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Invisible Touch · That Car Show

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What you do if you've got the family in the car, don't click
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on the happy endings button. Where is the applause button
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this week on that car show, Ryan not only feels an invisible
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touch when driving a Genesis, but he finds out that Jesus does
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love him. Lindsay talks about.
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That's. Another song from Genesis, isn't
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it? Come on, come on, come on.
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How much do I have to work with? Lindsay sees random Japanese
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cars on the freeway in Seattle, including the Toyota.
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Will I talk a little bit about getting license plates in
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California? I am finally legal.
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We talk a little bit about the prices of supers and how they
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seem to have gone out of perspective or gone out of
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control. We give you a few life hacks
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when it comes to Car Week. You know what you can do on a
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relative budget. That and a whole lot more TuneIn
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or relax, enjoy. It's that car show.
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So I had this gym teacher at Dulzer Middle School in
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Indianapolis, IN His name was Mr. Bell, I do believe.
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I remember him very, very well. He used to wear those coach
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shorts, I think made by a company called Bike.
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And they were these nylon things that were way too short.
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Used to wear the the stripes tube socks, you know, and he
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sounded like a frog and he had the shiny bald head, you know,
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little guy, powerful little man. But I never heard the phrase
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circular file before for a trash can.
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And I remember coming in late one day with like a pass, I
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don't know, doctor's appointment or something.
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And, and he said throw it in the circular font.
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And I and I just, I thought that was like the funniest.
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Try that again, Throw that into the circular file.
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And I just, I thought like, I just thought that was like the
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funniest thing I'd ever heard. Well, and do you only like I'm
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sure you only hear it in that voice now for the rest of your
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life. That's it.
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So whenever I I hear that that oh so clever phrase, I think of
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Mr. Mr. Bell. Right back to mid pool PE.
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He was an old school, like we climbed ropes in that glass.
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No medicine balls, but. That's crazy.
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You guys ever go to a gym, like an old gym and they have those
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like those bars on the wall like those dowels.
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You ever seen that like? Primary school did.
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Yeah, what the hell are those, Dean?
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The ones that we had at primary school came out of the wall,
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like kind of were fixed to the yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like like almost some drying
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racks or something. Yeah, and yeah, the climbing and
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then the ropes and all that crap.
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They were some highly underutilized.
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Yeah. Anyway, it's that car show.
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What's up? It is how are you guys it's.
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Good, it's raining here. What about there?
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I know it sounds like you're having a bit of a tornado,
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typhoon, hail, smorgasbord. I we live in this weird like
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strip where like nothing touches us, knock on wood.
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It always goes north or South, north or South.
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And so once again it seemed to bypass us.
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But I've got this giant car. Thank you Genesis USA.
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I've got AG 90. It's a car I hardly knew
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existed. I'm writing an article for
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Autoblog about Kenny family dot dot dot sedan question mark and
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and that you know, everyone goes and immediately, you know, shops
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at a crossover, an SUV or whatever.
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And I was kind of thinking, well, maybe I'll I'll get a a
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mid sized sedan, you know, a typical mid sized sedan.
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And then this thing shows up and had I done my research, I would
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have known guys, this thing, I'm not even sure it would fit in my
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garage. And I don't have a small garage.
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The the car is giant. You can put you park it in.
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It's massive. It is like, do you remember like
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a 750 Illinois of your right, like the extended wheelbase, you
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know. So this is, yeah, 2025.
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I don't know. You can probably see it behind
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me, behind the lawnmower there. G90.
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It's a hell of a thing. It's got a 3.5 liter 6 cylinder
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that is twin turbocharged and I think also has an electric
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supercharger. So it's 400 horsepower and
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change, but it's also a hell of a lot of car to move around.
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Is it quick? Like could you remake Ronin with
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it? See, now The thing is, it's
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probably faster than anything in that movie, right?
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It's zero to 60 and 5.9, but it just doesn't feel fast.
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I mean, driving the the pole start right where it's quick off
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the line, right? You know, it's just a different
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thing. You get used to that.
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This is not that it's a, you know, a bit of a hesitation, but
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it's it's plenty of plenty of power, you know, plenty of
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plenty powerful do. You feel like it's turbo lag?
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Do you feel like it's the? Way a little bit like I think
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it's probably got a 10 or 12 speed transmission and it's got
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auto Start Stop too. So you know which I finally
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figured out how to turn off. But guys, it has a chauffeur
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mode. And this is, this is not a
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driver's car. This is a passenger car.
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And I was trying to think how many passenger cars like this
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exist right outside of, like, the upper echelons of, you know,
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Rolls Royce, Bentley. My Bach.
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My Bach, Yeah, this is a budget, My Bach.
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And I think that is the best way.
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I've heard it referred to as a budget.
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Rolls Royce. No, this is a budget.
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My Bach It is it. Has that volume.
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It oh volume, yeah, it goes to 11, yeah.
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Yeah, physically, literally and figuratively.
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It's in a beautiful white matte finish, which I, I don't know
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how you keep that nice, but I'm sure there are ways.
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And I was out driving it today and I can tell you a little bit
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more about it 'cause there's so much to share.
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But I saw a car that I had. I did a triple tank.
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Do you know the movie Superfly? It's like this 70s
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blaxploitation. It's a, it's a pimp car
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basically. And I don't like the term, but
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the movie was about a pimp and he drove a car that I think was
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a, a Lincoln or a Cadillac of its era.
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And you'd know it if you saw one.
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Do you remember the Excalibur cars that people drove, right?
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The neo classics, right? This was kind of like that, but
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built on one of those 70s cars and and retains a little more of
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that sort of square bodied shape.
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But it has these headlights that I can't really describe.
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If I, if I get off my butt later when I edit this, I'll I'll put
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a picture in here, but it's got these giant headlights that sort
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of have these metal bars that come in almost like a Lantern in
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there like. An aircraft plane, like a really
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old aircraft plane light. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's there.
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It's it's like, like they should be gas, gas lanterns or
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something. And they're giant.
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And it looks like a like Benjamin Buttons, you know,
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spectacles, you know, shining back.
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Yeah. You know, it's just it's, it's
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an odd, odd thing. And I wanted to get the Gen. a
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picture of the Genesis next to this pit mobile, because it
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would have been perfect. It was black.
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It had all the Chrome. I don't know who was driving it.
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I don't know what possesses someone to obtain such a
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vehicle. And it was this beautiful day
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and I guess he was just out driving it like I was driving.
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There so many questions so. Many questions I want.
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To know everything. I wanted to I was so wanted to
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get the pic the cars next to each other.
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I would have had a great and. Get the story.
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Yeah, get. The story, you know, but not
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that this is a pimp car, but it is pimped out it's got
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everything. It's the the rear seats in the
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back lie flat, much like a Maibach, but not a 57.
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You know, in the old school Maibach parlance, like the the
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62, right? It's got that, you know, it's
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got a screen. The screen in the back overrides
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the stereo and air conditioning controls for the front.
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So that tells you who the car's for who's the boss, right?
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Who's the boss? And so far it's been my
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daughter, who I've been shuttling around just for fun,
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does. It mean like the seats do you
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get like a nice massage? Oh my God, in all four seats and
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it's a good massage. I went, I got my biannual Manny
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Petty earlier today, you know, and they put you in that like
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that terrible massage seat that every time I turn it off, the
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lady turned it back on. I stop.
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It's hurting me. This is not that.
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This is this feels good. And you can, you know, dial it
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in. It's all four seats.
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It's got power shades and all all the windows in the back.
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It's got dual sunroofs. It's got a banging holes and
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stereo. It's got in lieu of wood.
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It's got I think it's like pressed carbon fiber or molded
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carbon fiber like a Lamborghini, right.
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You know where it's almost this camouflage.
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It is, it's, it's, I don't know. It's not only my style, but it
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is a hell of a thing to drive around for a week and we are
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like. How much does that cost?
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So it starts at 99 five. So I, I was shocked because I
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think that's more than A7 series starts at.
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I don't know what an S class is at these days and I haven't
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driven either one of those in years.
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So I don't know that the value proposition is there.
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I think the previous generation started at 70 or 75.
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And that makes sense, right? It's got big beautiful wheels,
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but I don't think it has anything special in the
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suspension. Maybe I'm wrong.
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One thing it seems to do is it seems to lift its front end when
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you slow down for like a dip in the road or something or which
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is which is cool or that or just hasn't hasn't managed to scrape
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yet. Hell of a thing.
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It's got a brown leather interior.
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It is 70 smells good. You know, it's, it is something,
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it is what you'd want to take three friends like on a trip
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from like LA to New York in or something into that.
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Or it's like the modern swingers, like if you're going
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to remake swingers. Yeah, yeah, I want someone to
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drive me in the back, right, like I want, you know, with a
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couple buddies or whatever. I'm taking my daughter, my wife
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and my daughter's friend to a concert tomorrow night and I'm
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going to drop them off like I'm, you know, Yeah, you are a lift
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black car pumping AJR in front of the band.
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AJR. Nice.
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Yeah, That's that's what will be on the soundtrack.
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But anyway, thank you. Genesis USA Drive shop because
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it is a it's a fun car and it is growing on me.
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This happens a lot. You get a car not so sure about
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after day or two, you don't want to get the thing back.
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But I bet when I get back in my GT4, it's going to seem like the
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quickest, tiniest, you know, raciest little thing ever
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because this is very much on the other end of the spectrum.
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Have either one of you had any experience with Genesis or cars
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like this? I have sat in a Maibach like a
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new Yeah. And it was remarkable.
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And like you said, I mean, it's just very passenger oriented, as
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we all know. And I saw the genesis that you
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have. I saw three of them in the
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parking out in the field at Lamar, right, Right.
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And I saw them from far away. And I was like, what is that?
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Because it was enough. It was Maibach esque enough.
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But I'm like, I knew it wasn't a Maibach, but I'm like, what is
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it? It's giant.
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It's just voluminous. And definitely it drew me in.
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I'm like I have to go see what this.
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Is, yeah. Not the directly I needed to be
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going. Yeah, exactly.
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It's like the homing beacon. Yeah, I haven't driven them, but
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fascinating because it was enough like a Mybot that we're
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like, yeah, it's going on, but it's a Genesis.
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Yeah. We knew it was brand new.
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So yeah, it's really interesting to hear what it's like to
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actually experience. Yeah, yeah.
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And maybe this makes more sense as a car, right, If you, I
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imagine this was created for like Korean executives or
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something and they just decided, hey, we'll sell some in the
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States and see if it hits, right.
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I don't think I've ever seen one on the road, but yeah.
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But yeah, I mean, it's it's an interesting proposition for
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Genesis because they were spun out into their own brand, you
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know, just in the last couple years as the more luxury brand.
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So it makes sense that they would sort of like dip their toe
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in something like this. But yeah, I mean, we're all used
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to my Bach, and we sort of understand what that means to
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try and introduce something that's like relatively
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competitive, you know, obviously much more affordable.
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But it'll be interesting to see how this unfolds and whether it
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does find an audience in the States.
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Yes, yes, I think it probably shares an audience with what is
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it the Crown sedan, not the US one, but the one that they sell
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in Japan, right, with the Lacy curtains and and all that, you
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know. But this is a much more modern
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option. Yes, yes.
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That styling, you know, does look a little dated.
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Even the new one, yeah. Unique as it is, yeah.
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So this could be a different solution or different option for
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somebody who wants that but doesn't really care for that
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styling. It's that vibe every time you
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get in that car. It's Suntory time.
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I mean, it is, it is, is that vibe.
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It is swanky Asian businessmen businesswoman car, but it
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basically, you know, we've talked about this a lot, but
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what is luxury in 2025, right? Just throwing everything.
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It's like that SNL skit about the nightclubs, right?
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Like this club has little people on unicycles and like this car
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has everything that you that you think is luxury, right?
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Past and present future, right? Exactly.
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You know, I'm still discovering little things you can do.
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Like I can open the back doors from the front seat by pressing
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a button, right? You know, it's probably an
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umbrella in the door. So I.
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Was going to say other umbrellas in the doors.
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I'm excited for your article, man, because you've been like,
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here are the quirks and features of MM.
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Hmm. Mm hmm.
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Yeah, yeah, should be an easy one.
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So it starts at 99 five, that's the base without any options
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like what is the one that you're driving?
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Retail. Yeah, I've got to pull the
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Monroney sticker, but I know it starts at 99 five.
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There is a smaller engine, or at least one that's less complex
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that has a little bit less power, and I think that one may
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start a little bit less. But you know, if you are, I
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don't know if you want to be driven, you don't have many
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options, right? This would be 1 as a driver's
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car. It's not a bad thing.
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I mean, it's relatively quick. It stops well, you know, but
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it's probably not what I would choose to drive myself.
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I don't know that there's a short wheelbase version or a
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sporty version necessarily. It's just it's kind of
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everything that I don't look for in a car, but it's also kind of
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kind of amazing. And you know, as I get older and
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wearier and you know, my, my, I guess my priorities change.
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I assume cars like this will be more appealing or not, I don't
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know. It's a great car.
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It's a hell of a lot of fun for a week.
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We're going to do fun family things in it.
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We're going to write about it. And, you know, I mean, it's,
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it's a, it's a, it's a hell of a thing.
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It's a hell of a. Yeah, well, enjoy the
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experience, you know, I mean, and that's kind of the fun of
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getting to try different cars as you get to try it on and you
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don't have to live with it if you decide it's not for you.
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I will say I've had two people come up to me as the car was
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parked in front of the house and said nice car.
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I don't know that they know what it is, right.
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I think probably see the wing thing things to Bentley,
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honestly, or something. Right.
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But no one's ever said shit about the GT4 or the pole star.
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But I've had two people in two days comment on how much they
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like the Genesis. So.
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Wow. But next time I'll ask them, do
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you know what it is or do you know, like, you know, is this.
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No, I mean, it's just, you know, I don't know what.
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Yeah. Like, I didn't really know that
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this car existed. It was not on my radar.
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Sure, the G70 or the, you know, sedan or the SUV, the GX-70 or
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you know, whatever, but. You should make some bullshit
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up. You should tell them it's a pro
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the time Bentley and they're not allowed to take any pictures of
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it and it's just wearing a Genesis badge so no one realizes
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and see how far. That's very good.
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I've done things like that, Dan. So, so maybe record next.
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I'll have a story for you. Expect a phone call from Bentley
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PR. Yeah.
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How far can you take it before you know it's bullshit?
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Like kind of like that letter, that Coldplay guy letter that
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you wrote where I thought it was pretty real until the bit of
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until he quoted Coldplay. The lyrics.
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Yeah, which by the way, you can't see this, you listeners
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and viewers. But you know, much like a Zoom
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call, when we record this, it's on a platform called Riverside.
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I'm Ryan Barkey. I see Lindsay, Josh and then
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there's a Chris Martin there to my left.
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Just to tribute to last episode, but presumably will people see
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if they watch on YouTube or does it?
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Yeah, I'll put some pictures in there.
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No, I mean the names. Do the names disappear?
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I believe they do, yeah. Yeah.
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Sorry. They'll see the car.
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They won't see Chris Martin. But I do love the tribute to the
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worldwide hero. Yeah, yeah.
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Not often that someone unites the entire world.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that the incidents of
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of or the incident of of recent days has sent Chris Martin into
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a tailspin. 25 kidding. This is turning into a podcast.
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It's turning into a bullying session, which takes my sad
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attempt at a segue. Bullying.
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Protocol, you know, Jalopnik, you know it's no auto blog, but
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occasionally they'll have a good article.
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One day get. There one day there's certainly
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no drive, but or certainly no trying.
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To start a start a battle of the.
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We love Jalopnik. Yeah, we like Jalopnik.
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And I think that's where we saw the article.
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And I guess there's some some legislation in play in Tennessee
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of all places. Now that would not be at the top
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of my list of of the states that would be implementing anti
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bullying legislation. But but basically if you're a
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kid and you're a Dick, they can take your driver's license away.
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If you are found cyber bullying, bullying someone in the
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classroom, or just generally being a jerk, they can take your
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driver's license away. And sounds OK to me.
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I don't think I can. We send this to adults, right?
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Well, what I think is so interesting too is I'm really
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curious to see if it gets passed in some form because we all know
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a lot of these go through, you know, multiple iterations and
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they have to go through multiple votes or whatever.
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If it does get put into law, I'll be really curious to see
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how often it's actually applied, like how often they have a
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chance to apply it. Right.
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How do you quantify it? You have.
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To like to actually be impacted and have your license taken
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away, you have to be convicted of bullying in court.
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So I'm curious, like, how often does that actually happen where
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it makes it to that level? But I wonder if even if somebody
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isn't officially convicted and doesn't officially lose their
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license, will the threat of this be enough to maybe keep a few
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more people you know, help them make nicer choices and treat
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each other better? Yeah.
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And this wasn't specific to automotive bullying, right?
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I I'd maybe have. Missed.
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No, no, no. The punishment would be
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bullying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I thought it was like. Tailgating someone or.
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No, no. Clicking them off with driving
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the undertake or you know, no. Does that venture bullying?
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No. So it's any bullying.
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Yeah. So does that venture too close
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to sort of like thought policing like I don't know, but I.
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Don't know. I mean, you could like, I, I was
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surprised to learn that you could be convicted of bullying
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in court. I didn't know that was even a
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thing. Yeah, where were these laws when
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we were 13, Right, You know? Are politicians exempt?
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Yeah, well, that's right though. That's yeah, that's the irony,
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right? If you're making the laws, they
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don't apply. Yeah, it's what is it?
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Rules for me not or rules for thee not for me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's, that's basically, But, you know, I mean, I, you know,
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I, I didn't have it half as bad as a lot of kids when I was
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younger. But I do remember I had one, the
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two, two bullies in my life, one when I was younger, one that was
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more, you know, 5th grade middle school.
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And I still remember that both their names.
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And I think I may have told the story at one time on one of the
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podcasts about I went back from my 10 year high school reunion
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and went in to get a car washed and that bully was washing my
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car. So sometimes.
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Karma is a bitch. Karma is a bitch and we do love
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her. And Lindsay, what was it?
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And they drive, but she drives a big truck and she drives.
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Yeah, she she drives a big bus and she remembers your name and
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address. Do you remember this?
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Do you remember the scene and Back to the Future when when
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Biff, you know, the scene flips and he starts washing the car.
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This is before he came president, by the way, But there
20:12
was a brief moment in the Back to the Future.
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Reverse. Where where he was washed in the
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car and it just, you know, that felt OK.
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Wait, this moment has come to life.
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I'm living back to the future. So anyway, but that's
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interesting. I don't know, we'll see if it,
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you know, they'll probably attach it to some pork belly
20:29
bill or something And and you know, it'll never come to
20:33
fruition, but I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm at least willing
20:36
to learn more. You know, I, I think people, the
20:40
level of civility has gotten to the point where we're all just
20:43
looking for a fight, you know, a lot of the time, myself
20:46
included. And I don't know, maybe we need
20:47
a little reining in, but anyway. Yeah, I think you're right.
20:53
Like that's maybe that would just be a good incentive to
20:57
encourage people to treat each other.
21:01
Yeah, especially the car. I mean, we know it would upset
21:03
the car people, the threat. Of having a drive for a year.
21:06
Might be enough to make. You righted it.
21:09
The kids even care about driver's licenses anymore.
21:11
And we've talked about this before the the move in my
21:13
neighborhood and other neighborhoods near me is it's
21:15
kind of what I remember being big in in Socal a couple years
21:18
ago. It's these like motorcycle style
21:21
electric bikes right whizzing around.
21:25
I mean, that definitely seems to be where their hearts are these
21:29
it may be time to regulate those two by the way, but.
21:32
Yeah, I mean there are packs of those all over.
21:35
I mean, especially when school's in session, it's just a constant
21:39
parade of those into the junior high.
21:41
I think the only, and now I'm not at the high school, so I'm
21:45
not seeing what's happening there.
21:46
But I think really the only impact of the electric bikes is
21:50
that it is motorizing. It's putting kids on vehicles
21:53
who are too young to have their licenses.
21:55
So I don't know when they get to 16, you know, and they, yeah,
21:59
they're, they're quick. So I don't know if they're
22:03
getting to 16 and they're like, yeah, but I have this electric
22:05
bike. I'm good.
22:07
I mean, I know that would not have been me, but.
22:09
Yeah, maybe they need to be licensed.
22:12
And Speaking of licenses, Dan, you just got your.
22:15
No, I just read today. I got plates.
22:18
You got plates? OK, you have a hack.
22:22
What's that? You have a hack if you want to
22:23
get your plates in a Jiffy I. Do although I've got an anti
22:27
hack as well. So the story is a few weeks ago
22:30
I went into AAA. Yeah, so the Automobile
22:35
Association of America can issue number plates.
22:38
So I thought just. In California though, right?
22:42
I don't know, it might be everywhere, but it worked in
22:44
California. But as we talked about in the
22:47
previous episode, I went to get it done a few weeks ago and they
22:51
were like, where is your smog test?
22:53
And I went, I beg your pardon, and I had to get the car smog
22:55
tested, but no one told me. So I went back in this week and
23:00
it was a very easy process. And I've got beautiful number
23:05
plates that sit on the the Audi now.
23:09
But the next step, which is what I'm not looking forward to, is
23:14
in order to swap my Washington state driver's license for a
23:18
California driver's license. Apparently the laws are so
23:22
slightly different that you have to pass the written test and an
23:27
eye test. So at the moment I've got
23:31
ChatGPT creating quizzes for me on the the different questions
23:36
that I might get asked. I think you're probably
23:38
overthinking this. And if the eye test in
23:40
California is anything like the eye test in any state I've ever
23:43
lived in, it's a box that sits on the counter that you are able
23:46
to use your glasses or contacts. And there's like a three inch
23:49
tall, you know, set of numbers that you just have to, you know,
23:52
I don't think it's real intense. The written test.
23:56
That's pretty wild that you have.
23:58
But I remember when I moved out here like so this was 11 years
24:01
ago, someone said to me you should do like a pre driver's
24:06
test with an instructor and you basically book an hour ahead of
24:10
your test and they do the test with you and they tell you the
24:13
the way to do it and stuff. And I was so close to getting
24:17
100% on the practical. But I think if I had of got 100%
24:22
the instructor gets investigated.
24:25
So this guy knocked me down to points which was completely
24:29
judge worthy and something that I'm still holding on to, right?
24:33
Now, yeah, that's a boy and. I hadn't noticed.
24:36
I'm really glad that you've worked through it and let it go.
24:38
Yeah, so he was dead. You.
24:40
Remember his? Name taken?
24:41
Yeah, and now he's gonna be washing my damn car.
24:44
Yeah. Karma's on the way to that guy's
24:47
house right now in her bus. Come on.
24:49
And for the record, listen, we're all big fans of car
24:52
washes, car detailing. It's not this this, this, this
24:55
wasn't this wasn't ammo NYC, OK, This was, this was your, your
24:59
neighborhood, you know, car. It's not a yeah, it's not a
25:02
knock on car wash. No, no, no at all.
25:05
No. Big big fan of of those who keep
25:07
our cars good. In each this space and hopefully
25:11
I will have a driver's license soon.
25:13
That's crazy. Yeah, it's, there's been a lot
25:16
of that going around and I know, you know, obviously my fiance
25:19
moved here and then I have other family that have moved here.
25:21
And Dan, I don't know if you ran into this because maybe AAA
25:24
helps, but here getting an appointment to get a Washington
25:28
state license, they're booking out like 3 or 4 months.
25:33
And but you need to have your license to renew your vehicle
25:36
tabs or to switch the vehicle tabs here.
25:39
And so people are people who have moved here knowing their
25:42
tabs were going to expire and not, you know, they said, OK,
25:45
I'll just renew them when I get to Washington in the correct
25:48
state and then get here and can't get a license for several
25:50
months. And they're going like, what do
25:53
we do? So luckily, if you are in that
25:55
situation, the office will give you an appointment sooner.
25:58
But you have to go in and sort of plead your case and say,
26:01
like, this car is going to be unregistered.
26:04
What do we do? What's the problem here?
26:06
Like, where are they dropping the ball?
26:07
It's not like, you know, you have a million people moving to.
26:10
I think part of the reason is because in May this year they
26:15
updated the flight details, right?
26:18
So you have a. Real ID.
26:20
Well, but so here's the weirder thing too.
26:22
They're still issuing the old IDs.
26:24
They're still issuing regular IDs, but then when you go to the
26:27
airport, they're like, where's your real ID?
26:28
You have to have a real ID. Why would they even still be
26:31
issuing the old ones? Do do we even know what the real
26:34
ID entails? I know you get a little like a
26:36
like a like a Dallas Cowboys star on your piece of plastic.
26:42
I think if you then get stopped by the police, you can use it,
26:44
yeah. Yeah, I'm like, oh, the jokes
26:46
right themselves or do they? Yeah.
26:49
Well, it's yeah, I think it's a more extensive like you have to
26:52
provide more documentation to. Get it?
26:54
But what's weird is that, yeah, they said, OK, we'll give you an
26:58
earlier appointment, but we aren't doing the REAL ID at the
27:01
earlier appointment. So you're going to have to come
27:02
back for that. It's a mess, bureaucracy.
27:06
Across the board, it's a mess. Somebody lived in Chicago for 20
27:09
years. I can tell you no matter what
27:11
you're dealing with, it's probably not as bad as what you
27:13
deal with there. That said, here in Denver, if
27:19
you live anywhere in the state but Denver, you have one set of
27:21
DMVS. If you live in Denver, you have
27:24
a different set of DMVS. So go figure What?
27:26
Does that even. Mean you just if you live in
27:30
Denver, you can't go to a DMV like in the next county over,
27:33
right? Yeah, it's it's really.
27:36
Yeah, I have no idea. I'm sure.
27:38
Yeah, sure. There's a reason.
27:40
Sure it's. A very good reason.
27:43
Speaking of good reasons, I'm sure there was a good reason
27:45
someone stole Chris Harris E28M5 this week.
27:49
But how about it? Either one of you know Harris at
27:53
all? I don't.
27:54
I mean, I met him briefly in Le Mans.
27:56
We talked about the podcast for five seconds.
27:58
That's true. So yes, of the three of us.
28:03
Well, he said he was a fan. He.
28:05
Likes that guy. He was like, yes, absolutely.
28:07
I listen every week and I said well I do the same.
28:09
Thing he heard it here first, so I didn't even know he had this
28:13
car. I know he's had some GT threes
28:15
and some other stuff, but apparently had this E28M5, yeah,
28:19
the second best of all M fives, you know?
28:23
Second only to the E39. Is that what we're saying?
28:26
You know, I'm, I'm a sucker for the, what is it, the E 31?
28:33
Is that the one that ahead of the one that he had?
28:36
No, the one after E 31, right? The one that's got the the
28:39
turbine wheel covers. Which was the V10 because they
28:42
did AV 10. That was that's probably my
28:44
least favorite M5. Yeah, yeah.
28:46
I think we need to get them all reviewed on your the website.
28:50
That you all right if you're listening.
28:51
There's your next series. Yeah, I have successfully driven
28:56
a career GT Surely you can throw me the keys to your M5 of each
29:01
generation. But right.
29:03
I love that E 28 though. That's a good one that that's
29:05
when if you had one of those, that was something special.
29:07
And I remember the first time I ever saw one of those.
29:09
I was working in a record store in Wisconsin and a guy rolled up
29:13
and I heard the exhaust and I never seen one.
29:15
And you just didn't see M fives in Wisconsin.
29:18
And I just thought that was the greatest thing ever.
29:21
I probably told this story. I went out to him and said I'm
29:23
not in a position to buy this car now, but someday I will be
29:25
or you know, my dad will buy it here, take my information and
29:28
when you're ready to sell it, I want to buy it.
29:29
And he, he wrote me back recall it was just probably pre
29:32
Internet. So he called and I've always had
29:35
a special place in my heart for an E28.
29:37
But anyway, he had one. Where was the thing parked?
29:40
Was it on the street? Was it his house?
29:42
Like sounded. Like it was parked on the street
29:45
because of his, when he wrote about the recovery, he commented
29:49
like these cars are becoming, like his feeling is the cars are
29:52
becoming targets now. And so we have to be more aware
29:54
or like more cognizant of where we're leaving them.
29:57
So it sounded like it was not in a garage or something like that.
30:00
OK, OK. So the the power of the Internet
30:04
was that he published a story on Instagram that the car had been
30:09
stolen. And.
30:11
Within, I think it was within 24 hours, someone found the car,
30:16
stood by it till he arrived. So like to make sure he didn't
30:20
get stolen when he got there. And if you saw the video but
30:23
they went in on one of the backside windows.
30:27
So that was the way they broke in.
30:29
But a funny story. They used to be away back in the
30:32
80s, if you wanted to break into a BMW of a certain ilk, you
30:37
would take a tennis ball and you would chop the tennis ball in
30:40
half. You would cup it over the
30:43
ignition. You know the the unlocking
30:46
mechanism. And you would hit it hard and it
30:49
would create a vacuum. And when it created a vacuum,
30:52
all the central locking would pop up and you'd get into the
30:54
car. So it was a pneumatic kind of
30:56
thing? Yeah.
30:57
Wow. How do you ignore this?
31:00
Just just a life of crime, a life.
31:02
Of crime, Well, Speaking of is, is like, you know, is this
31:06
common? I mean, is the UK, you know,
31:08
slipping? Like what?
31:10
It depends on the cars, right? Yeah, For quite a while, Range
31:13
Rovers were uninsurable in London.
31:15
Really. Brand new ones.
31:16
Really. Really.
31:18
Because of you, you got a Range Rover trick.
31:20
It involved a lacrosse ball and a can of WD40 it.
31:25
Was a table tennis ball. You you winked your left eye
31:29
three times and bound the table for the ball on the hood and all
31:31
the doors pop. Up right.
31:33
Also I think there's a joke about small balls and Range
31:35
Rover drivers, but I'll. Save it for another show, yeah.
31:40
That's the after hours. Right, right.
31:42
That's. The Patreon, Yeah.
31:44
Join us on the Patreon for the Off Coach.
31:46
But the good news is he's got the car back.
31:48
The bad news is did do a bit of damage.
31:50
Yeah. So like.
31:51
Would they, I mean just from driving it hard or?
31:54
It was the electrics near the barrel, the ignition barrel, it
31:56
was all kind of ripped out. But like, I don't know about you
31:59
guys, but I put Apple Car tags in my cars.
32:03
Is that something you guys thought about?
32:05
Come on, Harris Monkey. Yeah.
32:08
He may do that now. No, I haven't thought about it
32:11
before, but I have heard of other people doing that.
32:13
I think it's a smart like a good safety move if.
32:16
I look, I can probably tell you where my GR Corolla that I sold
32:19
two months ago is. That's what that rattle is.
32:24
I made a minute. I saw one up here the other day,
32:27
same color as yours and I was like is Dan's old one.
32:30
Yeah, Could it be? Well, Dan can tell you.
32:32
Yeah, exactly. I can tell you where it was a
32:36
week ago and we can see if it was the same one.
32:38
I just learned that I always wondered how those worked
32:41
because again, I'll be turning 50 this year.
32:42
Oh, Speaking of missing cars, and I've got this Genesis.
32:46
I went to have some some work done today and on myself, car
32:50
weeks coming up. And as we discussed before the
32:52
show, I had big plans getting in shape, you know, looking good
32:56
for car weeks. Brazilian buttocks.
33:00
BBL. That's a good.
33:03
BBL in under an hour. Well, I figure if I get my nails
33:08
and my toes did I can at least have that going for me.
33:10
But I I drove this thing and I parked it on the street and, you
33:12
know, by itself under a tree. And I came out and, you know,
33:16
sure enough, that car was nowhere to be found.
33:19
I was out there walking around in circles with the remote car
33:23
like I was 85 years old, you know, and I had just parked the
33:27
car street over, of course and as.
33:30
One does. It was I thought maybe, you
33:32
know, the Kia boys had extended to, you know, Hyundai and and
33:35
turned Genesis or something the Genesis boys.
33:37
But I figured the Genesis takes more than a, you know, a.
33:41
Tennis ball. A tennis ball.
33:43
And a drummer called Phil. Yeah, that's, that's the other.
33:47
That car only plays Genesis on the bank.
33:49
No, it doesn't. But it does have moods, right?
33:52
It has moods so you can get in and don't know who in the right
33:55
mind would ever do it. But there are a handful of like
33:58
moods. One of them is like driver
34:00
Energizer. Another is like, you know,
34:02
coming down gently or something like it's like real, like, you
34:06
know, contrived things where it plays something on the on the
34:10
screen, which could be, say hot air balloons, like floating
34:12
around. But it's very, you know,
34:14
obviously not real. Or I think one has a volcano and
34:16
then it it emits a smell which I have not yet spelled myself.
34:20
Maybe it's run dry and then, you know, I probably massages you to
34:24
a certain rhythm and then plays that.
34:26
It plays a soundtrack that's very much like you're on hold.
34:29
So I don't know when you would actually do this, like outside
34:32
of the showroom. But if you ever find yourself in
34:34
the Genesis, please do promise you'll play with those.
34:38
Please enjoy the. Whatever you do, if you've got
34:40
the family in the car, don't click on the happy endings
34:42
button. You gotta scroll all the way to
34:46
the bottom. The hot air balloon Muzak mood.
34:51
It's like these hot air balloons, like they're kind of
34:53
going to and fro and like like, oh, please don't hit the
34:55
mountain. Like it's really odd.
34:56
It's like, you know, I don't know, old school animation or
34:59
something. It's just very, very strange.
35:01
But they're like. Look, we can make the pictures
35:03
move. Like it's a zoetrope or
35:09
something or whatever that mechanism is back in the but.
35:12
Well, I always wonder about those too, because I know there
35:15
was an event that I went to at Car Week last year and they were
35:17
unveiling a car and it had a similar thing.
35:20
So you can choose these sort of modes and our hope is that
35:23
people will take, you know, 10 minutes for themselves when they
35:25
get home and sit in the car and enjoy these.
35:27
Is that what that is OK? Experiences, but yeah, when you
35:31
see. Cars dispensing alcohol.
35:35
Well, and when you think about like, OK, if you're you can
35:39
play, it sounds like you can play them in the Genesis while
35:41
you're driving. It's like, do we really want
35:43
people going like, hey, look at the hot air balloon as they're
35:45
driving down the road? Dan, you sent over a list of the
35:49
most stolen cars, and I know it's not a genesis, but #1
35:54
Hyundai Elantra #2, Hyundai Sonata, and then the Chevy
35:59
Silverado, 15 hundreds, so. The American bit of Korean but
36:05
is the Hyundai the Genesis cousin is that.
36:09
Yeah, I think isn't it? Wasn't it Kia supposed to be
36:11
sort of like the lower cars until they weren't and then it
36:15
became more of a styling exercise.
36:16
If you wanted something a little different looking you got a Kia
36:19
and Hyundai was more traditional and then Genesis is just like
36:23
fancy boy stuff so. Genesis isn't the luxury brand.
36:29
Yes, yes, yes, yeah. And as expensive as a Lexus or
36:32
anything else now. So yeah, you know, Dan, you sent
36:37
in a comment about Supros and how they're having a moment.
36:39
And I think you're right. I don't have a whole lot of
36:41
super experience. Mine is limited to when my buddy
36:43
Andy was supposed to be gifted A Supra by his father who was a
36:48
car used car dealer. And he we had this vision of an
36:52
86 and on and it ended up being an 85, which was a very
36:55
different car. It was also an automatic and
36:58
really wasn't that sporty, but got us through a summer, you
37:01
know, working a summer job up in Wisconsin.
37:04
But is it the? Is it the Gen. 5 that we all
37:07
know and love that? From Fast and Furious.
37:11
Is that the Gen. 4? We should know this.
37:13
We have to edit this out. We're going to get a card taken
37:16
away. Like the really good one, the
37:18
one that was like 4.9 seconds to 60, right?
37:21
Like in, you know, the 90s. The ones I saw were the 90s ones
37:27
on Bring a Trailer and yeah yeah, yeah.
37:28
Those are the. Those are the ones you.
37:29
Want. I remember when those cars were
37:33
like 40 grand. I know.
37:35
And then there was a regular car and then there was a twin turbo,
37:37
right? And but they had this, it was
37:40
such a departure from the car before it had and someone, we're
37:44
going to have 10 people or whatever correct this on the
37:46
generation. But you know the one, it's the
37:48
big basket. At least if it you got the
37:50
turbo, it was the big basket sort of handle, you know,
37:53
spoiler or wing in the back. It had this great cockpit that
37:56
was, you know, driver oriented. They were legit fast.
38:01
You know, they were really, really cool cars.
38:03
There was a Targa version, right?
38:06
You know, I've never driven one. Would love to drive one.
38:09
You never see them, right? You see fewer of these than you
38:12
do G 90s, right? Say it, but why?
38:19
I mean, and honestly, the Genesis is probably almost as
38:21
fast even if it doesn't feel like it, but that thing was a
38:23
rocket back in the day and and why wouldn't they be $100,000
38:26
right if Porsches of the era are are that right it?
38:32
Makes you wonder which cars are undervalued, right?
38:34
So. Are there any left I?
38:36
Want to jump to my mind? Are those Nissan ZS from the 80s
38:41
all? The ones our friend Jorge likes,
38:43
he likes the 90 and on right, the 909190, yeah.
38:47
I don't think they've had their moment yet, have they?
38:50
No, and I remember it that much like the supers at the time,
38:52
they were contemporaneous to each other.
38:54
Yeah, I think the Supers were quicker, but there was also a
38:57
non turbo and there was a turbo, right or twin turbo or whatever
39:01
they used to make that beautiful pearlescent white 1.
39:03
You know, that was that was hot stuff.
39:06
But I don't think they were ever considered to be quite as good
39:08
in the, in the era or in the time as the the Supras.
39:11
But it would it would make sense that they would follow then,
39:14
right? That those would be the next big
39:16
thing. Or maybe they are.
39:17
Or hey, you can tell us it's. We're getting, we're getting.
39:20
No, no, you know that. I know boys, girls.
39:25
Let me set you straight, dude. Bros, what's happening?
39:31
We'll have to bring him on for that Jorge's corner again for 10
39:33
minutes or? Nobody puts Jorge in a corner.
39:37
Come on. That's true.
39:41
Hey, here's a question for you. I have a a a friend listener to
39:43
the show, an architect man about town named Matt.
39:49
I don't know how to say his last name, but Matthew, I guess he
39:51
goes by because he's an architect.
39:52
Matthew, no last name. Thanks for joining us.
39:56
Matt, it's called Matthew F He just fell into an interesting
40:01
thing, which is do you remember the, the Volvo cross country
40:04
like back like in the 2000s? It was, it was a great car.
40:08
There was like a first generation.
40:10
A wagon that was lifted, it had big wheels and tires.
40:14
You know, there was a first generation, This is the second
40:16
generation. This is this is the one that
40:18
really kind of, you know, came into its own and he was able to,
40:24
but they I think they made it like 2003, 2005.
40:26
I mean, the car is 20 plus years old, right?
40:29
He's a, he goes by scandomaniac on Instagram.
40:32
You may know him by that. So he likes, he likes the, the,
40:34
the cars of the people of the North, right.
40:36
So he fell into this car. It was, I think a great Ant or
40:39
something passed away. It's a 2003 cross country with I
40:44
think 12,000 miles on it. So it's like rolled off the
40:48
showroom floor, right? Yeah.
40:50
But it is, it's not a Porsche, right?
40:53
It's not a, you know, Ferrari or.
40:55
Something it would be. High miles right for 2003.
40:59
Does something like that appeal to either of you?
41:02
It appealed to him. He got it for free, which is
41:04
part of the I guess. I mean, that always makes
41:06
everything more appealing. Come on.
41:09
And I want to check it out because, you know, when is the
41:11
last time you saw one of these things and when is the last time
41:14
you saw one that was like new, right?
41:15
Yeah. Well, you've got another
41:18
article, haven't you? You could compare it to the all
41:21
Rd. That's what I've been saying.
41:23
Is that right? Sounds like a Volvo competitor
41:26
to the All Rd. Yeah, right, right.
41:28
Well, it doesn't. Volvo still make a lifted wagon?
41:32
I don't know if they called the cross country, maybe it's the XC
41:34
or something, but. Yeah.
41:35
I think they've moved more towards like the smaller SUVs,
41:38
maybe replaced, yeah. Yeah.
41:40
As far but I. I like those things.
41:43
Yeah. Back in the day, Hertz used to
41:44
rent them. We'd try to get them whenever we
41:46
could. I remember one time, you know,
41:48
because they were off road, there was a, there was a, a, a
41:52
railroad tie on the. No, actually, no, it was a, it
41:55
was a, it was a telephone pole that someone was using in a
41:57
parking lot. Like, is it, you know, a sort of
41:59
a border? Yeah.
42:00
And, you know, I looked at my buddy and said, yeah, yeah, we
42:03
can drive over that, right? And it got stuck.
42:07
It was a rental. I'm shocked, I'm shocked and.
42:11
Then the people at the restaurant for the parking lot,
42:13
like came out of the kitchen door like yelling at us.
42:15
What are you kids doing? And, you know, just 20 years
42:17
ago, 25. Years, the good job.
42:18
It's not now because you'd have had that Hertz AI scanner.
42:22
Yeah. Can we talk about that for a
42:23
second like. Do we want anything?
42:25
This is a this is a telephone pole on the ground.
42:28
Clearly did this damage. Right.
42:30
Yeah. It hasn't.
42:32
That's it. All Seinfeld, you're going to
42:34
beat one of these cars to death, right?
42:36
And we, we, we did, but do you know about this AI scanner that
42:39
we talked about this? Yeah, I think we're we did.
42:42
But yeah, it's. I've been thinking about this a
42:45
lot. Yeah, I guess if you're going to
42:48
rent from Hertz, rent from one of your local, you know, in an
42:51
old gas station type deals because they must have these at
42:55
airports and basically they run this car through an MRI and then
42:58
they see like what Dings didn't you know that are there that
43:02
didn't exist before. That makes me if you didn't need
43:05
another reason not to rent from Hertz.
43:07
This may be this may be what what keeps me from them forever.
43:11
Final nail. Right.
43:14
Yeah, and it's. Sorry.
43:16
High volume locations like where they're trying to run the cars
43:18
through like an airport or something like that.
43:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's and it's not, I just don't
43:26
trust them. That's my problem.
43:28
I, I'm pretty confident I can rent a car and not damage it,
43:31
right? But who's to say that, you know,
43:34
it wasn't the guy before me or the girl before me or whatever.
43:37
And I just, Hertz doesn't have a very good track record of trust
43:40
and, you know, all the things you want in a relationship.
43:43
There you go, you heard it here first.
43:46
Yeah, Hertz is the Coldplay guy of rental.
43:49
Car Next Week's episode brought to you by car rental Hertz.
43:54
And Astronomy dot AI. Sort of wise, yeah.
44:00
Do you have a, do you have a favorite car rental place either
44:03
of you like is who's your go to? Who do you have points with who
44:06
you know? No points, but I've had really
44:08
good luck with Avis particularly.
44:10
Avis. Eli at Avis in Monterey, right?
44:14
Would he be using his services in three weeks time?
44:17
Possibly. We'll see.
44:20
What would you think about getting him on the show?
44:22
Do we talk about this? That would be fun.
44:24
I'm sure he's got stories we can get.
44:28
We can get an insider's expert opinion on the Hertz AI scanner.
44:32
Yeah, yeah. Or.
44:33
We might need to get a representative from a car rental
44:36
company who is definitely not Eli and like do that thing where
44:39
the pictures black so you can't see his actual face and and that
44:43
way he can tell us all the stories.
44:45
Yes, yes, very deeply. It's like a silhouette, but it's
44:48
a super distinctive silhouette. Let me tell you a little thing
44:51
or two about hurts. You're like, yeah, I didn't.
44:53
Definitely know Eli. Right.
44:55
Hey, weren't you my gym teacher in middle school?
44:57
The voice is familiar. Wait a minute.
44:59
That's my. Favorite word?
45:01
They like, barely blur it and they don't change the voice.
45:04
They're like, you know, we can see you, right?
45:06
It's like a little kid playing hide and seek.
45:08
They're like look. Moves around.
45:11
Yeah, like. No shoot.
45:13
Not working shoot. Yeah.
45:15
Well, it made you feel comfortable, but yeah, doesn't
45:17
work. I'm looking at her show notes
45:20
here. And Lindsay, you had some.
45:22
You've seen some crazy cars on the road in Seattle, OR.
45:25
Some SoCal very crazy cars. Some really random.
45:27
Seattle lately, yeah, and there's it's been like K car
45:31
heavy. I saw one the other day.
45:34
And like, like Japanese K car, Sir.
45:37
I'm thinking like everyone's cruising around in like a coca
45:40
at Lebaron's, OK? No, no, no, no, like.
45:43
Thank you, Derek. Kei Yeah, they no, I saw a
45:47
Suzuki cappuccino which are teeny tiny.
45:50
And then I saw. I mean, and I saw another one
45:55
that was cappuccino sized, but it wasn't a cappuccino.
45:58
And I don't know what it was. I couldn't get close enough to
46:00
see what it was. But I saw it on the freeway.
46:02
Yeah. And nothing emphasizes maybe, I
46:06
mean, nothing emphasizes the teeny tininess of those cars,
46:10
like seeing it on the freeway. And there was definitely a
46:13
discussion of like, would you drive one of those on the
46:16
freeway? And I do not think I would.
46:18
Yeah. Yeah, but yeah.
46:20
And then I saw a Toyota will which.
46:22
What's a Toyota will? It's it's the only time I've
46:25
ever seen it and it's like, it really looks like a cartoon come
46:28
to life is the only way to describe.
46:29
It I mean, it's got. Like this up sharp angles and
46:32
diagonal lines and it's sort of like a like puffed up cabin with
46:36
big. Nose, it looks like that.
46:39
It looks like that was the Citroen van or whatever that had
46:42
that. Chopped.
46:43
But they, like, chopped it up. Yeah, it's.
46:45
Yeah. Wow.
46:45
And the one I saw was like a Unicorn, pinkish silver.
46:49
So it added to the like cartooning us.
46:51
Sure. Yeah, look at that.
46:53
That's an odd talk about getting in an accident.
46:56
Yeah, yeah, looks. Like it's already been in an
46:59
accident. Yeah, describe what you were
47:03
going for here with this design language.
47:06
Well, imagine post accident and there you have it.
47:10
But like they do a like they do like a soft top roof.
47:16
Oh man. You can get it.
47:17
You can see the roof. Well, the hard top looks exactly
47:20
like a Karen haircut brought to life.
47:23
But it looks like a can of sardines.
47:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got a jaunty angle to the
47:28
roof line. It's.
47:29
Yeah, and it peels back. The roof peels back.
47:32
Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's something that you
47:35
don't see much anymore. Yeah, yeah, The last couple cars
47:39
I could think of that had those what are the California tops or
47:42
whatever? Right.
47:43
Those peel back those sardine tops was there was.
47:46
Do you remember the 318 TI you could get?
47:49
Oh yeah, soft top. I think a very few of those in
47:51
the States had those. And then there was a weird like
47:52
Jeep Liberty that had those of all things I don't.
47:56
Think I ever saw one of those. I always think of the the Nissan
47:59
Murano convertible. That's a proper convertible,
48:03
Lindsay. As I know it's not a peel back,
48:06
but it just it's such an absurd proposition that it make like it
48:09
might as well be a peel back. Top.
48:11
You have one. These are $8000 to buy, all
48:14
right? Don't ask me how I know.
48:16
I had dozen. 2 wheel drive, a 1.3 litre engine automatic.
48:22
I'm surprised they even made it onto the freeway.
48:25
Yeah. There's something.
48:27
What a foreground. Here's one for four.
48:29
Oh wow. Hey, what a what a name the will
48:33
that's like the Brandon or the exactly you know, it's a very
48:36
benign for like older brother. For like the two hour, yeah.
48:42
The Toyota determination, yes, I think we will get on the
48:45
freeway. Yeah, the determination, yeah.
48:48
And then, yeah. And then the other one I saw was
48:50
a Ford Crown Vic sedan from the 80s driving on the freeway, and
48:54
it was for sale. Yeah, I was.
48:56
Never see those anymore. This used to be.
48:57
Ever, I know. I remember when the police cars
49:00
were those, Right? Yeah.
49:02
So like, you knew to watch out for those quad, you know,
49:04
rectangle headlights, you know, behind you.
49:06
It's. Yeah.
49:07
Yeah, definitely. Like I would be lying if I
49:10
didn't debate getting the number off of the for sale sign just
49:13
because like it's just, it's one of those things where you just
49:17
go like how can you not? Do you ever long for like an ex
49:20
police car of any sort? Like I do not.
49:25
I know one of our friends in California has a fleet of X, you
49:29
know, police cars and I know, you know, Jay Leno and his show
49:31
has has had some of these Mustangs and things.
49:34
But I always thought it'd be kind of cool that, you know,
49:36
maybe a Crown Victoria is too old now.
49:38
I was like the Dodge diplomat that ages me because that was
49:42
kind of a rare police car back in the day.
49:45
But I think it'd be something about a, you know, a relatively
49:47
new, you know, Ford Explorer or, you know, Taurus or something
49:50
with the spotlight and. The Spotlight.
49:54
Bullying. Think of the things.
49:55
Yeah, Speaking of bullying, I'm determined to lose my license
49:59
for a year. Used your eyes on this
50:01
spotlight. Well, I would love that.
50:04
The police cars are actually. It's a different vehicle.
50:08
You go like a police explorer and like, really it's like a
50:11
Mercury Marauder or something. Yes.
50:14
Like a police interceptor, Like I love that they get they're
50:18
different enough, they get their own names.
50:19
Yes, yes, yes. I don't know how different they
50:21
really were, but you know, it made for a better sale.
50:24
I said this the Mercury. What's in a name, right?
50:27
Yeah. Was there a less impressive
50:28
muscle car in the Mercury Marauder?
50:31
Sounds amazing, doesn't it? Yeah, it does.
50:34
I don't think much more. Tune you up and spit you out and
50:37
really not. Meant to compete with the with
50:40
the s s, right? The Impala SAS based on the
50:42
Caprice, which actually did I think have some power to it
50:46
because I think it was a detuned Corvette engines.
50:49
I don't know. The Michael La Sasso is pounding
50:51
his Where are you this keyboard right now?
50:56
Anyway, Dan, come on. You've sent me on a rabbit trip.
50:59
Like a rabbit hole trip. And on YouTube, apparently
51:02
there's a first look for a new 2025 Toyota wheel.
51:07
Ah, so I would encourage our listeners to go look at that
51:10
because it's still ugly. Where there's a will, there's a
51:12
way. Go look and put your deposits
51:15
in. Right.
51:17
I mean a brand new will what's? Not yeah, yeah, yeah, probably
51:21
not. What if they did a GR will?
51:24
Well, now we're talking. Yeah.
51:27
Yeah, yeah, there's, I mean, there's, there's a lot going on.
51:30
You should buy one and put an Apple tag in it, Dan.
51:32
That's right. That is right, but just.
51:34
Leave it with the keys in it and then we can just watch.
51:36
We're like, this is social experiment.
51:38
That's worth it for four grand we're.
51:40
Trying to get it stolen so we can see what happens.
51:42
Please stay on me. Danny didn't answer my question.
51:45
You live in California now? Yeah, land of chips.
51:48
You know, any desire to own an ex police car just for, you
51:51
know, shits and giggles? I think maybe a charger or a
51:54
challenger. Yeah, there you go.
51:56
Just to get people to move out of the left lane, Yeah, that
52:00
would be the only reason. Yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.
52:03
I think it'd be, you know, fun for a weekend, right?
52:06
Yeah. No.
52:06
Then you're probably playing with fire, but.
52:08
You're gonna go from the Genesis 90 to an ex police car.
52:11
Yeah, yeah. Just for the weekend, yeah.
52:14
We are helping you Ryan, with all your future articles.
52:17
No, I appreciate it. You guys are a font of a font of
52:20
ideas. Shoot, what else we you know,
52:24
we're at 51 minutes. It's almost a show, but I got
52:28
together. So you know, I've talked about
52:31
Fuel Fed, got the shirt on tonight.
52:33
Love Fuel Fed started with this group, I don't know, 20 plus
52:37
years ago, I think maybe 1520 years ago back in Chicago.
52:41
They are such a good car enthusiast group.
52:45
They're just just a great group. Everything they do much like
52:47
Avance, right? They just everything they do is,
52:49
is done, done, right. Started in in Chicago.
52:53
They have a chapter down in Fort Lauderdale and a chapter here in
52:55
Boulder or over there in Boulder.
52:59
I'm on the other side of the tracks, but shout out to them.
53:02
They were going to do something very cool last night.
53:04
There's a piece of property that one of the guys in the group
53:06
owns. It's where Zuffin Grupa and
53:09
other events for Fuel Fed have been held.
53:12
And they were going to do an outdoor movie where they showed
53:15
a classic car movie. I think it was Grand Prix with
53:20
what's his name, that one of those, one of those classic
53:24
stars of screen. Yeah.
53:25
It wasn't Steve McQueen. It was.
53:29
Yeah, Yeah. But it would have been so much
53:31
fun. And then we had a little bit of
53:33
weather and so it didn't happen. And so some of us still showed
53:37
up because, you know, we just didn't get the e-mail in time or
53:40
whatever. So there's a group of about
53:41
eight of us that went out for a drink at A, at a nice boulder,
53:47
you know, establishment and. And that was not outside, so it
53:50
wasn't weather. Defense, not outside and it
53:52
ended up, you know, it would have been fine, but you know,
53:54
you don't want to get your screen wet.
53:55
I get it, you know, but we were talking and pretty much I think
53:59
everyone but one at the table was or is going to car week.
54:03
And you know, it's so got us talking about what we're doing,
54:08
what we're not doing, you know, and it's just, I'm so excited.
54:12
It's going to be so great. It's 3 1/2 weeks away from the
54:15
time you hear this, maybe even 3 weeks, right?
54:17
Got to check the calendar. It's going to be here before we
54:19
know it. It's going to be amazing.
54:21
Every time I turn around, there's some new event that's
54:23
popping up or new opportunity. It's just going to be epic.
54:26
I just, I, you know, it's going to be great.
54:29
You guys, are you feeling the excitement?
54:31
Is it? Yeah.
54:32
Yeah. You look excited.
54:34
I wanted to give you both. A challenge maybe for next week.
54:36
OK, please, Which is maybe go and have a look at the auction
54:41
site for Car week and come back with two cars that you think our
54:46
listeners won't have realized are in the auctions.
54:50
So these big ticket cars always get a lot of press, but some of
54:55
these cars are like there's hidden fines or really
54:58
interesting cars. So two cars for next week from
55:02
all the auction sites. So that's everyone that's got an
55:04
auction, but just come up with two.
55:07
You know what, Speaking of hacks, that's a Car week hack.
55:10
If you're new to Car Week, I know we've got a few friends,
55:12
this will be their first car week, you know, and they ask,
55:15
well, what should we do? What shouldn't we do?
55:16
And some of these events are expensive, right?
55:18
Like Pebble and Quail and other things.
55:20
You know, all the auction houses are there and oftentimes the
55:22
previews are, are very, very inexpensive, right?
55:25
Some might even be free, I don't know.
55:26
They probably got to pay for all of them, but they're like 20
55:28
bucks or 40 bucks or whatever, right, to get in.
55:30
They're very, very inexpensive. And the cars there are as
55:33
amazing sometimes as anything you'll see anywhere else, right?
55:36
And they're for sale. So if you get drunk and got your
55:40
Amex card, you know, but so don't go to the auctions, go to
55:46
the previews and they're always a very good time.
55:49
And you'll be amazed at who you see and who you run into.
55:51
And, and it's just, I, I think that's the dollar, you know, for
55:56
dollar, whatever, that's the, the best you can do at car week.
55:59
But, and to Dan's point, there's always some amazing stuff.
56:02
And I'm always amazed at some of the stuff that like, oh, wow,
56:04
OK, this is auction grade stuff now.
56:07
This is stuff I grew up with, right?
56:08
Or used to see. And, and now it's like, you
56:11
know, at auction, you know, car week, right, how, how things
56:14
have changed. So and then race cars too, they
56:17
always have a lot of race cars and cars with provenance and.
56:19
Yeah, which is fun. But yeah, I think you're right,
56:21
right. It is like an illustration of
56:24
you kind of go like time is passing.
56:27
You're right to see some of the cars where you go.
56:28
Wait a minute, this isn't an auction already.
56:30
I know, I know. Really good settings.
56:34
So if you go to if you go to RM, then that's kind of downtown,
56:39
isn't it in, in Monterey. If you go to Pearl Arrow, then
56:44
that's actually at the Jet Center, which is where the
56:47
Wednesday night party is. So you're seeing part of the
56:50
cars from that collection. I think Meekum's are on a golf
56:54
course and they've got some interesting cars this year and
56:58
I'm missing a couple. Of Gooding I think is, is that
57:01
like a farm or ranch right last? Year Gooding is next to the
57:03
quail, isn't it, Lindsay? It's Gooding is at.
57:09
I'm thinking of bottoms Gooding is is.
57:10
Bottoms next to. Is that Pebble?
57:13
Yeah. We say RM Sotheby's.
57:16
Sotheby's is down in Monterey, OK, OK.
57:19
I think they're the main ones. Hopefully we've not missed
57:21
anyone, but if we have, come sponsor us and we'll make sure
57:24
we represent you correctly. Absolutely.
57:27
And the coolest thing is because you know, we're 2-3 weeks before
57:32
four weeks. I don't know about 3 weeks, I
57:33
guess before the grand, which follows.
57:35
And so it's happened before where someone's gone and bought
57:38
a car at auction during car week and then ended up driving it in
57:43
the grand. That's not how you're supposed
57:44
to do. You're supposed to get the car,
57:46
you know, okayed way before, but it has happened.
57:48
Ask me how I know and, and some amazing stuff has come of it.
57:53
And and if someday, you know, one of us is you know that much
57:57
of A baller or could do that and then show up in.
58:00
Some when when we all have cars that we can drive in the ground.
58:03
Exactly, Exactly. Well, Speaking of markers of
58:06
time, I mean, that time is running out.
58:09
Like tomorrow is today. I'm.
58:11
I'm realizing. Yeah, this great pie in the sky
58:14
dream. You know, I thought my life
58:16
would. Listen, we're going to speak it
58:19
into existence and we're all on the grand racing each other.
58:23
Hey, guys, we're living, we're living good lives.
58:25
Think about the things we're doing.
58:26
We're going to we're doing things like the grand, you know,
58:29
I mean, this is, you know, most people don't get to do this
58:32
stuff And and you know, we're life is good.
58:35
Life is good. In the range genesis.
58:38
Yes, I mean I may just go. Out in the the Land Rovers,
58:42
haven't you, Lindsay? Yeah.
58:43
Yeah, I know. I know the experiences that
58:46
we've gotten to have and when you think about like going to
58:49
the auction previews, one of the things I love is it's a little
58:52
calmer and you can just sort of take your time and you get to
58:55
get up close with the cars. What's interesting is a lot of
58:58
times you see, you know, you do see prospective buyers, they're
59:02
meeting with representatives from the auction houses or you
59:04
see them moving some of the cars.
59:06
Yes. Last year they were moving a car
59:08
that I think was from 1920. Really.
59:11
When do you see one of those in motion and they.
59:13
Move. It to the tent, you know, it's
59:15
unbelievable. And I should add that you don't
59:18
have to necessarily pay. You can register to be a bidder
59:20
and then you don't have to pay a cent.
59:22
In there, that's true too. That too SO.
59:24
Well, and I think a lot of the previews depending on especially
59:27
if you go earlier in the week, I don't know that you have to pay
59:29
to go. OK, right on.
59:30
OK. Yeah, yeah.
59:31
See, this will only be my second.
59:33
You're like a I'm an. Old.
59:36
Man, you're a lifer. Veteran was what I was thinking
59:38
of. Veteran.
59:39
Yeah, veteran. There we go.
59:41
Car week lifer. Yeah.
59:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think sometimes we have to
59:45
stop and realize how good we have it.
59:46
It's easy to get caught up in the crap of the day-to-day, you
59:48
know, I was, that's why I enjoyed doing the show with you
59:51
guys every week, you know, right.
59:52
I can start in one mood and by the the time you know we wrap it
59:55
up, I'm in generally a month. You're in a different mood.
59:58
We don't make any promises that it's better.
1:00:01
Yeah, but it's different than when you start.
1:00:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah. At that car show, everything is
1:00:07
perfect, right? And on that note, should we call
1:00:11
it a show? I think we're right at an hour.
1:00:13
Guys, on that note, always be driving.
1:00:16
I was just going to say we we've saw a lot of good feedback from
1:00:19
last week, so thank. You, everyone.
1:00:21
And it is important if you write us a review, we'll be very
1:00:24
grateful. Yes.
1:00:26
And if you do write us a review and you see us at Carl Week, we
1:00:28
will definitely have stickers for you.
1:00:30
Absolutely. That's the way.
1:00:32
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:34
We really do appreciate all the all the feedback.
1:00:35
It means the world. Sometimes we forget people
1:00:37
actually listen to this thing. And so when we're reminded, it's
1:00:40
kind of nice and. Yeah, yeah, we got a text,
1:00:46
didn't we? The comment this week was my
1:00:48
wife loves the show and she doesn't even like cars.
1:00:51
Yeah, yeah. I think that was from Rich.
1:00:54
That's a compliment of the highest order.
1:00:56
Yeah. It is.
1:00:57
It is so well, let's keep this this thing going.
1:01:01
Keep on trucking and and look forward to next week.
1:01:05
So keep, yeah, keep on driving and keep on listening.
1:01:10
That's right, always be driving. Always be driving.
1:01:14
You think I know the damn tagline?
1:01:15
On your. Tag.
1:01:20
All right. Thanks guys.
1:01:22
Thanks so much. We'll see you next week.