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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, December 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Touchdown Jacksonville, Marky's leg.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hundred yards from the Jaguars. Jaguars. Did you know, Jack,
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Jack Warris, did you go? Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex Stepstra,
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  Speaker 1: John Oha Ashley. Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. I'll
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: tell you boy, the news in the fucking room. Ain't
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: no game over, ain't no season over. So he said,
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  Speaker 1: let nobody with total team total, Hey, Jack, not three
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  Speaker 1: DAGs on me? What do three? Victory? Tuesday feeling Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: come back with their fifth win of the sea season
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  Speaker 1: from Oakland. It isn't gonna change a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: It really won't change the storyline much going forward, but
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  Speaker 1: at the very least, it lay in the mood this week,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a good thing to talk about. Snapping a
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  Speaker 1: five game losing streak, a much needed wind and the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars get it where none of us I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen. Well. And so my lasting memory of
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  Speaker 1: this is if you've never been to Oakland and and
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  Speaker 1: the Oakland Alameda County College, and it's the post apocalyptic scene, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's escape from New York Mad Max Spury Road, and
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  Speaker 1: we choose your movie. It's that plash hasn't heard of hate.
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  Speaker 1: I realized that. Well that's why I said choose yours
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  Speaker 1: because you might know. Um. So beginning of the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: they bring on the you know, the safe security team,
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  Speaker 1: right the the Weekend Warriors police officers. Uh. And then
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  Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter, inside of that ring they
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  Speaker 1: were about six ft apart, they bring in Oakland Alameda
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  Speaker 1: County police and some California State Highway patrolment and they
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: start with a second ring of people and the laser
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  Speaker 1: pointers are going off, and of course folks heard that
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  Speaker 1: when the officials stopped the game and it's getting dark,
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  Speaker 1: and all I can think and you'll appreciate this because
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  Speaker 1: you know the way that the Raiders played the game
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  Speaker 1: and all the great players that played in that colosseum,
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars come back with the comeback. What a scene.
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  Speaker 1: And then we try to go down on the field
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  Speaker 1: afterwards and do our our rapid recaps, right, the folks,
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  Speaker 1: the field is closed, right because we knew what was
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  Speaker 1: going on out there. Um. The thing that made it
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  Speaker 1: great was the scene. Winning was good for this football team,
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  Speaker 1: but the scene around it made it one I'll never forget. Yeah,
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: it's as we talked on Zone Blitt's ashe and I yesterday. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you cover what twenty games a year, accounting preseason, So
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: if you start multiplying that by the number of years
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  Speaker 1: we've been coming the league, it gets to a number
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  Speaker 1: that neither of us want to think about. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of them blend together. That one won't playing
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  Speaker 1: together though, And yeah, I'm not sure any game out
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  Speaker 1: there that I've ever covered is really blended together, but
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  Speaker 1: that one certainly. Uh. Between the the beautiful wafts in
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  Speaker 1: the press body, it was a cloud. It was like
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  Speaker 1: it was unbelieved. It was like an avalanche of smoke, right,
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  Speaker 1: a tidal wave of smoke of weed that came out
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  Speaker 1: over the field. If I haven't seen much like it.
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  Speaker 1: And I went in the concerts and the coliseum in
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  Speaker 1: the seventh and it was bad. It was a different place.
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  Speaker 1: It was bizarre. Um. One thing that I don't watch
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  Speaker 1: the post game locker room scenes as much as you
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  Speaker 1: guys do, because you guys are in there when they're
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  Speaker 1: cutting them. There's a joy, a togetherness, a focus. I
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  Speaker 1: don't wanna call it rare for a team losing. But
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  Speaker 1: you can't fake what we saw at the top of
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  Speaker 1: this when Conley minshew. Those guys, um, they're into and
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  Speaker 1: we always talk about quit and all that. I've been
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  Speaker 1: around losing team. We've been around losing teams here. Unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: you don't always see that on a week sixteen. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys here here caring. They're still together.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a good locker room and all that stuff. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but your five and not Yeah, and that's not even
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  Speaker 1: the big news. Yeah, far from it, far far from it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into big things. Big thing one
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  Speaker 1: nfl P A big news from yesterday afternoon as the
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  Speaker 1: nfl PA came out with a statement saying the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: we're not allowed to fight an player from missing out
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  Speaker 1: on mandatory treatment that was not allowed to be mandatory.
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  Speaker 1: The Players Association says it was one of the many
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  Speaker 1: grievances we had to file against the Jags. To say
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  Speaker 1: this is a bad look is an understatement. We will
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  Speaker 1: dive much deeper into this and what this means for
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars going forward, but let's get into this game,
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  Speaker 1: big thing to a much different outcome would change the
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  Speaker 1: entire mood of the week. What it means going forward,
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  Speaker 1: not much, but at least it's a pleasant place here
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. This week, these games were like the most fun.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they sucked for like that, like you feel
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  Speaker 1: like crap, but then you just keep grinding and find
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  Speaker 1: a way. Um. You know, these guys, there's nobody'd rather
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  Speaker 1: do it with and them, no one was more hyped
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  Speaker 1: up than that man Gardner Minshew after the win, Big
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  Speaker 1: Thing three defensive game ball. As much as we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about Minshew and Chris Connelly for his two touchdowns, we
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  Speaker 1: have to credit the defense defensive line four sacks second half.
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  Speaker 1: They only allowed the Raiders to have ninety one yards.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen says, this performance was a long time coming.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it speaks for us, SOLF. You know, our
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  Speaker 1: name speaks for ourselves. If you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to start to be great and once we get
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  Speaker 1: to pass the situation, we make Nick plays. Nicky had
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  Speaker 1: a terrific game. Calais was back there, I was back there,
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  Speaker 1: Smooth was back there. He was making play. TV was
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  Speaker 1: making plays, specially making plays. Is you know that we
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  Speaker 1: brought ourselves to be line to win a game. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we put me made a big impact.
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  Speaker 1: It's the game, alright, defensive game ball Gardner may shoot.
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  Speaker 1: All of that is great, but let's discuss big thing one,
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  Speaker 1: the grievance yesterday afternoon. Cantonnore it. It's a big story.
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  Speaker 1: It's a terrible look for the Jaguars. What does it
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  Speaker 1: mean going forward? Any have a lot of thoughts too, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: There's really two parts to it. The first part being
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  Speaker 1: that the Jaguars wanted everything, according to the NFLPA and
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  Speaker 1: the stories, the Jaguars wanted to make mandator or make
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  Speaker 1: offseason rehab and appointments and and and the like mandatory
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  Speaker 1: in the offseason, and they try to do that. That
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  Speaker 1: in and of itself is not so bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what happened. Look, it happens all the time. And that
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  Speaker 1: people are they're testing, they're trying to push the prescedent
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  Speaker 1: and see what they can get to. That part of it,
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  Speaker 1: The fact that an arbitrator won that and you can't
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  Speaker 1: do it and the fines are rescinded. All of that
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  Speaker 1: is really secondary to the quotes in the email that
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  Speaker 1: was released from the n f l P A basically
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  Speaker 1: saying that that the Jaguars accounted for of the grievances
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  Speaker 1: they've had to file. And then the most damning line
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  Speaker 1: was the end where it said that essentially the players
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  Speaker 1: should consider this before they choose their next team. That's
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  Speaker 1: the line that I've never seen before. All of the
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  Speaker 1: other stuff is one thing that points to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the Players Association thinks there's a real problem. Now, well,
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  Speaker 1: you saw Jalen Ramsey and Dante Polar tweeting last night
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  Speaker 1: and that obviously they would be the ones tweeting because
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. But we haven't heard anything from the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars side about it, so there's really nothing for us
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  Speaker 1: to go on of, Hey, how do they feel about this? Perception?
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's a horrible look, and you always try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, what side of things you look
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  Speaker 1: at um perception sometimes is reality right, and if if
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  Speaker 1: if players perceive this as being this way, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: true or not, that's the perception from the players they
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  Speaker 1: station and that's not good. No, it's not And in
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  Speaker 1: many ways it's a step backwards. Because Dave Caldwell and
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  Speaker 1: I've had this conversation over the years. One of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest things that he felt like he had to do
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  Speaker 1: when he took over as the general manager is convinced
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  Speaker 1: people that players and agents that Jacksonville was a place
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to come. You wanted to overcome the stigma
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  Speaker 1: about the small market, about a losing franchise, And for
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  Speaker 1: the nfl p A to issue that statement, Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the part. I read that statement
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  Speaker 1: and my first thought was to what David told me
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  Speaker 1: um and thinking, wow, you know this, this is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: You think overcome it with money, you can overcome, but
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to overcome it. No, And it to me,
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  Speaker 1: it adds a couple of logs to the fire of intrigue.
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  Speaker 1: What's going to happen here when this season ends? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you were just talking about cleaning out house because
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: of the um the record, right, that's one thing. Now
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have to look deep and
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  Speaker 1: we've we've read the stories, you know, everyone's seen at all.
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  Speaker 1: No one knows what the owner is gonna do at
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  Speaker 1: this point, and people are starting to say, hey, you
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  Speaker 1: now you have to do this, you know you have
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  Speaker 1: to make that change. Again, we don't know what Mr
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  Speaker 1: Kan is gonna do. Um, But that story just it
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  Speaker 1: is a bad look for this franchise right now. And
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  Speaker 1: you were feeling good coming out of Oakland, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't quit. The players in the locker room, there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of guys and we're gonna talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: That I that had really good games, some people that
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  Speaker 1: you might not have thought of that really played well.
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  Speaker 1: That was the arrow was pointing up on Sunday night
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. I mean, now,
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  Speaker 1: it's here's the thing. It's one of many things. The
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  Speaker 1: c b A, the collective Bargaining Agreement between the Players
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  Speaker 1: Association and the league exists, but between the two entities
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  Speaker 1: as a set of guidelines, you can't deter from that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go out and do what you want. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's not unlike the us A Constitution. It sets down
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  Speaker 1: the standard and everyone has to adhere to the standard. Everyone.
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  Speaker 1: It's from from the way that you practice to the
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  Speaker 1: way that players are treated to it is a imperative
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  Speaker 1: that you follow that otherwise you have collusion and all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of lawsuits that come into the name. You must
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  Speaker 1: follow it. The Jaguars, every team pushes it in some place.
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  Speaker 1: Every team challenges it here or there to try to
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  Speaker 1: set a precedent, just like with the law. Right when
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  Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act, and I don't cover politics, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go too deep, but when the Affordable
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  Speaker 1: Care Act came into law, it was a big deal, right,
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  Speaker 1: and people pushed it, well, I'm going to get this insurance.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get that just to see lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: were filed against the little sisters of the poor because
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  Speaker 1: they didn't offer this. I mean, if you go back
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  Speaker 1: and remember that time in our history that happens, you
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  Speaker 1: do that. But when you become the team that is
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  Speaker 1: cited as having made the most attempts to get around
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  Speaker 1: the spirit of the law, that's a problem. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: it's uh, it doesn't have to be defining, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to touch everything. But if you lose one player,
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  Speaker 1: this is a competitively well so uh, if you're having
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  Speaker 1: to pay more to counteract that, it's just a hurdle
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  Speaker 1: that's not necessary to have to. Yeah, it's it's exactly
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  Speaker 1: and it's um, it's got to be addressed. Yeah, But
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  Speaker 1: the problem is, at least from fans, is that the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars haven't released a statement yet, so what do we
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  Speaker 1: expect their waiting. I don't think you're going to see
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  Speaker 1: a state. I don't know, but I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: will see a statement on this. I think any statement
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  Speaker 1: will come collectively with all the other statements that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to make at the end of the Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think actually, in one way or the other will
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  Speaker 1: be Well, what could you even say at this point? Right, yeah, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into the game. We discussed that, so I
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  Speaker 1: have to admit I was wrong. You were standing at
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  Speaker 1: the field before halftime and Brian, you said, you know
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  Speaker 1: they're still in this. You know they could come back
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  Speaker 1: and they could find I said Brian, Well, Brian had
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  Speaker 1: been Inhaling and Hales second hand step point. You've been
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  Speaker 1: here before the past five weeks. What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Let me explain the reason why is is it looked
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  Speaker 1: awful on the opening drive when the Raiders, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson missed it easy tackle these teams and they
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  Speaker 1: go right down the field. It seems so effortless, and
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  Speaker 1: it was like oh, and then the Raiders kept attacking
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars defense held them off, and the game
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen to three, but you kept thinking. I kept thinking,
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  Speaker 1: I thought this. I felt like I was going to
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  Speaker 1: blow away, and so I will admit that. When we
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: came out for the start of the third quarter, the
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  Speaker 1: first thing on my mind is we've seen this team
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  Speaker 1: in close games at this point before you know what's
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  Speaker 1: going to change. Well to take it a step. The
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  Speaker 1: defense changed the deep. As much as people want to
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  Speaker 1: give Gardner Minshew credit for Minshoe magic at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the game, the defense got my game Ball for
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  Speaker 1: this because at times it seemed like they had no
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  Speaker 1: answer for the tight end and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he did. And by the way, A J. Boyer
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  Speaker 1: did a really good job on him, made some tackles
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  Speaker 1: that Jared Wilson didn't make. They got opportune sacks, and
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  Speaker 1: by that I mean you know on key plays on
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  Speaker 1: third down or setting up third and six. Team from
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  Speaker 1: third and six. That guy played his best game in
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars uniform, hands down, no contest. You can't argue it.
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  Speaker 1: He played the run like I have not seen him
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  Speaker 1: play the run. He was unstoppable against the past. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't have an answer for him. Best game in a
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars uniform for that guy right there. The defense won
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  Speaker 1: that ball game. Minsho took advantage of the situation. But
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  Speaker 1: that was a day for defense, and what changed was
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  Speaker 1: in the first half and for the five previous games.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great celebration, by the way, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a big celebration guy. That was that was the
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  Speaker 1: best play you're made all day. And you know it
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  Speaker 1: says something you see unique and Unique is a different
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  Speaker 1: guy now. I mean there are times in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room where you go to approach Unique and you're not
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  Speaker 1: sure what you're gonna get. What you're gonna get, but
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  Speaker 1: but overall is it. There's also a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: where there there's a football intelligent. There's a life intelligent
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  Speaker 1: about the guy. Uh. I've always liked the guy because
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I like guys are a little different. Um. There he
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  Speaker 1: was celebrating with Josh Allen, with the guy who everything
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  Speaker 1: last year was he was draft to take his job. Well,
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  Speaker 1: here are two guys who are unbelieved with competit football
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  Speaker 1: players who clearly get along. Um. Whatever you say about
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  Speaker 1: Unique the remarkable thing this year and I agree with
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  Speaker 1: this best game he's had here. Um, he could have
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  Speaker 1: poundered all year. He could have been all I say, pout,
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  Speaker 1: even around the building, even how he treats people. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you expect him to play hard, but he has been
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  Speaker 1: the same guy he has been. You know, during the
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  Speaker 1: last game, the one they lost out here, Uh Chargers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there were tweets about how a Unique and Todd wash
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: weren't getting along. Uh. There was some tweet about enough
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  Speaker 1: game to game and heals at everyone. Right. Secondly, they
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  Speaker 1: love Unique and Godway Unique and Godway loves Todd. Watch
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  Speaker 1: he's this guy. Um, that stuff doesn't exist with Yon.
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  Speaker 1: He's trying to win. He's putting forth everything. Um, and
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: he's played his way to the point where a couple
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: more thoughts on John Uh. First of all, at the
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  Speaker 1: end of a year five game losing streak, Uh, guys
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  Speaker 1: who are gonna be free agents on most teams, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of shut it down. I mean, they don't play.
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  Speaker 1: They think they've given enough good tape and they're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. They're gonna play it safe. He didn't
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: play it safe, right, I mean, if he played well
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: against the run he had his two sacks, no I know,
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  Speaker 1: but he he went the opposite of safe. He was
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: all out and we've all seen guys who were playing
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: for new contracts who take it easy at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season like that. He didn't. He's two nuts
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  Speaker 1: to take it easy. Well, he doesn't. He plays on
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  Speaker 1: the edge. But you know, I mean, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: He played it right, very logically this whole time with
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  Speaker 1: respect to how he was going to prepare for the season. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be here for the team. And then
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you couldn't have blamed him if he's thinking about his
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: contract because he didn't get the big deal and he
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: played with the bandon on Sunday. Um, that impresses me.
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  Speaker 1: Second and last, because I knew we're gonna move on. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I asked him in the locker room after the game
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  Speaker 1: how much and he smiled because remember I was the
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  Speaker 1: guy that said, don't pay this guy right because he's
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: undersized and you have an oversized corner to pay right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That was when you know the looming specter, as I
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: wrote of Jalen Ramsey's contract, was you can't pay him
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  Speaker 1: both pay the big corner. You can find the undersized
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher because there are plenty of them in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Um well, I mean, not like him. Well, and there's
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  Speaker 1: some really good pass rush. I'm not talking about everything
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  Speaker 1: about him, but I'm saying from his size perspective, Um,
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  Speaker 1: now you can pay him, and you better because that
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  Speaker 1: game they're showed he's ready to go. You'll get your
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: money from Unique. Now. When I smiled at me and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I said how much and he kind of gave me
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  Speaker 1: that wink, I went, well, okay, hold on now, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: great game, but let's figure it out. He's shooting for
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  Speaker 1: the move. Yeah, it'd be it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: story because they're for sure going to throw the franchise
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• 17:39
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• 17:45
  Speaker 1: it is. The franchise tag would almost be a no
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: brainer because you've got to figure out. As much as
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  Speaker 1: we know Unique they won't, so that would make sense
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: considering if it's a new thing. There's no way Unique
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• 18:02
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  Speaker 1: defense gets the Raiders off the field. Here comes Gardner
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  Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Come Conley makes the grabs six yard
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  Speaker 1: right still playing with that touchdown makes it sixteen and thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear a pen drop in Oakland right now
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  Speaker 1: in the stadium except for the screens of Gardner Minshew
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: coming down the sidelines. You could hear those from at
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  Speaker 1: least where we were standing. Raiders miss two field goals
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  Speaker 1: in the next drive. No points for the Raiders, and
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  Speaker 1: here comes that man again. You can't take a sack.
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  Speaker 1: Throw the football away at first and ten dot into
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• 22:47
  Speaker 1: work done, Chointer and Jecksonville has their first lead today.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Crazy was fun. It was fun. Worry about Chris Conley too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who I guess it's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: taken a little bit of heat. Uh really yeah, I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: mean some don't blow my hot tape. He had some drops.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I won't blow your hot take. But you shut up
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: right now and let him talk. And they've gotten their money.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: He's worth at him for what they Yes, I thought
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they were gonna get. That's a career year for him.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And uh, veteran guy. I thought he was terrific in
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the locker room Um, you know, with a young quarterback
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like that, it's really important to have someone like Chris Conley,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: not Nick Foles, Chris Conley who can kind of thread
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: it all together. You gotta have a guy who's actually
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: on the field playing at this point, and there's not
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman that really does that. I mean, yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon Lendard to some degree, but Conley kind of kept
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: things moving and I thought he was very insightful after
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the game. Um, you know when you signed him back
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in in market, you say, well, the guy's gonna give
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you catches, six touchdowns. Done. Yeah, we'll take that. That's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: exactly what he's done with two games left to play.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Anything else to add? Don't you have a hot take comment?
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  Speaker 1: tired again, and this isn't that hot. I guess I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't feel hot. It's morning, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know I am hot, but I just don't feel
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  Speaker 1: He just throws that one in there. That's just enough.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I was tired, Brian, and now I'm more tired wired this.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I've gotten questions, and I get this every year with
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a losing season, a losing season at the end of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: it when it's double digits, people are always standing around
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: going all, this is a weird one because it takes
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: weirdness to get the double ditters. There's always weird stuff
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. You can't predict it. But when you
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: throw on the stuff with the NFL p A, when
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you add that on to the top, you had eleven
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: plays into this season, Nick Foles goes down less than
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: two weeks later, the jail and stuff hits um and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: then you sort of meander through mins humania, which sort
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of wears you. I mean, that's tiring, and now I've losing,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and now this I always hesitated to say I've never
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: seen one this weird because I sat in the press
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: conference when Jim Moore did his famous playoff rance are playoffs, man,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: So I've seen weird. I've seen some weird with this thing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But this is an odd, odd season and it's uh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I guess credit the players. They don't feel like they're
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: playing out the string and it's got to be sort
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of tiring and weird for them too. So it's a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a very hot take. But I think it's the weirdest
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: season and I am I am weirdy to um I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: trying to think of a season that's has many. There
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was a good weird I mean, ninety six was weird, um,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: but it ended, you know with them in the a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: f C Championship game. Mud two was weird. December was
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: weird that year. You know when when they moved on
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: from tom Um. Two thousand eleven was weird. When I
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: was sitting with Tony Boselli and having a cup of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: coffee when we got the text, we thought they were
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: gonna fire Jack de Rio and what they did and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: then they also announced, oh yeah, Shotgun bought the team.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It was weird. Um, But this is this is easily
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the weirdest, most at least predictable, most unpredictable. How Ever,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you want to say, it's season in jaguarsity and it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: not over yet. I mean there's two games left to play,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and then obviously with whatever they're going to do, Um, ah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you're tired to Nope, I'm energetic. I will say if
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we would go back to start a training camp. We
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: talked about this with Jalen and Nick Foles getting hurt.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Now if you add on the other headlines and said, yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: this is all going to happen, this year. Get ready.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: He'd say, oh nuts, oh boy, buckle up. It's been weird.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's been weird, and it might get even weirder. And
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that's okay. Brian uh I thought that Leon Jacobs was
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: having a really nice start to the season. He had
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a couple of big games against Denver, against Houston, and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: then he got hurts. He had that I don't from
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: mid toe, uh or the turf toe or mid foot injury.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But he was gone for a while after the Cincinnati
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: game and then kind of struggled to get back to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the forum. He was all over the field on Sunday.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And he's not just a tackling machine, although he was.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: He he rushes the pastor, which is what he did
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, and he had a couple of of pass
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: rushes where he didn't get the quarterback, but he took
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the offensive tackle Colton Miller, who is a big first
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: round pick and a big guy, and jammed him back
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: into the backfield. Bull rushed him. It's which is not
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: surprised by the way. If you've ever seen Lee on
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: his cut, he's a big He's a big guy. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: think he is star is too strong of a word
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for a seventh round pick. He is a guy that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you can say that's foundational piece right there. And I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: know everybody says, well, the Jaguars linebackers call me optimistic.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I still think Myles Jack has good football left in him. Um.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: And I think with Leon I think if you're gonna
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: pay a Unique and Gockway, and they're gonna pay Unique
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and Gockway, at some point, you gotta change your scheme.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And I think you have to go to more of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a fundamental three four scheme to keep him on the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: field because he's a guy that you want in an
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: in an outside backer kind of rule. And and Josh
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Allen can be that sort of hybrid guy too. Um.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: But you I could see Leon Jacob's playing, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a week side interior your position him with Miles Jack.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I think that Leon Jacobs was sad. Your linebackers come straight. Yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I guess you've changed the position a little bit. If
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you question him. I get it because he's a seventh
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: round pick and he had the injury this year and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you didn't see it week in and week out watch
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: him the next two weeks. I think he's a terrific
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: prospect and a guy who just every time he made
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a tackle the day, I was like, Wow, every tackle
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: impressed me. I think he's a great prospect and a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: guy with a lot of upside that people should keep
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: their eye on. Yeah, someone we should pay attention to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: going forward. All Right, my Bernie Wood fire girl. Hot
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: take is Chris Connelly isn't having a bad season. Take
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that Twitter, Go figure, it's Twitter. The cries from Twitter
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the past few weeks that Conney was an absolute waste
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: of a free agent acquisition. I know you what you're
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: gonna say. You're gonna say, way to pick the game
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: where he had two touchdowns, schwen to talk about this, Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that's what you do. But I think that's what what
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: it was going to take to show six touchdowns on
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the year, four touchdowns career high six and eighty one
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: yards forty two catches this year sixteen point two yards
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: per catch that ranks ninth in the NFL. It was
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: gonna take a big game like we saw in Oakland
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to prove why Chris Connolly was a good free agent acquisition.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: He already was. Now it's icing on the cake. Take
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that Twitter. He's got a chance to finish with about
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: eight yards receiving fifty catches. That's about touchdowns and the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: idea of this receiving corps. I thought at the beginning
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of the season was going to be that you would
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: have D D, Conley and Shark all at about that number.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe one of them hit thousand, maybe, you know, but
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I thought that was what the receiving corps was going
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to be, and that the defense would be outstanding all
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: year and the offense was sort of compliment and get
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: better by the end. He's he's done his job, I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: think receiver. When he came out, I I thought he
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: might be you're gonna be twelve dred yards in Kansas
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: City with Pat Mahomes, for goodness sake, are you gonna
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: down here? Right? And? Uh, you know, I think he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: had the running game been a little more reliable, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: think you might have seen a few more big, big
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: places from Chris Kindley. He showed it. Uh was against
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati that he scored the Jets here seven yets. I'm sorry, Um,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you might have seen a couple more like that had
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the running game been more liable and sort of forced
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the play action game a little bit. But he's been good. Well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: one more thing to point out because we've forgotten d J.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Chuck was gone. You know, you're well, that's and that's
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the key word we hear all the time. It's time
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: for someone else to step up, next man up. All that,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the jargon that you hear in the locker
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: room when a guy you know goes down, and he did,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that's what you paid for. That the veteran presence that
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: steps in and the key game. And by the way, um,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of Keenan McCardell. He's a
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: tough guy, you know, he and and and you notice
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: on the the touchdown catch that got them the first touchdown,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he was able to turn his body and avoid the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: big hit. Keenan would take the big hit, but he'd
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: avoid it too. I mean, he's a smart guy, understands
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the game, loves the game. Um. I think that's an
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: interesting pairing with Keenan the coach and um Chris the player.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And they yelled at each other in the sidelines. I mean,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they have their moments, but he's that veteran presence, especially
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: with marks. I'm sure keen loves that gets just one thing,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell. There Fred Kof the great Raider's receiver Um
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was a coach in perpetuity for the Raiders. I mean,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: it didn't matter who the head coach was. Fred Nikoff
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was Al Davis's wide receivers coach. UM. I think Keenan
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: McCardell should be that guy, no matter who the head coaches,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: no matter who the general manager is, no matter who's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: calling the shots. If I'm the owner, I want Keenan
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: McCardell on my staff. He was my one of my
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: greatest players in one of my greatest eras, even though
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the owner at that time. And I think
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: he's a terrific coach and I won him on the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: staff regardless, Keena maccardell should be here as long as
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: he wants to be here. I agree with the very
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: last part, Um. I think I think Keenan can be
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator to and do more, but as long
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: as he wants to be a receivers coach, maybe the
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: corner here. Oh you know, yeah, I'm not trying to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: limit him because the head coach at some point if
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: he proves that he's capable of that. But I think
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he's got upside. But I think he also has that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: sort of question that looks an eleventh round pick back
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in the day, right, And he bounced between the Bears
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and the Redskins, and the Bears and the Redskins, and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: he went to the Browns and the Ravens, and he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: ended up playing for the Texans and the Chargers and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. He's a tough guy. He is the epitome
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of want. Well what did I say last week? Someone's
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: got to start that Jaguar culture, right, that Jaguar style
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that is there in no matter who the coach isn't
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: who the quarterback is, Keenan might be that guy and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: he's still the best receiver on the field in his mind.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And then that's what I love about him the most.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And he challenges he challenges his guys. So, all right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: those are our Bernie Wood fire girl hot takes. Let's
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: visit the ozone mail bag old so good, good, good,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: jam good jam. All right, Stevreds are pretty hot. Let's
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  Speaker 1: visit the UK Scott, what do you have for us?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: While he undoubtedly has been a dominant force playing as
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a defensive end, given our problems at linebacker, has there
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: been no consideration to play Josh Allen at outside linebacker
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to help against the run. Well, not in this scheme
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and not this season. Uh, this staff, I believe. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: think it's a lot of merit to it. Play a
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: guy at a position as a rookie. Let him be
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: good there, don't risk having him fall off with what
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he's giving you. Um and I have no problem with
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Josh staying in one position this year. I think if
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: if this scheme stays intact, which who knows what's king
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of the season, that's always the caveat right now. But
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: if this scheme stays in tech, I could see them
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: start to move him around as he gets more comfortable.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But why because he's if he if he watched him
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: play the run as an end, he he's got good
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: strength to take on offensive tackle in this scheme. He's good. Yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: he's really good at If you put him at outside linebacker,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you weaken yourself at a position that's more difficult to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: find guys like that. Right now, as you mentioned, if
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you go to a more a three four scheme, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: he's that guy, then he's a guy absolutely because he's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: not in three four scheme. He is not an end.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But that's why they haven't moved him to lineback because
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he's good where he is, and you know I wouldn't
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: have messed with anything is for him. He's got ten
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: sacks as a rookie. He's doing it as hey, look um,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: watch him in the run. I know everyone watches him
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: in the past. Rush focus on him in the run
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, uh in Atlanta, and you will see what
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He's the best player on the roster
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: going forwards. True, he's going right now, but he's very
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: close to that. He will be the jewel piece of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the friend. He'll be a sixteen, seventeen, eighteen sad guy
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: at some point in his career. All right, let's go
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: to Tom from St. John's, Florida. This is not a
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: smart Alex question. Really want your insight onnest answer. Is
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: this offensive line really as horrible as it appears to fans?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And is it possible to elevate it to just questionable?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I've been saying for a couple of weeks the offensive
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: line is a real mystery to me. I look across
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: at the five guys and think to myself, I would
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: have no problem with any of those five guys as
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: a starter. Uh and yet as a group, it just
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: isn't what you would have thought that it was going
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to be when you look at him on paper. Um,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson struggled the other day. Is he your left
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: tackle going forward? Do you kick him inside? I think
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: that's a legitimate question. I don't know what the answer
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: will be. Um, I don't think they're that far away
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: from being very, very serviceable. I think there's pieces there,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: John Taylor, I think Brandon Linder is a good players.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: You've got to uh, yeah, I would. I kind of
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: included this question because I figured maybe Brian, you'd better
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: answer to night because I did look down. As you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Cam came out onto the field late, Um away he
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: said a good way. He started the third quarter at
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: left tackle, and he's he's fidgeting and adjusting his big brace.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You know the big brace he's wearing on his leg
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and for a left tackle, you know that's that kick
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: leg where you're planting it back there. So I think
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: there's part of that. And you say that he struggled
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: a bit, I didn't see it. I mean there were
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: some well, no, I get it, but there were a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: couple of series where he took the number four overall,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: pick the guy that the Raiders took instead of Josh
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Allen Cleveland Ferrell and shut him down, drove him into
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the ground. Um, and I thought, okay, there were some
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: moments where I said, okay, I've got that. Well, that's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: kind of my point with all these guys. There's moments
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: where you're like, hey, this is what let's not mess
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: with this. This is what it is going forward. I've
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: said it's from the beginning. Now at the end of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the game, you're like, well, I didn't play that. Yeah,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it's just not I would move on from both of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: my guards, and I would find guards. I think the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: guard play up the middle. And and maybe Brandon Linder
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: deserves a little bit of criticis is him to uh
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: because he's in the middle of that, although I keep
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hearing from everyone that knows that he's had a really
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: good season and that he's a really, really good player.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go back with the guards. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and all season long, I've watched Andrew Norwell give up
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a sack because he didn't slide over and catch the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: guy coming through awareness. Um. Of course, he wasn't brought
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in to be a past protector. He was brought in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: to be a road grader. So I think I just
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: move on from both guards and go find a couple
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: of guards and see what my offensive on what you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: supposed to be able to do those to find one
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of the thing. Maybe it's scheme. Maybe the type of
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: scheme they're trying to run here doesn't fit this group
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: of players. Possibly, All right, let's go to Chris from
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Space City, Texas. Minshow is a backup? No matter what
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: happens next two games, the Jaguars can't pass on a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: potential franchise quarterback for mediocre to poor play. They must
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: pick a quarterback with their first pick. Then lineman throughout
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: may want to throw on a tight end that can
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: stay healthy and produce. Well, thank you much as at
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: this point and h but I think this is the
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: great debate. I mean it's every time I say, minshe
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you can't do it, he does something that makes me think, well,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: maybe there's something there. I look at him. I have
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a tough time believing that he is the guy going forward.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But when he's got five wins and three comes from
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: behind wins, and he's got something there, you've got to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: give him a chance going forward. But but I agree
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that if somebody's coming and making making new decisions, uh,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: with the top five pick, top seven pick, I think
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it should be hard not to take a quarterback. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: don't know that he's a franchise guy, and they've been
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: without that too long. Here a couple of thoughts. The
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: first is, you never passed on a franchise quarterback ever,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: as team has done it in the past, uh thinking
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger in two thousand four and Rodgers in two
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: thousand and five with Deshaun Watson. I mean, you can
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you can point these things out. Patrick Mahomes, you never
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: he passed on a franchise quarterback, So if there's one
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: sitting there, you take him. Um. A hot take that
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to have is is that Nick Foles
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: will be the starting quarterback here in two thousand and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: twenty and people will roar at that, But he's gonna
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: be on the roster because he's twenty two million dollars
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and two million dollars doesn't sit on the bench. Plus,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I think that this was a disjointed year for him,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and I watched the guy throw the ball, and I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: think he belongs on the field at some point Now,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: credit to Minshew for what he's able to do right
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and and the throws that he made and the persona
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that he brings to the table. I still question his
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: arm strength. And someone said to me, what about that
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: fifty five yard deep ball? The deep ball is not
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the test in the pro football of an arm. If
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you think the deep ball is how you judge a
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: guy's arm, you don't know what you're looking at. It's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the fifteen yard did the out? You got to drive
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the ball between the backer and the defensive back and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I because there's where either interceptions occur or he can't
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: do it. They got lucky on that, well, I don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: know they got lucky. There was past interference on Trayvon Martin,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that mark and what's the trap on Martin? What's his
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: last name? The corner that set up the first touchdown
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: UM and and boy tell you what, that ball could
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: have been picked too. That's not He does not have
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a power arm. People, Well, Drew Brees doesn't have a
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: power up. Blooney, Drew Brees doesn't have a power arm.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: He sure does. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I'm not
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: ready to declare that Minshew is the future of this franchise.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I love him. He reminded. It's funny. He reminded me
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a bit of Ken Stabler, uh and the way the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: other flamboyant in the way that he made plays. But
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Kenny Stableyer had a whip, and and and Gardner doesn't
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and and he's not the only guy that doesn't. And
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: maybe you can overcome that. But I would not pass
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: on a franchise quarterback. If where I'm selecting, there's one there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Quarterback will be fascinating this offseason. It could go one
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of at least three directions. You could have a first
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: round guy, you could have Foods, you could have Minshew. Um,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating. And we have no idea what's
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: going to happen. I wish I did. I wish Minshew
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: had breezes arm. Of course if he had, he wouldn't
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: been a six year pature. Yeah, good point. If we
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• 46:44
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• 46:58
  Speaker 1: with that, let's go ahead and on showing it. And uh,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: we will start with this one. Speaking of the Raiders. Uh,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: they heard from the league yesterday about the slide out
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: of bounds um and Raveron al Riveron said sorry about that. Yeah,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change anything. Uh, and we're of course
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: not sorry here, but the league said, yeah, we're we're
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: sorry about that. Moving right along, Um, this is not
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: good news for the Seahawks or for Josh Gordon, but
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: this headline is never going away. Sixth suspension for him,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: five for substances. UM. It is indefinite at this point.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And it would appear that Josh Gordon, who got chance
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: after chance after chance with the Browns and then the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots and now the Seahawks, is um he's done. So
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I think six chances a lot of chances. Well, here's
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the thing, John, It tells you how incredibly talented. He
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: has it. He had a two d and sixty two
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: yard game against this team. Two you thought this is
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the best or this is Randy Moss Part two. Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I mean just and just show you know, I m
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: it just shows you how powerful what's going on with
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: him is. So he's got he's got a good lights out. Uh.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: And then congratulations to Drew Brees, who just how many
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: more records and what else is there for him to get?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Last night, the ball that he's holding was his five
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: five hundred and forty career touchdowns past Tom Brady, passed
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it in in the game, pass Brady and then pass Peyton.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Manning now has the all time record. He has the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: most passing yards. Another record he set last night was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: his completion percentage in the game was nearly Um nineteen
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: seasons discarded by the Chargers in favor of Philip rivers Um,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: thought by most of the league to be a tremendous risk,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a gamble because of the shoulder injury and fourteen years
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: he has been in the face of New Orleans. So
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: congratulations to Drew Brees. Craziness, what a night for him,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: all right, and that is our show. Jaguars Drive time
• 49:09
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