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SIMPLY BITCOIN BANNED FROM YOUTUBE | 1061 · Simply Bitcoin

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  It's. All going to zero against
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  Bitcoin. It's going up.
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  Forever. You're against Bitcoin.
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  You're against freedom. As crypto is not among the top
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  1020 or 50 concerns of the American people, frankly, you
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  know, the industry's put out a lot of propaganda about
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  exaggerated numbers of Americans who care about crypto.
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  But the Fed has surveyed this, the Federal Reserve, and only
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  about 18,000,000 Americans have even used their own crypto.
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  And there are what, 340 million Americans?
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  So there's very, very few people who care about this.
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  And it's interesting, of the 88 percent of Americans who have
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  heard of crypto, a super majority, 75% of them have a
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  negative or hostile view of crypto.
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  And really importantly, if you're running for president,
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  there was this great survey that showed between 61 and 75% of
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  voters in six of the key swing states have a negative view of
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  crypto. So there's a lot of reasons, but
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  primarily the American people, the vast majority of them don't
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  care about it. Secondly, look, after 15 years
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  of effort and claims that crypto has some value or use, there's
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  still no legitimate, valid, socially acceptable use of
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  crypto. It's used by financial predators
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  and criminals worldwide. The least harmful use of crypto
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  at the moment is just wild speculation and gambling, and
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  even that is mostly resulting in wealth extraction, not wealth
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  creation. There's a third reason that Vice
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  President Harris should not bother with crypto, and that's
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  because it has a lawless business model.
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  It's basically takes it takes the position that the
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  securities, commodities and banking laws don't apply to it.
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  And Vice President Harris, when she was attorney general and
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  District Attorney, and even as vice president, has a long and
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  strong record of investor protection, consumer protection
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  and financial stability. She stood up to the banks and
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  she's leaning into that in the campaign now.
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  And she stood up to be a protector again.
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  She's against junk fees and protecting investors and
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  consumers. That's the opposite of crypto.
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  And finally, and importantly, crypto targets praise upon and
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  victimizes communities of color disproportionately.
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  Look, they're rightly skeptical for decades of discrimination
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  against them. They're skeptical of the
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  traditional financial system appropriately.
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  But that doesn't mean that the gimmick of crypto, which
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  actually is going to cost more money and make them lose money
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  more than the traditional financial system, and therefore
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  they're being victimized disproportionately.
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  And that's another reason why Vice President Harris should
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  stick to the core elements of the financial system and the
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  banking system, support them and support a growing economy that
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  creates wealth rather than extracts wealth, and stay away
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  from an industry that has no valid use, that's largely used
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  by criminals and predators, and disproportionately hurts
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  communities of color. Yeah, welcome to Simply Bitcoin
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  Live, your number one source for the peaceful Bitcoin revolution.
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  We cover breaking news, culture, romatic warfare.
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  We will be your guide through the separation of money and stay
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  there. You have another legacy media
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  interview where the guy basically is making the case as
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  to why certain communities and as to why there is absolutely no
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  net benefit from crypto or Bitcoin whatsoever and that we
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  should just continue trusting the traditional banking system,
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  the traditional banking system that put us millennials and Gen.
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  Z ers through the 2008 financial crisis, making homes completely
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  unaffordable. He's also advocating for Fiat.
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  You know what is more damaging? You know what he's talking about
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  theft. And he's talking about
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  essentially this wealth extraction.
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  You know what is the number one wealth extractor?
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  Inflation and currency debasement.
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  And you know how you can protect yourself from that?
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  No matter where you are around the world, no matter what
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  country you are, what, no matter what your religion is, no matter
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  what your skin color is, you can save and earn in Bitcoin.
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  And not only is your wealth going to be protected, your
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  purchasing power, your work and your time, but also you're going
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  to get progressively over time, progressively wealthier over
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  time because it is inherently a deflationary currency.
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  Because all those things that I just said, by the way, is
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  exactly why I believe we got banned on YouTube because those
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  things aren't socially acceptable.
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  We can't come to you guys and say, hey, listen guys, there is
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  a solution to this. It's not a political one.
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  Fix the money, fix the world. The reason that people are
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  hurting right now is not because of who's in the White House.
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  It is because of broken money. And if you stop the adoption of
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  Bitcoin, you're inherently extending the extending the life
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  of Fiat, which in my eyes is a lot.
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  It is, is is a form of slavery. You're using a money that is
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  consistently extracting time and energy like outside of your your
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  wealth right? Which is absolutely insane.
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  You see more of this in the developing world where they
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  can't hide it right? If it's a 2 to 3% inflation
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  rate, the level of theft is not high enough for people to
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  realize what is going on. But if you're living in with
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  most countries right, 10/15/20 percent inflation, then Bitcoin
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  is not a speculative asset. As that guy put it, Bitcoin
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  point is something that you need to use out of necessity.
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  It becomes the thing that determines whether you're able
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  to put food on the on the table for your family.
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  And if YouTube wants to ban us for harmful and dangerous
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  content, because that is our message, so be it.
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  They can't stop us. We'll stream from X and we'll
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  stream from Rumble and we'll post on the podcasting platforms
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  because that message, the, the fact that they're trying to stop
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  that message, you know what is more harmful and dangerous?
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  People not being aware that there is a money that could fix,
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  that could give them hope to save for a better future, not
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  only for them, but for the future generations that is more
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  harmful and dangerous. People not knowing the truth of
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  the feet of the scam of Fiat currency so they can gaslight us
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  all they want, They can censor us all they want, but the truth
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  finds a way. And here it's simply Bitcoin.
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  We won't stop until every single person around the world knows
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  the truth about the money that they're using and knows the
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  truth about Bitcoin. Anyways, to start the show, I do
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  want to bring up our guests. For today, we have Trey from the
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  progressive case of Bitcoin. I mean, Trey, I want to get
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  your, your initial reaction to that cold opening.
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  Man, that guy was making a lot of statements that, in my
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  opinion, were completely nonsensical.
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  Yeah, I mean, he made a pretty strong argument for Bitcoin also
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  because a lot of what people conflate and we we know this and
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  people listening know this is a lot of crypto is full of scams.
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  He talked about the dangerous and scammy environment of crypto
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  that a lot of people don't know that they're getting into that
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  maybe some people get into a little bit.
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  I, I know I did. I came into Bitcoin and saw ETH
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  and saw these other things for a couple of months and then dove
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  right back into Bitcoin as that safe haven asset.
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  That was simpler. So a lot of the things he's
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  talking about is actually what exists in the crypto landscape,
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  but it is not the same of Bitcoin.
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  There's no CEO, there's no company, there's no pre mine,
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  all of these things. So he, of course, he's going to
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  conflate Bitcoin with that and it's absolutely completely
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  bullshit. And I'm like you, where I get
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  very, very frustrated that these lies keep getting perpetuated by
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  people and, and people are hearing this and not looking
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  into Bitcoin and just watching their, their savings.
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  And you mentioned millennials, and I'm a millennial as well in
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  my low 30s, people being unable to, to, you know, pay for help,
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  buy a house, unable to keep up with rent, unable to do all
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  these things. And it's not getting better.
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  But Bitcoin is a chance to actually help them.
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  So you're saying the one thing that can actually help people
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  because you won't help people, government XYZ.
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  You don't want people to look into that.
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  That's, that's pretty crazy to me.
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  I I agree with that. Yeah, it's, it's, it's
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  absolutely insane. It's it's insane.
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  It's like, you know, like don't look at let's keep trying more
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  of the same thing, right? Like keep trusting us.
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  Like this is inherently why Bitcoin was created.
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  It was in the genesis block, right?
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  It says Chancellor on the brink of the 2nd bailout for banks.
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  But Satoshi knew that they were going to continue to debase the
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  currency, therefore steal from people's savings, specifically
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  the lower and middle classes that don't have the means to
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  save in assets, Therefore they don't benefit from asset
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  inflation, right. This is what Bitcoin was created
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  for. And the fact that we are getting
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  de platformed the fact that we can't tell the truth about money
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  is a crazy world to me. And the fact that that is
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  acceptable talk like what he was saying was dangerous and
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  harmful. I'll say that because like it's
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  it's it's it's it's misinformation like he's not
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  talking the facts in my opinion, right, that is acceptable.
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  But if we if we tell the truth about money, you know, we get
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  deplatformed. And by the way, we weren't the
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  only Bitcoin YouTube channel to get deplatformed.
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  Bitcoin Magazine has been deplatformed, Swan Bitcoin has
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  been deplatformed. BTC Sessions has been
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  deplatformed. Crypto news alerts have been
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  deplatformed. This is something that is
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  consistently happening on YouTube.
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  There's absolutely no recourse. They don't give you any types of
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  warnings, no strikes. We never got one community
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  guideline strike or no warning. All of a sudden one day in the
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  middle of the stream, cut the cord and the they just send you
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  an e-mail and they say your content is harmful and
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  dangerous. Let me know.
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  Let me know guys is is what we say harmful and dangerous?
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  May be harmful and dangerous to central bankers and the
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  proponents of Fiat for sure. But I don't know man.
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  Anyways, I do want to bring my Co host because he was there
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  with me in the fences when this happened.
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  Bro that, that was freaking crazy, dude, I got to say.
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  Yeah, Well, hey, boys and girls out there.
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  We made it. I kind of consider this a badge
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  of honor. I think it just goes to prove
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  that what we've been doing here at Simply Bitcoin and rather at
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  large as Bitcoin content creators and Bitcoin supporters
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  and people that believe in Bitcoin, it actually just goes
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  to prove that Bitcoin is most likely, if not the only way to
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  actually effectuate change. So it is kind of a badge of
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  honor. Obviously, it hurts a lot like
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  YouTube was, was prime real estate and we really did our
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  best to ensure that we were staying on YouTube as much as
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  possible because if you don't exist on YouTube, you basically
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  don't exist on the Internet. But with that being said, I do
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  want to say and give a personal shout out to every single one of
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  you guys on Rumble. We have almost 400 of you guys
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  live with us right now. Absolutely incredible.
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  Really appreciate you guys following us.
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  And on the flip side, for some reason, Twitter is kind of
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  lagging on us. So the Twitter video, it should
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  be good for playback, but it's looking like it's lagging.
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  I don't, I don't know what's going on over there, Elon, but
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  it's it's having some issues. So if you are on Twitter and
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  this message gets through, come join us on Rumble.
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  The stream's going perfectly. Hopefully we can iron all this
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  stuff out tomorrow, maybe. See, there's just too many
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  people on the stuff now that it's it's acting up.
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  But man, Nico, what a crazy weekend.
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  Here we are. The show goes on.
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  Nothing's going to change here. We're going to keep doing the
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  show, keep going live on Rumble. We're still in limbo.
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  We'll probably get into all of that later.
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  But we still have no clue what's going on with YouTube.
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  But shout out to everyone that followed us on to Rumble.
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  And you know, we're going to hang out on Rumble, hang out on
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  Twitter until we know exactly what's going on.
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  Yeah, we're going to. We're going to talk about all
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  that today. We're going to talk about the
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  importance of free speech, which has been a central theme in
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  simply Bitcoin. We've been talking about free
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  speech, the importance of free speech, especially in the
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  upcoming revolution, which is the separation of money and
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  state and the this is narrative trench warfare on the
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  battlegrounds of the Internet. The, the, the way that wars are
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  fought today is it's not kinetic.
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  It's winning over hearts and minds of individuals.
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  And like I said, it's not left versus right.
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  It's not red versus blue. That's what we've been saying
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  for many, many years now. It is the party of orange, the
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  party of feet, the the party of feet, the party of the party of
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  orange, the party of freedom, Bitcoin, opportunity,
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  prosperity, freedom, all hope versus the party of Fiat, the
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  party of nihilism, endless wars, poverty, despair.
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  That's really what is happening right now and most people on
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  party Fiat don't know they're on party Fiat, right?
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  They're coerced in and they're manipulated into believing that
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  for some reason or the other #1 money has to lose purchasing
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  power in order to function and #2 you somehow have to become a
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  part time investor just to maintain your purchasing power.
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  That has been the biggest psyop pulled on humanity and at simply
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  Bitcoin are literally our job is to wake people up from that
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  reality and make them. I understand that the American
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  dream is not only alive and well now it's been exported all
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  around the world anywhere. It doesn't matter where you are,
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  if you adopt A Bitcoin standard, life gets progressively cheaper
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  for you over time. And if we get deplatformed and
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  we get censored and we get silenced for pushing on that
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  All right everybody, at the time of recording the Bitcoin price
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  is $63,740 sats per dollar 1569 block height 858,540 blocks to
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  having 191,460 having estimate March 25th 2028 Total lightning
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  network capacity 4875 BTC capacity value 310 million U.S.
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  dollars realized monetary inflation 1.42% market
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  capitalization 1.26 trillion Bitcoin versus gold market cap
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  7.24%. We are just getting the party
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  started. Anyways, I do want to talk about
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  David Sacks. David Sacks, kind of a silic
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  Silicon Valley guy and he had a crazy prediction.
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  He said one down, 3 to go. So he, you know, marked off
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  TikTok. Remember, TikTok was owned by a
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  Chinese government, by the Chinese government.
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  Then they passed a bill that would essentially force the sale
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  of TikTok to an American corporation.
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  Now, this wasn't ticked off at the time, but with the arrest of
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  the Telegram CEO, we're we're going to get to why that
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  happened in a second. You know, you can now, you know,
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  cross that off and really what you have left is the only two
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  platforms or simply is available other than the podcasting
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  platforms, of course. By the way.
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  So if you want to listen to the audio only version of this show,
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  you can find us on Spotify, anchor a Google podcast, Apple
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  podcast, your favorite podcasting platform were there.
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  But anyway. So check off TikTok, check off
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  Telegram, check off X potentially next, and then check
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  off Rumble. It's it's so crazy.
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  We're at this point and we're going to talk about Noster a
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  little bit later and the importance of Noster because
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  they could only get away with this with proto, with platforms,
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  because they're centralized. But with protocols like Bitcoin,
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  like Noster, you can't de platform anyone.
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  And when you can't de platform anyone, their speech lives on.
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  And if their speech lives on and you can't censor it, you're
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  going to have to be forced to debate it.
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  And that's the whole. Point the reason that they're
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  censoring is because they don't want to debate their ideas they
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  don't want to debate their ideas.
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  They don't believe that they can debate their ideas with truth.
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  So they just make them go away right.
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  Part of the reason that I believe simply got the
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  platformed on YouTube anyways so let's get to the news story of
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  today Telegram messaging app CEO Derov arrested in French French
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  media in France French media say goes on to say Pavar Durov I'm
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  sorry if I pronounced that incorrectly.
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  Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging app was arrested at a
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  French airport at a Paris airport on Saturday evening.
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  Telegram particularly influential in Russia, Ukraine
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  and the republics of the format Union the Soviet Union is ranked
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  as one of the major social media platforms after Facebook,
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  YouTube, WhatsApp and Instagram, TikTok and WeChat.
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  It aims to hit 1 billion users in the next year.
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  Based in Dubai, Telegram was founded by Russian Bor Durov.
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  He left Russia in 2014 after refusing to comply with
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  government demands to shut down opposition communities.
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  Dorav was travelling abroad, his private jet TF One said on its
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  website, adding he had been targeted by an arrest warrant in
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  France as part of a preliminary police investigation.
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  TF, TF1 and BFM both said the investigation focused on lack of
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  moderators on Telegram and that police considered that this
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  situation allowed criminal activity to go on undeterred on
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  the messaging app. So he didn't do anything, but
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  because he didn't censor for the national security apparatus the
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  BLOB, right? They literally put them in a box
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  that is insane. And if you guys still think this
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  is crazy and whatever, here's a bit from Paver on on on Tucker
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  Carlson and take take a look at this story.
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  We got too much attention from the the FBI, the security
• 22:30
  agencies, wherever we came to the US.
• 22:33
  So to give you an example, last time I was in the USI brought an
• 22:37
  engineer that is working for behind my back.
• 22:45
  By cybersecurity. By cybersecurity occult.
• 22:48
  The US government should to hire your engineer.
• 22:50
  That's my understanding, that's what he told me.
• 22:52
  To write code for them or to break into Telegram?
• 22:55
  They were curious to learn which open source libraries are
• 22:59
  integrated to the Telegrams app, you know, on the client side.
• 23:02
  And they were trying to persuade him to use certain open source
• 23:07
  tools that he would then integrate into the Telegrams
• 23:10
  code that in my understanding would serve as backdoors.
• 23:14
  Would allow the US government to spy on people who use Telegram.
• 23:17
  The US government, or maybe any other government, because the
• 23:19
  backdoor is a backdoor regardless of who is using it.
• 23:21
  That's right. And, and you're, that's a little
• 23:25
  surprising to hear. Maybe it's not surprising.
• 23:26
  It's, it's offensive. You're confident that happened?
• 23:30
  Yes, there is no reason for my engineer to make up the stories.
• 23:34
  Also, because I personally experienced similar pressure in
• 23:38
  the US, whenever I would go to the US, I would have two FBI
• 23:42
  agents greeting me at the airport, asking questions.
• 23:44
  One time I was having my breakfast at 9:00 AM and the FBI
• 23:50
  showed up at my house that I was renting.
• 23:53
  And that was quite surprising. And I thought, you know, we're
• 23:57
  getting too much attention here. It's probably not the best
• 24:00
  environment to run. Why would the had you committed
• 24:02
  a crime? No, they were interested to
• 24:05
  learn more about Telegram. They knew I.
• 24:08
  He never committed a crime, right?
• 24:11
  Let's take a look at the 4th Amendment.
• 24:13
  The Constitution, through the 4th Amendment, protects people
• 24:15
  from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government.
• 24:19
  So essentially what happened was that because they can't do this
• 24:26
  in the United States because of the, you know, constitutional
• 24:29
  protections, they're using Europe as a proxy, which is
• 24:34
  absolutely insane, by the way, not only to go after Telegram,
• 24:38
  but to go after X. And you know where the funding
• 24:40
  is coming from the US government, right?
• 24:43
  Can't really say that on, you know, on YouTube.
• 24:46
  But now that we're on Rumble and X, right, we can be a little bit
• 24:49
  more open about this stuff. By the way, if you still think
• 24:52
  that I'm a nut job and that I'm crazy, take a look at RFK.
• 24:56
  By the way, he had a historic speech this weekend talking
• 25:00
  about exactly what we've been talking about on Simply Bitcoin.
• 25:03
  On today's episode, let's check out our let's check out what RFK
• 25:06
  has to say. I was a ferocious critic of many
• 25:10
  of the policies during his first administration and and there are
• 25:14
  still issues and approaches upon which we continue to have very
• 25:23
  serious differences. But we are aligned with each
• 25:26
  other on other key issues like ending the forever wars, ending
• 25:31
  the childhood disease epidemics, securing the border, protecting
• 25:35
  freedom of speech, unraveling the corporate capture of our
• 25:39
  regulatory agencies, getting the US intelligence agencies out of
• 25:44
  the business of propagandizing and censoring and surveilling
• 25:48
  Americans, and interfering with our elections.
• 25:53
  Like, what is the role of government?
• 25:55
  Like, why should they be able to do that?
• 25:58
  That ain't democracy here. And again, this is we've been
• 26:04
  making the case on simply for a while now, right?
• 26:06
  You heard the interview with the Telegram founder with Tucker.
• 26:10
  Now you have RFK literally saying, quote, getting the US
• 26:14
  intelligence agencies out of the business of propagandizing,
• 26:19
  censoring and surveilling Americans, right?
• 26:23
  And what's really crazy about this, and because this keeps
• 26:27
  heating up, is here's the, you know, the CEO of Rumble, which
• 26:32
  we're streaming at you from right now, and X, because I'm a
• 26:35
  little late to this, but for good reason, I've just safely
• 26:38
  departed from Europe. France has threatened Rumble and
• 26:41
  now they have crossed the red line by arresting Telegram CEO.
• 26:45
  Rumble will not stand for this behavior and will use every
• 26:47
  legal means available to fight for freedom of expression, a
• 26:51
  universal human right. And we are currently fighting in
• 26:53
  the courts of France, and we hope for the Telegram CEO
• 26:57
  immediate release. Now, what's really crazy about
• 27:00
  this is we've seen the gas lighting.
• 27:03
  We've seen the gas lighting, but now we're seeing the gas
• 27:07
  lighting literally come from the President of France.
• 27:11
  I have read false information here regarding France following
• 27:15
  the rest of Paul Derov. France is more than anything
• 27:19
  attached to freedom of expression and communication, to
• 27:23
  innovation and to the spirit of enterprise.
• 27:26
  Like it, it. This kind of reminds me of like
• 27:29
  a lot of the wording that was used when we were de platformed.
• 27:33
  A very similar wording like what you're saying is harmful and
• 27:37
  dangerous. We, you can't, we have to be
• 27:40
  able to moderate your, your platform.
• 27:42
  We have to be able to censor certain types of speech, which
• 27:46
  again is completely against the 1st Amendment.
• 27:49
  This came out, by the way, when when Elon acquired Twitter and
• 27:54
  the Twitter Files were released, it came out that the US that
• 27:58
  that parts of the federal government were working with
• 28:01
  Twitter to censor the speech of Americans, which again is
• 28:05
  against the 1st Amendment. Why do we live in a country
• 28:09
  where the intelligence agencies feel like they have the know how
• 28:16
  to censor certain types of speech coming from American
• 28:20
  citizens and not my words, RF, KS words?
• 28:23
  They feel like they should have the ability to interfere with
• 28:27
  elections. Isn't that like the definition
• 28:31
  of being anti democratic? Where's the accountability
• 28:35
  there? It's like, it's almost as if
• 28:37
  they're running the government and we are not.
• 28:40
  Now, there's a crazy theme that happened this weekend.
• 28:43
  And honestly, I find this like, in a way an honor, which is RFK
• 28:49
  Junior gives a historic speech on censorship.
• 28:51
  Highly suggest you guys watching the speech.
• 28:53
  By the way, he also half endorsed Trump.
• 28:58
  He endorsed Trump in the battleground states.
• 29:02
  In the non competitive states he's still on the ballot.
• 29:06
  Right? But he endorsed Trump.
• 29:08
  RFK and Trump are both pro Bitcoin candidates.
• 29:12
  The Telegram founder was arrested for not censoring his
• 29:17
  platform and of course Simply Bitcoin was censored and the
• 29:22
  platform on YouTube. And again, what are the themes
• 29:25
  of Simply Bitcoin? What do we talk about all the
• 29:27
  time? Because what is the root cause
• 29:30
  of a lot of this government dysfunction?
• 29:33
  It's the government's unique ability to create money for free
• 29:37
  that everyone else has to work for.
• 29:39
  That is the root cause of all of this capital misallocation and
• 29:45
  blatant, you can call it evil. And the reason for that is their
• 29:49
  source of funding is not direct taxation.
• 29:53
  If it was direct taxation, there would be a revolt on the streets
• 29:57
  the next day when the government tried to convince the American
• 30:00
  people that they were going to invade another country.
• 30:04
  But because their form of revenue, their form, the the way
• 30:08
  that they're able to fund all this is the money printer.
• 30:11
  They don't have to. They're not accountable to
• 30:14
  anybody. They have their they can
• 30:16
  literally create money out of thin air and use that money to
• 30:20
  pay for whatever they want. The problem is that, first of
• 30:25
  all, they're not allocating this money to fix a lot of the issues
• 30:28
  in the US. There was trillions of dollars
• 30:31
  spent in the war in Iraq that could have been used for
• 30:34
  healthcare, could have been used for education.
• 30:35
  No, no, no, they used it for a war, right?
• 30:38
  And then not only that, right, that every time they print
• 30:42
  money, it debases the currency that debases the wealth of the
• 30:47
  people using that money, earning in that money and saving in that
• 30:51
  money. So it's it's hurting two things
• 30:53
  on two separate things. We have to address the root
• 30:57
  issue here. It's not just about electing
• 31:00
  someone and getting someone in the in the White House.
• 31:02
  It's about the separation of money and state because that is
• 31:06
  what is going to fix all of this insanity.
• 31:09
  It was Jeff Booth that originally came on the show, and
• 31:12
  he described why the system has to function this way.
• 31:17
  Because the system is based on theft.
• 31:19
  It requires coercion in order for people to go along with it.
• 31:24
  And that is in stark contrast to how the Bitcoin system works,
• 31:29
  which is a system of incentives where everybody mutually
• 31:33
  benefits equally, making it the most equitable, inclusive money
• 31:37
  the world has ever seen. Anyways, I'm going to pass it on
• 31:40
  to Trey. Went on a little bit of a
• 31:42
  ramble. I'm sorry guys, I'm a little bit
• 31:44
  heated today. Trey, what are your thoughts on
• 31:45
  all this? Well, I'm honored to be on, on
• 31:48
  your first post band show. So I'm, I'm excited for that
• 31:52
  reason. I, I agree with you and I think
• 31:54
  you know, my role at the progressive Bitcoin or being
• 31:57
  from the left. All of this stuff is just to
• 32:00
  remind people, especially progressives on the left, that
• 32:02
  they find themselves listening to these narratives or being
• 32:05
  more OK with bands against freedom of speech is the notion
• 32:08
  that if they can do it against someone you don't like, they can
• 32:11
  do it against you. This is why everyone should be
• 32:14
  pro freedom of speech, especially in the US.
• 32:16
  It's, it's baked into us. At least I feel like my
• 32:18
  generation from a younger age and those of us that grew up
• 32:21
  around 911, Patriot Act, all of these different things that kind
• 32:24
  of fuel me and my work. It is always surprising to see
• 32:27
  so many people not caring about these different issues.
• 32:30
  So for me it's it's absolutely insane.
• 32:32
  I think another thing you didn't mention, but might be a part of
• 32:36
  this, again, completely speculative, but just in terms
• 32:38
  of these bans, these deep platforms of you guys and maybe
• 32:41
  others to come. We're getting closer to the
• 32:43
  election, right? They like things to go smooth,
• 32:45
  to go a little more focused and streamlined into any election,
• 32:50
  whatever the case may be, right? Maybe that's a bit of my
• 32:53
  conspiracy brain here, but you know, we're getting closer and
• 32:56
  closer to the election. So doing that.
• 32:58
  But I, I think the Telegram story, I, I think that it's
• 33:00
  multifaceted. There's so many different
• 33:01
  details that I will just say, I feel like we'll, we'll come out.
• 33:04
  There's a lot of different things at play.
• 33:07
  He's a Russian dissident. So we don't know if that's at
• 33:09
  play, right? If, if Russia's involved, if
• 33:12
  any, anything else is going on behind the scenes.
• 33:14
  But regardless, what we do know is that there is an attack on
• 33:18
  free speech. There is an attack on open
• 33:19
  source development. And these things, regardless of
• 33:22
  this specific case and other things that may come out that
• 33:24
  maybe we don't even know yet that are like criminal acts,
• 33:27
  right? But the criminal act should not
• 33:29
  be. The Telegram is running as a
• 33:31
  platform that free speech exists.
• 33:33
  These are things that I would not want to live in a world that
• 33:36
  is dystopian in, in that way. And that's what I feel like
• 33:39
  we're heading towards is that kind of world.
• 33:42
  And I want to try to do everything I can to, to
• 33:44
  encourage people to not buy into that, to understand why privacy
• 33:48
  and freedom of speech and these things that us Bitcoiners go on
• 33:50
  and on about are super, super important.
• 33:52
  It's not a political thing. It's not a political party
• 33:55
  notion. I mean, I, I wrote an article
• 33:57
  like a year ago about Noster and how I was fearful that free
• 34:01
  speech would continue to be politicized, right?
• 34:03
  And some people have done that right, said, oh, well, free
• 34:06
  speech is for Trump and Elon use that word a lot or whatever.
• 34:09
  And I'm on the left, right. And it's like that can be
• 34:11
  flipped at any point. We know this with Bitcoin and
• 34:14
  resistance money. Same thing with free speech.
• 34:16
  So it's really, it's really madding.
• 34:18
  It's really hard not to just scream everyday about this, but
• 34:22
  taking a, a long term approach to this and just trying to
• 34:24
  continue like doing what you guys are doing, educating
• 34:26
  people. We try to do the same thing at
• 34:28
  the Progressive Bitcoin. We're just educating everyday
• 34:30
  people about what's going on and speaking to them about their
• 34:34
  values in a way they can understand why privacy is
• 34:36
  important, why free speech is important, but absolutely
• 34:39
  bananas. A lot of breaking news is
• 34:41
  probably going to keep happening this week.
• 34:43
  Absolutely, absolutely, man. It's it's you know, speech is
• 34:46
  under attack. Also guys like my heart is
• 34:49
  melting 500 live viewers on Rumble.
• 34:52
  That is like a really, really, really, really good show on
• 34:56
  YouTube. So I can't emphasize, I can't,
• 35:00
  you know, I can't thank the community enough.
• 35:02
  Really appreciate you guys and we love you guys for showing us
• 35:05
  this support. It really means a lot to me and
• 35:08
  Opti especially, you know, four years of just grinding out and
• 35:12
  building this channel, man. And for you guys to show us this
• 35:15
  type of support, I'm, I'm absolutely speechless.
• 35:19
  So, and of course, everyone watching us on Twitter, guys, I
• 35:23
  keep getting the question, how do you support the, the channel
• 35:25
  support our sponsors. That's, that's really what, what
• 35:28
  keeps on the lights pays the bills.
• 35:30
  So yeah, Opti, I mean, dude, this is pretty crazy, bro.
• 35:34
  Like, I, I don't know what to say, dude, this is I'm
• 35:36
  speechless right now. I I can't believe it bro.
• 35:39
  Yeah, Well, first of all, of course, I, I also want to thank
• 35:43
  you guys out there on Rumble. And of course the Twitter for
• 35:46
  some reason is acting up today, but we'll figure it out.
• 35:49
  But a huge, huge appreciation. For you guys, it's working.
• 35:52
  For me I'm it's like. Lagging, it's lagging on my end,
• 35:55
  so I don't know what's going on, but it should be working and
• 35:58
  nothing's changed for our Twitter video, but there is some
• 36:01
  issues and people are hitting me up about it.
• 36:02
  But anyways, anyways, I do just want to say a big thank you to
• 36:05
  everyone hanging out with us on Rumble.
• 36:06
  You know, 500 live viewers on Rumble is just incredible for
• 36:10
  us. It, it means the world to us
• 36:11
  really. Like we, we're in Dallas all
• 36:13
  weekend and today we're like, OK, we're we're not going away
• 36:17
  yet. But anyways, going back to the
• 36:20
  Telegram news and of course, kind of talking and touching on
• 36:23
  our deplatforming. The first thing that stuck out
• 36:26
  to me while you were reading that news story, Nico, is that
• 36:30
  they literally used the same framing for arresting the
• 36:35
  Samurai devs. They literally use verbatim the
• 36:38
  same words that they're using to arrest the Samurai devs as they
• 36:42
  did to arrest Pavel, or forgive me.
• 36:46
  So as you can tell, this is an attack on free speech, us
• 36:50
  getting the platform, Telegram CEO getting arrested.
• 36:53
  And then of course, I think the, the biggest glaring example of
• 36:57
  this is the RFK speech that he dropped on Friday, literally the
• 37:01
  day we got banned from YouTube. It's like there's too many
• 37:05
  coincidences for it this to just be like, you know, not not, you
• 37:09
  know, maybe we're on Rumble now. Grand conspiracy against free
• 37:13
  speech. As I say all the time on the
• 37:15
  show, remember what Fiat money means.
• 37:17
  Remember what Fiat means. Oh, breaking breaking news,
• 37:21
  breaking news we just got Adm from from YouTube.
• 37:26
  It seems like they're going to assign a specialist team to
• 37:30
  further look into the channel. And this was 5 minutes into, you
• 37:36
  know, us going live on Rumble. So I do want to give a shout out
• 37:40
  to YouTube for getting back to us.
• 37:42
  But anyways, we'll see what happens.
• 37:45
  We'll see what happens. All right.
• 37:46
  Well, guys, wait, wait. Let me, let me keep going.
• 37:49
  Let me keep going real quick because I think there is some
• 37:51
  points to be said. Of course, all these dots really
• 37:56
  go to show that the powers that be are terrified about every
• 38:00
  single one of us actually having peer-to-peer communication and
• 38:03
  trying to get to the truth when the media apparatus has been
• 38:07
  exposed for the lies. Not just from, you know, small
• 38:10
  Youtubers or you know, crypto Twitter or Bitcoin Twitter.
• 38:13
  People like really big names are saying exactly the same things
• 38:17
  we've been saying for a while. And so all the coincidences just
• 38:20
  adding up is like there's a very deliberate attack on free speech
• 38:24
  right now, which is why it's more important than ever for
• 38:27
  every single one of us as bitcoiners, as people that
• 38:29
  believe in the truth, as people that want to, you know, quote UN
• 38:33
  quote, wake people up and show them that, hey, everything is
• 38:36
  not exactly as it's portrayed to be.
• 38:38
  These are the things happening right now.
• 38:40
  They don't want you conversating about this stuff and they're
• 38:43
  freaking out about it. So as much as this might be a
• 38:46
  badge of honor for us, and of course maybe we'll get back on
• 38:49
  YouTube, it just goes to show that when that the media
• 38:53
  apparatus, when the powers that be get backed into a corner,
• 38:56
  they lash out and they do crazy things and they're trying to
• 39:00
  smash down on, you know, dissident information, calling
• 39:04
  it misinformation, fake news and all that stuff.
• 39:06
  So it's never been more important to continue to speak
• 39:09
  about Bitcoin, to continue to speak about freedom of speech,
• 39:12
  to continue to speak about alternative platforms so that
• 39:16
  this information can get spread and more people wake up to what
• 39:19
  is happening right now. This is our duty here, not just
• 39:22
  that simply Bitcoin, but as you guys that watch this show, you
• 39:25
  guys that are Bitcoiners to continue to spread this
• 39:28
  information and we'll route around it and people will wake
• 39:31
  up. And it just goes to show that,
• 39:33
  hey, what we say actually can change things.
• 39:38
  And This is why they're attacking a lot of the stuff
• 39:40
  that we cover on this show all the time.
• 39:42
  If, if what we were saying didn't actually change things,
• 39:45
  our channel would probably still be alive.
• 39:47
  There's still hope. We still have a heartbeat, but
• 39:50
  we'll see what happens. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 39:54
  All right, everybody. Well, the story was gonna be
• 39:56
  about, you know how we got bands on YouTube?
• 39:59
  We can still run it, Still run it.
• 40:01
  Let's do it. All right, everybody.
• 40:03
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  a family friendly show. That was a bad joke, all right,
• 41:36
  allegedly. So this is what happened to us
• 41:39
  everybody. It was a kind of crazy
• 41:43
  termination, to be honest with you, very, very abrupt.
• 41:48
  But I found this in my e-mail and essentially the live stream
• 41:52
  was cut midstream and the live stream was cut midstream.
• 41:59
  And you know, obviously it really, really hurt optimized
• 42:03
  feelings and specifically for the reason that was listed,
• 42:07
  which was harmful and dangerous policy.
• 42:10
  I think it's harmful and dangerous not to talk about
• 42:13
  inflation, not to talk about currency debasement.
• 42:17
  And what I said in the beginning of the show is like, if we are
• 42:24
  to be deplatforms because we cannot continue to push forward
• 42:29
  the message of Bitcoin, as painful as it would be for us as
• 42:35
  a company, so be it because Bitcoin is that important.
• 42:40
  Anyways, this was the again, we were cut midstream on Friday.
• 42:44
  We got this e-mail, harmful and dangerous.
• 42:47
  We, we the YouTube found content, reviewed our content
• 42:52
  and found severe and repeated violations of harmful and
• 42:56
  dangerous policy. So I don't know if this was AII
• 43:00
  don't know what happened there, but it was definitely it was
• 43:05
  definitely very, very alerting to us.
• 43:07
  Now shout out to the Bitcoin community.
• 43:10
  It's almost made me cry the amount of attention and love,
• 43:13
  including from Michael Saylor, Lynn Alden, a retweet from
• 43:17
  Bitcoin magazine, James Lavish, Lawrence LaPorte, like just
• 43:22
  insane. And I, I, I appreciate the
• 43:24
  support because this is what got the attention of the team,
• 43:29
  YouTube Twitter handle and you know, they were able to reach
• 43:34
  out to us. So guys, I can't emphasize that
• 43:37
  enough. And it also shows the power of
• 43:40
  our movement when we stick together.
• 43:42
  By the way, I am very, very aware that we are in a
• 43:49
  privileged position, Simply Bitcoin, not only from my
• 43:53
  personal handle and from the Simply Bitcoin handle where we
• 43:57
  have the reach to be able to do this, but I've seen this happen
• 44:01
  to other Bitcoin channels that haven't had, don't have the
• 44:07
  privilege that we have the reach that we have.
• 44:09
  Therefore they don't get as much attention.
• 44:13
  It doesn't matter how big the size of the how big the that
• 44:18
  Bitcoin content creator is, how small he is, how small his
• 44:23
  following is. If this happens to them buying
• 44:27
  together as a community and call attention to call attention to
• 44:31
  it because this is how we fight back.
• 44:34
  This is how we get our this is how we make our voices heard.
• 44:38
  We have to come together as a community every single time this
• 44:44
  happens to us. That's the way that's how it
• 44:46
  works. And the community came through
• 44:49
  for us and we will be forever grateful for you guys coming
• 44:52
  through for us. Because the amount of love and
• 44:55
  the amount of support and the amount of appreciation has made
• 44:58
  this weekend incredibly a lot easier for us than it would have
• 45:03
  been if we were kind of left in the dark, which could have been
• 45:06
  the case for much smaller creators.
• 45:09
  So I just want to emphasize that as well.
• 45:12
  And another thing that I want to emphasize specifically as it
• 45:16
  relates to the Telegram and to the Rumble and all of the
• 45:19
  censorship is these words written by Naimbu Kelly.
• 45:24
  They are. This is an article he wrote for
• 45:26
  Bitcoin magazine called Don't Drink the Elites kool-aid.
• 45:30
  And in that magazine he is talking about how the media
• 45:36
  reacted to Bitcoin becoming legal tender in El Salvador.
• 45:44
  And this is what they said. They're willing to fight, lie,
• 45:47
  smear, destroy, censor, confiscate, print and do
• 45:50
  whatever it takes to maintain and increase their control over
• 45:53
  the truth and everything and everyone.
• 45:57
  And I also want to mention again other YouTube channels that this
• 46:01
  has happened to. This includes Bitcoin Magazine,
• 46:04
  Swan Bitcoin, Bitcoin University, BTC Sessions and the
• 46:08
  latest Simply Bitcoin. Also includes crypto news alerts
• 46:12
  and includes a lot of other non Bitcoin only channels.
• 46:16
  So it's important that we come together as a community when
• 46:20
  these types of things happen. Now my theory for all of this is
• 46:25
  where we are living, what moment in time we are in and the moment
• 46:29
  in time we are in is what I call the great disintermediation.
• 46:34
  So what does that mean? What does the great
• 46:36
  disintermediation mean? It means that the Internet has
• 46:40
  fundamentally changed the way that society communicates with
• 46:44
  each other. All of a sudden you have mass
• 46:47
  scale, peer-to-peer communications versus before you
• 46:51
  had a handful of legacy media outlets and news outlets and
• 46:56
  they were able to control the narrative, so to speak.
• 47:00
  What do I mean by that? I mean that when the American
• 47:04
  public was sold on the war in Iraq back in the 2000s, that
• 47:10
  message was sold via The New York Times.
• 47:12
  And it was later revealed, you know, a couple years later, that
• 47:16
  that message actually came from certain agencies within the US
• 47:20
  government. Now that social media is a
• 47:23
  thing, one of the most powerful quotes, and I believe it came
• 47:26
  from Jack Posobik specifically, was his he said if social media
• 47:30
  existed back in 2003, the war in Iraq would have never happened.
• 47:36
  Never have governments had to deal with millions upon millions
• 47:41
  of people communicating directly, peer-to-peer before.
• 47:45
  If there was a message that had to be propagated, it went
• 47:49
  through a handful of information gatekeepers.
• 47:52
  That is not the case anymore. I'm, I'm talking to you guys
• 47:55
  directly. I'm making my voice heard.
• 47:57
  Right before there was a handful of newspapers and maybe 100 or
• 48:01
  so channels. When DIRECTV was a thing, maybe
• 48:03
  it was like 300 channels. Now there is literally millions
• 48:08
  of channels. Anybody could make their voice
• 48:11
  heard. And this is where we are in the
• 48:13
  great disintermediation. Now.
• 48:16
  You think what is happening with censorship right now is bad.
• 48:21
  Where we're heading towards is the disintermediation of money,
• 48:25
  and that is still in its infancy.
• 48:28
  And I'm telling you that this one is going to be a lot more
• 48:34
  tumultuous. And the reason for that is very
• 48:37
  simple. That is their source of power,
• 48:41
  the ability to create money for free that everyone else has to
• 48:45
  work for. And Bitcoin is a fundamental
• 48:49
  alternative to that. And if not everyone is using
• 48:53
  Fiat money, if people are using alternative sources of money,
• 48:56
  therefore when the government it, it's kind of useless to just
• 48:59
  print money if no one else is using it.
• 49:02
  It's useful when you print money and everyone else is using it.
• 49:05
  But as more and more people escape that system of inflation
• 49:10
  and debasement and censorship and confiscation, and they come
• 49:14
  to a system of hope, deflation, opportunity, censorship,
• 49:19
  resistance, inclusivity, then if they don't control information,
• 49:26
  it's going to be very, very difficult for them to convince
• 49:29
  people to use a money that steals from them.
• 49:34
  And I think that's essentially what it boils down to now.
• 49:37
  I really saw something this weekend that, you know, perhaps
• 49:42
  is a blessing in disguise looking, you know, depending on
• 49:46
  how this week turns out. I saw attack, I saw attack.
• 49:51
  I saw a talk between Jack Dorsey and Matt O'dell at Nostoriga.
• 49:59
  And this is my, this was my first personal experience,
• 50:02
  experience with censorship and deplatform deplatforming.
• 50:07
  But what I came to realize and kind of doubling back to this is
• 50:12
  during this time of great disintermediation, information
• 50:16
  is power. Information is how we spread the
• 50:19
  signal, how we speed the truth about money.
• 50:23
  And as long as information is being transmitted via
• 50:27
  centralized gatekeeping platforms, then that's always
• 50:32
  going to be a weak point. This is where Nostr comes into
• 50:36
  play. Nostr is what Bitcoin is to
• 50:42
  money. Noster is to information.
• 50:47
  Noster is not a a platform. Noster is a protocol.
• 50:52
  And I know that Trey feels very passionately about Noster.
• 50:55
  And there's something about Noster that makes it special.
• 50:59
  Because you can't de platform someone, because you can't make
• 51:03
  their information and their ideas go away, you're forced to
• 51:09
  debate them on the merits of their ideas.
• 51:14
  And that is what Nostr is all about.
• 51:17
  It's an uncensorable protocol where you can post without any
• 51:23
  fear of being the platform or de censored.
• 51:28
  Very similar to the ethos of Bitcoin, where anyone around the
• 51:32
  world has the ability to save and earn in money without fear
• 51:37
  of debasement or confiscation, Noster is that other side of the
• 51:42
  equation. And regardless of how much
• 51:44
  engagement we get there in the beginning, as a Bitcoin media
• 51:48
  organization, we feel like it's our responsibility to post on
• 51:54
  this information protocol if we really, really, if we are really
• 51:59
  proponents of the separation of money and state and the peaceful
• 52:02
  revolution. We are absolute Larps if we
• 52:06
  don't promote information protocols that make
• 52:11
  deplatforming and censorship impossible.
• 52:14
  Anyways, I do want to pass it on to Trey.
• 52:17
  Trey, you feel very passionately, passionately,
• 52:19
  passionately about Noster. I know that you wrote an article
• 52:23
  for Bitcoin Magazine somewhat recently.
• 52:26
  That was about a year ago, literally exactly almost a year
• 52:28
  ago called Noster Ensures a Free Internet for the future.
• 52:32
  So I don't know why it took me so long for me to see this.
• 52:36
  It's the kind of like the old trope of like you have to kind
• 52:39
  of burn your finger on the stove and you in order for you to be
• 52:41
  like, OK, you know what? Maybe I should have touched the
• 52:44
  stove, but I saw it. I get it.
• 52:47
  I understand the importance of Noster now.
• 52:50
  I don't know if you want to add to that.
• 52:53
  Yeah, I, I think a lot of people view Noster, I forget who said
• 52:56
  it recently, as like an insurance policy.
• 52:58
  I, I feel like it's still in that stage right now, which is
• 53:01
  almost in some, I mean, Bitcoin's more advanced and, and
• 53:04
  years on Nostra's only like 3 years old.
• 53:06
  I'm, I'm not sure at this point. So a lot of people still view it
• 53:09
  as a, as an insurance policy, but there's so many different
• 53:12
  reasons why Nostra is such an incredible tool.
• 53:15
  And I think slowly but surely more people are starting to
• 53:18
  realize it, just like you mentioned, Nico, but others
• 53:19
  actually talking about it, There's more capital coming into
• 53:23
  Nostra to support developers like Human Rights Foundation is
• 53:25
  doing awesome work there. Open SAT's obviously Matt Odell
• 53:28
  leading the charge. A lot of these things literally
• 53:30
  leaving X a while ago at this point and and posting Noster
• 53:34
  only and and kind of returning back to a what a lot of us miss
• 53:38
  and listen. Like I am from the left and
• 53:39
  progressive and I have a lot of friends who are really
• 53:42
  frustrated with like Elon Musk and ex And not even just for
• 53:45
  like, OK, they're seeing more right wing content or something
• 53:48
  like that. But just the concept of like,
• 53:50
  OK, a super rich billionaire can kind of pull strings behind a, a
• 53:54
  website, a, a platform that we don't really know about, whether
• 53:57
  it's like Turkish elections. Like I, I think I mentioned that
• 54:00
  in that article about a year ago where Elon was like, Yep, OK,
• 54:03
  we'll censor things a week before the election in Turkey.
• 54:05
  Like that's not OK. That's just objectively wrong
• 54:08
  and not OK. And Elon's response as well.
• 54:10
  It's better to have X there than no X or something like that.
• 54:13
  When really the real reason was he still wanted to add money to
• 54:15
  go. He still wanted to make money.
• 54:17
  He didn't want to be down users for his ad revenue, right?
• 54:20
  It's a for profit company that he completely overpaid for,
• 54:23
  right? So there's so many reasons to be
• 54:25
  into a protocol. And there's a lot of my friends
• 54:28
  and a lot, a lot of people in general are just still on X,
• 54:31
  still utilizing this when it's just one of those things just
• 54:34
  like e-mail, just like RSS, you know, pod feeds, just like
• 54:38
  Bitcoin or decentralized money. I think something as important
• 54:41
  as speech and freedom of speech should not be decided by a
• 54:44
  company or an individual. And that's where Noster is
• 54:47
  really beautiful and Noster is still very much Bitcoiners, some
• 54:50
  might say, very much still kind of more right leaning, whatever
• 54:52
  the case may be. But it's so small and so early.
• 54:54
  Like Noster is really for everyone.
• 54:56
  We say from the platform a lot Bitcoins for everyone.
• 54:58
  Noster is really for for everyone.
• 54:59
  There's so many cool different groups that have popped up.
• 55:02
  There's people in China using Noster and Noster relays.
• 55:05
  There's people in Argentina, there's people in Venezuela,
• 55:07
  there's people in India all over using using Noster.
• 55:10
  And I think those numbers will continue to grow.
• 55:12
  And I've become incredibly, incredibly bullish on Noster.
• 55:15
  And I think personally, the other thing that people don't
• 55:18
  talk a lot about is kind of the mental health aspect.
• 55:20
  I mean, I posted like a few weeks ago now on X.
• 55:23
  We still have our podcast across all platforms because similar to
• 55:25
  you guys, we just want to reach people where they're at.
• 55:27
  And we want, you know, unfortunately not everyone's on
• 55:29
  Nostra right now. So I'm not going to limit the
• 55:30
  podcast to that. But for me, using the personal X
• 55:34
  like my mental health, I was, I was doom scrolling.
• 55:37
  I was engaging and arguing with strangers.
• 55:39
  I was viewing bitcoiners who I agree with on a lot of things
• 55:42
  that have met in person or whatever.
• 55:43
  Sometimes it's like just getting angry about something they'd say
• 55:46
  and I'm like, what am I doing? I'm I'm sitting here just
• 55:49
  spiraling like my wife and I talked with my wife a lot about
• 55:52
  this. I'm just like, this is like, I
• 55:53
  can't keep doing this. I was just like, personally, I'm
• 55:56
  going to leave engagement on X like me, me personally, I'm
• 55:59
  going to be on Noster and if people want to connect with me
• 56:02
  there, like I'm on Noster and I, I can't do the X game anymore.
• 56:04
  We put out like articles in the pod from our progressive Bitcoin
• 56:08
  or handle on the X. But it's such like a mental
• 56:10
  health like I'm really worried about people that are so
• 56:12
  addicted to that type of, of algorithm and thing.
• 56:15
  On top of the free speech aspect.
• 56:17
  There's just so many reasons to really highly consider Noster in
• 56:21
  a future that is, that is, like you said, protocol over
• 56:24
  platform. That's kind of where I stand on
• 56:26
  it. Protocol over platform,
• 56:28
  Absolutely, absolutely, completely agree with that.
• 56:31
  And another thing that I, I wanted to talk about Trey, which
• 56:35
  is this idea is like you're on the left, right and you can make
• 56:39
  the argument. That, yeah, depending on who you
• 56:41
  ask, yeah. And you can make the argument,
• 56:43
  right, that me and I from an economic, I just want to say
• 56:46
  from an economic side, Mimi Opti, I would say more right
• 56:49
  leaning, But it's like we share something in common, which is
• 56:54
  like, we want Bitcoin adoption and we believe that the world's
• 56:58
  going to be a better place for it.
• 57:00
  And I actually believe that the world is going to unify for it,
• 57:03
  which is why part of the reason that I hate this election season
• 57:07
  so much and part of the reason why I got so like I got so upset
• 57:13
  with. And this is actually something
• 57:15
  that, Trey, you and I were talking about where like, I
• 57:18
  don't think that the current party right now is properly
• 57:21
  representing progressives and their ideals around the United
• 57:25
  States. Hey Nico.
• 57:27
  Hey Nico. Could we let's pivot this to the
• 57:29
  culture so we could go longer? I just wanna say one thing.
• 57:32
  Yeah, cuz we could have a good conversation about this.
• 57:33
  I just wanna say one thing about like our whole band and
• 57:36
  everything. Obviously it is what it is.
• 57:40
  If we're not going back to YouTube for whatever reason,
• 57:43
  we're gonna continue on Rumble. I just, I do want to acknowledge
• 57:47
  something that I've seen you guys say in the chat and it's
• 57:49
  like don't go back to YouTube and you know, like they're like,
• 57:52
  oh, we're only going back to YouTube because of the paycheck.
• 57:55
  Guys, we weren't even monetizing YouTube.
• 57:58
  We just realized YouTube is the second biggest search engine in
• 58:01
  the world and having that real estate is really important to
• 58:04
  get to new viewers. And so that's the only hope for
• 58:07
  us going back to YouTube. If we do end up back on YouTube,
• 58:10
  we will figure out ways so that we can continue to maintain our
• 58:13
  integrity. But again, and I've been saying
• 58:16
  this for the last couple of days, like if you don't exist on
• 58:18
  YouTube, you basically don't exist on the Internet.
• 58:20
  So of course we want that real estate back.
• 58:22
  But if it doesn't happen, then you know, we go full stream
• 58:25
  ahead on Rumble and the show will continue as we've been
• 58:29
  doing forever. It'll probably get better and
• 58:31
  hopefully it'll go smoothly on Twitter.
• 58:34
  But on that note, Nico, let's get into the culture because we
• 58:36
  could. We could really, you know,
• 58:38
  unpack this conversation with Trey and and let let's let's get
• 58:42
  to that point. Absolutely.
• 58:43
  All right, everybody, let's get to the culture.
• 58:45
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  the link in the video description all right, so I'm
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  really excited about this conversation just because, and I
• 59:53
  kind of want to make this like this.
• 59:54
  There we go. You guys can cheat.
• 59:55
  See my, my, my Puerto Rican backdrop.
• 59:58
  I do want to I'm really excited about this conversation.
• 1:00:01
  Trey and I, you know, we've always I, I would call us
• 1:00:05
  friends, right? Trey, we've always gone back and
• 1:00:07
  forth and I've always appreciated his work in the
• 1:00:11
  history of simply Bitcoin, especially in the earlier years
• 1:00:15
  at what what I the, the trend that I started to see online was
• 1:00:20
  it was becoming like more of this right wing thing.
• 1:00:24
  So we felt like it was our responsibility to highlight the
• 1:00:29
  other side. So we actually had at least 3-4,
• 1:00:32
  maybe five episodes, literally called the progressive case for
• 1:00:36
  Bitcoin, right, which I think it became a book like later down
• 1:00:39
  the line. But the reason that we did those
• 1:00:42
  episodes is to highlight the fact that Bitcoin is for
• 1:00:47
  everybody. It's not a left and right issue.
• 1:00:50
  It helps, it helps people, no matter where you are in the
• 1:00:55
  political spectrum, no matter what your age is, no matter what
• 1:00:58
  you believe, Bitcoin is for you. And that's something that we
• 1:01:01
  fundamentally believe here at Simply Bitcoin.
• 1:01:04
  And that's something that I've been echoing to Trey over TM,
• 1:01:08
  like privately, you know, especially during this election
• 1:01:11
  season because just things get so freaking divisive, right?
• 1:01:15
  So, Trey, I want to give you the platform, you know, what is the
• 1:01:19
  progressive case for Bitcoin? What makes you passionate about
• 1:01:22
  this specifically? Like in a way, man, like you
• 1:01:25
  have a lot more balls than we do, right?
• 1:01:27
  Like we make content and I feel like it's like, you know, the,
• 1:01:31
  the, the ideological bent of Bitcoin Twitter is like, you
• 1:01:34
  guys are dope, right? You make content.
• 1:01:36
  It's like, you know, I, I could see it getting attacked.
• 1:01:39
  So it's like, what makes you so passionate about making, you
• 1:01:43
  know, making Bitcoin content? And also what is the progressive
• 1:01:47
  case for Bitcoin? And is it true that Bitcoin is
• 1:01:50
  for everybody? Yeah, it's definitely true.
• 1:01:53
  I think the reason I got so passionate about making content
• 1:01:56
  specifically for Progressive and Left is because this was back in
• 1:02:00
  early 2021 is when I first started to get into Bitcoin.
• 1:02:03
  And I was, you know, I, I work in nonprofits.
• 1:02:06
  I have like a master's degree. So I was like looking at like,
• 1:02:08
  how do I pay my student loans? Do I want to keep like playing
• 1:02:10
  the stock game? Not, not really this kind of
• 1:02:13
  sucks. Stumbled upon Bitcoin and was
• 1:02:16
  like, this seems a little bit different.
• 1:02:17
  And then I heard like the human rights arguments from Alex
• 1:02:20
  Gladstein. I heard so many other use cases
• 1:02:22
  like in Africa from Anita Posh and and so many other people.
• 1:02:26
  Just things that really, you know, pulled in my heartstrings
• 1:02:28
  of of why Bitcoin's so different and super, super important from
• 1:02:31
  like the human rights angle. And that really sucked me in.
• 1:02:34
  And then I started looking on like X and Twitter at the time,
• 1:02:37
  you know, all this stuff about Bitcoin and I saw that it, it
• 1:02:39
  mainly just online leaned like heavily, right with some other
• 1:02:43
  things that don't have anything to do with Bitcoin, which again,
• 1:02:45
  free speech wise, go for it, whatever.
• 1:02:47
  But I was like, oh, there's not a lot of content that's in
• 1:02:50
  Bitcoin that also appeals to like progressives or folks on
• 1:02:52
  the left to show that this can be something that you should
• 1:02:55
  look into too. It's not just this like
• 1:02:57
  libertarian right wing pet project that they might think it
• 1:02:59
  is, right? It's this kind of universal open
• 1:03:02
  source code global money. It's it's bigger than just the
• 1:03:04
  United States. It's bigger than any country,
• 1:03:06
  all this stuff. And it doesn't have to have this
• 1:03:08
  like political bent on other things.
• 1:03:10
  So that's really the reason I started to get involved more in
• 1:03:12
  rights that I initially wrote articles and then took over the
• 1:03:15
  podcast last year and was just really passionate about all of
• 1:03:18
  that because I want to keep that going because I don't want, you
• 1:03:21
  know, let's say in the US, like 45 million Americans who are
• 1:03:24
  kind of left-leaning to think that Bitcoin is not for them is
• 1:03:27
  for or for some other political candidate or whatever.
• 1:03:30
  And I know a lot of people in the community, I, I get it.
• 1:03:32
  I honestly do will say, well, if they think that it's just tied
• 1:03:34
  to some politics, then they, they're not gonna get it anyway,
• 1:03:37
  'cause I was able to like push through some of that initially,
• 1:03:39
  but I also grew up in a very like conservative environment,
• 1:03:42
  more a very right leaning religious environment.
• 1:03:44
  So I was able to kind of understand more quickly, But
• 1:03:47
  some people are turned off if they hear someone they don't
• 1:03:50
  like talking about it, like Donald Trump, right?
• 1:03:52
  They might get turned off from that.
• 1:03:53
  It's not right. They shouldn't.
• 1:03:55
  But maybe initially they don't know that.
• 1:03:57
  But if they stumble upon this episode with you guys and see,
• 1:04:00
  oh, the progressive Bitcoin, OK, interesting.
• 1:04:02
  And they see so many other people doing awesome work all
• 1:04:04
  over the place in Bitcoin right now.
• 1:04:06
  That's better. And honestly, it's, it's hugely
• 1:04:08
  increased since three years ago. It's, it's not just me.
• 1:04:11
  It's not there. There's so many other people
• 1:04:13
  talking about Bitcoin from the left, environmental stuff, human
• 1:04:15
  rights stuff. It's more diverse content these
• 1:04:18
  days. So for me, it was just seeing a
• 1:04:20
  lack of diversity at the time and wanting to just increase
• 1:04:23
  that because Bitcoin is so much bigger than anyone.
• 1:04:26
  You know, There's something in Bitcoin for everyone regardless
• 1:04:29
  of race, religion, ideology, politics.
• 1:04:32
  And it's definitely not a progressive thing.
• 1:04:34
  It's not just the conservative thing.
• 1:04:36
  It's it's so many things. It's bigger than all.
• 1:04:38
  Of us a 1,000,000% and and I can't and I applaud you for that
• 1:04:42
  Trey because it it it's incredibly important that all
• 1:04:46
  perspectives are heard all perspectives and like all
• 1:04:51
  ideological. It's what you said, man.
• 1:04:54
  It's like, like, you know it, It doesn't matter how conservative
• 1:04:59
  or you know how you are, Like anyone can adopt Bitcoin, right?
• 1:05:02
  Like anyone, right? It doesn't matter who you are
• 1:05:05
  and what you believe. And the more Bitcoin content the
• 1:05:09
  better. And there's obviously Bitcoin
• 1:05:11
  content that is going to resonate with some people.
• 1:05:14
  And then there's obviously Bitcoin content that is going to
• 1:05:17
  resonate with other people, right?
• 1:05:20
  And, you know, perhaps simply Bitcoin is a little bit too
• 1:05:23
  intense the first time, first time to go around, right?
• 1:05:27
  So, yeah, I, I, I, I applaud you for doing that, man.
• 1:05:31
  And you know, I've always messaged you and sent you
• 1:05:34
  messages of, of encouragement because I felt like what you
• 1:05:37
  were doing was so incredibly important because fundamentally
• 1:05:41
  it comes down to this, right? And even though it's election
• 1:05:44
  season and things are divisive and etcetera, etcetera, it, it
• 1:05:48
  is not red versus blue, it is not right versus left.
• 1:05:52
  It's not conservative versus liberal progressive.
• 1:05:56
  It is Bitcoin versus Fiat that that is literally what is
• 1:06:01
  happening. Are you on team Bitcoin or and
• 1:06:04
  are you on team Fiat? And maybe I'm naive to think
• 1:06:07
  this, OK, but I've seen this happen many, many times.
• 1:06:11
  I see Bitcoin as a unifying technology and I see that the
• 1:06:15
  more people adopt it, Trey, I think we have more things in
• 1:06:19
  common than I think we have in, in, in disagreement.
• 1:06:23
  And I think that, and I think that Fiat, what it does is it
• 1:06:26
  like brings the, the, the disagreements to the very top.
• 1:06:32
  And I think what Bitcoin does is it brings the disagreements to
• 1:06:35
  the very bottom so that we can live peacefully amongst each
• 1:06:38
  other, right? And I think that's essentially
• 1:06:41
  what it boils down to. And maybe you guys think I'm
• 1:06:43
  crazy in the chat or maybe you guys think I'm wrong.
• 1:06:46
  But you know, I've always had a soft spot for Trey and any
• 1:06:51
  progressive Bitcoiners that have been making content and been
• 1:06:54
  making their voices heard on Bitcoin Twitter.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, and I want to say too, you know, you had mentioned one
• 1:07:00
  thing like, 'cause I'm seeing some comment, I mean so many
• 1:07:03
  things. It's like that's why I like
• 1:07:04
  going on shows and even I've been doing spaces more recently
• 1:07:06
  to get more interactive. Like I think there's kind of
• 1:07:09
  episodes for everyone. Even in our content, there's a
• 1:07:11
  bunch of episodes from the progressive Bitcoiner that may
• 1:07:14
  be like traditional progressives might hear and be like, oof,
• 1:07:17
  they're pretty critical of Senator Warren.
• 1:07:19
  Oof. They're, they're talking about
• 1:07:21
  like capital P progressive, like kind of central government stuff
• 1:07:24
  versus lowercase P progressive values, which we talk about a
• 1:07:28
  lot. So there there's kind of we, I
• 1:07:30
  like to try to educate the left too about some of their
• 1:07:32
  assumptions, just like I educate Bitcoiners about some of their
• 1:07:36
  assumptions of what progressives are.
• 1:07:38
  Cause a lot of my friends, they don't think about central
• 1:07:40
  government control and authority.
• 1:07:41
  They don't think about how money works, right?
• 1:07:43
  Those are the things we like to educate them on.
• 1:07:45
  They're not thinking, oh, I want the government to be as big and
• 1:07:47
  powerful as possible. A lot of them just don't know
• 1:07:49
  how this stuff works. Just like I didn't, I didn't
• 1:07:51
  know how money worked. I didn't know how energy grids
• 1:07:53
  work, all of this stuff. But the one thing that I think
• 1:07:56
  we look at it from two different angles sometimes is I think a
• 1:07:59
  lot of right leaning folks in Bitcoin look at government are
• 1:08:02
  very skeptical of that. left-leaning folks look at banks
• 1:08:06
  and corporations that are very skeptical of that.
• 1:08:08
  Both are right in a lot of ways. So it's kind of like the
• 1:08:12
  different ways you look at it. Like I, I think Bitcoin or
• 1:08:14
  something inherent is kind of a skepticism and a kind of
• 1:08:19
  pushback from authoritarians. And I know some people will say
• 1:08:22
  progressives in the left love authoritarians, right?
• 1:08:24
  It's like, come on, That's that kind of like fighting on X and
• 1:08:27
  Twitter that I just don't engage in anymore.
• 1:08:29
  There's a lot of nuance here. There's a lot of different,
• 1:08:31
  different things here, but I think the left and the right
• 1:08:33
  look at things differently and are skeptical of different
• 1:08:36
  things. They both are right in, in some
• 1:08:38
  regards, being skeptical of government, being practical of
• 1:08:40
  banks and corporations, which is deeply progressive, right?
• 1:08:43
  Like like Satoshi coming out in the wake of the great financial
• 1:08:45
  crisis and creating, creating Bitcoin and this long history of
• 1:08:49
  cryptography and crypto and all of this stuff like Bitcoin
• 1:08:52
  emerging as as the victor, as better money, all of these
• 1:08:55
  things. That's deeply progressive.
• 1:08:57
  Not relying on banks, not relying on the Fed or these
• 1:09:00
  unelected bureaucrats to create money.
• 1:09:01
  That is a deeply progressive thing that resonates with folks
• 1:09:04
  like my friends, that resonates with my friends.
• 1:09:06
  The human rights angle resonates.
• 1:09:08
  So it is definitely something that progressives in the left
• 1:09:11
  are, are keen on. And like you said, Nico earlier,
• 1:09:13
  like there are a lot of politicians that are not on the
• 1:09:16
  same page with their constituents.
• 1:09:17
  Just at the point we're at in history, Bitcoin isn't maybe a
• 1:09:21
  top issue for maybe progressives or Democrat voters right now.
• 1:09:25
  But in a few years from now, things keep going the way they
• 1:09:27
  are with inflation and other things.
• 1:09:28
  They Start learning more from your channel, our channel,
• 1:09:31
  others. They're going to start speaking
• 1:09:32
  up a lot more like we're playing a long game here and we're we're
• 1:09:34
  definitely on the right course. Well, the the pendulum, yeah,
• 1:09:37
  absolutely. And you know, the pendulum
• 1:09:39
  swings, right, Trey? Like, you know, it was back in
• 1:09:42
  the 50s and 60s where you could say that a lot of members of the
• 1:09:46
  left wing community in the United States were persecuted,
• 1:09:49
  right? And that's where you got like
• 1:09:51
  the original ideals of like transparent government, you
• 1:09:54
  know, like a lot of the like the freedom of speech, like that
• 1:09:57
  came from that era in history, right?
• 1:10:00
  And it seems like the pendulum just swung that way.
• 1:10:03
  And it seems like what money is and it's actually BTC session,
• 1:10:06
  since you brought this up to me, it's like Bitcoin becomes the
• 1:10:10
  money of the party that is not in power, right?
• 1:10:13
  Like Bitcoin becomes the party of the disenfranchised.
• 1:10:17
  Bitcoin becomes the the party of the resistance in a way, right?
• 1:10:21
  And just it, it really depends where you are in history, right?
• 1:10:25
  And This is why Bitcoin is so important because it's like it
• 1:10:28
  doesn't care about your ideological bet.
• 1:10:30
  And most importantly, you brought up a really good point,
• 1:10:32
  Trey. You can't.
• 1:10:34
  No one owns it, right? Like it, What is that?
• 1:10:37
  But not a very progressive value, right?
• 1:10:39
  No one owns it. Everyone's equal in the sense
• 1:10:42
  that everyone can create more of it.
• 1:10:43
  No one has a very special privilege.
• 1:10:46
  The thing is completely audible. It's completely transparent,
• 1:10:49
  right? Which you can say adds to, you
• 1:10:51
  know, accountability, so to speak.
• 1:10:53
  So it has a lot of progressive values actually baked into the
• 1:10:58
  protocol itself. And it also has some right wing
• 1:11:01
  values baked into the protocol itself.
• 1:11:03
  So it has a little bit of both in that sense.
• 1:11:06
  Because no one owns Bitcoin, right?
• 1:11:08
  Someone owns the Federal Reserve, someone owns JP Morgan,
• 1:11:11
  someone owns Chase, someone owns Wells Fargo, no one owns the
• 1:11:15
  Bitcoin protocol. It's it actually has a
• 1:11:17
  collective ownership in a way. You can make an argument for
• 1:11:20
  that. Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  What's tough is it's such a new paradigm, right?
• 1:11:23
  So even the ways we talk about it, like is it progressive?
• 1:11:25
  Is it libertarian? The longer I'm in Bitcoin, the
• 1:11:27
  less satisfied I am with that, because overall I'm very
• 1:11:30
  critical of the Democratic Party.
• 1:11:31
  I'm very critical of the Republican Party, like most
• 1:11:34
  Americans. I'm very critical of our current
• 1:11:36
  two party system. Most people don't feel heard
• 1:11:39
  like the rise of independence, like there's a huge rise in, in
• 1:11:42
  registered independence in the United States or unaffiliated
• 1:11:45
  voters, depending on what state you're in.
• 1:11:47
  There's a rise of that. There's a rise of mistrust of
• 1:11:49
  government, of media, of all these things.
• 1:11:52
  That's for a reason, right? Some people who really like to
• 1:11:54
  hold on to central control, maybe some small pockets of the
• 1:11:57
  left or the right or or whatever would like to say there's so
• 1:12:00
  many, you know, reasons or, oh, people are being manipulated and
• 1:12:02
  this. And that's like, no, a lot of
• 1:12:03
  people like, yeah, there you go. Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  And I I think too. And Nico, we were just talking
• 1:12:09
  about this before the show. The more there are crackdowns on
• 1:12:12
  privacy, freedom of speech, like I get more and more just
• 1:12:15
  unsettled with these party framings, right.
• 1:12:17
  And instead, like this odd place of I want to meet people where
• 1:12:20
  they're at from the progressive Bitcoiner.
• 1:12:22
  But sometimes also it's really important for people to know,
• 1:12:25
  hey, this is wrong like this, this way of thinking is wrong.
• 1:12:29
  And and both the right and the left print money, right?
• 1:12:32
  We talk about this this a lot like a lot of folks pretend that
• 1:12:35
  just progressives that left print money.
• 1:12:37
  That's that's not the case. Like both the left and the right
• 1:12:39
  do it. And when the left do it and when
• 1:12:40
  the left are lie, like when Elizabeth Warren goes on
• 1:12:43
  national TV and lies about the cause of inflation and tells
• 1:12:46
  voters that it's because grocery stores are charging too much,
• 1:12:51
  that is false. And I call that out like
• 1:12:53
  religiously, that is lying to people.
• 1:12:56
  I think that is dishonorable. I think she should resign.
• 1:12:59
  Like people like that, like politicians like that.
• 1:13:00
  You're not being honest with people.
• 1:13:02
  You want to get them angry that that is the cause of their
• 1:13:04
  problem when it's not. The right does it in different
• 1:13:06
  ways like every all these politicians can do it in
• 1:13:08
  different ways. I think Bitcoin is an instrument
• 1:13:10
  of truth. I think nostril and other
• 1:13:13
  protocols are instruments of truth.
• 1:13:15
  And the more people see instruments of truth, they'll
• 1:13:17
  find their values reflected in it.
• 1:13:19
  But I just think it's a new paradigm.
• 1:13:20
  So it's it's still really hard to talk about in our old
• 1:13:23
  framing, if that makes sense. Yeah, 100%.
• 1:13:26
  It's, it's a new paradigm and it's a new paradigm and because
• 1:13:31
  of how much look for, it's something that I, I think we can
• 1:13:34
  all agree upon. Money plays a crucial role in
• 1:13:38
  human society and just the human condition, just how people
• 1:13:41
  transact, right? And that money has been
• 1:13:44
  fundamentally corrupted. It's been Co opted in a way you
• 1:13:47
  can make a very strong argument for that.
• 1:13:50
  And I think it's very difficult to see a future where, you know,
• 1:13:56
  it's very difficult to see a future where a society is
• 1:14:01
  functioning on a uncorruptible base layer where the money is
• 1:14:07
  functional and what that means for all the different facets of
• 1:14:11
  society, right. And, and, and again, like, I
• 1:14:15
  can't emphasize this enough. I think a lot of the, of the
• 1:14:17
  division and divisiveness that you see today is because people
• 1:14:22
  are inherently hurting, right? And if you have a right leaning
• 1:14:26
  bet, you have a solution to it. If you have a left-leaning bet,
• 1:14:30
  you have a solution to it. But Trey, you said the quiet
• 1:14:33
  part out loud. You buried the lead, which is
• 1:14:35
  whether it's the Republican Party in power or the, or the
• 1:14:38
  Democratic Party in power or anywhere around the world, all
• 1:14:42
  governments inherently do the same thing, which is print money
• 1:14:45
  and therefore debase the currency of their citizens of of
• 1:14:49
  of the, the money that their citizens are using to transact.
• 1:14:53
  What happens to society when all of a sudden that power from
• 1:14:57
  government gets removed or better said, it's, it's checked
• 1:15:01
  because now people have an alternative to use a currency
• 1:15:05
  where it can't be debased in the 1st place.
• 1:15:07
  You can't even comprehend how that's going to change society
• 1:15:11
  and how you're going to look at certain ideological viewpoints
• 1:15:15
  and vantage points. It's impossible to see it that
• 1:15:18
  way. It's or it may be not
• 1:15:19
  impossible, but very difficult to imagine that type of world.
• 1:15:23
  Anyways, Trey, I do want to use kind of like the latter half of
• 1:15:26
  the show to promote your podcast.
• 1:15:28
  What is the progressive Bitcoiner?
• 1:15:30
  Where could people find it and what future plans do you have
• 1:15:34
  for the show and the podcast? Yeah, so wherever you get your
• 1:15:37
  podcast, I like to shout out Fountain.
• 1:15:39
  Like we talk a lot about, you know, kind of Noster and they
• 1:15:42
  they just did an awesome Noster at integration, by the way, so
• 1:15:44
  you can support us on Fountain. Listen on Fountain.
• 1:15:46
  It's my daily driver for any podcast.
• 1:15:48
  I love listening on on unfounded, but anywhere you get
• 1:15:50
  your podcast, we trigger warning.
• 1:15:53
  We are on YouTube for now. We have like 600 subscribers.
• 1:15:56
  So maybe we're not we're not big enough yet depending on what
• 1:15:59
  what we talked about. So we're on we're on YouTube.
• 1:16:01
  I I post our content and our videos on Noster as well, but
• 1:16:03
  really just on podcast. We do have new episodes every
• 1:16:06
  Tuesday. Like we've got an awesome
• 1:16:07
  conversation with Lynn Alden coming out tomorrow talking
• 1:16:10
  about a lot of the stuff. I just, I just mentioned so, so
• 1:16:12
  every Tuesday we've been doing more like live interaction stuff
• 1:16:15
  too, like whether it's spaces, I want to do more Noster stuff
• 1:16:18
  again, but just going forward, man, it's like, you know, we're,
• 1:16:20
  we're going going into the election, for better or for
• 1:16:23
  worse, I didn't, I've been able to connect and talk with people
• 1:16:26
  that are connected with different campaigns, trying to
• 1:16:28
  connect with Kamala Harris's campaign.
• 1:16:30
  And my goal is not to like be a platform for politicians.
• 1:16:34
  We're a platform for, for average people, for voters,
• 1:16:36
  whatever. But if we can do our part to, to
• 1:16:39
  do some risk mitigation and not have draconian laws passed
• 1:16:43
  against Bitcoin, we're going to try to do that part.
• 1:16:44
  So we want to try to educate and talk from a left view of why
• 1:16:48
  self custody is important, why proof of work mining is
• 1:16:51
  important and why open source software development is
• 1:16:53
  important. Because to crack down on any,
• 1:16:56
  any remarks of, of self custody is just unconstitutional and
• 1:16:59
  wrong. Like everyone should be against
• 1:17:01
  that. Proof of work mining is really
• 1:17:02
  important to the US, including all sorts of environmental use
• 1:17:05
  cases for it. And then open source
• 1:17:07
  development, like people should be able to freely work and
• 1:17:09
  interact on on Bitcoin and build things for Bitcoin and truly,
• 1:17:13
  you know, software and software development.
• 1:17:15
  So we've seen this with with Telegram and free speech, but
• 1:17:18
  with bitcoiners. So I try to use my voice from
• 1:17:20
  the left and maybe it's like, hey, maybe they'll listen to
• 1:17:22
  someone from the left a little bit more right or and just try
• 1:17:24
  to use whatever ounce of influence I have to try to help
• 1:17:27
  just lower the temperature so we can move forward on Bitcoin as
• 1:17:30
  this non partisan thing that people just see as a better
• 1:17:33
  option. And that's really one of the
• 1:17:35
  best hopes I have in this regard.
• 1:17:37
  If Bitcoin didn't exist, I I don't know what we'd be doing
• 1:17:41
  right now. Yeah, I, I, I have no idea.
• 1:17:43
  I don't know. I have no idea how this this
• 1:17:46
  this world will turn out. Anyways, opted you have any
• 1:17:49
  final thoughts before we wrap up today's episode?
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, I, I have final thoughts, but it's not really about the
• 1:17:54
  topic, so I'm going to pivot a little bit.
• 1:17:56
  I really just want to give a huge shout out to every single
• 1:17:58
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• 1:18:02
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• 1:18:05
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• 1:18:27
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