Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - How to Unlock Authenticity in People | Jessica Zweig - CEO of SimplyBe
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, explore how authenticity serves as the foundation for personal growth
- 0:05and sustainable business success. Discover the power of building a values-driven culture,
- 0:10fostering psychological safety and practicing radical candor to strengthen teams and relationships.
- 0:15Learn why aligning your actions with your values can transform how you lead, connect,
- 0:20and thrive in both life and work.
- 0:30And that moment when you felt very spiritual, how did that tie in to the message that you put
- 0:44out into the world about authenticity? Why did you need to find yourself before you were able
- 0:50to truly put yourself out there? And I think in turn create a message and even marketing material,
- 0:57and all that superficial stuff that actually resonates with people.
- 1:03So I used to run a different business. So simply be my company is my second company. And my
- 1:09first company was an online magazine for women in the city of Chicago, which I ran for seven years.
- 1:16And we built this major brand and we were super cool and we got applications every week for
- 1:21people who wanted to work for us and brands wanting to work with us. We amass this huge audience.
- 1:26In Chicago, it was sort of like, you know, refinery 29, but for women and this was sort of,
- 1:31we were like the original food and fashion blog in the city of Chicago and blew up in the Midwest.
- 1:36And that really put me on the map as an entrepreneur, right? This was from like 2008 to 2014.
- 1:42I ran this business. And I write about this in my book, I talk about it often. The whole thing was
- 1:49sort of like sounded on sort of a lie. Like we were so, we were struggling inside that business
- 1:56so hard. We were my business partner and I, we kind of hated each other. We were super toxic.
- 2:01And yet we were reaching women empowerment, like to the masses. We had no money. We were broke.
- 2:07We could barely afford to pair employees, let alone ourselves. I was sick physically,
- 2:12mentally and while I was partying, I was going on like 5, 6, 9, the week, like super, super unhealthy
- 2:18on all of the levels. And yet I was like, quote, unquote successful and, you know, in demand and
- 2:24sparkling from the outside. And so that was really at the end of that business when my inauthenticity
- 2:31caught up with me. And I completely crashed rock bottom financially broke $100,000 in credit
- 2:37has to ask my parents at 33 years old to help me pay my phone bill. Like it was a rock bottom for sure.
- 2:46And so when I started simply be my company, I, I had no other choice to be honest with you, Scott,
- 2:54than to show up authentically like to really take my story. And I was just so sick of the lie.
- 3:02And when I started to really tell the truth in my own ways, whether that was in my blog or
- 3:07sitting on panels or writing, you know, longer form Instagram posts about what I was really going
- 3:12through. Something shifted and I was able to, to peer through to my community into my potential
- 3:20clients to, you know, the media, like in a completely different way. And, and, you know, I believe
- 3:28branding is an emotional experience and it has to be clear. And we have to have that razor sharp
- 3:36but at the same time, deep, impactful message designed in a brand, whether that's in a look and feel
- 3:42or a story or a message or a slogan. And so that's really what informed simply be in our approach
- 3:48to how we build brands that is all about authenticity. You have to at the same time have that,
- 3:56that clarity. And I think that we've accomplished that really well with our company and our clients
- 4:01brands and, you know, my brand. And I don't think I can talk about authenticity as much as I do
- 4:08without having that experience of what being inauthentic really did to me and my life.
- 4:14So then, so I think that's a very powerful lesson because I think a lot of people probably fall
- 4:19into the trap of the that you fell into when you built your first business. And I think that's
- 4:24actually a huge issue with entrepreneurs because everybody wants to portray this ideal entrepreneur,
- 4:30almost like caricature of what they think it should be and at least a depression and anxiety. And,
- 4:34in some cases, like the business fails because you're so caught up in how you want to be perceived
- 4:39as opposed to what's actually going on in your life. So when you dealt with this and you had this,
- 4:46this moment where you hit rock bottom and you built this company back up again, you're more authentic.
- 4:51But being authentic on social, that's like one piece of it. So how did you build the entire
- 4:59business up very differently than when you first built up, I guess, like an inauthentic business?
- 5:06Yeah, I love that question. So it started with my culture. It started with my values.
- 5:12So I was a business of one me, one person, and then I hired a contractor who is now my VP of
- 5:19marketing and my co-founder. But this was six years ago. And I decided I was going to write like a
- 5:26company manifesto. Again, just me and Alexa, who was $2,800 on contract chase quick pay, you know,
- 5:35like she was full of time. I created core values. I created, because I had taken a jaunt into corporate
- 5:45America for two years. It's a whole other story. But they were a massive billion dollar company. And
- 5:49they had quote unquote core values. And they meant nothing. The company was completely toxic. And so
- 5:54I decided that I was going to create my core values. But they weren't going to just mean something.
- 5:58They were going to mean everything and be the bedrock of the DNA of how we run this business,
- 6:05which is rooted in core values of being relevant, being extraordinary, being in service, being
- 6:12true and being kind. And that is now our that has been our our rock of success. I truly believe
- 6:18that having that written into the DNA from day one has allowed us to have the right messaging,
- 6:24attract the right clients, attract the right talent. Let go of the wrong talent. Let go of the wrong
- 6:29clients, you know, really oriented to how we do business on a day to day level, how we treat each
- 6:34other. And you know, I've listened. I started this business as a one woman shop six years ago and I
- 6:40have a staff of 30 people. I've really grown and stretched and learned and it's it's been one of
- 6:46the most difficult and beautiful journeys of my life becoming a CEO of a company like this.
- 6:52And is it a perfect science? No, but that has been my number one priority, frankly, no matter what
- 7:00is the values ensuring that we are authentic from the inside out. I say this all the time to my team.
- 7:07We can't preach love, light, authenticity and have anything but that inside the four walls of
- 7:13our organization. And that has really been I think the secret sauce to my success. So so authenticity
- 7:19in a business is that radical candor? It like how do you unlock that in people? Because you
- 7:24unlock it in yourself. But it's like it's very scary, right? Like if you ask anybody be authentic
- 7:31and go on social media, like they usually they have good intentions. But then they put again,
- 7:36they put on this like persona. So in a company as well, like that's that's always like nerve
- 7:42racking to be authentic to to tell your boss what you really feel, which I think is the most
- 7:46important thing. That's why radical candors are such a great concept. But how do you actually
- 7:50get the employee to have that psychological safety? To say what they want to say, to voice
- 7:57her opinion, to tell you when they feel that you're wrong, whatever it was all that has that all
- 8:02like is like that's all authenticity, right? All that all that type of communication.
- 8:08Yeah, I have someone to say about this. First of all, lovely,
- 8:10brought a radical. I make I make my entire company read that. That's one of my favorite books.
- 8:15Kim Scott, the author and founder was on my podcast. And I told her I'm like, getting you
- 8:21on my podcast is more exciting than getting Gwyneth Calderon. I was like, she's my hero.
- 8:25And Scott, the woman who wrote that book changed my life, changed my career. So we we practice
- 8:30radical candor, although it is, it is challenging, right? The concept of radical candors be able
- 8:35to challenge directly and care deeply at the same time. And, and not everybody has that muscle.
- 8:43And so a couple, a couple of things. I think it's really important to hire really good managers,
- 8:49really good leaders that at the very least know how to do that. I know how to practice radical
- 8:53candor. And I've got some phenomenal managers at my company that really read that book, love that
- 8:59book as much as I do and practice it with their teams. I think you have to be as the leader, as
- 9:04the tip of the spear, um, available and able to take feedback yourself, you know, and to create
- 9:11that safety with your direct report so that when they manage up to you, because managing dance,
- 9:16I decide is a is a skill, but I think managing up isn't even harder skill. And so I as the CEO
- 9:22have had to create that psychological safety to use your words with the people that directly
- 9:27report just to me. And that's not 30 people. That's four that have really been able to deepen their
- 9:33trust and safety with me that, you know, comes from me taking accountability, me being open to
- 9:40feedback and hard conversations, me making time to have those one on ones. Um, we also have,
- 9:46we also follow the book traction, which is another great book that I love by Gina Wickman. It's
- 9:50the entrepreneurial operating system. And every 90 days we get together as a team in a full day
- 9:55off site. And, and we've made it a priority. It's a ton of time for my team to do that quarterly.
- 10:00My whole team does that. And I always do a CEO report at the top of the day. And I reiterate a lot
- 10:06of our values in that. And we've got something written into our handbook called gossip is gross.
- 10:12Because that's really what was the demise of my first business. That was trauma from my high
- 10:17school and middle school days like gossip is not allowed at simply be. And if you at the very least
- 10:24have an issue with someone else in the company, which is bound to happen because we're all people,
- 10:29you have two options. One, you go to your manager about it to help you resolve it. If you're,
- 10:34if you're struggling with another peer or you're an adult and you go directly to that person and
- 10:39you have that difficult conversation, but you cannot talk shit and poison the well and create
- 10:45a gossip train or you're out. Like I, I will not have that. And I, we emphasize that point. It's got
- 10:51every 90 days. And it's really beautiful. Like my team will come to me and be like, I'm struggling.
- 10:57I know gossip is gross and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, about this person. Like they're very aligned
- 11:03to that policy because I've kind of like beaten it into their head. And I live it. You know,
- 11:09you have to be the example as the leader. I think that's my last point at the end of the day.
- 11:14You can't expect your team to do anything. You're not willing to do yourself. So that is, you know,
- 11:20hopefully the answer to your question is a really good question. Thanks for tuning in. If you found
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