Latest / David Pollack Primetime / Miller Time
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Today, Stephen Miller walks into the West Wing as the
- 0:14Speaker 1: newest White House chief of staff. That's right, it's Miller time.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Susie Wiles, first female chief of staff in White House history,
- 0:21Speaker 1: she's out. Susie Wiles is moving into a leadership role
- 0:26Speaker 1: at the Trump political operation. She's not going away. Trump
- 0:30Speaker 1: praised her. She called serving him an honor of a lifetime.
- 0:35Speaker 1: That's not a firing, guys. It's a midterm recalibration. And
- 0:37Speaker 1: after a midterm loss, Chief of Staff change is kind
- 0:40Speaker 1: of common. Wiles lasted about 22 months. That doesn't mean
- 0:45Speaker 1: there aren't rumors, though, of controversies. Friday on Rogan, they
- 0:50Speaker 1: said that Wiles was blocking MAHA. There was also reports
- 0:53Speaker 1: of a loud argument in the Oval Office before Wiles
- 0:56Speaker 1: tendered a resignation. I'm not going to go litigate all
- 0:58Speaker 1: of these leaks yet. We'll dive into all that throughout
- 1:01Speaker 1: the week as details become available. But despite all the
- 1:06Speaker 1: alleged rumors and alleged controversies, the big picture is this.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It's an obvious one. Trump needed a wartime chief of
- 1:12Speaker 1: staff before a Democratic Congress that already wants his impeachment.
- 1:18Speaker 1: And Stephen Miller is the perfect wartime chief of staff.
- 1:23Speaker 1: And Democrats are already taking notice that Kim Jeffries has
- 1:25Speaker 1: already called Miller an awful choice and said Democrats won't
- 1:29Speaker 1: work with him.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Good.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Good.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Because Democrats haven't shown any interest in working with Trump either,
- 1:34Speaker 1: and the White House isn't the only place where we've
- 1:37Speaker 1: seen some significant changes. There appears to be somewhat of
- 1:41Speaker 1: an exodus at DOJ. Harmeet Dhillon of civil rights on Thursday,
- 1:44Speaker 1: she was out. John Eisenberg of national security on Friday.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Jason Redding, Quinones, the Southern District of Florida, he's out.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Patrick Davis of legislative affairs back in October and this morning.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Brett Shumate, the chief of the civil division, he resigned.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Attorney General Todd Blanch accepted it and thanked him for
- 2:04Speaker 1: his wins against sanctuary policies and illegal corporate DEI. Why
- 2:09Speaker 1: all the movement? Well, Democrats just took Congress. Oversight and
- 2:14Speaker 1: impeachment theater is coming. Some of these exits were already planned.
- 2:17Speaker 1: It's not an easy job. And resignations are common. But
- 2:21Speaker 1: the timing involving this, it suggests to me that maybe
- 2:25Speaker 1: they simply want to avoid the threats of subpoenas. I
- 2:30Speaker 1: expect more changes coming in the next few days, as
- 2:31Speaker 1: Trump said, and more claims of controversy surrounding each one,
- 2:35Speaker 1: I'm sure, and we'll talk about each one as they come.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But I understand there's a civil war brewing within the
- 2:42Speaker 1: Republican Party, and in preparation for 28, we do have
- 2:45Speaker 1: to be careful about believing every rumor we hear coming
- 2:49Speaker 1: out of Washington. Joining me now is Bianca Gracia, White
- 2:54Speaker 1: House correspondent for Wall Street Latinas, a co-founder. I WANT
- 2:59Speaker 1: TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE LATINOS FOR TRUMP. I
- 3:02Speaker 1: WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE LATINOS FOR TRUMP.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I KNOW YOU ARE ON THE GROUND THERE AT THE
- 3:06Speaker 1: WHITE HOUSE ALL THE TIME. A LOT OF RUMORS AND SPECULATION.
- 3:11Speaker 1: A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK A LOT OF THINGS. WE
- 3:14Speaker 1: WILL DEAL WITH THE SPECULATION LATER.
- 3:22Speaker 4: You know, I think, well, it's definitely done really good
- 3:26Speaker 4: for the MAGA movement. Obviously, America First is just, it's
- 3:31Speaker 4: revved up, right? This was a change that I think
- 3:33Speaker 4: we were looking for. We were looking for fresh blood,
- 3:36Speaker 4: someone who is going to really champion the America first policies.
- 3:41Speaker 4: So I think, you know, yeah, you've got the ones
- 3:43Speaker 4: on the left that are sitting there, of course, having
- 3:45Speaker 4: to melt down.
- 3:46Speaker 5: They're like, oh, what a horrible choice, as you said before.
- 3:49Speaker 4: But for the most part, people who have supported this
- 3:52Speaker 4: president are excited about this change. I mean, you know,
- 3:55Speaker 4: we saw it coming. I mean, it was just a
- 3:57Speaker 4: matter of time. So, yeah, this is where we're at.
- 4:00Speaker 4: And I think he's going to do a fantastic job.
- 4:02Speaker 4: It's going to change the culture in this White House
- 4:04Speaker 4: for sure.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I mean, look, President Trump is facing, and you saw this,
- 4:11Speaker 1: and later in the show I talk about the 60
- 4:13Speaker 1: Minutes interview. He seems tired. He seems disappointed. And he
- 4:19Speaker 1: seems to have a sense of, I don't know what
- 4:22Speaker 1: we would call it. He's just fully aware of what
- 4:25Speaker 1: he's about to deal with. He's dealt with it before.
- 4:26Speaker 1: He remembers 2016. He remembers the impeachments. He remembers the
- 4:30Speaker 1: investigation and the subpoenas. Trump remembers all of this. And
- 4:33Speaker 1: I think he's looking at the next two years and
- 4:35Speaker 1: he's hoping, THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE
- 4:37Speaker 1: PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO
- 4:40Speaker 1: MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL.
- 4:41Speaker 1: THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS
- 4:43Speaker 1: TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL.
- 4:45Speaker 1: THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WANTS
- 4:47Speaker 1: TO MAKE A DEAL. You have Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer
- 4:55Speaker 1: and all these people who are making all these threats.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Do you want to go to war or do you
- 4:59Speaker 1: want to make a deal? And I think that's what
- 5:01Speaker 1: this is. This really is. I don't think it's, you know, Susie.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Susie Wiles was she's the political arm, right? She's the
- 5:06Speaker 1: political mind. She was there to deal with a Republican
- 5:09Speaker 1: House and Senate. Stephen Miller's there to deal with the Democrats.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That's my take on this. What about you?
- 5:14Speaker 5: Well, Steve, I think, Steve, I'm sorry, David.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Call me Chief of Staff, David Pollack, Stephen Miller, whatever.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, I know.
- 5:21Speaker 4: I'm like, I was going to say Stephen. Well, listen,
- 5:25Speaker 4: here's the thing.
- 5:27Speaker 1: You know what?
- 5:27Speaker 4: This is a reason, one of the reasons we lost
- 5:30Speaker 4: and lost majorly, obviously, throughout the country is because people
- 5:34Speaker 4: felt like there wasn't accountability. in this administration. They felt
- 5:37Speaker 4: like the America First policies were not being advanced. They
- 5:39Speaker 4: felt that Congress obviously wasn't doing their job, right? And
- 5:42Speaker 4: so right now it's not so much about, oh, let's
- 5:45Speaker 4: make a deal. People, America First doesn't want deals. They
- 5:49Speaker 4: want you to carry out what we initially voted for
- 5:52Speaker 4: President Trump to be in this office. And that's why
- 5:55Speaker 4: he's bringing in Stephen Miller to, so that he can
- 5:58Speaker 4: get this, his agenda, you know, obviously, yes, we're going
- 6:00Speaker 4: to get blocked because we're, we're going to have to
- 6:02Speaker 4: deal with Democrats now. I mean, it's a fact. I mean,
- 6:06Speaker 4: this is what we're going to have to deal with,
- 6:08Speaker 4: but you know what? Listen, I, I don't know what
- 6:11Speaker 4: to expect, but I do know that President Trump is
- 6:14Speaker 4: used to— he' s a fighter. David, you know that.
- 6:17Speaker 5: I know that. This is not his first rodeo.
- 6:20Speaker 4: He knows exactly what he's going to step into, and
- 6:22Speaker 4: he's going to have to build a little army of
- 6:25Speaker 4: America First people that are going to champion him. for
- 6:28Speaker 4: him and hold the fort and hold the line down
- 6:31Speaker 4: here from the White House. And that's what he's going
- 6:33Speaker 4: to do. He's going to start putting in his loyal
- 6:35Speaker 4: people that understand and have been with him since the
- 6:38Speaker 4: beginning in 2016. and understand when he said, make America
- 6:42Speaker 4: great again, what that really looked like. And he's got,
- 6:45Speaker 4: you know, there's no one better.
- 6:46Speaker 5: I've said this.
- 6:47Speaker 4: President Trump is the, he is the master at messaging.
- 6:52Speaker 4: And he knows how to win. He knows how to win, David.
- 6:56Speaker 5: And I think he is a fighter.
- 6:58Speaker 4: And listen, for me, my personal advice to him is,
- 7:03Speaker 4: Don't cower down. Don't bend the knee and keep marching forward.
- 7:07Speaker 4: And if there's anyone that can turn this ship around,
- 7:10Speaker 4: it's him.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Don't give up. Keep moving forward.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Keep doing what the people of this country elected you
- 7:17Speaker 4: to do. And you know what, David, you said something
- 7:19Speaker 4: about that he was tired.
- 7:21Speaker 5: He should be. He was out campaigning 30 days.
- 7:23Speaker 4: He's 80 years old and he's having to go clean
- 7:25Speaker 4: up the mess of the Republican leadership that couldn't get
- 7:28Speaker 4: things done. He went to go advocate across this whole country.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Of course, he's tired. He's having to deal with foreign people.
- 7:34Speaker 4: He's having to deal with domestic people. He's having to
- 7:37Speaker 4: deal with both sides of the party. He's having to
- 7:39Speaker 4: deal with the White House. I mean, he's still running
- 7:41Speaker 4: a country. And then you're having to go campaign 30 days.
- 7:43Speaker 5: Of course, this was long days, day in, day out.
- 7:48Speaker 4: He needs some rest. Look, go play some golf if
- 7:50Speaker 4: you need to. But you know what?
- 7:53Speaker 5: Get back to work.
- 7:53Speaker 4: You've got the right person in right now.
- 7:55Speaker 5: Let's see what Stephen Miller does. And We're hopeful.
- 7:59Speaker 4: As America First people, MAGA movement, we are very hopeful
- 8:03Speaker 4: that he is going to do some wonderful things.
- 8:06Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 8:06Speaker 1: No, listen, I still, I will always stand by President
- 8:10Speaker 1: Trump from 2015 to now. It's not a political position
- 8:15Speaker 1: for me. It's one of not only respect, but also
- 8:18Speaker 1: the fact that in my entire lifetime, there has been
- 8:20Speaker 1: one president that I felt like got it. And I
- 8:23Speaker 1: think President Trump still understands everything. I think I think
- 8:26Speaker 1: Stephen Miller proves putting him in that position proves that
- 8:29Speaker 1: he understands what his base wants. We'll see where it
- 8:32Speaker 1: goes from here. Politically, we have a lot to talk about.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I have to have you back because we are going
- 8:36Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, which voices move up in
- 8:39Speaker 1: the in the movement, who gets the nomination, what this
- 8:41Speaker 1: says about the party. There's a lot to talk about
- 8:43Speaker 1: in the next couple of years.
- 8:45Speaker 4: We've got 50 days for him to get this Congress
- 8:49Speaker 4: fired up.
- 8:50Speaker 1: You know what?
- 8:50Speaker 4: They shouldn't go to work. They need to get to work.
- 8:52Speaker 4: They shouldn't be having vacation. They already had two months
- 8:55Speaker 4: of vacation and they lost. They need to get to
- 8:57Speaker 4: work and go through it. It's the lamest lame duck
- 8:59Speaker 4: Congress in history. I'm going to talk to you again
- 9:01Speaker 4: real soon.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.
- 9:03Speaker 5: Thanks so much. Have a great week.
- 9:05Speaker 3: You too.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Still ahead, Secretary Rubio says the Iran war wasn't popular,
- 9:11Speaker 1: but it was necessary. I agree. Vice President Vance says
- 9:14Speaker 1: it might have cost him the midterms. So was it
- 9:17Speaker 1: worth it? Then a massacre in Krakow while Poland's president
- 9:20Speaker 1: accuses the prime minister of a forcible takeover of their
- 9:23Speaker 1: top court. Is this politically motivated? Who's responsible? And later,
- 9:27Speaker 1: Trump on 60 Minutes, what he actually said after the
- 9:30Speaker 1: midterms and what he won't apologize for. All that's coming up.
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- 10:18Speaker 1: With the midterms over, the blame game continues. Some blame Trump,
- 10:24Speaker 1: some blame the economy. Vice President blamed Iran. Secretary of
- 10:29Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio is making the case that the Iran
- 10:32Speaker 1: war was worth fighting for days after voters made their
- 10:37Speaker 1: feelings known at the ballot box. Speaking Sunday before heading
- 10:41Speaker 1: to the G7 in Paris, Rubio said President Trump was
- 10:44Speaker 1: confronting a threat that demanded action.
- 10:47Speaker 8: Look.
- 10:48Speaker 9: Well, I'm not going to comment on the war.
- 10:50Speaker 10: I'm sorry, on the elections, which is what you're asking
- 10:52Speaker 10: me about. All I can tell you is that the
- 10:53Speaker 10: president of the United States identified a very real threat
- 10:55Speaker 10: to this country that's existed for a very long period
- 10:58Speaker 10: of time, and.
- 10:59Speaker 9: He addressed it.
- 11:00Speaker 10: And he addressed it, even though oftentimes the right thing
- 11:03Speaker 10: to do for the country, confronting difficult challenges for the security.
- 11:06Speaker 9: Of our country, doing it isn't necessarily.
- 11:08Speaker 6: popular, but necessary.
- 11:10Speaker 10: At the end of the day, I think we can
- 11:12Speaker 10: all agree, I think there's bipartisan, I would hope there's bipartisan,
- 11:14Speaker 10: maybe not anymore, but there used to be bipartisan acknowledgement
- 11:19Speaker 10: that a nuclear Iran would be completely unacceptable and dangerous
- 11:22Speaker 10: for the United States.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Rubio's core argument is nuclear. The IAEA says Iran holds
- 11:27Speaker 1: about 972 pounds of uranium and rich to 60%. short
- 11:32Speaker 1: technical step from weapons grade. We talked about that on
- 11:35Speaker 1: the show. Iran says its program is peaceful. Of course,
- 11:39Speaker 1: everybody wants to feel like they're at peace when they
- 11:42Speaker 1: create nuclear weapons. But the cost, it's hard to ignore.
- 11:45Speaker 1: The war is now more than eight months old. It
- 11:47Speaker 1: has disrupted the straightforward moves where one fifth of the
- 11:50Speaker 1: world's oil moved before the conflict. Higher energy prices helped
- 11:53Speaker 1: Democrats take Congress last week. Vice President J.D. Vance, he
- 11:57Speaker 1: was blunt. He said the reason we lost was the war,
- 12:01Speaker 1: plain and simple. Pollsters identified four things voters turned on
- 12:05Speaker 1: in the Republican Party, putting America first, the country's relationship
- 12:09Speaker 1: with Israel, the economy, and ending the war in Iran. Now,
- 12:14Speaker 1: there's some controversy about that post. Some suggest that he
- 12:18Speaker 1: went behind President Trump's back-to-post. The president denied that. President
- 12:22Speaker 1: called Vance's assessment largely true. But he isn't backing off.
- 12:29Speaker 1: That's the split. Rubio's defending the war, and Vance is
- 12:33Speaker 1: blaming it, of course, coming as both are being eyed
- 12:36Speaker 1: for presidential runs in 2028. Now, Republican dissent, it's not new.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Four GOP senators, Rand Paul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Bill Cassidy,
- 12:46Speaker 1: voted for a war powers resolution in the summer. In
- 12:50Speaker 1: the House, Thomas Massey has backed every one, and former
- 12:53Speaker 1: congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene called the war Trump's biggest betrayal.
- 12:57Speaker 1: So how does it end? Rubio says not soon. He
- 13:02Speaker 1: called Iran's demands outrageous and ridiculous. Tehran wants the U.S.
- 13:05Speaker 1: blockade lifted, sanctions eased, assets unfrozen, and compensation for war damage.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Trump told CNN renewed strikes are highly unlikely if talks progress,
- 13:14Speaker 1: but only if signs are very strong for an agreement.
- 13:18Speaker 1: He also named targets, including 38 bridges, if fighting resumes.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Oil prices fell sharply last week. A lot of people
- 13:24Speaker 1: thought it was kind of suspicious, considering the timing. Nothing
- 13:27Speaker 1: changed with the war. But analysts say that reflects hopes
- 13:30Speaker 1: for a deal, not evidence of one. Trump meets Qatar's
- 13:33Speaker 1: prime minister Monday, and the mediators are still working on
- 13:36Speaker 1: a path to a ceasefire. For now, the administration says
- 13:39Speaker 1: the war was necessary. The question is whether the public
- 13:41Speaker 1: and Republicans facing 2028 can continue to agree. Joining me
- 13:46Speaker 1: now is Azam Al-Ghabra, former senior advisor for public affairs
- 13:50Speaker 1: at the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, also
- 13:54Speaker 1: founder and president of Frontiers Consultants.
- 13:56Speaker 8: Azam.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Welcome back, David Pollak, Prime Time. Look, I believe— I have
- 14:00Speaker 1: believed that the war was necessary. I believe what the
- 14:04Speaker 1: president says about Iran's ability to enrich uranium, the possession
- 14:07Speaker 1: of that enriched uranium, the threat it posed to building
- 14:09Speaker 1: a weapon of some sort. I think the president made
- 14:11Speaker 1: a bold decision for America, not necessarily a bold decision politically.
- 14:16Speaker 1: I think J.D. Vance's post was somewhat correct, but I
- 14:19Speaker 1: think there was more factors that went in besides just
- 14:22Speaker 1: the Iran war and the support of Israel. I don't
- 14:24Speaker 1: think a lot of people broke because of that. Hizam,
- 14:26Speaker 1: I'm turning it over to you. Regarding the war, its
- 14:29Speaker 1: outcome on the election, and where it goes forward, what's
- 14:31Speaker 1: your take on it?
- 14:33Speaker 9: Thank you, David, for having me. So for myself and
- 14:36Speaker 9: for you, this makes sense, right? Because you and I
- 14:40Speaker 9: are part-time Iran watchers. We've been watching Iran. We've been
- 14:44Speaker 9: paying attention. We've been following the developments, how they've been
- 14:47Speaker 9: developing a nuclear weapon nonstop, even including what's supposed to
- 14:51Speaker 9: be a stop to their project and following the JCPOA.
- 14:56Speaker 9: They never stopped. But the average voter does not know.
- 15:00Speaker 9: You and I know because we spend time learning about
- 15:03Speaker 9: it and following it. But the average voter does not.
- 15:07Speaker 9: And here lies the problem. The White House problem has
- 15:10Speaker 9: been You know, somewhat in 45, but definitely in 47,
- 15:13Speaker 9: a communication issue. The average American is not aware of
- 15:17Speaker 9: what's happening or why. And I think if there was
- 15:21Speaker 9: a plan, even if the plan changes, listen, no battle
- 15:25Speaker 9: plan survives first contact.
- 15:27Speaker 11: We know this.
- 15:28Speaker 9: But if there were constant updates, clarity with the voters,
- 15:31Speaker 9: clarity with the people, things would have gone a lot better.
- 15:37Speaker 9: And we have a plan right now, but nobody knows
- 15:39Speaker 9: the plan. We are dismantling Iran's economy piece by piece.
- 15:44Speaker 9: They haven't exported a barrel of oil over the past
- 15:46Speaker 9: three months. Their currency, the rial, is in freefall. I mean,
- 15:51Speaker 9: since I think a dollar used to be 400,000 rials
- 15:55Speaker 9: when President Trump took office, now it's closer to 3 million,
- 16:02Speaker 9: 3 million and some, if you find U.S. dollars in
- 16:05Speaker 9: the Iranian market. There is a plan. Things are going well.
- 16:10Speaker 9: But unfortunately, the White House is really bad at communicating it.
- 16:14Speaker 9: They need somebody like you, David. Honestly, I mean... Maybe
- 16:17Speaker 9: a David Pollack and Dana White team may not be
- 16:20Speaker 9: a bad idea.
- 16:22Speaker 1: I wasn't listed in the slate with Dana White, but maybe. Look,
- 16:25Speaker 1: I love my job here at OAN, and the president
- 16:29Speaker 1: can watch me here, and also the viewers, so we
- 16:32Speaker 1: can all just kind of agree on a message together. But, yes,
- 16:36Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think there are elements to
- 16:38Speaker 1: this Iran war that the public needs. Doesn't fully know.
- 16:42Speaker 1: I think there is a long-term plan. If it's regime
- 16:44Speaker 1: change by Iranians' decision, that's a good thing, too, I believe.
- 16:49Speaker 1: But you're right. There's a multifaceted effort here. I believe
- 16:52Speaker 1: the media, Democrats, and even these America First folks, I
- 16:56Speaker 1: don't—you know, as they call themselves, saying, oh, no new wars.
- 16:59Speaker 1: This wasn't a new war. This is an old war
- 17:02Speaker 1: that the president is ending. But the reality is the
- 17:04Speaker 1: president did the bold thing. And this whole support for
- 17:07Speaker 1: Israel thing and the fact that they say we only
- 17:09Speaker 1: went to war for Israel, I think this is just
- 17:11Speaker 1: such a fake— I don't even know where this whole thing
- 17:14Speaker 1: came from. Because Israel's always been an ally in all
- 17:17Speaker 1: of our operations in the Middle East, not just against Iran. Yes,
- 17:21Speaker 1: we give them foreign aid. They buy our weapons with
- 17:22Speaker 1: the foreign aid. And we give foreign aid to a
- 17:24Speaker 1: lot of countries. I don't know why Israel's being singled out.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I think for some reason this is a political play,
- 17:30Speaker 1: but— That being said, I think what happened in Iran
- 17:33Speaker 1: was necessary. So what do you think happens next? The
- 17:35Speaker 1: House is changing. The Senate is changing. You've already seen J.D.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Vance make his position clear. You've heard what Rubio said.
- 17:43Speaker 1: So what happens next? I think the president sees this
- 17:46Speaker 1: thing through. But as far as support for Israel, the
- 17:49Speaker 1: outcome of Iran and all future operations like this, what
- 17:52Speaker 1: do you think happens next?
- 17:54Speaker 9: Well, let me start by saying nothing good ever came
- 17:56Speaker 9: from a bunch of liberal freshmen joining Congress. Nothing good
- 18:02Speaker 9: ever comes from that. So here's the thing. In the
- 18:05Speaker 9: next few months, I mean, these guys are coming with
- 18:07Speaker 9: pitchforks raised. They're going to try to fight the right,
- 18:11Speaker 9: and they have to infight because now there is a
- 18:14Speaker 9: spectrum and a divided spectrum. I mean, we saw like
- 18:19Speaker 9: Al-Sayed versus Chuck Schumer started like hours after the elections.
- 18:24Speaker 9: So I think the first few months are going to
- 18:28Speaker 9: be pretty horrible on the Hill. We're going to watch
- 18:31Speaker 9: a lot of investigations, a lot of subpoenas, a lot
- 18:35Speaker 9: of hearings. Then I hope that these freshmen, these new
- 18:41Speaker 9: members are going to figure out that they have to govern.
- 18:45Speaker 9: So at least we'll get six to eight months of
- 18:48Speaker 9: some form of governance and attempts at least to have
- 18:53Speaker 9: a bipartisan agreement. Then we go into the 2028 election
- 18:56Speaker 9: season and things go bad again. So hopefully, over the
- 19:02Speaker 9: next three years, we'll get six to eight months of
- 19:05Speaker 9: the governance the American people really need. And that is key.
- 19:11Speaker 9: My apologies. So that's really, that's how I see it happening. Now,
- 19:17Speaker 9: for the war, I don't think anything will change because, listen,
- 19:21Speaker 9: these guys, they may be liberal, They may be leftists,
- 19:24Speaker 9: but they're not idiots. They are not going to carry
- 19:27Speaker 9: the weight of Iran getting a nuclear weapon. And I
- 19:31Speaker 9: think once they see the intelligence, once they see what
- 19:34Speaker 9: Iran is doing, they are not going to try to
- 19:38Speaker 9: stop the war by any means necessary. That is going
- 19:41Speaker 9: to be a long-term suicide for the Democrats. But at
- 19:45Speaker 9: least that's what I foresee myself.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I, you know, I respect your opinion on it.
- 19:52Speaker 1: I think the Democrats are willing to do whatever is
- 19:56Speaker 1: necessary to hurt America so they can rebuild it in
- 19:58Speaker 1: their own image. And I think they'll look at that
- 20:00Speaker 1: intelligence and they'll make the wrong decision anyway, especially a
- 20:03Speaker 1: Senator El-Said. But God forbid, I hope you're right, sir.
- 20:06Speaker 1: I hope you're right. And they look at the threat
- 20:08Speaker 1: that Iran posed and take it seriously. Hazem, I appreciate
- 20:11Speaker 1: you being here so much. Let's have you on again
- 20:12Speaker 1: real soon to keep us updated on all this.
- 20:16Speaker 9: You know, appreciate it.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up, a massacre in Krakow. Poland's president
- 20:22Speaker 1: says the government just forcibly took over their constitutional court.
- 20:26Speaker 1: The timing raises obvious questions about a political motive, as
- 20:29Speaker 1: prosecutors say they're not sure yet. Was the attack in
- 20:32Speaker 1: Poland politically motivated? We look into all of that right
- 20:36Speaker 1: after this.
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- 21:20Speaker 1: Saturday in Krakow's main square, a 24-year-old named Mikel Oskinski
- 21:26Speaker 1: from Oskrowik drove onto the square and opened fire with
- 21:31Speaker 1: a semi-automatic rifle in Poland. This doesn't happen in Poland, guys.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Six killed in the square, about 16 wounded, including two
- 21:41Speaker 1: officers who stopped him. His parents and sister were found
- 21:44Speaker 1: dead at home, nine dead in total. He died this
- 21:48Speaker 1: morning in a hospital. Prosecutors are treating it as terrorism,
- 21:51Speaker 1: deadliest attack of its kind in Poland since 1989. Look
- 21:57Speaker 1: at the timing. It can't be ignored. This lands amid
- 22:00Speaker 1: what Poland's own president called a forcible takeover. Days earlier,
- 22:04Speaker 1: President Karol Nowacki cut short a trip to Africa after
- 22:09Speaker 1: Prime Minister Donald Tusk moved into the constitutional tribunal, suspending
- 22:14Speaker 1: its president. POLICE AT THE BUILDING, HIS JUDGES WALKED IN,
- 22:21Speaker 1: NEVRODSKY'S STATEMENT OUTSIDE THAT COURT, A BREACH OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL
- 22:24Speaker 1: ORDER AND A FORCABLE TAKEOVER OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER. TUSKSIDE, WELL,
- 22:28Speaker 1: THEY CALL IT RESTORING THE RULE OF LAW. NEVRODSKY CALLED
- 22:32Speaker 1: IT WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. IT WAS A COUP. REGARDLESS,
- 22:36Speaker 1: THE COINCIDENTAL TIMING OF ALL OF THIS SHOOTING, YOU CAN'T
- 22:39Speaker 1: IGNORE IT. MANY ARE WONDERING, THERE'S POLITICAL MOTIVE HERE. INTERIOR MINISTER,
- 22:44Speaker 1: Marcin Kerswinski initially suggested that the shooter was fascinated by far-right,
- 22:51Speaker 1: ultra-nationalistic ideology. But on Sunday, he had to walk it back,
- 22:56Speaker 1: called it a hypothesis. Meanwhile, circulating online, a few different influencers,
- 23:02Speaker 1: including Joey Manorino, Jack Posobiec, Natasha Montreal, and Wokeness as well,
- 23:09Speaker 1: They suggest he was a socialist extremist. Screenshots said to
- 23:12Speaker 1: be from his Facebook before it vanished showed a rainbow flag,
- 23:16Speaker 1: church mockery, a joke about the red light of communism.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Manorino says he attended Poland's 2020 women's strike. Quoted an
- 23:26Speaker 1: anonymous Krakow police source, says he may be an ultra-left
- 23:30Speaker 1: or an ultra-leftist. Today, a prosecutor spokesman there said it's
- 23:34Speaker 1: way too early. to know what the motivation of the
- 23:38Speaker 1: shooter is. You can't say it was inspired by any
- 23:42Speaker 1: ideology yet. But remember this. A massacre, a president accusing
- 23:48Speaker 1: Tusk of forceful takeover, Poland's top court, a government that
- 23:52Speaker 1: rushed to brand the killer far right, online influencers saying
- 23:55Speaker 1: he was far left, prosecutors saying they don't know. You
- 23:59Speaker 1: still have to wonder whether it was politically motivated. In
- 24:02Speaker 1: that tribunal fight, still watching what's going to happen there.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Can't draw any conclusions. But it's really interesting what's happening
- 24:09Speaker 1: in Poland. The peace is definitely being broken. Joining me
- 24:12Speaker 1: now is activist and humanitarian Vrwanica Rogowski. Welcome to David
- 24:18Speaker 1: Pollak Prime Time. IT'S SO SAD TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING
- 24:21Speaker 1: IN POLAND, NOT JUST DONALD TUSK'S ATTEMPTED COUP OF THE
- 24:25Speaker 1: TRIBUNAL THERE, BUT THEN YOU SEE THIS TERROR ATTACK WAR
- 24:27Speaker 1: SINCE ALMOST 1990. I KNOW EVERYBODY IS SUGGESTING THE SHOOTER
- 24:31Speaker 1: WAS A LEFTIST, SOME IN THE GOVERNMENT ARE TRYING TO
- 24:33Speaker 1: BLAME THE RIGHT. THE REALITY IS THE TIMING CAN'T BE IGNORED.
- 24:37Speaker 1: AND WE HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, IS ALL OF
- 24:39Speaker 1: THIS RELATED TO THIS, WHAT SEEMS TO BE A GLOBALIST
- 24:42Speaker 1: PUSH TO GAIN CONTROL IN POLAND?
- 24:47Speaker 12: Uh, the circumstances are questionable because we've been seeing protests
- 24:52Speaker 12: of Polish conservatives and nationalists because prime minister Tusk breached
- 24:58Speaker 12: the constitution.
- 24:59Speaker 3: He broke the law. People fought for justice.
- 25:02Speaker 13: There are thousands of people day and night by the
- 25:05Speaker 13: constitutional tribunal here in Warsaw.
- 25:08Speaker 3: And people were really, really motivated.
- 25:11Speaker 2: To fight for justice, for democracy, because Prime Minister Tusk
- 25:16Speaker 2: wanted to seize control.
- 25:18Speaker 3: And influence violently by seizing those institutions. And what I
- 25:23Speaker 3: mean by that is he wants to.
- 25:24Speaker 14: Seize those institutions to pass laws that the European Union
- 25:29Speaker 14: is pushing constantly, like the Migrant Pact, to allow a
- 25:33Speaker 14: lot of illegal.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Migrants from Germany, from France, that they would not really
- 25:38Speaker 2: get rid of, to Poland.
- 25:40Speaker 14: To transition into Euro currency.
- 25:43Speaker 3: That is going to destroy Polish economy. They want to.
- 25:45Speaker 13: Seize Polish gold reserves, et cetera, et cetera.
- 25:48Speaker 2: And Polish prime minister Tusk is by their side and
- 25:54Speaker 2: he's really promoting this agenda. And right now this horrible
- 25:58Speaker 2: shooting is happening in Krakow at the same time.
- 26:02Speaker 13: And automatically what they do is they label him as
- 26:08Speaker 13: a far right winger.
- 26:10Speaker 3: To basically portray conservatives.
- 26:14Speaker 6: And the Polish right, generally speaking, as lunatics, as extremists,
- 26:20Speaker 6: as people who are out of their mind, because this
- 26:23Speaker 6: is just a suggestive strategy happening here. But this person
- 26:29Speaker 6: who shot nine people total, including his own family, was
- 26:32Speaker 6: mentally ill.
- 26:34Speaker 13: He belonged in mental health institutions. So basically, first of all,
- 26:41Speaker 13: he wasn't a right-winger. It was already debunked that he
- 26:46Speaker 13: had LGBTQ flags, that he had transgender friends.
- 26:52Speaker 3: He couldn't be a right-winger if.
- 26:55Speaker 13: He was actually associated with those groups, LGBTQ or transgender people.
- 27:01Speaker 15: And also he had connections with like liberal, like the
- 27:05Speaker 15: leftist ideologies and groups. So like, What they are trying
- 27:09Speaker 15: to do is use it as a political weapon to
- 27:14Speaker 15: tell the.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Public, listen, the election is coming. Those people are deranged,
- 27:19Speaker 3: speaking the right.
- 27:20Speaker 13: And that basically also those protesters by the constitutional tribunal
- 27:28Speaker 13: contributed to.
- 27:29Speaker 3: The whole horrible moods in Poland. So they want to
- 27:34Speaker 3: blame us.
- 27:35Speaker 14: They want to blame conservatives for someone who broke the law,
- 27:38Speaker 14: who was prime minister's task.
- 27:42Speaker 3: And he was the one who started the coup, which
- 27:47Speaker 3: this is exactly what it was. And he expected.
- 27:50Speaker 6: People to just surrender and say, this is right, do
- 27:53Speaker 6: whatever you want.
- 27:55Speaker 3: But Polish people are very rebellious.
- 27:57Speaker 13: We are patriotic and we don't want to give our
- 28:02Speaker 13: country away.
- 28:03Speaker 3: That's the truth.
- 28:05Speaker 1: I agree with you, Veronica. I mean, it is concerning
- 28:09Speaker 1: because I think Poland is a shining example of how
- 28:13Speaker 1: to do things correctly in Europe. RESTRICT MIGRATION, STAND UP
- 28:18Speaker 1: TO THE EU, RESPECT CONSERVATIVISM AND ITS PEOPLE. IT'S A SAFE,
- 28:22Speaker 1: BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. YOU CAN GO TO THE CITIES ANY TIME
- 28:25Speaker 1: OF THE DAY, ANY TIME AT NIGHT. YOU DON'T SEE
- 28:27Speaker 1: THE HOMELESS. WOMEN FEEL SAFE. THE CITIES ARE NOT DISGUSTING.
- 28:32Speaker 1: PEOPLE ARE KIND. IT IS THE PERFECT EUROPEAN NATION. BUT
- 28:36Speaker 1: EU HATES THAT. THE WESTERN EUROPEANS HATE THAT BECAUSE HOW
- 28:40Speaker 1: DARE POLAND NOT TAKE THE MIGRANTS THAT RUINED of places
- 28:43Speaker 1: like France or Germany.
- 28:44Speaker 13: They're very upset with how ideal, how perfect Poland is
- 28:49Speaker 13: as a woman.
- 28:51Speaker 3: And I recorded.
- 28:52Speaker 13: Viral videos that I posted on social media about it,
- 28:55Speaker 13: by the way, that women can run in the park
- 28:59Speaker 13: or walk for seven, six kilometers alone at night. Nothing
- 29:04Speaker 13: happens in Poland. and that everybody can feel safe. There
- 29:09Speaker 13: are no robberies, nobody's attacking anyone. There are no homeless people,
- 29:12Speaker 13: no tents with illegal migrants.
- 29:14Speaker 3: We are not invaded. We are like a safe zone.
- 29:18Speaker 3: And we are nothing like the rest of Europe. It's
- 29:21Speaker 3: like Germany, France, Spain.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Those countries are entirely different.
- 29:28Speaker 13: But they want to change it. They want to push
- 29:30Speaker 13: the immigration pact. Because what the Migration Pact says.
- 29:34Speaker 16: That those migrants are going to be moving around to
- 29:37Speaker 16: other European countries, which is, for instance, Poland.
- 29:40Speaker 3: So they already want changes. They want to change the currency.
- 29:42Speaker 3: They want to go after Polish gold reserves.
- 29:45Speaker 13: They see how they can actually benefit from Poland right now.
- 29:49Speaker 3: And to give up.
- 29:50Speaker 16: Also, they want us to give up our freedoms and
- 29:54Speaker 16: our rights in a way, and to subscribe to this
- 29:57Speaker 16: globalist agenda basically, but Poland stood.
- 30:01Speaker 13: Strong, which was very not according to their plan. Um,
- 30:08Speaker 13: and Polish prime minister, previous Polish prime prime.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Minister was, uh, conservative. So he didn't allow it to happen.
- 30:15Speaker 13: But right now task is submissive to the European mission. He, um,
- 30:21Speaker 13: is representing his, he pledges allegiance to the European union.
- 30:25Speaker 13: It's not to the Polish people. which has been obvious,
- 30:30Speaker 13: and he's losing his ground too. So the election process
- 30:33Speaker 13: for him, the re-election doesn't look that optimistic. So circumstances
- 30:39Speaker 13: are very, very questionable of all that.
- 30:43Speaker 11: Yeah. Say the least.
- 30:44Speaker 3: Say the least.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Well, and you're right, Veronica. And this is the thing
- 30:47Speaker 1: we're going to have to watch for, because just like
- 30:49Speaker 1: the United States is a target of the globalists and
- 30:51Speaker 1: communists because we're allowed to be free. Donald Trump was
- 30:54Speaker 1: the target. And then you look at the Vronsky and
- 30:56Speaker 1: Poland and they the left will never allow beacons of
- 31:00Speaker 1: freedom and conservatism to stand because it calls into question
- 31:03Speaker 1: all of their ridiculous policies and all their crime. Keep
- 31:06Speaker 1: up the great work. Keep advocating for Poland. We're going
- 31:09Speaker 1: to keep highlighting all the great things about Poland here
- 31:12Speaker 1: and highlight Tusk's efforts to globalize Poland. We're not going
- 31:15Speaker 1: to let it happen. Thank you so much.
- 31:17Speaker 3: We're not going to let it happen. We're going to
- 31:18Speaker 3: fight and we're going to keep speaking the truth and
- 31:22Speaker 3: exposing the facts instead of the agenda.
- 31:24Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
- 31:25Speaker 3: So I think it's our job, social media right now
- 31:28Speaker 3: and the media like like your media. So I really
- 31:32Speaker 3: have high hopes.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Keep fighting. We'll have you back on to bring us
- 31:37Speaker 1: the updates on everything that's happening. Stand up to Tusk,
- 31:40Speaker 1: and we'll talk again soon.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Yes, I definitely will.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Coming up, President Trump's first sit-down
- 31:49Speaker 1: since the midterms. I'll meet the press. 60 Minutes, what
- 31:52Speaker 1: he said about the war, immigration, impeachment, and what's next.
- 31:56Speaker 1: And later, say it ain't Thune. Congress is back this week.
- 32:00Speaker 1: And then they leave again. Will the Senate finally fight
- 32:03Speaker 1: a rubber stamp? The same guy who's responsible for all
- 32:06Speaker 1: the roadblocks? Stick around.
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- 32:53Speaker 1: President Trump sat down for his first interview since the
- 32:56Speaker 1: midterms went on Meet the Press. It was on 60
- 32:58Speaker 1: Minutes with Ross Douthat. And what the media hoped would
- 33:02Speaker 1: be a surrender tour, it turned into something else entirely.
- 33:06Speaker 1: So let's go through the biggest moments because there's a
- 33:10Speaker 1: lot to talk about here, starting with the biggest one.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Everyone's asking the same question. What does Trump think is
- 33:16Speaker 1: the explanation as to why Republicans lost so big, bigly
- 33:22Speaker 1: in the midterms? Check it out.
- 33:23Speaker 8: Well, number one, I was not on the ballot, but
- 33:26Speaker 8: I campaigned hard for some people. And I think if
- 33:29Speaker 8: I was on the ballot, it would have been a
- 33:31Speaker 8: much different situation. And they didn't like the war, I
- 33:34Speaker 8: think mostly for that reason, because I think everyone agrees
- 33:37Speaker 8: that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and they will
- 33:40Speaker 8: never have a nuclear weapon.
- 33:41Speaker 11: They won't have that.
- 33:42Speaker 1: That's right, he didn't blame the Trump voters. The Trump
- 33:45Speaker 1: voters did show up. They lined up for hours around
- 33:48Speaker 1: the building to see him, the enthusiasm, the energy. The
- 33:52Speaker 1: MAGA base, well, at least what's remaining of it, did
- 33:56Speaker 1: show up. And he wasn't on the ballot. The candidates
- 33:59Speaker 1: didn't transfer. They didn't like the war and gas went up.
- 34:04Speaker 1: That's all true. The establishment spent two years sitting on
- 34:07Speaker 1: Save America and a real agenda. And then wondered why
- 34:11Speaker 1: the energy didn't show up for their ticket. And that's
- 34:15Speaker 1: the reality of what happened on Election Day. Trump's base
- 34:18Speaker 1: did show up. Republicans did show up. Now, some Republicans
- 34:23Speaker 1: went the other way. We saw this.
- 34:25Speaker 6: J.D.
- 34:25Speaker 1: Vance alluded to it in his text message or his
- 34:28Speaker 1: message on X. And we'll talk about that. But really
- 34:31Speaker 1: what happened on that day wasn't that people that love
- 34:34Speaker 1: Trump decided they didn't love Trump. The people who love
- 34:36Speaker 1: Trump still love Trump. BUT NOT EVERYBODY LOVED THE REPUBLICANS.
- 34:40Speaker 1: AND NOT EVERYBODY STILL LOVED TRUMP. AND THAT WAS REALLY
- 34:44Speaker 1: THE HEART OF THE MATTER. BUT AS I WARNED LAST WEEK,
- 34:47Speaker 1: THE ANSWER TO THIS ISN'T TO CHASE THE It's how
- 34:55Speaker 1: to maintain the people who love Trump, maintain that relationship
- 34:58Speaker 1: with the people who lined up around the building, ensure
- 35:01Speaker 1: they show up for Trump in 28, but bring back
- 35:04Speaker 1: the folks that may not love Trump as much as
- 35:06Speaker 1: they used to, and bring back the Republicans that voted
- 35:11Speaker 1: for Democrats. That's the real challenge here. Now, let's talk
- 35:15Speaker 1: about Iran. We talked about this earlier, and it seems
- 35:18Speaker 1: there's agreement about whether or not Iran costs Republicans the midterms.
- 35:24Speaker 1: But it's clear the administration still feels like it was
- 35:26Speaker 1: the right call.
- 35:27Speaker 11: Look. I don't disagree with it.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Other than one thing.
- 35:31Speaker 17: First, did you know he was going to write that post?
- 35:34Speaker 8: He asked me, what do I think? I said, you
- 35:37Speaker 8: write what you want. By the way, what are you
- 35:41Speaker 8: going to write? What's the one thing you disagree with?
- 35:44Speaker 8: The one thing he left out is that I would say,
- 35:47Speaker 8: and maybe he wouldn't say it.
- 35:48Speaker 11: I don't know. I never asked him, really.
- 35:51Speaker 13: But.
- 35:52Speaker 11: If you had it to do again, would you do it?
- 35:56Speaker 11: And that's Iran.
- 35:57Speaker 8: Would you go and attack Iran and take away their...
- 36:00Speaker 8: Because we won that war. That war has been one weapon.
- 36:03Speaker 8: I think, historically, this will be a very good decision.
- 36:07Speaker 8: Is it a good decision for today and tomorrow?
- 36:09Speaker 11: Maybe not. But I would... You know, I have to
- 36:12Speaker 11: go with what's right for our country.
- 36:15Speaker 1: An emphatic yes. It's not popular. It was necessary. It's
- 36:18Speaker 1: what I've been saying all along. That's what a commander-in-chief
- 36:21Speaker 1: sounds like when he puts the country ahead of the
- 36:24Speaker 1: outcome of the midterms. And in the longer cut, he
- 36:27Speaker 1: warned Democrats will kill the filibuster the second they can.
- 36:31Speaker 1: And he says he's trying to get that into the
- 36:32Speaker 1: Republican Senate's head. John Thune, I hope you're listening. But
- 36:37Speaker 1: this is the reality all along. The Iran war, Trump says,
- 36:41Speaker 1: was necessary. He did what he had to do. And
- 36:45Speaker 1: then the president took the issue of immigration head on.
- 36:49Speaker 8: Look.
- 36:49Speaker 11: I think it both helped and hurt.
- 36:51Speaker 8: I think I got an A-plus for closing up the
- 36:53Speaker 8: border because we had 25 million people come in through
- 36:57Speaker 8: Biden over a four-year period. And many of those people were,
- 37:00Speaker 8: as you know, they were from prisons. They were drug dealers.
- 37:03Speaker 8: They were from mental institutions. They were from all over
- 37:06Speaker 8: the world, not just South America.
- 37:08Speaker 17: And some of them, as you once said, are good people.
- 37:12Speaker 11: No, I said that, yes, some are good and some
- 37:15Speaker 11: are really bad. Just to clarify.
- 37:17Speaker 8: You had 11,888 murderers, most of whom, more than half
- 37:21Speaker 8: of whom committed more than one murder.
- 37:24Speaker 11: They were allowed into our country. We've gotten most of
- 37:26Speaker 11: them out.
- 37:27Speaker 8: For getting people out, I get very high marks for
- 37:30Speaker 8: getting the bad ones out. But I get hurt because
- 37:34Speaker 8: we also took people that had good jobs, that created
- 37:37Speaker 8: one violation were breaking of the law, and that was
- 37:40Speaker 8: that they came into the country illegally. Now, there is
- 37:44Speaker 8: a large part of the country that think that they
- 37:46Speaker 8: should be put out, and there's a large part of
- 37:49Speaker 8: the country that think that they should be allowed to stay.
- 37:51Speaker 8: If they're good people working in a landscaping company or
- 37:54Speaker 8: working in a hotel or doing something, right, and in
- 37:59Speaker 8: some cases paying taxes, and there's a large group of
- 38:02Speaker 8: people think that they should be allowed to stay, So.
- 38:06Speaker 17: You think your deportation policy went too far?
- 38:08Speaker 11: I think it was too tough.
- 38:09Speaker 4: It was too tough.
- 38:09Speaker 11: I think it might be too tough, yeah.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Try asking Joe Biden in his second term. Well, thank
- 38:15Speaker 1: God he didn't have one. But if he was the
- 38:17Speaker 1: end of his second term, imagine asking Joe Biden that
- 38:19Speaker 1: question and allowing him to give that intelligent answer or
- 38:22Speaker 1: honest of an answer. Or Kamala Harris, we saw how
- 38:25Speaker 1: she struggled any time anybody asked her to justify any
- 38:28Speaker 1: of her positions. But Trump's right. He gave himself an
- 38:30Speaker 1: A-plus for closing the border and getting out the bad ones.
- 38:33Speaker 1: He did that. I think there's some more bad ones
- 38:35Speaker 1: to get out, too. He did acknowledge he thought maybe
- 38:37Speaker 1: he was too tough. Now, is he reading the brutal
- 38:41Speaker 1: midterm map? I don't know. He's not handing the keys
- 38:45Speaker 1: back to the open borders. But some in the MAGA
- 38:48Speaker 1: base feel like he wasn't tough enough. And that's something
- 38:52Speaker 1: that has to be considered as well. I mean, this
- 38:54Speaker 1: is obviously going to be a conversation we're going to
- 38:56Speaker 1: have in the next two years. But Trump did close
- 38:58Speaker 1: the border. He was successful in doing that. And a
- 39:01Speaker 1: lot of people believe it doesn't matter if they're working
- 39:04Speaker 1: in hospitality jobs or even landscaping jobs or paying taxes.
- 39:06Speaker 1: A lot of people believe all illegal aliens should be deported. Now,
- 39:10Speaker 1: how we deport them, you know, that's a problem for,
- 39:12Speaker 1: I guess, DHS. But I don't know. It's really interesting
- 39:16Speaker 1: to see the president's answer there. He also had this
- 39:18Speaker 1: to say about his enemies, Comey, Pelosi and the whole
- 39:21Speaker 1: crew look.
- 39:21Speaker 11: Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I?
- 39:23Speaker 8: I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy
- 39:25Speaker 8: answer to that is, oh, yes, I could forgive.
- 39:26Speaker 17: No, I don't think it's an easy question at all.
- 39:29Speaker 8: I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people,
- 39:31Speaker 8: very bad for our country. I love our country far
- 39:33Speaker 8: more than I can love people and people like that.
- 39:37Speaker 17: Is the answer no?
- 39:38Speaker 11: The answer is no. I want to be honest.
- 39:39Speaker 17: Before the judgment throne of God.
- 39:41Speaker 8: Before the judgment. No, I think they were very bad people.
- 39:44Speaker 8: And I dislike, I can use the word hate. I
- 39:46Speaker 8: do hate some of my enemies. I think they're They've
- 39:49Speaker 8: been terrible.
- 39:49Speaker 11: Look what they put me through.
- 39:51Speaker 1: They tried to jail him, bankrupt him and erase him.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Forgiveness theater for the people who weaponize government isn't a virtue.
- 40:00Speaker 1: How would he forgive them? He loves this country more
- 40:04Speaker 1: than he loves the people who tried to destroy it.
- 40:07Speaker 1: And he said so basically on television. Over the weekend,
- 40:11Speaker 1: we saw some big news and some high level staffing
- 40:14Speaker 1: changes in Washington as well. And here's what Trump told
- 40:17Speaker 1: Dow that about. situation look?
- 40:20Speaker 8: I love my cabinet. I think they're good. But I'll
- 40:24Speaker 8: be doing maybe a few changes. I don't want to
- 40:26Speaker 8: mention who, because I think— Well.
- 40:27Speaker 17: I will say that we passed— or we saw Secretary of
- 40:30Speaker 17: Defense Pete Hegseth in the hall.
- 40:32Speaker 1: He was meeting with you just before now.
- 40:33Speaker 17: His name has come up a few times as someone
- 40:37Speaker 17: people have called for his resignation.
- 40:39Speaker 11: They do.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Do you have confidence in him?
- 40:40Speaker 11: I do.
- 40:41Speaker 1: He said there'll be a few changes. And just after
- 40:43Speaker 1: this interview, we learned about Miller time at the White House.
- 40:47Speaker 1: He talked about what I thought this meant at the
- 40:49Speaker 1: top of the show. But it's obvious here the president
- 40:52Speaker 1: is preparing for war. He's not abandoning ship. But, of course,
- 40:57Speaker 1: the biggest issue is on voters' minds heading into the midterms,
- 41:00Speaker 1: the economy. And Trump refused to apologize for the record.
- 41:03Speaker 8: Well, it's not really the Iran war because the numbers
- 41:07Speaker 8: are phenomenal. The numbers that we have are historically good numbers.
- 41:11Speaker 8: I think it was bad messaging, maybe by me, but
- 41:14Speaker 8: I would talk about it all the time, so I
- 41:15Speaker 8: don't know how much can I talk about it. Look,
- 41:18Speaker 8: the press doesn't cover positive news for Republicans. They don't
- 41:26Speaker 8: cover certainly positive news For me. So I have to
- 41:29Speaker 8: do it myself. I have to get it out there.
- 41:31Speaker 8: One of the reasons I did rallies was to do that.
- 41:33Speaker 17: But you still won elections, right? So why couldn't you
- 41:36Speaker 17: win this time?
- 41:37Speaker 11: I think it was bad messaging.
- 41:39Speaker 17: What was the bad message?
- 41:40Speaker 11: We couldn't get the word across.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Phenomenal numbers, bad messaging, a press that won't cover Republican wins,
- 41:46Speaker 1: and a Senate that never gave him a finished agenda
- 41:49Speaker 1: to sell. You can't message what Thune refused to pass.
- 41:56Speaker 1: And I think that President Trump is 100% right here,
- 41:58Speaker 1: and this is something I've talked about through all leading
- 42:01Speaker 1: up to the midterms. People didn't feel like the economy
- 42:04Speaker 1: was doing well. The numbers suggested it was, but how
- 42:06Speaker 1: people feel is what matters. Is it messaging? Or maybe
- 42:09Speaker 1: the economy wasn't doing well enough in certain areas. Maybe
- 42:11Speaker 1: it was the Iran war. I don't know. But I
- 42:14Speaker 1: think if this was covered differently and messaged differently, people
- 42:16Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought, at least, that the economy is as
- 42:20Speaker 1: bad as people think it is. Now, there's still work
- 42:22Speaker 1: to be done, but the fundamentals are there. And I'll
- 42:25Speaker 1: leave you with the one that had everyone talking, UFOs.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Why not?
- 42:29Speaker 17: Is there anything that you have seen or heard about
- 42:33Speaker 17: or been told about that would lead you to think
- 42:35Speaker 17: that there's something more there than just we're having a
- 42:38Speaker 17: good time looking at things in the sky?
- 42:40Speaker 8: It's so amazing that you asked this question because it
- 42:43Speaker 8: is one of the questions in private I get asked about.
- 42:47Speaker 11: More people ask me about UFOs than anything.
- 42:50Speaker 8: I mean, people that you wouldn't think.
- 42:54Speaker 17: So here's the story.
- 42:56Speaker 8: I'm not too much of a believer, but I sat
- 42:59Speaker 8: in the Oval Office, first term and a little bit
- 43:02Speaker 8: second term, meeting with.
- 43:04Speaker 11: Air Force pilots that are really good, solid people.
- 43:07Speaker 8: These are not people that you would say are conspiracy theorists.
- 43:12Speaker 17: But then along with those pilots, there's a set of
- 43:14Speaker 17: people who have styled themselves as whistleblowers, who have come
- 43:18Speaker 17: out and said— Actually, there's also a secret program that
- 43:22Speaker 17: even presidents don't know about to study this stuff.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Have you seen any evidence that that is the case?
- 43:28Speaker 11: No, and I haven't heard that. But if there is,
- 43:30Speaker 11: I'm going to find out about it right after this interview.
- 43:32Speaker 1: Listen to Air Force pilots refusing to dismiss the public
- 43:36Speaker 1: and promising to dig if there's a secret program even
- 43:39Speaker 1: presidents don't know about. That was a really interesting part. Look,
- 43:42Speaker 1: he's transparent. It's the same guy Democrats want to impeach
- 43:45Speaker 1: for existing. There were so many other moments for that interview,
- 43:49Speaker 1: but unfortunately, I don't have time to cover them all
- 43:51Speaker 1: for you. But once again, President Trump shows he's willing
- 43:54Speaker 1: to go on any show and at any time and
- 43:57Speaker 1: defend his record. And regardless of what happened last Tuesday,
- 44:00Speaker 1: this is a record of accomplishment. He's not even close
- 44:03Speaker 1: to being done yet. Coming up, Congress comes back this
- 44:08Speaker 1: week and leaves again. Tomorrow morning, Senate Republicans vote on leadership.
- 44:13Speaker 1: John Thune, he thinks he should stay. And at least
- 44:17Speaker 1: five senators want to delay that vote. Is this the
- 44:21Speaker 1: lamest lame duck ever? Let's just say it ain't Thune
- 44:26Speaker 1: after this.
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- 45:13Speaker 1: FOOD. CONGRESS IS BACK THIS WEEK. THEY'LL BE GONE AGAIN
- 45:18Speaker 1: BEFORE THE TURKEY COOLS OUT FOR VETERANS DAY OUT FOR
- 45:21Speaker 1: THANKSGIVING AGAIN FOR CHRISTMAS. COMES BACK, LEAVES. IT'S GOING TO
- 45:27Speaker 1: BE THE LAMEST LAME DUCK SESSION EVER. AND WILL THEY
- 45:31Speaker 1: DO ANYTHING TO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
- 45:40Speaker 1: SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. TOMORROW MORNING AT
- 45:41Speaker 1: 9 EASTERN, SENATE REPUBLICANS VOTE ON LEADERSHIP. AND DO YOU
- 45:44Speaker 1: BELIEVE JOHN THUNE WANTS A SMOOTH CORONATION AS MINORITY LEADER,
- 45:49Speaker 1: NO CHALLENGER, SAME ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAT ON THE SAVE AMERICA ACT,
- 45:53Speaker 1: SAT ON THE JUDGES, AND TURNED THE UNITED STATES SENATE
- 45:57Speaker 1: INTO A ROAD BLOCK WHILE PRESIDENT TRUMP BEGGED THEM TO FIGHT. EIGHT,
- 46:02Speaker 1: POSSIBLY SEVEN TO EIGHT He thinks he should get a promotion?
- 46:13Speaker 1: But at least five senators, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee, Rick Scott,
- 46:16Speaker 1: John Kennedy, and Dave McCormick, they want to delay that vote,
- 46:20Speaker 1: possibly till January. Not necessarily dump Thune, they should delay him, certainly.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Digest the midterm wipeout first and ask what went wrong.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Ask what the conference stands for. Ask what changes need
- 46:33Speaker 1: to happen before Democrats take the floor. Johnson's letter to
- 46:37Speaker 1: conference chair Tom Cotton forces a special meeting. Rick Scott
- 46:40Speaker 1: wants a voter ID commitment before anybody gets a promotion.
- 46:44Speaker 1: McCormick said it straight. Tuesday, it's just too soon to vote.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Too soon to vote. A similar delay failed in 2022.
- 46:56Speaker 1: The conference closed ranks and kept marching. Trump told you
- 47:01Speaker 1: the Senate was killing our country, and he wasn't wrong.
- 47:05Speaker 1: Democrats already have the gavels coming. Jeffries is a hard
- 47:08Speaker 1: yes on going after Pete Hegseth this week. Confirm the judges.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Move election integrity. Finish the agenda Trump asked for. But
- 47:16Speaker 1: watch the unfinished business die in the lamest lame duck
- 47:21Speaker 1: session on record. You might even consider the last two
- 47:26Speaker 1: years a lame duck session in and of itself. But
- 47:28Speaker 1: if tomorrow is just another rubber stamp for the same roadblock,
- 47:32Speaker 1: the same leadership... It won't be because Trump didn't do
- 47:36Speaker 1: his part. It'll be because Thune's Senate did the wrong
- 47:39Speaker 1: thing yet again. Like I said, lamest lame duck ever.
- 47:43Speaker 1: Joining me now is Matthew Hurd, director of professional services
- 47:47Speaker 1: at the Leadership Institute, chairman of the Arlington County GOP,
- 47:51Speaker 1: and a regular on GB News and Supertalk 99.7. Matthew,
- 47:56Speaker 1: welcome to David Pollak prime time. Now you'll be a
- 47:58Speaker 1: regular here. It's Washington. Tell me they're not going to
- 48:03Speaker 1: let Thune continue.
- 48:05Speaker 18: Well, David, as you said a moment ago, this is
- 48:08Speaker 18: the lamest lame duck Congress we have ever seen. In fact,
- 48:12Speaker 18: if the members of Congress were required to have the
- 48:15Speaker 18: work requirement for SNAP benefits, they wouldn't even qualify. What
- 48:20Speaker 18: we're going to see over the next few weeks is
- 48:22Speaker 18: more of the same with only a few areas of
- 48:27Speaker 18: silver lining. We may see more federal judges confirmed. But
- 48:32Speaker 18: everything else is very likely going to be as it is.
- 48:35Speaker 18: You made a point just a moment ago about delaying
- 48:38Speaker 18: leadership elections, and I think it is incumbent on the U.S. senators,
- 48:42Speaker 18: particularly Republicans, to pump the brakes on this and see
- 48:46Speaker 18: what it looks like.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Going into 2027.
- 48:47Speaker 11: To me.
- 48:48Speaker 1: Now, look, I know we're trying to digest last Tuesday.
- 48:55Speaker 1: A lot of people have different opinions on whether YOU KNOW,
- 48:58Speaker 1: THE IRAN WAR HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT,
- 48:59Speaker 1: WAS THE ECONOMY, WAS THE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE ECONOMY, ALL
- 49:02Speaker 1: THINGS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT GOING FORWARD, AND WE
- 49:04Speaker 1: HAVE TIME FOR THAT. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I
- 49:07Speaker 1: THINK UNIVERSALLY EVERY REPUBLICAN, I MEAN, ANYBODY, PEOPLE WHO ARE
- 49:11Speaker 1: NOT EVEN ENGAGED IN POLITICS CAN AGREE ON, IS THAT
- 49:14Speaker 1: THUNE DID NOT DO HIS JOB. WHAT DID HE DO?
- 49:18Speaker 1: THEY SAT ON HUNDREDS OF PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT A
- 49:21Speaker 1: VERY NARROW MAJORITY OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE SENT
- 49:24Speaker 1: OVER TO HIM. AND LOOK HOW MANY SEATS THUNE LOST
- 49:27Speaker 1: JUST ON THAT RECORD ALONE. HE DESERVES TO BE KICKED
- 49:30Speaker 1: OUT OF LEADERSHIP, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE EVEN CONSIDERING
- 49:33Speaker 1: KEEPING HIM TELLS YOU EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH THE SENATE,
- 49:37Speaker 1: AND IT MEANS THEY DON'T CARE THAT THEY LOST, RIGHT?
- 49:41Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.
- 49:42Speaker 18: And what many Americans don't realize is there isn't just
- 49:46Speaker 18: one election for United States Senate in each state.
- 49:48Speaker 1: There are two.
- 49:50Speaker 18: And what I mean by that is voters elect their senator,
- 49:53Speaker 18: and they may elect a Republican who says he or
- 49:55Speaker 18: she is going to go to Washington to fight. But
- 49:58Speaker 18: then that second election is Senate leadership. And it is often,
- 50:02Speaker 18: as you just said a moment ago, where they close
- 50:05Speaker 18: ranks and support people like Senator John Thune, like, for
- 50:08Speaker 18: a long time, Senator Mitch McConnell and others.
- 50:11Speaker 1: This is— this vote, this.
- 50:13Speaker 18: Second vote, is completely shielded from accountability by conservatives, activists
- 50:19Speaker 18: in the states, in red states like Idaho and Montana
- 50:23Speaker 18: and North and South Dakota and Tennessee.
- 50:25Speaker 1: They don't have a say.
- 50:26Speaker 18: Those voters don't have a say in who takes the
- 50:29Speaker 18: Republican banner to the Senate floor.
- 50:31Speaker 1: It's absolutely a shame.
- 50:33Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 50:33Speaker 1: And look, I've had this conspiracy theory and I'm not
- 50:36Speaker 1: the conspiracy theory guy.
- 50:37Speaker 8: Right.
- 50:37Speaker 1: That's not me. I try to call balls and strikes
- 50:39Speaker 1: and I try to bring the audience whatever information I
- 50:41Speaker 1: can let them decide for themselves what they think. But
- 50:44Speaker 1: here's the David Pollak conspiracy theory. So if I have one,
- 50:46Speaker 1: there might be some merit to it. I thought for
- 50:48Speaker 1: two years that Thune was always kind of the guy
- 50:51Speaker 1: to stab the president in the back. You know, when
- 50:53Speaker 1: we look at the numbers and we look at the
- 50:55Speaker 1: fact that this is the first time in modern history
- 50:58Speaker 1: where the president's own party blocked his own recess appointments,
- 51:02Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that he could not
- 51:04Speaker 1: figure out a way to get the Save America Act done,
- 51:06Speaker 1: when you look at THE DELAY ON ALL OF THE
- 51:09Speaker 1: APPOINTMENTS AND ALL THE, IT'S JUST, IT'S A RECORD OF OBSTRUCTION.
- 51:13Speaker 1: IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE WERE DEALING WITH CHUCK SCHUMER,
- 51:16Speaker 1: NOT A REPUBLICAN JOHN THUNE. AND SO LOOKING AT THAT,
- 51:19Speaker 1: AND THEN CONSIDERING THAT THEY EVEN WANT TO KEEP HIM
- 51:22Speaker 1: OR CONSIDERING KEEPING HIM, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU JUST SAID,
- 51:25Speaker 1: THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION FOR A LOT OF SENATORS
- 51:27Speaker 1: IN TWO MORE YEARS. THIS MAKES ME THINK that he's
- 51:31Speaker 1: being rewarded by the Senate, but for a handful of
- 51:34Speaker 1: really bold, patriot senators. He's being rewarded by the caucus
- 51:38Speaker 1: for doing what I believe he was up to for
- 51:40Speaker 1: the last few years. Am I being conspiratorial, or is
- 51:44Speaker 1: he getting an attaboy for doing a good job in
- 51:45Speaker 1: obstructing this president? This is— this.
- 51:48Speaker 18: Is not conspiratorial. You just explained how the process works. Again,
- 51:53Speaker 18: these elected incumbents, these entrenched incumbents circle the wagons, because
- 51:59Speaker 18: they know, in these U.S. Senate elections, if I'm a
- 52:02Speaker 18: Republican senator and I get elected this year, it's another
- 52:05Speaker 18: five-and-a-half years before I have to go before my voters
- 52:08Speaker 18: and tell them what I've done. And only in the
- 52:10Speaker 18: last two years of a Republican senator's time in that
- 52:14Speaker 18: term do they actually start voting conservative.
- 52:18Speaker 1: And so it's absolutely a shame.
- 52:19Speaker 18: There's almost no accountability when it comes to this. And
- 52:22Speaker 18: that's why it is so important for conservative activists to
- 52:26Speaker 18: pay attention to what happens in Washington. That's why a
- 52:28Speaker 18: program like this is so important, and to get involved
- 52:31Speaker 18: in the process. If you've got a senator who was
- 52:33Speaker 18: reelected or is up for reelection in two years, you've
- 52:37Speaker 18: got to start paying attention to the votes now.
- 52:39Speaker 1: And these leadership votes matter. Yeah, it's the most important thing.
- 52:43Speaker 1: And this is so not just who's going to be
- 52:45Speaker 1: president in 28, not just who's going to be minority
- 52:48Speaker 1: leader in the House, but also really evaluating what went
- 52:51Speaker 1: wrong in the Senate. And as a party, if we
- 52:54Speaker 1: can figure out what our identity is going forward, if
- 52:56Speaker 1: we can't figure out how to fix this Senate, I
- 52:59Speaker 1: really think that reflects poorly on the Republican Party. And
- 53:02Speaker 1: I think a lot of people who did show up
- 53:05Speaker 1: for President Trump I mean, it could get much worse
- 53:08Speaker 1: if they have no faith in the caucus in the
- 53:10Speaker 1: Senate that they're going to actually reflect their wishes. There's
- 53:13Speaker 1: a lot to learn here. We're going to be following
- 53:14Speaker 1: this very closely. Matthew, thank you so much for being
- 53:17Speaker 1: here and breaking this down. Thank you. Well, that is
- 53:21Speaker 1: our show for tonight. Make sure you tune in tomorrow.
- 53:25Speaker 1: There are allegations of a big fight. between Susie Wiles
- 53:28Speaker 1: and President Trump before her resignation. I'm going to have
- 53:33Speaker 1: Neil McCabe on tomorrow to break that down. And always
- 53:36Speaker 1: be sure to stay in touch with us on social media.
- 53:37Speaker 1: I'm David Pollak, USA, on all social media platforms. Or
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