans. I heard that
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden's been going around gagging people in the middle
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: of the night and putting, you know, a gaffer tape
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: over their mouths, and beating them up and breaking into
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: their houses. I've got just as much evidence for that
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: as he's for the idea that they're going around putting
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: zip ties around black kid's head.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It's so wild. And of course he forgets to mention
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that ICE is actually there to crack down
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: on illegal immigration. Yes, most of the people ICE is deporting,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: which are probably brown or black, but that's probably because
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that's what most illegal migrants crossing the border tend to be.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And that's just the reality. So just completely bizarre. But
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it does not stop there. Another Democrat, Rep. Delia Ramirez
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: kept running on this theme of children, and this time
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the Republicans are responsible for starving children.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Republicans control the House, they control the Cenate. Some would
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: argue they're controlling the Supreme Court most days, and they
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: control the White House. This government shutdown is all theirs.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The starving children is going to be under them. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: why do you plead with children's lives?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Quoting scripture.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: At the very same time, the Left always resorts to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: starving children. It's the same in Ghaza, it's the same
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: in the government shutdown. Starving children. Where are They're not there?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And she does bring up the government shut down, but
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: let's do a little recap on why the American government
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: is shut down, and that's because the Democrats won't approve
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: any of the spending bills. So it's not actually the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Republican's fault, it's the Democrats fault. And in any case,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: even during a shutdown, life essential services are still running.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: It is only the non essential government employees that are
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: sent home and those services are stop. But it's another
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: good lesson in the fact that most government employees actually
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: do nothing because they've all been off work for a month,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and the US is still standing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I know, and it's you know, they say, oh, well,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: it's their fault. It won't change simply because the Republicans
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: won't just roll over and do everything that they say
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: they want to do. And politics is about negotiation. You know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you don't just get what you want all the time.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And both sides look to be working on that. But
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: moving on to a segment we like to call moaning.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Michelle. Here is missus Obama.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: The former first complaining about how life hard is as
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a black woman today.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: It's her hair.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: The way our hair naturally grows out of our head.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: It's beautiful, but if we struggle to make it look
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: like the standard. That means we are spending thousands of
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: hours and lots of money straightening out what is naturally
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: curly hair, right, and that takes time out of your life.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: God, life must be hard as a first lady. You
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: know that hair straightening and all these things.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: You have to I mean, leave your.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Hair you want. I don't care whether you're striking your
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: hair or you leave it curly or whatever.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: It's naturally curly.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Have you care curly?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: It's not just African American women who struggle with this
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: every morning. Straightening my hair.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Someone made the joke when Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: broke you went to Keith Urban recently.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I did, and I quite enjoyed the I went a
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: little long, but it was good.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: But someone did you a bit like his hair ut.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: But someone made the joke who's going to get the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: hair straighteners in that divorce settlement?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. Well over back here in Australia
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: at Stradbroke Island, they're looking for ways to increase revenue.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Sand mining, which was a very lucrative operation on the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: island stopped in twenty nineteen and they need to improve
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: things a little so they're looking at tourism and expanding
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that industry. But one idea that was put forward at
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Indigenous Tourism Forum was a pledge that visitors could
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sign and make a voluntary donation and in exchange they
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: could get a discount on items on the island, which
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: you know, on first glance, you're like, okay, well what
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: would the pledge be just to say I'm a good
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: citizen and I'm not going to trash the place. That
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: seems pretty reasonable, But then you start to dig into
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it a little more and It really doesn't make a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: lot of sense. Who are you pledging to the spirits
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: of the island, the overlords, and why do you then
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: get a discount if you make the pledge, and who's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: applying that. It's just a very strange idea.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of things on that you're not just
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: pledging to be a good citizen, but part of the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: pledge that's proposed is that you will respect Aboriginal culture.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So could you imagine arriving on Stradbroke Island and saying, no,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not signing the pledge. I mean, you'd be decried
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: as a racist. And if you start with giving discounts
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: on the island to people who signed the pledge, it's
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a very small step from giving discounts to then charging
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: people to come onto the island, but maybe a little
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: less if you sign the pledge. It's a terrible idea.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: And if you're trying to attract tourists, this is just
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: another way of repelling them and dividing people.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And what sort of rules do you start putting on,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you know, respecting Aboriginal culture. Do you think you can't
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: go to certain places like you know, they close off
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Mount Warning and you can't climb ularoo anymore. Like it
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: sounds like the beginning of trying to restrict what you
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: can do with what he's puppets.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: including Donald Trump's historic meeting with Jijingping, and the new
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: South Wales court system thrown into chaos as prison officers
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: go on strike. All of that and more in just
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a moment. Welcome back to the program. Time to look
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  Speaker 1: at what's making news tomorrow, so you hear it here first.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: And of course the big story tomorrow, Freyer, is the
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  Speaker 1: meeting between Trump and Jijingping.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right. The headline on the front page of the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Australian is rare win leaders use superpowers for good. Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump has hailed an amazing meeting with Jijingping, with the
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: US President claiming he had secured a trade deal that
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: would end Beijing's chokol on rare Earth's in return for
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a ten percent cut on America's tariffs on Chinese goods.
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  Speaker 2: Resident also struck a positive note calling for the two
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  Speaker 2: superpowers to be partners and friends. During their one hundred
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: minute long encounter on the sidelines of an APEC meeting
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  Speaker 2: in South Korea. Now, all good things coming out from
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that meeting, so far from what we can gain from
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Trump's commentary, But there were some rather funny moments on
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the way back on Air Force one. Here is Trump
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  Speaker 2: talking about how the meeting went overall.
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  Speaker 4: I guess on the scale of from zero to ten,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: with ten being the best. I would say the meeting
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  Speaker 4: was at twelve.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: High praise indeed, And then later on, still at Air
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Force one, it was a bit of a bumpy ride
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: on the way back.
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  Speaker 4: He's a rough wintern Asia. I mus say, this is
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: a rough flight. We're gonna waited an hour. Maybe, what
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: a rough ride this is?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: That's this The interviews are tough enough without you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: without your life being threatened.
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  Speaker 2: Me. He has the look of someone who's pretty proud
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: of how those meetings went and how the conference was.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: So James, I think this is a positive development.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think if you've had a meeting that rated
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: twelve out of ten, you'd say it was reasonably positive.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I love Trump's typically understated way. What's interesting is it
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was a really great meeting. But this meeting came just
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: after Trump announced that the US would recommence nuclear weapons
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: testing at least at the level that China and Russia
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: are testing their weapons, which I actually think is a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: good thing. Why would the West allow themselves to be
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: left behind? But I think everyone wanted this meeting to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: go well. And let's hope that Trump is right, that
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: he and Jijingping will build a relationship. I note that
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: they have agreed Trump will visit Beijing and then the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: year after Ji will visit the US, So that's a positive.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, look, it's I think the nuclear
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: announcement at the same time as this meeting is part
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: of the push and pull of what noneral Trump is doing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: You're saying, we're.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Willing to deal with you economically, but you know that
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that we're not going to take it up
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: to you if we have to. And you just cannot
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: argue with the results that Donald Trump is achieving.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's having an.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Absolute blind at the moment on the back of the
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: peace deal in the Middle East, the rare Earth's Deal
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: with Australia, economic deal with China, and it reflects in
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the numbers. I mean GDP growth in the US in
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: the June quarter was three point eight percent. In Australia
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: it was er point six percent. So the US economy
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: is absolutely motoring.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And remember all the who are about taraffs, it will
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: destroy the country. Well, none of that has actually happened,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and in fact, the US is getting even more favorable
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: trade relations.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Now let's go to the front page of the Daily Telegraph.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: The headline reads jailhouse rot guards revolt and send justice
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: system into meltdown. Furious prison guards are expected to stage
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a masiki today, that is Thursday, in protest at a
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: lenient sentence given to a prisoner who left guards with
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: sickening facial injuries. Strikes yesterday, that is today sent the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: prison and justice systems into meltdown. So a prisoner at
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Cessnock Correctional Center assaulted four prison guards, injuring them quite badly.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Photographs of their injuries feature on tomorrow's front page. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: this prisoner was given a three year sentence to be
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: served in the community. In other words, he wasn't given
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: any additional jail time for this attack, and so prison
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: guards are arguing that effectively the magistrate has sent the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: message that prison guards are a fair game and so
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: they're walking off the job, and I can't say I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: really blame them. The problem today was there were court
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: cases where juries were sitting waiting to have the court
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: cases begin, and then they were unable to begin because
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: there was no one to transport prisoners from jails to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the courts. So it could be could be interesting tomorrow,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: we'll show you some vision of this attack that occurred
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: at Cess Not Correctional Center. You can see the prison
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: guard there and the prisoner just goes and starts assaulting him.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: More prison guards arrive and he continues to assault them.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It goes for a number of minutes before finally you
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: can see there's about a dozen prison guards. You have
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to watch for quite some time before they eventually subdue him.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: But that's what the strike is all about.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: And fair enough. Sorry.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Often I get on board with the industrial action for them,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: but I think in this case they're entirely justified, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the courts, the justice system can't really complain that their
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: processes have been held up because they went on strike
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: when it is the justice system that created this problem
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: in the first place.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: What if all victorians went on strike.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Well over the justice system, Well nothing has changed. If
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: victorians went on strike to be perfect. But you know,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: if that is the standard that he you are in
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: jail because you've already committed a crime, and then you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: commit a further, further crime while you're undergoing the punishment
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: for the previous crime, and we say no, you'll get
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: a community corrections order.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Not on No, It's just a disgrace. And the problem
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: is what message does that send other offenders inside jail
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: as well? It says that you can do whatever you want,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: you can assault officers and you'll get served with a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: community service period. I mean, that's just ridiculous.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front of the Townsville bulletin tomorrow
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: where it says cop makes disciplined over bungle. A group
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: of police officers who didn't conduct a drink driving test
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: on a colleague have been disciplined after their mismanagement led
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: to the cops charges being dropped. Sergeant David John Lynch,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: fifty six, was charged with driving under the influence of liquor, speeding,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and dangerous operation of the vehicle while adversely affected by
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: an intoxicating substance after an incident in Townsville in twenty
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: twenty three, but because.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: They didn't breath test him.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: They don't actually have the records to say here it is,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: so the charges get dropped.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is just so unfair.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: There is in one other circumstance, would you be able
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: to get out of a breath test? I mean a
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: breath test is basically routine for anyone who gets pulled
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: over these days, they pull you over, they give you
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: a breath test. But in this case they saw a
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: fellow mate and they said no, no, we're not going to
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: That.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: You should not be in the public service, the police service.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: If that's how your behave, you.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Don't always get a breath test. Wasn't there a Victorian
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: premier who didn't get a breath test?
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: We won't go Yeah, let's look at another story. In
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: the front of the arms with bullets and tomorrow heartless
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Krim's target amputee What there listener?
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: This one?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: A couple who stole an amputees vehicle during a brazen
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: car park attack also took off with both of his
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: prosthetic legs after injuring his support worker. Palm Island woman
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Sandra June Walsh twenty eight, pleaded guilty to unlawfully entering
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: a vehicle with intent to commit an indobtable of fence
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: using actual violence in company and the unlawful use of
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a motivehicle. Okay, you're going to steal a car. It's
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: pretty bad, but you're going to steal a car.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: We can claim insurance or whatever. Police are in the car.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Why do you have to take a poor amputees legs away?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Like that's just next level.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You steal the car, that's one thing, but taking someone's
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: legs you should be in jail for life for that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: I reckon.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think they realized the gentleman's legs were in
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the vehicle when they stole it, because they drove it
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: from Ipswich that's where the theft occurred to Townsville, so
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that's a fair distance and the legs were thrown out
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of the window and found on the side of the road.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So so bad.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, the the amputee was in a wheelchair
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: when this theft occurred, so that's kind of how it
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: all happened.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: But then he was legless after this, so that's no
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: good for him.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Is it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's just disgusting. I mean, who are these people? More
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Shenanigans in the Gold Coast bulletin tomorrow just quickly. Plasterer's
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: car park goes wrong. A plaster's drunken prank on his
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: best friend has landed him in court after he jumped
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: onto his mate's highlunks, peede on it and pretended to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: defecate on the vehicle. Jo Sebastian Dulan, twenty, pleaded guilty
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in the Southport Magistrate's Course on Tuesday to one count
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: of willful damage. Magistrate Narrator Wilson sentenced the young plaster
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: on the basis the incident was a prank that had
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: gone horribly wrong. What did How was it going to
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: go right? You're definitely you're pretending to defecate on his car.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: The reason it ended up in court was not his
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: best mate. It was his best mate's dad. He said, right,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: this kid needs a lesson.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I reckon, he's in a wee spot of traveler.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Ah, I think you might be right. When do you
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: go to a break? When we come back there, you've
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: got to stick around because we're going to talk about
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a US police officer who gave evidence in court via
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: video link. But he was see a very important part
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: of this uniform will show you how that went down
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in just a moment. Okay, welcome back, and almighty brawl
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  Speaker 1: has broken out on the internet frayer over wedding etiquette.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Tell us about it.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is very divisive this topic. Basically, a photographer
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: has taken to social media complaining about the fact that
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: she was not given a meal by the couple that
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: she was doing the wedding photography for. She said, how
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: dare they do this? The etiquette is you feed your vendors.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And some people said, no, you're just being entitled. No
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: other job feeds people while they're on the job. But
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I did get married less than a
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: year ago, and the etiquette definitely is that you do
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: feed the people who are working on the weddings.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Have you seen how much these photographers charge? Oh yeah,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I know I'd be able to afford their own meal
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: on the way home or whatever.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: But that's just the wedding industry here. It's a wedding
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and they market up fifty percent.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I've granted these people, right, So I mean, surely you
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: can pay your own way if that's if the meal
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: is to be included, it should be written in the
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: contract or whatever the deal that you do I reckon,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I reckon. You're will within your rights if it's not
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: written down on a piece of paper somewhere that's been
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: signed to say no, you can get your own.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Food of the weight staff. At the reception.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: We're going to sit down and have a meal as well,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: so everyone everyone gets a free meal.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: All right. There was a court case on in Detroit
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and Officer Matthew Jackson was required to give evidence via
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: video link. I can just imagine him preparing for this
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: case thinking, Okay, I need to look the part. I've
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: got my police shirt, I've got my police badgers. Is
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: there anything I'm missing have a look.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Of from Jackson?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Good morning to you.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Can you put your appearance on the record, please yes?
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: After Jackson bathroom at thirty nine nineteen, I don't talk
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: free think.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: You got some bands.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: In the.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: No third.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Jackson?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just like the way he owned it. If
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you got some pants on, no, sir, it was just
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you just owned it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: At least he owned it. Remember there was a journalist
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago got caught on a zoom
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: meeting and you know, having a tug during the meeting,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: and he got sacked for that. But I mean, how
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: are you sitting there on a zoom call put some
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: pants on.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: For goodness saying he did to his credit, he did
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: alter the.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: You saw me underwear anyway that you know they took
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: about being caught with your trousers down. He's had it
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: for real. How about this one out of the US
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: as well. This is really one of those only in
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the United States stories.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Woman who went to Sea World in Florida.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: She went for a ride on the Mako roll and
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: she got hit in the face by a duck, and
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: so now she wants fifty grand out of Sea World.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: She's suing them because she's she had all these medical
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: issues and whatever as a result. But apparently when she
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: got hit in the head by the duck, it knocked
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: her out. I don't know why she didn't just duck
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the duck, but she claims that the roller coaster disturbs
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: birds in the area or something, and so they come
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: and hitch in the head.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: All seems a bit fast fixed.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: So what does she want them to cull the ducks
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: so there's no risk of them hitting people on the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: roller coaster?
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: The duck alla range I reckons the way to go, all.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Right, that's it from us. We're going to go but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: stick around. Coming up in just a moment is the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Rida Penny Show. Good Night, have a great weekend.