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Mac & Bone Hour 4: What's Next at Punt Returner After Jimmy Horn Cut · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: I'm Will Pelagic. All right, let's do this. We got
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: so much to talk about with the P-Man. We got
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: a fast food item to bring up with the P-Man.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: We got Charlotte FC still unbeaten in seven, although, man,
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: they had that 3-2 lead late before Cincinnati made it
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: a 3-3 draw. And, of course, we got all kind
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: of Panther stuff. And it's very exciting. I get to
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: talk to Willie about a Giro of Arrow in his defense.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: That's fun. It was just like it was fun in
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  Speaker 2: the press box on Sunday. P-Man, what's going on, baby?
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: What's happening today, P?
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  Speaker 3: I hope you're taking care of our first baseman, Mac.
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: That was really special last night.
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  Speaker 4: We want you to use that for your swine today.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: We want you to go off and swine.
• 0:59
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: You got another swine.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: I got somebody else. I got somebody else.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: You got another swine.
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  Speaker 3: You'll like this one. It's something you.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Guys have talked about. Okay, okay. Can I just say
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: I love Pete Alonzo?
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean to talk about your ex-girlfriend in front
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  Speaker 2: of you, but, man, what a guy in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 1: What a pro.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I didn't want– I didn't want the girlfriend to leave.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: It's because daddy dumb bucks and, uh, the boy wonder, uh,
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: stat dummy, uh, didn't decide they wanted to pay him.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay though. It's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and then the inside to park home run to
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  Speaker 2: beat y'all where your center theater falls down.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: God, it was funny.
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: It's a persona occasion of these Mets. What happens when
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: bacon or rocket poops in the, uh, inside? What are
• 1:46
  Speaker 3: you supposed to do with them? You're supposed to rub
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: their face in it. I hope that this is the
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: rubbing of the face. I hope that David Stearns has
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  Speaker 3: to look at that pile of poop and just have
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: his face rubbed all up in it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I want. When Murphy does it, he tries
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  Speaker 1: to rub my face in it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: Your household runs a little bit differently.
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  Speaker 1: We know who's in charge here.
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  Speaker 3: You're learning as a pit owner or whatever he is.
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  Speaker 1: Bulldog, bulldog, bulldog.
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  Speaker 3: Bulldog owner, as a bulldog owner.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So let's start with the Panther game. You
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  Speaker 2: can't deny the defense was horrible. I actually thought P
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday on the post game. I always listen on
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: my ride home. I actually thought you were going to
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  Speaker 2: go off on a Vero and Lord knows you had
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  Speaker 2: plenty of ammo. Cause that was one of those most
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  Speaker 2: pathetic things I have ever seen from one side of
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  Speaker 2: the ball for the Carolina Panthers. Maybe the most pathetic
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  Speaker 2: day you were kind of reserved. What's your, what were
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  Speaker 2: your feelings on the defense and the blame? And why
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  Speaker 2: did you not like go scorched earth on a Vero
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because I'm pacing myself and we have 17 weeks
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  Speaker 3: to go. No, because here's the thing, because in the
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  Speaker 3: games where I'm frustrated with a Jiro Vero, like certain
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  Speaker 3: things happen, like the death by a thousand paper cuts
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  Speaker 3: drives where you can't get off the field or, you know,
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  Speaker 3: getting beat with consistent tight end play. We did have
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  Speaker 3: the one characteristic that is kind of personifying of the
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  Speaker 3: Jiro Vero team, Whereas a team just completely blows you
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  Speaker 3: off the ball, running the football. So that is one thing.
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  Speaker 3: And if there is one thing other than that, that
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  Speaker 3: I would, I would quibble with is that you basically
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  Speaker 3: had three choices. When you were a zero of arrow,
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  Speaker 3: you could play your base and let everything happen in
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  Speaker 3: front of you. Like they usually do. You could blitz,
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  Speaker 3: which is what he did 54% of the time. Like
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: you said, with the PFF numbers, or you could play
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  Speaker 3: your base with a spy and, and, I think there
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  Speaker 3: was not enough of that base with a spy type look.
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  Speaker 3: So if there was one criticism of him, I would
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  Speaker 3: say that probably was maybe not disguising or doing enough
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  Speaker 3: variant type stuff to try and keep Caleb Williams off balance.
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  Speaker 3: I did think that they actually adjusted when it came
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  Speaker 3: to the lack of contain with some of the things
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  Speaker 3: after the first two, three drives. because you did see
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  Speaker 3: them really trying to swallow them up in the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: They were trying. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A lot, a lot, a lot of this, I come
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  Speaker 3: down to execution issues. Like this has to, the same stuff.
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  Speaker 3: When you go 59 points, it's not just the coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: There's gotta be some pride in the players. There's gotta
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  Speaker 3: be some, you know, execution that happens at a much
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  Speaker 3: higher level. And, and I'm sorry, you're a 31 31.
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  Speaker 3: Derek Brown can't make that play the way that he did.
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  Speaker 3: And he can't jump off sides on the interception. I
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  Speaker 3: understand that Bobby Brown ran it out of the back
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  Speaker 3: of the end zone. So they probably would have had,
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  Speaker 3: you know, themselves pinned back to the two or three
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  Speaker 3: yard line. I get all that, but, I more look
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  Speaker 3: at that as an execution issue. And you know me.
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  Speaker 3: I do not need an excuse. I do not need
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  Speaker 3: an excuse to get on a Girovero. And I am
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  Speaker 3: not giving him a pass. I think there are plenty
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  Speaker 3: of things to criticize him for. But to say this
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  Speaker 3: is all on him, I think it's a pie chart.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's probably 40% him, 40% the players, and
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  Speaker 3: we also have to consider the opponent. Look at Dan
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  Speaker 3: Orlovsky looking at the tape from Sunday. Caleb Williams is
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  Speaker 3: making throws that quite frankly, he would do against the
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  Speaker 3: best defenses in the league. He got guys who were,
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  Speaker 3: you know, way up on coverage when it came to that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you have to give, you tip your
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  Speaker 3: hat to the opponent a little bit as much as
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: we hate to do so because that head coach is
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  Speaker 3: smarmy and we don't like him. But I think it's
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  Speaker 3: a situation where a confluence of issues led to the
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  Speaker 3: Panthers looking like that on defense on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: On the offensive side, what did you like the most
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  Speaker 4: and what do you think is most sustainable and can
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  Speaker 4: carry over to other weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I love Bryce, obviously. That's kind of the main thing.
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  Speaker 3: He looked very poised. He was very, very good on
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  Speaker 3: the run and mobile. I think that you were able
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  Speaker 3: to kind of scheme some guys open, and we saw
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that, particularly with the tight ends. I
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: loved his connection with Jalen Coker. That's something that I
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  Speaker 3: think is incredibly good to see. But there were a
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  Speaker 3: couple things, though, that I still was kind of concerned about.
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't like how it seemed that The Bears were
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  Speaker 3: able to so easily take Tedder or McMillan out of
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  Speaker 3: the football game. That's part of the reason maybe that
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  Speaker 3: we saw such a big game from Coker because Bryce
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  Speaker 3: is not going to try to force it to somebody
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  Speaker 3: who's covered. He's going to try to hit the open man.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like how much or how early we get
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  Speaker 3: up on the run. That's something that's a harken back
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  Speaker 3: to Dave Canales' time as a play caller. I really,
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  Speaker 3: really hope that they can be more stubborn with the
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  Speaker 3: run because that's only going to open up the play
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  Speaker 3: action a heck of a lot more. I saw somebody
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  Speaker 3: put a stat out there. The play action numbers for
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  Speaker 3: Bryce last year, were just horror-awful. But in the first
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  Speaker 3: game on Sunday, they were some of the best he's
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  Speaker 3: had in his career.
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  Speaker 2: Number one PFF grade on play action in the league.
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  Speaker 2: You're not getting a number by Mack on this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but Walker had a bunch of good ones, too, on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the room when they were volleying back
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  Speaker 2: and forth.
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  Speaker 3: That's who it was who I saw tweeted. I'll give
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  Speaker 3: credit to the mailman on that one. But no, I
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  Speaker 3: think that it wasn't a perfect performance. I do disagree
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  Speaker 3: with Dave Canales and said that they didn't do enough
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  Speaker 3: to win the football game. And I like that KB
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  Speaker 3: pushed back on him on that in the post-game press conference.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you score 38 points in this league,
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  Speaker 3: you should beat a lot of teams. And if that
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  Speaker 3: carries over, hopefully the defense gets its collective you-know-what together
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  Speaker 3: and they play to at least closer to the form.
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  Speaker 3: And one last thing I'll say on them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: The reason why people are pissed, it's not because of
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  Speaker 3: the man in charge.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it's.
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  Speaker 3: Because– I don't have people who have residual things about
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  Speaker 3: the man in charge, myself included. But it's because this
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  Speaker 3: was the first offseason where you felt like you actually
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  Speaker 3: spent and dedicated assets to that side of the football.
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  Speaker 3: And for it to look like that is incredibly disappointing
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  Speaker 3: and unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Big time.
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  Speaker 2: We were sitting here touting the top ten unit, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll see where it lies. I'm not writing them off
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  Speaker 2: just yet. But I was in utter shock to see
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  Speaker 2: them be that bad. And I know the Bears' offense
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  Speaker 2: is great. but my God, that was disgusting to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like the New England game last year. It
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: felt like the New England game last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want people to think that I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: furious with it and I don't have a huge issue
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  Speaker 2: with it. I just think the whole fire the guy
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  Speaker 2: after week.
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  Speaker 1: One, like.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I that's, that's where I'm kind of like, Hey, let's,
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: let's get to the bi-week and evaluate. Like if it
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  Speaker 2: stinks by the bi-week with the additions they brought in,
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  Speaker 2: we got a real, we got.
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  Speaker 3: A conversation to play the next two weeks, to play
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  Speaker 3: the next two weeks. If it looks like this against
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  Speaker 3: the Browns, then the, then the, then the, then the
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  Speaker 3: Tiki torches and the pitchforks are coming down mid street.
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  Speaker 2: I would say this, if they stink bone against the,
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: and Willie against Atlanta, and the Browns with their quarterback situations,
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  Speaker 2: I will go down to Avero's office and ask him
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  Speaker 2: to come out of it personally.
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  Speaker 1: All right? Because there is no excuse.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to get this thing back stabilized over the
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. P, as far as Charlotte FC goes,
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: we'll save the food question, and I know you have
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  Speaker 2: a swine that you want to get to. But, um, let's,
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: let's talk about Charlotte FC. Yeah. I mean, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: bit bummed they couldn't finish it, but, um, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know in that venue, the way that they didn't have
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of the ball and were outplayed in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of ways, it.
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  Speaker 1: Was, it wasn't a bad result.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: Like, what did you think about the Cincinnati game and
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: how are you feeling about where FC is right now?
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  Speaker 3: It was incredibly evident that the team was gassed at
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  Speaker 3: the end of that contest. Having to play defense as
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: much as they did, and it's unfortunate that the two
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: goals you gave up were basically mental errors off of
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: set pieces. One off the second phase of a set piece,
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: and one with Kevin Denke somehow not being marked in
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: the box. I asked Dean Smith about it on Monday.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: He said, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think he should go to Jabril Gianni. There were
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of other guys who could have stepped to him.
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: There was also Kalina who could have stepped to the
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  Speaker 3: cross as well and got it before Denke even saw it.
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  Speaker 3: So there's that part of it. So I think that
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: you had a team that was at the end of
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: a very, very long stretch. They played eight games in
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: the month of August. They had a three-game week to
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: start the month of September. And I think it's one
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: of those things where you just got yourself to a
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: point where between that and being down as many numbers
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: as there were, two guys with suspensions, a couple of
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: guys with injuries, you just didn't really have a full
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: deck to be able to go out and replace those
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: guys and rotate after the midweek. And I think... one
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: of the things Dean Smith says is that if you
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: can average two points a contest, you're doing all right. So,
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: you know, four point week with two road games, that's
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: a heck of a lot better than the squad has
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: done in their history over the course of it. I mean,
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: so I, and not with everything withstanding, they ended up
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: moving up a spot as a result of that draw.
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: You know, they're at one point ahead of Chicago. Chicago
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: does have a game in hand, but you do have
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: a head to head with them. coming up here in
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: two weeks. And again, that might not feature Robert Lewandowski
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: because it's over an international break. So there's a lot
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: that's happening in the positive for Charlotte in that factor.
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  Speaker 3: Harry Toffolo is back on the grass. I'm about to
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: talk to him here in just a couple of minutes
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: for our pregame on Saturday. So maybe you get Toffolo back,
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: you get Archie Goodwin back, Liel, Maxie. I think they're
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders. Seven in a row unbeaten. There's
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: nothing to sneeze at. It's not what Philadelphia or St.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Louis is doing. It's not the best form in the
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: league right now, but it certainly is up there, and
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: they're peaking at the right time, which is something you
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: definitely want to see, especially in a very large slog
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: of road games. which the MLS schedule maker did not
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: do them any favors. Two three-game road trips in the
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: final two months of the season. When do we tick off?
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: When do we tick off? I blame it on you.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I blame it on you. I think they hear you
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: bashing their refs, and they did this because of it.
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: They deserve it.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm with you on that. God, I'm with you
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: on that. Should we ask? We've got to ask about this.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Nobody involved with Charlotte FC. And I said,
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: does the league care about this issue? Like, do they
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: willing to spend the money? And he said to me
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: flat out, they don't. So if that's the case, if
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: they don't care, Why should I care about the way
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: that they should be criticized?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I like it. I like it, P. I
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: like it.
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  Speaker 2: P-Man, before your swine, we noticed something online. I had
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: this sent to me. Not Martha Stewart.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: No, that turned out to be a false alarm. Dr. Pepper.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: This is Slim Chickens. Dr.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Pepper dry rub. Chicken tenders. These chicken tenders are coated
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: in a new Dr. Pepper dry rub. Is your interest piqued,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: or do you think that tastes bad or sounds bad?
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: I don't mess with Dr. Pepper, so you're not going
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: to get me on that.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Would Mr. Pibb, if they did Mr. Pibb, a cheer
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: wine maybe?
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: I don't mess with any sodas that have a salutation
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: above them.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: No, do not. So Mr. Pibb is out?
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: No, Dr.
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: Pibb.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: No Dr.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: Pepper, no Mr. Pibb, no Dr. Thunder, no. Dr.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Thunder? What is Dr.
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: Thunder?
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Thunder is the Food Lion brand, right? Yes, yes. What
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: is that? That is the, oh, like the generic.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: That's the food lion generic store brand.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: I used to bag a lot of Dr. Thunders back
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: in my day.
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: Dr.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Thunder, when you love a good Dr. Pepper, but you broke.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: Willie knows Soda Ball, okay?
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: I think that was the Mountain Dew for Food Lion.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: Wasn't it called Mountain Lion, I think? Mountain Lightning, wasn't it?
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Mountain Lightning, yeah.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: I saw that, too. Listen, I'm poor as dirt, too.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to think I'm not, but I
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: got a spring for the dew. I can't go for
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: the lightning.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Can we get a cherry lemon sundrop dry rub? I mean,
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I'm ready for that.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're open to that. Okay.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll talk to my people over there at Slim's.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Let's go for your swine, Willie.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: That's fine. Swan has to be the people at McClatchy
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: for doing what they did to Rod Boone. I'm sorry.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: And what they're doing to journalism. You now have two
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: teams without a beat writer who are part of your
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: paper portfolio in Sacramento, which is where their company is
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: headquartered in Sacramento. And their flagship paper is not going
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: to have a person covering them in the only sports
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: team in that town. The Charlotte Hornets came here in 1988.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: They've had somebody covering them dedicatedly since 1987. And to
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: put that team without a beat writer is shameful, shambolic.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: It's also insulting to Rod Boone, somebody who was a
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: hustler who, after he got his job eliminated at the Athletic,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: kept going, kept trying to do stuff on his own.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: And he was a dedicated person on the beat to
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the point where he earned that job. after Rick Bunnell
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: sadly passed away a couple of years ago. I don't
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: understand how the heck they feel like they're going to
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: have independent coverage of the team without a daily beat writer.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: They already had slacked off on traveling their guys on
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: the road. So this kind of had been coming. But man,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: oh man, just an absolutely shameful decision.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I hate it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: And a terrible bastion of journalism that McClatchy is. I
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: canceled my Observer two days ago. And I encourage you
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: to do the same.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: That's strong from the P-Man. I hate it for Rod.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Great talent and a great guy.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Well said. You rock, P-Man. We'll talk to you, baby. Thanks, guys.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Willie P. By the way,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: a couple of things here about the sodas, the generic sodas.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: It turns out that Dr. Thunder is the Walmart brand,
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: and I have never heard this before. Is it not
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: the Food Lion brand? The Food Lion brand is Dr.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Perky. Oh, that's right. That's right. I spent a lot
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: of time with Dr.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Perky.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Bro, you go to drink a soda called Dr.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Perky.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I forgot.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: That's right. Holy crap. That's right. Oh, my God.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Perky.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I remember I used to have to say, we need
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: a price check on Dr.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Perky's.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: We need a price check on Dr. Perky's. Dr.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Perky is some weird character that Fitty would play on
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a role-playing.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Night with a lady.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, his?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Why is he in my bedroom? I mean, his lady, maybe?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Let's say he's got a lady now. Oh, my God.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: He's not any lady. He's got his own lady.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell her on Saturday night. He's got Nurse Perky.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I got you scheduled with Dr.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Perky. Come in, ma'am.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: No?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: The good news with Mac Finney is he never makes
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it awkward, ever, does he?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I can tell. The two of you just licked it. Yeah. Okay.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: All right. I tried. I tried. How about you try
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: that on Mrs.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Mac?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Let me know how that works. If it works for you,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: then I'll use it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell her, Dr. Perky's home, honey. He's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: ready to operate. That bedroom door will be slammed and locked.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's seen Dr. Perky in years.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Neither has Mac. Oh, stop that, sir. Stop that, y'all.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we talk about the surprise cut
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of Jimmy Horn.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Does it make sense?
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Who steps up now as the return man and the
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: depth overall at wide receiver?
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: It's Mac. It's Bone. And Dr. Perky, Sports Radio 92.7.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Do we continue to see Jimmy Horn on punt returns
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: or is that an area where maybe you try a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: few other bodies this week?
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going to have to consider that part. You know,
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: those are some really important situations right there, especially after
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: a stop, a huge stop by the defense and, you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: where everybody's fired up and it's like, here we go.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: You know, we're going to now take the next step
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: in this game and let's recapture the momentum to give
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: it right back to a really good offense in that
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: kind of territory. You know, we're going to have to
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: think about all that and Tracy and I will make sure,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: you know, and Dan, we'll make sure that we figure
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: that part out.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: That was a very interesting clip, especially in hindsight, from
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Panther Talk on the Panther Radio Network on Monday night.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Anish Shroff asked the question about, hey, You know, could
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: there be a change at punt return? Horn did not
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: have a good day, obviously. He had the fumble that
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: was killer. We just got an actual defensive stop, which
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I think was one of two punts forced. And then
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: we had a football right back. And then he also
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: dropped the ball bone on that weird return where he
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: turned his back. You don't see that often where you
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: run up on the defense. They come to hit you
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and you turn your back on them to take the hit.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He ended up fumbling that, but he was down. He
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: was down at the time. So it certainly was a
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: great question. And as Dave Canales is answering that question,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: we noticed Bone today. Oh, he said he's got to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: talk it over with Tracy Smith, the special teams coordinator,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and Dan Morgan, the GM.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: That was a lot of talking for a head coach
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: to do. That was not just a simple, we want
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: to change the return man move. That was, we want
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: to return this man back where he came from.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Is it a roster spot issue? Not just a, can
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: he be our return man issue? And sure enough, yesterday
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we found out it was. His roster spot was in jeopardy.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It surprised a lot of us, Bone. He ends up
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: being waived. Now, I could see him make his way
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: back to the practice squad. I don't know if they
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: just want to cut bait entirely with him. It sounds
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: like they needed to get Tyrell Dotson, the linebacker that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was with Miami last year, 120-plus tackles, five sacks last year.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Hell of a signee by us.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: But it seems like, according to Mike Kay, there was
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a team that was trying to get him for their
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: active roster.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And the Panthers, as Mike K.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Puts it, didn't want to lose him, so had to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: promote him or they were going to lose him. So
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it seems like they needed a roster spot, but I
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have guessed it would come from Jimmy Hornbone.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were carrying an extra wide out anyway than
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: they normally have or more than.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Most teams do, right? What are they down to now? Five?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: That's kind of light.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: They're down to five and XL. So they got four
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: and whatever XL provides. Yeah, it's light. Usually they're at
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: six or seven. Yes, Vinny is doing the hand gesture.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: So being at five is kind of light. But again,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: is David Moore? I know KB couldn't wait yesterday. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: was listening to him when this story broke. And KB
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: put his man, the old ranch hand, David Moore, in
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: the conversation. And it does make you wonder. But as
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you pointed out this morning, they put out their unofficial
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: depth chart for the week right after this. Mechie right
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: now is the return man. And I'm kind of intrigued, Bone.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have a lot of return experience. But I'm
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: kind of intrigued by what he did in the preseason.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: But then again, I thought Jimmy Horn was a good
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: return man in the preseason. Yeah, he's got a limited
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: kick return. Seven, I think you said, right?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Seven kick returns for 17 yards per.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: No play returns in his career. Yeah, and then none
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of them at college.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So he hasn't done much, but he looked like he
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: fit in in the preseason, but so did Jimmy Horn.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it that much easier to run
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it back maybe in the preseason?
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Now, if he's not good or effective as a return man,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I did look up today– that jaseem reed was a
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: return man in college whatever that means i don't know
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: if he would be the the next guy up if
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: this doesn't work out return wise maybe i don't know
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: we'll see he does have experience with it at least.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It does make you wonder if they'll call up another
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wide receiver this dude says.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Jaseem reed might get a call here at some point
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: he had a heck of a camp so he.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Could be in the conversation definitely um don't forget about
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: him it's a good point 704 number says Am I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the only one that says, screw even worrying about returning
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: a punt? Can we just get a punt catcher we
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: can trust? David Moore, come on down. Well, that's a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: point KP was making too, is like, are you just
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: at the point where you're like, can we just put
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: someone back?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Because we have two straight games.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: If you go back to the playoff game against the Rams,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: when he, not ETN, HN, let me get that straight.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: When HN dropped one, and now you have Horn doing it,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it's two straight games. You're a punt returner giving the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: football away.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't have that. So, yeah, I do wonder.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: We're not good enough to give the ball away like
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that at all.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: No.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Most teams are, but especially this one.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was killer because the defense, like I said,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: finally got a damn stop.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: They punt the football. I'm like, let's do this. And
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Horn freaking.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: fumbles the ball away so there's an interesting question about
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: return man there's also there's a there's a question too
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: that some people are mad about this i don't know
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: how much this bothers panther fans but jimmy horn has
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: always had this fan following and i know with the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: preseason he had i really jumped on board i don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: know if i ruined it for him bone and cursed
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: him But I wonder if people are upset by this.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: This one texter is 980 number. This is ridiculous. A
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: guy like J.T. Sanders is still out there for us
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and not even getting a helmet. What's the point of
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: his roster spot? And why is XL still on the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: damn roster? Because he's a draft choice.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: High draft choice and the cap hit actually i saw
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: someone tweet out yesterday it's actually more expensive matt to
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: cut xl right now they keep him on the roster
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: yeah it would definitely cost you something i think it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: a five million dollar cap hit but it's three million
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: dollars if he's on the roster so that plays a
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: part of this i think that you something in that
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: neighborhood you said the first part too that's very important
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: too is the um the aspect of him being a
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: first round pick Right, and even Sanders.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Sanders being a day— well, he was.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Fourth round, right? One of the top picks of the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: fourth round, right? Okay, that's day three, just like Horn.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I think he was pick 100, if I'm not mistaken.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It's like two rounds before Horn, but it's still a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: third day. I'm going to be honest with you on
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: JT Sanders. I've said this a lot. Somebody earlier said
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Mack sounds like it's personal with JT Sanders. Did he
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: do something to you or something? Something that affects him,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I texted. I just don't think he's necessary. The only
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: reason I can think he's necessary in their minds is—
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: are they a little apprehensive with all the injuries Waller
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: had last year? And are they feeling like they want
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Waller insurance? And so they're keeping JT Sanders around. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: other than that, four tight ends with Waller, I don't
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: really see the need for him to ever get a
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: helmet if the guys are healthy. And I do feel
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like we're a little light at wide receiver right now
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: on the roster. I also think, Bone, we're light at
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: wide receivers you can trust in the passing game right now.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I know Horn didn't do anything in the passing game
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the other day, but outside of that, now you brought
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: up the good point an hour ago. It looks like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: T-Mac and Coker could be a formidable duo.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It's not just a one and then Coker's down. It
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: looks like it's- Like one A and one B type thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That looks like it's possible, but don't you need another
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: wide receiver to step up? Who's the wide receiver that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: can step up outside of those two?
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a name out there, Darius Slayton, that
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: got released by the Giants. I mean, is he someone
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: that could come in to be a third guy? He's
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: a free agent still. I know that Tyreek Hill is
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: out there. I don't know if I want anything to
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: do with Tyreek Hill, but I'm looking at Darius Slayton
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: back as a third guy. Could he come in and
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: be effective with the other two? That's a name that
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: I would look at. I'm not looking for greatness here.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I'm looking for someone that can be effective. Was it
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: last offseason?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: One of these offseasons, he was a free agent, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I tried to float that out there to Dan Morgan.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: But like most things I float out there to Dan Morgan,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: he immediately probably crosses him.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Off the list. I mean, it's not a horrible idea
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that I had. It's my own idea. It's my own idea.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Bo just gave us an idea, Finney, and then said
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: it's not a horrible one.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: But sometimes when we do that for the edge rushers,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: sometimes when there's edge rushers, it's like really old guys
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: where it's like guys 35, 36. A 29-year-old Darius Slayton,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you can do far worse as a third wideout than him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think that's bad at all.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I also don't mind if they say, David Moore, go
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: out there, let's give you some reps. Like, David Moore's trustworthy,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to KB's point, you know? you know what you're going
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to get from them. It's not going to be anything special,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: but it's like, do we need anything special from that
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: third receiver? Or do we just want a ball caught XL?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Do we just want somebody to be able to get
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: some separation and convert a third and six? There also
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: is the point too, that you and I were exploring
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: last hour where it doesn't feel like a huge emergency
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and If Waller stays healthy, because I really think Waller
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: can get a fair amount of targets and big third
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: down and red zone catches. And I think with Jonathan Brooks,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: they've really, really got to use him, man. He he's
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Waller and Brooks can be mismatches. You get those guys
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: flexed out there and get them on linebackers and safeties, man.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know?
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Mac, apparently Darius Slayton's a hot commodity because I Googled
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: his name. 49ers, could they be intrigued after Stripling's injury
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: for Darius Slayton?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Ravens, injuries.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Could they look to Darius Slayton? Giants, did they drop
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the ball with Darius Slayton? Could the Jets turn to
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Darius Slayton?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So... Apparently he's a hot name out there in the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: receiving room. He's a solid guy. Yeah, you can understand
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: why that dude, you bring him in your room and
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: he's just solid. And maybe that's what we need right now.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: This texter says, it's Bush League of the Panthers to
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: keep around the failures you guys mentioned, but Jimmy Horn
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: can't make but one mistake.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I think we answered in terms of like for XL,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: like where he's drafted, his physical attributes, they're going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: exhaust that, right?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: By the way, he's not the highest draft choice. We
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: said that repeatedly.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: He has a fan base, but it's not like Jimmy
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Horn was a top draft choice. And I think some
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: fans sometimes said, oh, we got Jimmy Horn. He was
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: a sixth round draft choice, right? And he sometimes, like
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the other day, played like it. Look, it's also on
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: the other flip side of this thing, The Panthers with
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Trevin Wallace and Jimmy Horn, two of their draft choices,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: albeit not the highest. They said, you know what? We're
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: going to hold some people accountable here. Trevin Wallace, you're
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: not good enough. You're gone.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Horn, you're not good enough. You're gone.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: These are guys, Trevin Wallace, we thought might be a starter,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: didn't make it through camp. Jimmy Horn was a special teams,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: quote unquote, starter the other day in the punt return game.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: They said, you're not good enough. You're out of here.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So they're not.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: just sticking by guys because they picked them other than
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: you know we get high but they're saying it doesn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: matter if we picked you or not if you're not
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: good enough you're going to make mistakes you're out of
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: here yeah and my response to that is why is
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: JT Sanders still here it feels like he should fit
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: into that group XL I understand it he was a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: first round first round pick the physical gifts he has
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: by the way I want to say this about XL
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: they feel that Maybe they feel that there's still some
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: trade value with Sanders. If no one wanted him yet,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: if you really did shop him and nobody wanted him
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: by this point, maybe an injury, maybe they feel like bone,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: an injury and somebody will want him or something like that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I think it might be Waller insurance because he did
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: have three different stints on the IR last year.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I wanted to say this about XL, though. I will
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: give him one compliment.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: When he was returning those kicks, and he did so
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: at South Carolina, I thought it looked good. Like, he
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: had the one where you saw him like, he's not
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: full speed, and then boom, the hole opens up and
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: then he hits it. I do wonder if he can
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: be good in that role. Now, is that worthy of
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: trading up into the first round?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: No. But I do wonder if in the kick return role,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: XL can give us some. Here's my issue with that, though.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The hands. The hands.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Is he going to muff one? You know, he's not
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: caught the ball well as a wide receiver. There's no
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: doubt if he gets the ball, I think you're right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: But is he going to drop one at a big moment?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I worry about the way he's catching the ball lately
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: just as a wide out. Does he have the drop
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: seeds as a return?
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: That would be my fear of that. I ain't putting
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: him on punt return. See, kick return if you drop
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the ball. That's a good point. It takes him a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: little longer to get down there. Punt return, you drop
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that football. Ask Jimmy, and you're going to know about it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: What if he yells fair catch with that mullet accent?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I can't figure it out, though. And then we get
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a penalty because they hit him. We got a fair catcher.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And then it does have to be in the air.
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  Speaker 1: Did he say fair catch? We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 7: physically located in North Carolina. All eyes in college football
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: this weekend on the return of Lane Kiffin to Oxford
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  Speaker 7: and Ole Miss. How about this storyline that's emerged? Princewell,
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: Uman Miellen, who left Ole Miss to go with Lane
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: Kiffin to LSU. was served court-related papers yesterday in a
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: lawsuit filed by Ole Miss. So it's not just the
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: head coach that's got controversy. There are former players that
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: are involved with this as well, just adding to the
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: angst and anticipation. around this top 10 matchup on Saturday night.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: They got extra, extra, what is it, Bone? The police
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: on horseback. Yeah. They've added to their police on horseback
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: numbers for the scene at Oxford on Saturday. If Ole
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Miss wins this game, they better get Lane hitting off.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They'll storm that field immediately. Are they going to throw.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Stuff at them like the Tennessee fans did? I hope so.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You can't encourage that out there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Why can't you?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Wayne may have to wear a helmet.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you're telling me if your coach would have
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: left your team the way that he left his team,
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't want to throw something at him?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: You think I'd throw stuff at Mensah, Darian Mensah on
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the side? I wouldn't go that far with that. Really?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I might, yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: You'd be throwing him at Cristobal for stealing him. You'd
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: be trying to hit that big old meathead on Cristobal.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'd throw stuff at Bielma, though, if you can hit
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that big head.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: You win a prize. That's a big enough target. All right,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we come back. It's the wrap-up.
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  Speaker 4: Get you set for the Braves and Cubs tonight and
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  Speaker 1: NIL was a thing and a concept before all of this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: But college athletes. Duffel bags. Duffel bags, Jason. I want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure everyone heard that. Sorry, we all participated.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to claim that he didn't. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just. See? I never participated. I don't know what
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: y'all do at Duke. I don't know what y'all do
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: at Duke. But don't bring that over here to the breakfast, sir. Oh,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that was interesting. That was interesting. That is Jay Williams.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Duke's filth.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Duke's Jay Williams. I heard nothing there. I don't know
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: what that was. And that's like a panel there. Who
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: is the guy that he is trying to get in
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with him saying that we all participate in duffel bag
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: culture pre-NIL?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: The Davacon Sioux. Okay, it was Sioux.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I like to call him Donkey Kong Siouxbone. Remember when
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Cam did that? And then Sue wanted to kill him, man.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: By the way, I think that was my takeaway from
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: what Jay Williams said there. That was other teams, other
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: schools that were trying to get him away from Duke.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And they said, we'll drop the bag. And he said, no,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm already committed. I got the Brotherhood here. It's Coach K.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: You can't put a price on the Brotherhood. You can't
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: put a price on the Brotherhood. It was other schools
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: trying to swoop in there. That's what I got. Interesting. Interesting.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: He said we all participated, though. So does that mean
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he grabbed Duffel back? Or he grabbed him and handed
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: him right back?
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: No, he grabbed the money from the other schools, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: then said, I'm going to give this to charity.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: That's a good story to come up with right there
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: on the spot, Bo. I like that. I believe none
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of it. Anyway, I thought that was interesting.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: If you're a Duke fan or a Carolina fan, you
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: might find that interesting. By the way, we now look
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: at that era as the good era compared to what
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: we see now, right?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: We said before, I tweeted out before, the duffel bag
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: trench coat back alley era.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Isn't as bad as we thought it was, is it? Oh,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: my goodness. Now that it's up front, it's worse.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like fans just wanted to go back
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to just being the cheating, the money that you just
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: don't know about.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think some fans just
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: wanted to go back to that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: All right, coming up in sports tonight, Braves-Cubs rubber match
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: in the series. Braves rallied from 3-0 down last night.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Three different guys hit two-run homers last night. and the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Braves end up winning 6-3 last night. So rubber match.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: And as you said yesterday, it's a very good point.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Could be a postseason preview, you know?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: That's what Drake Baldwin said last night on TBS to
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: the crew. He said, look, it's fun to be here
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: and play these games, and it's a good matchup now
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: with the postseason coming up. So they could be eyeing
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: that as well from the Braves' point of view. Yes,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: that's going to be cool. We have a text from
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Tara saying, My girlfriend, Tara Masu, the Tara Bear.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's getting in here.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: She wanted to point out we were going over the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: best-looking coaches in college football, and that led to us saying... Yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Dabo got ranked third, believe it or not.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: We may have the best-looking coach in the NFL. She
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: pointed out, name a GM-coach combo that's better-looking than Dave
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Canales and Dan Morgan.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Ooh, ooh.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: And then she said, name a better NFL head coach...
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: gm morning radio show duo.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Somebody said earlier that they should do um uh morning
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: radio attracting this rankings and we would be brought back
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: to earth but to the texter i was like brought
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: back to earth we would acknowledge we should be near
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the bottom even in a profession that is known for
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: they use the phrase face for radio there's got to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: be some cities we like we gotta like biloxi or
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: something we gotta beat those.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Guys okay so maybe you're I do think we're.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Not at the bottom.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, Buffalo can't be that good looking, right?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: They've got to be playing like I am. And neither
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: can we, unfortunately.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Now, if you go to Miami and the— The Tanner
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: fellas in the morning, the Tanner guys, we could be
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: into trouble.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I thought you meant Rob Tanner. I thought you meant
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Tanner in the morning.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: If they go by, like, paleness of skin, I'm screwed.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Can I submit the Rams? But if they go by
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: good personalities, I can help us win. Can I submit
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the Rams? McVay and Les Snead. Les Snead's got very
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: underrated GM hair. Can I submit them? No. as maybe
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but that but she is on to something like that
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that we do have one of the upper echelon attractive
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: um yeah gm and coach by the way our panther
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: fans right now going off saying.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Who cares if our guys are good looking go out
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: and give up less than 59 points because it really
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter does it we can have pitt and clooney
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: a coach and gm but if they do that crap
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: again i don't give a damn Oh, man.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Well, Floor's pretty good in Green Bay. His GM, though,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: is Goon Goost. Yeah, however you say that name.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Goon Goost.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That's how you say his name. I don't know what
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he looks like. Can a guy named Goon Goost be
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: good looking?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this guy? Not bad, is he?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: He's sharp. Yeah, it's not bad. This dude says... Like
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: an attractive Brian Baldinger.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: This texter says, who the hell voted Dabo third most
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: attractive college football coach? Was that the National Blind Society?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got third, and Marcus Freeman was not in
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the top five, which is... Yeah, you got to question that.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: But we were questioning, why is Frank Signetti, too? Does
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: he look kind of dorky? Or Kirk Signetti?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Who's Frank? His brother? His dad, right? Or his dad?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I think so.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Kirk Signetti, why is he second? Somebody said Kurt Signetti.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: What did the guy say? Kurt Signetti looks like an
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: 80s movie principal. That was well played. Let's see what
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: else we have here on the text line. Yankee Meg
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: said earlier that the last bit has me not mad
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: at you guys for going after us fans yesterday. Who
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: knew all it took was a Dr. Perky radio bit?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I was just very amused.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: By the fact that Dr. Perky is the name of
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a generic soda brand.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Pepper version. We got one of the oddest text, Mac.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: We'll finish up with this one. You can't get weirder
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: than this. From your guy, Husky Pants, a.k.a. Husky Parts.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: You guys are pretty good looking. If you deliver food
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: to me naked, I would still eat it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, now. That is an honor. Let's find out. That
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is an honor. Let's put it to the test. Give
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: me the addy.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Finney's on his way. We got a text that says, Dr.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Perky is who you go to see if you're over
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: 50 and need a little boost.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised Mac hasn't had a sponsor named Dr.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Perky.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Perky.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: We call Dr.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Perky Kyle Bailey around here.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. What does that even mean? You are
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: so thirsty. Shut up. You're so thirsty for KB. You
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: got a woman now. You can't say these things. Although
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: we do, too.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: She's going to be jealous of him. This texter says,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: on the Dr. Pepper tenders at Slim Chickens, if you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: saute chicken and Dr. Pepper, add some cayenne. It's a delicious,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: sweet heat. That dude's the new sauce boss. That guy
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: takes over for Willie P, man. That's good stuff right there.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: We had a text earlier in the show back of
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: a driver that thinks he was being owned up by
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: a founder recently, so we'll investigate that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: That's very possible. Very possible. Oh, this is Formal Timothy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's fine, guys.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: They're just waiting until the offseason to trade XL for
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: draft capital and take Nick Harbour. Seriously, Nick Harbour should
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: be on the U.S. Olympic track team. No other team.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: No other team after South Carolina other than that. No,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: he'll be in the NFL. All right, we got to
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: get out of here, y'all. Appreciate it. If you listen
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to the podcast, listen in for Husky Parts and Dr.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Perky.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Those were two moments where I flat out could not
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: stop belly laughing. All right, we're out of here, man.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you had fun. We'll start turning our thoughts more
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: towards the Falcons game. We'll get an injury report today.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: We'll see how Jalen Coker's doing today. But in the meantime,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: keep it locked in to FNZ. Colin Hoggart coming up next.