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The Sarah Kellen Congressional Transcript (Part 10) (6/14/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where he
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  left off with the Sarah Kellen conversation with congress mister Timmins. So,
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  pre two thousand and seven, hundreds of people have been
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  identified as victims, many of them under age, somewhere between sex, assault, solicitation, whatnot.
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  He went to jail substantially for that. Afterwards, it seems
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  that he did not pursue underage women, but he created
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  a cult like environment for a dozen women. You've been
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  named as a victim, and you've received compensation from the
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  estate and from many other legal settlements. Is that fair
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  Kellen from the estate in a class action suit? Timmins, Okay.
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  The purpose of this endeavor, which I'm sure is very
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  unpleasant to be a part of, is to try to
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  find additional culpable individuals, to hold them accountable, to give
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  the American people the trust that we're taking this matter
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  very seriously, and to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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  So you have given us a new name that I
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  did not have before, which is the man that later
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  became the mayor and ran for governor and is worth
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  hundreds of millions of dollars, So we got a new
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  name of somebody that we can pursue accountability with. I
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  think a lot of people think that the lawyer and
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  the accountant are also culpable. Do you believe that the
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  lawyer and accountant Konnen Endyke have culpability related to the
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  crimes that Jeffrey Epstein was being prosecuted for and that
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  Glenn Maxwell is currently serving twenty years in prison for.
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  Do you believe that they have some responsibility for facilitating
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  those for allowing those to happen? Kellen, I don't know
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  exactly what they would have known or not known. I
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  feel like Darren would be mostly the one to be
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  aware of kind of all the inner workings because he
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  kind of like had his hands in all things legal.
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  He was kind of involved in all the civil suits
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  and hiring attorneys for me. Timmins, was there a black
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  bag of cash when you were in his orbit at
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  the time, Kellen, Jeffrey traveled with a black bag kind
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  of like his briefcase, Timmins? Did he pay people out
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  of the bag in cash? Ham? If it doesn't implicate victims,
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  you can answer to the extent it doesn't implicate victims. Kellen,
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  I don't know what all he used for cash. Timmins,
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  you don't have to answer, That's fine, Kellen, Yeah, Timmins.
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  Did you ever witness were there other powerful people that
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  were in your orbit that you had witness with that
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  were in a situation that caused you to question their
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  presence around Epstein? Did people come to the island and
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  leave with someone and come back. I mean, you can
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  only say what you've seen, but you've seen other women
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  that possibly would be victims having encounters with people of
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  power of influence. Have you seen anything like that? Kellen's
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  I did not. Timmins, Okay. Have you considered suing or
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  pursuing criminal charges against the former mayor of Miami that
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  you say sexually assaulted you Kellen, No, Timmins, He'll probably
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  write you a check, Go ahead. Berlisen, in your deposition,
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  you said that being in Epstein's orbit, that you were
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  in a situation were you even feared for your life
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  or that you thought that you that every time everything
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  would end everything you knew in the world, even your life.
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  Later you said that there were two FBI agents that
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  kind of validated Jeffrey's claim. They were not validating it
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  when you witness his interaction with those agents, in your mind,
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  was validation of his claim or the appearance that he
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  could control any law enforcement agency. Kellen, Uh huh, mister Burlison,
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  So I kind of want to dive into that. Can
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  you go into greater detail about that event at the
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  airport with the two FBI agents? What did they look like?
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  Did you overhear the conversation? What exactly happened? Kellen? So,
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  we were leaving the island and we have pre clear
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  customs Saint Thomas in the airport, and there was a
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  handler that usually like will bring us in and handle
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  our luggage and we give our IDs, and I just
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  remember standing there. It was like me, Jeffrey and his
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  girlfriend and I think one other guest. And the handler
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  comes up and says, there's FBI agents that want to
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  talk to Sarah and redacted. And I feel like I
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  could I saw them from a distance, but they were
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  kind of far away, and Jeffrey's like, wait here, and
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  then he went to speak with him, and then ten
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  minutes later he comes back and he's like, okay, let's go,
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  and like then we all just walk on the plane
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  and then he never says anything else about it, and
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  nothing else happened, Burlison, What do you think those agents
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  wanted to talk to Sarah and redacted? Kellen? I knew
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  he was being investigated at the time, Burlison. Were they
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  underage at the time, Kellen, who Ham, No, it wasn't.
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  They wanted to talk to bur Listen to you. I'm
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  sorry to Sarah and redacted. Burlson. Okay, did you ever
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  schedule any meetings, any calls with Epstein with individuals who
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  might have been in any intelligence agencies from the United States? Well,
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  that's weird because Bill Burns was at Jeffrey Epstein's house.
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  Mister Burlson might want to check on that, Kellen. No, Burlison.
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  Did Epstein have other interactions that you were aware of
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  with other government officials, whether it's FBI, CIA, Kellen, I
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  mean other than like Clinton, her Prince. I mean that's
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  not US. I know he was friends with George Mitchell.
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  He remained friendly with Matt Mentchell after his jail time,
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  who I think was one of the prosecutors in his
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  first case. Burlison, Okay, any foreign contacts I know that
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  you mentioned head there were multiple interactions with Edward Barrock.
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  Did those visits include security? Were there other officials at
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  the meetings as well? Kellen, who definitely had security. He
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  would visit the house at New York and a who
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  had also stayed at one of the apartments at three
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  oh one when he visited Burlison. Did any of those
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  Were any of those meetings of a business nature? Were
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  they just personal or social in nature? Kellen, I'm not
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  sure what the nature was exactly. I also remember that
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  there was an associate of Yannie Koryn I believe was
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  his name, that Jeffrey was paying for his medical bills
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  in New York, and then he had me go to
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  the hospital and pay cash for his procedure on behalf
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  of Yanni Kryn Burlison. Did Jeffrey ever discuss or reference
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  working with being protected by like intelligence services or other governments? Kellen?
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  No burtherson, Okay, how did he handle his own personal
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  security during travel? Kellen? He didn't really have security in
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  the beginning. When he went to jail the first time,
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  he had his personal trainer, Igor Zinoviev kind of become
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  like a driver slash bodyguard for a while after, but
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  other than that, he didn't really have like a proper
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  security detail. Burlison was Glenn's father, Robert Maxwell. Was it
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  ever brought up in that relationship, Kellen, Not that I remember.
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  I remember Glaine there was like a book about her father,
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  and she gave a copy to Fidel Castro when we
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  were in Cuba. But I don't know that there was
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  a lot of conversation necessarily, Like I knew that they
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  had a yacht. His yacht was named after her. I
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  didn't even really like kind of research or understand who
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  he was or what you know. He was accused of
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  stealing money from his employees and they weren't sure it
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  was either a suicide or a murder in his death
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  on the boat, Burlison. Were there any other any other
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  meetings with people from the Middle East? Were there any transfers,
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  any kind of information or tech? Kellen. He was very
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  friendly with Sultan bin Suleiman. I think that they were
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  both invested in like a yacht company. I don't know
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  if this was like particular information. I think they were
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  both invested like American yacht company. Burlison. Thank you, miss Bobert.
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  So you had testified that you had fairly extensive interactions
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  with President Clinton did President Clinton know that you were
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  being abused by Jeffrey Epstein Kellen, No, Bobert. In your testimony,
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  it seems that you were made to be available at
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  all times at Jeffrey Epstein's pleasure. He would wake you
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  up in the middle of the night even and so
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  did those interactions happen on the plane Kellen? Yes, Bobert,
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  And were other people present on the plane when the
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  abuse occurred Kellen, It wasn't in front of them. He
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  had a bedroom in the back with the door on it. Bobert.
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  And was anyone suspicious of what was of the interactions
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  that were happening behind the closed doors? Kellen, I don't know.
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  No one ever really spoke about things like that. Like
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  he kind of made sure we were all kind of
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  separate and didn't like talk to each other, and he
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  was very strategic about that, Bobert. Were you allowed, Were you,
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  specifically or anyone working with Jeffrey Epstein not allowed to
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  speak with the guests or friends that he had on
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  the plane or no one talks on the plane? How
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  was that separation made Kellen? I mean, we would just
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  talk about service things, but nobody spoke about anything private. Bobert,
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  and did anything sexual ever happen in the presence of
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  Bill Clinton, Kellen no Bobert. Was he on the plane
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  at the time when he would bring you into a
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  room and abuse you? Was President Clinton on the plane
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  when Jeffrey Epstein would bring you in the room and
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  abuse you? Kellen no Bobert. Never once were you abused
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  on a plane while President Trump, or excuse me, President
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  Clinton was a board, Kellen no Bobert. President Clinton testified
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  that he did not have a friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton were
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  friendly and did have a friendship Kellen. They seemed to
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  be friendly for a short period of time around the
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  times that Jeffrey flew him to Africa and Asia, But
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  I didn't see like it lasted or was anything kind
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  of more beyond that time period, Bobert. Were you ever
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  in contact with President Clinton in arranging flights or meetings? Kellen,
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  I was on all the flights with mister Clinton, President Clinton, Bobert,
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  were you ever part of Were you ever the one
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  to arrange meetings with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein Kellen No,
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  Like for those particular trips, it would have been I
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  think Laine mostly organized with the staff and the scheduling
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  for those, Miss Bobert. While Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton
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  were friendly during that short period of time, did you
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  see them together and witness their interaction? Kellen, yes, Bobert.
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  What was it? If you can recall that they had
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  spoken about Kellen, I don't remember specific so what they
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  spoke about. I mean I was present with them on
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  the plains and various like the Sultan of Brunei's house.
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  We went and had lunch there. We were together in
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  President Clinton's hotel room in Brunei in the pool, Miss Bowl.
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  Were you abused in the hotel room at the time
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  while Bill Clinton was there? Kellen, No, definitely not when
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  Bill Clinton was there. I don't remember if anything happened
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  privately with Jeffrey on that trip, Bobert. Did any did
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  any other men ever approach you with a desire to
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  be connected with other women or girls? Kellen, No, Bobert.
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  You had mentioned that there was at least three other abusers.
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  Are those the only other three abusers? Or were you
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  abused by anyone else? Miss Kellen, Jeffrey Glaine, Philip Levine
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  and Frederick Focai, Patrick de Martier, nothing happened, but he
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  tried Burlsen. What was that name again, Patrick de Martier.
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  He is a famous fashion photographer, Bolbert, and you said
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  nothing happened, he tried, Kellen. He walked over to me
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  with his pants down, and I refused, miss Bolbert, and
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  he accepted your refusal. I'm sorry. I know that's uncomfortable
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  for you to relive. I'm not trying to be harsh
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  in my questioning and in any of these did you
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  you said you never connected with any men with girls ever? Oh? Ham,
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  Sorry to clarify, you never connected any of Jeffrey Epstein's
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  associates with other girls Kellen correct Ham, Yeah, okay Bolbert.
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  When I made the statement, I did mean associates to
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  Jeffrey Epstein. Thank you for clarifying. Burlison. Can you describe
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  Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with Hillary Clinton? Kellen, I never met her,
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  so I'm not sure. I'm not aware of what relationship
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  they would have had, Burlison. Did you ever schedule any
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  meetings between the two Kellen? No, Berlisen, Okay, Bobert. I
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  think that's all I have for now, question, Okay, thanks,
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  miss Kellen. In two thousand and five, police in Palm Beach,
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  Florida began investigating mister Epstein, and in July of two
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  thousand and six, mister Epstein was arrested for the first
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  time for soliciting prostitution from minors. When did you first
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  become aware of the investigation into mister Epstein? Answer two
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  thousand and five question how did you become aware? Answer?
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  I don't think I can say. Ham. Yeah, I think
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  that implicates another victim, unfortunately. But why don't we give
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  you their approximate time period? Was it before or after
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  the search warrant? Kellen? Before Brignac? Did someone tell you
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  about the investigation? Ham? I think she can't discuss specifics.
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  Question did someone tell you about the investigation? Answer? Yes,
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  question it was a victim? Ham. We think this may,
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  based on allegations, implicate a victim, but I think you
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  can say generally how the information got to you? Was
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  a by phone? Was it by email? Did somebody come
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  and talk to you Kellen? It was by phone? Brignac. Okay,
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  did you believe that at the time that the allegations
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  were true? Ham? I don't think at the time she
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  knew the allegations Kellen, exactly, I wasn't sure what the
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  allegations were. Brignac, I'm sorry, could you repeat that quite? Answer?
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  I didn't know what the allegations were at the time.
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  Question when did you first hear about the allegations? Answer?
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  I don't know exactly. Jeffrey kind of presented it all
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  that he was the victim, that he was being taken
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  advantage of, like unscrupulous women that were out to get
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  his money and in cahoots with each other, that their
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  attorneys were out to extore them. He would give me
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  examples of Scott Rothstein making up false civil suits that
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  he forged the judge's signature and like was committing fraud
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  and was like getting investors to pay off these settlements
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  that didn't exist. And he was like, see, they're making
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  it up. Question did you believe them? Answer? I did? Question? Why? Answer?
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  Because I only had his side, his reference. Nobody questioned me,
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  nobody approached me, so I only had his narrative. Question
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  given that he was abusing you at the time, why
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  did you think that these other victims were not being truthful? Answer?
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  I didn't view my abuse at the time. I didn't
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  blame them. I blame myself because I never spoke up.
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  I never said no, I never thought I chose. I know,
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  like trauma response is usually fight flight or flee or freeze,
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  and I chose fawn to kind of appease them to
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  stay on his good side and be safe. All right, folks,
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  we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next
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  episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where
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