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To Introduce Our Guest Star - Episode Ten: The Barretta Brothers · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Hello, my name is Johannes and I'm character Clough and welcome
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  to to introduce our guest star on Muppet fan podcast presented
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  by suffix.com in this show Jared and I are taking it in turns to
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  surprise each other with this discussed and this week, hey,
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  it's my turn again. So Jared you have no idea what
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  this is. Correct.
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  Not a clue. Not a clue.
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  I'm real antsy because it's so it's the last episode for the
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  season, and you promised me a good guest for a finale.
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  That's right. My head's been my head's been
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  swimming with ideas. So I assume it's a giant
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  Hollywood star but I guess we're going to find out I guess.
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  So you're gonna have to ask some questions to figure out if it's
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  a star and if so, which started is so go ahead, ask away, all
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  right. Well, I thought as we always do
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  Do Muppets Sesame or Henson Muppets?
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  Okay. Is this person a puppeteer?
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  Yes, and no. Oh God.
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  That doesn't help me. Okay?
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  I had this person work with the Muppets in the last Ten years?
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  Yes, yes, has died. Has a, that's good English.
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  Have they has, they has they work with the Muppets.
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  Have they worked with the Muppets and last five years.
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  Yes, okay. Well I know this person
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  predominantly as a puppeteer Yes, and no.
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  Okay, you are you are not helping me whatsoever.
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  No, I'd because I really don't want you to get this.
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  Okay. Collect collect rolling.
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  Do not even have a remote guess at the moment.
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  All right, you know what, Joe? Well, I truly have no idea.
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  I'm going to I'm going to take a wild stab even though I only
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  know this person as a puppeteer but they came Mind.
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  As I was having my breakfast this morning.
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  Dave Redmon. Hmm, great and incorrect.
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  Guess. Yeah.
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  It was wrong. Let's go Jared.
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  Let me tell you one of our guests today.
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  That's right. We've got two guests.
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  Oh my God. Alright, what one of our guest
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  is a children's book author and illustrator, who once filled a
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  tray of full of water, on Miss Piggy and Joan Rivers.
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  Our other guest has been a dinosaur, a lounge, singer a
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  piano, playing dog, and a king prawn together.
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  ER, our guests have been hosting regular video and podcast series
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  with interviews with Muppet related luminaries Jared.
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  I am extremely proud to introduce our guest stars, Jean
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  Beretta and Bill Beretta better known as the Beretta Brothers.
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  Oh my gosh, to guess it's gonna be so much harder to edit how I
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  missed a Beretta. Hello, I'm a writer so many
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  parameters to many seeing wi you guys.
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  You're the cell. The second Jared I know that you
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  were, well, I mean, I don't make puppets as well as the other
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  Jared. Are you gonna do what you gonna
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  do? How are you guys?
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  This is this is the first time we've had two guests on it.
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  Once it's going to be hell for me to edit, but what's wrong
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  with your voice? It's I'm Australian.
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  That's, that's what it is. People been asking you that for
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  years actually? Wait, why do you sound like
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  that? Do you know it's funny to say
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  that bill I was at work a couple of weeks ago And I had a
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  customer. Tell me.
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  I had the most irritating voice that ever heard.
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  No, yeah. So, just shrill enough to hear
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  what they sound like. Yeah, I was gonna say you're
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  still a bit vulnerable in myself for a while.
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  Was it Gilbert That's it.
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  Unbelievable. I was on a podcast, not long ago
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  where the whole can see, who was that, we're like chatting over
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  lunch. So we're eating while we talk
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  and we're like, this is gonna sound horrible.
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  It's just a kind of magic that's good, but that's okay.
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  That's your, that's your thing. That's your show.
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  You can do whatever you can, do whatever you want recording.
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  Yeah, you're a guy. Yeah.
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  Yeah. We're going to put all this in
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  Jane. He's now you're drinking the
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  juice of all. It's really what were you?
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  What were you eating? Because our listeners are going
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  to want to know since I can't see you.
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  You could be eating anything right now, you know what does it
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  matter? They got to chew and then you
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  could talk. Don't go.
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  Please shish kebab. Yeah.
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  No it was just here. Slices of cantaloupe pineapple.
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  Okay. Okay, Jesus.
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  So yeah guys, I'm gonna be so comfortable.
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  You want to eat and bills have a nice drink?
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  Time to make something sounds, he's making his own Foley right
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  now. Yeah, great.
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  I'll really jack up the sand. When we do that, we have, we
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  started already. Yea, we bang.
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  I'm gonna put in most of this thing, real quick.
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  Little video part. I mean podcast blog, whatever
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  you call it a little. Huh.
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  What's the most of them? Have you have you had like
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  little moments where things have just sort of gone wrong.
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  We all joke always has done, is it's become a running thing
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  where the technical shit was like, just everywhere, for at
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  least the first couple months, we went through two different
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  three. Well, two different, technical
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  Crews. And then we took it over
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  ourselves and add our own problems and So, she needs
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  through every episode. Well, yeah, the fastest thing.
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  Yeah, yeah. Well, you've also you've done
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  episodes where you've had like how many guests on it once
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  already? If I - or Z5 that was?
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  That's insane chaotic. It was so stupid, but it was fun
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  when we do this is over, there were 45 people who made
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  dinosaurs. Oh my God, I thought it was just
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  like 12, guys. In a back of a van.
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  No, there weren't 45 there. Weren't 45 dinosaurs.
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  David but that I believe actually I think there was 130
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  people or something was our crew.
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  I think. You might be wrong about that
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  but somewhere around there. Yeah, everybody that worked on
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  it. You know.
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  So it wasn't even clearly everybody but it was a pretty
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  good group. I thought we had a nice
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  representation of the different departments in groups that help
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  at all come together, you know, and starting with Alex Rockwell
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  being on a plane with Jim, you know, talking about the idea to
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  Brian then carrying it on, you know, and being 28 years old and
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  running a company. You know, it was it was great.
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  And then all the From people that were and that was the
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  thing, right? Jean.
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  Everybody was so excited to do it.
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  They were like, how we going to do this problem, even Brian
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  said, you're insane. There's no, why are you doing?
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  This is too many people how this is going to happen but we
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  figured it out. I thought it went pretty well.
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  What's it been like for you? Then with I mean to show ended
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  early 90s and then also people. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Had sort of forgotten about it a little bit.
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  And then, all of a sudden, it comes back on Disney plus, and
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  there is a massive Resurgence of just love for the show.
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  So, what was that like for you? Say, 25. 30 years later.
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  Well, you know, I knew that we were having an anniversary that
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  was coming up so June and I had been talking about it before the
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  Disney plus stuff right before it came on there and we're
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  trying to figure out how can we coordinate it with them a little
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  bit? But I mean I, you know, I still
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  get to play cards occasionally. Some of the folks from the show
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  we've been doing playing for 30 years.
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  You know, the same, some of the same performers.
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  And so for me it was just getting to see what the hell.
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  It's like, it's like it's his birthday.
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  Look at the smile on his face. He's got it all.
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  Father I really love this stuff. Yeah, I got a roaster.
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  Yeah, yeah. That's James hands hands.
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  The artist, I don't like such a super, super talented guy.
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  Huge Muppet fan. And I mean, it's one of those
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  things where like, there's not enough Muppet merchandise in the
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  world. I think we all can probably
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  agree with that. Yeah, especially the, the b-list
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  characters like we got a lot of Kermit and piggy out there, but
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  like, where's my real stuff and so, you know, I had to get it
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  had to have it, but I like that characterization of him.
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  I like him, with his eyes closed.
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  Yeah, well, he's rolling on the floor laughing.
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  That's what he's doing. Yeah, he's waffling.
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  Yeah. Anyway, nobody can see my shirt
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  right now but you can imagine and it's great.
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  What Bo, sorry what we were talking about?
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  We'll talk about the rest of resurgence of love, for Donna's.
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  Hello. Yeah.
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  Well, I, she's, you know, I was just happy the people still like
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  it and they get to see these episodes.
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  Again, I know I started watching them again.
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  When they came about gone because I hadn't seen them in
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  years and it was fun to go. Oh God, you know, or to go, oh
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  my God, that's amazing. You know, really great.
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  Watch writing. I watched dinosaurs back when it
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  was originally on, ABC, back in the A day.
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  And then, I had also kind of like, you know, put on the back
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  burner for years. I mean, also because I didn't
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  have access to the episodes. And then when it was on, I
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  think, Hulu years ago when I was like, great, I'm gonna re-watch
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  the whole show, you know, get a new appreciation of this thing
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  and I didn't know about how first of all, how smart the show
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  was. I thought I was just playing
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  gonna be like, it's like The Flintstones, but puppets
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  considered, you know, right? It's a cartoon.
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  But it's such a great pest niche of what a sitcom is, and I
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  called like the very special episodes.
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  And the life lessons that are kind of dumb.
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  And like, I'm just smart smart show.
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  I really hope that people like they're not familiar with
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  Dinosaurs or if they think it's just another sitcom, they give
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  another chance because it does. Yeah.
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  Me too. Hopefully it's, you know, people
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  go, oh, it's just puppets and stuff.
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  But I mean, just the animatronic characters were gray and, you
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  know, just think of BP Richfield what a great character just.
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  Oh yeah, just from beginning to end.
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  You know, it just perfect everything came together
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  perfectly for that character and There's there's a lot of them,
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  you know, but the writing was amazing writing was just great
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  when you watch it now, can you watch it with some objectivity
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  or as if you're sure, you know, not even involve driving Billy.
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  Could you, do you still feel every bit of connection with,
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  you know, oh, that was take five.
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  I know, I remember feeling sick that day and, you know, some not
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  a lot. I mean what I, it's funny like
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  when I, when I've been watching a few of them and when I
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  remember them, I don't hear the voices of the people who did the
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  voices on the show except Kevin I hear Steve doing BP Richfield
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  and Robbie and I hear, you know, Mack Wilson, Dave goals doing
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  Earl and Allen Troutman doing Fran.
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  You know because we could I could hear them in my head.
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  We had headphones inside of those heads and we could all
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  communicate. And so that's the thing, I think
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  that I happens the most when I watch these things.
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  It's almost Most like I get thrown at first because I just
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  remember the other voices, so well, and then I get used to it
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  again, but I don't really remember necessarily.
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  Oh, something happened at that point.
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  I was just too exhausted and, and really high all the time.
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  Now, I was told, it's really tired and just trying to get
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  through the days, you know? Just reasonably hot spring in
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  vary between takes you'd open up the Can I blow pot smoke into
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  your face? Yeah, yeah.
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  We gotta breathe, you know, you got to be something.
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  So would they then? Would they doing the actors who
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  were doing the voices? So, Jessica Walters do a plank
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  and were they doing the voices to what you guys had already
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  shot or you sort of mouthing along to what they've already
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  done the beginning. We did a table reads where
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  everybody would kind of show up and we would get to hear the
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  Current actors reading those table reads of the script, but
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  we didn't take those recordings or anything and work to those.
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  We, you know, the guys and the gals that were performing the
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  characters on the set, their voices were recorded on the
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  production track and then the voices that came in to replace
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  them would do that. After the edit was made, you
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  know, in the ADR session but as interesting because at first, I
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  think it was hard to find the balance, you know, you have
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  three people doing one character.
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  For example, you have me inside my representation of what I'm
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  thinking. It should be that.
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  I'm working out with Dave goals or Mack Wilson, who's then
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  performing The Head and the voice on the set, right?
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  So we've worked out what we think the performance should be
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  and then it goes into, have Stewart, do it?
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  And he adds his flavor and at first, I think we're like, oh,
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  you know, maybe That's darn. We meant to do it this way and
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  he probably thought. Why are they doing it that way?
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  It should be more like this and but I think as we got to the
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  second season, we all at least I know Mac and I started to draw
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  from what Stuart was doing and he relaxed I think a little more
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  interested what we were doing and it just found it just
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  started to come together more. So we were all feeding off of
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  each other you know to make it one thing which was great.
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  You know, the it was so fun to see it when it was done because
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  I knew what it was like watching a play back on the set but then
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  to see it when it went on air it was like, oh god, look what he
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  did. Look how Stewart did that?
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  That's great that's that works. Better than what we did.
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  You know it was just really fun to see the outcome.
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  It became a seamless. It really does feel like one
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  cohesive performance which is why I closed that show work so
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  well especially Earl like he's such Right character, Mikey
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  could have just been a, you know, Homer Simpson type, but he
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  really became his own. I think he would, because he was
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  based on Jackie Gleason. You know, I'm people hadn't seen
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  a Jackie Gleason and a long time and, and then Stewart character
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  he took from this old. He talks about it on, one of our
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  shows or maybe to right Gene, he talks about that vaudevillian or
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  like this, like Poconos type of performer, I can't remember who
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  it was. It was some character that he He
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  based his voice on and so that added another layer and he
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  because he didn't want to just do Jackie Gleason, right?
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  So he did this other thing that he was close to him, that he
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  understood and that's what made it.
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  I think really original. Yeah, but it's like that's
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  something that Jerry Nelson told me.
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  Once about a lot of his characters where he is doing
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  impressive, bobbing. Hi.
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  We can talk about that part but sorry.
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  Yes. With a lot of his character,
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  he's doing impressions of famous characters or famous
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  celebrities, but his impressions are not really spot-on, so you
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  can't really tell who he's impersonating.
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  It sounds like an original character that he made up for
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  this Muppet. Yeah, boy.
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  He got his unbelievable, he really was using yeah, easy.
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  Oh my God. That's you know, the crazy
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  Guggenheim and you know, that's Lou Zealand and, you know, the
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  yeah, it is great. Great characters.
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  That Hampshire, he, you know, No show that they're all his yeah.
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  Do you two know who crazy Guggenheim is?
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  I have no, I don't think I do Guggenheim he's.
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  Okay. I figured because of your age
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  but he used to be a character on the old, Jackie Gleason Show up
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  in the 60s and he was a bartender and he would talk to
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  this mr. Gleason.
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  Yeah. It was very like this, you know,
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  and I think he drew from that and also who is there somebody
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  else to that was the Lord that Matt knows somebody else to I
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  think for Lou but I remember It was kind of a Guggenheim thing.
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  At one point there was I, but I'm gonna look it up just
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  because I'm curious because I know we talked about the
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  interview we did with them like oh right, a decade and a half
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  ago but while I'm looking it up so Jean, I don't want you to
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  feel left out of this conversation, we have plenty of
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  questions. I just figured he was one to
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  finish the rice chicken. He was dating and they still
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  eating soon as he's done. So that's really another
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  question. Because I have some lunch and
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  some dessert. I need to get to know.
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  I refuse, we're going to we're going to ask some questions, you
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  you Our storyboard artists on Muppets from space.
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  Is that right? Yeah, I was one of two of them.
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  Yeah, one of two of them. Did you, first of all, I'm
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  curious. Did you get to keep any of those
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  storyboards? And number two, how did you get
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  that gig? Was it.
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  Was it through bill or was, that was exactly under he's gone off
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  the list. Wow!
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  I think the oven rude! Yes!
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  To turn the. Take the pie out of the oven.
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  We it was well, yeah, we were shooting Muppets from.
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  Space. So it kind of came through me
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  but he's, you know, they immediately recognized that he
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  was certainly qualified and he had done stuff before.
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  So it was great because we got to go to Wilmington North
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  Carolina and was the first time he and I had spent probably that
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  much time on a shoot, you know, on a project.
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  We live together for how long Gene can you hear us?
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  It was just like three weeks, right?
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  Are you can find out I thought you.
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  So, we're looking for the storyboard.
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  This is I'll edit old bat's Wing stuff.
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  That really, you don't want to keep this.
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  In all this time the awkward silences, we white.
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  What the hell used to do right here.
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  Okay, but we don't know what you mean by here, and I appreciate
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  the sound effects. All right.
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  Sing beautifully that we never did the beautiful singing voice
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  part on the show, but he says, just the idea of this guy who
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  had a boomerang fish act, it was familiar.
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  Do then he talks about that who the character is not twice but
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  yes, the Dopey voice on tape. Yeah, beautiful singing voice,
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  Frankie content, right here you go.
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  And there. And was that the same chain?
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  Do you know, was that the same guy on Gleason that talk funny
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  and then he would sing with this incredible voice.
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  Sorry I didn't Okay, right, we got to the
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  bottom of it folks. There you go.
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  So wait. So Frankie Fontaine was crazy
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  Guggenheim. Yeah, there you go.
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  So yeah, yeah, sorry. I thought for sure the
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  storyboards were just seconds away but they're not there.
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  After we're finished, this album will show you great.
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  Now back to G. Do you do?
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  You have the, the the storyboards they do exist there.
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  Yeah. I'm releasing your position all
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  of them high. So I'll so yeah.
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  So how did you get that gig? How what was the connection
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  there to get you working on the Muppet from space?
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  I've sent my all of my artwork to build Beretta and he
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  Revere's. Know how you two met?
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  Did you guys meet you? Yeah, it was.
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  Yeah. That was the first time we saw
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  each other face-to-face before that it was all My lawyers, it
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  just see that was 98. So I was I came back to the
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  Philadelphia area. I was living in Virginia for a
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  while and I had done some Sesame Street animations.
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  And so I was talking to Sesame people and then Billy was doing
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  the dinosaurs thing and then he said that they're looking for
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  storyboard artists for Muppets from space, so, Somehow they saw
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  my work I guess I sent it through Billy.
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  Yep. And and and they liked it enough
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  to and I was just there, you know, I think Darren was his
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  last name. Tenant, Darren didn't think
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  didn't lie. Darrin Darrin.
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  I'll get it. But there is, if you're labeled
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  message us, let us know what your last.
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  We Know Who You Are. Was he there the whole time?
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  Because I see, I was only there for the first three weeks
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  because I had to go home. And I had a deadline for one of
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  my Sesame Street animations, and I had to finish that up.
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  So I was in Wilmington for the first three weeks, one of the
• 22:43
  last week of, that was shooting. So, I got to see a little bit of
• 22:47
  shooting, but otherwise, you're doing it all that
• 22:49
  pre-production. So, and, and that, Was the first
• 22:53
  thing that you had gotten to do with with the Muppets.
• 22:55
  Is that is that correct? Gene officially, I mean, not
• 22:59
  aside from from visiting sets and stuff like that.
• 23:02
  Yeah, not yeah, unofficially. They were some background
• 23:05
  characters and things, but who remember the yeah, you know,
• 23:09
  every occasion background characters but the yeah, Billy.
• 23:13
  When did we do the Tinsel Town and all that that was after must
• 23:18
  have been actually? Yeah.
• 23:19
  So I guess that was the first official work I did with them,
• 23:22
  you know? Yeah, cool.
• 23:25
  And then you design a couple bills.
• 23:26
  Those Central Town characters yourself, right?
• 23:29
  I'm being silly stuff. You them star.
• 23:30
  Nice. What the fuck are you doing?
• 23:33
  These guys look like you design the augean Del and
• 23:47
  those Tinseltown characters. Yeah.
• 23:50
  Well first I redesigned the, the Tinseltown characters because
• 23:53
  they already had two that existed.
• 23:56
  And for some reason, they needed to, they couldn't keep those
• 23:59
  exact designs. So I had to really had to adapt
• 24:02
  them because they were next production, they were known by
• 24:06
  Henson. So the are the originally, when
• 24:10
  when Brian and I did a little demo pitch thing for Bobby and
• 24:14
  Sampson, it was Howard Tubman and the bowl that was used in
• 24:20
  Muppets tonight that Jerry did him.
• 24:24
  It was like a bad guy. It was, yeah, it was a Macallan
• 24:27
  Gordon. Yeah, yeah, right.
• 24:31
  So Brian who is that right? Jack.
• 24:54
  Yeah, but you know what, though I would give it to Ryan.
• 24:57
  Ryan would beat me in another trivia.
• 24:58
  So, I'm happy being right there in the middle.
• 25:02
  And by the way, speaking of that, you guys supplied us with
• 25:05
  all the trivia questions. Thank you very much.
• 25:07
  Yes, we did. Yeah, which was super fun for us
• 25:10
  and I know I watched the last one you did.
• 25:13
  I think it's like you guys gave up halfway through because our
• 25:15
  questions were too hard. They were really sorry, what we
• 25:20
  should have done, is we Ryan? I should have been on the A show
• 25:23
  to ask the questions because then we can kind of put because
• 25:26
  when we had one of our questions, which I should not
• 25:28
  have included, this is my fault was in Elmo Saves Christmas.
• 25:33
  Who is he saving Christmas from? And yeah, that's right.
• 25:36
  Question, if you stay because Elmo's one who ruins you make a
• 25:40
  wish and Christmas gets thrown in yes to save it.
• 25:43
  But when you don't have that context,
• 26:22
  Yeah, then there was late night Buffet so I didn't get up and
• 26:28
  see, I'm not the only bad guest. Where's he going?
• 26:33
  Once again, he's going to he's going to get the puppets.
• 26:36
  No, he make these. This is gonna work so well in
• 26:42
  podcast form. Yeah, I know people are so used
• 26:45
  to Vibe cast so so I did the late-night Perfect characters,
• 26:50
  the guests, and then the band. Yep.
• 26:52
  The and then, even though the show didn't get picked up some
• 26:57
  of those characters were used to projects which was nice got to
• 27:00
  see them, at least part of some other shows, like Late night,
• 27:03
  liars, and pop it up and there was another else, but not spuds,
• 27:14
  it's the motto. Yeah, that sounds familiar
• 27:19
  spuds. Yeah, there's also I think a lot
• 27:22
  of people don't know. Well I'll get to this in a
• 27:26
  second. So there's okay.
• 27:27
  So bill is showing us is that is it a statue of?
• 27:30
  So I made these out of clay because I you Them.
• 27:34
  Yeah, I was trying to get a sense of when we were doing
• 27:36
  Tinseltown. I thought I'll make this guy.
• 27:39
  So with this was Howard, right? This looks more like Howard.
• 27:43
  But then we was a great character.
• 27:44
  By the way, I don't hours. I love how it they really
• 27:48
  underutilized. Oh, Howard.
• 27:50
  But after time, I think Disney was a little concerned about
• 27:53
  using him back then. So he wasn't being used a lot.
• 27:59
  So, we were like, well, should we use him or should we create a
• 28:01
  new one? So, at the time, when we We
• 28:03
  first did it. We're thinking maybe we'll get
• 28:06
  Howard and we'll create a new character with the Howard thing
• 28:09
  but then we needed a Sampson. And so I this was my little
• 28:13
  version of wow, I'll hey is excellent.
• 28:17
  Do I have no idea but I'm not, I'm not, I just take out, you
• 28:23
  know. I just get inspired by Jean and
• 28:26
  so then I just try and make something but I don't know if
• 28:29
  I'd seen him up close. Oh really.
• 28:33
  Like his turtleneck, like his eyes, his eyes are really
• 28:37
  expressive and the used to have a little phone cord that went to
• 28:42
  his ear but it broke. I lost.
• 28:45
  No, I thought the only way Billy and I can't say what the project
• 28:51
  was but he and I had a project in development with Henson and I
• 28:54
  designed characters for that. So that's been all my design
• 28:58
  character design stuff and then the storyboards, and here's my
• 29:01
  favorite, one of my favorite subjects.
• 29:03
  Gene, did I have to show you the sorry?
• 29:07
  It's not my favorite but I think we're funny.
• 29:10
  Oh yeah, yeah, we're looking at something.
• 29:19
  I never thought I'd say you described.
• 29:23
  That's like a king describe it. You don't have to describe it.
• 29:26
  We can just leave it for you and nobody else.
• 29:29
  I'm leaving this. Leave it for us.
• 29:30
  It's a wow thing. If you want to know you can, how
• 29:34
  many people Allison? So you let a couple of people
• 29:37
  know your own little thing and grab on, say it after I saw it.
• 29:43
  Yeah. It's not a little either, is it?
• 29:47
  It's a, it's a king-size. Yeah, that's right.
• 29:53
  Still so Bill. The there's not much of a gap
• 29:56
  between your when you were working a dinosaur's doing doing
• 29:59
  Bodywork and you know, background characters for.
• 30:02
  You know, for the show two Muppets tonight when like
• 30:05
  suddenly you're like part of the core cast was there like an
• 30:09
  audition process for you or was it like them know, you're one of
• 30:11
  us. You've got great ideas for
• 30:12
  characters. You're funny.
• 30:14
  We're just going to put you on the show.
• 30:16
  No, no, no. Because we that was all.
• 30:19
  I was about two years later. I guess it's not a lot of time,
• 30:22
  but it was about to Years later. But no, it was, it was just I
• 30:26
  just started doing so. So after dinosaurs, you know,
• 30:30
  like you said, I've been kind of assisting really.
• 30:33
  I wasn't doing a whole lot of background characters I was
• 30:35
  trying to do something and I was watching and just trying to suck
• 30:38
  up everything from everybody, you know?
• 30:40
  And and so I guess cuz I got along with people, you know?
• 30:45
  And we were I had a great relationship with Kevin and
• 30:49
  Brian and Steve and it just was nice.
• 30:51
  And then I was just asked, Insist on something else and
• 30:55
  then I guess I would grab something and play around and I
• 30:59
  don't know, I don't know how it became whatever it became but
• 31:02
  then it was clueless, I guess that well actually sorry.
• 31:06
  No. My I think my real testing
• 31:10
  ground or where I learned the most was being thrown into
• 31:13
  animal show which was before Treasure Island the first
• 31:18
  season. And so that was really about,
• 31:21
  you know, just put on a puppet and do a new character.
• 31:25
  Here's another guest character and just learning how to do
• 31:28
  almost like live television. And so I learned a lot in a
• 31:33
  short period of time because I was given that opportunity to
• 31:36
  just create. I don't even know how many
• 31:38
  characters I did. I think I did 30 some characters
• 31:40
  or something guess that's a lot. Yeah, there's a long list of but
• 31:43
  with you all these years and probably too many, you know, and
• 31:47
  so because it was like I couldn't, I was I was literally
• 31:52
  running out of Voices, you know, but I the characters I could
• 31:55
  think of a new kind of angle or perspective, or an idea for a
• 31:58
  character and where they came from or whatever.
• 32:01
  But it was like I was doing, you know, the I would do kind of to
• 32:05
  hear. Hello, do go to here and then I
• 32:09
  do character here but it was all kind of the same guy, just
• 32:13
  different octaves of characters. So yeah.
• 32:17
  So so that was my training ground, I think and then
• 32:20
  clueless came along and that was fun.
• 32:22
  And I think they saw that I could hold my own there a little
• 32:26
  bit and I know clueless wasn't as written as much as he ended
• 32:30
  up being in the film. You know.
• 32:33
  It was a lot of improv going on in playing around and they used
• 32:35
  it. And and then we had like a
• 32:38
  workshop where in England before Muppets tonight started, it was
• 32:45
  we are finishing Treasure Island, and Brian knew that they
• 32:48
  were developing the show and they wanted to come up with some
• 32:51
  new characters to have around. And so there was this rack of
• 32:55
  Puppets sent, you know, to England, all different, kinds of
• 33:00
  just puppets. It had everybody on it, had the
• 33:02
  iconic characters, you know, the regular characters core
• 33:05
  characters and then it just had little fuzz balls with eyes and
• 33:09
  monsters and bears and and so we would just go into this room and
• 33:16
  Frank was there. And I remember he set up a well,
• 33:18
  we they set up a camera for us, but he basically said all right,
• 33:21
  all right, just grow up. You know, I do a bad Frank
• 33:24
  internship Precision, but those grab a grab, a puppet and we'll
• 33:29
  all interview, I'll ask him questions for her.
• 33:32
  And so, that's what we did. We just grabbed a puppet and we
• 33:35
  went off and he just started asking questions and out of that
• 33:39
  Workshop. Came Johnny Fiamma, Pepe Bobo,
• 33:44
  and Howard. Yeah, well wow, that was the
• 33:48
  Pepe Pepe puppet. Was that something that already
• 33:51
  exists? Because I don't know that.
• 33:53
  The saying that in anything else or that zone that got redesigned
• 33:56
  based on something you done. Yeah, no no Pepe when I'm in
• 34:00
  that Workshop, it was just this wire thing with a flappy wire
• 34:06
  mouth and two eyes. And like I think some feathers
• 34:09
  wrapped around the body was just a string thing and and I was
• 34:13
  just messing around with the character.
• 34:15
  I knew the cat, like I felt comfortable with the characters,
• 34:18
  you know? Because the character is based
• 34:19
  on my wife's aunt and Johnny film is based on my father and
• 34:22
  my And father and right so so I was, I was comfortable with
• 34:26
  characters but the puppets like, for example, Pepe that was then
• 34:31
  something that came out of discussions with Kirk and I, we
• 34:33
  were hanging out and talking about what Pepe could be and
• 34:37
  Kirk was like, maybe he's, you know, a lobster or, you know,
• 34:41
  crab and I said, well yeah could be, you know, he's like he's
• 34:45
  he's kind of manipulative guys, a little shellfish, selfish and
• 34:49
  Kirk. Oh yeah, shellfish, it's it's a
• 34:51
  crab or maybe it's a shrimp and I was No make King, bro.
• 34:54
  Anyway came out of that came out of discussions and then I think
• 34:58
  I think it was a tie. If you did the first design, I
• 35:01
  might be wrong for Pepe and then a guy named Eric Englehart.
• 35:07
  And I getting that right? Oh gosh, Eric Engel heart.
• 35:11
  Yes, there is wrong. Yeah.
• 35:14
  What was that? Yeah, right Darren's brother.
• 35:16
  Yeah yeah. So was yes, sir.
• 35:20
  Eric Engel heart. And he basically built Pepe
• 35:22
  there. Has no pattern.
• 35:23
  He just built him. Don't know how he did it.
• 35:25
  Yeah, but he created this beautiful character Bobo was
• 35:29
  already a bear who had been around in some previous thing
• 35:32
  Haley. Now, he's in.
• 35:34
  What is it? I'm just like, man.
• 35:36
  I'm just a Manhattan. Ya think that he's a female bear
• 35:39
  in that, right? And then we used him in the
• 35:43
  Robert Downey jr. Thing to?
• 35:45
  Oh yeah, mr. Willoughby's Christmas tree mr.
• 35:48
  Willoughby's Christmas. Yeah, he was just briefly in
• 35:50
  that. But yes, a Biblical meal.
• 35:53
  And then Howard came out of a Viking that we were using in
• 35:56
  Treasure Island. And so that was just grabbed off
• 35:59
  of the rack. And Johnny Fiamma there.
• 36:03
  Wasn't there was a puppet. It was a humanist.
• 36:05
  Puppet who looked like Charlie Rifkin who was the CEO for
• 36:08
  Henson at the time. And so I used him as a Johnny
• 36:12
  thing and thank goodness. Jane had made that monkey for
• 36:17
  Treasure Island who became Sal that Brian was playing around
• 36:20
  with. So, Yeah, they some came were
• 36:24
  already existed and then some like Johnny Fiamma then became
• 36:28
  about I sent some drawings to Ed.
• 36:31
  I do I have that have that somewhere guys are just loving
• 36:36
  all these visual examples, aren't you?
• 36:38
  Sorry. Right between lost weight.
• 36:40
  Last week, we interviewed Leslie Kerr, our Rudolph and all it was
• 36:45
  all just Visual and there's a lot of background noise at one
• 36:48
  point. Her husband was using the
• 36:49
  microwave. So, if so, I think it Not but
• 36:53
  even like humanity and environment at machine so it's
• 36:57
  so yes. Why not?
• 37:00
  It's a yes so I sent Ed I think or gay, I can remember how he
• 37:04
  got them but I sent him because I when Jean and I when we used
• 37:10
  to do Johnny Fiamma and his brother Frankie Fiamma that's
• 37:13
  where the character came from. Johnny I was doing as myself and
• 37:17
  then Jean came out to LA and and we started doing them together.
• 37:22
  Her. And so, I would, when I was
• 37:25
  doing it as a puppet years later, I couldn't see him other
• 37:30
  than kind of me, you know, like, I wanted to see a version of me
• 37:33
  in a sense when I looked in the camera.
• 37:36
  And I know a lot, I couldn't just do me, but then I got
• 37:39
  DeNiro from casino and I used a photo of him and then a photo of
• 37:44
  me and then Ed kind of mashed them together.
• 37:47
  And so, that's kind of where that design came from.
• 37:51
  Love it. And I love the That Jonny has
• 37:54
  just one eyebrow that goes up. I think it gives him so much
• 37:56
  character that we actually has the access to moving eyebrows.
• 38:01
  There's a little individual independently.
• 38:04
  Yeah, one is always up right on that angle usually that's his
• 38:07
  neutral and then I can have him do like a that kind of thing
• 38:11
  where it's, you know, little excuse me, a little surprised
• 38:14
  where I can have them. Go flat, where he's a little
• 38:16
  annoyed at cell either I can reverse it.
• 38:19
  But yeah he's got that great mechanism makes other Because I
• 38:24
  do normally is there's just one little thing in your pinky for
• 38:27
  an island or something like that.
• 38:29
  Yeah, it's too. It's on the rod.
• 38:32
  I tape it. No troll comes out of his head
• 38:35
  and I tape it to the hand rod and I operate one with this
• 38:39
  finger and one with the thumb you know, it's kind of both nice
• 38:43
  for. That's cool.
• 38:44
  Yeah. Johnny's a character that
• 38:46
  doesn't get used really anymore. Is that?
• 38:49
  Because you haven't got Brian to bounce off with Sal or Is that
• 38:53
  just for other reasons, is there another character you can see
• 38:56
  filling the Celluloid. He's well, Johnny's and saw both
• 39:01
  were toast there. The insides kind of
• 39:03
  disintegrated after so many years.
• 39:04
  So they had to be refurbished and they just weren't at the top
• 39:10
  of the list, you know, for Disney to use in anything so
• 39:13
  they didn't put the money into it to fix them.
• 39:15
  But I will say they have been refurbished.
• 39:19
  Oh, okay. Okay, for reasons for actual
• 39:24
  reasons that maybe we can talk about right now and here it is.
• 39:27
  I think I hope. Yeah.
• 39:29
  I think you know, it was just I think time to maybe try and do
• 39:34
  something with them if we can. And so, yeah, the new Muppet
• 39:38
  studio folks are into getting characters back and having some
• 39:43
  more fun with characters that haven't been around for a while.
• 39:45
  And so they were pretty nice enough to invest in that.
• 39:48
  So we do have them being referred to, you know.
• 39:52
  Well, here's my question about Johnny.
• 39:55
  Do you think you can work without cell or do you think
• 39:59
  Johnny only works as a Duo? I think so hardly.
• 40:03
  Salas. Johnny needs Sal desperately.
• 40:06
  You know. It's only can't survive.
• 40:09
  But if Tony Bennett asked Jonny to go on the road with Tim, he
• 40:15
  desk for Sal to come with him, he would need salary.
• 40:19
  If you too nervous to do it on his own, I think and maybe his
• 40:23
  mom can come to Mama or at least just send food, you know?
• 40:27
  But I I just think they're, they're just one they need each
• 40:32
  other. They both, you know, they just
• 40:34
  don't fit their like, genes or Gene Dean and Jerry.
• 40:39
  Speaking of Gene you renamed, I assumed it was you who did it
• 40:43
  though, but you renamed an established character after Jean
• 40:48
  with Behemoth who became Gene. Did you have to go like approval
• 40:51
  for that? Because you just do it and it's
• 40:54
  now, it's Cannon. It's done.
• 40:55
  They still don't know. They still call him Behemoth and
• 40:57
  I still say brilliant. It's an ongoing thing on the
• 41:00
  set. Yeah, I will still call him
• 41:01
  Jane. Isn't it Gene in the Muppet
• 41:04
  encyclopedia that Craig did. Yeah, it is.
• 41:07
  Yes, it is. I think so.
• 41:07
  Yeah. But it's like they say his name,
• 41:30
  Yeah, there's a couple of Eugene's, right?
• 41:32
  Yeah, there's Eugene the hunting dog that was in an emotion as a
• 41:35
  tuba player, right from. Right from Muppet Christmas.
• 41:41
  Yeah, that's pretty. It's a pretty big deal.
• 41:43
  That Eugene you have three characters named.
• 41:45
  After you, I had a zero. You have three, got nothing
• 41:50
  rustling whistle. I've got nothing.
• 42:02
  As in. Do you think you think they
• 42:06
  named it Jarrod? There's Jared, the corn on the
• 42:09
  cob, have you heard of him? I haven't.
• 42:11
  So I'm gonna have to I'm going to have to take your word for it
• 42:15
  and cry when I realize you've lied Jared.
• 42:18
  The corner character that will be now the will be.
• 42:21
  Now there's Chad, its Cannon a joke, there's a farewell of it
• 42:26
  passes by in one of the scenes that they call Jared.
• 42:29
  Oh God. Excellent.
• 42:32
  Well, I have I have a slight bone to pick with you Jane, if I
• 42:34
  can what's going on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to have to ask you, I
• 42:41
  am wearing a Bugs, Bunny jamas, yes, I also have my sweatpants,
• 42:48
  I like them, not on Earth but yes, thank you today, have
• 42:50
  Bounty, they don't. But now I'm just years now at
• 42:55
  that. Have anything like hell Heath
• 42:57
  they were very expensive, right? Let's go.
• 42:59
  What You say white, sorry but can you just say in your
• 43:03
  Australian accent? What's up?
• 43:04
  Doc in a Bugs Bunny Voice or just as myself just as yourself.
• 43:09
  What's up, doc? You didn't Classics to give a
• 43:15
  talk that's going on, Daffy rabbit, impression for Bill and
• 43:24
  Jean because I know you have one rabbit impression.
• 43:27
  Is that what I do here? Yeah.
• 43:28
  Yeah yeah. There it is another that'll work
• 43:33
  on visual. If you want to say it I do do
• 43:34
  that in my in my interview with Elmo you can go and watch that.
• 43:39
  Okay? No.
• 43:39
  Like my wouldn't be. Wouldn't it be?
• 43:42
  What's up? Mate.
• 43:44
  What's up, bro? So Jane, yeah, a couple of years
• 43:51
  ago you Illustrated the book. Alright.
• 43:54
  Nails during the book and there was one particular thing that
• 43:58
  had a bunch of Muppets. I didn't know you and Peter are.
• 44:02
  Well, I just say because I was well established by that point,
• 44:06
  and there were other people in there, you know, Joe's in there,
• 44:08
  Ryan's in You know what happened?
• 44:10
  Dave Hall teens in there and there is no Australian.
• 44:13
  So if it's here's what happened, by the way, this is the bat
• 44:18
  combat. There was one space left and I
• 44:23
  asked Joe if you had any thoughts and he said, oh, I'm
• 44:25
  not in there yet, use me and because I had you on the list
• 44:29
  and he pulled his own name. And oh yeah.
• 44:31
  Yeah, I had fun. They're not Joe.
• 44:34
  So he thought Paris up. Okay.
• 44:37
  All right, sir. Yeah, so I don't be under the
• 44:38
  white team. Yeah, that's not just because
• 44:46
  like you thought of me and some of the fans like that, but like
• 44:50
  the cast of characters that are in this scene, like every
• 44:53
  puppets here, and Jim and Frank. And there's you through Muppets
• 44:57
  in there. Like, I'm so honored to be a
• 44:59
  part of that group. It's there are huge for me, so,
• 45:03
  thank you. There are a few people that I
• 45:05
  missed that. I didn't know that well, but
• 45:09
  would have nice to like Jared like in a reprint.
• 45:12
  Maybe I'll add a few. Frank just put me over Joe.
• 45:17
  Oh yeah, it's fine. I got mine.
• 45:19
  I'm good. Yeah, people know what I look
• 45:22
  like? You don't need to answer that.
• 45:23
  That's all right. Did you have to get like special
• 45:28
  permission to get like Bobo in there or was that you just did
• 45:31
  it? You know, I don't think anybody
• 45:32
  knows, there's spanked and they do now, they're going to hear it
• 45:36
  in this, in this podcast, I'm sending this directly to Baba
• 45:40
  Yaga. Yeah, I know there's or jota
• 45:43
  legal weasel. He's gonna.
• 45:45
  Yep. Everybody that I know at some
• 45:53
  point. Yeah.
• 45:56
  Every single book has, if you know me and your friends you'll
• 45:59
  end up in there eventually. Yeah.
• 46:01
  So I'll decide by the end of the interview if I like Jared and
• 46:04
  not. Well, do I need to do more bad
• 46:08
  Australian Impressions that what you need us?
• 46:10
  Can you do Al more fun? Thud with an Australian accent,
• 46:14
  all be very, very quiet night. I was much better in your life.
• 46:39
  If you go to Muppet, Wiki you go to my page, there's a link to
• 46:43
  some of the images of from those Muppet images from the book.
• 46:47
  Oh yeah. With a guide that tells you
• 46:49
  who's ooh. Yeah.
• 46:51
  And are so Jean. Aren't do you have your?
• 46:53
  Are there any storyboards on your website from what?
• 46:57
  Muppets from space. There's a couple of images.
• 47:00
  Yeah, right. Yeah, there's a few.
• 47:01
  All right there. Go great.
• 47:04
  It's in the gallery section. Yeah.
• 47:06
  Jane you, you right-handed for for Louis, at one point on Fox
• 47:12
  and Friends. Some ways, I feel like I've
• 47:17
  heard very, very briefly, was it a bit of a debacle?
• 47:20
  I've never really heard the story.
• 47:22
  Well, somebody else was supposed to be there that morning to do
• 47:26
  the hand, I want to say who and I was visiting.
• 47:29
  And so I just said I'll do it and so I learned that lesson.
• 47:35
  You know how important it is to? To be able to see a monitor.
• 47:38
  And I couldn't really because it was a really tight spot.
• 47:42
  And I was kind of between Kevin and Billy but behind them a
• 47:45
  little bit and I kept thinking, I've always heard that when
• 47:49
  Frank Oz has somebody doing his right hand, if they're too
• 47:54
  active, he'll grab it and just hold it still.
• 47:57
  So I thought I'm going to avoid that and do the professional
• 47:59
  thing and stay as neutral as possible.
• 48:02
  It just kind of leave it on the desk as much as I can.
• 48:05
  But I couldn't tell that when Louis would turn to his right
• 48:09
  and my hand, wouldn't move his whole right arm would flatten
• 48:12
  out against the side of the puppet and of and I kept Billy
• 48:15
  kept pulling my hand down and I'm wondering.
• 48:17
  What's you doing? Why is he pulling me out of
• 48:20
  there? And it was, that's what it
• 48:23
  wasn't that and to round it all off.
• 48:25
  At the end, the hosts were on the other side of Elmo.
• 48:31
  I will mow is between me and the hosts.
• 48:34
  When they reached out their hand to shake Elmo's hand.
• 48:38
  No, to shake loose Lisa. Sorry, I raised my hand up and
• 48:42
  smacked Elmo in the head even reacts to it.
• 48:47
  You can see Daddy and then someone calls Child Services,
• 48:52
  right? Yeah, it's funny.
• 48:55
  I have almost the exact same story.
• 48:56
  Not the not the second half there, but I write him in for
• 48:59
  Elmo once for a very short video, which no one will ever
• 49:02
  find and because the same thing like they just need someone, I
• 49:06
  happen to be in the room and I Not the same exact thing is you
• 49:09
  like don't overdo it and so I'm like I'm gonna hold it really
• 49:12
  still and I hold it so still, they might as well just glued it
• 49:16
  to the floor. It's like, how about his hands
• 49:18
  and up? And he's like talking, he's you
• 49:20
  know, there's other orbiting around the other hand is just
• 49:22
  completely still. It was a small, I'm Kevin O'Hara
• 49:27
  was this Kevin? Now this is, this is, this is
• 49:29
  Ryan era Ryan, okay, right. Yeah, yep.
• 49:32
  Yep. It's literally like a 30 second
• 49:35
  video that might be might or might not be on YouTube, so
• 49:37
  thank God. Wasn't a big deal.
• 49:39
  But I could have used to use the lesson or two before before
• 49:43
  going on camera. Because I'm a little next time.
• 49:54
  Next time. Yeah.
• 49:55
  What was that performance of mine?
• 49:57
  That allowed me to do some background puppets in Muppet
• 49:59
  Treasure Island's, right? It's how he was.
• 50:01
  Yes. Forecast, today even though
• 50:04
  they're only in time, maybe that hands, I need that hands on my
• 50:07
  show. Who was that?
• 50:09
  Who did Louise hand? And there was a whole cast in my
• 50:12
  sights on my IMDb page? Yeah.
• 50:16
  Well with Louis built, you know, you did that for a how many
• 50:21
  years and then you passed it off to the Tyler.
• 50:26
  Yeah, I don't know how many was it wasn't wasn't that many.
• 50:31
  It was really about sesame just didn't want to have to fly me
• 50:36
  back and forth. You know, because I live in LA
• 50:38
  And so, it was becoming a thing of how much they could use him.
• 50:42
  You know, and I didn't want to keep that from happening.
• 50:45
  So I, I just suggest a Tyler because I thought I don't know.
• 50:50
  Just thought he would do a great job.
• 50:51
  You know what he does on The Voice and he does sexually is
• 50:55
  spot-on. Like the, you can't tell the
• 50:56
  difference between the two he does.
• 50:58
  Yeah, I did a great job. So yeah, so it was just the
• 51:01
  unfortunate thing of just, they didn't one of, you know, I and I
• 51:04
  get it. I mean, I would love to have
• 51:06
  continued to have done it because I I love doing that
• 51:09
  character, especially working with Fran and Kevin and, you
• 51:13
  know, I was just having fun. My favorite thing actually was
• 51:18
  doing whatever, whichever video. I can't remember the exact one,
• 51:21
  but it was where Tyler plays Carmen's dad.
• 51:26
  Who's in a wheelchair? Yeah.
• 51:28
  And we had so much fun. We just had a ball in that
• 51:32
  Chute. But yeah, I was this wish I
• 51:35
  could It's kind of disappointed because here I am on the east
• 51:39
  coast and yet they didn't give me a call.
• 51:43
  Having seen the hey we thought about.
• 51:45
  Yeah. We thought you since you did the
• 51:46
  hand, you could probably do the whole character, but Tyler is
• 51:50
  just too good G. Okay, so here's my question
• 51:55
  about Louis. When when you started doing
• 51:58
  Louisa character, he had a mustache.
• 52:00
  Now Louise, got a soul patch. How does a monster with red fur
• 52:05
  style? Facial Hair like Trim in style
• 52:08
  facial hair. That's a different color.
• 52:10
  Can you answer this? Well, yeah, I I was born More
• 52:16
  Auburn, right? So, my beard.
• 52:19
  I mean, you can't tell now it's white in there, but, and I don't
• 52:22
  color my hair, but my hair on my head is brown and my beards
• 52:26
  always been more of a red. So I guess it can happen, right?
• 52:30
  Yes Fair. It's just the workshop decided
• 52:34
  to pull his mustache. Yeah for sure.
• 52:37
  Yeah yeah I just I am capable of Hair that no one will ever know.
• 52:44
  I think his hair changed a bit to or something.
• 52:51
  Well, The bit straighter a little bit
• 53:11
  shorter. Yeah it was, we changed it when
• 53:14
  we ended up, I think when we did the the god what was it called
• 53:20
  with the the military grieving family?
• 53:23
  Yeah. Video and when families when
• 53:25
  families grieve, I think that's when he got changed for that.
• 53:32
  Think so but I started Louis with the current, you know?
• 53:36
  I mean I think they did a couple versions of Sesame beginnings.
• 53:40
  He's after the military thing, too, but I know I did the first,
• 53:43
  I think the first one is that the one where there's like, a
• 53:46
  baby big bird? And a baby Elmo?
• 53:49
  Yeah, that's the. Something being fun.
• 53:51
  Yeah, I started as well. We did Potty Time, stuff like
• 53:54
  that. Yep songs.
• 53:56
  Yeah. Right.
• 53:59
  It's he's a pretty big puppet, too, because I know they'll
• 54:02
  usually be versions of the other characters are like Norton,
• 54:04
  quote unquote, normal home up its size.
• 54:06
  So the parents are like, twice that, yeah, he's pretty good.
• 54:10
  And you tend to like play larger characters is that like the are
• 54:14
  you just stronger than the other?
• 54:15
  Here's you can hold these things over here.
• 54:17
  I'm just stupid. Just the Dumber, one.
• 54:21
  Do you still need the harness? The bye-bye.
• 54:24
  Oh yeah, sure. Even more when you get older you
• 54:27
  yeah. Can I ask there's a thing in
• 54:31
  because a moment in the 2015 ABC Series where you're playing or
• 54:36
  Bobo like has to fall. I think he faints When you do
• 54:41
  that because obviously you can't just drop your arm because it's
• 54:44
  all you do you have to just like fall down onto a mat or
• 54:46
  something like that? What depends.
• 54:50
  I mean I don't think I've ever found on a mat with Bola but
• 54:52
  usually because we're standing I just tilt bend over forward or
• 54:57
  fall back out of the shot, you know, as best I can or squat or
• 55:01
  you know, it's a combination of Tilting, I guess.
• 55:05
  Yeah, I remember, I remember, I Muppets tonight.
• 55:09
  I was out there for a few days when they were shooting that and
• 55:12
  they were doing a show with Penn and Teller and Bobo was watching
• 55:17
  them. Do card tricks.
• 55:18
  In one of the scenes and this was before the harness.
• 55:22
  And so we're watching and all of a sudden, Bobo go like starts
• 55:26
  having the shakes and then there's drops because Billy's
• 55:29
  arm just completely gave out and yeah.
• 55:33
  I needed a break and it was bad to you used to what would happen
• 55:37
  is to, like all of the weight is on this part of your arm right
• 55:41
  with him by just underneath strength?
• 55:43
  Yeah, yeah. Just at the back of the car,
• 55:45
  vodka beer. Yep.
• 55:47
  Back of your wrist, kind of the top of your forearm or the when
• 55:50
  you get close to your wrist. But, and so, what happens is the
• 55:55
  to hold him up, you're pulling his nose down because you're
• 55:58
  trying to hold them up with your wrist, right?
• 56:01
  So the face to go, A flat and so, thank goodness for jinguk
• 56:06
  Nick. Who figured out how we do this
• 56:08
  and took the weight off of me and and gave him a little more
• 56:12
  structure, you know? So that he was not so just flat
• 56:16
  faced but yeah, before the harness it was just so hard to
• 56:20
  keep him up for very long and it was silly because I couldn't get
• 56:23
  through, you know, a scene. Yeah, well, and I think a lot of
• 56:27
  the Brilliance behind the character above 0 is probably
• 56:32
  because of the heart. Sore, because he's such a large
• 56:34
  and heavy character is that almost all the movement is just
• 56:37
  as mouth and a little bit of the eyes and other than that.
• 56:40
  He's just a huge presence that's just still, he's just taking up
• 56:44
  space and yeah, I don't know if that's the reason why like his
• 56:48
  non sequiturs, his one-liners are like they always land.
• 56:52
  So well, but they do every time every line that bobo has
• 56:56
  especially in the 2015 series, every time you open his mouth it
• 56:58
  was gold. It was hysterical.
• 57:00
  Well, you know if you look at me I'm kind of the same, right?
• 57:03
  I don't move a whole lot just my mouth moves and I don't say
• 57:09
  healthier up pretty good. So I'm most like him, but
• 57:24
  actually when we were doing Muppets tonight towards the end
• 57:28
  of it, they asked if we wanted to because they wanted to build
• 57:31
  him out more, you know? Give them some structure and
• 57:34
  they were wondering if I wanted to have his head room, you know,
• 57:38
  separated, so he could turn his head and I was like, please
• 57:41
  don't do that, because that's who he is, he for him to turn
• 57:44
  and look at you. He has to turn his whole body to
• 57:48
  see something here. We gonna do this, it's like a
• 57:51
  whole workout, you know, so it's kind of like me.
• 57:55
  Yeah. I ends.
• 57:57
  I mean obviously you've taken the mantle on several Jim Henson
• 58:01
  characters which is incredible. Does it still feel like you're,
• 58:07
  you're carrying the torch from gym or do you feel like in the
• 58:09
  ownership over Rome from dr. Teeth and the Swedish Chef
• 58:12
  moment. Oh God, no, no ownership
• 58:15
  whatsoever. None whatsoever.
• 58:17
  Not even not even smidge. No, because it's I didn't create
• 58:21
  them so it's never going to come through.
• 58:23
  It's not me, you know, it's, I'm just trying to Maintain the
• 58:26
  Integrity of it as best I can. And then if things are written
• 58:31
  for him to grow and change a bit, then I go with that.
• 58:33
  But I can't say that it's, I can't say that they're my
• 58:37
  characters in any way. They're, they're really just
• 58:41
  keeping them going. Hopefully, and people just enjoy
• 58:43
  them. That's why I try not to let them
• 58:46
  get too crazy with writing stuff for them.
• 58:49
  You know if I can because I just think The I just I just I don't
• 58:55
  trust that it's going to be organic enough you know when I
• 58:57
  do it and I just don't know them very well as Jim.
• 59:01
  So I guess I just try and do the best imitation I can and try to
• 59:05
  have some fun with it. You know, the chef I feel, I'll
• 59:08
  tell you what, the chef, I feel a little more comfortable.
• 59:11
  I feel like I have made maybe that more because I don't have
• 59:15
  to actually verbalize, like I would with real for dr.
• 59:18
  Teeth in a very specific way. Where's the chef?
• 59:22
  I can have some Fun with, and, and I think, I think I found
• 59:28
  ways of making that, you know, a little more fun than I expected,
• 59:36
  you know, II do have fun with him, maybe more than any of the
• 59:40
  others of gyms, and that's a really fun voice to do the
• 59:43
  Swedish Chef. That's like I do a lot of
• 59:45
  Impressions, but I have a, I have a decent Swedish Chef.
• 59:47
  I'm not going to do it now because Australian what do you
• 59:50
  do with an Australian version Australian?
• 59:52
  Seth yeah. Yeah yeah.
• 59:55
  Oh bork bork bork. But the I mean the voices are
• 1:00:05
  spot-on. So like, you know when you're
• 1:00:08
  they are, like you're being humble but, but they're spot on,
• 1:00:12
  I'll tell you now, what is it right Rudolph from from Run Run
• 1:00:17
  Rudolph. Yeah, that song is up Banger and
• 1:00:21
  that is one of my favorite Christmas songs.
• 1:00:24
  Not just that song like the old version of that song.
• 1:00:27
  So you don't like Merry Christmas Baby.
• 1:00:29
  Peppa is version of Merry Christmas baby.
• 1:00:31
  That's one of those ones. I haven't heard.
• 1:00:32
  I haven't had a lot of but oh yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah that one. Yeah, yeah, no.
• 1:00:37
  That does a whole Pepe does a whole little Stevie Wonder
• 1:00:40
  tribute right at the end. A little Stevie Wonder scream.
• 1:00:43
  You got to hear that one. All right.
• 1:00:44
  I'm going to look into that after this.
• 1:00:48
  Well, thank you though. I appreciate that.
• 1:00:50
  I do like that. I do like that version.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah. What you do we doing the did
• 1:00:56
  these voices with a something you always had?
• 1:00:57
  Is this something that when the opportunity to take over these
• 1:01:00
  characters came up, you've worked on, I didn't work on the
• 1:01:06
  chef when I was asked to do it, I tried.
• 1:01:09
  I mean I it was quick. It was like figure it out fast
• 1:01:12
  because and then it was also maybe somebody else will Loop
• 1:01:14
  it, if it's not great, you know? And that was I think on Treasure
• 1:01:18
  Island. It was a really quick.
• 1:01:21
  Moment where he's at the table and the food, or the food
• 1:01:24
  actually make the joke, and he's just kind of back there, doing
• 1:01:26
  some like him, and what I did and then Rolf was a laugh in
• 1:01:31
  Treasure Island as well, sitting at the table.
• 1:01:34
  And from there, I started to play around.
• 1:01:36
  Could I maybe do this because I, you know, for Muppets tonight,
• 1:01:41
  one of the things I did consciously think about, was
• 1:01:45
  that there, wasn't anybody doing those growly gym voices, right?
• 1:01:51
  Since he had passed and those were my favorite growing up in
• 1:01:55
  here. Like those were the ones I was
• 1:01:57
  drawn to was that growl kind of, you know, bumbly growly kind of
• 1:02:01
  whether it was a king you know king ploobis or it was real for
• 1:02:06
  whoever. And so for Muppets tonight with
• 1:02:09
  Bobo, that was my, here's my little In My Own Way, tribute to
• 1:02:13
  a gym growly voice. And then they start asked me if
• 1:02:18
  I wanted to do eventually teeth and Ralph.
• 1:02:20
  And I was like, oh shit. It.
• 1:02:21
  How do I separate these now, you know, and it was a great lesson
• 1:02:26
  in just kind of going back and thinking about my acting
• 1:02:29
  training and thinking that it's not about voices, you know, it's
• 1:02:33
  about the character. And so Jim did a lot of those
• 1:02:36
  growly voices, but his characters were all different.
• 1:02:39
  They all came from different places.
• 1:02:41
  So, the attitude is what drove the voice as opposed to the
• 1:02:45
  voice driving the character, you know, so also defined ways of
• 1:02:49
  separating them but you did you have described how you form your
• 1:02:54
  mouth and everything for some of them to differentiate, right?
• 1:02:57
  Well, that's what I learned like.
• 1:02:59
  And I learned that like so Dave goal said, at one point he said,
• 1:03:02
  you know, when Jim would do dr. Teeth, I would watch him and he
• 1:03:06
  would literally make, you know, kind of bite his teeth and make
• 1:03:10
  this big grin. So, when he would talk, it would
• 1:03:13
  be much tighter, you know. But with raw food was around
• 1:03:17
  her, you know, and more playful, you know, more up here a little
• 1:03:21
  bit more air in and his deeds were, you know, there the t's
• 1:03:25
  and were there D is. And, you know, the looser thing
• 1:03:29
  and then with Bobo was just me, kind of just, with a growl, you
• 1:03:35
  know. So, just just more basic, you
• 1:03:37
  know, straightforward kind of guy, you know.
• 1:03:40
  But, yeah, the gym thing that they've showed me was a big
• 1:03:44
  change for me with dr. Teeth with to just griten grid
• 1:03:47
  more teeth, you know, and you do it.
• 1:03:50
  That's great. Those little things make such a
• 1:03:52
  huge difference. It's weird.
• 1:03:54
  I guess they do. Yeah, it helps me at least I
• 1:03:57
  hope after comes across. I think it does.
• 1:03:59
  Especially, I mean, we, you know, the fans, when you first
• 1:04:03
  really started getting into performing Rolf and we'd already
• 1:04:07
  been so familiar with Bobo. And I think a lot of the fans
• 1:04:10
  had a problem with, like, I mean, everyone's going to be
• 1:04:11
  problems. Recast, no matter what happens
• 1:04:14
  every time. Oh, really?
• 1:04:16
  Yeah. But I think a lot of fans have
• 1:04:23
  issue of like it's just Bobo, it's just like, but was voice
• 1:04:26
  coming out of raw. Sewage is not true.
• 1:04:29
  I mean, you know, obviously every performer needs time when
• 1:04:32
  they're taking over a character. Oh my God, it's perfect ears.
• 1:04:35
  But, but like you said, I mean, now, you know, we you all these,
• 1:04:40
  all three, these characters were have been in recent Productions
• 1:04:43
  and Like, You Close Your Eyes, a hunt.
• 1:04:44
  You can 100% tell the difference.
• 1:04:45
  Just like we could tell the difference between them when Jim
• 1:04:48
  perform them, you know, back in the day.
• 1:04:50
  So, So help. So I think you're doing a great
• 1:04:52
  morning, I don't thank you. I've been wanting to do.
• 1:04:54
  I want to bring back, you know the what do you call it?
• 1:05:00
  The Saturday Night Live Land O. Yep.
• 1:05:03
  LOL and landlords. Oh yeah, I would.
• 1:05:05
  So love to bring that back. You know, and I'll be terrific
• 1:05:08
  that King. Yeah, I would just like, yeah,
• 1:05:11
  do that again? And I know Matt would do an
• 1:05:14
  amazing scred, you know, and I just think we could.
• 1:05:17
  And then, of course, you know, having Eric do the my I mean, it
• 1:05:21
  just think we could really have some fun with that, you know?
• 1:05:24
  And then of course we have such great female performers, to
• 1:05:28
  figure out who would play though.
• 1:05:29
  I mean, I think what we saw, I think it sounds a but okay.
• 1:05:34
  Yeah. Well, I don't know if she, I
• 1:05:35
  think she's done. Yeah, bring em, bring friend out
• 1:05:37
  of retirement for this. Yeah, gotten certainly life.
• 1:05:40
  Well that do you know the puppet survived?
• 1:05:43
  Oh God. No.
• 1:05:44
  I think they're in a museum. I'm sure if any of them?
• 1:05:47
  Yeah. Yeah, I think it was some one or
• 1:05:49
  two of them might be. I know I've seen.
• 1:05:50
  Scred in a museum. I want to say I've seen fav.
• 1:05:53
  Ugh. And maybe this is well I want to
• 1:05:57
  say maybe maybe Museum the moving image or the touring
• 1:06:00
  Smithsonian. I don't think it'd be such great
• 1:06:03
  to do these. You know, just do a little
• 1:06:04
  10-minute pieces, you know, just have some fun, just kind of
• 1:06:09
  having a ball with them. I think Henson may still own the
• 1:06:12
  rights to the my don't know. I have to talk to Brian.
• 1:06:14
  They do have been think I'll do. They, the only reason I know for
• 1:06:17
  sure. Is that I've heard.
• 1:06:21
  Maybe I shouldn't say names but like I know people who have
• 1:06:23
  pitched ideas for comic books. So that with the help with the
• 1:06:27
  land, of course, characters and do Henson, because Henson songs
• 1:06:31
  it's not 9 and C naught naught 1 Michaels has been so long
• 1:06:35
  Disney. I didn't know if not this I
• 1:06:37
  wasn't sure Disney had them either.
• 1:06:38
  But yeah. So called bright call your buddy
• 1:06:41
  Brian. Tell him.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah, it is something I've been thinking about.
• 1:06:46
  I just think it would be so much fun to do again and people just
• 1:06:49
  love these quick. Little bites of things, you
• 1:06:52
  know, will be perfect to do. Oh, absolutely.
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  Maybe we'll do great Jane after talking about voices and, you
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  know, I've done Impressions. Have you got any Impressions any
• 1:07:03
  of your brother's characters or he does them all.
• 1:07:06
  Alright, let's come on, doing good.
• 1:07:12
  All right, let's let's say Ralph hey, how you doing?
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  What else? I want to hear the sweet, sweet,
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  Swedish, Chef and pepe. Excellent.
• 1:07:37
  Why are you insulting isn't just cough?
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  Actually, I can do Pepe pretty well because what I want to say,
• 1:07:46
  let's not really gonna try and do it.
• 1:07:50
  You want me to say this voice? Okay.
• 1:07:51
  No, no, not the worst thing I've ever heard.
• 1:08:03
  You're a regular gym. Now that's actually not bad.
• 1:08:45
  It sounds like like characters as if they're like like falling
• 1:08:49
  but not for a very like a long fall like something wrong.
• 1:08:56
  Are falling off the chair, right?
• 1:09:01
  What else is Gonna Come Along? Good Ozzy, Ozzy.
• 1:09:07
  Ha ha ha. Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  Guns out of it. Now, that that was because
• 1:09:12
  father is gone. But you can see, I mean, he's
• 1:09:18
  got, I mean well, territoire my goodness.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Bill, you know home but we're going to put out a toy like
• 1:09:26
  called Muppet box. A muppet box that has a little
• 1:09:29
  sound mechanism. Take it.
• 1:09:32
  And then you see which of the Expressions you get, I wasn't
• 1:09:35
  gonna mention this, but I'm up its now Gene actually ADR to all
• 1:09:40
  of my characters and just straight through the whole
• 1:09:44
  trouble, everything in trouble. Wow, yeah, I mean, you can tell,
• 1:09:49
  I tell a couple of times. Mom fell over I did have one
• 1:09:54
  question about about the Swedish Chef before we get off that
• 1:09:57
  topic. Toby asked me, well, what did
• 1:10:03
  you learn English? So well.
• 1:10:04
  So he started wearing a wedding ring in recent years.
• 1:10:14
  Who's he? Married to who's mrs.
• 1:10:16
  Swedish Chef. We don't know.
• 1:10:18
  I don't think he knows. I don't think he knows.
• 1:10:19
  He's married. It really cute.
• 1:10:22
  I don't think it was Steve Mars fault.
• 1:10:24
  It started with him. He wore his ring, he wore his
• 1:10:28
  wedding ring one time when he and I were doing it early on its
• 1:10:31
  back in the 90s. Now that's how long he's had a
• 1:10:33
  wedding ring on. Wow.
• 1:10:36
  So we just thought it was so funny.
• 1:10:40
  People started asking and then I just started, keep in mind using
• 1:10:43
  mine and and then I just thought Whoever has a wedding ring on
• 1:10:49
  that's doing his hands. That's whose wedding ring is.
• 1:10:51
  So he just has a collection of rings.
• 1:10:54
  Great. I love, you know, the be the
• 1:10:57
  Palisades. The Palisades Swedish Chef has a
• 1:10:59
  ring. I think Jamie Jamie, make sure
• 1:11:03
  that yeah yeah. So who is the the hands of the
• 1:11:07
  Swedish Chef now Usually is a number.
• 1:11:11
  Usually, if we can I hope it's Peter.
• 1:11:14
  He's so good. He's amazing.
• 1:11:17
  Quite a talent. Oh, my God, crazy.
• 1:11:20
  He's no Gene Beretta when it comes to right here.
• 1:11:23
  That's right. That's true Jean, but, but Peter
• 1:11:27
  is a close second. Yeah, but the thing is, when
• 1:11:29
  Gene does the hands to the Swedish Chef, they come out of
• 1:11:32
  frame because usually got an apple and he's eating it.
• 1:11:36
  It's right underneath the underneath.
• 1:11:39
  Ask me to do Swedish chefs hands.
• 1:11:41
  Go ahead. Okay, let's that see this way to
• 1:11:43
  chefs hands. You just wow, magic ring on them
• 1:11:55
  Pals of mine. Or is it just a band?
• 1:11:58
  It's a gray band to be balanced with my ring.
• 1:12:01
  I have a great bands. Here we go.
• 1:12:03
  So, wait a minute, maybe I'm the hands of this video stops.
• 1:12:06
  Maybe Steve wore a Platinum Band.
• 1:12:08
  I can't remember, maybe that's why it's over.
• 1:12:12
  Well, I think I know it's about this the way you chefs wife at
• 1:12:14
  some point. I don't think he's married, I
• 1:12:17
  can do the voice. Do you think?
• 1:12:19
  Do you think he wears the ring to to dissuade any women from
• 1:12:23
  from Florida? Give him.
• 1:12:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  I think he doesn't, he's like, it's picked married to my work.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah. Or something or they just he
• 1:12:33
  didn't even know what he's saying, he's just really like,
• 1:12:37
  yeah, I feel like sweaty chefs. It's going to turn out to be
• 1:12:39
  some sort of we'd like Norman Bates situation.
• 1:12:43
  Here's my married to his mother Yeah, they're going to get home
• 1:12:46
  and he's mother. She was going to be like, made a
• 1:12:48
  broccoli and that'll be it. So Bill and Jean.
• 1:12:54
  At the end of every episode, we asked a series of questions to
• 1:12:57
  our guests Jared has his set of questions I have mine.
• 1:13:01
  Today, I'm going to ask you guys a few questions.
• 1:13:02
  Feel free to answer them. I wish I was asleep quick
• 1:13:05
  response you like last night, I was here, the whole night.
• 1:13:09
  Yes, great guy actually did need your Alibis.
• 1:13:13
  Thank you for that. Where is the holy war?
• 1:13:18
  Are your wedding rings real? Okay, so first question for you
• 1:13:22
  both of you feel you can answer together or one time.
• 1:13:26
  What is the best movie? You watched recently a whole
• 1:13:29
  movie Or most of the movie. No.
• 1:13:35
  All right how about TV show my wife and I get a kick out of 90
• 1:13:39
  day fiancé. So that's what we watch together
• 1:13:46
  somehow and sisters is good. Oh Mike's my do you guys know my
• 1:13:51
  600-pound life? I've heard of that.
• 1:13:53
  I have not watched it. There's a my face.
• 1:13:55
  He's my favorite. The doctor, that's on their
• 1:13:58
  doctor. Now I can't think of his last
• 1:14:00
  name. It's a long name, but he talks
• 1:14:03
  like this and they says, if if Evelyn is not going to get on
• 1:14:07
  the program, then we can give her the procedure at their.
• 1:14:10
  She's not going to go on the program and she's not going to
• 1:14:13
  have the procedure, then there's no point in me.
• 1:14:15
  Having a stay at the hospital. If she's not going to stay at
• 1:14:18
  the hospital, then we don't have any time to spend together back
• 1:14:22
  onto the I'm she's not on the program.
• 1:14:25
  Might be time for defense and he goes on its I swear to God.
• 1:14:29
  It's like a 4-minute run. Every time they talk to him.
• 1:14:33
  He's so great. You have to watch him dr.
• 1:14:36
  Now amazing. His austere.
• 1:14:38
  I'm sure he deliberately does that so they can't edit him
• 1:14:41
  halfway through his sentence. I don't think it's a long
• 1:14:44
  sentence and never stop. It is him.
• 1:14:46
  He is so focused and he's like this really devoted doctor to
• 1:14:50
  his patients and he just goes on And on and then he doesn't
• 1:14:54
  continue that all along and he doesn't contain.
• 1:14:57
  It does no good Lord. He's so good.
• 1:15:00
  All right. Would you rather travel 20 years
• 1:15:02
  into the future or 20 years into the past past?
• 1:15:07
  Yeah, past we had good childhood, good answer.
• 1:15:11
  Hmm fair. I wasn't a child 20 years ago,
• 1:15:15
  well, I know, but I'd like to meet my wife all over again.
• 1:15:19
  Oh, that's nice. That's very sweet 20 years ago.
• 1:15:22
  Well 20 years ago I guess I was meeting my wife at the say
• 1:15:27
  around the same time. Yeah, yeah, 25 was we were we
• 1:15:30
  were in five years at that time, but that's it all was all new
• 1:15:34
  and shiny. Great is a hot dog a sandwich.
• 1:15:40
  No. Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Why not? It's got two pieces of bread
• 1:15:44
  around a piece of meat. No, it's all right.
• 1:15:47
  It's a roll. It's a roll.
• 1:15:50
  Yeah, Yogi's have roles. Wait, Hoagies have roles.
• 1:15:54
  They're sandwiches that a sandwich.
• 1:15:55
  It's a Huggy buttonhole. Jesus and who he is and the type
• 1:15:58
  of Sam, no. Yeah, of course, submarine
• 1:16:01
  Sandwiches sandwiches, Subway sandwich bread on top of its and
• 1:16:07
  Bill know if you had a hot dog bun and the bun separates, I
• 1:16:11
  don't separate them to pieces like a bit like when you hold
• 1:16:15
  it. Who took on the story of the Son
• 1:16:47
  of Sam crime. And Found out that he he didn't
• 1:16:53
  work alone and that they New York.
• 1:16:54
  Police Department was completely corrupted.
• 1:16:56
  They rushed the verdict and and huge was just became completely
• 1:17:00
  obsessed with with trying to figure all this out.
• 1:17:03
  It's really, really fascinating bit of history that not many
• 1:17:07
  people have known until now. I don't think.
• 1:17:10
  Alright, good. So interesting.
• 1:17:12
  Hmm, hey, but I do have a thing about sandwiches.
• 1:17:16
  Yeah distinguishes, do you know what a sangwich is?
• 1:17:20
  I don't sangwich is when you use one piece of bread and you wrap
• 1:17:25
  it around your stuff. You're still as a house on the
• 1:17:29
  same going to roll, not a roll. What's the difference which
• 1:17:34
  language? It's a slice of bread that you
• 1:17:38
  wrap around quite know. But that's our grandfather
• 1:17:42
  pronounced it. But was he was, he describing?
• 1:17:45
  I didn't know. He was actually describing one
• 1:17:47
  piece of bread rack. I thought that was just how we
• 1:17:50
  pronounce sandwich period. I asked him if it was a
• 1:17:53
  sangwich, if it because it was like not as different than two
• 1:17:57
  peas. Like I said, does that That it
• 1:17:58
  was like I don't know. It's my version of it.
• 1:18:03
  It's Cannon we're calling it isn't going it again.
• 1:18:06
  I just put it. So in my stead of questions that
• 1:18:09
  I usually ask, I have one that Joe doesn't like because no one
• 1:18:13
  is agree with me yet but I want to ask the both of you is super
• 1:18:18
  food or a drink. It's a food.
• 1:18:21
  Well you know it just gets too. It's not on the drink.
• 1:18:25
  Too many types of soup is in there.
• 1:18:28
  Okay, like a thicker soup. To me would be more like a food.
• 1:18:32
  A broth is more like a drink. That's the closest I've had to
• 1:18:36
  when you want to bring with me Bill.
• 1:18:38
  So thank you. I appreciate it.
• 1:18:40
  It's not on the beverages menu at all you're ever gonna have a
• 1:18:44
  cup of chicken broth, but you're not cheering it Food you can
• 1:18:48
  chew soup. Of course you can choose soup.
• 1:18:51
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:18:53
  You could. I mean like you ever have lentil
• 1:18:55
  soup? Yeah, it's like.
• 1:18:58
  All right. It's not like a liquid
• 1:19:00
  necessarily. You have to chew it to.
• 1:19:03
  You can't just drink it, right? What about vegetable soup?
• 1:19:07
  What about you know? Pasta fazool.
• 1:19:10
  I feel like this is all just now an intervention for my suit
• 1:19:13
  question. It's a terrible question Journey
• 1:19:15
  should be same. I'm not sure.
• 1:19:17
  But I Not sure what your what are you saying.
• 1:19:19
  I think it's a drink. How can it be with all the stuff
• 1:19:22
  in it? I'd like to see you drink some
• 1:19:25
  soup. All right, great.
• 1:19:28
  I'm gonna soup you can think of in the next
• 1:19:42
  five or 10 seconds obscure. Yeah, go deep.
• 1:19:48
  I don't know. I'm not a big Muppet fan.
• 1:19:56
  I couldn't really tell you, where is he?
• 1:20:00
  I love her. I love Guy.
• 1:20:04
  Smiley, but he's not obscure. Alex are enough of all time,
• 1:20:09
  your mother did exist. He's my favorite.
• 1:20:13
  He's my favorite of all, if he's a great choice.
• 1:20:16
  Yeah. Jean.
• 1:20:18
  Alan. How about Roosevelt Franklin?
• 1:20:25
  Yeah, he's great. What about?
• 1:20:30
  Baby oscar. Ah, maybe auditor.
• 1:20:37
  Is that a character? He's so obscure.
• 1:20:39
  You can you do your best baby, oscar voice.
• 1:20:47
  Great. It was just a song.
• 1:20:59
  Doing your own Folly but he's not an ashcan.
• 1:21:02
  He's in an ashtray. It didn't sound that was at the
• 1:21:07
  dragon. Yeah, yeah, right, perfect.
• 1:21:12
  So in every episode, we ask our guests to come up with a
• 1:21:15
  question for our next guest, without knowing who it is, last
• 1:21:18
  week, Our Guest was Leslie, Kerr are Rudolph and she wanted us to
• 1:21:22
  ask you. If Abby or someone like Abby,
• 1:21:25
  Cadabby could magic someone in front of you poof someone in
• 1:21:28
  right in front of you right now, who would it be my mother?
• 1:21:32
  Hmm. Good answer.
• 1:21:36
  All right. I'll go with our father that
• 1:21:41
  We're getting the band back together.
• 1:21:44
  I love it. All right.
• 1:21:46
  And finally, this is our season finale, but without knowing who
• 1:21:51
  it is. What question would you like to
• 1:21:53
  ask the first guest of our second season of this podcast?
• 1:21:59
  Why did you accept the invitation, right?
• 1:22:04
  Who am I gonna ask that? Who does your hair cut?
• 1:22:07
  Who does your hair great? We will ask them both of these
• 1:22:09
  questions. Well, Gene and Bill Beretta.
• 1:22:13
  Thank you guys so much for being has been honestly such a treat
• 1:22:17
  to have you guys here because it really let people know that
• 1:22:27
  you're supposed to surprise Jared with the guests.
• 1:22:28
  Yeah, I had no idea. You were coming until a couple
• 1:22:30
  of minutes before you arrived. Oh really, because I guess there
• 1:22:33
  wasn't any big reveal on the show.
• 1:22:36
  Now we realize that it's so hard to coordinate the The guys
• 1:22:41
  popping up to ask, yes, or no. Questions to try to figure it
• 1:22:50
  out to try and guess, did you guess?
• 1:22:51
  I did not always also under the guise.
• 1:22:53
  It was one guess not too. So Joe really threw me up on
• 1:22:57
  this one. Yeah, okay, so there's there is
• 1:23:00
  a reveal within the context of the show.
• 1:23:02
  We just didn't hear it. Yes.
• 1:23:03
  Correct. That's right.
• 1:23:05
  Really. No, actually the same.
• 1:23:08
  We are basically want to stir your basically one person.
• 1:23:10
  The logo for the Beretta Brothers show is one run with
• 1:23:15
  both of your faces, which by the way, is super disturbing and I
• 1:23:18
  hate it. It's like a nightmare.
• 1:23:23
  You mean that fair? This is right there behind you.
• 1:23:25
  That guy. It's time to me Korea.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah. Well, thank you guys so much for
• 1:23:32
  being here. Can you can you tell everyone
• 1:23:34
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• 1:23:39
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• 1:23:46
  The podcast prevent signal so all you on purpose?
• 1:23:50
  Yeah. Sorry there have been some new
• 1:23:52
  Mini Muppet episodes, while we've been on Hiatus, those are
• 1:23:56
  on the podcast. So there's little something for
• 1:23:59
  you guys while we're doing our Hiatus thing and I hope you come
• 1:24:03
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• 1:24:06
  back? Oh thanks.
• 1:24:08
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• 1:24:11
  figure out when and how and how to get people.
• 1:24:14
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• 1:24:18
  and energy to do all this stuff. So first is how we do it?
• 1:24:22
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• 1:24:25
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• 1:24:29
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• 1:24:35
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