Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Malcolm Mays On Decompression From Acting, Writing Credits, 50 Cent, Luke James + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy just hilarious,
- 0:08Speaker 2: charlamage the guy.
- 0:08Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got a special guest
- 0:10Speaker 3: in the building.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Malcolm made actor Michael.
- 0:14Speaker 4: How you feel about bless Man, I'm here with you, yes, sir, Yeah,
- 0:18Speaker 4: actor and writer, Yes, ma'am.
- 0:20Speaker 5: Yeah. So look, so I'm a jump straight into it.
- 0:23Speaker 6: So how much hate did you receive the last season
- 0:25Speaker 6: of Power because you was acting up?
- 0:28Speaker 7: Oh?
- 0:28Speaker 4: Your man's just pressed me in the room.
- 0:31Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Bro came in there and was like, hey, man, so
- 0:34Speaker 4: like I funk with you, but like, I don't funk
- 0:36Speaker 4: with you.
- 0:40Speaker 7: People don't see the role this.
- 0:42Speaker 5: We take it serious.
- 0:43Speaker 4: I mean I take it as a compliment. I told
- 0:44Speaker 4: him in the room. I was like, hey, Bro, it
- 0:46Speaker 4: just means that you really you know, I'm doing my job.
- 0:49Speaker 4: I'm doing my work, so I appreciate it. Yeah, but
- 0:51Speaker 4: I'm I don't even drink, Bro, Like, what is this?
- 0:55Speaker 4: I'm a sober diggie, Like, what is it? I don't
- 0:58Speaker 4: be knowing with your restrictions, know I and all that?
- 1:01Speaker 3: Do People pressure though? When you're in the public, like
- 1:02Speaker 3: really upset with your rule.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Niggas don't really you know what they do press me?
- 1:06Speaker 4: It's you know who press me, not the men. The
- 1:07Speaker 4: women are the ones who are like yo, I can't
- 1:10Speaker 4: like like, I can't believe you.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Would do us like that.
- 1:13Speaker 1: You are embarrassing us, like Aunties is like take it personal.
- 1:18Speaker 1: So it's but it's love though I love it.
- 1:19Speaker 4: I was in the mirt parking that happened to me,
- 1:21Speaker 4: like a woman with her baby and the stroller pulled
- 1:23Speaker 4: up on me, like pull like you're setting a bad
- 1:26Speaker 4: example for the family.
- 1:27Speaker 8: What are you talking me?
- 1:30Speaker 1: What you talking about everybody?
- 1:34Speaker 4: But I realized that all the and I think all
- 1:35Speaker 4: the Power Universe men have to understand it's like you
- 1:37Speaker 4: belong to Black women want you in the Power Universe.
- 1:39Speaker 8: It's just what it is.
- 1:40Speaker 7: Will break that down a little bit more.
- 1:41Speaker 4: You know, everything in the culture to me is at
- 1:43Speaker 4: route black women. Honestly, Like if you just diged, whether
- 1:46Speaker 4: it's Drake, whether it's Paramour, whether it it don't matter
- 1:48Speaker 4: what it is, it don't shake unless they say it
- 1:50Speaker 4: go so like I feel like because this show is
- 1:54Speaker 4: pretty much a modernized.
- 1:55Speaker 7: Black soap opera. Uh huh.
- 1:57Speaker 4: And in all the best ways. Then that means that,
- 1:59Speaker 4: like you know who our main component and who our
- 2:01Speaker 4: main advocate, and therefore you gotta honor that. You know
- 2:04Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you got to accept it. You
- 2:05Speaker 4: in a relationship that you has to be in and
- 2:08Speaker 4: you gotta.
- 2:09Speaker 8: Be okay with that.
- 2:10Speaker 7: How hard did you get that character out of you? Want?
- 2:13Speaker 1: You not?
- 2:13Speaker 4: Like taping is a decompression is necessary? I feel like
- 2:16Speaker 4: for me, I you know, channeling is a thing, but
- 2:19Speaker 4: you gotta. You gotta know who you are. Like once
- 2:21Speaker 4: you know your north start, you can always get back home.
- 2:22Speaker 4: That's so it takes time, but you just gotta I
- 2:26Speaker 4: don't get confused. Some people get confused, Like it's not
- 2:30Speaker 4: like two back of juice and those ship like that,
- 2:32Speaker 4: Like I know who I am?
- 2:33Speaker 7: What do you do to compress?
- 2:35Speaker 8: Really?
- 2:36Speaker 4: My Grandma everything, bro, Like I stay on it. Like
- 2:39Speaker 4: Grandma call every day every Sunday. We have like a
- 2:41Speaker 4: prayer called me her and my best friend rightn we
- 2:43Speaker 4: be going on like we read scriptures and and then
- 2:46Speaker 4: I call my peoples every day. My homies remind me
- 2:49Speaker 4: who I am every day. All of y'all, I'm sure
- 2:52Speaker 4: are the centrifugal force of your family, right, So you
- 2:55Speaker 4: can't be forgetting who you are because they gonna remind
- 2:57Speaker 4: you very quickly every time, Hey, look we got these,
- 2:59Speaker 4: we got Look your cousin's birthday. You got to go
- 3:03Speaker 4: to this graduation. I don't care where or who dj
- 3:05Speaker 4: MV Charlotte, Maine, jes Select. I don't give a fuck.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I'm Rashawn, Sir Rashawn.
- 3:10Speaker 4: With them, though it's tough for me. You know, you
- 3:13Speaker 4: know that hood, text, you know that family. You know,
- 3:14Speaker 4: maybe this is trauma. Don't start listening. But I feel
- 3:18Speaker 4: like a triggered I let you know, don't do it
- 3:25Speaker 4: because because whether I fuck with them or not, I
- 3:26Speaker 4: done did a whole lot of ship that my family
- 3:28Speaker 4: deemed inappropriate. I don't been to jail all that, shot
- 3:30Speaker 4: stabbed all that, and they raised me pretty right. So
- 3:33Speaker 4: I feel victim to my environment. And none of them
- 3:35Speaker 4: ever abandoned me. So I can't abandon them even if
- 3:38Speaker 4: they being annoying, or they fall a short, or they
- 3:40Speaker 4: do something that's even egregious. I can fuck with you
- 3:42Speaker 4: from it, like not fuck with you from a distance,
- 3:44Speaker 4: but I still got Like if you call and you
- 3:46Speaker 4: need that there's friends I don't talk to, but it's love.
- 3:48Speaker 8: So you family.
- 3:48Speaker 4: I don't have to like you, but if you need me,
- 3:50Speaker 4: I'll be there. We ain't gonna speak. I beat the
- 3:52Speaker 4: dig up while I'm there and won't talk to you,
- 3:55Speaker 4: but you're gonna be safe because that's duty to me.
- 3:57Speaker 4: That's what manhood is, which is probably really fucked up
- 4:00Speaker 4: in toxic, but that's how I feel.
- 4:01Speaker 7: But what about when you get them called like, hey man,
- 4:02Speaker 7: let me get five thousand n til next Friday. Mind
- 4:04Speaker 7: you ain't never made five grand.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Like, oh worse than that.
- 4:07Speaker 4: You get through five thousand, it'd be like, hey, you
- 4:10Speaker 4: got a hundred bands.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Were on the radio, is gonna start?
- 4:15Speaker 5: Let me get because.
- 4:17Speaker 4: You know the misconception to see everybody forgets that y'all
- 4:19Speaker 4: get bag money. That's crazy and they think that we
- 4:21Speaker 4: got the money.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, please say.
- 4:26Speaker 8: Is are a big thing?
- 4:27Speaker 3: Yes every morning?
- 4:30Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, I don't go out y'all, but yeah,
- 4:32Speaker 4: like we they think that were rich, Like man, we not.
- 4:34Speaker 8: Most actors are actually not rich.
- 4:35Speaker 4: Actually, my homeboy Matt Hinton, who's a stylist for like, uh,
- 4:39Speaker 4: Rocky Ice Rocky in that and you really cool dude.
- 4:42Speaker 4: He told me not to say nothing stupid when I
- 4:43Speaker 4: got on here. But one of the things that he
- 4:45Speaker 4: said to me the other day, we were shopping and
- 4:47Speaker 4: I was going getting ready for CAN and I usually
- 4:49Speaker 4: dress and slides and a T shirt wherever I go
- 4:51Speaker 4: because I don't really give a fuck, but you know,
- 4:53Speaker 4: put that ship on because I'm going to Can. And
- 4:54Speaker 4: he was like, hey, man, I thought you were broke.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Actors are broke. I was like, Nikka, you mean like
- 5:01Speaker 4: because I'm frugal, I don't have money, Like no, I'm
- 5:03Speaker 4: just responsible. I'm just not out here doing shit. But
- 5:06Speaker 4: he thought I was broke, and he's right. Most actors
- 5:08Speaker 4: are broke like we. That's why the strike was important.
- 5:10Speaker 4: The livable wage for acting and writing is horrendous. Less
- 5:13Speaker 4: than one percent of us work, less than one per
- 5:15Speaker 4: percent of us make more than fifty thousand. And you know,
- 5:18Speaker 4: in any place this apports city, Los Angeles, New York,
- 5:20Speaker 4: anywhere where the hub is, you can't live off that.
- 5:23Speaker 8: So I'm blessed.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Man, I'm fortunate, and I've been blessed enough to be
- 5:26Speaker 4: just kind of like frugal niggas.
- 5:28Speaker 2: So now you said you earn cans where you on
- 5:30Speaker 2: the same red carpet as that security guard pushing people
- 5:33Speaker 2: out the way?
- 5:33Speaker 4: Did they better be glad I wasn't on that car. Yeah, because,
- 5:36Speaker 4: like I said, I don't play be honest.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Did you see that though, how disrespectful she was to
- 5:40Speaker 2: celebrities just trying to take pictures.
- 5:41Speaker 4: French people are rude, bro straight up, and I'll say
- 5:44Speaker 4: it today they ruled now.
- 5:45Speaker 7: Their beautiful relaxed.
- 5:50Speaker 4: I ain't saying that they bad people, because like, hey, look,
- 5:52Speaker 4: New York people are rude, but they have a big heart.
- 5:55Speaker 4: They don't want to give you the directions, but they
- 5:56Speaker 4: give you directions and it's gonna say to me, heyo,
- 5:58Speaker 4: you got to go up the fucking third what the
- 6:00Speaker 4: You don't know what look uptown uptown, but they're gonna
- 6:05Speaker 4: show you.
- 6:06Speaker 8: But they're just saying really roughly.
- 6:07Speaker 4: French people are a little more insidious with they with
- 6:10Speaker 4: their discrimination and all that. Yeah, I have experienced that.
- 6:14Speaker 4: I can't lie and look, I love can I love
- 6:16Speaker 4: the organization and all that.
- 6:18Speaker 8: But but had had I.
- 6:20Speaker 4: Been on that carpet, it would have been a little
- 6:21Speaker 4: different situation. So I'm glad I wasn't there.
- 6:23Speaker 5: Actually, we would have been asking you.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Other questions wouldn't even been no ques, like what are
- 6:26Speaker 1: we talking about?
- 6:27Speaker 7: Bro?
- 6:27Speaker 4: Like, man, they did that to her, they did that
- 6:29Speaker 4: to another woman of color.
- 6:30Speaker 8: Like they like.
- 6:31Speaker 4: But they're in a tough position because they're trying to
- 6:33Speaker 4: move people and some of them don't even understand.
- 6:36Speaker 8: They're not connected to the culture. They don't know that Kelly.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Is to us beyond they're all the same, you know,
- 6:42Speaker 4: like it could have been shelling that muff were not
- 6:44Speaker 4: we're not playing behind them, but they don't really. They're like,
- 6:48Speaker 4: but they have this weird rule where they can't touch you,
- 6:49Speaker 4: but they got to move you. And and Kelly's taking
- 6:52Speaker 4: her pictures because she is a star and she is
- 6:54Speaker 4: on the carpet and she's right, she got boundaries.
- 6:57Speaker 7: They was like move.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Like it was worse.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Kelly wasn't even that bad as bad as the other one.
- 7:04Speaker 2: They picked up her dress and she got to like,
- 7:07Speaker 2: don't touch my touch my dress like it was nasty.
- 7:10Speaker 8: It's pretty bad.
- 7:10Speaker 4: But it's a weird situation for everybody because what you're
- 7:13Speaker 4: going to like they're under pressure from the camp people
- 7:15Speaker 4: who don't give a fox or they're security, but at
- 7:17Speaker 4: some point you just don't touch nobody. Bro, Like if
- 7:19Speaker 4: somebody like I'm not moving, but then you need to
- 7:21Speaker 4: just you gotta take your l take your a. It's okay,
- 7:23Speaker 4: we can all our egos ain't in this. It's just
- 7:26Speaker 4: fucking pictures.
- 7:26Speaker 2: I want to go back from the start for people
- 7:28Speaker 2: that don't know who Malcolm is is, how did you
- 7:30Speaker 2: get started in the entertainment industry as far as acting
- 7:33Speaker 2: and writing?
- 7:34Speaker 3: How did you get started? What made you start loving
- 7:36Speaker 3: this game?
- 7:37Speaker 4: I think it was damn every time I feel like
- 7:40Speaker 4: Charlamagne is just trump like he's just gonna trauma trigger
- 7:42Speaker 4: me every time because because I talked to you know,
- 7:46Speaker 4: when my pops was around heavily in my life when
- 7:48Speaker 4: I was younger and my mom's was still like you know,
- 7:51Speaker 4: like it was like a family thing, like you know,
- 7:53Speaker 4: going to Blockbuster for all those who are old enough
- 7:55Speaker 4: to remember Blockbuster Hollywood videos, going to drive in theaters
- 7:59Speaker 4: like it was communal, it was familiar, and it's a
- 8:01Speaker 4: time before everything kind of went left in my life,
- 8:03Speaker 4: before there was like street violence, before my pops had
- 8:06Speaker 4: to figure it out and did for a second before
- 8:07Speaker 4: things changed. And that's the thing I think that like
- 8:12Speaker 4: connected me to movies because you could go anywhere. You
- 8:15Speaker 4: could be with your family have a good time, and
- 8:16Speaker 4: you could be in the South of France watching James
- 8:18Speaker 4: Bond or watching you know, you know, Mobeta Blues. I
- 8:22Speaker 4: could experience New York in a certain time period. I
- 8:24Speaker 4: could like it was. It was a beautiful place and
- 8:26Speaker 4: where black men and women were kings and queens in
- 8:28Speaker 4: my household on television and on film, and I don't
- 8:32Speaker 4: have I didn't have that experience where they were like,
- 8:33Speaker 4: we're not represented.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I ain't had that shit.
- 8:35Speaker 4: My house was full of black art, black music, black
- 8:38Speaker 4: so it was a place of comfort and I think
- 8:40Speaker 4: I fell in love with storytelling as a means of
- 8:42Speaker 4: transportation and empathy. And from that point, since I was
- 8:45Speaker 4: a kid, I was like five six, I was like,
- 8:46Speaker 4: this what I want to do. I don't know what
- 8:47Speaker 4: this shit is, but I want to do it. And
- 8:49Speaker 4: my mom was like, that's what we're doing, you know.
- 8:50Speaker 8: So it's dope.
- 8:52Speaker 7: Yeah, that is interesting about that era, right cause I
- 8:54Speaker 7: always say the same thing. I'm like, Yo, the conversations
- 8:56Speaker 7: that we have now by not having representation on TV
- 8:59Speaker 7: or not having positive we didn't grow up with that
- 9:01Speaker 7: and the nineties had everything you could want. That's a
- 9:04Speaker 7: black nuclear family. There was lawyers, there was doctors, there
- 9:07Speaker 7: was radio personalities, like there was everything covered on college.
- 9:13Speaker 1: And ship bro like even the movies.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Yeah, like, and it was cross like, it was cross
- 9:17Speaker 4: pollination of entertainment. Like you could see Denzel's poster in
- 9:20Speaker 4: Whitley's dorm.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Room on the Different World.
- 9:23Speaker 4: Before he was Denzel to the world, he was always
- 9:25Speaker 4: Denzel to us. And I think that kind of ethnocentrism
- 9:29Speaker 4: gets lost in the conversation because we we we always
- 9:32Speaker 4: admire in the other side. We always admiring what everybody
- 9:34Speaker 4: else got, which I'm not gonna get on on my
- 9:36Speaker 4: on my black panther, But you.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Just said something that we forgot about.
- 9:38Speaker 2: I forgot about the importance of Blockbuster, right, Yeah, because
- 9:41Speaker 2: Friday night, my parents used to get off work. We
- 9:43Speaker 2: used to go to Blockbuster and they would let me
- 9:45Speaker 2: pick a movie and then they would pick a movie
- 9:47Speaker 2: and then we would watch it as a family like
- 9:49Speaker 2: that was our thing.
- 9:50Speaker 3: And then when Blockbuster got video games.
- 9:51Speaker 8: Oh we were crazy.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I used to be able to get one video game
- 9:54Speaker 3: for oh man, that.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Was that was the thing.
- 9:56Speaker 4: And then when your card, and when your mama or
- 9:57Speaker 4: your daddy forgot to play the bill on the card,
- 9:59Speaker 4: you have to start going to the library or switch
- 10:01Speaker 4: and use your cousin name.
- 10:02Speaker 1: It was a whole situation.
- 10:04Speaker 4: So like man, I used to love and everybody would go,
- 10:06Speaker 4: like you, what movie you watch night? Or like man,
- 10:08Speaker 4: I hope they ain't rent Men in Black two out
- 10:10Speaker 4: or whatever. It was a beautiful thing that I miss community.
- 10:14Speaker 4: I miss us being together. I love when we commune.
- 10:16Speaker 4: And that's why I kind of love things like this
- 10:17Speaker 4: and institutions like this and Stars and the shows that
- 10:20Speaker 4: I'm wanting them too, and because they bring us home,
- 10:23Speaker 4: they bring us together to watch them going into something.
- 10:26Speaker 6: Where you ever concerned about them killing lou Off the
- 10:29Speaker 6: last season?
- 10:31Speaker 5: Did you think that they were?
- 10:32Speaker 1: I don't give it.
- 10:33Speaker 4: No, Like I'm less bro, like I won already, Like
- 10:36Speaker 4: I know, you know, it's so crazy people ask me that,
- 10:39Speaker 4: were you ever worried about dying? I'm like, bro, I
- 10:40Speaker 4: got niggas dying, and really I don't care about them.
- 10:43Speaker 4: I appreciate and love the fact that I got the
- 10:44Speaker 4: ability to experience the crew I have. Pa Tina Miller
- 10:47Speaker 4: is a genius, you know, London. Brown is amazing, Makay
- 10:51Speaker 4: is brilliant, like I love you know, Haley kill my
- 10:54Speaker 4: whole cast and crew sas Chapin the writer Courtney for
- 10:57Speaker 4: incepting it.
- 10:58Speaker 8: All of it is.
- 10:59Speaker 4: We have the coolest cool Like we don't have no egos,
- 11:01Speaker 4: we have no problems, we don't argue, ain't no mess y'all,
- 11:03Speaker 4: don't see us outside. London sometimes talks too much because
- 11:06Speaker 4: he's London and he's a comedian, and.
- 11:07Speaker 5: I was gonna say he'd be staging on the commedity.
- 11:09Speaker 8: He's a comedian.
- 11:10Speaker 4: It's not the same thing. But like, other than that,
- 11:12Speaker 4: like we don't get no mess.
- 11:13Speaker 1: We're gonna be outside.
- 11:14Speaker 8: We be boring.
- 11:15Speaker 1: That's why people don't really we bored as fuck.
- 11:17Speaker 4: We come home, do our work and all that. So
- 11:19Speaker 4: I've been blessed to have a great work environment, to
- 11:21Speaker 4: make a little bit of change doing something I love
- 11:23Speaker 4: and do something interesting and different. If they killed me tomorrow,
- 11:26Speaker 4: I told Sasha, like, bro, just let me know, so
- 11:28Speaker 4: I can, you know.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Shake around with the mortgage. But other than that, I'm good, Bro.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I had a great time. It was beautiful, We had
- 11:35Speaker 1: a great run.
- 11:36Speaker 7: How involved his fifty and everything.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Early on he was he was very much so involved,
- 11:40Speaker 4: and then I think later on he got you know,
- 11:42Speaker 4: like you set it up, you set up a business,
- 11:44Speaker 4: and then you go do your shit, you know what
- 11:46Speaker 4: I mean, put the paint on the walls, make sure
- 11:48Speaker 4: ain't nobody's stealing from you.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh no, it's a good crew,
- 11:50Speaker 1: good workers, but your you know, business, and walk off
- 11:53Speaker 1: like yeah, fifty to fifty cool.
- 11:54Speaker 4: You know he'd be doing this thing. I think he'd
- 11:56Speaker 4: be playing favorites though. Yeah, he played favorites, but he
- 11:59Speaker 4: don't know that. Man do no wrong. In my eyes,
- 12:01Speaker 4: I don't give what he do.
- 12:01Speaker 7: Honestly, you're saying that because you don't think you're one
- 12:05Speaker 7: of his favorites.
- 12:05Speaker 4: Is basically I think that his favorites are based on
- 12:10Speaker 4: like a marketing matrix that he runs in his head.
- 12:13Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like people he would actually
- 12:15Speaker 4: hang out with in real life.
- 12:16Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:16Speaker 4: I can't say for that, but I do know that
- 12:18Speaker 4: he positions things so brilliantly. You know, if you're in
- 12:21Speaker 4: the running, it's because you're making the most money at
- 12:23Speaker 4: the table, or you are aligned with what he's doing.
- 12:26Speaker 4: So that's what's going to get his attention, which makes
- 12:28Speaker 4: perfect sense for marketing for your product. But I know
- 12:30Speaker 4: that for me, I don't care whether he there or not.
- 12:33Speaker 4: His presence has always felt like he nigga changed my life.
- 12:36Speaker 4: I don't give what you're doing save me.
- 12:38Speaker 5: Like in terms of shows, like everything art he be.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Giving people money and ship like fifty is actually the nicest,
- 12:44Speaker 4: sweetest dude ever. And when he be talking to the cancer,
- 12:47Speaker 4: I don't know what that meanstrological sign.
- 12:50Speaker 8: Ye okay, so both y'allless.
- 12:54Speaker 7: People the cancers of crabs. The exterior is hard, interior
- 13:02Speaker 7: it's soft.
- 13:02Speaker 3: People don't know that about it.
- 13:03Speaker 8: It's goind of Nope.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Actually people don't know that about him.
- 13:06Speaker 2: All the stuff that he does, the money that he
- 13:07Speaker 2: gives and how he helps people that they don't know
- 13:09Speaker 2: that part of fifty cent. They only see the cross
- 13:12Speaker 2: the fifty cent he going at you.
- 13:14Speaker 4: And it's funny because he don't know that he like
- 13:16Speaker 4: he he purposely chooses to be delusional about his own fame,
- 13:20Speaker 4: Like he be roasting the shit online and people think
- 13:22Speaker 4: he's like dead serious. And I remember asking him, like, bro,
- 13:24Speaker 4: why you be going up on people? Like, bro, you
- 13:26Speaker 4: you know you realized fifty I don't know why people chipping, like,
- 13:29Speaker 4: you know, we friends, we making fun of each other,
- 13:32Speaker 4: like what's the problem, And I'm like, because you're fucking
- 13:34Speaker 4: fifty cent.
- 13:35Speaker 5: And there's a certain level that he takes into people.
- 13:38Speaker 1: People in the right. Yeah, like that's crazy, but he
- 13:43Speaker 1: just I kind of like it.
- 13:44Speaker 7: Though. It's funny when you say that, you know, you're
- 13:47Speaker 7: I forgot how you're worried it. But the was the
- 13:48Speaker 7: marketing marketing matrix? Marketing matrix? Is it? Because like you're
- 13:53Speaker 7: not in the club, so you know, you can't have
- 13:55Speaker 7: his liquor.
- 13:56Speaker 8: I don't know about that.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I just think that whoever hot and popping and whoever
- 14:00Speaker 4: he's invested the most time and energy in, they gonna
- 14:02Speaker 4: get to be where they at with it. And that's
- 14:04Speaker 4: fine by me because that's how it should be. I
- 14:06Speaker 4: also think that like that doesn't really have anything to
- 14:08Speaker 4: do with like who you are as a person. I
- 14:10Speaker 4: think that has everything to do with what you bring
- 14:12Speaker 4: to the tape, which once again, fifty is very business oriented,
- 14:15Speaker 4: so that makes perfect sense. But of course we all
- 14:17Speaker 4: want to hang out with fifty cent, Like everybody want
- 14:21Speaker 4: to hang out fifty fifties fun. He's a fun guy.
- 14:22Speaker 4: He's still in the club at age whatever, and it's
- 14:26Speaker 4: still lick. So we all enjoy that. But at the
- 14:28Speaker 4: same time, I don't envy or be jealous of his
- 14:31Speaker 4: relationships with people. The people been around for years and
- 14:33Speaker 4: been with him doing all types of stuff. You just
- 14:35Speaker 4: be glad when he comes through, like, hey man, fifth Folk,
- 14:38Speaker 4: glad you showed up. Bro.
- 14:40Speaker 8: You don't have to even do that.
- 14:41Speaker 7: Does it motivate you, like when you're shooting, like I
- 14:42Speaker 7: think you'll in production for Raisin Cannon for not.
- 14:45Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, five on it?
- 14:48Speaker 7: Yeah? You know, So does it motivate you? Like, yeah,
- 14:52Speaker 7: I'm gonna keep doing my You're gonna have to come
- 14:54Speaker 7: up with me Fifth.
- 14:55Speaker 4: Well, well, I wasn't talking about my personal relationship. Fifty
- 14:57Speaker 4: then called me and told me, eight, if you stop
- 14:59Speaker 4: running around, excuse me. Fifty then told me, hey, look, bro,
- 15:02Speaker 4: I know that you're out here moving different. I got
- 15:04Speaker 4: you. You don't got to worry about that. I'll put you
- 15:06Speaker 4: with people, So I don't. I can't say that me
- 15:08Speaker 4: and fifty don't have a relationship.
- 15:09Speaker 7: Hold on out because you were speaking nigga. But then
- 15:11Speaker 7: you stop yourself missing because I.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Remember mad in my head like.
- 15:16Speaker 7: Viral did I run around that burner? Sounded like saying
- 15:21Speaker 7: stop run around to burn and get real secure. I'm saying.
- 15:23Speaker 4: He was like, I'll give you fifties, like whatever you need,
- 15:26Speaker 4: I'll make sure you have it. Brother, And he called
- 15:27Speaker 4: me directly, and if I need him, I can call
- 15:29Speaker 4: him and reach out and he'll text back and all that.
- 15:31Speaker 1: So I can't say that I don't have a personal relationship.
- 15:33Speaker 4: I just know that certain people he got a lot
- 15:36Speaker 4: of people to service, and certain people under the umbrella
- 15:38Speaker 4: of both power music or whatever sometimes feel a little neglected,
- 15:41Speaker 4: and I'm just telling them it's not personal. You can't
- 15:43Speaker 4: take it personal with you. But my relationship fine.
- 15:48Speaker 6: Do you watch any of the other shows Power Universe?
- 15:51Speaker 6: I try, okay, because it's a bunch of damn shows.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Yes, and then for me and then you're not much.
- 16:00Speaker 6: If you're not only doing you're not only doing that show,
- 16:03Speaker 6: you're doing other things as well. But I asked that
- 16:05Speaker 6: because a lot of times I see people like saying
- 16:09Speaker 6: Monita Hada or Raquet, like who is the more of
- 16:13Speaker 6: a badass?
- 16:14Speaker 5: Who would you pick?
- 16:17Speaker 4: That's not fair because you know you're not gonna wrote.
- 16:19Speaker 4: First of all, you're not gonna let me do what
- 16:20Speaker 4: fifty be doing.
- 16:22Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
- 16:23Speaker 4: You're not letting me put two black women against. What
- 16:26Speaker 4: I will say is I'm a I'm a person who
- 16:29Speaker 4: grew up in a very what they call it, tribalist environment.
- 16:33Speaker 4: So you know I'm rocking with gang and can't nobody
- 16:36Speaker 4: fuck with Patina on television, not just against power and
- 16:39Speaker 4: this and that. Like, No, I don't care if it
- 16:41Speaker 4: was what's that white boy move show that's really good
- 16:43Speaker 4: Jason Bacmon show, Ozark, Oh, just as good Ozarks. I
- 16:48Speaker 4: don't give fuck if it's Ozark. I don't care if
- 16:50Speaker 4: it's Martin Scorsese's movie. Nobody, even though Lily Gladstone is amazing,
- 16:56Speaker 4: Patina Miller's top tier period, don't matter.
- 16:58Speaker 8: She heard.
- 16:59Speaker 4: She needs to be acknowledged for it, with the awards
- 17:02Speaker 4: and all the things. He deserves it, so does everybody
- 17:04Speaker 4: else on the cast. So you're not gonna get me
- 17:06Speaker 4: like that. Look love Mary, love love Anti, but we're
- 17:09Speaker 4: not playing behind it.
- 17:10Speaker 7: Why didn't they be fronting on the Stars shows? Though?
- 17:12Speaker 7: When it comes to like the awards and denominations and
- 17:14Speaker 7: stuff like that.
- 17:17Speaker 8: I pleaded the fifth.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I'm just here so I don't get.
- 17:18Speaker 7: Fine, it's the network.
- 17:23Speaker 4: I plead the fifth. I'm just here so I don't
- 17:24Speaker 4: get fine, damn, And.
- 17:27Speaker 8: I say it like that.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Love Stars, Love everything they've done for me. I can't
- 17:30Speaker 4: speak on anything that ain't in my purview. Learning to
- 17:33Speaker 4: shut the fuck up sometimes.
- 17:35Speaker 7: Because Stars has you know, some of the best programming
- 17:38Speaker 7: on television, don't even like to call it black, some
- 17:40Speaker 7: of the best programs.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Outlander was one of my favorite shows.
- 17:42Speaker 7: God that's your herte American Gods.
- 17:44Speaker 1: American Gods was mazing.
- 17:46Speaker 7: I read the book before I saw the show Gaming
- 17:49Speaker 7: Gaming Fan Why I was a fan of that book
- 17:51Speaker 7: because I don't know why. I guess it was the
- 17:52Speaker 7: title and then when I, you know, just looked at
- 17:54Speaker 7: it and I was like, oh, new Gods versus. So
- 17:57Speaker 7: I just ended up reading it. I'm like, oh, this
- 17:58Speaker 7: is dope.
- 17:59Speaker 4: I mean, Neil Gaming been putting it down. He's been
- 18:00Speaker 4: one of my favorite ritis for all times. So like, yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 4: when they adapted that pretty well, even what's his name from?
- 18:06Speaker 4: You remember double Take or whatever what it was. It
- 18:08Speaker 4: was the Eddie Griffin movie with Malcolm Malcolm uh with
- 18:11Speaker 4: the other dude, He's like, really Jamal warned Eddie Griffin
- 18:16Speaker 4: had a movie where it was like called double Take
- 18:19Speaker 4: or some Ship, and it was with this one dude
- 18:20Speaker 4: who's a really good actor but we never remember his
- 18:22Speaker 4: name as fucked up because he's really great. And he
- 18:24Speaker 4: had a scene in American Guys where he went crazy.
- 18:26Speaker 4: He was talking like to the slaves.
- 18:27Speaker 8: On the boat.
- 18:28Speaker 4: Oh, Orlando, niggas amazing Orlando.
- 18:35Speaker 8: He you were a legend.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Bro, Hey, bro, you be stepping on ship like I
- 18:39Speaker 1: need to learn my name.
- 18:42Speaker 7: I know he's executive produced the movie that it's called
- 18:46Speaker 7: eighty eight. It's actually on Stars.
- 18:48Speaker 4: That's hard you are that scene he did in American
- 18:51Speaker 4: Guys where he went crazy talking to the slaves and
- 18:53Speaker 4: all that and was discussing all the hell yeah that man,
- 18:57Speaker 4: that boy. But yes, Stars produces great program I can't
- 19:00Speaker 4: speak towards their campaigns with our culture or the awards
- 19:03Speaker 4: with Emmys and the BAC.
- 19:05Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 19:05Speaker 4: All I know is, you know, I wish that whatever
- 19:09Speaker 4: needs God, whatever's broken, let him fix it.
- 19:11Speaker 8: That's all I can say because I ain't gonna talk
- 19:12Speaker 8: too much about that.
- 19:14Speaker 7: Do you talk to the writing team about where you
- 19:16Speaker 7: want the character loo to go?
- 19:17Speaker 4: Are you just like, you know, I think Sasha is
- 19:21Speaker 4: good about letting us have input, but you let that
- 19:23Speaker 4: man cook. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We
- 19:25Speaker 4: let that man cook, and he just basically because you
- 19:26Speaker 4: think I would have chose to be an alcoholic.
- 19:30Speaker 1: And feeling bad out of no way like that. But
- 19:35Speaker 1: you know, people take that shit serious and I gotta
- 19:36Speaker 1: go home.
- 19:37Speaker 7: And that's I keep hearing that from actors and actresses
- 19:40Speaker 7: nowadays and bugging me out. The first person I ever
- 19:43Speaker 7: heard say that was Making Good a couple of years ago,
- 19:45Speaker 7: and she was saying how she got to watch the
- 19:47Speaker 7: role she played now because people think that's actually you thatand.
- 19:51Speaker 8: Well, there's two things. There's two things.
- 19:52Speaker 4: We know how human beings are bro like, it's all marketing,
- 19:55Speaker 4: even in your personal life. You know, if you dress
- 19:56Speaker 4: nice at school, you become the person who's the nigga
- 19:58Speaker 4: the dress nice at school, and now you got to
- 19:59Speaker 4: keep that up. Like if you a nigga addressed bummy
- 20:02Speaker 4: and you're just nice once, everybody gonna be like, oh
- 20:03Speaker 4: ship Like. People's perceptions are manipulated and marketing is a
- 20:07Speaker 4: big deal. So like, if you want to be seen
- 20:09Speaker 4: as a leader, you can't keep playing somebody that's not. Yeah,
- 20:13Speaker 4: you know, people really don't look at Don Cheetah and
- 20:16Speaker 4: Jeffrey Wright and all the in g and Carlo Esposito
- 20:18Speaker 4: like they're leading men, but they have all of the
- 20:21Speaker 4: same tool sets that that god the Denzel has.
- 20:25Speaker 6: I always say, man, what's his name? Pregnancy brain? Pregnancy brain?
- 20:30Speaker 5: What is his name?
- 20:31Speaker 3: What's love got to do with it?
- 20:33Speaker 5: I turner, what frisch burn?
- 20:37Speaker 6: Until he was movie and then I was like, Okay,
- 20:39Speaker 6: now he's rubbing me up the right way.
- 20:40Speaker 8: Because you hated him.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Yeah, but he did, so that's how great he did.
- 20:44Speaker 1: We was kids and we had and I was scared
- 20:46Speaker 1: of him, like, why.
- 20:46Speaker 5: Is he being up like that?
- 20:48Speaker 1: You know you like boys?
- 20:49Speaker 6: And yeah, I guess I've sayen that later. Yeah and yeah,
- 20:59Speaker 6: oh yeah him angel bad. I said, where parents again?
- 21:01Speaker 6: And boys in the hood because he was the mom
- 21:03Speaker 6: he was in there. But yeah, but you're right, it's
- 21:05Speaker 6: very implement influential, and marketing can be a bitch.
- 21:08Speaker 4: It is because my girl Raven was like, hey, I
- 21:11Speaker 4: seen him as ike at ten. I ain't stop hating
- 21:13Speaker 4: that man since and I was like that man them
- 21:16Speaker 4: been in Apocalypse now at seventeen years old with Francis Sport.
- 21:19Speaker 4: Coppola also that you could sit here and not want
- 21:22Speaker 4: to go watch him because he played the role too good.
- 21:24Speaker 4: And once I've seen that, I was like, oh, like,
- 21:26Speaker 4: you got to position yourself. You got to make sure
- 21:28Speaker 4: you're doing certain things. And so next time y'all see me,
- 21:30Speaker 4: I'll probably have on a suit. And then I ain't
- 21:32Speaker 4: gonna be selling no drugs.
- 21:33Speaker 7: I'll tell you, like, psychologically, how do you check yourself?
- 21:36Speaker 7: You just out in the box? Might you drunk? Rat? Oh?
- 21:39Speaker 7: My ego not it.
- 21:40Speaker 4: I'm not fucking my ego ain't in this. Like my
- 21:42Speaker 4: ego not in this. Like I lived a real life
- 21:44Speaker 4: where real shit happen, where niggas getting convicted and bailing
- 21:47Speaker 4: Jay dotsonsume green dots and jpas and real life shit.
- 21:51Speaker 4: So like, I'll just be happy people are excited about
- 21:54Speaker 4: the show. As long as you don't touch me or
- 21:55Speaker 4: disrespect somebody.
- 21:56Speaker 8: I'm with.
- 21:56Speaker 1: We all good.
- 21:57Speaker 8: Do you think live out your fantasy? Bro?
- 21:59Speaker 4: Just don't touch nobody. I'm Kelly, don't touch me. Touch
- 22:04Speaker 4: I got boundaries.
- 22:05Speaker 1: But other than that, my nig do your shit because
- 22:07Speaker 1: it's just love.
- 22:08Speaker 4: You just confused a little bit, like your life probably, yeah,
- 22:10Speaker 4: way harder than mine right now, Like I know how
- 22:12Speaker 4: it goes. This is what you got, we hear. Matter
- 22:14Speaker 4: of fact, I might laugh with you, like, hey man,
- 22:16Speaker 4: it was tough.
- 22:18Speaker 8: I didn't choose this.
- 22:19Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people relate to that character though,
- 22:22Speaker 6: like that's the character, Lou, that's all real shit, like
- 22:25Speaker 6: it is, a lot of people do relate to it,
- 22:27Speaker 6: and you play it so well. Another show i'm a
- 22:29Speaker 6: fan of is Them Both Season one?
- 22:31Speaker 5: Answer?
- 22:31Speaker 6: Now, you play in one as Calvin. Yeah, yeah, I
- 22:35Speaker 6: love that. A lot of people didn't catch that, but
- 22:37Speaker 6: I caught it and I just loved it, like you
- 22:40Speaker 6: know how you can switch because you obviously have ranged.
- 22:43Speaker 5: And then season two came out.
- 22:44Speaker 6: I thought you were so creative as a writer for that.
- 22:49Speaker 6: It was so many pieces on them to the scare.
- 22:53Speaker 6: How did you tap into that?
- 22:54Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's a team of six people
- 22:56Speaker 4: in one room coming up with one idea, so that helps.
- 22:58Speaker 4: So I'm not going to act like I'm just you know,
- 23:00Speaker 4: and little Marvin being ahead of the ship. Oh, my god,
- 23:03Speaker 4: Little Marvin is amazing. Yeah, and I say that to
- 23:06Speaker 4: say and I'm like, you know, and I'm gonna keep
- 23:08Speaker 4: doing this with Luke because I'm wonder the people that
- 23:10Speaker 4: when I'm wrong, I'm wrong just as loud as I
- 23:12Speaker 4: was when I was right, and I gotta be honest
- 23:14Speaker 4: if I fuck up.
- 23:15Speaker 8: I did not believe in Luke in this role.
- 23:17Speaker 1: I did not.
- 23:18Speaker 4: I did not believe in that man. I argued with
- 23:20Speaker 4: Tony Saltzman, who's the second in the room, and Little
- 23:22Speaker 4: Marvin about like that's the choice we going because the
- 23:25Speaker 4: character description looked nothing like him. The character description looked
- 23:28Speaker 4: more like a young Forced Whittaker. Literally, it had nothing
- 23:31Speaker 4: in Luke is handsome, he got ass, what the fuck
- 23:34Speaker 4: he gonna do?
- 23:35Speaker 7: Like you know what I mean, Like Kendrick, I hate
- 23:37Speaker 7: the Waiting.
- 23:40Speaker 4: As a person because you know, Luke was in an
- 23:42Speaker 4: R and B group when we was kids, when he
- 23:44Speaker 4: was teenagers, and he was singing his ass off. So like,
- 23:46Speaker 4: I've always been a fan of Luke's but I just
- 23:47Speaker 4: never was like, you know, I'm like, I don't think
- 23:50Speaker 4: he can do this, And so I fought like a
- 23:53Speaker 4: little bit I was bumping up against shit. When they
- 23:55Speaker 4: was like, we're not shooting in La was shoot at Land.
- 23:56Speaker 8: I'm like, Oh, this is bullshit.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Then they're like, also we're asking Luke James.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I'm like, I got me who y'all after all this
- 24:03Speaker 4: work we didn't put in to build this story and
- 24:05Speaker 4: how it was. Because if somebody, one actor can ruin
- 24:08Speaker 4: all of the story, it don't matter how good it is.
- 24:10Speaker 4: Y'all got to get up there and say the words.
- 24:12Speaker 8: So I was.
- 24:13Speaker 4: I am humbled and appreciative to be wrong. Being wrong
- 24:16Speaker 4: it's a fun thing sometimes that ship beautiful as fuck
- 24:19Speaker 4: because I was so wrong that man is was. He
- 24:22Speaker 4: did his stuff, he put his foot in it, he
- 24:24Speaker 4: stepped all over it. And I'm so glad that we
- 24:26Speaker 4: had people like Little Marvin with vision and Tony Saltsman
- 24:29Speaker 4: with vision, and the casting directors and a team of
- 24:30Speaker 4: writers who are able to you know, we can disagree,
- 24:33Speaker 4: have differensive opinion and still get a great product.
- 24:35Speaker 7: I respect that because that's not hate, that's not ego driven,
- 24:38Speaker 7: that's man like, we've created this great product. I wanted
- 24:41Speaker 7: to continue to be good. I don't think that's the
- 24:43Speaker 7: person for it, but you you want to be wrong.
- 24:46Speaker 4: I want to be want to be wrong, And I
- 24:48Speaker 4: was did you speak a look about it?
- 24:50Speaker 1: No, I haven't had a chance to.
- 24:52Speaker 4: We've seen him on here Be the first time he
- 24:55Speaker 4: sees it and bro you that nigga? You Heimmothy who
- 25:00Speaker 4: Timothy James Chapter three and five. That's you cause you
- 25:03Speaker 4: got to get people.
- 25:04Speaker 8: They flowers.
- 25:04Speaker 4: We don't see each other, we don't run into each other.
- 25:06Speaker 4: And then I went back and looked at some of
- 25:07Speaker 4: the stuff he did on the shot because I don't
- 25:09Speaker 4: watch the show. Yeah, and I was like, oh, this
- 25:10Speaker 4: last season he was really sensitive and really vulnerable and
- 25:13Speaker 4: playing some weird like doing some things that I appreciate
- 25:16Speaker 4: as an artist because me, I talk shit, but not
- 25:18Speaker 4: about the person. Just like when you said, somebody come
- 25:20Speaker 4: up to me be like your role and like, I
- 25:21Speaker 4: can't believe you did ABNC. I don't take things personal.
- 25:24Speaker 4: So when I critique something, it's literally because I'm worried
- 25:26Speaker 4: about the story, the art, giving our people quality so
- 25:29Speaker 4: that they can empathize with situations they never would have
- 25:31Speaker 4: empathized with, so they can go places they never would
- 25:33Speaker 4: otherwise win because you gotta dispect, like filmmaking and storytelling
- 25:37Speaker 4: is meant for one thing. It's an empathy machine. It's
- 25:40Speaker 4: supposed to make it so that you dispel disbelief so
- 25:43Speaker 4: that you can really believe what's happening, so you can
- 25:45Speaker 4: have a real human experience and expand your mind, your
- 25:47Speaker 4: spiritual heart. So I take this shit for real because
- 25:50Speaker 4: it saved my fucking life, just like Kanye Well's first
- 25:53Speaker 4: album saved my life, just like watching Malcolm X save
- 25:56Speaker 4: my fucking life, just like why certain things change your life,
- 25:58Speaker 4: the unexplainable lightness of being, like these movies. And so
- 26:03Speaker 4: when somebody say an actor, I don't. Yeah, there's personality there,
- 26:06Speaker 4: people who are fun that we like to watch. They're
- 26:08Speaker 4: great to watch their entertainment. But then there's niggas that
- 26:10Speaker 4: make you feel your soul and I don't.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Play with that.
- 26:14Speaker 4: So it wasn't because I didn't think Luke was a
- 26:15Speaker 4: good actor or talented. It's because, bro, this is precious.
- 26:18Speaker 4: I need you to caretaking guide this real. And he
- 26:21Speaker 4: did that.
- 26:21Speaker 6: Ship and that was a very complex role. When I
- 26:24Speaker 6: first when I when I seen him too, and then
- 26:27Speaker 6: I was like.
- 26:27Speaker 5: How the fuck is Luke James gonna be right? Miss
- 26:30Speaker 5: the games?
- 26:31Speaker 1: Like and what why he made himself ugly. I don't
- 26:34Speaker 1: know how he did that.
- 26:34Speaker 5: I don't either day.
- 26:36Speaker 6: And it was amazing because in the in the show,
- 26:38Speaker 6: I don't want to ruin it totally, but he couldn't remember.
- 26:42Speaker 5: He was trying to be an actor.
- 26:43Speaker 6: And the way it unfolded was he really couldn't get
- 26:48Speaker 6: the hood thing down, but he was trying.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Like when he spooked the girl.
- 26:53Speaker 7: It was crazy.
- 26:53Speaker 4: It was crazy with stock and shout out to the
- 26:56Speaker 4: team bro. Shout out to the whole gang game too,
- 26:57Speaker 4: they went crazy. I love him niggas they are we
- 26:59Speaker 4: are deserve our flowers.
- 27:01Speaker 6: Yeah, and even what you said, going back to when
- 27:03Speaker 6: you said one one character can like mess up the story.
- 27:07Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie. And this is my brother man.
- 27:09Speaker 6: When I first saw youm on, I said, what the
- 27:10Speaker 6: fuck is he doing? Playing with somebody play?
- 27:13Speaker 1: He felt like somebody that right, you know?
- 27:15Speaker 6: But as I'm watchingthing like oh ship, like this is
- 27:18Speaker 6: a star study cast for this And shout out to Deborah, Deborah,
- 27:23Speaker 6: she is amazing.
- 27:25Speaker 5: Season one and season two.
- 27:26Speaker 6: I didn't know how y'all was gonna do it. But
- 27:29Speaker 6: I ain't even gonna tell you how to watch season one.
- 27:33Speaker 5: In season two. You your penmanship is amazing.
- 27:35Speaker 4: I just want to give you to be a part
- 27:36Speaker 4: of team. It's number two on Amazon, so like we
- 27:39Speaker 4: amazing our things. So shout out to the gang. Shout
- 27:41Speaker 4: out to dev deb another unhyped ted. I don't know
- 27:44Speaker 4: how that woman does what she does. And don't nobody
- 27:45Speaker 4: say nothing. It's crazy to me.
- 27:47Speaker 1: I'll be like, what are you right do?
- 27:49Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 27:50Speaker 4: Y'all wrote a movie recently that I'm trying to get
- 27:51Speaker 4: made right now.
- 27:53Speaker 5: Is that Covers Covers?
- 27:55Speaker 4: That was a can that was like the short version
- 27:56Speaker 4: of a larger film that I did. They got into
- 27:58Speaker 4: the camp okay, wow to come, which was a blessing.
- 28:01Speaker 7: You know.
- 28:02Speaker 8: The next one's gonna go crazy. It's called Program.
- 28:03Speaker 1: I'm doing meetings on it right now, raising money. It's
- 28:05Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be thinking.
- 28:06Speaker 7: I'm a directed, nice, lucrative, but acting or writing.
- 28:13Speaker 8: Depends.
- 28:13Speaker 4: Now it's now it's almost equivalent. But like because my
- 28:17Speaker 4: quotes is pretty high as a writer because wrote, oh
- 28:19Speaker 4: I'm on your ass, I'm on your ass you, I'm
- 28:23Speaker 4: comfortable with my masculinity. Where's your book at? Anybody notice?
- 28:30Speaker 4: Know what how I get down? Shout out to everybody
- 28:32Speaker 4: else's preferences. First time we came on, Remember I came out,
- 28:35Speaker 4: I was like where Charlemagne at I was on some
- 28:37Speaker 4: I was on bumpers because I lost my with my godfather.
- 28:39Speaker 1: At the time, I was pissed because.
- 28:40Speaker 4: You had made a Dunkey of the motherfucking Day for
- 28:43Speaker 4: New Jack City Too.
- 28:45Speaker 3: Yep, and you thought it was.
- 28:46Speaker 4: A reboot because everybody was saying it was a reboot,
- 28:48Speaker 4: so you made it Donkey of the Day. But I
- 28:50Speaker 4: was trying to tell everybody, It's not a fucking reboot.
- 28:52Speaker 8: It was a sequel.
- 28:53Speaker 1: It was a sequel, yes, not a rebel.
- 28:55Speaker 8: It was a sequel.
- 28:56Speaker 7: What was the premise?
- 28:57Speaker 4: Okay, so well I ain't gonna saying, you know, but
- 29:00Speaker 4: my quote was really high for that.
- 29:02Speaker 8: That was the point.
- 29:02Speaker 4: But New York City Too is basically like years later,
- 29:07Speaker 4: what happened with the people who were still alive?
- 29:09Speaker 8: How about that?
- 29:10Speaker 4: And I wanted in die in it, and I wanted
- 29:12Speaker 4: David Washington in it. And you could imagine who those
- 29:15Speaker 4: characters would be playing, these sons or daughters of and
- 29:17Speaker 4: they were supposed to be on some like you know,
- 29:20Speaker 4: on some like, uh, what's that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio,
- 29:23Speaker 4: Mad Damon and all them people where they was like
- 29:25Speaker 4: going at it.
- 29:26Speaker 5: Oh and Jack Nicholson wasn't in the party.
- 29:29Speaker 4: It was supposed to be more like that, you know,
- 29:30Speaker 4: because that's what I wanted it to be. So it
- 29:32Speaker 4: was more like that. But like when you gave me
- 29:34Speaker 4: Dunky of Today, bro so pissed because I was like, nigga,
- 29:36Speaker 4: it's not even true, like it's a it's a sequel,
- 29:38Speaker 4: it's not a reboot.
- 29:39Speaker 7: I remember that. I do remember now the story. I
- 29:41Speaker 7: remember one of y'all saying, Yo, that dude, Michaelman up here.
- 29:45Speaker 4: Look looking for you, because like, you know, your word
- 29:49Speaker 4: really mattered, like you say, ship, people really be taking
- 29:51Speaker 4: that man. But yeah, my quote got really high after
- 29:53Speaker 4: writing that movie, and so now my quote's pretty good.
- 29:56Speaker 4: But you know, it's not like it's not like you
- 29:59Speaker 4: take that home, you.
- 29:59Speaker 8: Keep most of it, You split that shit up, your manager,
- 30:01Speaker 8: your taxes.
- 30:02Speaker 4: All that like it don't really it get chopped down
- 30:04Speaker 4: pretty heavy and acting in two different states. I get
- 30:07Speaker 4: heavy with the taxes too, So it's not what it
- 30:08Speaker 4: looked like. But I've been blessed enough to put it
- 30:10Speaker 4: all together.
- 30:11Speaker 1: And it looked good.
- 30:12Speaker 7: What happened to that script?
- 30:13Speaker 8: Well, somebody gotta make.
- 30:15Speaker 7: It, because you don't throw scripts away, you.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Just they still have it, they still have the IPI
- 30:19Speaker 4: I hope they choose the direction I went in. I mean,
- 30:21Speaker 4: it's tough because you go on with an idea and
- 30:23Speaker 4: you got to listen to everybody and shift in and
- 30:24Speaker 4: shape it. That's the thing about writing on assignment rather
- 30:26Speaker 4: than writing on spec. When you write on spec, you
- 30:28Speaker 4: know you're your own boss. You're just creating. But when
- 30:31Speaker 4: you write on assignment, you listen to somebody else and
- 30:33Speaker 4: building a house. And I had a good time with
- 30:35Speaker 4: Sheila Walcott, who's now a VP of Warner brother She's amazing.
- 30:38Speaker 4: And then you know it was it was dope. It
- 30:41Speaker 4: was really dope. And Nija Queik Candol who now is
- 30:43Speaker 4: at Netflix as ahead those people, like I said, Black Women,
- 30:46Speaker 4: gave me my first real shot. I was twenty three.
- 30:48Speaker 4: They gave me my shot at writing the studio movie
- 30:50Speaker 4: about Mike Brown. That was the first one. And then
- 30:53Speaker 4: I did New Jack City two and those quotes got
- 30:55Speaker 4: it high. So I can't say that one is more
- 30:57Speaker 4: lucrative than the other, because if I write a TV
- 30:58Speaker 4: show with Terroal McRaney, which I'm doing right now.
- 31:01Speaker 1: That's gonna mm hmmm.
- 31:03Speaker 4: That's a lot of money if I'm just But if
- 31:05Speaker 4: I'm booked the lead of a movie or a show
- 31:09Speaker 4: after this, it's gonna be pretty nice. Yeah, Bok's pretty high,
- 31:12Speaker 4: so it's uh, it can't be very little.
- 31:14Speaker 7: Now. I understand the slides everywhere basketball show, that's writing.
- 31:19Speaker 7: That's writer or time. I don't have time for nothing else.
- 31:23Speaker 7: They be locked away writing, they be comfortable writing. They
- 31:26Speaker 7: come out for coffee, but also.
- 31:28Speaker 1: From lam from South Central.
- 31:29Speaker 4: So like, you know, like if I could all wear
- 31:31Speaker 4: diggies and the T shirt everywhere, I really don't give
- 31:33Speaker 4: a fuck. I just really love fashion. I love when
- 31:36Speaker 4: people put threads together and how we look. I enjoy it.
- 31:38Speaker 6: But to put that ship on, it's like a costume
- 31:40Speaker 6: every day. I'm like, every day, it's so much work.
- 31:42Speaker 8: I know, huh, you're looking at the new balances, you
- 31:45Speaker 8: know what I'm saying.
- 31:45Speaker 2: Just started the show dressing to the tea every day,
- 31:49Speaker 2: and Charlemagne and I said it's gonna last about a
- 31:51Speaker 2: month too.
- 31:51Speaker 3: We said three months. It lasted thirty days.
- 31:54Speaker 6: Yea sweat, Thank you and then I'm also pregnant to you,
- 31:57Speaker 6: like you know, as soon as I dropped dropped the sweat.
- 32:03Speaker 5: I like to be cute.
- 32:04Speaker 6: But after way you wake up, you'd be like, I
- 32:06Speaker 6: don't got time. I gotta do radio at six. I
- 32:08Speaker 6: gotta get up at four every morning.
- 32:10Speaker 5: That's not you know.
- 32:11Speaker 1: That black, that's black people.
- 32:13Speaker 4: We didn't did that to ourselves. You know, we be
- 32:15Speaker 4: on each other so bad you can't wear it. You
- 32:16Speaker 4: feel like you can't get caught in the same outfit,
- 32:18Speaker 4: the same Yeah, you feeling bad for the kids? They
- 32:20Speaker 4: be coming up, pulling up in Rose Roys trucks for prom.
- 32:23Speaker 4: I'm like, what in the fuck have we done?
- 32:24Speaker 7: Yeah, I won't say I feel like the kids. At
- 32:27Speaker 7: least my daughter school, she's in high school. Kids be
- 32:30Speaker 7: comfortable Slidesma pants, Gama pants, my kids love. I'm even
- 32:36Speaker 7: saying to her, like, yo, y'all ain't like how we
- 32:38Speaker 7: grew up. Every day was a fast.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to go for real.
- 32:40Speaker 7: But I like the fact that it's not that they're
- 32:42Speaker 7: not superficial.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Look, I was poor. I went to public l a U.
- 32:45Speaker 4: S D. School and I wore the same black Allen
- 32:47Speaker 4: Iverson's every day, and I had to learn how to fight.
- 32:50Speaker 1: That's how it was.
- 32:51Speaker 4: And then when that's you know, so it's but it's
- 32:53Speaker 4: funny because now I'm a grown man and I still
- 32:55Speaker 4: kind of feel that, like I got to put it
- 32:57Speaker 4: on fresh and and I and it's kind of like
- 32:59Speaker 4: I gotta liberate my so from that like free to guys.
- 33:01Speaker 8: You know.
- 33:01Speaker 4: My boy on TikTok says that a lot. You know,
- 33:04Speaker 4: He's like, you got a free to guys. And it's
- 33:06Speaker 4: funny because I really feel that when I'm like if
- 33:09Speaker 4: I want to put it on, I'm and put it on.
- 33:10Speaker 4: If I feel like not, I feel like not because
- 33:11Speaker 4: it's like it's it's.
- 33:12Speaker 8: In you, not on you. Like I'm me, I'm a
- 33:14Speaker 8: win regardless.
- 33:15Speaker 5: Charl that's his what third time winning T shirt? And
- 33:18Speaker 5: he just.
- 33:19Speaker 2: Crazy, this is the second time.
- 33:25Speaker 5: It's a grain one that you wore to day.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Out for two days in a row.
- 33:30Speaker 3: So like it.
- 33:31Speaker 7: If I like it and it's comfortable, I'm putting it on.
- 33:33Speaker 7: He'd be going to different interviews.
- 33:34Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, you're gonna be in that picture. You know,
- 33:36Speaker 5: You're going to be in this outfit for like all
- 33:38Speaker 5: over the place.
- 33:38Speaker 7: I don't care me.
- 33:39Speaker 4: It's like it's like being athletes. Like we all know
- 33:41Speaker 4: you have money. We saw the content, but it's like
- 33:44Speaker 4: I saw money part. We saw the cont we saw it.
- 33:48Speaker 4: It was public, you publicized it. You'll like talking about
- 33:51Speaker 4: your money.
- 33:51Speaker 7: I've never done that. I've never talked about my money.
- 33:55Speaker 4: Now other people talk about it for you don't know
- 33:57Speaker 4: what about it, even playing.
- 34:00Speaker 8: I don't know what you're talking about.
- 34:01Speaker 1: I ain't got no money, baby.
- 34:05Speaker 6: But the last question I had for you is do
- 34:08Speaker 6: you still do music? Because I know you put out
- 34:10Speaker 6: Street Journal Volume one last year.
- 34:12Speaker 4: But yeah, and I wrote on Brent's album. I wrote
- 34:14Speaker 4: on Joey's album like I work with my friends. I
- 34:17Speaker 4: got some music coming right now, some music with Joey,
- 34:19Speaker 4: some music with my mina. Wally to sen say, oh,
- 34:22Speaker 4: my non profit, I want to mention that. Yeah, I
- 34:24Speaker 4: got a nonprofit call Seel of the Marie Foundation. We're
- 34:26Speaker 4: doing to give back to my neighborhood, in the same
- 34:28Speaker 4: neighborhood I told you about when I first came here
- 34:30Speaker 4: in Jungles.
- 34:30Speaker 8: You're doing that in late August for the kids.
- 34:33Speaker 7: That's not no play play place to come out of brother, No, none,
- 34:35Speaker 7: at all. Jungle is no joking anything about la It's home.
- 34:39Speaker 4: It's for me, So I just want to get back
- 34:41Speaker 4: to him, so like, yeah, so the music has helped
- 34:42Speaker 4: me with that because the music is kind of connected
- 34:44Speaker 4: to my neighborhood a lot. So that music coming. I'm
- 34:46Speaker 4: gonna go crazy when it's time. But I like to
- 34:48Speaker 4: give everybody things and pieces.
- 34:50Speaker 7: Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. The jungle is where
- 34:54Speaker 7: then went train today. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, And
- 34:58Speaker 7: that's what it's really like that like that, It's it's
- 35:01Speaker 7: even more interesting now I'm miss home, you know.
- 35:04Speaker 4: But it's funny because gentrification is such a weird thing
- 35:06Speaker 4: because now we got like white girls, white people on
- 35:08Speaker 4: the like white girls drogging through the hood and jungle bruh,
- 35:12Speaker 4: and the home we be at the part we was
- 35:13Speaker 4: at the park, which I should be, but I was
- 35:15Speaker 4: at the park with the home and they was like,
- 35:17Speaker 4: and I was like, who's this running like that?
- 35:19Speaker 1: Sarah she go to usc blood.
- 35:20Speaker 5: I'm like, what do you mean?
- 35:27Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
- 35:36Speaker 4: But it's the only reason I don't like it is
- 35:38Speaker 4: because they're gonna be displaced to the Inland Empire and
- 35:40Speaker 4: they're not gonna have, like the resources don't change. We
- 35:42Speaker 4: just get brought out, we get changes. This happening to
- 35:44Speaker 4: you know, the people I care about, with everybody, and
- 35:46Speaker 4: I hate seeing it. I'm not you know, I don't.
- 35:49Speaker 4: I don't really hate white people like that. I just
- 35:51Speaker 4: don't like when they do ship.
- 35:53Speaker 7: Because you know what happens to us, Yes, right, when
- 35:55Speaker 7: that happens. When it happens to us, we get pushed out.
- 35:59Speaker 4: You don't have no we don't don't have no job
- 36:00Speaker 4: skill set training like you know, they take all that
- 36:02Speaker 4: shit out the schools, they don't teach us, they don't
- 36:04Speaker 4: update and be like, hey, look the new blue collar
- 36:07Speaker 4: working trade skills is AI Like, they don't.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Switch it out.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Everything's so late, so we're not gonna be able to
- 36:13Speaker 4: sustain anyway. And then, of course, you know, the gap
- 36:15Speaker 4: between the minimum wage and to be able to afford
- 36:18Speaker 4: the American dream now was more gilded than it's been
- 36:21Speaker 4: since the twenties and thirties, which, by the way, my
- 36:22Speaker 4: grandma grew up in so she's able to tell me like,
- 36:24Speaker 4: shit crazy, and I just really it breaks my heart.
- 36:27Speaker 4: And like if I have made, if I like winning,
- 36:30Speaker 4: if I get to like the level of Kendrick conjective
- 36:32Speaker 4: niggas words all that money, I would have bought my
- 36:34Speaker 4: block easy, and I'll make sure people have some sustainable
- 36:36Speaker 4: like teachings to grow so that they could play back
- 36:38Speaker 4: to interest and have a percent ownership of what we have.
- 36:41Speaker 4: I feel like equity is a big deal and we
- 36:42Speaker 4: just don't care. We just be getting pushed out and
- 36:44Speaker 4: niggas be leaving, and I get it because we.
- 36:46Speaker 8: Be killing our own people.
- 36:48Speaker 4: It's a fun It's a fucked up world because like,
- 36:50Speaker 4: look what happened in it when you try to stay sure,
- 36:52Speaker 4: you know, like it's always that and I just I
- 36:55Speaker 4: want so much more for us, absolutely, I really do. Man,
- 36:58Speaker 4: it really be breaking my heart, so I stand sof.
- 37:00Speaker 6: Yeah you know what, speaking of hearts, I have to
- 37:03Speaker 6: ask you this before you go.
- 37:04Speaker 5: I know I said that was the last question.
- 37:06Speaker 1: I know I have to.
- 37:10Speaker 5: Okay, So what's going on with you and Gail Bean?
- 37:13Speaker 8: That's my heart?
- 37:13Speaker 1: Man, I love her, that my personal life.
- 37:16Speaker 4: I know you don't like, I ain't gonna like ourness,
- 37:19Speaker 4: our business, but I love her.
- 37:20Speaker 8: That's what I'm always love her.
- 37:21Speaker 7: Like.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all you guys are.
- 37:23Speaker 8: Gonna do a rom com together.
- 37:25Speaker 7: That's dope.
- 37:26Speaker 8: That's that's what's gonna be next.
- 37:28Speaker 5: That's super dope. So shout out to Gail Bean and
- 37:30Speaker 5: Malcolm's dog. Yeah, love the life.
- 37:33Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate you joining. I was surprised you,
- 37:35Speaker 2: being from Cali, that you went with Drake over Kendrick.
- 37:37Speaker 3: But you know, I didn't.
- 37:38Speaker 4: Say that you didn't play with my top. We were
- 37:43Speaker 4: talking about the level of home this summer. You got
- 37:47Speaker 4: meybody way.
- 37:50Speaker 7: There's only one right answer to that situation, the things
- 37:52Speaker 7: that's subjective that ain't want to The right answer is this.
- 37:55Speaker 8: Aubrey has done great for music. Kendrick is for the
- 37:57Speaker 8: people coaches.
- 37:58Speaker 4: Yeah, when the last time Aubrey was standing for Mike
- 38:00Speaker 4: Brown and all them people.
- 38:01Speaker 8: I love him.
- 38:02Speaker 4: He does great for us, He all that, But like
- 38:04Speaker 4: it's Kate niggas gang.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mad that you.
- 38:07Speaker 4: I hope y'all figure it out. That ain't my business.
- 38:09Speaker 4: But if I have to, like, if you force me
- 38:10Speaker 4: on the side, I don't have a choice. Yeah, riding
- 38:14Speaker 4: with Canada, it just don't make no sense. Record it
- 38:18Speaker 4: stayed on records, and I don't think we'll go past that.
- 38:20Speaker 4: I think that's smart enough. I prayed, Well, you know,
- 38:22Speaker 4: people's egos get into I just pray to everybody. Everybody
- 38:25Speaker 4: figured that shou out be cool. Yeah, it's all weird,
- 38:28Speaker 4: like because Kendrick went crazy on Marmon's room, the.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Like he went on that first tour. He did the
- 38:34Speaker 1: heart and all that.
- 38:35Speaker 4: That ship was beautiful and dope, like, y'all cut that
- 38:37Speaker 4: ship out. We damn near forty on his tripping love y'all.
- 38:41Speaker 4: And if it's like that, then.
- 38:43Speaker 7: But it gave the West Coast. It gave the West
- 38:45Speaker 7: Coast and anthem it hasn't had in a long long time.
- 38:48Speaker 8: And a super slapper. I was.
- 38:52Speaker 1: I was in cann going up to that ship and
- 38:54Speaker 1: that it was.
- 38:55Speaker 8: We was were.
- 38:58Speaker 1: Y'all, Hey, shout out, shout out to that man. It
- 39:04Speaker 1: was aggressive.
- 39:04Speaker 7: I love it.
- 39:07Speaker 8: The best dish records, it's a fact.
- 39:09Speaker 7: Not even close with best best disc records ever of
- 39:12Speaker 7: all time. Come out of the West Coast park hit
- 39:15Speaker 7: him up the energy.
- 39:17Speaker 4: It's the passion. We really disrespectful. We don't like your
- 39:19Speaker 4: niggas respectfully, we just don't. Everybody else's communal. Everybody wants
- 39:24Speaker 4: to hang out kids. You don't hang out with nobody
- 39:25Speaker 4: just push ups on the park. Now, you playing with
- 39:27Speaker 4: a man, leave alone, Leave me alone. Leave anybody from
- 39:31Speaker 4: south central l A alone.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Leave us alone.
- 39:33Speaker 4: Just be nice and leave us. Just please, thank you
- 39:37Speaker 4: guys for having us.
- 39:39Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- 39:40Speaker 7: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.