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The Phenomena of Death · Urantia Radio

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  Welcome to another edition of the Rancher Radio Podcast.
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  My name is Jim Watkins. I'm a long time reader and
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  student of the 5th epical Revelation, and I love talking
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  about it. There's so much to delve into in
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  this super terrific philosophical religious texts
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  and I appreciate you stopping by.
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  And today we're going to be talking about the phenomena of
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  death as it is outlined in Paper 112 of the Urantia Book.
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  So that should be very interesting.
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  Plus some anecdotes on current events and some new projects.
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  All exciting stuff right here on the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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  Welcome to another edition of the Urantia Radio podcast.
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  It's good to have you here and you are enjoying the music of
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  David Dinger and he has a great selection of music.
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  David R Dinger, to be specific, from Norfolk, VA, long time
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  student of the Urantia book as well.
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  And I consider him a friend. We've talked a few times.
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  We talked a lot about what's going on in the world.
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  Boy, it's in fact all of my Urantia friends.
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  We all are gravely concerned about what's happening in the
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  world today. And there's a lot, there's a big
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  battle, I think, going on from historical terms between and I'm
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  sure that our unseen friends take note that there is a real
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  ideological struggle going on between Islam and Christianity.
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  Now my simple observation, or a passing observation for me is
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  that Christianity in the West has lost its savour.
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  Maybe not among Christians. Christianity seems to be making
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  a comeback because I think the new generation has seen what a
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  world without Christianity looks like and they don't like it too
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  much. On the other hand, the fervor of
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  Islamic faith is that they've got a global intifada underway,
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  according to their religious leaders, at least the Shias.
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  And so we don't know the unpredictability of that, But we
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  do see from a anthropological scale how the migration has
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  occurred. Now, you know, the Urantia book
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  speaks a lot to how the different races and cultures
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  have migrated since the beginning of time.
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  And we're definitely seeing a migration shift.
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  Is it particularly in Europe, Western Europe?
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  And it's having an effect, a cultural effect.
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  Look what's happening in England.
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  And it's almost like it's filling in a vacuum.
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  I'm just making an observation that when Christianity retreats
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  and then you have this other more aggressive religion such as
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  Islam, it's naturally going to fill that void.
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  And if it wasn't for the incessant wars, much of them
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  being propped up these days by forces that we can only imagine
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  you've we forget that many of these migrants are leaving the
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  Middle East because of war. Look at Syria a few years back,
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  look at Gaza. I mean, those people have to go
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  somewhere. And I think that sort of is the
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  prelude to what we're it's not just all of a sudden we had a
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  migrant problem. There were forces that created
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  that migration. And it's definitely having an
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  effect. But there's also a lot of anger
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  in the world More day more now than before because of social
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  media. I am convinced that
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  sociologically it was probably too much for people to handle.
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  We're essentially reading each other's minds at this point
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  because everybody's online expressing their opinions about
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  a a million different things. So that's unsettling to the
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  human condition. It's it's like an episode of the
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  Twilight Zone, right? All of a sudden, every, you can
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  hear everybody's thoughts. And sometimes those thoughts,
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  not only are they fleeting and temperamental, but they're also
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  very harming. I hate to say that I don't want
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  to sound like Big Brother or anything, but do we really all
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  need to be on social media all the time telling everybody
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  exactly how we feel? Because again, feelings change.
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  What you think today or what you thought today can be changed
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  with new data, new facts. But in the meantime, you're on
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  record is stating a position. So that's one of the reasons I
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  stay away from Facebook. I I've never liked Facebook.
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  To me, Facebook was like peering into somebody's home when
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  they're not looking. And I don't want to know that
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  much. I mean, TMI, too much
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  information, right? Secularism also has been a main
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  concern of mine just because without the absence of of God,
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  which the Urantia book asserts a million times, it's a good idea.
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  They say that you think you can live without God, but at the end
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  of the day, without God, nothing else really holds itself
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  together. God is the cohesive cosmic glue
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  and it's the it's the purpose. It's the purpose for everything.
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  You know, I often explain the Urantia books interpretation of
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  deity in a very simple way. At at some point, some
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  philosophical point of time, God made the decision that he, it
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  was not enough to be an existential deity of perfection.
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  It wasn't enough. It had to be experiential.
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  Everything has to be experienced.
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  And so the Supreme Being emerges from that experiential God of
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  experience with the existential God of perfection.
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  And, and we all get to participate in that, if we
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  choose to participate in it. That's what the point of the
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  spirit fragment is in his image points to that fragment spirit
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  which the Urantia book calls the thought Adjuster.
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  And the thought adjuster is that part of God that resides in
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  every human mind correction, every normal human mind.
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  And it gets us from here to there, you know, and the
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  challenge for a lot of people when they talk about the
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  afterlife, which is very heavy subject to begin with, is that
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  no one really knows for sure what happens.
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  We think we know what happens. We hope we know what happens.
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  Many of us don't even believe it's possible that there could
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  be some sort of people are more inclined to believe more in
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  reincarnation than resurrection. And, and a lot of people discard
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  the whole notion as being nothing more than a myth.
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  And that's what we're going to kind of talk about here today in
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  the phenomena of death in the Urantia book, it's Paper 112.
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  And they're kind of giving us some insight as to what
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  constitutes personality. That personality is, is the
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  Organism reacting to its environment.
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  That's what constitutes living. We are we are organisms and we
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  are reacting to the external stimuli as we move through space
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  and time. But the one unchanging
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  underlying principle is the personality, the cohesive person
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  personality that we all possess. We are all each individual
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  unique, non totalable personalities.
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  We are only and from God's perspective, we are only in this
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  relationship from a qualitative standpoint because he is a
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  personality. And so in the phenomena of
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  death, it, it covers a lot of areas.
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  So I want to delve right into it because it is important,
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  especially within the context of how people feel today.
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  People do feel lonelier than they've ever been.
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  According to all the statistics, mental illness is is rising.
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  It's off the charts, there's no question about that.
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  We've talked about that. So maybe this will give us some
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  insight as to how we can tackle some of these issues both
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  personally and collectively. So let's examine what the
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  phenomena of death really is. And in we'll pick up from
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  Section 3 the phenomenon of death.
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  It says your answers generally recognize only one kind of
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  death, the physical cessation of life energies.
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  But concerning personality survival, there are really three
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  kinds. Number one is spiritual, the
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  soul death. If and when mortal man has
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  finally rejected survival, when he has been pronounced
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  spiritually insolvent, morantually bankrupt in the
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  conjoint opinion of the adjuster and the surviving Seraphim, When
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  such coordinate advice has been recorded on Universa, and after
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  the sensors and the reflective associates have verified these
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  findings. Thereupon do the rulers of
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  Orvington order the immediate release of the indwelling
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  monitor the fragment. But this release of the adjuster
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  in no way affects the duties of the personal or group seraphim
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  concerned with that ingestor abandoned individual.
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  So even after the spirit fragment has left that mortal,
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  the, the, the group Seraphim, they were concerned with his or
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  her livelihood is still there. The the human doesn't get
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  abandoned. But this kind of death, it says,
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  is final in its significance. Irrespective of the temporary
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  continuation of the living energies of the physical and
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  mind mechanisms. From the cosmic standpoint, the
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  mortal is already dead. The continuing life merely
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  indicates the persistence of the material momentum of cosmic
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  energies. So I'll ask you a very
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  challenging and important question.
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  Do you know someone who was already spiritually dead?
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  Do you know someone in your life?
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  I know a lot of atheists in my life.
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  Some of them, I think they're just ignorant.
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  Especially young people, a young atheist, there's no way that a a
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  young person can make any evaluation during that early
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  state of thinking and thought process.
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  It's sometimes it's just easier to not to deny because it feels
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  liberating. But the older people, the people
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  who who don't believe in God and they're actually antagonistic
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  against religion. I sometimes wonder if if many of
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  these people are actually already dead, at least
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  spiritually. And, and I know that, you know,
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  people that are absolutely antagonistic towards
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  Christianity, towards faith. Bill Maher might be a good
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  example of that. Certainly some of these
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  atheists, what is it, Hutchins? Others like that, that they're
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  so absolute in their fervor that there is no afterlife.
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  I wondered, are they constitutionally have the
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  Orvington rulers ruled on them yet, or did they give them the
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  chance of their life until their last breath?
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  So the second kind of death is intellectual death, and it
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  describes it as follows. When the vital circuits of
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  higher adjutant ministry are disrupted through the
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  aberrations of intellect or because of the partial
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  destruction of the mechanism of the brain, and if these
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  conditions pass a certain critical point of
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  irreparability, the indwelling adjuster is immediately released
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  to depart. For Divinnington on the Universe
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  Records, a mortal personality is considered to have met with
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  death whenever the essential mind circuits of human will
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  action have been destroyed. And again, this is death
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  irrespective of the continuing function of of the living
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  mechanism of the physical body. The body minus the volitional
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  mind is no longer human, but according to the prior choosing
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  of the human will, the soul of such an individual may survive.
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  So we can think of all kinds of examples, people with
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  Alzheimer's, advanced stage dementia or Alzheimer's, people
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  who are who get into an accident, some sort of physical
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  accident where they injure their brain, people who are on life
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  support perhaps. So those are just varying
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  degrees of people that have met with intellectual death.
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  Although you could argue that intellectual death also has to
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  do with when a personality no longer has what they call will
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  to action. And that might be somebody
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  defined as either very sub intelligent living in the worst
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  possible of circumstances, or perhaps they're so outright evil
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  that they don't even have control over their own actions
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  anymore and they're just simply driven by animal instinct.
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  So I think that could qualify as someone who has died
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  intellectually. And then there's three, which is
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  the most common, the body and mind.
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  Death, it writes. When death overtakes a human
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  being. The adjuster remains in the
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  citadel of the mind until it ceases to function as an
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  intellectual, intelligent mechanism, about the time that
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  the measurable brain energies cease their rhythmic vital
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  pulsations. Following this disillusion, the
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  adjuster takes leave of the vanishing mind just as
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  unceremoniously as entry was made years before.
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  And this adjuster, the spirit fragment proceeds to
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  Divinnington by way of U versa, Divinington.
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  Where is Divinington? Is it?
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  Is it in the Havona? Well, maybe we could look that
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  up. But Divinington is where the
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  fragments of the of the spirit of the Father reside.
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  That is their home until their partner, their sole partner is
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  resurrected on the Marancha or resurrection worlds, the mansion
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  worlds. And it's at that point that the
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  adjuster is reunited with its partner, its personality
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  partner, and the the ascendant journey continues on.
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  And that would be the explanation of how the soul
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  survives physical death. It concludes after the death of
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  material body, returns to the elemental world from which it
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  was derived from dust to dust, right, But two non material
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  factors of surviving personality persist.
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  The pre existent thought Adjuster, with the memory
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  transcriptions of the mortal career, proceeds to Divinington,
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  and there also remains in the custody of the Destiny Guardian
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  the immortal Morontia soul of the deceased human.
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  These phases and forms of soul, these once kinetic but now
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  static formulas of identity, are essential to re personalization
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  on the Marancha worlds, and it is the reunion of the Adjuster
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  and the soul that reassembles the surviving personality that
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  re conscious sizes you at the time of the Marancha awakening.
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  For those who do not have personal seraphic guardians, the
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  group custodians faithfully and efficiently perform the same
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  service of identity safekeeping and personality resurrection.
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  The seraphim are indispensable to the reassembly of the
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  personality upon death. The thought of gesture
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  temporarily loses personality but not identity.
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  The human subject temporarily loses identity, but not
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  personality on the mansion worlds.
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  Both reunite in eternal manifestation.
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  Never does a departed thought adjuster return to Earth as the
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  being of former indwelling. Never is personality manifested
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  without the human will, and never does a disadjusted human
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  being after death manifest active identity or in any manner
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  to establish communication with the living beings of Earth.
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  Such a disadjusted souls or such disadjusted souls are wholly and
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  absolutely unconscious during the long or short sleep of
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  death. There can be no exhibition of
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  any sort of personality or ability to engage in
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  communications with other other personalities until after
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  completion of survival. Those who go to the mansion
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  worlds are never permitted to send messages back to their
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  loved ones. It is the policy throughout the
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  universes to forbid such communications during the period
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  of a current dispensation. Now I'm reminded by Byron
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  Belezza's book. I believe it's the the book he
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  wrote about the soul and he refers to a lot of near death
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  experiences, Ndas, and there's some great observations that he
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  makes. And I'm wondering if perhaps
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  when certain humans, when they have that near death experience,
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  they haven't died and that their body is still functioning and
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  their thought adjuster hasn't left their body.
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  And it might be the reflectivity of the thought adjuster who's
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  more easily communicating with its parent or subject host to
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  communicate glimpses of the, the mansion life or the Marancha
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  life. So that's worth a, a real good
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  discussion. But wow, so much is displayed.
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  I mean, this, this one paper explains the whole process of
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  what happens when you die and the different kinds of death,
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  which is something that a lot of religious texts do not touch.
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  And I, and I, and I also like the fact that this, this section
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  or this paper clarifies that we don't talk to ghosts.
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  This one of the reasons why the Urantia book has the credibility
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  it has because it, it definitively explains the
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  process of dying, but it also affirms that transactional
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  communications of a sort between previously lived human beings
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  can somehow communicate, you know, and through seances or
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  channeling. And this book says, no, that's
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  not, that's not allowed. So I think that's an interesting
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  aspect of this book. So that's this paper 112.
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  And it's, it's a pretty, pretty good read, I would say.
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  And I think we should leave it there.
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  I I do want to, as we play a little bit more music here with
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  my good friend David Dinger. I do we have it.
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  Are we going to play it? Yeah, Let's let's go out with
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  this. I've taken some liberties here
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  and I'm, I may put this up on the podcast.
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  So you might want to have to check back on this.
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  But I've taken the shroud of turn images of Christ just to
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  show what technology allows us to do now.
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  And I've taken the image from the shroud of turn that was
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  digitized back around, I don't know, 2015 or something.
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  And I've created a, a, a photograph through artificial
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  intelligence. And it looks, if it's not
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  Jesus's face, it sure looks like someone who would look like
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  Jesus, if that makes any sense. And I, and I'm taking the
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  liberty of taking certain phrases out of the Arantia book,
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  some of them that are also recognizable as being part of
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  like scripture and, and turning them into these two-minute
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  pieces where it actually looks as if Jesus is speaking his own
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  words. And I'm, I'm hoping that that
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  could be something that could go viral because I think right now
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  the message of Jesus is really important.
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  Don't you? I mean, right now the, the West
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  needs a, a booster shot of, you know, Jesus's teachings.
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  And, and there's so many great ones.
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  And I think we certainly me could do a better job of getting
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  those teachings out there and technology can aid us in that.
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  And I, and I think that's, that's a good thing.
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  So be on the lookout for some of these Jesus things on getter and
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  Instagram. It's pretty remarkable one
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  there's I have to watch it 10 times and it just blows me away.
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  But we'll continue on and we're hoping to get a guest on next
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  week who is going to talk about Urantiopaedia.
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  And I've talked about that a little bit.
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  It's a great website. It's inspired by Dwayne Fogg's
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  perrimony. We'll talk about that in the
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  next edition of the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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  And of course, if you want to reach out to me
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  urantiabookradio@gmail.com. Thank you again and God bless.