Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #223 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just once answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now the tough nut Princess act doesn't work. It reduces resilience.
- 0:14Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
- 0:17Speaker 1: and dad.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Good day. My name is doctor Justin Colson, the author
- 0:20Speaker 2: of six books about raising happy families and the founder
- 0:24Speaker 2: the owner of the director of Happy Families dot com
- 0:26Speaker 2: dot I you raised your eyebrows when I said that.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Did I just sound a bit too up myself? Is
- 0:30Speaker 2: that the problem? No? No, no, no, okay, Well that's who
- 0:33Speaker 2: I am.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Who are you?
- 0:36Speaker 2: What are you doing in my studio? My wife, Kylie,
- 0:39Speaker 2: missus Happy Families, Mum to our six daughters, is joining
- 0:42Speaker 2: me as always so that we can talk about making
- 0:45Speaker 2: families happier.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Hey, I love the reviews that are coming through at
- 0:48Speaker 3: the moment. We've had another five star review from Jesse
- 0:51Speaker 3: Hill eighty five.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Thanks Jesse Hill.
- 0:54Speaker 3: My favorite podcast.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Oh wow.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I've been listening to this podcast for about six months
- 0:59Speaker 3: and it has been become my favorite. Most of the
- 1:02Speaker 3: topics are equally applicable to kids as they are to adults.
- 1:05Speaker 3: I love that the expert semi regularly shares specific examples
- 1:10Speaker 3: of how he hasn't lived up to his standards. Many
- 1:14Speaker 3: parenting experts admit they also screw up and find it hard,
- 1:17Speaker 3: but he's the only one I've listened to that actually
- 1:19Speaker 3: shares examples of his parenting fails, which is how we
- 1:22Speaker 3: all parent at times, and it makes me feel more
- 1:25Speaker 3: secure that my fifty to seventy percent good parenting is
- 1:28Speaker 3: normal and I am not failing overall. I particularly love
- 1:32Speaker 3: that I Can Do Better episodes and I get marriage
- 1:34Speaker 3: tips out of it as well as Justin and Kylie
- 1:36Speaker 3: are an amazing example of partnership in marriage.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Jesse Hill, you've made our day. Thank you so much
- 1:41Speaker 2: for that five star review. Now the I Can Do
- 1:43Speaker 2: Better episode, I have to be a bit of a
- 1:47Speaker 2: corrector for just a moment. It's called I'll do Better Tomorrow,
- 1:49Speaker 2: and that's what today is all about. This is our
- 1:51Speaker 2: older Better Tomorrow episode where we review the week, and
- 1:54Speaker 2: we did this every Friday. We sort of have a
- 1:56Speaker 2: look at what we did well, what we maybe didn't
- 1:58Speaker 2: do so well, look for love and opportunities to do
- 2:02Speaker 2: better tomorrow as parents, because the great thing about children
- 2:05Speaker 2: is that they always give you an opportunity to do
- 2:07Speaker 2: better tomorrow, like they're so forgiving and we get it
- 2:10Speaker 2: wrong so often. So do you want to go first, missus,
- 2:14Speaker 2: happy families or shall life? I can go for it.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Well.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Last weekend, the kids and I went on a little
- 2:19Speaker 3: road trip on our own. It was just the three
- 2:21Speaker 3: of us in the car. And normally when I'm in
- 2:25Speaker 3: the car, I kind of just sewn out. I kind
- 2:28Speaker 3: of get in my own little world, whether it's been
- 2:30Speaker 3: listening to music or of late listening to some podcasts,
- 2:33Speaker 3: and I kind of just, you know, let the kids
- 2:35Speaker 3: do their own thing. But we had about ten hours
- 2:38Speaker 3: in the car. It was a long, long drive, and
- 2:40Speaker 3: I wanted to find ways that I could connect. And
- 2:43Speaker 3: I've watched you over the years connect with the kids,
- 2:46Speaker 3: and you'll often say to me, you know, what did
- 2:47Speaker 3: you talk with the kids about in the car, And
- 2:48Speaker 3: I'm kind of like nothing, I've been doing a little
- 2:53Speaker 3: bit of quiet time before it all gets crazy. Sure,
- 2:56Speaker 3: but I decided that I would I needed a bit
- 2:59Speaker 3: of help. So we have these little conversation starters that
- 3:02Speaker 3: have been sitting in the games draw for I don't
- 3:05Speaker 3: know how long, and I've never used them.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I had the little box called the Art of Conversations. Yes,
- 3:09Speaker 2: really you've used them?
- 3:11Speaker 1: I have?
- 3:11Speaker 2: Oh wow, how did that go?
- 3:13Speaker 3: It was fantastic, so our ten year old Lily, she
- 3:17Speaker 3: I said to her, and there was a bit of
- 3:18Speaker 3: a lull in conversation. I said, Hey, I've got these
- 3:20Speaker 3: little cards. Do you want to have a game with me?
- 3:25Speaker 3: And she happily opened the box. She loved asking all
- 3:28Speaker 3: the questions. Wasn't so excited about answering them. She just
- 3:31Speaker 3: wanted me to answer them. And I think she just
- 3:33Speaker 3: loves getting to know.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Yeah. I was going to say, that's the whole thing
- 3:38Speaker 2: is children love it when we go into their world,
- 3:40Speaker 2: when we enter their world and become sort of childlike.
- 3:43Speaker 2: But every now and again they love to step into
- 3:45Speaker 2: our world and understand what the world is from our
- 3:48Speaker 2: perspective or what it was like when we were growing up.
- 3:50Speaker 2: They love stories.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what she really appreciated, the stories, where
- 3:55Speaker 3: you know, she kind of asked me, what was something
- 3:58Speaker 3: that I did that was really naughty when I was little?
- 4:01Speaker 2: What did you say?
- 4:02Speaker 3: I can't tell you on the podcast.
- 4:03Speaker 2: I want to know, you have to tell me what
- 4:05Speaker 2: did you do that was not you were little it's okay.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't so much naughty. It was that I
- 4:10Speaker 3: didn't own up to it. I was about seven or eight,
- 4:14Speaker 3: and me and my little sister had walked home from
- 4:16Speaker 3: school and we had we had to let ourselves in,
- 4:18Speaker 3: but I had forgotten my key to let myself in
- 4:22Speaker 3: the front door. And where we lived at the time,
- 4:25Speaker 3: the veranda was level with my dad's shed, and if
- 4:29Speaker 3: I stood on the shed, I could actually climb through
- 4:32Speaker 3: my bedroom window. And my bedroom window was open, but
- 4:35Speaker 3: it wasn't open enough. And it was those windows where
- 4:38Speaker 3: you push out so they kind of come out at
- 4:40Speaker 3: an angle. And with my young, immature mind, I didn't
- 4:46Speaker 3: realize that if I pulled on the corner of a
- 4:48Speaker 3: window like that, that it would actually shatter the window.
- 4:51Speaker 2: You broke the window.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I totally broke, and you didn't it. I didn't tell
- 4:55Speaker 3: my mom and dad that I did, and.
- 4:56Speaker 2: You told Lily that I did. What did she say?
- 4:59Speaker 2: She couldn't believe you're a rebel. You were a seven
- 5:03Speaker 2: year old, eight year old delinquent breaking into houses, smashing windows.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I can't believe that I married you.
- 5:07Speaker 3: This is I did tell my mum and dad. Eventually
- 5:11Speaker 3: I was well and truly married, and probably on the phone.
- 5:13Speaker 3: I probably did it on the phone when you told
- 5:14Speaker 3: them like.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Twenty years later, that's right, crack up. So that's your
- 5:19Speaker 2: old do better tomorrow. Just the value of having really
- 5:22Speaker 2: great conversations.
- 5:25Speaker 3: That was part of it. The second part was that obviously,
- 5:27Speaker 3: with ten hours, I wasn't going to talk conversation the
- 5:30Speaker 3: whole time, and I had to come up with something
- 5:32Speaker 3: else a little bit more creative. It is kind of draining,
- 5:34Speaker 3: isn't it, especially when I have to tell her all
- 5:37Speaker 3: the bad things about me. So I did something that
- 5:42Speaker 3: I've never done before, and partly because we were a
- 5:44Speaker 3: new territory and so we were seeing things we had
- 5:46Speaker 3: never seen before on our drive, and so I said.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Why don't we do car bingo car bingo?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Yeah, So I got her to draw up a grid
- 5:54Speaker 3: five by five, oh, which meant that she had to
- 5:56Speaker 3: come up with twenty five things. So as we were driving, genius,
- 6:01Speaker 3: I just called out twenty five things. You know, a
- 6:03Speaker 3: red car, a white car, a bridge, a tree standing
- 6:06Speaker 3: on its own, a.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Horse, an aeroplane. You should have put an aeroplane down,
- 6:09Speaker 2: because there's no aeroplanes in the sky. Atline with COVID.
- 6:12Speaker 3: That would have been smart.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been a long game.
- 6:15Speaker 3: A letterbox, a house, a driveway, you know, just different
- 6:18Speaker 3: things that you'd see. Well, we were in the country,
- 6:19Speaker 3: so there was there were some things on the list
- 6:21Speaker 3: that were going to be really hard to find. But
- 6:24Speaker 3: what was so great was it got us both kind
- 6:26Speaker 3: of focused on seeing things and we saw things that
- 6:28Speaker 3: we would never have seen. And what I noticed was
- 6:30Speaker 3: on the trip home when we actually played the game,
- 6:34Speaker 3: we literally did we were like, have we been this
- 6:37Speaker 3: way before? Because we saw things that we just had
- 6:39Speaker 3: been oblivious to. On the way out, we saw a
- 6:44Speaker 3: flock of EMUs, wild EMUs. There was about twenty five
- 6:48Speaker 3: of them and they literally were just in a pack.
- 6:51Speaker 3: I don't know what you call what.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what a flock of
- 6:54Speaker 2: a flock. I don't know. I'm going to google it
- 6:57Speaker 2: right now while you can each other story.
- 6:59Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. I've never seen EMUs out in the
- 7:02Speaker 3: wild before.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yeah, so a group of EMUs is called a mob.
- 7:06Speaker 2: I can tell you that because I'm sure that in
- 7:09Speaker 2: one of those Australian one of those Aussie trivia games
- 7:11Speaker 2: that we played what was There was an Aussie trivia
- 7:14Speaker 2: game when we were kids with an It came in
- 7:16Speaker 2: an eski. I think it was called oz Trivia or
- 7:18Speaker 2: something like that, and I'm sure it was one of
- 7:19Speaker 2: the questions there. Anyway, I love that I'll do better
- 7:22Speaker 2: tomorrow just inviting the kids into your world with great
- 7:24Speaker 2: conversations and having those conversations starters can really do that,
- 7:28Speaker 2: and what a great story. We're gonna have a look
- 7:30Speaker 2: at what I can do better tomorrow.
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- 7:49Speaker 3: The Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time poor
- 7:52Speaker 3: parent who just wants answers now, And today we're talking
- 7:55Speaker 3: about the insights that we've had as parents this week.
- 7:58Speaker 2: So my one's actually built out over a couple of weeks,
- 8:01Speaker 2: but this week has been the week where the penny
- 8:03Speaker 2: dropped and I just went, ah, yes, this, I'm nailing
- 8:06Speaker 2: it because I completely failed it at the beginning. Now,
- 8:10Speaker 2: before I share what's happened, I want to highlight that
- 8:14Speaker 2: it's very easy to come across insensitive when you're having
- 8:16Speaker 2: a conversation like this, But I want to just reassure
- 8:19Speaker 2: everybody that we've been very very sensitive about it in
- 8:22Speaker 2: our home, very careful about it. So basically, a few
- 8:25Speaker 2: weeks ago, if you've been listening to the podcast for
- 8:27Speaker 2: a while, you may know, one of our kids came
- 8:29Speaker 2: to me and said, Dad, Dad, I'm really unfit and
- 8:32Speaker 2: I'm really out of shape, and I want to do
- 8:34Speaker 2: something about it, and school cross country is coming up,
- 8:37Speaker 2: and so can you help me to start running? So
- 8:40Speaker 2: I changed all my morning plans. I put off my
- 8:42Speaker 2: bike rides and thought, I'm being a good dad here,
- 8:44Speaker 2: I'm being noble. I'm doing the right thing. I'm going
- 8:47Speaker 2: to run with my daughter every morning and help her
- 8:48Speaker 2: to get her fitness back, because I'm a bit of
- 8:50Speaker 2: a fitness guy, right, I mean, I really really value
- 8:53Speaker 2: good health. And we started our run on the first morning.
- 8:57Speaker 2: She was so enthusiastic. I mean she was running really
- 9:00Speaker 2: really well for about seventy meters and that was it,
- 9:04Speaker 2: and we were running downhill, but she couldn't run any further.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I'm not laughing, I'm not laughing.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I bet no, because this is a little bit of daja,
- 9:12Speaker 3: but it wasn't running. But I remember my first ride
- 9:15Speaker 3: with you.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Oh you're going to make me look really bad now,
- 9:18Speaker 2: aren't you.
- 9:20Speaker 3: And you just you kind of looked at me and
- 9:24Speaker 3: here I was.
- 9:25Speaker 1: I was.
- 9:26Speaker 3: My heart rate I think was through the roof. I
- 9:29Speaker 3: felt like I was going to have a heart attack.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I was working so hard, and you kind of looked
- 9:32Speaker 3: over at me and you said, do you think that
- 9:34Speaker 3: you could ride just a little bit faster?
- 9:36Speaker 2: Quick? Dangine. To just finish this story, After we'd been
- 9:40Speaker 2: for a handful of rides and your fitness was starting
- 9:42Speaker 2: to improve, we went for a ride. We were living
- 9:44Speaker 2: in the Illawarra in the Woollongong region at the time,
- 9:48Speaker 2: and we went for a ride from our house in
- 9:50Speaker 2: for people who know the area, from a house in
- 9:52Speaker 2: Victory down to Dapto and out the back there. And
- 9:54Speaker 2: it was it was a cold morning. It was the
- 9:56Speaker 2: middle of winter, and I'd given you all of my
- 9:58Speaker 2: warm cycling gears so that you stayed nice and warm.
- 10:01Speaker 2: But what I didn't realize is that you were already
- 10:03Speaker 2: going to be warm because you were working hard. And
- 10:06Speaker 2: when I ride next to you. I'm literally my heart
- 10:09Speaker 2: rate is as low as it is, if not lower,
- 10:12Speaker 2: when I'm walking, like it was that low. And so
- 10:14Speaker 2: it was literally one degree celsius it was.
- 10:17Speaker 3: And when we went down into the valley, I felt
- 10:20Speaker 3: like we just walked into a freezer. It was so cold.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And I'm wearing no gloves, no arm warmers and just
- 10:27Speaker 2: lycra shorts and alycra jersey, and it was so cold.
- 10:30Speaker 2: I was always crying. And you you've got the jacket
- 10:32Speaker 2: on the gloves and the beanie and you've got the
- 10:34Speaker 2: long legs and you are toasty warm, and you are
- 10:37Speaker 2: working so hard, and here's me not working out at all,
- 10:40Speaker 2: and it's just like it was so painful that I
- 10:43Speaker 2: thought I if I could have cried, I would have,
- 10:45Speaker 2: but my eyes were turning into icicles. Anyway, that's a
- 10:49Speaker 2: long tangent. Let's come back to. So I'm running with
- 10:52Speaker 2: our little one, and yeah, she runs about seventy meters
- 10:55Speaker 2: downhill and then she's puffed out and she can't run anymore.
- 10:58Speaker 2: And I've kind of looked at it. We were only
- 10:59Speaker 2: running a one hundred meters to the park and back.
- 11:01Speaker 2: It was going to be a one and a half
- 11:02Speaker 2: k run, and I'm like, what do you mean? And
- 11:05Speaker 2: I actually got really cross with her. I'm like, you've
- 11:07Speaker 2: made me cancel my bike rides. You've made me miss
- 11:09Speaker 2: out on my fitness experiences that I have so that
- 11:11Speaker 2: I can spend this good quality time with you, daddy
- 11:14Speaker 2: daughter time, helping you to get fit. And you're telling
- 11:17Speaker 2: me that you're not prepared to run more than seventy meters,
- 11:19Speaker 2: And I actually I got really impatient. I said, you're
- 11:22Speaker 2: going to run. We're going to make you this time count.
- 11:24Speaker 2: This is going to be high caller like high quality time.
- 11:28Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds so ridiculous, but in the moment,
- 11:30Speaker 2: you know, you're kind of emotional about it. You're like,
- 11:32Speaker 2: what's going on here? Anyway?
- 11:34Speaker 3: How good was the quality? It didn't go very well,
- 11:39Speaker 3: feel the serenity.
- 11:40Speaker 2: We didn't even make it to the park. We stopped
- 11:42Speaker 2: about three hundred meters shy four hundred meters shy of
- 11:44Speaker 2: the park, turned around. I tried to get it to
- 11:46Speaker 2: run home. She wouldn't do it. We ended up walking.
- 11:48Speaker 2: And what I thought in my mind was, well, if
- 11:51Speaker 2: we're walking, I might as well make this just some
- 11:52Speaker 2: nice daddy daughter time. But what came out of my
- 11:56Speaker 2: mouth was, cheez, you're unfit. You've really got We've got
- 12:00Speaker 2: a lot of work to do. If you're going to
- 12:01Speaker 2: if you think this is what our morning is going
- 12:02Speaker 2: to be like, you've got another thing like I was.
- 12:05Speaker 2: I started to read it the Riot Act. I couldn't
- 12:07Speaker 2: believe that I was and I know better. So anyway,
- 12:11Speaker 2: the next day she was ready to go again, but
- 12:13Speaker 2: she was pretty reluctant. She was really scared about what
- 12:16Speaker 2: might happen. And I apologized to her. I said, it's
- 12:18Speaker 2: going to be much better today. I've got a plan.
- 12:20Speaker 2: We're going to run from this telegraph pole of that
- 12:22Speaker 2: telegraph pole, so it's just literally one pole, and then
- 12:26Speaker 2: we'll walk to the next one, and then we'll run
- 12:27Speaker 2: to the next one.
- 12:28Speaker 3: So what's that about? Twenty meters between the telegraph.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Poles are about sort of eighty to one hundred meters
- 12:32Speaker 2: apart or something like that. I reckon like they're reasonable distance.
- 12:35Speaker 2: And for the next couple of weeks she's been doing that.
- 12:38Speaker 2: We've been running one, walking one and we had this
- 12:42Speaker 2: really awesome experience on our run earlier this week where
- 12:46Speaker 2: she looked at me and she said Dad, I'm going
- 12:49Speaker 2: to start doing two poles. And then when we got
- 12:52Speaker 2: to the base of a hill. There's one hill that
- 12:53Speaker 2: we run up. It's probably about four telegraph poles long, and.
- 12:57Speaker 3: She's a tough one though. It's got a good kick.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty tough hill. And she said, I'm
- 13:01Speaker 2: going to run the whole hill, and she did, and
- 13:03Speaker 2: she was so stoked. And then just in the last
- 13:06Speaker 2: couple of days, she was running around the house with
- 13:08Speaker 2: one of her sisters and as she ran past me,
- 13:09Speaker 2: she stopped and she said, Dad, I feel so much
- 13:12Speaker 2: more agile now that I'm running with you every day
- 13:14Speaker 2: or every other day or whatever it is that we're doing.
- 13:16Speaker 2: And I just thought that could have been catastrophic, Like
- 13:19Speaker 2: I nearly blew it. Her fitness is really still quite low,
- 13:23Speaker 2: but over the course of maybe three or four weeks,
- 13:25Speaker 2: as we've been consistent with it, what's happened is she's
- 13:28Speaker 2: got a newfound confidence and she's having these tiny wins
- 13:33Speaker 2: and that little bit of progress, daily progress, having regular wins. Psychologically,
- 13:38Speaker 2: the research tells us this is one of the best
- 13:40Speaker 2: ways that we can build a sense of confidence and
- 13:42Speaker 2: mastery and resilience and confidence that the tough Up Princess
- 13:46Speaker 2: Act doesn't work. It reduces resilience. But what we've done
- 13:50Speaker 2: is we've had little win and then a little win,
- 13:52Speaker 2: and each day she's motivated to push herself a bit further.
- 13:55Speaker 3: And well, she's so motivated, she's the one who's waking
- 13:57Speaker 3: us up. She's literally knocking on our door at five
- 14:00Speaker 3: point thirty.
- 14:02Speaker 2: We don't leave for fifteen minutes. What are you doing anyway?
- 14:06Speaker 2: That's that's why I'll do better tomorrow, because I mean,
- 14:08Speaker 2: I really, if I'm honest, I really blew it. But
- 14:11Speaker 2: I feel like we were able to rescue it, the
- 14:15Speaker 2: two of us. We stayed true to the course and
- 14:17Speaker 2: we we're having some really great outcomes now. So I'm
- 14:21Speaker 2: feeling like we're doing better tomorrow and it's something that
- 14:24Speaker 2: we can take with us moving forward as well. Well.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that story. That was really cool. I'm
- 14:29Speaker 3: loving watching as our daughter just you know, gets this
- 14:32Speaker 3: new found confidence. It's so great to see. If you're
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