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Masters of the Hunt - Appalachian Bigfoot with Trey of Squatch Me Now · The Cryptid Huntress

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Speaker 1: Well, hang, it's the Crypted Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones. Also, y'all,
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Speaker 1: the Hunt everybody where. We are going on the Hunt
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Speaker 1: tonight with a tree from Squatch me. Now, he's a filmmaker,
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Speaker 1: a bigfoot researcher. This is going to be such a
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Speaker 1: got so much to talk about. We were we were
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Speaker 1: cutting it up before the show while we go and
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Speaker 1: uh we got we got some more dots to connect tonight, y'all.
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Speaker 1: Some new ones with some Cherokee legends out of North
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Speaker 1: Carolina the East Coast, and some giants and some bigfoots
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Speaker 1: to talk about. So let's do this tonight. Man. I
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Speaker 1: just got in from the woods. I took my son out,
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Speaker 1: my dog. We were out there doing a little big
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Speaker 1: footing today and I was actually in the middle of
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Speaker 1: weird activity that happened during that, and so you guys
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Speaker 1: note speaker. I don't know how this happened. At the
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Speaker 1: Georgia Bigfoot Conference this year, it's gonna be up in
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Speaker 1: North Georgia in Demorest at Piedmont University. I will be
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Speaker 1: their keynote speaker this year at the twenty twenty five
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Speaker 1: Georgia Bigfoot Conference. You guys save the date, come up
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a huge list of speakers there. Some
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Speaker 1: of my good friends are gonna be up there with
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Speaker 1: me speaking, including David Pardue. I just saw him in
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Speaker 1: the chat. What's up, David Pardue out of North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: I let David know we're gonna be talking about North
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Speaker 1: Carolina bigfoots today. So that's his stomping ground, and so yeah,
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Speaker 1: so y'all come see me at that as well. Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: let's get to our show, y'all. Because I treat here
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Speaker 1: Tree does not do a whole lot of public appearances.
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Speaker 1: He does not do a whole lot of interview So
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Speaker 1: I am so honored and grateful and blessed that he's
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Speaker 1: here today, and so we're gonna let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: He's got some fantastic coming out and so y'all are
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Speaker 1: going to hear about that tonight. Trey Howell is a
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Speaker 1: lifelong researcher of all things so Terek. For over twenty years,
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Speaker 1: he's worked in the film in marketing, industry, and he
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Speaker 1: currently owns Howell Media, a digital marketing agency focused on
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Speaker 1: content and social media strategy. In twenty nineteen, he launched
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Speaker 1: squatch me Now, a social media presence where he curates
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Speaker 1: the best evidence for the Bigfoot phenomenon. In the last
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Speaker 1: few years, squatch me Now has grown to over half
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Speaker 1: a million followers across multiple social platforms, and he's currently
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Speaker 1: producing films. A film series actually on the subject of
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Speaker 1: Sasquatch and it's titled Masters of the Hunt. And I
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Speaker 1: want to give a little I want to quote this. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is from his newest movie. It hasn't been released yet,
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Speaker 1: he's got a Kickstarter going for it. Since prehistoric times,
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Speaker 1: indigenous people across the globe have encountered Bigfoot like beings.
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Speaker 1: The reports persist to this day, from ancient giants to
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Speaker 1: the art of the hoax wood apes to the Wu Factor.
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Speaker 1: This series will be a comprehensive investigation into the full
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Speaker 1: spectrum of the Sasquatch phenomenon. We'll take a journey through
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Speaker 1: history and around the world to seek the truth behind
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Speaker 1: the origins and ongoing reality known as Bigfoot. Our adventure
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Speaker 1: begins in the mountains of Appalachia and what is now
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Speaker 1: the southeastern US. Here, the ancient Cherokee were visited by
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Speaker 1: giants from the West. They were known as the Lord
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Speaker 1: of the Game or the masters of the hunt. Please
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Speaker 1: help me. Welcome to the show, mister Tray of squatch me. Now,
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Speaker 1: what's up, Tray?
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Speaker 2: How you doing?
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to the Crypti Hunters Channel. Thank you for being.
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Speaker 2: Here, become being back. Been here a couple of.
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Speaker 1: Times, Yes, you have, well, actually you were on I
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Speaker 1: think you came on spaced Out Radio. So yeah, you
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Speaker 1: have definitely sat down with me a couple times. We've
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Speaker 1: had a good a good couple of interviews, and it
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Speaker 1: is it was really fun. And it's been too long.
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Speaker 1: It's been too long. It's been years since I've seen you. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: what you've been up to?
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Speaker 2: Uh well, there's a lot going on in the world,
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Speaker 2: isn't there. Oh yeah, so life. But other than that,
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Speaker 2: just continuing research and working on this film project, which
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Speaker 2: is a or a docu series, so it's you know,
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Speaker 2: like hour long episodes starting in the Southeast and just
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Speaker 2: looking at this phenomenon from a lot of different levels.
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Speaker 2: I think something we really need to do that we're
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Speaker 2: not doing it's thinking bigger about the Bigfoot subject. We're
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Speaker 2: trying everyone's trying to compartmentalize this into their expertise whatever
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Speaker 2: they think it is, you know, and it's really it's everything,
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Speaker 2: isn't you know. I mean, that's what everything's telling us.
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Speaker 2: Right now. We're in this very special time in the
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Speaker 2: world where things are coming to light and the spinning,
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Speaker 2: and you know, we're learning about a lot of things
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Speaker 2: that have been hidden from us, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a great time to really push forward a little
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Speaker 2: bit further with this subject and instead of trying to
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Speaker 2: pigeonhole it into one thing or another, really look at
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Speaker 2: the full scope of how this connects to our origins
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Speaker 2: and human beings, and how it's bigfoot is really sort
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Speaker 2: of a multi directional stepping stone into all these other
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Speaker 2: sort of esoteric subject matters. So that's sort of where
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Speaker 2: I'm going. I started a Bigfoot page because I thought
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Speaker 2: it was the most sort of grounded in reality type,
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Speaker 2: you know, paranormal phenomenon, and it connects to so many things,
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Speaker 2: and it's so easy to research in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 2: We're constantly finding new hominid specimens. We're not instially finding
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Speaker 2: huge ones, you know, but the dnosavans are great. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you know about the denosavans, but they're
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Speaker 2: recently found hominid species that's some mix of humans, Neanderthals,
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Speaker 2: and some other unknown DNA donor. And I had molars
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Speaker 2: the size of bear cape bear teeth. So you're talking
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Speaker 2: about molars like this big. So if the molar is
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Speaker 2: this big, you gotta have a big head, you gotta
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Speaker 2: have a big jaw, all these things. So what did
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Speaker 2: they just have a giant funko pophead or was the
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Speaker 2: body proportional to the size of the head that would
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Speaker 2: be proportional to the size of the jaw that would
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Speaker 2: carry a tooth of that size. All we have are skulls,
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Speaker 2: you know, parts of skulls, pieces, fragments. So we're finding
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Speaker 2: all these new parts of the human family every day,
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Speaker 2: and it's becoming more interesting. So I thought this was
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Speaker 2: a very like grounded place to start. And what I
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Speaker 2: find funny is that we still get there's no evidence
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Speaker 2: for this all the time. You know. That's what a
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Speaker 2: great thing about the socials. It has been a great
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Speaker 2: way to sort of research humans and human behavior and
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Speaker 2: how we respond to things and what the questions people
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Speaker 2: have are really about the subject that need to be answered.
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Speaker 2: But I find it really funny that we have the
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Speaker 2: government like declassifying you know, UFOs whatever that is. But
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Speaker 2: Bigfoot is still like that's crazy. You know, that's a
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Speaker 2: silly it's a silly. No, this is like way simpler
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Speaker 2: for me to wrap my head around than whatever the
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Speaker 2: source of the UFO phenomenon is. But I think it's
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Speaker 2: really it's all connected. So the series is really my
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Speaker 2: Bigfoot theory of everything. You know, that's where we're going.
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Speaker 2: But you got to start in pieces, and so we're
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Speaker 2: biting it off in our segments that are focused on
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Speaker 2: different areas of the country and the world, and then
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Speaker 2: tying what we find there to other places. So, like
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Speaker 2: we were talking from the show about su Kaloo, which
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Speaker 2: is also Jubicola. Juicula is the Anglicized version of Sukloo.
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Speaker 2: Sukaloo was a giant that the Cherokee encountered about four
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Speaker 2: or five hundred years before the white man showed up,
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Speaker 2: and he married a Cherokee maiden and she went off
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Speaker 2: and lived with him in the mountain with his tribe
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Speaker 2: of giants, the giants from the west. So a few
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Speaker 2: hundred years later you have white people in those same
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Speaker 2: mountains about nineteen miles away, mostly at this point Irish
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Speaker 2: and Scottish, but they have replaced what were the original settlers,
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Speaker 2: which were French, and they had a bigfoot like creature
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Speaker 2: known as Boujiam. And Boujium liked two things. He liked
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Speaker 2: precious gemstones, and he liked beautiful women. And he would
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Speaker 2: go and he would peak on the girls that would
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Speaker 2: go down to the fishing hole or the swimming hole
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Speaker 2: to bathe, and he was known for peaking on them. Well,
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Speaker 2: one of these girls supposedly fell in love with the Boujiam.
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Speaker 2: Her name was Annie. And the Boujiam had this habit
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Speaker 2: of going away, being gone for a while, and then
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Speaker 2: he would come back, and this is very similar to
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Speaker 2: the Sulkualoo legend. And you know, eventually, you know, Annie
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Speaker 2: would go out into the woods and hoot they saw
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Speaker 2: They said she would hoot for him. She would hoot
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Speaker 2: for Boujim to come back, which I find is interesting
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Speaker 2: because it's very similar to say, well, whoop right. So
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Speaker 2: she would go out in the woods and she would
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Speaker 2: hoot for Boujiam, and that's where you get the term
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Speaker 2: hoot nanny, you know, heard of like the Appalachian party,
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Speaker 2: where you know, a wild party is a hoot nanny rights, right.
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Speaker 2: So eventually Busiam came back and Annie went off with
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Speaker 2: him and she never returned. But in both cases we're
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Speaker 2: talking about a big, hairy, gruesome looking giant. So the
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Speaker 2: question is why would these women run off with them?
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Speaker 2: And you know, how does that connect to a sort
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Speaker 2: of interesting Cherokee mythology about these about these figures. But
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Speaker 2: the so what's interesting about the name Boujem is that
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Speaker 2: it sounds almost creole An. The original settle is there
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Speaker 2: we're French. Yeah, And in France you have this creature
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Speaker 2: called the basijon in the Pyrenees Mountains, which is a
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Speaker 2: big foot like creature that has very similar characteristics too
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Speaker 2: boujeon and sulk galoo. So uh, you know it's not
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Speaker 2: that they would that is the same creature, but the
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Speaker 2: French settlers there probably originally identified that as something they
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Speaker 2: knew called the basijon, and then you have the Scottish
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Speaker 2: and the Irish sort of turning that into boujeon like
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Speaker 2: they turned Sulk Galoo into Judah Color.
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Speaker 1: Judah coulu Well, Kay, Tree, Well, I've first of all,
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Speaker 1: honestly thank you to Kent Baxter. That is so sweet
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Speaker 1: of you that you gave me the super stickerator. You're
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your support, Kent. That means
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Speaker 1: the world to me. He says, You're doing a superb job.
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Speaker 1: Keep on grinding. Thank you. I just grind out. I
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Speaker 1: grind it out all these shows all week Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much, Kent. You're the best. And uh and so
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Speaker 1: I wanted to let you know. I know Tree, you
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Speaker 1: and I have talked about this before. I've actually been
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Speaker 1: a to Judicola Rock before, and I was up there
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Speaker 1: with my cherry Kee friend of mine and we did
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Speaker 1: some camping up there. We had a jam packed weekend,
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Speaker 1: a bigfoot activity and a potential skin walker. Actually we've had.
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Speaker 1: We had a lot of stuff that happened. The sky
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Speaker 1: ships over Cashers were floating above our heads all weekend.
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Speaker 1: It was wild. But we chief David who I was with,
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Speaker 1: David Webb, he's written a book about Judicola Rock and
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Speaker 1: he took us there. We went there. I think we
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Speaker 1: just went once from what I can remember, let's see,
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Speaker 1: he took us once. And now this is Judicola Rock
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Speaker 1: from probably the nineteen twenties or so. But this is
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Speaker 1: an ancient rock full of petroglyphs on it. So this
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Speaker 1: also is an area of very high strangeness. Okay, the
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Speaker 1: whole area is deep within the Appalachian Mountains and most
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Speaker 1: people don't really know exactly what these petroglyphs petrick glyphs mean.
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Speaker 1: I do believe that Chief David was telling us that
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Speaker 1: it's like a creation story. According to him, it's star wars.
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Speaker 2: Star maps, all kinds of things. But you'll see the
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Speaker 2: six toad uh footprint at the bottom, Yeah, which was
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Speaker 2: our handprint, which was indicative to those particular giants. But
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Speaker 2: the Cherokee encounter I suppose.
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Speaker 1: Had six fingered giants. Now do you do you think
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Speaker 1: that Sukloo was a sasquatch type being or could it
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Speaker 1: have been a human giant?
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Speaker 2: Well? What's the human giants?
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Speaker 1: Mhm?
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Speaker 2: Right? I mean is it? These are the questions we're
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Speaker 2: now looking at, like, what is a human giant? Do
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Speaker 2: we have evidence for it? You know a lot of people,
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Speaker 2: you know, they're just going to say, oh, it's a nephelim,
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Speaker 2: or it's a you know what we're talking about the
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Speaker 2: bigfoot subject. For me, it's a bigfoot. That's where the
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Speaker 2: big foot n ink from. There's a big footprint. Press
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Speaker 2: dubbed it bigfoot, right, So for me, the bigfoot phenomenon,
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Speaker 2: and I say, let's think bigger about Bigfoot encompasses all
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Speaker 2: these different potential types, whether it's extraterrestrial, ultra terrestrial, terrestrial,
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Speaker 2: you know, if it's a hominin, if it's you know whatever,
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Speaker 2: whatever we're talking about here, it's all of those things.
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Speaker 2: And I think it can be all of those things
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Speaker 2: at the same time. So, you know, and then why
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Speaker 2: why are we seeing them? Are we seeing them because
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Speaker 2: it's it came out of this inner earth cave, or
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Speaker 2: we seeing it because it lives in the woods, or
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Speaker 2: we seeing it because there's a some sort of disruption
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Speaker 2: and electro magnetic field and that particular place, you're at
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Speaker 2: that particular time, and you're seeing through time to an
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Speaker 2: earlier time because time doesn't exist according to quantum physics.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you know, where, what are This
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Speaker 2: phenomenon is huge? I mean it could and the instance
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Speaker 2: of a sighting could have multiple or multiple sources of
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Speaker 2: why you're seeing it at that time, and you don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to interrupt you, but I wanted to
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Speaker 1: point out that of several stories that I'm familiar with,
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Speaker 1: even out of Georgia, Okay, have have traditionally been interpreted
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Speaker 1: as people being attacked or having encounters with bigfoot, a
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Speaker 1: wild man, a sasquatch. But if you go back and
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Speaker 1: you really dig into these stories, like the Okefino attack
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Speaker 1: of the Giant, it's like a giant attack of the
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Speaker 1: ok Swamp eighteen twenty nine, A lot of people just
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Speaker 1: assume that's a bigfoot. There were it's like a clan
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Speaker 1: of bigfoots, But I believe it was a race of humans,
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Speaker 1: like human giants. And a lady named Barb that I've met,
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Speaker 1: she's so sweet. She calls herself the swamp haag or something.
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Speaker 1: She's she's so funny, but she she was. She grew
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Speaker 1: up there at the Okefinoke and she said that it
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Speaker 1: is well known amongst the locals that it's actually were humans.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a sasquad.
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Speaker 2: You know, something we're looking at because we're starting in
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Speaker 2: the southeast, we're starting in the Carolinas, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Florida is going to be its whole. It
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Speaker 2: needs to be its own thing. I think, maybe to
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Speaker 2: a certain extent. But something we've looked at is the
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Speaker 2: connection to Mexico. Do you know the connection to the
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Speaker 2: Aztecs of giants in the southeast.
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Speaker 1: It's that I know, the mounds in the about.
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Speaker 2: Four or five hundred years before the Sukalu story of
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Speaker 2: the giants from the West was recorded by the Cherokee,
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Speaker 2: the Aztec supposedly ran the Quina Meticine out of Mexico
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Speaker 2: and into the American southeast. So you have these giants
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Speaker 2: that are being pushed out of that supposedly helped build
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Speaker 2: like the pyramid at Chilula and Tia Kan and all
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Speaker 2: these places are then pushed out to you know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of them were killed and the few that survived
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Speaker 2: were pushed to the southeastern United States. So suddenly you
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Speaker 2: have the Spanish explorers then coming, you know, four or
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Speaker 2: five hundred years later, and every Spanish explorer's log has
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Speaker 2: encounters with giants, and a lot of them were said
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Speaker 2: to just be they just look like giant Native Americans.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, where did they you know, but again,
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Speaker 2: the Mexican legend was that those giants came out of
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Speaker 2: inner Earth. So I mean all those tribes supposedly came
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Speaker 2: out of inner Earth, but the giants were included in that.
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Speaker 2: So you know, what are the giants? And I mean
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Speaker 2: what is bigfoot? To you? Is bigfoot? Does? Does it
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Speaker 2: have to be more hairy? Less hairy? Is it more
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Speaker 2: ape is less? I mean, that's that's the question. I
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Speaker 2: think we need to really not even think bigger, but
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Speaker 2: also get more specific.
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Speaker 1: You well, we've got this, okay, so this is the
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Speaker 1: go to right. This is like the chart that bigfoot
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Speaker 1: field researchers are like, well there's four kinds, right, Well,
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Speaker 1: I think that there's probably way more different species and categories.
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Speaker 2: And you know, some sort of adaptations. You know. That's
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Speaker 2: why when I look at like love Jeff Meldrum, great stuff.
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Speaker 2: But when you're trying to base whether something's a bigfoot
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Speaker 2: or not based on foot morphology alone, I think that
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Speaker 2: can only be included to certain environments because when you
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Speaker 2: get down it to say, Florida, why would the track
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Speaker 2: of a creature that's adapted to Florida look the same
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Speaker 2: as a tract that's a creature that's adapted to Saskatchewan
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Speaker 2: or something like that. You know, it's not going to
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Speaker 2: be the same biometrics. It shouldn't be, so yeah, I mean,
21:44
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of different types and they
21:46
Speaker 2: probably hybridized in a lot of different ways. You know.
21:50
Speaker 2: Over we're now looking at well, you know, two million years,
21:55
Speaker 2: so it's uh, you know, since a lot of hominants
21:58
Speaker 2: are really sorting split off since we've been around and
22:00
Speaker 2: there were hominants here before us and all this stuff,
22:03
Speaker 2: so that that third one you showed was the more
22:05
Speaker 2: like I think it was type three on that on
22:08
Speaker 2: that list. Yeah, that's actually reconstruction from a guy that
22:16
Speaker 2: wrote the book Them and Us, which was his reinterpretation
22:20
Speaker 2: of what Neanderthal looked like his forensic He had a
22:23
Speaker 2: forensic artist do their own adaptation, because you know, every
22:29
Speaker 2: time we see this in standard scientific literature, it's just
22:34
Speaker 2: like some skinny guy with a pot belly and a
22:37
Speaker 2: spear with a you know, weird face than we have,
22:40
Speaker 2: you know, and that's a Neanderthal, And like I don't
22:44
Speaker 2: that's if you look at the skull comparison to like
22:47
Speaker 2: a human and a Neanderthal skull. It's it's a very
22:50
Speaker 2: different morphology, so they probably looked a lot different and
22:54
Speaker 2: we don't you know, we don't have you don't know
22:57
Speaker 2: what they looked like fleshed out. Of these fossils we have,
23:02
Speaker 2: it's very minimal when it comes to anything hominated or hominine.
23:06
Speaker 1: Hmm. That's point.
23:08
Speaker 2: Not only can we not really reconstruct them properly from
23:13
Speaker 2: a jawbone and some teeth, which is what we have
23:15
Speaker 2: for most of them, but you know, you can't what
23:20
Speaker 2: does that look like fleshed out? That's based on the
23:22
Speaker 2: interpretation of the artists. That's purely speculative in every instance
23:26
Speaker 2: that you see these things, but we take them. We
23:29
Speaker 2: see we open our history books and we're in school,
23:31
Speaker 2: Oh that's what a Neanderthole looks like. Yeah, it probably wasn't.
23:37
Speaker 1: So what wouldn't that be cool if we had Sasquatch
23:40
Speaker 1: and Bigfoot in our school books in the future. I mean,
23:43
Speaker 1: do you ever foresee that happening?
23:47
Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't it be cool to have like
23:48
Speaker 2: a homeschool curriculum, Yeah, based around something that you know,
23:53
Speaker 2: something that we're talking about doing so big in if
23:56
Speaker 2: you go to the big and official on Instagram. You
23:59
Speaker 2: think there's a link in my I squatch me now bio.
24:01
Speaker 2: This is uh my friend Brock who's an actor and
24:05
Speaker 2: an expert wrestler, and we're using him in the documentary
24:11
Speaker 2: for our b Roll camera test. You know, not only history,
24:16
Speaker 2: but something we're looking at is why is Bigfoot blurry?
24:19
Speaker 2: I think that's the number one question I get on
24:22
Speaker 2: my social platforms is with all the great camera phones
24:26
Speaker 2: we have today, welly can't we get a good picture
24:29
Speaker 2: of Bigfoot? So that's what we addressed. This was shot
24:33
Speaker 2: with a six hundred millimeter lens from probably fifty yards
24:36
Speaker 2: and you're talking six hundred milimeter lens. It's about as
24:38
Speaker 2: big as you're gonna get. That's all. You know. That's
24:46
Speaker 2: the shot you want, right, But it's not the shot
24:48
Speaker 2: you're going to get with a twenty four millimeter lens
24:50
Speaker 2: that's on your cell phone, and as soon as you
24:54
Speaker 2: start zooming in on that cell phone, that digital zoom's
24:57
Speaker 2: going to really screw you up. This is basically the
25:00
Speaker 2: kind of lens a nat GEO photographer is going to
25:02
Speaker 2: have in the field.
25:04
Speaker 1: And if not, many of us are going to have
25:06
Speaker 1: that in the field.
25:06
Speaker 2: No, I mean rig I was on, it's a very
25:08
Speaker 2: expensive brick. So if we want the clear footage, if
25:14
Speaker 2: you want that clean shot. Because people watch these documentaries
25:17
Speaker 2: and they see these ridiculous promos that like Apple creates
25:20
Speaker 2: for their phones, and I have one. You know, I'm
25:22
Speaker 2: not hating on Apple, but they put a lot of
25:25
Speaker 2: extra equipment into producing a lot of these uh stuff
25:30
Speaker 2: that they put out as like test footage of their phones.
25:33
Speaker 2: It's just not the right it's not the right tool
25:36
Speaker 2: for the job. There are some now, you know, something
25:39
Speaker 2: I'm going to propose to people is if you really
25:41
Speaker 2: need to figure out a cheap way to use your
25:45
Speaker 2: phone for this kind of stuff, the best thing you
25:47
Speaker 2: probably do is get a spotting scope like eighty bucks
25:49
Speaker 2: on Amazon and usually has a little cradle for your
25:52
Speaker 2: phone that holds up. It's still you know, not going
25:55
Speaker 2: to be six hundred millimeters, but it's going to be
25:57
Speaker 2: better and you'll have a little stable to say, but
26:01
Speaker 2: it's very hard, even if you have your phone, to
26:04
Speaker 2: pull your phone out in the situation and get a
26:08
Speaker 2: clean shot. Oh yeah, especially if it's moving fast. In
26:12
Speaker 2: most of these cases it's moving fast at like one
26:14
Speaker 2: hundred yards away. You know, and they just know, like, hey,
26:17
Speaker 2: that's not a cow. You know, it's not a bear,
26:21
Speaker 2: it's not you know, these are the sightings people get.
26:23
Speaker 2: You don't get, like I had Brock, like walk out,
26:26
Speaker 2: stop all right right there? You know, for that image
26:29
Speaker 2: that you just saw, it took a lot. Even if
26:31
Speaker 2: I was out in the field with that camera set up,
26:34
Speaker 2: if one just runs across the trail, right, it's going
26:38
Speaker 2: to be very hard to get that shot very quickly,
26:41
Speaker 2: you know. So, but you know, this is our first
26:45
Speaker 2: sort of This is like the Mark one suit. We're
26:47
Speaker 2: going to be doing various bigfoot types for different you know,
26:53
Speaker 2: we're not you know, you said that you mentioned the
26:55
Speaker 2: art of the hoax in the synopsis. That's something we're
26:58
Speaker 2: looking at, and it's something that you know, when I
27:00
Speaker 2: was on uh, I was on The Confessionals a while
27:03
Speaker 2: back with Tony and I don't remember if it's on
27:06
Speaker 2: the show or in between. He's talking about how this
27:10
Speaker 2: was like a very controversial subject as far as looking
27:14
Speaker 2: at the hoax aspect of this. But I think we
27:17
Speaker 2: need to look at how hard or easy it is
27:20
Speaker 2: to actually hoax these videos, and so that's part of
27:22
Speaker 2: what we're doing I'm looking at some of the best
27:23
Speaker 2: videos that I've posted, and can we recreate this? You know,
27:29
Speaker 2: can we what would it take to make this, you
27:33
Speaker 2: know video? And if it's doable, then it's doable. And
27:35
Speaker 2: you know, you have to say, at least it could
27:38
Speaker 2: have been hoxed. But there's some videos like the Russian
27:43
Speaker 2: leaping Yetti video sometimes called the Leaping Almaste. Really it's
27:48
Speaker 2: just this giant it looks like a giant chimp just
27:51
Speaker 2: jumping over fallen trees and stuff for like a good
27:54
Speaker 2: probably hundred yards, just running like crazy. It's quadrupedal at
27:57
Speaker 2: some points. That's probably one of the best video. I'm
28:00
Speaker 2: not I've been trying to figure out how to recreate
28:02
Speaker 2: that practically, like with a person in a suit for
28:06
Speaker 2: years now, and it's like, very it's impossible. We've had injuries.
28:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say, I bet it's pretty dangerous to
28:14
Speaker 1: do stuff like that. Thank you so much for that
28:17
Speaker 1: super sticker. I appreciate you and get up so much.
28:19
Speaker 1: Thank you. I would I would assume that it's very
28:23
Speaker 1: dangerous and you can't. Okay. I've worn costumes before, Okay,
28:26
Speaker 1: I used to do theater and stuff and performing arts,
28:29
Speaker 1: and or even just on Halloween. Okay, wearing a mask
28:32
Speaker 1: on Halloween. It's hard to see in a mask or
28:35
Speaker 1: any any kind of suit, right, And I couldn't imagine.
28:38
Speaker 1: I mean, even those people that are like mascots at
28:40
Speaker 1: football games, I can't. I don't understand how they can
28:42
Speaker 1: dance around in those things.
28:44
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, and we're we're also like hiking up
28:47
Speaker 2: hills in that suit. He's you know, he's already six
28:50
Speaker 2: seven over three hundred pounds, and then he's got basically
28:54
Speaker 2: a fur coat on, and you know that giant head
28:58
Speaker 2: piece and these giant feet that I've created, the gover
29:01
Speaker 2: A hair boots. So he's about seven and a half
29:04
Speaker 2: feet right there. But he's got to hike up a
29:06
Speaker 2: side of a mountain in that for us to get
29:08
Speaker 2: shots we need, you know, And it's that's rough, just
29:11
Speaker 2: just that alone. But being able to not trip and
29:14
Speaker 2: like you know, break your neck, come falling back down
29:17
Speaker 2: the mountain just because you can't. You know, the feet
29:19
Speaker 2: are ridiculous, like wearing clown shoes, you know, and then
29:23
Speaker 2: it's hard to see he's got all that hair in
29:24
Speaker 2: his face. He does have an appliance song. So at
29:26
Speaker 2: least it's like you know, flush to his face, but
29:30
Speaker 2: it does affect peripheral vision as well, so it's, uh,
29:36
Speaker 2: you know, it's not an easy thing to do, and
29:38
Speaker 2: being athletic is like almost impossible. So when you see
29:41
Speaker 2: these videos where these things are moving like really fast
29:44
Speaker 2: through even like minimal brush or even a uneven ground,
29:51
Speaker 2: it's that's very very hard to do in a suit.
29:54
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible. So we're looking at that, you know,
29:58
Speaker 2: how hard or easy is it? The fake thing things
30:01
Speaker 2: and try to like bring people version of the different
30:04
Speaker 2: sort of bigfoot types to life through practical effects what
30:07
Speaker 2: you saw there, You know, things get more complicated. That's
30:10
Speaker 2: a basic first suit. Like I said, it's kind of
30:12
Speaker 2: a mark one. But if we wanted to, like you know,
30:14
Speaker 2: a lot of bigfoot encounters they talk about the musculature
30:17
Speaker 2: with like light hair. See through the hair, it's just
30:20
Speaker 2: like a light coat of air. That's a super hard
30:23
Speaker 2: thing to do, you know, It's like it's not something
30:25
Speaker 2: easy to do in digital even with AI. Try to
30:27
Speaker 2: do anything in AI with with hair, it's gonna look
30:30
Speaker 2: a little wonky. You know, it doesn't move right, you know,
30:32
Speaker 2: typically right. And then so what you would have to
30:35
Speaker 2: do is actually create like a muscle suit and punch
30:37
Speaker 2: individual hairs in, you know, paint the suit and punch
30:41
Speaker 2: the hairs and take a long time. It's a lot
30:44
Speaker 2: of work, thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, a.
30:49
Speaker 1: Lot of talent, a lot of talent. Yeah, that that
30:52
Speaker 1: just seems like a lot of work to pull off
30:55
Speaker 1: a hoax. I mean, there's so many bigfoot videos out
30:57
Speaker 1: there today. People, you know, some people just they're all fake,
31:01
Speaker 1: but they're not. You know, I believe that a lot
31:03
Speaker 1: of the videos out there are real. You've got a
31:05
Speaker 1: great archive of some of the best bigfoot videos on
31:09
Speaker 1: your Instagram, on your social media, your TikTok squatch me. Now,
31:14
Speaker 1: y'all go to squatch me now please and I go.
31:17
Speaker 2: Check that out. You'll probably that way.
31:20
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got some great ones though, and it's
31:23
Speaker 1: a it's a great archive. And I also wanted to
31:25
Speaker 1: thank you. I know, I've seen you a couple of
31:26
Speaker 1: videos over the past year or so of like things.
31:29
Speaker 1: I've been like, hey, trade, do you think this is real?
31:31
Speaker 1: There's this ai you know, you're like one, but.
31:35
Speaker 2: I think it always there's I've seen some really good Ai,
31:39
Speaker 2: but there's still some missing, yeah, some soul, there's no
31:45
Speaker 2: So that's really you man, it's it's that, you know,
31:48
Speaker 2: and that's where we're funny enough. That's where we're sort
31:50
Speaker 2: of ending the first six episodes. So each each run
31:55
Speaker 2: will be six episodes about six hours, and each sixth
32:01
Speaker 2: episode will have it'll be sort of a tie all
32:05
Speaker 2: together the type thing. So in the first season, the
32:09
Speaker 2: sixth episode is the Uncanny Valley. So my one of
32:16
Speaker 2: my theories around the Bigfoot subject, and we just call
32:19
Speaker 2: that hominins or you know whatever, is that. You know,
32:27
Speaker 2: most of the ancient folklore is saying that at least
32:29
Speaker 2: some of these things were preying on us, praying on humans,
32:37
Speaker 2: both cannibalizing, if you want to call it that, interbreeding, stealing, kidnapping, whatever,
32:44
Speaker 2: you know. That's that's pretty prevalent in the folk worts.
32:47
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't want to touch the sort
32:49
Speaker 2: of that side of things, but it's and you don't
32:52
Speaker 2: want to live there, you know. There are other aspects
32:54
Speaker 2: to it, but certainly prevalent. So if you look at
32:58
Speaker 2: where civil civilization propped up, it was right along the
33:04
Speaker 2: Zagros Mountains, which is there in Ira. They run on
33:07
Speaker 2: the border of like Iran in Turkey, and so right
33:09
Speaker 2: on the other side of that you have Samaria, Mesopotamia
33:12
Speaker 2: and everything starts cropping up. Like we had to stop
33:15
Speaker 2: here in fortify. We were coming out of Africa, we
33:20
Speaker 2: ran into the Zagros Mountains. Well what the Zagros Mountains
33:22
Speaker 2: were were where we think humans and Neanderthals and other
33:26
Speaker 2: really hominins probably all first encountered each other on their
33:30
Speaker 2: way out of Africa. So to me, it's just interesting
33:33
Speaker 2: that we kind of got backed up there and started
33:37
Speaker 2: building walls around ourselves, and those walls led to agriculture
33:43
Speaker 2: and all the technology we come to today. And then
33:48
Speaker 2: we had the nineteen seventies where this Japanese scientist was
33:54
Speaker 2: doing experiments and robotics and how people responded to different
33:57
Speaker 2: types of robots, and he found that the more human
34:04
Speaker 2: the robot looked, the more uneasy we got about how
34:09
Speaker 2: we felt about that robot. And what that's called is
34:15
Speaker 2: there was a chart which kind of showed our the
34:17
Speaker 2: test subject's response, and it had this huge dip as
34:21
Speaker 2: it got to a certain level of human but wasn't
34:23
Speaker 2: quite human. Once it got to looking fully human, we
34:26
Speaker 2: were okay with it, And when it looked like a
34:29
Speaker 2: toaster or like R two D two, we were okay
34:32
Speaker 2: with it. But when it looked almost human but it
34:34
Speaker 2: wasn't human, we had a real problem with it psychologically.
34:37
Speaker 2: And that's called the uncanny Valley. Was this dip in
34:39
Speaker 2: that graph. And so for me, it's like, is that
34:44
Speaker 2: this ancestral sort of trauma response to things that we
34:52
Speaker 2: encountered leaving Africa that looked human but weren't quite human,
34:57
Speaker 2: that we're preying on us? And if those things were
35:01
Speaker 2: what we met in the Zagros Mountains and made us
35:04
Speaker 2: back up and create civilization, has it now led us
35:08
Speaker 2: back to create AI, which will become the new thing
35:12
Speaker 2: that will prey on us.
35:14
Speaker 1: Oh God, that sounds so ominous, Trey. But you're the.
35:19
Speaker 2: Valley in the Zagros Mountains.
35:22
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean it is. It is really
35:24
Speaker 1: odd when you're around something that's not supposed to exist.
35:27
Speaker 1: First of all, there's something just really off about it,
35:31
Speaker 1: and your your body, with everything inside my body, my gut,
35:36
Speaker 1: you it's honestly, you want to run. It's like God,
35:39
Speaker 1: but most people would want to run. I've never run.
35:42
Speaker 1: I've never ran, Okay, but I'm just saying it's uh,
35:46
Speaker 1: there's just something off when you're seeing something you're not
35:48
Speaker 1: supposed to see. Inna Yes, it looks like a human,
35:50
Speaker 1: but it's not a human, and you know it's not.
35:52
Speaker 2: A human trigger something into you that is jury and real.
35:57
Speaker 2: I mean I really believe that. And again, not all
36:02
Speaker 2: of the folklore is you know, su Klou and Boujiam
36:07
Speaker 2: never really did anything bad to the Jerokee or to
36:12
Speaker 2: the settlers or anything like that. There's no stories of them,
36:15
Speaker 2: you know, cannibalizing them. There are stories, you know, the
36:20
Speaker 2: the Iroquois of stories, you know of those the stone
36:23
Speaker 2: giants that did canniblize and kill them, and they would
36:28
Speaker 2: put out, you know, sacrifices to them and all this stuff, like,
36:31
Speaker 2: you know, to keep them satiated. But you know in
36:35
Speaker 2: those stories there's not. But what's interesting, you know we
36:39
Speaker 2: talk about talk touching on the wood apes to Woo Factor,
36:45
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that's been becoming more viral on
36:48
Speaker 2: the Internet lately. It's the declassification of the telepathy files
36:52
Speaker 2: from the CIA. You know, they did it in twenty nineteen,
36:54
Speaker 2: but it's really only picking up because it was right
36:56
Speaker 2: at the end and there was kind of that big
36:57
Speaker 2: COVID smoke screen when we're talking about it. But all
37:01
Speaker 2: these and telepathy files came out where the successful human
37:06
Speaker 2: telepathy experiments by the Russians and the Americans in the seventies.
37:11
Speaker 2: So if humans are capable of telepathy, were other early
37:19
Speaker 2: hominids capable of telepathy? And if so, is that where
37:23
Speaker 2: we get the wu aspect of this phenomenon known as
37:27
Speaker 2: mind speak. I mean, it's pretty common. I've had people,
37:31
Speaker 2: even witnesses, that told me, like, I don't want you
37:36
Speaker 2: to talk about this, but I heard get out of
37:40
Speaker 2: here in my head, but it wasn't in my voice.
37:42
Speaker 2: And then I saw a tree fall and then this
37:44
Speaker 2: thing walked off into the woods. You know. So, but
37:50
Speaker 2: that's always the thing they don't want you to mention
37:51
Speaker 2: because they don't want to like you know.
37:56
Speaker 1: Tree. I got to tell you when I first the
37:59
Speaker 1: first bigfoot team, I was ever on my original OG
38:02
Speaker 1: team Enigma Research Group. When I first got on that team,
38:07
Speaker 1: I knew that those guys took a whole different approach
38:10
Speaker 1: to bigfooting because they had established that bigfoot surreal They
38:14
Speaker 1: had been going to the same area in North Georgia
38:16
Speaker 1: for decades and studying the ones that were there and
38:21
Speaker 1: trying to communicate with them, and one of two of
38:24
Speaker 1: them actually were very very well trained and burst in
38:27
Speaker 1: remote viewing. And we're talking about like military style remote viewing, right,
38:33
Speaker 1: And so once they invited me to come out there
38:37
Speaker 1: with their team, and we at some point over the
38:40
Speaker 1: years we had this big team come together and uh
38:44
Speaker 1: and we were all taught remote viewing. And it was
38:46
Speaker 1: because part of the reason was communication with the telepathy
38:50
Speaker 1: with the Bigfoots. It was communication with them and even
38:55
Speaker 1: communicating before we go, Like you could have communication. I
38:59
Speaker 1: could have it right now in my house with something
39:01
Speaker 1: that's in the mountains. Okay, hey, I'm coming. I'm coming
39:05
Speaker 1: to see you guys when the moon is full and
39:07
Speaker 1: the leaves are orange, you know. Yeah.
39:13
Speaker 2: What's interesting about sue Kalo is that he was said
39:17
Speaker 2: to be able to control the animals. You know, he's
39:19
Speaker 2: the lord of the game, and but if you really
39:22
Speaker 2: read the legend, he could, and various versions of the legends,
39:25
Speaker 2: there are a few different versions out there. He could
39:29
Speaker 2: actually like you know, the animals just kind of like
39:31
Speaker 2: wandered around him or just stayed outside and would come
39:34
Speaker 2: out pluck one and you know, clean it, and that
39:38
Speaker 2: was dinner or whatever. But he could actually control the
39:41
Speaker 2: minds of the of the game that he wanted, so
39:48
Speaker 2: that being very mind speak telepathy type thing. And even
39:52
Speaker 2: in the legend, it says after he's met the maiden
39:55
Speaker 2: and her mother and he leaves one time, the mother's
39:59
Speaker 2: comp landing that he didn't bring the right stuff or whatever,
40:03
Speaker 2: you know, typical and he he says, it says, now
40:13
Speaker 2: wherever he was, he knew their thoughts. Right, So it's
40:16
Speaker 2: saying that he and what he did was like he
40:18
Speaker 2: brought a tree, but he didn't break it up into firewood.
40:21
Speaker 2: He just brought the whole tree and dropped it, and
40:23
Speaker 2: the mom was mad that he didn't like break it
40:25
Speaker 2: up into firewood. So it says, now, wherever he was,
40:29
Speaker 2: he knew their thoughts. So he comes back the next night,
40:32
Speaker 2: takes the whole tree away and doesn't put anything else back,
40:34
Speaker 2: you know, early early family squabbles. But so that was
40:41
Speaker 2: a story that was interesting, is like we have telepathy
40:43
Speaker 2: being talked about, and it's like now like nine hundred
40:46
Speaker 2: year old Cherokee legend and it's talking about you know,
40:51
Speaker 2: not only him being able to hear you control the
40:54
Speaker 2: animals with his mind, but he can hear the humans thoughts.
40:58
Speaker 2: So my question is, and relating to the Boujeam as well,
41:03
Speaker 2: are they picking mates and controlling these women's mind with telepathy?
41:08
Speaker 2: And that's why the women weren't because the mother was
41:12
Speaker 2: the mother of the Cherokee maiden was never allowed to
41:14
Speaker 2: see him because she would it would scare her way.
41:18
Speaker 2: But the girl was okay with it, you know, the
41:20
Speaker 2: girl was okay with his grotesque features and his you
41:23
Speaker 2: know whatever. So why, you know, why were they and
41:27
Speaker 2: then why was this any girl obsessed with this bigfoot
41:32
Speaker 2: or whatever giant whatever it was. We don't know.
41:35
Speaker 1: He probably kept her warm at night. I'm just saying, fluffy,
41:40
Speaker 1: fluffy and warm. I don't know. Girls, girls, Oh my god.
41:48
Speaker 2: But it's interesting. It's interesting that like were they you know,
41:52
Speaker 2: have lots of the legends of interbreeding with different types
41:57
Speaker 2: of big Foot based on where they were well you know,
42:00
Speaker 2: m K.
42:01
Speaker 1: David Okay, so that I can't put in this picture
42:02
Speaker 1: of because this has always made me giggle every time
42:05
Speaker 1: I see it. It is so funny to me, like,
42:07
Speaker 1: how could a woman actually really want, you know, to
42:11
Speaker 1: have a bigfoot boyfriend. I don't know because most most
42:14
Speaker 1: of the stories we do here are like women being
42:16
Speaker 1: kidnapped and forcibly pro creating with bigfoots if there if
42:20
Speaker 1: they do that right And and so I saw a
42:24
Speaker 1: really interesting presentation. I had the privilege going in here
42:28
Speaker 1: in MK Davis speak at the East Alabama Bigfoot town
42:31
Speaker 1: Hall last year. And uh, and so he spoke live
42:34
Speaker 1: and gave a presentation and it was amazing. But he
42:38
Speaker 1: was talking about how it's of course he he went
42:41
Speaker 1: down the different categories of bigfoot as we know them, okay,
42:44
Speaker 1: and uh, and he was very straightforward, was like, well,
42:48
Speaker 1: you know these different types, like the patty type. I
42:51
Speaker 1: think I believe you said the patty type is for
42:54
Speaker 1: the result of humans and this other and I know
42:59
Speaker 1: that that's like, but the Melburketcham studies and all that stage,
43:02
Speaker 1: it's like the mother's side is human, the father's side
43:06
Speaker 1: is something other.
43:07
Speaker 2: They just don't know what it is, right, Yeah, I
43:08
Speaker 2: mean I think, honestly, I think bubble Ketcham will probably
43:12
Speaker 2: be validated one day, even if it you know, maybe not,
43:16
Speaker 2: but regardless, I think she's on the right track. You know,
43:19
Speaker 2: I think we have the DNA evidence that Neanderthals and
43:25
Speaker 2: humans inner bread. This wasn't that, I don't think. This
43:28
Speaker 2: wasn't the caveman rolling up, you know, the Gico caveman
43:31
Speaker 2: rolling up to the cave and picking up the girl
43:33
Speaker 2: with flowers or something like. Obviously that's not how these
43:36
Speaker 2: things occurred, but it is interesting to me. You know,
43:41
Speaker 2: we're finding now that Neanderthals, Dennis Ovan's and other newly
43:45
Speaker 2: discovered hominids had much larger brains than we do. Their
43:49
Speaker 2: skulls were much bigger, and they were filled with brain,
43:52
Speaker 2: and it was potentially developed in different ways than ours are. Well,
43:56
Speaker 2: if you're a apex predator and what I mean, telepathy
44:03
Speaker 2: would be a great thing to develop, you know, for
44:06
Speaker 2: your brain, if you're if you're you know, adapting and
44:08
Speaker 2: evolving in that way. And we're talking about things that
44:11
Speaker 2: if you're looking at Bergmann's law, where like larger animals
44:14
Speaker 2: are adapting becoming larger and more colder climates, you had
44:19
Speaker 2: hominants coming. We're finding hominants in Europe now that we're
44:22
Speaker 2: probably pre Africa, but if you're talking about you know,
44:25
Speaker 2: in Europe, but if we're talking about ones that came
44:27
Speaker 2: from Africa or other areas southern Europe. They're moving into
44:30
Speaker 2: northern Europe in Asia and adapting to those climates. You know,
44:36
Speaker 2: in the ice age and before, you're dealing with things
44:40
Speaker 2: that are going to adapt in amazing ways physically and
44:43
Speaker 2: mentally to be predators. And they're in a lot of
44:48
Speaker 2: protein and that brain's getting big and powerful. So was
44:52
Speaker 2: it used to create you know, technology, No, but perhaps
44:56
Speaker 2: they're more on a more natural evolutionary path ath than
45:00
Speaker 2: we are. Maybe we'd have already developed telepathy if we
45:04
Speaker 2: hadn't crutched on civilization.
45:06
Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent right actually, and so the okay,
45:11
Speaker 1: so we were all telepathic, everybody, we're born telepathic. We
45:15
Speaker 1: all have the ability to use telepathy and to communicate.
45:18
Speaker 1: And I like to use the example of like, well
45:21
Speaker 1: have you ever thought of somebody and then your phone
45:23
Speaker 1: ring and then it was them? Right, that kind of stuff. Well,
45:27
Speaker 1: we have telephones have replaced telepathy basically. Okay, So that's
45:32
Speaker 1: why it's called a telephone because it's replacing our telepathy.
45:36
Speaker 1: And uh, and so we're it's like a crutch, like
45:39
Speaker 1: you were saying, it's just like something to replace it.
45:42
Speaker 1: So we don't we we pretty much lost. Most people
45:45
Speaker 1: are not in tune with it anymore at all. And uh,
45:48
Speaker 1: and so we kind of have to build those muscles up.
45:50
Speaker 1: Like I do this remote viewing stuff pretty every week.
45:53
Speaker 1: I have a remote viewing target that I talk about
45:55
Speaker 1: on the show on Thursday night because I work out
45:58
Speaker 1: my psychic muscles all the time, you know, I'm constantly
46:01
Speaker 1: doing that. I think it's supported that we all do it,
46:03
Speaker 1: and I encourage everybody to do that. Yeah, psychic skills,
46:07
Speaker 1: because that's what these cryptids are doing. That's how they're communicating,
46:12
Speaker 1: is through telepathy, ets, bigfoot, dogman, everything, you name it.
46:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely think. I mean that's that's the next level.
46:22
Speaker 2: And we just haven't gotten there because we didn't take
46:24
Speaker 2: that path, you know. And so that's that's kind of
46:27
Speaker 2: what we're looking into. As we go through this, we'll
46:29
Speaker 2: piece together more and more of that leading into the
46:32
Speaker 2: final episode. But you know, it's a lot to so
46:37
Speaker 2: let's take concept. That's where we're launching a Kickstarter next month.
46:43
Speaker 2: One of the main things I want to do. I mean,
46:46
Speaker 2: we've shot a lot of all the episodes, but a
46:51
Speaker 2: few more places to go. We want to tie in. Obviously,
46:56
Speaker 2: some of these broader geological and geographical pictures where this
47:02
Speaker 2: all connects, and then really create some beautiful cinematic short
47:06
Speaker 2: films that are basically spliced throughout the documentary. So we're
47:11
Speaker 2: to show those legends in a way. You know, I
47:13
Speaker 2: don't understand, and this is something that I want to
47:16
Speaker 2: talk to someone about. Why is the media avoiding Bigfoot
47:21
Speaker 2: so hard? Like? Why is we don't get It's very
47:25
Speaker 2: suspicious to me. I was thinking about this today. We
47:28
Speaker 2: don't get a lot of high quality Bigfoot content out
47:32
Speaker 2: of Hollywood or any sort of major production houses. Why
47:39
Speaker 2: aren't we? I mean, why are we getting like and
47:44
Speaker 2: let's talk outside of the independent world, why are we
47:46
Speaker 2: getting such like just you know, every once in a
47:48
Speaker 2: while we get tossed one Bigfoot show bone, you know,
47:51
Speaker 2: the tap decent and a lot of other stuff is
47:54
Speaker 2: just sensationalism. And that's fine, it's entertainment. But as far
47:57
Speaker 2: as like a real look at this subject, even UFOs
48:01
Speaker 2: are getting a lot more. I've gotten a lot more,
48:03
Speaker 2: like some more serious looks at the subject, trying to
48:06
Speaker 2: really put it all together. I mean, look at ancient
48:08
Speaker 2: aliens that's been on forever, and that's really tied a
48:12
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. It's brought a lot of great information,
48:16
Speaker 2: you know, together and pulled it all into one place.
48:21
Speaker 2: But Hollywood just avoids Bigfoot. I feel like it's such
48:23
Speaker 2: a big brand. It's free, there's no licensing. It's not Marble,
48:27
Speaker 2: it's not a Marvel character. It's Sasquatch. Nobody owns Sasquatch.
48:30
Speaker 2: You know, it's in public domain. So it seems like
48:32
Speaker 2: such a gold mine for Hollywood to actually put some
48:35
Speaker 2: money in. But nobody really is doing it. So it's
48:39
Speaker 2: very suspicious, I think. I mean, it's very weird. Why
48:42
Speaker 2: why would in Hollywood do it? But you have since
48:46
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six, you've had open CIA operations in Hollywood
48:50
Speaker 2: shaping media.
48:52
Speaker 1: M Yeah, well, you know what. It's okay, So I'm
48:59
Speaker 1: gonna have our our good friend Nick Sylvester on my
49:01
Speaker 1: show next week. Okay, he's coming out on Wednesday, y'all
49:04
Speaker 1: coming back, and and he's got some good insider information
49:07
Speaker 1: on some you know, government involvement with Bigfoot and stuff
49:10
Speaker 1: like that, you know, special agencies, Space Force, you name it.
49:14
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into we get into those conversations
49:17
Speaker 1: when he comes on the show because there is. There's
49:20
Speaker 1: a lot of government involvement in Bigfoot, Okay, and an
49:24
Speaker 1: important UFOs too, right.
49:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you always say we've never found
49:28
Speaker 2: the Bigfoot, I'm like, yeah, we have. I think they
49:32
Speaker 2: like have been told everything. At this point in twenty
49:36
Speaker 2: twenty five, you think you've been told everything by the
49:38
Speaker 2: government that they've got their hands on. We really still
49:41
Speaker 2: think that it's crazy.
49:43
Speaker 1: It's crazy, correct though, That's what it is.
49:47
Speaker 2: It's so big, Like they still don't make big budget
49:49
Speaker 2: UFO movies. I'll make big Is it just the Project
49:52
Speaker 2: Bluebeam tie in? Like they need that? Isn't they need
49:55
Speaker 2: to tell that story for for that eventual agenda or
50:00
Speaker 2: you know why? I mean, what have we gotten? Harry
50:03
Speaker 2: and the Henderson's right.
50:05
Speaker 1: Harry and Henderson's That's right. Well, that's that's a pretty
50:07
Speaker 1: good movie. And at least we got that great movie.
50:09
Speaker 2: But it's like the only serious and it's the only
50:12
Speaker 2: big one.
50:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also well and Trey also, you know, like
50:18
Speaker 1: whenever they interview people like Bless his Heart, is it
50:22
Speaker 1: Tim Peeler that his name out of North Carolina. He's
50:24
Speaker 1: friends with my buddy Don Tarte, who's on my team
50:27
Speaker 1: and uh and so he he was interviewed, and they
50:32
Speaker 1: usually put someone who is stereotypically very you know, country
50:37
Speaker 1: has a you know, I don't want to say country.
50:40
Speaker 1: You know, they make us look like a bunch of rednecks.
50:42
Speaker 1: What it is whenever anybody wants to talk about Bigfoot,
50:45
Speaker 1: and and that's on purpose, that is on purpose so
50:48
Speaker 1: that we all keep our mouths shut about it.
50:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, why though, all your connections, why why
50:56
Speaker 2: don't they Why don't they want us to know about
50:58
Speaker 2: big Foot? Why? I think? And that's what that's what
51:00
Speaker 2: my mission is, is, like why what is the what's
51:04
Speaker 2: the big secret? Right? Why is it so important that
51:07
Speaker 2: if they can touch on everything else? Yeah, I mean,
51:12
Speaker 2: and that's the reason I got this. You know, Quentin
51:14
Speaker 2: Tarantino says, make the movies you want to make. I mean,
51:17
Speaker 2: that's what I'm doing because they don't exist. And I'm
51:20
Speaker 2: don't understand why. I don't know why. I figured somebody's
51:26
Speaker 2: got to want to make bigfoot stuff. But anyway, so yeah,
51:31
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to really show these Like I said,
51:33
Speaker 2: we're doing practical suits for different Bigfoot types. But when
51:36
Speaker 2: we do, like the swamp and that, right, swamp in
51:44
Speaker 2: Georgia story. You know, we'll do a bigfoot type specific
51:48
Speaker 2: based on witness sightings in that area. And I've got
51:53
Speaker 2: a great uh forensic artists work on that with us
52:01
Speaker 2: to sort of reconstruct these different types, and then we'll
52:05
Speaker 2: run molds, and then we'll run appliances, and then we'll
52:08
Speaker 2: have these sort of unique, different big foot types to
52:12
Speaker 2: show about. Everyone that's actually in a it's actually been created.
52:16
Speaker 2: It's not bad cgi, it's not you know AI, it's
52:21
Speaker 2: it's a real, uh, real person in a real suit.
52:25
Speaker 2: A lot of prosthetics and maybe some animatronics.
52:31
Speaker 1: I remember the last time we talked. I think it
52:33
Speaker 1: was the last time you were talking about your your
52:36
Speaker 1: your friend in the bigfoot suit big in right, he's
52:39
Speaker 1: got his on Instagram page. Okay, so you're talking about
52:43
Speaker 1: how how because we're talking about how, you know, people
52:46
Speaker 1: don't always see bigfoots or they can be right out
52:48
Speaker 1: in the open. I remember you telling a story about right.
52:51
Speaker 2: So yeah, tell us about that. Yeah, we were we
52:55
Speaker 2: were doing it wasn't even it was even an early
52:57
Speaker 2: iteration earlier iteration suit, I think. But we we're on
53:04
Speaker 2: a busy street. We just took him out right outside
53:06
Speaker 2: of the We're working at a warehouse at a very
53:09
Speaker 2: busy intersection in Greenville, South Carolina, and we were doing
53:13
Speaker 2: the test makeup, and I was like, let's just walk
53:15
Speaker 2: outside and stand at the road and see what happens.
53:19
Speaker 2: We're talking probably like we've been doing this all day.
53:22
Speaker 2: It's probably four or five o'clock, heavy traffic, and nobody,
53:27
Speaker 2: I would say five percent of people actually maybe saw
53:32
Speaker 2: him standing there. Just stay on the side of the road,
53:35
Speaker 2: giant seven and a half foot tall, bigfoot, and nobody.
53:40
Speaker 2: Everybody's on their phone, they're driving, they're looking ahead, they're
53:43
Speaker 2: looking at the radio, they're zoning out, whatever it might be.
53:49
Speaker 2: But they're not paying attention to what's around them, that's
53:51
Speaker 2: for sure. So imagine if you're flying down the highway,
53:55
Speaker 2: people are probably going, you know, fifteen miles an hour,
53:57
Speaker 2: twenty miles an hour because they're in heavy traffic. Imagine
54:02
Speaker 2: you're going seventy miles down the highway and this thing
54:04
Speaker 2: standing in a tree line, you know, on the side
54:06
Speaker 2: of the interstate and I can see it. You'd never
54:10
Speaker 2: see it, you know. So it's uh, it's you know,
54:18
Speaker 2: it's an interesting thing to study that that aspect of
54:22
Speaker 2: the human condition when it comes to this phenomenon as well.
54:26
Speaker 1: It is and it's just and it but it but
54:28
Speaker 1: it showed you that they can be standing right in
54:31
Speaker 1: front of you. And we talk about this a lot,
54:33
Speaker 1: you know. I do tracking courses and UH and camouflage
54:37
Speaker 1: awareness courses and things like that amongst my team, my teammates,
54:42
Speaker 1: we've been doing it. I haven't done one in a while,
54:43
Speaker 1: but occasionally we'll do those. And it's wild because one
54:48
Speaker 1: person will go out and hide, hide, and the rest
54:52
Speaker 1: of us will have to go search for this person
54:55
Speaker 1: or vice versa. You know, I go hire somebody, they
54:57
Speaker 1: go find trying to find me. And the masters of
55:00
Speaker 1: the camouflage, okay, are the ones that just sit right there,
55:05
Speaker 1: right off the trail, right in front of you, and
55:07
Speaker 1: you just walk right past them and you don't even
55:08
Speaker 1: see them. Yeah, there's an art to that.
55:11
Speaker 2: I can't remember lady's name. There was a story from
55:14
Speaker 2: like nineteen oh eight of a Native American woman which
55:17
Speaker 2: she was young, and she's just walking down a path
55:20
Speaker 2: after picking some Mary's the Pacific Northwest and a hand
55:24
Speaker 2: just comes out from the bushes, grabs her, takes her
55:28
Speaker 2: for you know, I think he put like tree sap
55:31
Speaker 2: over her eyes, which was like a really scary visual
55:34
Speaker 2: to think about. But he put like black tree tarbor
55:37
Speaker 2: her eyes and she couldn't see where she was going,
55:39
Speaker 2: and took her into some cave on some mountaintop and
55:42
Speaker 2: kept her there, got her pregnant, and then she was
55:44
Speaker 2: like basically dying from the pregnancy. So he took her
55:47
Speaker 2: back to her village and she survived or whatever. But
55:50
Speaker 2: I think the bait was still worn but interesting. You know,
55:54
Speaker 2: it was written about in a lot of newspapers and stuff,
55:56
Speaker 2: and she was just photographs of her as an old woman,
55:59
Speaker 2: you know, all telling story saying it was true. But yeah,
56:04
Speaker 2: I mean that really standing still thing, that ability to
56:07
Speaker 2: be really still, I mean it was just another amazing
56:08
Speaker 2: adaptation for a you know, a appex predator, right, you know,
56:13
Speaker 2: and that was what you know, this on top of
56:15
Speaker 2: the mind control aspect of it. You know, they talk
56:17
Speaker 2: about Sue Clu and that race of giants, you know,
56:22
Speaker 2: just snatching up three four hundred pound you know, white
56:26
Speaker 2: tails and snapping their necks with like one hand, you know,
56:29
Speaker 2: throwing them over the shoulder, walking off. I've got a
56:33
Speaker 2: great video on the first videos I posted, I think,
56:36
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people don't think it's great,
56:38
Speaker 2: but I've looked at it pretty closely on a you know,
56:41
Speaker 2: a sixty inch screen in my editing system, and it's
56:45
Speaker 2: clearly some like reddish brown tall. We have like two
56:49
Speaker 2: types in the Carolina's typically that you know, especially in
56:52
Speaker 2: South Carolina. It's like a smaller black chimp looking thing,
56:57
Speaker 2: and then we have a taller, lanky, red haired Uh.
57:01
Speaker 2: It's like kind of the two main type sightings that
57:04
Speaker 2: we get. And this was definitely a tall, lanky, red haired,
57:11
Speaker 2: bigfoot like creature with a conical head and had a
57:13
Speaker 2: buck thrown over his shoulder with a broken neck or
57:16
Speaker 2: you couldn't really tell once I zoomed in. It was
57:18
Speaker 2: you know, it's at twilight, someone's taking on the cell phone.
57:20
Speaker 2: It's walking really far away. But you know, when I
57:24
Speaker 2: zoomed in and did some enhancements, you can definitely see
57:28
Speaker 2: that this deer has a wound on his neck. I
57:30
Speaker 2: would say it's probably a snap neck with a you know,
57:33
Speaker 2: some phone coming through the skin and he's just carrying
57:36
Speaker 2: it over his shoulder through fairly uneven ground and a
57:39
Speaker 2: you know, pretty dense tree line. With all the work
57:44
Speaker 2: we've done so far, I can tell you, like that's
57:46
Speaker 2: not probably gonna at And you're carrying three hundred pounds
57:50
Speaker 2: a deer in your show over your shoulder. You know that.
57:53
Speaker 2: You know? Then you add that to it, and like,
57:55
Speaker 2: you know, at what point does Okham's razor cutting our favor?
57:58
Speaker 2: You know that a skinny looking guy is carrying a
58:03
Speaker 2: three you're on a shoulder, and for no reason, nobody
58:08
Speaker 2: making money off of it. It doesn't have that many views.
58:13
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, I mean, on you too, where
58:16
Speaker 2: the original source was.
58:20
Speaker 1: You gotta have common sense. Your common sense has to
58:23
Speaker 1: kick in at some point. And if people like yourself
58:26
Speaker 1: and you guys doing these experiments and making your own
58:29
Speaker 1: suit and going out and just putting yourselves out there
58:33
Speaker 1: and getting the footage, just creating data basically for the
58:37
Speaker 1: research world, I gotta say, I think that's why those
58:41
Speaker 1: women love the bigfoot guys, because they aren't fierce hunters
58:45
Speaker 1: and they've kept a good and fed.
58:47
Speaker 2: Okay, that was the story of Silkaloes. He kept bringing
58:51
Speaker 2: the deer. He was a great hunter. That's what she
58:55
Speaker 2: was looking for.
58:57
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't we all just looking for a great hunter.
59:00
Speaker 1: Know what I'm just saying.
59:01
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's the trend we're headed
59:04
Speaker 2: back towards.
59:05
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a good thing. I think that's
59:08
Speaker 1: a good thing. We're gonna have to go get our own,
59:11
Speaker 1: our own deer meat and stuff. Now, most people this
59:14
Speaker 1: is great.
59:14
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's if it's well, you know, it's
59:17
Speaker 2: a good kill. It's good.
59:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very good to me.
59:21
Speaker 2: I like some.
59:22
Speaker 1: I like some venison chili and stuff. I eat it.
59:25
Speaker 1: I pretty much eat anything though. And yeah, Nighthawk, we
59:29
Speaker 1: got William Nighthawk in the chat. What's up William? Uh?
59:32
Speaker 1: He says they can make you see what they want
59:34
Speaker 1: you to see, too.
59:37
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean if they was was he making himself
59:42
Speaker 2: prettier with his what was he doing for this? These girls?
59:47
Speaker 2: Where they where are they seeing? You know? It's interesting.
59:51
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty open as far as what
59:54
Speaker 2: the possibilities are. I think it's more interesting to have
59:58
Speaker 2: questions than it is now answers, you know, chasing questions
1:00:03
Speaker 2: that we may never get the answers to. That's really
1:00:05
Speaker 2: the it's really the journey we're on. I don't think
1:00:08
Speaker 2: we're necessarly gonna get the answers. And if you're all
1:00:11
Speaker 2: about just having answers, it's not gonna be a great
1:00:16
Speaker 2: time for you. I think in this world of research,
1:00:19
Speaker 2: just keep digging, you're going to find another hole. You know,
1:00:22
Speaker 2: it's chasing the dragon, but it's fun. You know, you're
1:00:27
Speaker 2: expanding your mind. There's so many things about the subject
1:00:30
Speaker 2: that I think we're better for having it in our lives.
1:00:36
Speaker 2: You know, it can inspire a lot of different you know,
1:00:39
Speaker 2: whether it's being outdoors, spending more time in nature, you know,
1:00:46
Speaker 2: getting more fit so you can be out in nature
1:00:48
Speaker 2: and chase Bigfoot, you know, exploring more technology, human origins,
1:00:54
Speaker 2: all their history, historical research that you can do. Life's
1:00:57
Speaker 2: a lot more interesting with Bigfoot of it. If it
1:01:02
Speaker 2: can't hurt. You know, so sad that people just want
1:01:05
Speaker 2: to turn it off because they don't even want to
1:01:06
Speaker 2: think about it's not true. Yeah, there's a lot of
1:01:11
Speaker 2: people though, there's a lot of people to go to them.
1:01:14
Speaker 1: But you know, Trey, I'm seeing that it's way more
1:01:18
Speaker 1: accepted today. You know, I started doing my Bigfoot field
1:01:20
Speaker 1: research back in twenty eleven, and and I kept it
1:01:23
Speaker 1: a secret. I didn't tell anybody. For ten years, my
1:01:27
Speaker 1: few friends that knew, and I had a lot of
1:01:29
Speaker 1: friends back then, okay, but but they would make fun
1:01:32
Speaker 1: of me and thought it was crazy. Of course, they
1:01:34
Speaker 1: thought it just lined up with me, my personality at
1:01:37
Speaker 1: the time, you know. But but they thought it was
1:01:39
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. And I did get made fun of
1:01:41
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and so I didn't And I worked
1:01:43
Speaker 1: in government too, so I just told people I was
1:01:46
Speaker 1: going camping. I didn't think I was chasing a big,
1:01:50
Speaker 1: a big hairy bigfoot through the woods, you know, every
1:01:53
Speaker 1: time i'd go out. But it's way more widely accepted
1:01:57
Speaker 1: now than it was back then.
1:01:59
Speaker 2: Well it's I mean, I think people need, I mean
1:02:02
Speaker 2: enjoy it. It can add a lot to your life,
1:02:04
Speaker 2: just chasing or any you know, any sort of mystery.
1:02:08
Speaker 3: It's uh, it is it is, Oh, go ahead, you
1:02:16
Speaker 3: know a lot of great things.
1:02:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:02:21
Speaker 1: Adolf Adolph has an interesting point here. He says at
1:02:23
Speaker 1: Court Right Reservation, he lives in California, by the way,
1:02:26
Speaker 1: and has had big foot activity dog man. He's an
1:02:30
Speaker 1: encounter dog man, and he's got a documentary on his
1:02:33
Speaker 1: experience called ten eleven oh two, where he and his
1:02:36
Speaker 1: two buddies were camping and they had an alien abduction
1:02:39
Speaker 1: experience too. It's it's wild there, California is wild. Oh
1:02:44
Speaker 1: my gosh, with all the activity. Okay, a court right reservation.
1:02:47
Speaker 1: As we height, we found a deer with a head
1:02:50
Speaker 1: that was twisted backwards. Neck was broken, no blood at all.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: It was between two builder builders. Also, two legs were broken.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: I guess boulders. Probably two legs were broken. As we
1:03:03
Speaker 1: looked at it better, I mean, could it could have
1:03:07
Speaker 1: been a bigfoot, probably a dong man or something?
1:03:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. I guess I would ask if I
1:03:13
Speaker 2: was investigating that site, would be like could it have
1:03:16
Speaker 2: fallen from somewhere and land between older that's what did
1:03:21
Speaker 2: But not knowing any more than that, how would you know? Right?
1:03:25
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean I definitely think they actually
1:03:29
Speaker 2: did the math on protein from an average sized white
1:03:35
Speaker 2: tailed deer, like what how much protein that would produce?
1:03:38
Speaker 2: And what would something that, you know, say you had
1:03:41
Speaker 2: a pod of five at seven to eight hundred pounds
1:03:44
Speaker 2: each just averaging year, like what would the how long
1:03:49
Speaker 2: would a deer feet? I mean I think it came
1:03:50
Speaker 2: out to about you know, like one deer day. If
1:03:52
Speaker 2: they got one deer day, a pot of like five
1:03:54
Speaker 2: big foot at like eight hundred pounds each would be
1:03:57
Speaker 2: living all right. You know, wow, on like what should
1:04:01
Speaker 2: be your average protein gold, you know for human like creature,
1:04:08
Speaker 2: so gram to two grams per down body weight? I think.
1:04:13
Speaker 2: So all they need to get is a deer day
1:04:15
Speaker 2: and you feed like five of those guys.
1:04:18
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never even thought about that. But
1:04:20
Speaker 1: you know, like a bear would eat a bunch of
1:04:22
Speaker 1: food in the spring and summer and then hibernate right
1:04:24
Speaker 1: and throughout the winter, or eat a bunch of food
1:04:26
Speaker 1: I guess in the fall, so we could hibernate throughout
1:04:29
Speaker 1: the winter. But yeah, bigfoots, they seem to come out
1:04:33
Speaker 1: all year long. You know, today I was out in
1:04:36
Speaker 1: the woods. It's it's still winter, right, so there was
1:04:41
Speaker 1: something out there. I mean, I'm not going to say
1:04:44
Speaker 1: it was bigfoot, but this is where we get a
1:04:45
Speaker 1: lot of big foot activity out there. And it's a
1:04:48
Speaker 1: great time to be out in the woods right now.
1:04:50
Speaker 1: It is not deer season season out there anymore, I
1:04:53
Speaker 1: don't believe, and and so it's a little bit safer
1:04:56
Speaker 1: to go out in the woods right now. But nonetheless,
1:04:59
Speaker 1: you are your costume that you guys have with bigan.
1:05:03
Speaker 1: I would not recommend taking him out there in the
1:05:06
Speaker 1: woods where we go because there could be somebody out
1:05:08
Speaker 1: there that might shoot him.
1:05:10
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, we've been shooting on private land for most
1:05:15
Speaker 2: of the b roll type stuff for that reason, to
1:05:18
Speaker 2: avoid him getting shot. We can tell everybody in the
1:05:22
Speaker 2: area we're out filming. You know, it's unfortunate because I
1:05:28
Speaker 2: feel like with the you know, the amount of equipment
1:05:30
Speaker 2: that's gonna that's out there, you know, someone would be
1:05:35
Speaker 2: so stupid to shoot him. I mean, we're obviously filming.
1:05:37
Speaker 2: The lens I'm using is like three feet long, but
1:05:41
Speaker 2: you know, you never know, someone might just get him,
1:05:46
Speaker 2: So we do have to be careful with.
1:05:48
Speaker 1: That for sure. We just had a question, see where
1:05:53
Speaker 1: did it go? I think someone was asking about I
1:05:58
Speaker 1: can't find it now, okay, but it was about is
1:06:01
Speaker 1: there a connection between bigfoot and UFOs? I think was
1:06:04
Speaker 1: the was the question? Or there's a statement maybe because
1:06:08
Speaker 1: you know, whenever I've been out in the field from
1:06:09
Speaker 1: the very first time, I don't know if there was
1:06:13
Speaker 1: a direct connection to the UFOs and the bigfoots, but
1:06:15
Speaker 1: there were UFOs in the environment when we were having
1:06:17
Speaker 1: big foot activity. So is that something that you have
1:06:21
Speaker 1: thought about covering on your docuseries or for sure?
1:06:25
Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah. You know, there are cases of
1:06:31
Speaker 2: Bigfoot being seen coming out of UFOs. You know, people
1:06:35
Speaker 2: will immediately equate that to Bigfoot having been the pilot
1:06:39
Speaker 2: of the UFO or Bigfoot were pilots of the UFO.
1:06:43
Speaker 2: But you know, if they're abducting humans and cows and
1:06:46
Speaker 2: elk and everything else, why wouldn't they abduct a bigfoot?
1:06:53
Speaker 2: But what is the UFO? You know, here we go again,
1:06:55
Speaker 2: like what at this point? You know, what even is that?
1:07:00
Speaker 2: You know what where we where are we going with that?
1:07:04
Speaker 2: So there's you know, well definitely, you know that's definitely
1:07:07
Speaker 2: where we're looking into that when it comes up. And
1:07:12
Speaker 2: then you know, when we're looking at sort of the
1:07:14
Speaker 2: larger conspiratorial aspects of all of this, because it's all
1:07:19
Speaker 2: tied in and like you know, I was getting at
1:07:20
Speaker 2: earlier with like the TV shows like are they I
1:07:24
Speaker 2: would love to talk to some people that have been
1:07:25
Speaker 2: on those for like long term, and I doubt they
1:07:29
Speaker 2: would even know or even necessarily we have realized if
1:07:33
Speaker 2: it was, but especially if they weren't on a high
1:07:36
Speaker 2: level of the production. But to what extent is that
1:07:40
Speaker 2: being shaped by intelligence? You know, are those scripts having
1:07:47
Speaker 2: to go through the CIA, Hollywood office or whatever? You know,
1:07:53
Speaker 2: like how are they? Then we get into things like
1:07:59
Speaker 2: UFOs and Bigfoot and other phenomenon link monsters, all that
1:08:06
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I've been thinking a lot lately about
1:08:08
Speaker 2: dinosaur ghosts. There's this meme about I'm going to go
1:08:13
Speaker 2: to bed early tonight and then the person's up looking
1:08:16
Speaker 2: at their phone like googling why don't the ghosts or
1:08:21
Speaker 2: something like that. I really got me thinking about NeSSI
1:08:26
Speaker 2: and energetic portals. You know, we talked about a little
1:08:32
Speaker 2: bit earlier about the thinning of the veil and are
1:08:36
Speaker 2: they sort of electromagnetic anomalies that create these things? And
1:08:41
Speaker 2: if you look at like lay line maps, they intersect
1:08:44
Speaker 2: right in front of lockness. There's two lay lines that
1:08:47
Speaker 2: intersect right front of lockness. Which is interesting because we
1:08:51
Speaker 2: know body that bodies of water have been seen as
1:08:55
Speaker 2: portals quite a bit for USO's UFOs and other things.
1:09:01
Speaker 2: So if we're looking at quantum physics and the recent
1:09:06
Speaker 2: sort of discoveries that are kind of telling us that
1:09:10
Speaker 2: you know, time doesn't exist, or as we perceive it,
1:09:13
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, and it's all happening at once. Are
1:09:16
Speaker 2: there disruptions in time or in time space where we're
1:09:22
Speaker 2: we're just at the right place at the right time.
1:09:24
Speaker 2: We're seeing through the veil, and maybe that's why we're
1:09:27
Speaker 2: seeing all these different things occur, you know, all these
1:09:31
Speaker 2: different phenomenon in the same place at the same time.
1:09:34
Speaker 2: Miss the veil is just then and we're seeing a
1:09:35
Speaker 2: lot of different dimension time, I mean, all the timelines,
1:09:41
Speaker 2: all these different things, different times on our timeline. I
1:09:48
Speaker 2: think that explains so much in regards to ghost ships
1:09:54
Speaker 2: and you know, all these different You know, there's a
1:09:57
Speaker 2: bigfoot that's seen in a castle in Scotland all the time,
1:10:02
Speaker 2: but it's basically a gray haired giant and that castle
1:10:07
Speaker 2: is also kind of right there in that lockness lay
1:10:09
Speaker 2: line intersection. So what impact we're having all the solar storms?
1:10:16
Speaker 2: We know, like tonight we have a planetary alignment, right,
1:10:18
Speaker 2: a big planetary yea, what is all this? How is
1:10:21
Speaker 2: all this kind of thing? How does it affect our reality?
1:10:25
Speaker 2: We know our entire reality is basically electromagnetic, right, we
1:10:29
Speaker 2: know we only see like what one I think point
1:10:33
Speaker 2: zero zero three five bubble, you know, some ridiculously small
1:10:38
Speaker 2: number of the visible like spectrum is what we actually
1:10:41
Speaker 2: perceive as human beings. I feel like there's a lot
1:10:46
Speaker 2: more going on, and maybe there's just certain times where
1:10:49
Speaker 2: the conditions are right for us to see these different
1:10:53
Speaker 2: things occurring maybe occurring all around us all the time,
1:10:57
Speaker 2: you know, and it's.
1:10:58
Speaker 1: Just we just don't see it that moment. I think
1:11:03
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. And uh, and I want
1:11:07
Speaker 1: to go back to the ghost thing that you said,
1:11:09
Speaker 1: because I I have experienced this myself. Okay, Well, first
1:11:15
Speaker 1: of all, there's a very famous video that was on
1:11:18
Speaker 1: TikTok and all of our social media is called the
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Fort Pierce dog Man, and it was a fella named Blue.
1:11:25
Speaker 1: He was on his phone. He was on his phone
1:11:27
Speaker 1: on a Facebook live and he was freaking out. He
1:11:31
Speaker 1: was he was smoking like cigarettes and stuff, and he
1:11:34
Speaker 1: was like, y'all, you won't believe what I just saw
1:11:38
Speaker 1: in my yard. And he goes, I'm just going to
1:11:41
Speaker 1: open up the door and show you and see if
1:11:43
Speaker 1: it's out there. Yes, yeah, it was a street laup.
1:11:50
Speaker 1: He opened up the door and it looked like to
1:11:52
Speaker 1: me it looked looked like the ghost of a dog man.
1:11:54
Speaker 1: It was like transparent, you kind of see it. Well,
1:11:58
Speaker 1: it started making me question and like Aret cryptos, can
1:12:02
Speaker 1: they be ghosts too? Like are there ghosts? Are they
1:12:04
Speaker 1: just interdimensional? Like what is going on with that?
1:12:07
Speaker 2: You know, like because you know our ghosts, we have
1:12:11
Speaker 2: the residual energy aspect of that. You have the sort
1:12:14
Speaker 2: of like intelligent haun things you have, you know, things
1:12:20
Speaker 2: that may just be a peak through the veil. You know,
1:12:24
Speaker 2: it's just we're just seeing through at that particular time
1:12:28
Speaker 2: something that's maybe happening in that time in this time,
1:12:33
Speaker 2: because there is no time right right, So yeah, and
1:12:37
Speaker 2: then you know you have the residual residual energy aspect
1:12:40
Speaker 2: of ghost thing, which I think is interesting. There was
1:12:42
Speaker 2: a pool hall in Hollywood where these investigators basically put
1:12:47
Speaker 2: sound recorders in this old pool hall overnight and they
1:12:52
Speaker 2: got the sound of pool balls clacking, and they tried
1:12:55
Speaker 2: to reproduce the sound with modern pool balls and the
1:12:58
Speaker 2: sounds didn't match, so they had to go get it
1:13:00
Speaker 2: antique ivory set of poolballs, played a game and the
1:13:03
Speaker 2: sounds match. So you have that residual energy where they're
1:13:06
Speaker 2: just like pool balls cracking for you know, decades, and
1:13:11
Speaker 2: it's one place and there's like frequencies which just like
1:13:13
Speaker 2: embedded themselves in the structure. It seemed like, you know,
1:13:19
Speaker 2: but then you have things about the inter dimensional. You
1:13:21
Speaker 2: have things that are like I said, possibly just peeking
1:13:25
Speaker 2: through the veil into another time. I think in some
1:13:28
Speaker 2: cases it's just you know, it's thin right there and
1:13:31
Speaker 2: you're just seeing something else, you know. I've I have
1:13:36
Speaker 2: an aunt and uncle that owned a really old Antebellum
1:13:40
Speaker 2: plantation home that they bought. It wasn't in our family.
1:13:43
Speaker 2: They're retired teachers with no kids, so they had some
1:13:46
Speaker 2: money and they it was like a dream thing they
1:13:48
Speaker 2: wanted to do. It was like a money pit. So uh,
1:13:52
Speaker 2: but that place is super haunted and you hear people
1:13:54
Speaker 2: walking around. You'll be there by yourself, you'll hear people
1:13:58
Speaker 2: walking around all the time. Like literally look searching the house.
1:14:01
Speaker 2: You know, nobody's there, there's nobody's car there. You know,
1:14:04
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out. But again, the graveyards right
1:14:07
Speaker 2: behind the house, and everybody that ever lived in the
1:14:08
Speaker 2: house is buried in that graveyard. So I think some
1:14:13
Speaker 2: places just have Yeah. Uh, Also, what are there energetic
1:14:22
Speaker 2: things that it can occur in those places that open
1:14:24
Speaker 2: that that veil, you.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: Know, yes, portals well, and what I'm finding a lot
1:14:30
Speaker 1: of haunted places I go. There's a lot of ritualistic
1:14:33
Speaker 1: stuff going on there. And if it's a plantation, there
1:14:36
Speaker 1: was because you got to bring you don't have to,
1:14:38
Speaker 1: but I I like to look at every angle of stuff.
1:14:42
Speaker 1: And if it's a plantation, there might have been some
1:14:44
Speaker 1: sort of slavery potentially going on there, or people that
1:14:48
Speaker 1: may have practiced some sort of okay so there, so
1:14:52
Speaker 1: there must have been some maybe some form of like
1:14:55
Speaker 1: voodoo hoodoo stuff going on or some sort of realistic stuff.
1:15:00
Speaker 2: There's cabins. I went out to the cabins. They were
1:15:02
Speaker 2: used with slaved quarters at one point, and they were
1:15:04
Speaker 2: used for moonshine stills at another point. And you could
1:15:07
Speaker 2: read like cattle prices because they had like insulated the
1:15:10
Speaker 2: walls with old newspapers and read cattle prices through like
1:15:14
Speaker 2: hundreds of like one hundred years of cattle prices on
1:15:16
Speaker 2: the walls. But there was that. There was also it
1:15:19
Speaker 2: was also used as a union and Civil war or
1:15:22
Speaker 2: union in Confederate hospital at different points. So a lot
1:15:25
Speaker 2: of people died there in the Civil War, So yeah,
1:15:29
Speaker 2: I think probably those you know, those kinds of situations
1:15:31
Speaker 2: you can have places where there's a lot of energy
1:15:36
Speaker 2: going on.
1:15:39
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of a lot of energy too, I actually
1:15:41
Speaker 1: did an investigation up in Tennessee this past year and
1:15:45
Speaker 1: we got called out to a couple's home who had
1:15:47
Speaker 1: just bought this cabin sight unseen in a land that
1:15:51
Speaker 1: belonged to the Chalcthaw Native Americans, and it had a
1:15:55
Speaker 1: cave on behind their house, like thirty feet from their
1:15:58
Speaker 1: back door. There was a cave in. There were multiple
1:16:01
Speaker 1: cave entrances, and and there's voices coming caves and a
1:16:07
Speaker 1: lot of high strangeness, let's just say. And things were
1:16:12
Speaker 1: creepy for the couple for a while. And it got
1:16:14
Speaker 1: really bad when their chickens started going missing and they
1:16:18
Speaker 1: got upset and they had you know, sasquatch like figures
1:16:21
Speaker 1: and dog man like figures on their cameras outside of
1:16:23
Speaker 1: their house and h and they called me and our friends.
1:16:28
Speaker 1: We came up there for an investigation. A big old
1:16:32
Speaker 1: team of us went up there, and we didn't get okay.
1:16:36
Speaker 1: There was a whole lot of there was a lot
1:16:37
Speaker 1: of activity going on there. But the most interesting thing
1:16:41
Speaker 1: that happened was, you know, we talked about ghosts, We
1:16:44
Speaker 1: talked about could there be maybe even things tied to
1:16:47
Speaker 1: the land, you know, but she elemental spirits and she
1:16:53
Speaker 1: she didn't she didn't know what the real history of
1:16:56
Speaker 1: that land was until she did some digging after they
1:16:58
Speaker 1: started having paranormal activity. She found out that that land
1:17:01
Speaker 1: was chalk tawl In and a shaman, a medicine man
1:17:06
Speaker 1: had banished multiple let's just say s Walkers, Okay, because
1:17:10
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, you don't say that word
1:17:12
Speaker 1: too often, right, S Walker's into that cave behind her house,
1:17:16
Speaker 1: and it was widely known. Yeah, but she just didn't
1:17:20
Speaker 1: know until they moved there, and so we had to
1:17:24
Speaker 1: We went to go do an investigation of what was
1:17:26
Speaker 1: taking her chickens, and you know, if we could find
1:17:28
Speaker 1: some tracks or just whatever we could find to try
1:17:31
Speaker 1: to help the family out and maybe try to try
1:17:34
Speaker 1: to seal it up or do. I don't know what
1:17:36
Speaker 1: we were going to do, honestly, if we had come
1:17:37
Speaker 1: across some of that stuff, but it was a lot.
1:17:41
Speaker 1: And when we got there, Farah is their name, and
1:17:45
Speaker 1: Farah had like an SLS camera. I took my ghost
1:17:48
Speaker 1: hunting equipment too. I usually take it on bigfoot trips
1:17:51
Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, you use the same kind of
1:17:55
Speaker 1: equipment across all the different, you know, types of investigations.
1:18:00
Speaker 1: We got there and she had an SLS camera. And
1:18:02
Speaker 1: for people who are listening or watching, if you don't
1:18:05
Speaker 1: know what an SLS camera is, it's if you watch
1:18:08
Speaker 1: Ghost Adventures or you know, the ghost Hunter shows. It
1:18:11
Speaker 1: looks like it's called kinetic, some kind of kinetic. You
1:18:16
Speaker 1: could use it like on your PS five or your
1:18:18
Speaker 1: PlayStations and stuff. It maps out your body. Yeah, it
1:18:23
Speaker 1: looks like you look like a stick figure. Okay. So
1:18:26
Speaker 1: it picks up what looks like stick figures in the camera,
1:18:29
Speaker 1: and if there's a ghost there, it's gonna look like
1:18:32
Speaker 1: a stick figure, okay. And so we're hanging out at
1:18:36
Speaker 1: the entrance of the cave at some point one of
1:18:38
Speaker 1: those nights that we were out there, and we had
1:18:42
Speaker 1: the SLS camera going, and I had to rimpod out there,
1:18:45
Speaker 1: and and a rimpod is just something with like a
1:18:47
Speaker 1: little antenna and at beeps off, something gets close to
1:18:50
Speaker 1: it and we're watching it SLS camera and we're recording
1:18:53
Speaker 1: it Pharaoh was recording it in a gigantic A giant
1:18:57
Speaker 1: came crawling out of the cave and I had two
1:19:00
Speaker 1: little figures with it too, And the little figures were
1:19:02
Speaker 1: crawling down the side of the cave and the big
1:19:05
Speaker 1: one just came through a hole like a cavern, and
1:19:08
Speaker 1: it looked had horns on its head, and it literally
1:19:11
Speaker 1: looked like something off of a petroglyph or a hiroglyph
1:19:15
Speaker 1: or some kind of glyph that's in a cake cave
1:19:17
Speaker 1: that has like a large giant with horns on its head.
1:19:21
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like. And so we started thinking, well,
1:19:24
Speaker 1: is this another dimension? Is there a threshold right here
1:19:27
Speaker 1: like at the mouth of the cave, or is it
1:19:29
Speaker 1: a ghost or what is it?
1:19:33
Speaker 2: I don't physical.
1:19:35
Speaker 1: It was just no, you could just see it through
1:19:37
Speaker 1: the sols. I mean, it was a really weird feeling.
1:19:40
Speaker 1: It was really odd. Yeah, but it interacted with us,
1:19:44
Speaker 1: all three of them did Wow.
1:19:47
Speaker 2: What was the interaction?
1:19:50
Speaker 1: Well, the two little ones were jumping on the rim
1:19:53
Speaker 1: pod and spinning around the antenna and like they were
1:19:56
Speaker 1: dancing on it and stuff. We actually had the video.
1:19:59
Speaker 1: I have just seen a link to all the videos.
1:20:01
Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah, yeah, they left at some point
1:20:06
Speaker 1: they went back and they crawled back into the cave
1:20:08
Speaker 1: and left.
1:20:09
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Yeah, and we have to consider just I
1:20:14
Speaker 2: mean and not necessarily in that case, but just in
1:20:16
Speaker 2: general when it comes to all these various creatures. You know,
1:20:20
Speaker 2: we're finding that Inner Earth is one of the like
1:20:25
Speaker 2: least explored places on the planet, but it exists, and
1:20:29
Speaker 2: it's huge. You know, there's oceans there, there's probably huge caverns.
1:20:34
Speaker 2: I mean, they could be whole, massive ecosystems underneath those,
1:20:39
Speaker 2: you know, under underneath the crust that we live on,
1:20:42
Speaker 2: I mean, basically a whole in the world. And then
1:20:45
Speaker 2: I may ie you just what is the sort of
1:20:49
Speaker 2: internal sun that we have in our own planet? What
1:20:51
Speaker 2: is the core? You know, the electro magnetic force and
1:20:54
Speaker 2: energy fields created a core of our own planet doing
1:20:58
Speaker 2: to warp that veil in Inner Earth if you get
1:21:04
Speaker 2: closer to it geologically, is that affecting reality anyway? You know?
1:21:10
Speaker 2: Is that opening portals under in the cave? I mean,
1:21:13
Speaker 2: the cave is a huge metaphor throughout you know, philosophy
1:21:17
Speaker 2: if you will, and human folklore. But is there something
1:21:22
Speaker 2: to that, I mean, scientifically, is there any precedent that
1:21:25
Speaker 2: could be seeing there. There could be a lot of
1:21:30
Speaker 2: stuff could be coming out of inner Earth, a lot
1:21:33
Speaker 2: of stuff.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: It could be. Now, William Nighthawk says, he says frequency
1:21:37
Speaker 1: and vibration attracts cryptid activity and cemetery and graveyards. Now,
1:21:41
Speaker 1: I actually consulted with William before I went to that
1:21:44
Speaker 1: s Walker Cave to get information, like of just some
1:21:47
Speaker 1: consultation on what to do when we encounter things like that,
1:21:51
Speaker 1: and how to protect ourselves if we can, and things
1:21:54
Speaker 1: like that. And it was it was pretty wild. But
1:21:57
Speaker 1: he came up. He was on my show last week
1:21:59
Speaker 1: and we were talking this week actually, and we were
1:22:03
Speaker 1: talking about why cryptids are so like bigfoot in dog
1:22:07
Speaker 1: Man for instance, they're seemed so often around cemeteries and
1:22:12
Speaker 1: sacred land. And he had the most interesting explanation for
1:22:15
Speaker 1: that and said that even after the body dies, it
1:22:19
Speaker 1: still emits a frequency, and those Bigfoots and the dog men,
1:22:24
Speaker 1: whatever is out there, they're attracted to that, and so
1:22:26
Speaker 1: they want to go kind of harness that energy even
1:22:29
Speaker 1: after birth.
1:22:30
Speaker 2: That's interesting. There's going on there. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah,
1:22:37
Speaker 2: you know, I think at some point in the adaptation
1:22:42
Speaker 2: of it, you know, larger organisms that the humanoid form
1:22:48
Speaker 2: is optimal for terrestrial existence. If you look at Dale
1:22:53
Speaker 2: Russell's dynosroid hypothesis. He was a famous uh paliontologists in
1:23:00
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties, and you know, he took this
1:23:05
Speaker 2: one small, like three foot tall raptor type dinosaur and
1:23:09
Speaker 2: hypothesized that if it hadn't died, which it technically shouldn't
1:23:14
Speaker 2: have because it's fed on small mammals that we know
1:23:17
Speaker 2: didn't die in the mass dinosaur extinction, that it would
1:23:22
Speaker 2: have evolved into something that looked a lot like a
1:23:25
Speaker 2: reptilian or somewhere. His forensic reconstruction is somewhere between a
1:23:29
Speaker 2: reptilion and a gray alien. So if you give them
1:23:35
Speaker 2: be crazy and give him twenty million years to evolve
1:23:38
Speaker 2: into that, they still have forty million years to mess
1:23:42
Speaker 2: around on the planet and leave the planet come back,
1:23:45
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, figure out everything we've never figured
1:23:48
Speaker 2: out and never will go. Maybe I would give those
1:23:51
Speaker 2: sort of So that's he sort of posits this amazing
1:23:55
Speaker 2: precedent for reptilians, and then you know, if you think
1:24:00
Speaker 2: about it in that sense, you know what other types
1:24:05
Speaker 2: of organisms could have evolved into something bipedal, you know,
1:24:12
Speaker 2: OK nine type ancestor. Perhaps for dog man. I tend
1:24:16
Speaker 2: to think that perhaps, you know, I think we saw
1:24:18
Speaker 2: a type four on that big those big foot types
1:24:20
Speaker 2: she put up, and it looked kind of like a baboon.
1:24:24
Speaker 2: There was a baboon, large baboon ancestor that stood pretty tall,
1:24:28
Speaker 2: I think about six feet that was called dinopithecus. Yeah,
1:24:33
Speaker 2: that one on the bottom right, And you know, it
1:24:38
Speaker 2: kind of looks like a dog, right, So if that
1:24:39
Speaker 2: was tall and walking up right, it kind of has
1:24:42
Speaker 2: a dog like snout. So I think some dog man
1:24:44
Speaker 2: accounts the Beast of Seven Shoots to me, looks a
1:24:48
Speaker 2: lot like a large bipedal Dinopithecus would look like after
1:24:54
Speaker 2: a few million years of evolution into something more humanoid.
1:25:00
Speaker 2: But you know, you could have had a canine too.
1:25:01
Speaker 2: I mean, they've been around for a long time, canines,
1:25:04
Speaker 2: and I believe like a lot of whales have similar
1:25:08
Speaker 2: a similar comedy ancestor, which is interesting when you think
1:25:11
Speaker 2: about how they communicate and that they travel in packs basically.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, I mean I think, uh, there's a
1:25:22
Speaker 2: lot of stuff out there that we don't know. I
1:25:25
Speaker 2: just gonna stay on the.
1:25:26
Speaker 1: Hunt, right on the hunt, man, I'm always I'm always
1:25:29
Speaker 1: on the hunt looking for the I'm up against the
1:25:33
Speaker 1: masters of the hunt, though, do you think I'm ever
1:25:35
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, I get some pretty good activity when
1:25:38
Speaker 1: I'm out there, you know, we usually do good as
1:25:41
Speaker 1: some pretty good activity. But I'm up against the best
1:25:45
Speaker 1: when I'm out there. So but you see, yeah, well
1:25:51
Speaker 1: I'm not would that's right. But you know, I have
1:25:56
Speaker 1: been trained pretty extensively in psychic ability and stuff like that,
1:26:01
Speaker 1: so I I haven't I have an edge and uh,
1:26:04
Speaker 1: and I am very fully aware spiritually of how important
1:26:08
Speaker 1: spirituality is when it comes to communicating with cryptids as well,
1:26:12
Speaker 1: and about having your mind right, your spirit right, your
1:26:18
Speaker 1: your whole body, your health right, so that your body
1:26:21
Speaker 1: is vibrating on a higher frequency because you're more likely
1:26:25
Speaker 1: to encounter them and to communicate with them if you've
1:26:28
Speaker 1: got a high vibe, high vibe tribe. Yeah, yeah, at
1:26:33
Speaker 1: least that's what I mean. They're probably not there's got
1:26:36
Speaker 1: to be Oh no, they're low vibe, man.
1:26:41
Speaker 2: The higher vibe the vibes probably want to come suck
1:26:45
Speaker 2: you right.
1:26:47
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's in everyday life. That's humans too. Right, right,
1:26:56
Speaker 1: that's my favorite word. My friend Barry's in the chat
1:26:58
Speaker 1: right now.
1:26:59
Speaker 2: He does.
1:26:59
Speaker 1: He always laughs when I say loosh. It's a thing though,
1:27:02
Speaker 1: that's what the reptilians live off of, right, I.
1:27:06
Speaker 2: Mean they're making a lot of negative energy. It seems
1:27:09
Speaker 2: to be for something.
1:27:10
Speaker 1: Oh well, there's I think that everything in our environment
1:27:15
Speaker 1: right now, like the news, let's say the news media,
1:27:17
Speaker 1: like mainstream media. I don't watch TV hardly at all
1:27:20
Speaker 1: at all, Like I'm too busy, don't even watch TV.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: But when I do, it's so depressing. It's like ever
1:27:28
Speaker 1: since we were kids, you know, like you turn on
1:27:30
Speaker 1: the TV and it's like homicides and who is nothing good?
1:27:35
Speaker 1: Like it's nothing good?
1:27:36
Speaker 2: You know, it's not you know, I think about this
1:27:38
Speaker 2: all the time. It's not And it's why I got
1:27:41
Speaker 2: into what I got into and working in pretty it's
1:27:47
Speaker 2: a pretty high level people in Hollywood for a while.
1:27:51
Speaker 2: I've worked on some pretty big projects. And it's not meant.
1:27:59
Speaker 2: It's a powerful tool. It's not the tool's fault. It's
1:28:02
Speaker 2: the people that are. You know, the tool is powerful,
1:28:06
Speaker 2: it can be the media can be used for a
1:28:08
Speaker 2: lot of good. You know, it's I think that's what
1:28:11
Speaker 2: a lot of us are trying to do, is use
1:28:13
Speaker 2: it for more high vibe stuff. But it's a lot
1:28:18
Speaker 2: of people a lot easier to keep people in control
1:28:22
Speaker 2: when you're pushing a low vibe through the media and
1:28:24
Speaker 2: you can even see that, you know, they've changed the
1:28:26
Speaker 2: frequency that music is made at. So and of course,
1:28:32
Speaker 2: you know visuals or powerful, I mean, it's you're watching TV.
1:28:37
Speaker 2: It's basically sigil magic, really high level sigil magic.
1:28:41
Speaker 1: Emojis. I just thought that emojis are like high level
1:28:46
Speaker 1: sigil magic too. I never knew that.
1:28:49
Speaker 2: And spelling words, you know, it's all. I'm sure you've
1:28:52
Speaker 2: looked into doctor emotos. Work with water where you put
1:28:56
Speaker 2: different you know, water words on water files, thought shaped
1:29:02
Speaker 2: always you know what is that where preying over your
1:29:05
Speaker 2: food came from? Yeah, change the sort of energetic structure
1:29:14
Speaker 2: before you eat it, and take a.
1:29:16
Speaker 1: Curse off of it too. I mean, I don't look
1:29:19
Speaker 1: at potlucks the same anymore. I mean, with my family
1:29:22
Speaker 1: it's one thing, but.
1:29:23
Speaker 2: Going to the last couple of holiday seasons, I feel
1:29:27
Speaker 2: like it's like not wanting to eat other people's food.
1:29:30
Speaker 2: I'm not sorry, even if they weren't even if they
1:29:34
Speaker 2: weren't cooking like putting rat poison in it, you know,
1:29:37
Speaker 2: or were they in a bad mood where they stress.
1:29:39
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
1:29:44
Speaker 2: I grew up in the church, so I had to
1:29:46
Speaker 2: like eat, you know, do that every Sunday basically, and
1:29:49
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, and.
1:29:51
Speaker 1: People people letting their caps up on the on the
1:29:53
Speaker 1: table and like getting there in their catsurrel dish while
1:29:56
Speaker 1: they're cooking. And I know, I'm not trying to gross
1:29:59
Speaker 1: everybody out to y'all, I'm sorry, but you gotta yeah
1:30:02
Speaker 1: to think about that kind of stuff.
1:30:03
Speaker 2: Right, Trey, Yeah, I mean just that, and then we've
1:30:06
Speaker 2: got you know, I just saw something about someone they
1:30:09
Speaker 2: sent me something about the black takeout containers or like
1:30:13
Speaker 2: really they're made from like recycled like computer keyboards, probably
1:30:17
Speaker 2: full of graphine and stuff. You know, they're full of
1:30:19
Speaker 2: all these talks. It's like you get anything. And I
1:30:22
Speaker 2: was like being into fitness and that kind of thing.
1:30:25
Speaker 2: It's like I don't order from them personally because I
1:30:28
Speaker 2: cook all my own food, but like the food prep
1:30:30
Speaker 2: places are all putting their food prep meals out these
1:30:35
Speaker 2: black plastic containers, and they've probably been promoting them as
1:30:38
Speaker 2: being like a recycled We recycle. We use recycled containers,
1:30:40
Speaker 2: but they're recycled from really toxic stuff. And you're like
1:30:44
Speaker 2: heating up this food and the radiation machine and this
1:30:49
Speaker 2: your old computer keyboard, uh black to go container. So yeah,
1:30:56
Speaker 2: we're being poisoned on all ends. We really got to
1:31:01
Speaker 2: get back to being more like Sasquatch, and I really
1:31:05
Speaker 2: think that I'm that's we squatching now. You know, the
1:31:09
Speaker 2: documentaries are a big piece of it for me. But
1:31:12
Speaker 2: I'm working with an artist named Nicko Bizarro out of Australia.
1:31:15
Speaker 2: He's sort of my art director right now and actually
1:31:18
Speaker 2: did this as a piece of branding sticker. We don't
1:31:22
Speaker 2: have the Tumblr yet. It's just a sticker, but it's
1:31:25
Speaker 2: we're doing some new merchant and sort of some rebranding
1:31:29
Speaker 2: and sort of trying to expand this more into a
1:31:32
Speaker 2: lifestyle brand based around the concept of living more like
1:31:38
Speaker 2: Bigfoot or more like a relative prominent, releted human. How
1:31:43
Speaker 2: can we get back to sort of like organic minimalism,
1:31:48
Speaker 2: I guess you might say, and even within this world
1:31:51
Speaker 2: that we find ourselves, how can we can still we
1:31:54
Speaker 2: still adapt that to the gym, You can still adapt
1:31:57
Speaker 2: that to the grocery store if you have to, you know,
1:31:59
Speaker 2: not everybody. We're not going to go out and necessarily
1:32:01
Speaker 2: hunt deer with spears, you know, but how can we?
1:32:05
Speaker 2: You know, there's a famous quote that says, walk not
1:32:10
Speaker 2: in the footsteps the masters, but seek what they saw.
1:32:13
Speaker 2: And I think that that's really kind of like how
1:32:16
Speaker 2: can we? You know, when people describe Bigfoot, most of
1:32:19
Speaker 2: the time, you know, they're talking about something that's very athletic,
1:32:24
Speaker 2: very lean. You know, they're probably eating a lot of protein,
1:32:29
Speaker 2: wild berries, wild herbs. These are the things that we fight.
1:32:35
Speaker 2: You know. If you look at even like the average
1:32:40
Speaker 2: migration distance daily for an early hunter gatherer, you're talking
1:32:45
Speaker 2: about the same amount of steps that doctors are telling
1:32:50
Speaker 2: people to take today, Like ten thousand steps a day
1:32:53
Speaker 2: equates to approximately the mileage of a hunter gatherer. So
1:32:58
Speaker 2: we really need to go back and look at like
1:33:00
Speaker 2: how we're pre civilization crutch people living. Because the more
1:33:05
Speaker 2: we crutch on civilization, the more that perpetuates itself. That's
1:33:08
Speaker 2: why people are sixty years old on fifty medications and
1:33:13
Speaker 2: you know all the problems. You know, you know, we've
1:33:18
Speaker 2: got to get back to a more natural lifestyle. But
1:33:23
Speaker 2: how can we we have to hybridize that because we're
1:33:25
Speaker 2: not going backwards, So how can we hybridize that into
1:33:31
Speaker 2: you know, being more in touch with nature. You know,
1:33:33
Speaker 2: still incorporate the technology, but do it in a healthy way.
1:33:36
Speaker 2: Still incorporate you know, fitness, food, meditation, telepathic, spiritual, mental exercise,
1:33:48
Speaker 2: all these kinds of things. So that's sort of the
1:33:50
Speaker 2: broader scope. And when it comes to the education aspect,
1:33:55
Speaker 2: we're looking at some content tailor specifically for kids might
1:34:01
Speaker 2: bring BigGAN into that might not. But you know, some
1:34:06
Speaker 2: YouTube presence that's just tailored specifically for kids, but focused
1:34:11
Speaker 2: around Bigfoot, and how can we educate So I don't know,
1:34:15
Speaker 2: I think your kids a little bit older. I have
1:34:17
Speaker 2: a four year old, and the content out there for
1:34:20
Speaker 2: these kids is so annoying, and I feel like we
1:34:26
Speaker 2: can do some really great stuff with sort of the
1:34:29
Speaker 2: Bigfoot archetype and you know, teach make it very educational
1:34:36
Speaker 2: and still fun. And you know, uh, do you have
1:34:41
Speaker 2: that picture of my son in the back of the
1:34:42
Speaker 2: truck with with Diggan.
1:34:45
Speaker 1: Is that your son?
1:34:47
Speaker 2: Yeah? He loves it. He uh, he loves Bigfoot. And
1:34:52
Speaker 2: you know, we take these we take Bigging out to
1:34:55
Speaker 2: festivals and events all the time. We were at blurry
1:34:59
Speaker 2: Con and the Westminster Bigford Festival. You've been to the
1:35:03
Speaker 2: American Bigfood Festival. If anybody wants Bigger at your event,
1:35:07
Speaker 2: please let me know. We'll try to put it on
1:35:10
Speaker 2: the schedule for twenty twenty five. But kids just you
1:35:16
Speaker 2: just see it on their face and they're like they're
1:35:18
Speaker 2: very few are scared, which is very interesting to me.
1:35:21
Speaker 2: Very few kids are scared. He'll pick up little babies,
1:35:25
Speaker 2: tiny little babies, They'll let them hold. The kids love
1:35:28
Speaker 2: this stuff. You just know they're going to go to
1:35:29
Speaker 2: school and tell everybody they met Bigfoot that weekend, you know.
1:35:34
Speaker 2: So I think it's fun for them, and it's a
1:35:35
Speaker 2: great venue. It's a great sort of way to tap
1:35:40
Speaker 2: into kids and teach them a lot of stuff. So
1:35:43
Speaker 2: that's sort of another aspect of the sort of greater
1:35:46
Speaker 2: lifestyle brand we're working on, sort of bring these sort
1:35:50
Speaker 2: of ideas to a larger group. And not everybody may
1:35:53
Speaker 2: be interested in all aspects of it, but I think
1:35:55
Speaker 2: they'll they can find interest in the broader scope of
1:35:59
Speaker 2: the subject and different lifestyle stuff.
1:36:04
Speaker 1: Well, kids are kids are all about Bigfoot right now,
1:36:07
Speaker 1: and and you know, I'd mentioned earlier that back when
1:36:09
Speaker 1: I first started big footing back in twenty eleven, it
1:36:13
Speaker 1: was not mainstream. People weren't talking about it. It was
1:36:16
Speaker 1: a very undercover type of a thing. I was doing
1:36:19
Speaker 1: okay when it came to all this, and never in
1:36:22
Speaker 1: a millionaire though I'd go public. But now, you know,
1:36:24
Speaker 1: you go to places like I always use the example
1:36:26
Speaker 1: of Chihaw, Alabama, Chiahaw. I guess it's a state park
1:36:31
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but to go and there's like a
1:36:34
Speaker 1: little guard a guard shack, or like a house where
1:36:37
Speaker 1: you go check in to go, you know, if you
1:36:38
Speaker 1: want to get a camp site or whatever. And you
1:36:41
Speaker 1: walk in there and it's wall to wall Bigfoot memorabilia.
1:36:45
Speaker 1: It's like plushies and key chains and magnets, stickers for
1:36:48
Speaker 1: your car, you name it, t shirts, shorts, pajamas, it's
1:36:52
Speaker 1: all Bigfoot everything.
1:36:56
Speaker 2: We need to make the it's the time for this
1:36:59
Speaker 2: community need to really like step up and make it
1:37:03
Speaker 2: not silly. You know. It doesn't mean that it can't
1:37:08
Speaker 2: be fun. It doesn't mean that it can't be fun,
1:37:12
Speaker 2: but it's time for the sort of a higher level approach.
1:37:15
Speaker 2: I think to this concept and with the UFO thing,
1:37:21
Speaker 2: disclosure coming whatever, however that's gonna play out, and everything
1:37:25
Speaker 2: else going on, I think people are gonna be much
1:37:27
Speaker 2: more open. And You're definitely right. And I've been into
1:37:29
Speaker 2: this since I was a baby, so I mean I've
1:37:33
Speaker 2: been getting ras for like in this kind of stuff
1:37:35
Speaker 2: my whole life. But it's totally worth it. Such a
1:37:40
Speaker 2: fun thing to chase subject matter wise. So yeah, I
1:37:48
Speaker 2: mean I had a a UFO citing at nine, and
1:37:52
Speaker 2: that woke me up to a lot of possibility. You know,
1:38:00
Speaker 2: I still know what it was. It's a big dark disc,
1:38:04
Speaker 2: but you know what, h But that made me just
1:38:09
Speaker 2: realized there was a lot going on in this world
1:38:10
Speaker 2: that most people weren't tapped into.
1:38:14
Speaker 1: Wow, you started young, You're You're like me. Actually, when
1:38:17
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, I used to sit down
1:38:19
Speaker 1: in my front yard. I lived on a farm, and
1:38:22
Speaker 1: I would look for UFOs at night all the time.
1:38:25
Speaker 1: I mean I was I think I was trying to
1:38:26
Speaker 1: get them to come pick me up, take me home.
1:38:35
Speaker 2: It's been a I think I really probably early two thousands,
1:38:40
Speaker 2: I really, I mean obviously my whole life I was
1:38:43
Speaker 2: in the Bigfoot, but probably started doing the heaviest research
1:38:47
Speaker 2: probably too early two thousands, and then I got a
1:38:50
Speaker 2: little I really enjoyed, uh legend meat science, that book
1:38:56
Speaker 2: and then the documentary that followed. I just got to
1:39:00
Speaker 2: really burn out on the whole Gigantopithecus hypothesis, which I
1:39:03
Speaker 2: feel it's like still to this day, like every like
1:39:10
Speaker 2: larger production that you do get documentary wise on these things,
1:39:14
Speaker 2: History Channel, whatever, that's always like I hear that I
1:39:18
Speaker 2: have to hear Gigantopithicus at least twenty times in that show.
1:39:21
Speaker 2: It's like, why is that even it's not even that likely?
1:39:26
Speaker 2: I mean it's not with all the potential, Uh it
1:39:31
Speaker 2: could be possibly one hypothesis for one type, but there's
1:39:38
Speaker 2: just like so little to go on with that whole lot.
1:39:40
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why that particular thing is pushed. I
1:39:43
Speaker 2: think it's almost like it's the least likely and that's
1:39:46
Speaker 2: why they push it so far. I Mean, most descriptions
1:39:49
Speaker 2: I feel like, are not that at least what we
1:39:55
Speaker 2: think it was. And even with that, that's something we
1:39:57
Speaker 2: had what we have some teeth on in a Chinese
1:39:59
Speaker 2: you know, medicine shop, maybe a jawbone. Now for the
1:40:03
Speaker 2: whole gigantopithecus, you know thing, which is what we have
1:40:07
Speaker 2: with most But I'm just not sure why it's prioritized
1:40:09
Speaker 2: in the media. I don't know if it's just parenting
1:40:13
Speaker 2: what's been said now for thirty years or longer. I
1:40:22
Speaker 2: think what I.
1:40:23
Speaker 1: Actually think that it is see tree. Not everybody has
1:40:27
Speaker 1: been immersed in Bigfoot like you and I have. And
1:40:31
Speaker 1: maybe it's just so mainstream that a lot of people
1:40:34
Speaker 1: just don't believe in Bigfoot at all. There's no way
1:40:37
Speaker 1: Bigfoot could exist, and so maybe that's just like the
1:40:40
Speaker 1: gateway into getting people wrapped around it.
1:40:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but there's just new I mean, there's
1:40:46
Speaker 2: just newer discoveries and newer routes I think to take,
1:40:50
Speaker 2: and that one's been around for a long time. But
1:40:52
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, it's it's a way to
1:40:54
Speaker 2: introduce it. But again, that's where I'm getting to is
1:40:56
Speaker 2: like I think, like, Okay, we get it, we get it,
1:41:01
Speaker 2: that's a possibility. What else is there? Let's look at it,
1:41:04
Speaker 2: Let's look at some other things, because a lot of
1:41:06
Speaker 2: a lot of sighting accounts don't really fit that description
1:41:09
Speaker 2: in any way. And I don't think that based on
1:41:12
Speaker 2: the timeline when that supposedly lived to say, the Patty
1:41:18
Speaker 2: Siding people, you know, I hear that a lot in docs.
1:41:21
Speaker 2: It's you know, maybe this evolved into this in ten
1:41:26
Speaker 2: thousand years. Like that's not how quickly these things work,
1:41:29
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't doesn't happen quite that fast. So
1:41:35
Speaker 2: and Patty, I don't even think is that. You know,
1:41:40
Speaker 2: maybe for a female, I think that might be uh
1:41:46
Speaker 2: an interesting you know shape. But you know a lot
1:41:49
Speaker 2: of people, you know, you get this, like what she
1:41:53
Speaker 2: A lot of people talk about it. She probably had
1:41:54
Speaker 2: young nearby? You know, is that a post pregnancy belly?
1:41:58
Speaker 2: Is she does she have young and she's pregnant? It
1:42:00
Speaker 2: is that due to do big foot that big foot
1:42:03
Speaker 2: type have a higher level of GH? Do they have
1:42:06
Speaker 2: more growth harmony? It would make sense that bigfoot would
1:42:09
Speaker 2: have higher growth hormone releases, you know in their body.
1:42:13
Speaker 2: If you look at bodybuilders that have that big gut,
1:42:16
Speaker 2: those big ab guts, like it's like a dead gut
1:42:19
Speaker 2: but with like abs on it. That's from like them
1:42:21
Speaker 2: shooting up way too much GH. So big could some
1:42:27
Speaker 2: bigfoots have that? You know from that uh too much?
1:42:33
Speaker 2: You know a lot of GH just causing that in
1:42:36
Speaker 2: their system. Uh, I don't know. There's a lot of
1:42:39
Speaker 2: interesting stuff to look at with the biology of what
1:42:45
Speaker 2: genetically you know, triggers, hormonal things and all this other
1:42:50
Speaker 2: stuff that would create a big foot like creature. Are
1:42:51
Speaker 2: they hired in testosterone that would create more body here? Right?
1:42:57
Speaker 2: We can't you know, we can't reverse engineer this with
1:43:00
Speaker 2: a specimen. You know, we can't look at that specifically.
1:43:03
Speaker 2: I'm sure someone's done it, but you know, we just
1:43:09
Speaker 2: have to kind of look at humans and think about
1:43:11
Speaker 2: what that would be that would be right.
1:43:14
Speaker 1: I have been told that they look more like a
1:43:17
Speaker 1: human than anything once they're once they're stripped down. Let's
1:43:21
Speaker 1: just say you just took all the hair. If they
1:43:23
Speaker 1: didn't have any hair on them, just looked like gigantic humans.
1:43:27
Speaker 1: Going back to the beginning of the show tonight, we
1:43:29
Speaker 1: were talking about, well, what's seating a giant in a sasquatch?
1:43:32
Speaker 3: Right?
1:43:33
Speaker 1: Hair?
1:43:33
Speaker 2: Right? Hair? There's more body here? But sometimes are right
1:43:38
Speaker 2: in Like even in medieval folklore and that kind of stuff,
1:43:42
Speaker 2: there were some that were a little bit hairrier than others.
1:43:45
Speaker 2: And if we're talking about ill really, you know, I
1:43:49
Speaker 2: said earlier, there was we were talking about how to
1:43:51
Speaker 2: create a suit. A lot of times the descriptions, you know,
1:43:55
Speaker 2: the light's hitting them just right. You can see straight
1:43:58
Speaker 2: through the hair right on their body, so you know,
1:44:01
Speaker 2: it's a very very light. Hair is just longer than
1:44:04
Speaker 2: like the average hairy human. I mean, there's some really
1:44:07
Speaker 2: hairy dudes, you know, some really hairy guys. If that
1:44:10
Speaker 2: hair was like long and straight, you know, and then
1:44:14
Speaker 2: what's the The other thing is what's the thing with
1:44:17
Speaker 2: the bigfoot hair? Because we've seen the borphology is different
1:44:23
Speaker 2: than human or any other animal. You know, there's not
1:44:27
Speaker 2: a dueler right in a lot of bigfoot hair is
1:44:29
Speaker 2: a missing centerpiece.
1:44:32
Speaker 1: Sochlororophyl chlorophyll is another component to their hair as well.
1:44:37
Speaker 2: Interesting.
1:44:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the samples, I mean, our team has
1:44:42
Speaker 1: gotten samples and I've had my we have a wildlife
1:44:45
Speaker 1: biologist on one on my team's he's actually on pretty
1:44:48
Speaker 1: much all the same teams that I'm on. Okay keys
1:44:50
Speaker 1: on there, He's been on my show, and he has
1:44:53
Speaker 1: examined some hair samples that we've obtained and h and yeah,
1:44:58
Speaker 1: I think I believe there's some chlorophyll in the hair,
1:45:00
Speaker 1: and of course oil oil globules. I saw that always
1:45:03
Speaker 1: comes up.
1:45:04
Speaker 2: The oil is very interesting because you know, hairs are
1:45:07
Speaker 2: connected to the nervous system and they're just basically antenna
1:45:10
Speaker 2: for electrical signals. You know, if you get spooked, you know,
1:45:13
Speaker 2: they stand up on your arm. So is there any
1:45:17
Speaker 2: relevance to the difference in bigfoot hair myphology and how
1:45:21
Speaker 2: it reacts to the nervous system Potential camouflage. I mean,
1:45:27
Speaker 2: if you're covered in that hair and you can there's
1:45:30
Speaker 2: something today called optical camouflage where there's basically, like you know,
1:45:34
Speaker 2: militaries are developing fibers that react to electrical signals and
1:45:41
Speaker 2: reflect the environment around them, creating essentially like a mirror
1:45:45
Speaker 2: effect type of camouflage, which is you know, you have
1:45:50
Speaker 2: the whole predator people relating seeing things in the woods
1:45:53
Speaker 2: to predator. Well, you know that could very well be
1:45:59
Speaker 2: one heck of a Gilli suit if it was just
1:46:01
Speaker 2: you know, optical camouflage. Individual threads that are like reacting
1:46:05
Speaker 2: to a nervous system command if you will, that's telling
1:46:09
Speaker 2: it to reflect its surroundings. You know, we're talking about
1:46:15
Speaker 2: Inner Earth. If there's ones that live in Inner Earth,
1:46:18
Speaker 2: are they is there any sort of like you know,
1:46:22
Speaker 2: microorganisms that are bioluminescent that are living in their eyeballs
1:46:27
Speaker 2: that make their eyes glow at night. You know, you
1:46:30
Speaker 2: see hear about this eye shine but sometimes which we
1:46:34
Speaker 2: can relate to other animals we know, but we also
1:46:36
Speaker 2: hear about an eye glow. And you know, obviously if
1:46:41
Speaker 2: you're living in dark places under ground, it might be
1:46:46
Speaker 2: beneficial to have that. And we have found like biluminescent
1:46:49
Speaker 2: bacteria and deep in some really deep caves. So and
1:46:54
Speaker 2: we know that we have bacteria in our own eyes.
1:46:56
Speaker 2: So we you know, if you like look the right
1:46:58
Speaker 2: way into the sun, sometimes as you can like see
1:47:00
Speaker 2: them like floating or you know, get those little you
1:47:04
Speaker 2: can see it almost like from a like a microscope.
1:47:08
Speaker 2: So are we do they have these sort of symbiotic
1:47:12
Speaker 2: relationship with bioluminescent microorganisms that live in their eyeballs, and
1:47:17
Speaker 2: that was what calls the eye glow when they come
1:47:18
Speaker 2: out from the cave at night, you know, nocturnally.
1:47:23
Speaker 1: Oh that that is I've never even thought of that before.
1:47:26
Speaker 2: And I'm really trying to find the people that I
1:47:29
Speaker 2: can talk to for this doc series. It's been very
1:47:32
Speaker 2: hard to get people that would be able to talk
1:47:35
Speaker 2: about these kinds of ideas.
1:47:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I got people for you. I got some in
1:47:41
Speaker 1: the chat right now that I know personally that would
1:47:43
Speaker 1: have a great conversation with you about this.
1:47:45
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm trying to look at you know,
1:47:48
Speaker 2: obviously anybody that's an investigator research on the subject would
1:47:52
Speaker 2: love to talk to. But you know, I'm mostly talking
1:47:55
Speaker 2: about like evolutionary biologists that could actually be willing to say,
1:47:59
Speaker 2: for speculative standpoint, it could happen, you know, where it
1:48:04
Speaker 2: couldn't happen. You know, I'm fine with either answer. I'm
1:48:06
Speaker 2: not trying to have the answers. I have all the
1:48:09
Speaker 2: questions and I want to see it. Talk to people
1:48:11
Speaker 2: who can talk to me about those questions. You know,
1:48:15
Speaker 2: it's just about the discussion and sort of a thought.
1:48:17
Speaker 1: Experiment's thinking outside of the box, and that's what we
1:48:20
Speaker 1: do here on this channel. That's what I've always done,
1:48:23
Speaker 1: think outside of the box. You know, nobody's thinking about
1:48:27
Speaker 1: these things. I mean, I'm sure there are people that
1:48:29
Speaker 1: are thinking about it. I mean we think I think
1:48:30
Speaker 1: about eyeshine, eye glow, eye glow all the time. I've
1:48:34
Speaker 1: seen it, I've experienced it, As a matter of fact,
1:48:37
Speaker 1: I've been really busy. I go speak at bigfoot events
1:48:40
Speaker 1: like all the time. And last weekend I was at
1:48:42
Speaker 1: the East Alabama Bigfoot town Hall down in Opealaika, and
1:48:46
Speaker 1: and a good friend of mine, flat Rock flat Rock
1:48:49
Speaker 1: Wood Boogers, was there. He spoke along with Tyler Howell,
1:48:53
Speaker 1: and you might know Tyler and flat Rock actually, but
1:48:57
Speaker 1: he showed us some videos from his property. He's got
1:49:01
Speaker 1: a house on some land out in South Alabama kind
1:49:05
Speaker 1: of and and he he was sitting up, he was
1:49:08
Speaker 1: setting up baby monitors around the outside of his house
1:49:12
Speaker 1: and inside the windows of his home because he was
1:49:14
Speaker 1: getting harassed by this family of bigfoots that live on
1:49:17
Speaker 1: his property, like a whole bunch of bigfoots, and they
1:49:19
Speaker 1: would just sit there and bring on his house at
1:49:21
Speaker 1: night and watch him and his mother you name it,
1:49:25
Speaker 1: and his wife, you know. And he has all these
1:49:28
Speaker 1: videos that he showed us of their eye glow and
1:49:31
Speaker 1: even pictures of like him talking to people outside and
1:49:35
Speaker 1: his camera would pick up pictures and they didn't see
1:49:38
Speaker 1: it in the background, but there were the bigfoots were
1:49:40
Speaker 1: like behind them while they were talking, just sitting there
1:49:42
Speaker 1: staring at them. And their eyes were just glowing. It's wild.
1:49:46
Speaker 1: That's that's some of the best. I mean, it's so
1:49:48
Speaker 1: much evidence because there's so many videos of it.
1:49:51
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Alabama's famous for the white thing, and
1:49:54
Speaker 2: you know that's sort of chunk going up into Kentucky
1:49:59
Speaker 2: and beyond and even some of the most cavernous areas.
1:50:04
Speaker 2: You know, lots of cabins, lots of caves in that
1:50:07
Speaker 2: part of the world. I mean a lot of the
1:50:09
Speaker 2: cars is right there, so you would definitely, I mean,
1:50:15
Speaker 2: a white bigfoot would definitely be indicative of something that's
1:50:18
Speaker 2: living underground too. And I have a lot of uh
1:50:21
Speaker 2: sightings of white ones Tennessee where there's a lot of caverns,
1:50:26
Speaker 2: Kentucky where there's a lot of caverns, Pennsylvania, other So
1:50:30
Speaker 2: it's very interesting. And you know, talking about tying sort
1:50:34
Speaker 2: of just making correlations. It doesn't have to be a
1:50:37
Speaker 2: direct biological tie. But there's a famous I don't know
1:50:43
Speaker 2: if he knows, but Malta, the island of Malta was
1:50:45
Speaker 2: supposedly built by giants.
1:50:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, with my friend. I have a friend from Malta
1:50:51
Speaker 1: actually that I did a show on Space Radio with
1:50:53
Speaker 1: her and we talked about it.
1:50:56
Speaker 2: Well. Louise Jessup was a British woman that went to
1:51:00
Speaker 2: Malta in the early nineteen hundreds and wasn't basically stumbled
1:51:05
Speaker 2: upon the story of these missing school children. These kids
1:51:10
Speaker 2: went on a little trip. They were investigating one of
1:51:13
Speaker 2: the temples there that there's a lot of evidence to
1:51:18
Speaker 2: show that they were sacrificing people to something in those
1:51:22
Speaker 2: temples that had these huge caverns underneath them. And so
1:51:31
Speaker 2: these school children just went missing, and with their teachers,
1:51:34
Speaker 2: they all went down there in a field trip that
1:51:35
Speaker 2: went down to the cabins that went missing. British woman
1:51:39
Speaker 2: Louise Jessup is down there and runs into the story
1:51:43
Speaker 2: and ends up going down to that same cavern and
1:51:47
Speaker 2: she's just got the candlelight but supposedly saw these giant,
1:51:53
Speaker 2: white haired, bigfoot like creatures that were like she said
1:51:57
Speaker 2: she thought they were like blind, acting kind of like
1:52:00
Speaker 2: they were blind, but they were like grasping out. And
1:52:06
Speaker 2: the story has some pretty significant I mean, they've confirmed
1:52:11
Speaker 2: that she was there, she was in Malta, she was
1:52:13
Speaker 2: a real person. They've talked to people that interviewed her
1:52:16
Speaker 2: later in life. It's a very interesting story. But just
1:52:19
Speaker 2: showing some maybe correlations between these creatures living in caves
1:52:23
Speaker 2: and what sort of physical adaptations might be for that.
1:52:29
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
1:52:31
Speaker 2: And it adds substance to when you see like actual
1:52:34
Speaker 2: biological adaptations that are substantiated.
1:52:39
Speaker 1: Well, we do have a white bigfoot that's been reported
1:52:43
Speaker 1: in North Georgia as well, and we've kind of connected it.
1:52:47
Speaker 1: I know some of the guys on my team talking
1:52:49
Speaker 1: about how they think it's really old, and Mike Crime says,
1:52:53
Speaker 1: at white gray old, and and I think that's the case.
1:52:57
Speaker 1: I mean, some people want to call these things like
1:52:58
Speaker 1: albino SaaS what Sometimes it could just be old too,
1:53:03
Speaker 1: you know.
1:53:05
Speaker 2: I think that's when we're talking about the subject. I'm
1:53:07
Speaker 2: not getting too specific. I'm not trying to draw direct correlations.
1:53:12
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it. I mean, obviously people will
1:53:14
Speaker 2: talk about, well, this bigfoot like that, this bigfoot like that,
1:53:17
Speaker 2: this bigfoot that's not you know, we look at a video,
1:53:21
Speaker 2: someone might be well, it's not big enough to be
1:53:22
Speaker 2: a bigfoot, or it's the arms are too short. Are
1:53:27
Speaker 2: we saying that every hominin that adapted in every possible
1:53:30
Speaker 2: way or whatever these things are, everyone's going to be
1:53:33
Speaker 2: exactly the same. Even humans are massive diversity and the
1:53:39
Speaker 2: human amotomy right across the species. You know, some people
1:53:43
Speaker 2: have longer arms, shorter arms, you know, longer torsos, shorter torsos.
1:53:49
Speaker 2: I think we see some similarities obviously amongst and if
1:53:53
Speaker 2: you're talking about smaller populations, they're probably going to have
1:53:56
Speaker 2: more cohesive features, right, But you know, I think that
1:54:03
Speaker 2: there's a lot of room for them to look different
1:54:05
Speaker 2: obviously when they age. You know, we see blonde ones,
1:54:08
Speaker 2: we see brown ones, we see black ones, different skin colors.
1:54:12
Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a to me that adds
1:54:14
Speaker 2: more validity to it. There's diversity amongst, you know, genetic
1:54:19
Speaker 2: adversity amongst the populations of these things. Than if they
1:54:23
Speaker 2: all looked exactly, all were exactly the same, that'd be
1:54:25
Speaker 2: a little weird. Right. So it's even like people be like,
1:54:28
Speaker 2: it's too small, well is it? You know? Ten? Is
1:54:32
Speaker 2: it a baby? He's a little one. You know, they
1:54:35
Speaker 2: have to grow. They're not born seven feet tall, they're
1:54:37
Speaker 2: not born ten feet tall, you know. So it's funny
1:54:43
Speaker 2: how quickly people want to jump to says it's fake,
1:54:47
Speaker 2: that bit of evidence is fake or whatever, because it's
1:54:52
Speaker 2: it's hard to say. Man. If people are telling me
1:54:55
Speaker 2: it's real, it's hard and I can't. I'll try to match.
1:54:58
Speaker 2: If I see something, I'll say, Okay, is that actually
1:55:00
Speaker 2: this suit that I know can be purchased from this
1:55:02
Speaker 2: Halloween store or whatever, rented from this rental house in
1:55:07
Speaker 2: la or you know, I'll try to find that stuff
1:55:11
Speaker 2: before I post the video. I try to bet him.
1:55:15
Speaker 2: Obviously it looks like a really cheap, cheesy gorilla super Walmart.
1:55:18
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna post that video.
1:55:21
Speaker 1: You've seen pictures like that before, right, sure.
1:55:24
Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, But if it's anything beyond that, you know,
1:55:28
Speaker 2: I'm gonna post it, and we're gonna at least talk
1:55:30
Speaker 2: about it, because you know, we're sharpening our skills of discernment.
1:55:34
Speaker 2: And some people point out sometimes stuff that I didn't notice.
1:55:36
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, you're right, that's you know.
1:55:39
Speaker 2: I've had a guy that I posted a dog man
1:55:41
Speaker 2: video one time, and this guy from Mexico. I think
1:55:45
Speaker 2: it's like a filmmaker. He wrote me. He was like, hey,
1:55:47
Speaker 2: this is me in that this is our little indie film.
1:55:51
Speaker 2: And I posted another post and updated the original post
1:55:54
Speaker 2: saying this is this, you know, But in most cases
1:55:59
Speaker 2: when people say something fake, I tend to ask them, Okay,
1:56:02
Speaker 2: where's the where's the proof? Where do we see it?
1:56:05
Speaker 2: Because otherwise you're just calling someone a liar that you
1:56:08
Speaker 2: don't know and I don't know, and I can't prove
1:56:12
Speaker 2: that they're lying. And this video looks kind of good,
1:56:14
Speaker 2: this photo looks kind of good. And when we're looking
1:56:17
Speaker 2: into the art of the hoax, we've realized just how
1:56:22
Speaker 2: hard it can be to try to fake these things.
1:56:27
Speaker 2: I mean, looking at the Independence Day footage, that's what
1:56:30
Speaker 2: I always go back to, which is the mother black
1:56:34
Speaker 2: mother walking down the boulder field. I don't think anyone
1:56:39
Speaker 2: ever taken credit for that video, but you've got you know,
1:56:43
Speaker 2: we're talking about visibility and difficulty walking and everything in
1:56:47
Speaker 2: those suits. It's walking down a you know, forty five
1:56:52
Speaker 2: degree slope when covered in boulders and a big foot
1:56:57
Speaker 2: suit alone. But then it has a baby in its arms.
1:57:00
Speaker 2: Neither the baby's animatronic or being puppeted by the person.
1:57:03
Speaker 2: If it's all fake, if it's a hope and the
1:57:07
Speaker 2: creature is looking at the camera the whole time, which
1:57:10
Speaker 2: people are be like, well, why is it looking the
1:57:12
Speaker 2: camera whole time. It's obviously fake, but it's keeping its
1:57:15
Speaker 2: eyes on the threat. It's walking and looking. It's not
1:57:20
Speaker 2: even looking where it's going. It's walking down it's very
1:57:23
Speaker 2: rough terrain, carrying a baby and staring at the camp.
1:57:26
Speaker 2: It's very hard to do. I don't think people it
1:57:28
Speaker 2: looks simple to people until you actually a lot of
1:57:30
Speaker 2: things look simple to people until they actually try to do,
1:57:33
Speaker 2: you know. And I think that's one of the most
1:57:37
Speaker 2: compelling videos for me. There's a lot of work put
1:57:39
Speaker 2: into that suit. If it's a suit, it goes to
1:57:42
Speaker 2: the practical, practical effects Polke's aspect of that video. It's
1:57:46
Speaker 2: very expensive, it's already like twenty five years old, if
1:57:51
Speaker 2: twenty years old, and then just the physicality of the
1:57:55
Speaker 2: ability to do what that creature is doing. It's a
1:57:57
Speaker 2: lot harder than I think people give those videos credit for.
1:58:02
Speaker 1: And it's holding that baby. I mean that would be
1:58:04
Speaker 1: putting a baby's if it's a real baby. Let's just say,
1:58:08
Speaker 1: like if it's a person, they'd be putting a costume
1:58:10
Speaker 1: on their baby too, and all that stuff. It's just
1:58:13
Speaker 1: it's a little crazy. But you know, we've had like
1:58:16
Speaker 1: multiple people asking, so I got to ask you. Multiple
1:58:19
Speaker 1: people in the chat have been asking one after the other,
1:58:21
Speaker 1: how old do you think bigfoots live to be trey?
1:58:25
Speaker 1: How what is their lifespan?
1:58:27
Speaker 2: No, I mean I feel like, you know, bigger animals
1:58:34
Speaker 2: tend to live shorter lives, right in theory, but you know,
1:58:43
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot to the concept of
1:58:47
Speaker 2: how they're living and are they living in a way
1:58:51
Speaker 2: that you know, if you look at all the biohackers now,
1:58:55
Speaker 2: you know, they're talking about optimizing your mitochondria for energy production,
1:58:59
Speaker 2: and you know all these kinds of things. I mean,
1:59:01
Speaker 2: are they have they already done that they lived that way?
1:59:06
Speaker 2: You know, are they living in a way where their
1:59:08
Speaker 2: bodies are optimized already? And we have you know the
1:59:13
Speaker 2: stories of people, say pre flood in the Bible or
1:59:18
Speaker 2: you know the Bible, a lot of Genesis is taken
1:59:21
Speaker 2: from ancient Sumerian text and all this stuff. So we're
1:59:23
Speaker 2: going back further and further. But you know, those ancient
1:59:27
Speaker 2: sort of people were said to be giants and lived
1:59:31
Speaker 2: for a very long time, so you know, were they
1:59:37
Speaker 2: tuned in in a way that they they're not coming
1:59:40
Speaker 2: apart like we are today. I mean, certainly our environment.
1:59:43
Speaker 2: Certainly the crutch of civilization only got us so far,
1:59:48
Speaker 2: and I think we're now devolving to a certain extent.
1:59:55
Speaker 2: You know, everything that we're looking to supplement through technology,
2:00:00
Speaker 2: I think could be achieved on a more natural path,
2:00:05
Speaker 2: but not when you've damage sort of the population as
2:00:11
Speaker 2: much through constant crutching. So you know, there's there's something
2:00:19
Speaker 2: and this gets almost controversial, I guess you could say,
2:00:23
Speaker 2: but there's something to be said for you know, evolution
2:00:29
Speaker 2: in theory, you know, and the evolution itself is controversial,
2:00:34
Speaker 2: but whether that theory is absolutely correct or not, I
2:00:38
Speaker 2: think we can see that there is some truth in
2:00:42
Speaker 2: the evolution of self, whether it's physical or mental or
2:00:45
Speaker 2: spiritual whatever, through adversity. It doesn't come through ease. So
2:00:56
Speaker 2: that also doesn't lend itself to a large population. You know,
2:00:59
Speaker 2: the population and gets cold, the weaker are taken out
2:01:03
Speaker 2: in winter. You know, if if these things moved into
2:01:06
Speaker 2: the European and Asian nor there's northernmost regions hundreds of
2:01:13
Speaker 2: thousands and millions of years before us and we're up
2:01:16
Speaker 2: there just killing it literally or all that time, they're
2:01:22
Speaker 2: going to be way more advanced than us in a
2:01:25
Speaker 2: lot of ways. Ah, if they've sort of developed through
2:01:33
Speaker 2: that natural adversity of living in those places. You know,
2:01:37
Speaker 2: they were not in the garden. They were not in
2:01:40
Speaker 2: this sort of perfect easy place to be, and so
2:01:45
Speaker 2: I think that's why they were so such a significant
2:01:52
Speaker 2: force when we you know, we weren't just being hunted by, say,
2:01:56
Speaker 2: with you tigers. I would say, like a you know,
2:02:00
Speaker 2: seven foot tall human that's muscled like a chimpanzee and
2:02:05
Speaker 2: weighs eight hundred pounds is a much more significant predator
2:02:09
Speaker 2: than even a saber tooth tiger. They were preying on
2:02:11
Speaker 2: saber tooth tigers. You know, they were there or at
2:02:14
Speaker 2: least competing for praying with saber tooth type cave bears
2:02:18
Speaker 2: and all these kinds of agent megafauna, So they may
2:02:26
Speaker 2: be super optimized. I think that the idea is they're
2:02:28
Speaker 2: probably more highly evolved than us because they didn't crutch. Well,
2:02:33
Speaker 2: you know, we we think we're the greatest thing because
2:02:35
Speaker 2: we have technology, we developed technology, but I think we're
2:02:38
Speaker 2: actually we've done a disservice to ourselves as a as beings.
2:02:44
Speaker 2: That's you know, that's kind of crazy to say, because
2:02:47
Speaker 2: it does you know, there's a lot of great things
2:02:48
Speaker 2: that come with technology. But I think if you look
2:02:50
Speaker 2: at it from you know, really zoom out and look
2:02:54
Speaker 2: at it from the big picture in the sense of
2:02:58
Speaker 2: not just my gener or your generation, the next generation,
2:03:02
Speaker 2: you know, my kids generation, my parents' generation. You know,
2:03:06
Speaker 2: we're looking at like three hundred years in the future
2:03:09
Speaker 2: at max. The average person probably not even that. But
2:03:11
Speaker 2: if you're looking as a civilization, but I mean, if
2:03:14
Speaker 2: you're looking at millions of years or thousands of years,
2:03:20
Speaker 2: the benefit to living in then that sort of natural
2:03:25
Speaker 2: path with Mother Earth, it's probably the right way to
2:03:31
Speaker 2: be and probably more beneficial to the individual than the
2:03:38
Speaker 2: path that we've taken as humans m hm. Probably a
2:03:42
Speaker 2: lot more highly evolved in ways that we're not.
2:03:46
Speaker 1: Talking about.
2:03:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could be mitochondrial optimization for energy and
2:03:53
Speaker 2: all these other types of things. Do they how long
2:03:56
Speaker 2: do they live? I mean, these are great questions to ask,
2:03:58
Speaker 2: and we go off for everyone. Anybody has a real answer.
2:04:01
Speaker 2: I think if anybody tells you they have a real answer,
2:04:03
Speaker 2: they're probably maybe don't listen to them because we don't
2:04:09
Speaker 2: have that answer unless there's something like you know, you
2:04:11
Speaker 2: have some government operative that's had a chance to study
2:04:15
Speaker 2: these things on some black op then we don't know.
2:04:23
Speaker 2: Even if I saw one tomorrow and got to spend
2:04:26
Speaker 2: the day with it, I wouldn't know anything about the
2:04:29
Speaker 2: greater scope of this whole phenomenon, I think, because I
2:04:32
Speaker 2: don't think one individual would have enough. You know, one
2:04:36
Speaker 2: day with the Bigfoot wouldn't tell me enough about everything
2:04:40
Speaker 2: that we're dealing with here. And if I could dissect
2:04:42
Speaker 2: one with you know, some biologists, I still don't think
2:04:48
Speaker 2: we would be able to determine everything we need to
2:04:51
Speaker 2: know about it's phenomenon. It's too big. So I mean,
2:04:56
Speaker 2: they're fun questions, but like I said, that's the fun
2:04:58
Speaker 2: part of this is chasing the question and thinking about it.
2:05:02
Speaker 2: We can all sharpen our brains by asking these questions
2:05:07
Speaker 2: and going on the thought experiment. But there are no answers,
2:05:10
Speaker 2: and I don't know that what ever happened, that would
2:05:13
Speaker 2: be great to have some answers. But I'm just more
2:05:17
Speaker 2: I'm living for the questions.
2:05:20
Speaker 1: I know right well, I mean because the more that
2:05:22
Speaker 1: I'm learning and the more that I get out in
2:05:24
Speaker 1: the field, and I've been doing this for a while,
2:05:26
Speaker 1: the more questions I have, Like I mean, you think
2:05:28
Speaker 1: that you've got something figured out, and then you realize
2:05:31
Speaker 1: you have nothing figured out. The more you are out
2:05:33
Speaker 1: in the field, you know, having these experiences.
2:05:36
Speaker 2: A lot of people still think we're dealing with like
2:05:39
Speaker 2: one big foot somewhere in northern California. And then you
2:05:43
Speaker 2: have people there's definitely a population, but they're all this thing,
2:05:48
Speaker 2: you know, they're all Patty or whatever, and they all
2:05:51
Speaker 2: look like that, and they live out in the woods
2:05:52
Speaker 2: like Harry Anderson's and you know, play with the bunnies,
2:05:59
Speaker 2: you know, and then there's okay, we've got four or
2:06:01
Speaker 2: five types, and then you know, it keeps expanding. But
2:06:04
Speaker 2: I think it's like exponentially larger than anything we can conceive,
2:06:11
Speaker 2: and it's all tied into the greater truths of the
2:06:15
Speaker 2: larger reality that we're I think maybe starting to see
2:06:20
Speaker 2: a little bit peak through in the collective consciousness. But yeah,
2:06:29
Speaker 2: I don't know when it comes to this whole technology
2:06:32
Speaker 2: crutch thing. Uh. There's a scene in the Time Machine movie,
2:06:36
Speaker 2: whether it's it's part of the original book, where there's
2:06:40
Speaker 2: two different races of humans that exist in the future,
2:06:44
Speaker 2: and I really feel like, are we is that where
2:06:47
Speaker 2: we're headed? Are there going to be because you know,
2:06:49
Speaker 2: we're on the cusp of transhumanism, you know, where this
2:06:55
Speaker 2: this crutch of civilization and technology into it's itself with
2:07:03
Speaker 2: us and we don't become we're not humans anymore. So
2:07:07
Speaker 2: are we about to see a split where, in a
2:07:09
Speaker 2: similar way, humans split from other hominids, hominins maybe in
2:07:17
Speaker 2: the Uncanny Valley, in the valley seeing that split again,
2:07:25
Speaker 2: or they're going to be humans that can take the
2:07:28
Speaker 2: more natural maybe even reject this fully and take a
2:07:31
Speaker 2: more natural path. And then we're gonna have the the
2:07:35
Speaker 2: people that have chips in their brains and put their
2:07:40
Speaker 2: consciousnesses in the toasters, and I believe weird robot stuff
2:07:47
Speaker 2: going on.
2:07:48
Speaker 1: I'm team human, Okay, I'm one hundred percent team human.
2:07:51
Speaker 1: Everybody over here, we're all team human. Organics for sure,
2:07:55
Speaker 1: we're organics. Yeah, I mean listen, I've been doing shows
2:07:58
Speaker 1: on things like Artificial Human and the Cabbage Patch and
2:08:02
Speaker 1: you know, the incubator babies, and it's it's the wild,
2:08:06
Speaker 1: wild world we're living in with all the clones and
2:08:09
Speaker 1: our official human is the homunculus and all that.
2:08:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, we covered it all right there. It's coming. Yeah, technology,
2:08:20
Speaker 2: We're right on the edge. And it's you know, there's
2:08:23
Speaker 2: an old Chinese curse that says me live in interesting times,
2:08:27
Speaker 2: and I think we're there.
2:08:29
Speaker 1: We're definitely there. I'm there, Listen. I signed up for
2:08:32
Speaker 1: the wild and crazy ride this lifetime and I'm here
2:08:36
Speaker 1: for all of it. And I don't know, but I
2:08:38
Speaker 1: think i'm I'm definitely here to try to guide the
2:08:42
Speaker 1: go down the path. I don't know if I'm guiding
2:08:44
Speaker 1: other people, I'm definitely doing it myself. The path of humanism. Okay,
2:08:48
Speaker 1: what does it even mean to be human? That's always
2:08:50
Speaker 1: been a question that comes up in my life, like
2:08:52
Speaker 1: what does it mean to be human?
2:08:53
Speaker 2: Well?
2:08:53
Speaker 1: I never in a millionaire thought that I would live
2:08:55
Speaker 1: to see the day. But I can't tell who's human
2:08:57
Speaker 1: and who's not anymore.
2:09:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what is it to be? I mean
2:09:03
Speaker 2: that's a great question. Was it to be human? And human?
2:09:06
Speaker 2: Defined biologically human? Defined by the spiritual or energetic force?
2:09:13
Speaker 2: Platina's you know, I've tend from a spiritual perspective. I
2:09:19
Speaker 2: tend to think that we're spiritual beings on a human
2:09:23
Speaker 2: journey or energetic beings on a human journey. And this
2:09:26
Speaker 2: is a avatar body that I'm in, and so, you know,
2:09:35
Speaker 2: did do the Bigfoot have that same? Are they still
2:09:41
Speaker 2: in a more you know, despite having maybe more developed
2:09:46
Speaker 2: aspects of their brain that help them with telepathy and
2:09:49
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Are they what are grere they vibing?
2:09:52
Speaker 2: You know? Are they viving five D? Are they still
2:09:55
Speaker 2: in three D? I mean, what is the what's what's
2:09:59
Speaker 2: going on there?
2:10:00
Speaker 1: Don't know, they might have brainship if they've been hanging
2:10:03
Speaker 1: out with Elon Musk. I don't know, what do you think?
2:10:06
Speaker 2: I think? You know, I actually wrote a bunch of
2:10:09
Speaker 2: scripts when I was and it was so funny because
2:10:13
Speaker 2: like a lot of them actually kind of come true,
2:10:16
Speaker 2: I guess you might say in some ways. But a
2:10:20
Speaker 2: bunch of scripts back in the day once we're in
2:10:21
Speaker 2: in the movie business, and one involved Bigfoot, and an
2:10:29
Speaker 2: aspect of it was cybernetic you know, brain chipping big
2:10:35
Speaker 2: a pot of Bigfoot, that this is something government had
2:10:38
Speaker 2: done for a specific reason. One gets a bunch of
2:10:44
Speaker 2: you get captured for that purpose, and one a young
2:10:46
Speaker 2: one gets left behind, and that was an aspect of
2:10:48
Speaker 2: the film. But but yeah, I mean, if you could
2:10:53
Speaker 2: brain ship a sasquatch for military purposes That would be
2:10:58
Speaker 2: quite the soldier. I mean, there's no way that hasn't been.
2:11:02
Speaker 2: I feel like there's no way they haven't done that.
2:11:04
Speaker 2: You know, like with all the stuff we know they're
2:11:06
Speaker 2: up to, they haven't snatched one and like you know,
2:11:09
Speaker 2: at least used it for some sort of explored military applications.
2:11:17
Speaker 2: How they can use that information, I'm sure they haven't.
2:11:20
Speaker 2: I mean, what obviously the obviously the US government has
2:11:23
Speaker 2: this information, So what what are they doing with it?
2:11:28
Speaker 2: I mean the disclosure I want I'm more interested in that,
2:11:31
Speaker 2: to be honest, me too. You know, we're talking about
2:11:37
Speaker 2: all this energy stuff right now, and meanwhile, I don't
2:11:42
Speaker 2: hear a whole lot of conversation about you know, we're
2:11:44
Speaker 2: getting on this GUFO disclosure and everybody's complaining about fossil
2:11:47
Speaker 2: fuels and alternative energy and this and that and the other.
2:11:51
Speaker 2: We know, the government's head zero point energy for what
2:11:55
Speaker 2: almost pushing one hundred years at least, you know, I mean,
2:11:59
Speaker 2: even the as Tech Crash was I think the thirties.
2:12:02
Speaker 2: I mean Roswell was forty seven. But I think we're uh,
2:12:05
Speaker 2: the as Tech crash was in h as tech New
2:12:08
Speaker 2: Mexico I think was you know, in the thirties, so
2:12:12
Speaker 2: they've had this tech for a long time, probably before
2:12:15
Speaker 2: even that, but nobody's talking about that. Really, it's not
2:12:21
Speaker 2: a big point of contention with all this stuff happening.
2:12:25
Speaker 2: You know, we could fix all the energy problems immediately
2:12:28
Speaker 2: with the tech we know they have. They're admitting to it.
2:12:32
Speaker 2: Where's the congressional hearing on giving us free energy like tomorrow? Right?
2:12:38
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully it's coming. We've got so much now.
2:12:43
Speaker 2: I don't get worried, you know, I'm I love what
2:12:46
Speaker 2: I'm hearing, but you know, always in the back of
2:12:49
Speaker 2: my mind it's like, you know, where's the Hegelian dialectic
2:12:55
Speaker 2: and all of this?
2:12:56
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, well, you know we got it. We
2:12:58
Speaker 1: gotta stay positive, okay, because if we start thinking like, well,
2:13:02
Speaker 1: what's the catch, what's the catch, We're going to manifest it. Yeah,
2:13:08
Speaker 1: you start manifesting things like that, and we've got We've
2:13:10
Speaker 1: become coach so conditioned to have the rug pulled out
2:13:13
Speaker 1: from underneath our feet. Every time we get something good,
2:13:16
Speaker 1: they take it back, you know, they put more lockdowns
2:13:19
Speaker 1: in and laws to you know, suppress things, and I
2:13:24
Speaker 1: don't know, like I'm trying to stay positive about it
2:13:26
Speaker 1: right now because there's so much coming to light right now.
2:13:29
Speaker 1: And I do think we are in a golden era
2:13:31
Speaker 1: of a lot of different things, and hopefully hopefully.
2:13:34
Speaker 2: So at the very least, you know, we've got I mean,
2:13:40
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be the time of the pouring out
2:13:42
Speaker 2: of knowledge. And I think, you know, apocalypse if you
2:13:46
Speaker 2: look at the actual definition is unveiling of hidden truths.
2:13:53
Speaker 2: You know, that's the actual meaning of apocalypse. So maybe
2:13:59
Speaker 2: we're in the time of revelations, but it's the revelations
2:14:02
Speaker 2: of you know, what's behind the veil?
2:14:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that you're part of this too,
2:14:11
Speaker 1: you know, part of the revelations of what's going on
2:14:14
Speaker 1: with Bigfoot, with your with your documentaries and with all
2:14:18
Speaker 1: of your with your social media and everything. I mean,
2:14:20
Speaker 1: you're doing a pretty good service to the cryptic community
2:14:23
Speaker 1: by posting that stuff and having a conversation, opening up
2:14:26
Speaker 1: the lines of conversation on these types of things. And
2:14:30
Speaker 1: before we go tonight, of course, I know it's already
2:14:32
Speaker 1: been well over two hours. I don't want to keep
2:14:35
Speaker 1: in here all night. We can talk all night, I
2:14:37
Speaker 1: know that we could, and and I know, I don't
2:14:40
Speaker 1: want to keep you over. You know, sometimes we'll go
2:14:42
Speaker 1: three hours and I'm like, oh my god, where did
2:14:44
Speaker 1: the time go? But but I know we we'd kind
2:14:47
Speaker 1: of talked about the Devil's Head. Is that what it's
2:14:49
Speaker 1: called out of North Carolina? Do you want to talk
2:14:51
Speaker 1: about that before we go to minute?
2:14:53
Speaker 2: Do you that I do?
2:14:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I've got I've got a couple of pictures.
2:14:59
Speaker 2: So we talked about Jewdhicola earlier. Judah Coola is the
2:15:04
Speaker 2: Cherokee devil or Sukalou. We also talked about uh su Kaloo.
2:15:10
Speaker 2: The Cherokee devil was believed to have put his handprint
2:15:14
Speaker 2: on Judicolor rock and he leaped from the Devil's Courthouse
2:15:20
Speaker 2: and landed on that rock, left that handprint. That's the
2:15:23
Speaker 2: Cherokee lord. Anyway, Well, the Devil's courthouse is right above
2:15:29
Speaker 2: this point in the hike to the top of the
2:15:32
Speaker 2: Devil's Head, and that is the Devil's head right there.
2:15:37
Speaker 2: Uh Now, Judicola Suklu is known as the slant eyed
2:15:41
Speaker 2: Giant and was described as having a sloped forehead, you know,
2:15:46
Speaker 2: leading into a conical crown. And to me, I mean
2:15:51
Speaker 2: it's very interesting that that's called Devil's Head and it's
2:15:54
Speaker 2: in the Devil's Courthouse, which are right below the Double's
2:15:57
Speaker 2: Courthouse where he was believed to reside in. The Double's
2:15:59
Speaker 2: Courthouse is really just a big cave outcropping at the
2:16:03
Speaker 2: top of this mountain. And another thing I find interesting
2:16:07
Speaker 2: is if you look at pictures from the Pacific Northwest
2:16:10
Speaker 2: where they did tribal mask of Sasquatch, he kind of
2:16:15
Speaker 2: has that same pursed mouth that you can see right
2:16:18
Speaker 2: there towards the bottom of the boulder where it's like whistling,
2:16:23
Speaker 2: you know, or whooping. And so I just, you know,
2:16:28
Speaker 2: I was hiking up to the top of the Devil's Head.
2:16:30
Speaker 2: And this is before I knew any of this. I
2:16:32
Speaker 2: just was vacationing in the Lake Lord many years ago
2:16:37
Speaker 2: when I was living in New York and I came
2:16:38
Speaker 2: down here to see family and I rented a house
2:16:41
Speaker 2: in Lake Lore and I went on this hike and
2:16:42
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, it's it looks it's an interesting
2:16:47
Speaker 2: sort of shape to that head. And then I just
2:16:52
Speaker 2: started digging more into the you know, the lore about
2:16:56
Speaker 2: all this, and it was interesting to find. But to me,
2:17:00
Speaker 2: that looks a lot like a like the description of Sukaloo,
2:17:04
Speaker 2: and they certainly call it Devil's Head. And that's where
2:17:06
Speaker 2: that all comes from, is the Cherokee Devil. That's where
2:17:08
Speaker 2: that hole, uh, Devil's Head, the mountain, the Devil's courthouse,
2:17:14
Speaker 2: all that stuff right there, Lake Wore, that's where it
2:17:17
Speaker 2: all comes from. So uh, it's a you know, it's
2:17:22
Speaker 2: an it's an ancient place. These are some of the
2:17:24
Speaker 2: oldest mountains in the world. I think there's only one
2:17:26
Speaker 2: mountain range that's slightly older than Appalachia uh in Africa,
2:17:33
Speaker 2: certainly the oldest in America's and technically they're all the
2:17:37
Speaker 2: same because in theory they all broke, you know, Pangaea.
2:17:41
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that rock. It's such a cool
2:17:46
Speaker 2: looking place. Unfortunately, I don't think we're gonna get any
2:17:51
Speaker 2: actual Bigfoot near that spot or one of our one
2:17:55
Speaker 2: of our suits, but definitely filming there, have film there,
2:18:01
Speaker 2: and it's it's a cool looking place. I would suggest
2:18:05
Speaker 2: going there. It's it's interesting just to go sit and
2:18:08
Speaker 2: get sort of the perspective of the Cherokee Devil from
2:18:11
Speaker 2: from his courthouse. And I would definitely suggest anybody that
2:18:15
Speaker 2: can can or read the story of Sukaloo, who's in
2:18:21
Speaker 2: Mooney's book Myths of the Cherokee. It's such a great
2:18:26
Speaker 2: story and it's really a lot longer than anybody ever
2:18:29
Speaker 2: talks about. But it's a story of a human and
2:18:33
Speaker 2: a non human hominin type creature inter breeding, which we
2:18:40
Speaker 2: have DNA evidence of the Denisovans and humans. We already
2:18:44
Speaker 2: have that DNA evidence to prove that occurred in history.
2:18:47
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think that there's any doubt
2:18:53
Speaker 2: in my mind that if the denis Ovans were the
2:18:55
Speaker 2: size of cave bears, which their teeth would indicate, that
2:19:00
Speaker 2: they could have, you know, migrated to the Americas and
2:19:06
Speaker 2: could possibly be the giants that you know, at least
2:19:11
Speaker 2: some of the giants that we have in the Americans.
2:19:16
Speaker 2: They would have in theory, looked a lot like Native Americans.
2:19:21
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at you know, the indigenous
2:19:24
Speaker 2: people of Asia and Northern Asia, Russia, Siberia, that area,
2:19:31
Speaker 2: you know, it's a similar type type of thought of
2:19:34
Speaker 2: what the Donosoans want have looked like if you actually
2:19:38
Speaker 2: look at the skull, if you if you go down
2:19:40
Speaker 2: to like what we think you know, the bones looked
2:19:43
Speaker 2: like now they're related to Neanderthals, so we have a
2:19:45
Speaker 2: little more on the Neanderthal skull sort of predict what
2:19:49
Speaker 2: that might have been like. But you know, also don't
2:19:54
Speaker 2: these things were heavily muscled, and we don't see that
2:19:57
Speaker 2: in a lot of reconstructions. But there's just if you
2:20:00
Speaker 2: look at bone density, which is how we measure kind
2:20:02
Speaker 2: of what the musculature would have looked like, because you'd
2:20:06
Speaker 2: have a much stronger bones to counter the force of muscles,
2:20:11
Speaker 2: you know, those muscles. We're talking about thick things, and
2:20:16
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why all the drawings and forensic sketches
2:20:20
Speaker 2: and stuff that you see all the time typically aren't
2:20:23
Speaker 2: very muscle. But we really need to be thinking more
2:20:25
Speaker 2: in terms of, like look at some of the photos
2:20:27
Speaker 2: of like chimps with missing hair and that kind of stuff,
2:20:31
Speaker 2: and look at that musculature. And that's what we're talking about.
2:20:34
Speaker 2: Even if you look at ancient human skulls, if you
2:20:36
Speaker 2: look at a hunter gatherer skull, it is significantly different
2:20:41
Speaker 2: from a modern human skull. It's significantly more robust, and yeah,
2:20:49
Speaker 2: that's indicative of a much stronger creature, which makes sense
2:20:55
Speaker 2: for uh, for everything we're seeing with the big foot
2:20:58
Speaker 2: phenomenon and giants and all that kind of stuff. So
2:21:02
Speaker 2: there's a there's plenty of scientific precedent for everything we're
2:21:06
Speaker 2: looking at. If you dig deep enough, it's just a
2:21:08
Speaker 2: lot too. I would suggest anybody that's really interested in stuff,
2:21:11
Speaker 2: you know, turn on your news alerts for these kinds
2:21:13
Speaker 2: of you know, subjects, keywords. You can do that so
2:21:18
Speaker 2: that when you open your browser, those news stories are
2:21:22
Speaker 2: popping up. And that's that's one way I keep up
2:21:24
Speaker 2: with it. You know, every time I'm opening my Google,
2:21:27
Speaker 2: these are the news stories I'm getting on the types
2:21:29
Speaker 2: of things that I'm interested in. And there's a new
2:21:32
Speaker 2: it's almost every day, and there's some sort of new
2:21:35
Speaker 2: hominid or hominid discovery. We were talking about. We're talking
2:21:39
Speaker 2: about a time in history that we had a lot
2:21:43
Speaker 2: of other things that weren't human, that looked human living
2:21:46
Speaker 2: alongside of us. A lot of things on the scale
2:21:49
Speaker 2: of you know, chimp to sasquatch or whatever, timber giants
2:21:55
Speaker 2: and all the other things. Uh So, and you know,
2:21:59
Speaker 2: before I think we came on the show, we were
2:22:01
Speaker 2: talking about giant fossilized giants. That a whole other thing
2:22:07
Speaker 2: to night, but you know.
2:22:08
Speaker 1: So yeah, Dan Dan in the chat was bringing that
2:22:11
Speaker 1: up about the petrified giants and this does it could
2:22:16
Speaker 1: very potentially look like a petrified giant.
2:22:18
Speaker 2: Actually interesting something stick of skull up there. I don't know,
2:22:23
Speaker 2: but either way, it's a very cool It almost uh
2:22:29
Speaker 2: parkins to like the Olmec heads in a way. I
2:22:33
Speaker 2: mean it's still more rough hewn, but I don't know
2:22:36
Speaker 2: if you've seen the giant stone heads.
2:22:38
Speaker 1: From the Omex and so oh yeah, I just did
2:22:41
Speaker 1: a show recently on the MOI to the Easter Island
2:22:44
Speaker 1: statues and that was given to me as a remote
2:22:47
Speaker 1: viewing target and we did it very Who's in the
2:22:50
Speaker 1: chat tonight and I did a show on that. He
2:22:51
Speaker 1: gave that to me as a blind target and we
2:22:55
Speaker 1: talked about the olemes that night as well. So interesting,
2:22:58
Speaker 1: we're familiar.
2:23:01
Speaker 2: And if you're talking about the Bigfoot subject, if you
2:23:03
Speaker 2: look at the mind and how how the monkeys and
2:23:06
Speaker 2: South America Mexico of the mouth Mayne how the monkey god, uh,
2:23:12
Speaker 2: what's called hano Han and the Indian monkey god is Hanahman.
2:23:20
Speaker 2: So it's a very similar name and if you look
2:23:22
Speaker 2: at their artistic depictions, it's almost exactly the same. So
2:23:27
Speaker 2: it's just very interesting how you know all these sort
2:23:29
Speaker 2: of global connections and like, how is this all connected?
2:23:34
Speaker 2: How is this also similar? Where is it all you know?
2:23:38
Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's so it's such an intricately woven, uh
2:23:45
Speaker 2: sort of tapestry we're dealing here with with this phenomenon,
2:23:47
Speaker 2: there's so much to it, and you can never get
2:23:50
Speaker 2: bored if you just keep digging.
2:23:53
Speaker 1: We never get bored over here. I've never been bored
2:23:55
Speaker 1: in my life. By the way, I can't remember the
2:23:57
Speaker 1: last time I was bored. My son says, he's sometimes
2:24:00
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is wrong with you? How do you
2:24:02
Speaker 1: get bored? There's too many things to look into, kid,
2:24:06
Speaker 1: too many mysteries to try to solve here, and yeah, yeah, yeah,
2:24:13
Speaker 1: well this has been a fantastic show tonight try.
2:24:16
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Coming on, Yeah, I love talking about.
2:24:20
Speaker 1: This is awesome. Let's talk a little bit about what
2:24:24
Speaker 1: your projects you got coming up, and like how people
2:24:26
Speaker 1: can support you.
2:24:28
Speaker 2: Sure, so everybody just needs to tune into my social
2:24:31
Speaker 2: so Instagram and squatch me now, TikTok, squatch me now, YouTube,
2:24:37
Speaker 2: squatch me now, those are the main ones you want
2:24:40
Speaker 2: to hit and just stay tuned because we're doing some
2:24:42
Speaker 2: fundraising Kickstarter coming up next month for this project, you know,
2:24:48
Speaker 2: to hit those sort of you know, things that you
2:24:53
Speaker 2: don't see anywhere else, things you're never going to see
2:24:55
Speaker 2: anywhere else. I'm really we've already shot with some amazing technology.
2:24:58
Speaker 2: You see a little bit at that in the promo
2:25:01
Speaker 2: I dropped where we're using some really cool drones and
2:25:06
Speaker 2: drone goggles. I'm sort of making some adaptations to those
2:25:09
Speaker 2: and some camera equipment you've never seen before, thermal drones,
2:25:15
Speaker 2: thermal equipment. We're introducing you to some equipment that you
2:25:19
Speaker 2: might not you can probably actually afford, but you know
2:25:23
Speaker 2: it may not have seen, which is like, this is
2:25:25
Speaker 2: a little flear right here that you just plug into
2:25:29
Speaker 2: your cameraport on your phone or your charging port on
2:25:32
Speaker 2: your phone. Maybe your phone is the monitor for your
2:25:35
Speaker 2: fleer and it works really amazing. It's a little piece
2:25:38
Speaker 2: I tested recently because I'm trying to find stuff too,
2:25:43
Speaker 2: like how can we develop kits that people can actually
2:25:47
Speaker 2: afford to put together?
2:25:48
Speaker 1: You know, how about how much is that? What would
2:25:52
Speaker 1: that cost me? If I'm WoT that.
2:25:56
Speaker 2: It wasn't more than two hundred dollars. I can afford
2:26:00
Speaker 2: that here, so just you know, I think they have
2:26:02
Speaker 2: ones with USBC and one uh you know what's the
2:26:06
Speaker 2: lightning the port uh adapter, but uh yeah, so that's
2:26:11
Speaker 2: a and it works great, Like I was surprised. So
2:26:13
Speaker 2: we're testing some you know hot you know, ten thousand
2:26:17
Speaker 2: dollars thermal drones and you know a couple hundred dollars
2:26:20
Speaker 2: little thermal pieces that you can keep in your utility belt,
2:26:23
Speaker 2: you know, your your field belt or whatever, and uh,
2:26:29
Speaker 2: you know, six hundred milimeters. I've got a whole sequence
2:26:32
Speaker 2: in the first piece where we talk about why this
2:26:34
Speaker 2: big foot flurry where we look at lenses everything from
2:26:37
Speaker 2: iPhone Promax to a six hundred millimeter you know, sony
2:26:44
Speaker 2: you know, lens and and everything in between, and all
2:26:48
Speaker 2: the focal links and how that distorts the image, that
2:26:51
Speaker 2: improves the image, what it looks like when you have
2:26:53
Speaker 2: to crop in, zoom in, you know what pixelization occurs
2:26:58
Speaker 2: all these different types of things because everybody likes to
2:27:00
Speaker 2: complain about the imagery that you know, the visual evidence
2:27:03
Speaker 2: that we get. So we're explaining why that is. So, yeah,
2:27:08
Speaker 2: follow the socials, keep your eyes out for fundraising opportunities
2:27:12
Speaker 2: you can be a part of it, offering a lot
2:27:16
Speaker 2: of cool stuff, original art from some of the people
2:27:19
Speaker 2: were working with the crew that have been on some
2:27:23
Speaker 2: big shows and do amazing work. Sculpture of Bigfoot obviously,
2:27:31
Speaker 2: like all kinds of shout outs, posters, early screenings, behind
2:27:37
Speaker 2: the scenes, all these kind of stuff that you'll be
2:27:40
Speaker 2: seeing soon. It's really like a huge undertaking to do something.
2:27:45
Speaker 2: We're really trying to get to the nitty gritty and
2:27:49
Speaker 2: touch on every aspect of this subject and sort of
2:27:53
Speaker 2: everywhere that's been seen in time and through cultures around
2:27:56
Speaker 2: the world. But it's it's fun. It's a lot for
2:28:03
Speaker 2: everybody to take in, but I think you'll like it
2:28:06
Speaker 2: and you'll sort of learn from it. We're working on
2:28:08
Speaker 2: strated field strategies. How to apply if you can get
2:28:10
Speaker 2: this equipment, you know, if you can't buy this drone,
2:28:13
Speaker 2: you can't rent it. You know you can rent it
2:28:15
Speaker 2: and maybe you can afford to do that for your
2:28:16
Speaker 2: weekend out of squatching, and then how to take all
2:28:21
Speaker 2: this equipment and apply it to actual field strategy. So
2:28:23
Speaker 2: we have this holler in western North Carolina. It's private
2:28:27
Speaker 2: land and it's kind of like my danger room from
2:28:30
Speaker 2: the X Men. You know, we're out there and we're
2:28:32
Speaker 2: like testing all this sort of ideas and strategies and
2:28:38
Speaker 2: big in its sort of like a almost like a
2:28:42
Speaker 2: decoy slash, you know, test subject to sort of you know,
2:28:47
Speaker 2: he's about seven and a half feet tall, so we're
2:28:49
Speaker 2: in the range sort of the lower end range, but
2:28:52
Speaker 2: we're in range, and you know, how does this compare?
2:28:58
Speaker 2: How does this work with thermal? How can we use thermal?
2:29:00
Speaker 2: Like thermal to me is not definitive in any way,
2:29:04
Speaker 2: Like it's a nice shape and we can see, you know,
2:29:07
Speaker 2: we're comparing like what would this body look like in
2:29:10
Speaker 2: a suit versus not in a suit? How does the
2:29:13
Speaker 2: suit affect the heat signature? And then how can we
2:29:16
Speaker 2: use the thermal more for recon to then apply other
2:29:20
Speaker 2: tools to actually get clear imagery captured when we do
2:29:26
Speaker 2: are out in the field and do actually maybe encounter something.
2:29:29
Speaker 2: Of course, that only counts if it's not gonna just
2:29:32
Speaker 2: hop through a you know, a portal to jump into
2:29:36
Speaker 2: another dimension. But if we're dealing with you know, a
2:29:38
Speaker 2: physical creature, you know, how can we apply you know,
2:29:43
Speaker 2: the six hundred millimeter lens with this piece of thermal equipment.
2:29:48
Speaker 2: You know. I've also got the guys from Help and Holler.
2:29:50
Speaker 2: Justin Joe is one of the featured field teams in
2:29:54
Speaker 2: the first episode, and they have developed some really cool
2:29:57
Speaker 2: equipment too, So they have sort of different stuff I do.
2:30:00
Speaker 2: They have some more night vision equipment, and they have
2:30:03
Speaker 2: actually developed some I think proprietary and for sound equipment
2:30:09
Speaker 2: that they're using. They actually had a company developed that
2:30:11
Speaker 2: for them. So they go through all that.
2:30:16
Speaker 3: And uh.
2:30:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh, there's just like a there's a lot
2:30:21
Speaker 2: going on. We're gonna show you a lot of different
2:30:23
Speaker 2: equipment that I don't think you've seen before, show you
2:30:25
Speaker 2: how to use it in ways you haven't seen it
2:30:27
Speaker 2: used before.
2:30:32
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
2:30:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, just really talking to you about how you can
2:30:36
Speaker 2: you know what, how how sort of multi layered the
2:30:38
Speaker 2: history is here, the science is here, and and how
2:30:45
Speaker 2: difficult the hoaxing of this is. So don't just jump
2:30:47
Speaker 2: right on it's a guy in a suit every time
2:30:48
Speaker 2: you see a big foot video, because it's all we
2:30:52
Speaker 2: need is one to be real. And I gotta say
2:30:55
Speaker 2: for now doing this for five years, I've been working
2:30:58
Speaker 2: on this from sort of concept through through produption development
2:31:03
Speaker 2: and filming in pieces here as it go. It's not
2:31:09
Speaker 2: easy to hoax. It's not easy to hoax. So just
2:31:12
Speaker 2: saying it's a it's a guy in a suit every
2:31:14
Speaker 2: time you see a video, especially if you see it
2:31:16
Speaker 2: on my page, because I put some work into into
2:31:19
Speaker 2: vetting it. Most of the times, it's less likely than
2:31:26
Speaker 2: you think that most people think it's easy. You know,
2:31:28
Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug, but it's
2:31:31
Speaker 2: not necessarily always right. And I think that you know,
2:31:37
Speaker 2: dig deeper and look a little bit more, think more
2:31:40
Speaker 2: about the subject if you don't be so dismissive. And
2:31:43
Speaker 2: I'm sure none of the people in this audience are
2:31:46
Speaker 2: dismissive of the subject, but you know, poke your friends.
2:31:49
Speaker 2: That's why we're here. If you can open someone's mind
2:31:52
Speaker 2: when something is trivialized, I think as Bigfoot has become
2:31:58
Speaker 2: a sort of pop culture. But if you can take
2:32:02
Speaker 2: something that's become almost a cartoon to a lot of
2:32:06
Speaker 2: people and make them realize that there might be something
2:32:10
Speaker 2: to this, it's going to really open their minds to
2:32:12
Speaker 2: a million different things that you know, maybe they don't
2:32:18
Speaker 2: maybe they don't want their mind too but in the end,
2:32:20
Speaker 2: I think it'd be better for them.
2:32:22
Speaker 1: Well bingo, were there big bigfoots around and it's here
2:32:26
Speaker 1: no matter whether they want it, want it to be
2:32:28
Speaker 1: or not. And so it's a matter of society's you know,
2:32:33
Speaker 1: frame of mind shifting, the consciousness, you know, the collective consciousness,
2:32:37
Speaker 1: becoming more aware of it as a whole. And I
2:32:40
Speaker 1: think that that's I think it's happening right now. And
2:32:43
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a great time for you to be.
2:32:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you are my go to person when it
2:32:49
Speaker 1: comes to like hoax videos and things like that. I
2:32:51
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I have sent you a couple
2:32:53
Speaker 1: of things. I'm like, what do you think?
2:32:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And I send videos to other people
2:32:58
Speaker 2: I know, uh in the industry, uh to see what
2:33:02
Speaker 2: they think. I'll show you know, yeah, you know when
2:33:07
Speaker 2: you think about you know this, how you know the
2:33:10
Speaker 2: focus here, the you know this and that different you
2:33:14
Speaker 2: know this artifact in the footage or whatever. Most of
2:33:18
Speaker 2: the most of the people are this isn't fake, you know,
2:33:22
Speaker 2: it's not something you know. I hear people see CGI
2:33:25
Speaker 2: green screen this that and the other guys just have
2:33:29
Speaker 2: no idea. It's so funny because people that haven't worked
2:33:32
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, especially in the tech end of this
2:33:36
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, in the production end of this kind
2:33:38
Speaker 2: of stuff, in the post production, and it's a lot
2:33:41
Speaker 2: of work. Man it's a lot wor if you don't
2:33:42
Speaker 2: realize how much money and time and tech and people
2:33:46
Speaker 2: and man hours goes into creating anything CGI. But when
2:33:51
Speaker 2: you're talking about anything in the foreground of the video,
2:33:55
Speaker 2: any sort of you know, branches or anything like that,
2:33:59
Speaker 2: it's as you do. As soon as you have something
2:34:01
Speaker 2: like that, you're talking about multiple, multiple layers that you're
2:34:05
Speaker 2: having to create make that image work. If something's in
2:34:10
Speaker 2: the background and there's any kind of foldage or anything
2:34:13
Speaker 2: the foreground, that's all. It's a tremendous amount of work
2:34:16
Speaker 2: to create and CGI it's probably not going to look real.
2:34:22
Speaker 2: The best way to do something like that, if you're
2:34:24
Speaker 2: really trying to create digital effects, would be in like
2:34:26
Speaker 2: a blue or green screen studio, and then you're having
2:34:29
Speaker 2: to bring in the foliage to sit in the foreground,
2:34:32
Speaker 2: and then you're having that it's it's again Aukam's razor
2:34:36
Speaker 2: eventually has a cutback our way. It's just not happening.
2:34:38
Speaker 2: Nobody's putting that much time and money and effort into
2:34:41
Speaker 2: producing something they get no credit for, make no money on.
2:34:45
Speaker 2: I mean even if it's a viral video on Instagram
2:34:47
Speaker 2: and it gets I saw some girl the other day
2:34:50
Speaker 2: post posted you know, I made one hundred and forty
2:34:53
Speaker 2: dollars on this video that got two million views or
2:34:56
Speaker 2: something like that, and it's like from Instagram. That's so
2:34:58
Speaker 2: she got paid, Like a hundred, one hundred and forty
2:35:01
Speaker 2: dollars doesn't cover, you know, two hours of producing a
2:35:06
Speaker 2: lot of these hopes videos. So yeah, I mean it's intense.
2:35:14
Speaker 2: I mean, if you just go down through squatch me now,
2:35:15
Speaker 2: I'll watch all those videos and just realize that we
2:35:17
Speaker 2: only need one to be real. We only need one
2:35:19
Speaker 2: piece of evidence, one witness citing one footprint, one video,
2:35:24
Speaker 2: one photo to be real, and the whole phenomenon is legitimized.
2:35:30
Speaker 2: I think the evidence is there. I think go to
2:35:32
Speaker 2: squatch me now on Instagram and you have all the
2:35:34
Speaker 2: evidence you need to realize that there is some sort
2:35:37
Speaker 2: of viable reality to this phenomenon, and it's time to
2:35:41
Speaker 2: start digging deeper.
2:35:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's patterns here, there's patterns, and there's a lot
2:35:48
Speaker 1: of evidence, a lot of evidence. It's so wonderful to
2:35:51
Speaker 1: hear this perspective, especially from a researching point of view.
2:35:55
Speaker 1: And I know the audience really appreciates you being here
2:35:57
Speaker 1: tonight just as I do. Yeah, man, I love I
2:36:03
Speaker 1: love chopping it up with you because you've I mean,
2:36:06
Speaker 1: you bring in a whole new angle to the research,
2:36:09
Speaker 1: from the tech side of it, and and so it's
2:36:13
Speaker 1: probably gonna make a lot of people look at these
2:36:15
Speaker 1: videos differently now from here on out, any kind of
2:36:18
Speaker 1: evidence and stuff. And it's not you know, when I
2:36:21
Speaker 1: think of a hoax, I think of like, well, I
2:36:24
Speaker 1: think of a lot of things, right and I and
2:36:25
Speaker 1: I have questioned a lot of videos I've seen, but
2:36:28
Speaker 1: I've I've also gone back and looked at those again
2:36:30
Speaker 1: after I've had conversations with you in the past and thought, man,
2:36:34
Speaker 1: well it would be really hard to fake that. Now
2:36:38
Speaker 1: it's almost fantastical.
2:36:40
Speaker 2: You know, we should question them. We should question that.
2:36:43
Speaker 2: I don't not I want everybody to question. That's the
2:36:46
Speaker 2: whole thing. I would love for anybody to have has
2:36:48
Speaker 2: a question about a video, to drop a comment. I'll
2:36:51
Speaker 2: come talk to you about it on Instagram or wherever
2:36:53
Speaker 2: it is. But you know, I think at the end
2:37:00
Speaker 2: of the day, you really dig and if you have
2:37:02
Speaker 2: any sort of real comprehension of what it takes to
2:37:05
Speaker 2: do this kind of stuff, it's it's a lot harder
2:37:08
Speaker 2: and a lot less likely than it's hoaxed. Yeah, then
2:37:13
Speaker 2: most people might think, yeah, well.
2:37:17
Speaker 1: Dang, okay, Well everybody please go to squatch me now
2:37:20
Speaker 1: all over social media on YouTube, on TikTok, on Instagram,
2:37:25
Speaker 1: on Kickstarter as well. You have a is it a
2:37:28
Speaker 1: link tree? I guess too on your Instagram, I think so.
2:37:32
Speaker 2: And you know, we put up I think in the
2:37:35
Speaker 2: old information that you had before we had squatched meow
2:37:37
Speaker 2: dot net. That site's actually down right now. I'm putting
2:37:40
Speaker 2: up in squatchmow dot com. Dot com wasn't available back
2:37:44
Speaker 2: in the day when I first started, and suddenly it's
2:37:45
Speaker 2: back up. So I pulled it all down, and uh,
2:37:51
Speaker 2: we are sort of gonna read when we do the
2:37:54
Speaker 2: finish the rebrand, we're gonna go up with the new
2:37:56
Speaker 2: squatchmanow dot com. So for now, everybody just go to
2:37:59
Speaker 2: the socials and all the information on this project as
2:38:04
Speaker 2: it drops, we'll be coming there again. We're starting with
2:38:09
Speaker 2: The Giants from the West is Episode one and that's
2:38:12
Speaker 2: gonna be everything kind of we talked about tonight su Kaloo,
2:38:17
Speaker 2: boujam and basijan and wise, bigfoot, blurry, all these kinds
2:38:27
Speaker 2: of things, the Devil's head. We're gonna tie all that
2:38:30
Speaker 2: stuff together. We'll talk, uh, sort about where these giants
2:38:37
Speaker 2: came from, some different paths they might have taken. Are
2:38:42
Speaker 2: they bigfoots? Are the giants? We'll get into it all.
2:38:46
Speaker 2: Are there other you know, when we get to Georgia,
2:38:49
Speaker 2: which is the next piece, there's the Duhari, which were
2:38:55
Speaker 2: giants that were called Irish giants because they were tall, redheaded,
2:38:59
Speaker 2: red haired giants that were deer herders that were supposedly
2:39:06
Speaker 2: lived in South Carolina and Georgia. So we're another kind
2:39:10
Speaker 2: of touch on that a little bit. It's a whole
2:39:12
Speaker 2: nother piece of the puzzle that's very obscure. Nobody really
2:39:16
Speaker 2: knows or talks too much about the Duhar, but you
2:39:19
Speaker 2: guys can google that as d u h A r E.
2:39:23
Speaker 2: I believe is how it's spelled. But it kind of
2:39:27
Speaker 2: harkens to the red hair giants of you know, the Southwest,
2:39:31
Speaker 2: and a lot of other you know, references to red
2:39:34
Speaker 2: hair giants throughout throughout history. So uh, and we'll go
2:39:39
Speaker 2: to ok As that I said, and then south of
2:39:48
Speaker 2: course Blue Ridge, the Blue Ridge area and above.
2:39:50
Speaker 1: That that's my stopping grounds, my research. I do there
2:39:55
Speaker 1: next weekend.
2:39:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and you know, I'm not We're still filming
2:40:02
Speaker 2: and I'm still assembling of you know, sort of the edits,
2:40:06
Speaker 2: so we're you know, I'm not gonna stick. I feel
2:40:11
Speaker 2: like with the way distribution goes today, there's no real rules.
2:40:14
Speaker 2: We're gonna just go with where the content takes us,
2:40:18
Speaker 2: and it'll be as shorter as long as it needs
2:40:20
Speaker 2: to be each episode. So maybe forty five minutes and
2:40:23
Speaker 2: maybe an hour and a half. It's just how long
2:40:25
Speaker 2: it takes to tell the story. And we may spend
2:40:27
Speaker 2: two episodes in Georgia if you need to. But we're
2:40:32
Speaker 2: just gonna run with it and you know, follow the mystery.
2:40:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, stay on the hunt. Yeah, on the hunt. That's
2:40:42
Speaker 1: where out time on the Hunt with the Christians Regress Tonight.
2:40:45
Speaker 1: You better come hang out with me sometime in Georgia.
2:40:48
Speaker 1: Come down and we'll take you to some big foot spots.
2:40:50
Speaker 2: Yeah. I gotta I gotta see meet up with Jesse,
2:40:54
Speaker 2: to your cousin, My cousin.
2:40:56
Speaker 1: Cousin Jesse Jesse Duke. Yeah, he have a baby. Actually,
2:41:01
Speaker 1: when he's not his wife is his wife not him
2:41:04
Speaker 1: at all.
2:41:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll be at the uh. We'll definitely be
2:41:09
Speaker 2: seeing He's got a great sculpture at the Blue Ridge
2:41:11
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Museum, Expedition Bigfoot.
2:41:13
Speaker 1: I'm going there next weekend. I'm gonna go. I'll have
2:41:16
Speaker 1: some pictures of me in front of that big old thing.
2:41:18
Speaker 1: It's like a ten foot tall Bigfoot.
2:41:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked today quite a bit. We're gonna be
2:41:23
Speaker 2: filming at the museum. Nice trying to schedule his dates,
2:41:31
Speaker 2: but well, definitely maybe we should do a live from
2:41:36
Speaker 2: somewhere when we get up in person live.
2:41:43
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm heading up there next weekend. I'm speaking
2:41:47
Speaker 1: at a UFO conference in Blue Ridge on Saturday, and
2:41:50
Speaker 1: we're planning some of us at the conference are going
2:41:53
Speaker 1: to be going over to Expedition Bigfoot. That's the name
2:41:56
Speaker 1: of the museum. So yeah, everybody, y'all come up and
2:41:59
Speaker 1: see me a weekend. Okay, and Trey, if you're in
2:42:02
Speaker 1: the area, come to Blue Ridge. We'll be up there
2:42:05
Speaker 1: talking about UFOs next Saturday.
2:42:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the museum.
2:42:09
Speaker 1: No, actually, we're going to be up in oh I
2:42:14
Speaker 1: forgot where exactly. Fannin County. Fan In County is where
2:42:17
Speaker 1: Blue Ridge is. Yeah, it's like downtown blue Ridge, I think.
2:42:21
Speaker 1: So it's just a little ways from Cherry Log. It's
2:42:23
Speaker 1: not too far from there.
2:42:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:42:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the area. Lots of bigfoots and all
2:42:30
Speaker 1: that all that jazz. So yeah, well, Terry, thank you
2:42:33
Speaker 1: so much for being here. I know somebody in the
2:42:35
Speaker 1: chat was asking. They said, I don't have I don't
2:42:37
Speaker 1: have apps. They don't have apps. Is there another way
2:42:40
Speaker 1: to follow you other than I guess YouTube. You have
2:42:42
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel, right, Yeah.
2:42:44
Speaker 2: You can go to the YouTube. I don't. Uh, I'm
2:42:49
Speaker 2: trying to get better about YouTube. I need to do YouTube.
2:42:52
Speaker 2: I just you know, you find your your platform. It's
2:42:56
Speaker 2: just the most comfortable and stay there a little too
2:42:59
Speaker 2: too much.
2:43:00
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram.
2:43:01
Speaker 2: That's for me Instagram, but I'm going to work on YouTube.
2:43:05
Speaker 2: They've added so many features now that it's basically like
2:43:07
Speaker 2: every other social platform. So there's like your community space
2:43:11
Speaker 2: for posts, and you're you know, you can post shorts
2:43:13
Speaker 2: like reels and all that kind of stuff. So I
2:43:15
Speaker 2: need to start doing more. I'm definitely planning on doing
2:43:17
Speaker 2: the bulk of any longer form content behind the scenes
2:43:21
Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff will all be on YouTube,
2:43:23
Speaker 2: So follow me on YouTube, and yeah, I will let
2:43:28
Speaker 2: everybody know when the new sights up and then you'll
2:43:30
Speaker 2: just be able to follow the blog there.
2:43:33
Speaker 1: Shoot, yeah, you guys, just type in squatch me now
2:43:36
Speaker 1: and all the links will come up. Yeah, exactly, and
2:43:43
Speaker 1: in his website will be it back up soon squatch
2:43:45
Speaker 1: menow dot com. You guy, so go to that too.
2:43:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:43:48
Speaker 1: Well, I'm I'm super excited. I hope you'll come back
2:43:51
Speaker 1: and hang out with us again soon. This has been
2:43:53
Speaker 1: a fantastic Okay.
2:43:55
Speaker 2: I can talk about Oh I forget that I wanted.
2:43:59
Speaker 1: To Okay, Well, okay, write it down when you remember
2:44:05
Speaker 1: anything you forgot, Okay, and we'll talk about it next time. Okay, Okay, perfect,
2:44:13
Speaker 1: All right, Well, everybody have a wonderful night. Thank you
2:44:16
Speaker 1: so much for sticking around and hanging out with us
2:44:18
Speaker 1: for nearly three hours tonight. This has been a wild,
2:44:22
Speaker 1: wild ride, but it has been fantastic. And I wanted
2:44:25
Speaker 1: to thank Kent and Mareen for the super stickers tonight.
2:44:28
Speaker 1: That was very sweet of both of you guys. Thank
2:44:31
Speaker 1: you so much, and Gus, my little furry friend, thank
2:44:34
Speaker 1: you as well, Gus for that. So you guys please
2:44:37
Speaker 1: come back and see me on Monday. I'll be back
2:44:40
Speaker 1: live with a live show at one pm Eastern on Monday,
2:44:43
Speaker 1: and I have a great lineup of guests next week,
2:44:47
Speaker 1: including Nick Sylvester. He's coming on on Wednesday. So you
2:44:51
Speaker 1: guys please be safe out there, keep your head on
2:44:53
Speaker 1: a swivel. We're living in really crazy times right now.
2:44:56
Speaker 1: But don't live in fear. Okay, nobody live in fear.
2:45:00
Speaker 1: And do you have any final words tonight? Tray any
2:45:03
Speaker 1: final thoughts before I think.
2:45:05
Speaker 2: I've done that like three times. Final thoughts. You know,
2:45:14
Speaker 2: keep keep keep just being curious, you know. I think
2:45:18
Speaker 2: that's the most important thing is you're curious about life.
2:45:22
Speaker 2: It's such a magical.
2:45:24
Speaker 3: Thing and.
2:45:27
Speaker 2: Sometimes we forget that, and I think that's some probably
2:45:30
Speaker 2: one of the most important things about this kind of
2:45:33
Speaker 2: subject matter is that it keeps us reminded that life
2:45:37
Speaker 2: is magical and there's more to it than we know.
2:45:41
Speaker 1: I love that, right, Yes, So you guys keep your
2:45:46
Speaker 1: vibrations high and have a wonderful night and stay saved
2:45:50
Speaker 1: out there. Trade Thanks you for being here and I
2:45:52
Speaker 1: will see you guys on Monday, and good luck with
2:45:55
Speaker 1: your documentary, with all your films and stuff. Come back
2:45:59
Speaker 1: and see us Sam. All right, every buddy, have a
2:46:01
Speaker 1: great night. See you later, bab