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The Bolt Report | 4 November · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Jim's the Gold reformed.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, Chris Bones's latest screen schemes three three hours a
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Speaker 2: day of electricity for everyone for what is free actually mean?
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Speaker 2: Plus is new electric car chargers that actually drain your
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Speaker 2: car of power when supplies are short. How much crazy
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Speaker 2: can this get? Also Tonight shock new economic figures, spelled troubles,
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Speaker 2: inflation saws, and jobs disappear. The Reserve Bank says goodbye
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Speaker 2: to interest rate cuts for another year. Plus the real
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Speaker 2: agenda of the protest is to say they're against Israel,
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Speaker 2: but today abuse police instead. And a singer says her
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Speaker 2: Jim expelled her when she confronted this transman in her
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Speaker 2: locker room.
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Speaker 3: I'm a woman and I have every rate, and I
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Speaker 3: want a man in a restaurant when I'm naked. God's
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Speaker 3: naked in it.
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Speaker 2: I should have said trans women, but gosh, it's also confusing.
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Speaker 2: But first, the trouble with the Liberals tearing themselves to
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Speaker 2: pieces over climate policy is that there meanwhile letting the
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Speaker 2: oweneazy govern's most dangerous minister, Chris Bone, get away with
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Speaker 2: yet more lunatic green schemes. Now I'll show you the
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Speaker 2: Climate Change and Energy Minister's laatest through brainways, one of
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Speaker 2: them so mad that you wonder how bone still has
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Speaker 2: a job. But before that, it is important to remind
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Speaker 2: the Liberals that they're now paying the price of their cowardice.
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Speaker 2: They're paying the price for trying to please the mob
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Speaker 2: when that's zero, when they knew the mob was wrong.
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Speaker 2: And that's why, of course liberal leaders and leaders finished
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Speaker 2: the Liberals split and suffering the worse they ever polls.
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Speaker 2: The Liberals should have realized years ago the danger of
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Speaker 2: this just going with the flow instead of defending facts
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Speaker 2: and reasons. They should have learned from nineteen ninety eight,
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Speaker 2: Liberal Prime Minister John Howard banned nuclear power despite knowing
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Speaker 2: it made no sense. Now, Howard did it just to
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Speaker 2: get the Greens to agree in exchange to a new
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Speaker 2: reactor for Lucas Hearts producing radioisotopes for medical treatments in industry.
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Speaker 2: But you look at the hell that caused the Liberals
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Speaker 2: at the last selection when they said they now wanted
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Speaker 2: to scrap that nuclear ban, they just looked like opportunists, shifty.
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Speaker 2: And now it's the same catastrophe all over again with
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Speaker 2: net zero, only worse. Sisonly and the Liberals are tip
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Speaker 2: to soon drop this target of cutting out carbon dioxide
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Speaker 2: emissions to zero net by twenty fifty because that target
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Speaker 2: isn't even possible and the cost of trying is horrendous.
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Speaker 2: Your power bills are soaring heavy, industry is going out
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Speaker 2: of business, and it's all for nothing anyway. Australia cannot
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Speaker 2: change the climate by anything anyone can measure. But here
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Speaker 2: is the problem. The same liberals now apparently about to
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Speaker 2: demand we scrap net zero are the same ones who
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Speaker 2: just four years ago said nets zero it's great. You see,
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Speaker 2: back then, Liberal Prime Minister Scott Morrison decided net zero
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Speaker 2: was so popular that the Liberals had better back it.
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Speaker 1: Our new official target.
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Speaker 4: Of reaching net zero missions by twenty fifty we need
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Speaker 4: to protect against the threats. Our plan for net zero
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Speaker 4: by twenty fifty is the plan that I believe Australians want.
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Speaker 2: That's the same Scott Morrison who today says net zero
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Speaker 2: must be scrapped. But worse is that Susan Lee herself
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Speaker 2: four years ago also said yes to net zero.
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Speaker 5: I think we should achieve net zero.
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Speaker 6: I think it is absolutely achievable.
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Speaker 5: I believe, as someone who's been a farmer for a
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Speaker 5: great part of my life and represents entered farmers in
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Speaker 5: western New South Wales that it is the direction we
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Speaker 5: need to take.
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Speaker 2: So who will believe it today? If this new Liberal
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Speaker 2: leader tells us that net zero is bad? Trust those
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Speaker 2: she's a farmer and it's not just her her energy
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Speaker 2: spokesman Dante and who'd have to sell scrapping the net
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Speaker 2: zero target. He was also demanding net zero four years
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Speaker 2: ago as Trade minister.
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Speaker 7: The world has moved and we need to move as well.
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Speaker 2: We can move towards net zero keeping our economy strong.
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Speaker 2: It's the same story with Angus Taylor, who's now tipped
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Speaker 2: to replace Lean, is demanding no to the net zero
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Speaker 2: target four years ago as Industry Minister. He said, yes,
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Speaker 2: the vision here is to take practical action to achieve
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Speaker 2: net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 1: When we say we're going to do something, we do it.
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Speaker 2: So these liberals are now going to seem insincere, not
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Speaker 2: driven by the facts when they now switch one hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty degrees and say net zero must go. I mean,
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Speaker 2: how is that going to seem, especially to the many
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Speaker 2: Australians who treat global warming as a religion, and that
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Speaker 2: zero was a holy crusade. Now of course I've got it.
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Speaker 2: You know, this guy's going to have all the excuses
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Speaker 2: for once being for net zero. You know, the facts
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Speaker 2: have changed. But then back then we had to agree
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Speaker 2: to net zero. I mean the public demanded it, so
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Speaker 2: did the media. The ABC would have been crucified. But
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Speaker 2: how ironic the Liberals were crucified anyway in the very
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Speaker 2: next selection, especially by Till Party candidates just said no,
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Speaker 2: the Liberals don't really mean it when they say they
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Speaker 2: backed net zero. The heart's not in it. And they
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Speaker 2: were right. The Liberals just went along with global warming
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Speaker 2: because they didn't have the guts to argue back it.
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Speaker 2: As I said, cowardice has a price. And now the
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Speaker 2: Liberals are in even more strife trying to reverse what
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Speaker 2: they once said was great, just like their nuclear power ban.
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Speaker 2: Yet even now liberals on the left are still the
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Speaker 2: morning net zero. They claim all the people want it,
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Speaker 2: we must follow the people. Liberals like Senator Andrew Bragg
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Speaker 2: today prattling inane slogans.
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Speaker 8: The Australian people expect us to take emissions reduction seriously.
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Speaker 2: They believe in climate change. We believe in climate change,
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Speaker 2: Andrew saying I believe in climate change is meaningless. It's brainless.
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Speaker 2: It's just a religious catechism. It's not an argument. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I also believe the climate is changing, and even I
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Speaker 2: believe that our emissions would tend to warm the planet.
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Speaker 2: But that is not the argument at all. The real
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Speaker 2: argument is whether a slightly warming planet really is a
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Speaker 2: worse one, whether spending trillions of dollars are just seeming
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Speaker 2: to slow the warming is really worth it. I think
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Speaker 2: the liberals really must learn the lesson, at least asked.
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Speaker 2: There's always a price to pay for selling their souls
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Speaker 2: that please the green mob, and especially when reality hits
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Speaker 2: the fan, you fight for a reason or you drown
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Speaker 2: in stupidity. But like I said, the liberals are so
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Speaker 2: distracted by the brawling over its zero that the cup
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Speaker 2: of heat instead on Chris Bowen, climate Change and Energy Minister,
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Speaker 2: which is sad because this man is a walking billboard
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Speaker 2: for the craziness of the governments and at zero schemes.
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Speaker 2: Two more examples today. Now, the one that's got the
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Speaker 2: biggest attention, and is it even the maddest this one
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Speaker 2: that Bowen announced today forcing electricity companies to offer three
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Speaker 2: hours a day of free electricity in the middle of
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Speaker 2: the day, when there's now more soul of power than
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Speaker 2: we can use.
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Speaker 9: What it means is that energy companies will be required
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Speaker 9: to offer you, if you have a smart leader, three
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Speaker 9: hours of free power in the middle of the day
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Speaker 9: when we have so much sol leenergy in the system.
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Speaker 2: Now, when government tells you it's giving you something free,
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Speaker 2: you know it's a lie. Someone must always pay for it,
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Speaker 2: usually you. Now, in this case, the power companies say
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Speaker 2: they'll have to pay to provide this free electricity, and
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Speaker 2: of course that cost will be passed on to you,
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Speaker 2: whatever Bone says. But there's more. You can only get
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Speaker 2: this free power by having a smart meter, which can
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Speaker 2: cost to get installed, and it gives electricity companies the
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Speaker 2: power to switch off your electricity if they're short of it,
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Speaker 2: and to save the money that Bone claims you must
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Speaker 2: switch on appliances like dishwashers in the day when power
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Speaker 2: is free. There's another catch. This free power comes mostly
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Speaker 2: from solar panels that people paid to put on their
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Speaker 2: roofs now. If everyone gets that solar power free for
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Speaker 2: three hours, they don't have panels themselves. Why should you
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Speaker 2: go to the expense of stalling installing your own for true,
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Speaker 2: there is some upside to this socialist scheme. If it
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Speaker 2: does take off, it should remove pressure from electricity suppliers
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Speaker 2: at PIAG demands in the evenings. And that's good. But
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Speaker 2: that brings me to Bones's other wild plan to fix
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Speaker 2: exactly that problem. The government is funding new chargers for
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Speaker 2: electric vehicles, charges that can also drain your car of
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Speaker 2: power if the government needs that electricity instead.
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Speaker 9: This says a car charger, but this is a car
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Speaker 9: charger with the difference. This is one of our very
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Speaker 9: first vehicle degree charging. This bid which belongs to Ben.
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Speaker 9: Here is a battery on wheels and Ben. Now with
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Speaker 9: this great charger, supported by our government and by Amber,
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Speaker 9: what can you do with it?
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Speaker 6: We can charge our home and on days when the
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Speaker 6: network needs a hand with more power, we can contendancy netw.
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Speaker 2: When the network needs a hand. I mean, how many
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Speaker 2: people would donate the electricity in their car to help
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Speaker 2: stop blackouts when that would leave them without a character?
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Speaker 2: Power really does still cut out? Join me every Tuesday's
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Speaker 2: National Center the met Canavan form of resources. Mister Matt,
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Speaker 2: good to see you, and let's fus Bones planned a
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Speaker 2: force electricity supplies so off for three hours a day
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Speaker 2: of free power to encourage people to use electricity then
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Speaker 2: and not at night when you know supplies can be short.
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Speaker 2: This should at least save some of the money, shouldn't it.
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Speaker 10: Well, Before I come to a view on that, Andrew,
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Speaker 10: I just want to know whether Chris is throwing in
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Speaker 10: a free set of steak knives as well at the
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Speaker 10: same time. That might make a difference between whether I
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Speaker 10: sign up or not. But I just wit listened to
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Speaker 10: your clips there, and man, I mean that guy does
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Speaker 10: sound like a used car salesman, doesn't he is.
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Speaker 1: It's all just too.
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Speaker 10: Good to be true. And I believe even the common
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Speaker 10: sense with the Austrange people that they understand that when
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Speaker 10: they're being sold apop, when they're being talked to by
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Speaker 10: snake or salesman, when they're being told something that is
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Speaker 10: too good to be true. And this is certainly that,
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Speaker 10: as you've outlined just earlier, someone's going to have to
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Speaker 10: pay for this. If you're going to provide free something
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Speaker 10: free at some time of the day, at another time
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Speaker 10: of the day, it's going to have to be more expensive.
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Speaker 10: And it just so happens that those times of the
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Speaker 10: days have to be more expensive. In their evenings is
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Speaker 10: when most Australians need to use their power.
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Speaker 1: That's when they come home from work.
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Speaker 10: Typically, that's when the air conditioners go on, the TVs
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Speaker 10: go on. And I don't think we want to live
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Speaker 10: in a country where you're worried about how much can
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Speaker 10: it cost to sit back after work and watch a
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Speaker 10: sports game or watch a movie, or heat or cool
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Speaker 10: your home to the temperature you have. I mean you
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Speaker 10: come back to the point here that why has life
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Speaker 10: gotten so much worse since we signed up to this
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Speaker 10: net zero ideology? Why is the price of everything so high?
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Speaker 10: Why has the standard of living gone back more than
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Speaker 10: ten years? Why has everything everything crumbling in our country?
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Speaker 10: The cost of building things, our roads, our hospitals, everything
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Speaker 10: has gone to the dogs. And I do think it
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Speaker 10: is because we have obsessed here over one particular thing,
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Speaker 10: getting our emissions down as low as possible, as fast
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Speaker 10: as possible. And we've done that so much that we're
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Speaker 10: now racing double where we're going double the speed of
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Speaker 10: the rest of the advanced world. Forget about China and India,
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Speaker 10: they're obviously on a different strategphere, but we're cutting our
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Speaker 10: missions now double the rate of other advanced economies like
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Speaker 10: the US, Europe, Japan, Korea. That question has to be asked,
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Speaker 10: why why are we imposing this burden on the Australian
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Speaker 10: people when doing so provides no benefit. It doesn't help
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Speaker 10: the environment for a country of one percent of global
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Speaker 10: emissions to go double the speed of the rest of
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Speaker 10: the world.
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Speaker 2: Well, don't forget the small point, Matt of having a
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Speaker 2: government that now thinks it's its role to tell the
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Speaker 2: suppliers of products we use to sell them at certain
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Speaker 2: times for free. I mean, seriously, what wow is that
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Speaker 2: our capitalism now works.
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Speaker 10: That's socialism and that zero is socialism. It's got to
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Speaker 10: be socialistic to have the government direct you, tell you
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Speaker 10: what to do, and it's a centrally planned system. They're
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Speaker 10: marketing something in twenty fifty. As I've said, even Stalin
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Speaker 10: on he tried to plan things over five years. Chris
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Speaker 10: Bowen thinks he should plan things over twenty five years
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Speaker 10: and tell you what to do and control what car
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Speaker 10: you buy, what now, what power you get Eventually will
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Speaker 10: have to be what food we eat. Everything has to
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Speaker 10: be controlled to get to net zero, and if it
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Speaker 10: doesn't need to be controlled. If we're just naturally going
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Speaker 10: to get there anyway, why do we need any of
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Speaker 10: these government programs.
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Speaker 1: It will happen.
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Speaker 10: So, by definition, a net zero plan that has government
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Speaker 10: directed has to be a centrally planned socialist state.
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Speaker 2: Well, just quickly, how about crispone funding charges for electric
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Speaker 2: vehicles that can also drain them of electricus to be
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Speaker 2: when there's not enough in the grid.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just I don't think the Australian people want
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Speaker 10: a connection directly to government departments so they can control
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Speaker 10: their home. You know, when I see those little three
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Speaker 10: holes around my house in the plugs, they're a little
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Speaker 10: bit scary because you know, if you put the wrong
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Speaker 10: thing in them, that could be the end of you.
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Speaker 10: I don't really want them connected to the tax office,
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Speaker 10: connected to the Department of Climate Change, connected to my
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Speaker 10: local energy company, and then being able to control my
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Speaker 10: own home. I mean, that's why, that's the fundamental reason, Andrew,
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Speaker 10: why the Liberal and Nationals Party should always have opposed
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Speaker 10: this madness. Because if there's one thing I support and
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Speaker 10: while I got involved in politics, it is to defend
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Speaker 10: the right of every Australian to enjoy the quiet enjoyment
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Speaker 10: of their own home with their family. I think that
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Speaker 10: when you go into your own home and close the door,
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Speaker 10: that's your little castle and the government doesn't have a
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Speaker 10: right to come in and tell you what to do.
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Speaker 10: But you can see where this is headed with this
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Speaker 10: net zero plan, where they are going to go to
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Speaker 10: try and control your reckon is another scheme in Queensland
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Speaker 10: and my home state, where they can switch off your reconditioning,
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Speaker 10: switch off your reconditioning if they need. If it's too
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Speaker 10: hot and the grid's over burdens, they can make it
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Speaker 10: hotter for you in your own home. And yes they
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Speaker 10: say those things are voluntary right now, but we know
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Speaker 10: that's the first step and the people that do sign up.
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Speaker 10: You have a look in Queensland about these schemes. What
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Speaker 10: ends up happening is that people are signing up to
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Speaker 10: have these switch off schemes end up being from the
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Speaker 10: poorer suburbs of our city. Those often climbate conscious voters
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Speaker 10: city typically don't sign up because they can afford it.
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Speaker 10: They can afford it, they don't need to sign up
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Speaker 10: where they can pay the high prices, where it's the
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Speaker 10: poor suck pay the price for this net zero will.
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Speaker 2: Come a time when they also say you can't eat
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Speaker 2: meat more than I don't know two times a week.
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Speaker 2: That's something you wait. If this is not check, mccanavan
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Speaker 2: got to go. Thank you so much indeed for your time.
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Speaker 2: After the break fact checking the baganda of government climate
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Speaker 2: advisor Matt Keane and one of the world's most famous
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Speaker 2: climate commentators will come on to tell us what the
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Speaker 2: Albanizi government still doesn't get. Now before we do that
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Speaker 2: fact checking of government propaganda to news today that wipe
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Speaker 2: the smirk off the Treasurer's face. The Reserve Bank today
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Speaker 2: had bad news for Australia and more proof to the
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Speaker 2: Albanizi government is bungling the economy. There was no surprise
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Speaker 2: in the bank's big call and no change today in
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Speaker 2: interest rates. The cash rates stays at three point six percent.
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Speaker 2: But the bad news was in the Reserve Bank's updated
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Speaker 2: forecast for the economy, almost all for the worse. For
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Speaker 2: the next quarter, unemployment is expected to be higher than thought.
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Speaker 2: Inflation as well. The CPI. In fact, the trimmed mean
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Speaker 2: inflation with the bank, which looks at most in deciding
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Speaker 2: interest rate cuts, is now tip to go up more
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Speaker 2: one half a percentage point higher than was thought to
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Speaker 2: three point two percent, simply too high, and higher than
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Speaker 2: the growth in GDP, which is expected to go up
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Speaker 2: a little more than expected to one point eight percent,
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Speaker 2: which is still weak. In fact, the Reserve Bank suggests
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Speaker 2: that there would now be only one more rate cut
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Speaker 2: next year. That's it. So the Treasurer of minutes later
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Speaker 2: in Parliament looked grim. The usual politics will be played
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Speaker 2: by those opposite. We've made a lot of progress together
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Speaker 2: in our economy. We know there's more work to do
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Speaker 2: and we've acknowledged that throughout. The Opposition leader went for
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's throat to the Prome Minister could all
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Speaker 2: only say in reply that he was, you know, giving
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Speaker 2: us handouts which are paid by you to to He's
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Speaker 2: the cost of living that has felt by you.
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Speaker 6: Australians have just been denied a Christmas rate cut because
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Speaker 6: of Labour's reckless spending. Thirty two percent of house hils
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Speaker 6: are going without food or skipping meals, and in some
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Speaker 6: suburbs ninety percent are struggling to pay their mortgage. Labor
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Speaker 6: has just killed a Christmas rate cut. Is this what
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Speaker 6: the Prime Minister meant? When he promised that life would
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Speaker 6: be cheaper under him.
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Speaker 9: We have implemented a consistent policy of support of cost
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Speaker 9: of living measures.
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Speaker 2: Joining me your scone New's Business editor Ros Greenwood, Ross Greenwood,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Inflation is back
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Speaker 2: at least well, I don't know for a year or more.
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Speaker 2: Unemployment is up and growth is still weak. I tell
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Speaker 2: you what, this is not a great set of numbers.
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Speaker 11: Look, it's pretty tough for the Reserve Bank right now
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Speaker 11: to try and work this out, and so as a result,
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Speaker 11: it's going to do nothing. He will do nothing for
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Speaker 11: a long period of time. Even the money markets say
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Speaker 11: that if there is an interstrate cut coming and the
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Speaker 11: Reserve Bank's got one sort of in their modeling, that's
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Speaker 11: not going to happen until.
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Speaker 1: The middle of next year.
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Speaker 11: But even then you're going to see a lot of
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Speaker 11: data between now and then that could suggest the economy
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Speaker 11: is not growing, the unemployment rates rising, and then you've
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Speaker 11: got inflation which is also rising now and probably like
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Speaker 11: that it continue to rise with energy prices increasing. So
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Speaker 11: the issue is what to do, And the point is
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Speaker 11: the Reserve Bank's best guess is do nothing, sit on
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Speaker 11: your hands, keep interest rates on hold and just watch
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Speaker 11: and see what happens next. But the real issue, as
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Speaker 11: you point out, is that if unemployment keeps on rising
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Speaker 11: from its current levels of around four and a half percent,
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Speaker 11: then you know, at some point the other mandate for
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Speaker 11: the Reserve Bank is not just controlling inflation but also
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Speaker 11: keeping the unemployment rate down. They might have to actually
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Speaker 11: start cutting interest rates to address a rising unemployment rate
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Speaker 11: in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, we're not the yet. They want to be alarmist,
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Speaker 2: but it is perishly indicative of a country that might
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Speaker 2: be going to stagflation at some stage, which is the
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Speaker 2: worst of all possible worlds. Now, on the blame front,
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Speaker 2: the Treasurer today said, none of this is his father.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't because of high government spending. Although I wonder
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Speaker 2: who on earth is creating all this extra spending. Then
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Speaker 2: what do you make of it?
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Speaker 11: Well, there is no doubt that the one thing that
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Speaker 11: the government can have the finger pointed at it for
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Speaker 11: is the lack of productivity.
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Speaker 1: It's on its watch.
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Speaker 11: It's really got worse under the labor government, and so
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Speaker 11: as a result, the economy can't grow faster now with
20:39
Speaker 11: all of the spending that the government has done. It
20:41
Speaker 11: could be excused if the economy were growing. Now, the
20:45
Speaker 11: long term average growth rate for Australia's economy is three percent,
20:48
Speaker 11: give or take. Now, at the moment it's growing at
20:51
Speaker 11: one point eight percent. If it was growing closer to
20:53
Speaker 11: its long term average of three percent, much of the
20:56
Speaker 11: spending the government has done would be basically overtaken by
21:00
Speaker 11: tax takes. Now, the second part about this is the
21:03
Speaker 11: reason why it's actually in a pretty decent budget position
21:06
Speaker 11: is because there's lots of people in jobs. But as
21:09
Speaker 11: we've just indicated, the unemployment rate is starting to rise,
21:12
Speaker 11: so that is changing. And also most of the jobs
21:16
Speaker 11: created over the past four years have been on government
21:19
Speaker 11: related programs and really at some point that is going
21:23
Speaker 11: to have to stop, because really that's part of the
21:26
Speaker 11: reason why the private sector is not able to afford
21:29
Speaker 11: to get workers, is not able to afford to invest
21:32
Speaker 11: to build new homes. He is not able to invest
21:34
Speaker 11: to actually create the economic growth that Australia needs to
21:38
Speaker 11: basically afford the government spending.
21:43
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tip ross that you're optimistic in
21:46
Speaker 2: saying that's got to stop. It won't stop those primarily
21:50
Speaker 2: those public servants, labor voters. There's no way labor is
21:53
Speaker 2: going to do that. And don't forget also the other
21:57
Speaker 2: driver of what little growth is who has been but
22:02
Speaker 2: growth in the tax taker as well, particularly mass migration,
22:06
Speaker 2: So that's not going to be wound back much either.
22:09
Speaker 2: How do we get out of all.
22:10
Speaker 11: This, Well, it is the government effectively either getting lucky
22:15
Speaker 11: so that comes from China and a resources boom and
22:19
Speaker 11: Jim Charmers has been lucky in the past where that
22:22
Speaker 11: has really saved him in many ways, or alternatively, you
22:26
Speaker 11: get a situation where AI or we get some sort
22:30
Speaker 11: of massive breakthrough technologically, but you can't bank on that.
22:34
Speaker 11: Of course, that's the issue. So to your point about
22:36
Speaker 11: the government continuing to spend we heard it today even
22:40
Speaker 11: Chris Bowen, the Energy Minister, saying there's going to be
22:43
Speaker 11: three hours free electricity for people in the middle of
22:45
Speaker 11: the day.
22:45
Speaker 2: Well, who's paying for that?
22:47
Speaker 11: For goodness acts Well he says, oh, that'll come because
22:49
Speaker 11: well you know, it just is another example of the
22:52
Speaker 11: government trying to asswage people's higher costs by effectively taking
22:57
Speaker 11: other taxpayers money and providing them with some support and relief.
23:01
Speaker 11: So this is a big issue and it doesn't necessarily
23:05
Speaker 11: help the overall structural problems.
23:07
Speaker 2: So that Australia has gone right now, absolutely correct off screen.
23:12
Speaker 2: Would thank you so much for that analysis, really appreciated.
23:17
Speaker 2: But back to this climate debating Canberra, because what's really
23:20
Speaker 2: at stake isn't the planet, it's our jobs, our income,
23:25
Speaker 2: our wealth, all threatened by the Albanize Governm's net zero agenda.
23:29
Speaker 2: Now the government today again mocked the Liberals for even
23:32
Speaker 2: considering scrapping that target of cutting emissions through net zero
23:36
Speaker 2: by twenty fifty and claimed instead that using wind and
23:40
Speaker 2: solar power, not fossil fuels like cole that was the
23:44
Speaker 2: way to go. But is the rest of the world
23:47
Speaker 2: as stuck on this net zero target? Well, yes, claim
23:52
Speaker 2: Matt Kean today he's head of the climate change authority
23:54
Speaker 2: that advises the government. The rest of the world is acting.
23:58
Speaker 2: Eighty four percent of the world world's GDP has committed
24:01
Speaker 2: to net zero emissions. Is that true? I mean China
24:05
Speaker 2: and India alone have instead increased the missions and vastly
24:10
Speaker 2: and world A missions last year hit a new record
24:13
Speaker 2: to me that suggests there's actually a lot of backtracking
24:17
Speaker 2: and of the kind that we saw last week from
24:19
Speaker 2: Bill Gates, the Microsoft megabillionaire who once wrote a scary
24:23
Speaker 2: book about how global warming would kill countless people, but
24:26
Speaker 2: last week said, actually, it won't really lead to humanity's demise.
24:30
Speaker 2: People are going to be able to thrive in most
24:32
Speaker 2: places on Earth for the foreseeable future, and we should
24:36
Speaker 2: focus more on just adapting to a warmer world. Well,
24:41
Speaker 2: oddly enough, that has been the argument for many years
24:44
Speaker 2: of one of the world's top climate policy commentators, Beyond Lomborg,
24:48
Speaker 2: has been on the show several times already. Beyond Lomborg
24:51
Speaker 2: as president of the Copenhagen Consensus, visiting fellow at Stanford
24:55
Speaker 2: University's Hoover Institution, and author of best sellers such as
24:59
Speaker 2: False Alarm, Climate Change Panic costss trillions, hurts the poor,
25:03
Speaker 2: and fails to fix the planet. Bjorn, lovely to see
25:07
Speaker 2: you again, Thanks so much for your time. Net zero
25:11
Speaker 2: So many countries, Yes, they did make so many promises
25:15
Speaker 2: to cut emissions to net zero by twenty fifty, but
25:18
Speaker 2: how many are actually delivering?
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Speaker 12: Well, so Climate Action Track actually says no country is
25:26
Speaker 12: delivering on the one point five degree So look, most
25:29
Speaker 12: countries are trying somewhat as you point out a lot
25:33
Speaker 12: of countries have signed up but are not actually doing it.
25:36
Speaker 12: You know, China, India and many other countries have no
25:39
Speaker 12: intentions of putting a climate target in front of their
25:43
Speaker 12: getting out of poverty target. So in reality we have
25:48
Speaker 12: a few rich countries now no longer the US, but EU, Australia,
25:53
Speaker 12: New Zealand a few other countries. Canada probably also trying
25:58
Speaker 12: to But of course, once the rubber hits the road,
26:01
Speaker 12: once it actually starts getting costly to do these climate targets,
26:05
Speaker 12: most countries are going to default.
26:10
Speaker 2: You know, in mccoluy yesterday, Litt had all the evidence
26:13
Speaker 2: I had that we've reached peak global war peak at
26:17
Speaker 2: zero commitments, so we were on the backsliding since is
26:23
Speaker 2: there now you see it too.
26:26
Speaker 12: I certainly think that that's what we are seeing. I mean,
26:29
Speaker 12: if you look at the EU where I live, we
26:32
Speaker 12: used to be incredibly worried about climate change, and then
26:35
Speaker 12: we realized, oh, there's a lot of other issues. You've
26:37
Speaker 12: just talked a lot about the cost of living crisis,
26:40
Speaker 12: but obviously also defense you have a big worry about pensions.
26:44
Speaker 12: In the longer run, there are lots of other concerns
26:47
Speaker 12: for people, and we're now starting to realize, yes, climate
26:50
Speaker 12: change was not our only concern. And in that sense,
26:53
Speaker 12: I really think the Bill Gates' new essay can help
26:58
Speaker 12: bring this about getting people to realize, yes, climate change
27:02
Speaker 12: is a real issue, but it's just one of many
27:05
Speaker 12: things we need to fix in the twenty first century.
27:08
Speaker 12: And spending trillions here and forgetting to spend it everywhere else,
27:12
Speaker 12: it's just not a good idea.
27:15
Speaker 2: Well on that very point, I mean reading recent pieces
27:19
Speaker 2: of yours. For instance, you've kind of research showing the
27:22
Speaker 2: world is spent more than twenty trillion dollars Australian twenty
27:28
Speaker 2: trillion to try to sub global warming and switch to
27:31
Speaker 2: win and solar other renewables. What have we got for
27:35
Speaker 2: all that massive spending?
27:39
Speaker 1: Very little? So this is one of the big problems.
27:41
Speaker 12: Bill Gates tells us you need to start thinking about
27:45
Speaker 12: when you do climate policy, what's the impact on human welfare?
27:49
Speaker 12: How much does that help the world. And the truth
27:51
Speaker 12: is spending countless trillions of dollars will only deliver a
27:56
Speaker 12: little bit of temperature relief by the end of the century,
28:00
Speaker 12: just to give you one example. So we know this
28:03
Speaker 12: is mostly going to be rich countries. If all rich
28:06
Speaker 12: countries to Australia, the rest of the OCD, including the US,
28:11
Speaker 12: would actually cut their emissions to netserup by twenty fifty,
28:15
Speaker 12: which is going to cost US a lot hundreds of
28:18
Speaker 12: trillions of dollars US dollars over this century. If they
28:22
Speaker 12: managed to do that, If you run that through the
28:25
Speaker 12: UN Climate Model, the difference by the end of the
28:28
Speaker 12: century will be less than zero point one degree centigree.
28:33
Speaker 12: That's simply because we're no longer the big part of
28:36
Speaker 12: the emitters. We're only going to be about thirteen percent
28:39
Speaker 12: of emissions and if we go to net zero will
28:42
Speaker 12: just be six percent. So yes, we can cut a
28:45
Speaker 12: little bit at very high cost, but you will have
28:48
Speaker 12: no impact on climate now, you will not be able
28:50
Speaker 12: to measure it by mid century, and even by the
28:53
Speaker 12: end of the century it'll be less than zero point
28:55
Speaker 12: one degree.
28:56
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of money to do very little good.
28:59
Speaker 12: That's probably not the right way to try to do
29:01
Speaker 12: human welfare and actually make the world a better place.
29:06
Speaker 2: So what should Australia do instead.
29:09
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for asking.
29:11
Speaker 12: Fundamentally, this is about finding technologies that make cutting carbon
29:16
Speaker 12: emissions this desirable.
29:19
Speaker 1: So if we could.
29:20
Speaker 12: Innovate green energy that's cheaper than fossil fuels, everyone will switch.
29:25
Speaker 12: One good example is fourth generation nuclear. Remember, in rich
29:28
Speaker 12: countries we have only made nuclear more and more expensive,
29:33
Speaker 12: but not so in China. China's actually as you would imagine,
29:36
Speaker 12: when you build more nuclear power plants, they become cheaper
29:39
Speaker 12: and cheaper. That's because they don't overregulate. They regulate, but
29:44
Speaker 12: they don't overregulate. If we could get fourth generation nuclear,
29:48
Speaker 12: which will be inherently safe and will be type approved
29:52
Speaker 12: at the factory, so we don't have these ongoing litigation
29:56
Speaker 12: that takes years and years, but instead get this out
30:00
Speaker 12: italy and cheaply. We could get cheap, reliable and affordable
30:06
Speaker 12: electricity to everyone at very low cost. That would be
30:11
Speaker 12: a way that you can ensure everyone, including China, India
30:14
Speaker 12: and everybody else would switch. So what we need to
30:17
Speaker 12: do is to invest a lot more in green energy
30:19
Speaker 12: R and D. This will be much cheaper than what
30:22
Speaker 12: we're currently doing, and it will not just make Australia
30:26
Speaker 12: cut a little bit of its emissions, but it will
30:28
Speaker 12: make everyone in the world cut a lot in the
30:31
Speaker 12: long run.
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Speaker 1: That's the only way you're going to solve climate change.
30:35
Speaker 2: Beyond Lomborg so naive there you tell us to invest
30:38
Speaker 2: more in fourth generation nuclear power. We just had an
30:42
Speaker 2: election where the government said no nuclear power must be banned.
30:46
Speaker 2: I suspect our government is the mad ones in this
30:48
Speaker 2: part of the argument. Beyond Lomborg. Always a pleasure talking
30:52
Speaker 2: to you. Thank you so much for your time.
30:54
Speaker 1: Thank you.
30:56
Speaker 2: After the break. New York, America's biggest city is about
31:00
Speaker 2: to make a socialist. It's new mayor Donald Trump's is
31:03
Speaker 2: actually a communist. What is happening to the capitalist capital
31:11
Speaker 2: of the world? Tomorrow? In New York, America's biggest city,
31:14
Speaker 2: It's going to vote for its new mayor. It's almost
31:16
Speaker 2: to be thirty four year old Muslim socialists, Zoran Mamdani.
31:21
Speaker 2: And like a true socialist, Mandani is promising lots of
31:25
Speaker 2: free stuff, even government owned grocery stores.
31:29
Speaker 12: I'll freeze the rent for millions of tenants, make buses
31:31
Speaker 12: fast and free, and deliver universal childcare.
31:34
Speaker 1: And before you ask, I'll pay for it by taxing
31:37
Speaker 1: the rich.
31:38
Speaker 2: Now, this guy is born in Uganda and is still
31:40
Speaker 2: way ahead in the polls even though its flirted with
31:42
Speaker 2: radical isn'tness demanded boycotts of Israel. Once called police racist
31:47
Speaker 2: who should be defunded. He's reversed himself on that last one,
31:51
Speaker 2: but just last year he still linked the New York
31:53
Speaker 2: Police Department with the Israel Defense Forces as both agents
31:58
Speaker 2: of oppression.
32:00
Speaker 12: We have to make clear that when the who the
32:03
Speaker 12: mis is, it's the.
32:07
Speaker 2: Least ideas US President Donald Trump is dead against Mandani,
32:11
Speaker 2: but that's done no good either.
32:14
Speaker 8: Zorhan Mundanmi thirty four year old democratic socialist.
32:17
Speaker 1: He's the primunist, non socialist communist. He's far worse than
32:21
Speaker 1: a SCE.
32:21
Speaker 8: Some people have compared him to a left wing version
32:24
Speaker 8: of you, charismatic breaking the old rules.
32:27
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
32:29
Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than
32:31
Speaker 2: hemrahy A Patavandanne's success is that he's run against no hopers.
32:35
Speaker 2: I mean current mayor Eric Adams faces allegations of bribery
32:38
Speaker 2: and corruption, had to drop out. Democrat Andrew Cuomo had
32:42
Speaker 2: to quit his mayor himself after allegations of sexual harassment,
32:46
Speaker 2: which he denies. And Curtis silwow is founder of the
32:49
Speaker 2: vigilante group Guardian Angels, who's a no chance hothead who's
32:53
Speaker 2: just splitting the vote on the right, joining me as
32:55
Speaker 2: Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House spokesman. Saw and
33:00
Speaker 2: Spice are always great to see. What does it say
33:04
Speaker 2: about America today that New York seems about to elect
33:09
Speaker 2: a socialist or, as Donald Trump says, a communist.
33:13
Speaker 13: Oh, it's worse than that, Andrew. Unfortunately, this is a
33:17
Speaker 13: guy who has sympathized with terrorists, who hangs around with communists,
33:21
Speaker 13: whose policies are off the chart to the far left,
33:25
Speaker 13: and what is supposed to be that shining beacon of
33:28
Speaker 13: freedom and capitalism that New York has always been associated with.
33:33
Speaker 13: It's a scary move. But the thing that's sad to
33:36
Speaker 13: me is the choice that New Yorkers have so right now.
33:40
Speaker 13: Zorhan Mundami, the socialist slash communist, terrorst sympathizing nutjob, looks
33:45
Speaker 13: like he is on his way to getting re elected.
33:47
Speaker 13: But if Andrew Cuomo were to pull off a miracle,
33:51
Speaker 13: you're basically settling for a scandal played former governor that
33:56
Speaker 13: resigned from office as your consolation prize.
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Speaker 2: I didn't get how America's biggest city throws up candidates
34:06
Speaker 2: who have fruit loops, disgraced, accused of all sorts of things.
34:13
Speaker 2: I mean, where are the normal people.
34:15
Speaker 13: In a city that big, with that many successful people,
34:18
Speaker 13: with that many egos. You've got this thirty two year old,
34:22
Speaker 13: inexperienced candidate that ousted really experienced folks. And I will
34:29
Speaker 13: give it to him. He did run a good campaign.
34:31
Speaker 13: He ran an aggressive social media campaign. New York's a
34:35
Speaker 13: Democratic leaning state, but the city, in particular the boroughs,
34:38
Speaker 13: are very very left leaning. I find it fascinating that
34:42
Speaker 13: in a city this big, with so many influential people,
34:45
Speaker 13: so many talented people, so many people full of ego
34:47
Speaker 13: and success, that this was the best option that they
34:52
Speaker 13: gave the Democratic Party, right. It actually is just a
34:56
Speaker 13: horrible horror indictment on the state of the Democratic Party,
34:59
Speaker 13: especially in New York's.
35:01
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder whether it reflects a wider problem. I mean,
35:04
Speaker 2: a drift to the left in America, particularly among the young,
35:09
Speaker 2: a radicalization of the Democrat Party which seems to have
35:12
Speaker 2: been knocked off its access by the success of Trump.
35:16
Speaker 2: And is you know, you've got a whole wing there
35:19
Speaker 2: going on, the Bernie Sanders left and the hard lift.
35:24
Speaker 2: Is there an ideological drift in America?
35:27
Speaker 13: There is there's this fantasy that somehow these far left socialist,
35:31
Speaker 13: communist policies are the panacea for so many things that
35:34
Speaker 13: are wrong. The one thing that I think is unique
35:36
Speaker 13: about this election tomorrow, Andrew, this is the first time
35:39
Speaker 13: we're going to have like an executive. When Zorhan Mondami
35:42
Speaker 13: wins the mayoral race in New York City, he will
35:45
Speaker 13: be in charge. He can try to do I think
35:48
Speaker 13: he will be very unsuccessful, but he will nonetheless try
35:52
Speaker 13: to implement the policies that he's been talking about. And
35:55
Speaker 13: why I think that's not a bad thing is that
35:57
Speaker 13: I think for all of these young Americans in particular,
35:59
Speaker 13: that have been wooed into believing that this is the
36:02
Speaker 13: this is the solution, I think finally they're going to
36:06
Speaker 13: see in practice that these are nutjob kind of policy
36:10
Speaker 13: prescriptions that they're being told are the remedy for so
36:13
Speaker 13: many problems that we face.
36:16
Speaker 2: Well, one would hope that that listen is learned. I mean,
36:19
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see government run grocery stores. Let's
36:22
Speaker 2: see how that works out.
36:25
Speaker 13: Government run grocery, free internet, free housing, free education, free childcare.
36:30
Speaker 13: I mean, and by the way, I hate that phrase.
36:32
Speaker 13: There is no such thing as free these guys love
36:34
Speaker 13: to talk about. It's like right, it's not free, and
36:37
Speaker 13: they sell people on stuff. And this is why it's nuts.
36:41
Speaker 13: It can't work, It won't work. There's a reason that
36:44
Speaker 13: it's not free, because it's not. Somebody's got to pick
36:47
Speaker 13: up the tab. And all these people that are going
36:48
Speaker 13: to get stuck with it are going to say, too bad,
36:50
Speaker 13: We're out of here.
36:51
Speaker 1: We're moving to Florida.
36:53
Speaker 2: What a mess? Shuld Spicer. I mentioned last night that
36:57
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was threatened to send the army into Nigeria
37:01
Speaker 2: to something the messacre of Christians thereby Islam's terrorists if
37:05
Speaker 2: the Nigerian government didn't get off its backside, and that
37:08
Speaker 2: that's caused outrage from that government, and it's actually now
37:12
Speaker 2: triggered Nigeria's northern neighbor, Chad to close the border with
37:16
Speaker 2: Nigeria to stop Islamist fleeing and hiding in their country.
37:22
Speaker 2: But is it really possible the president would send you
37:26
Speaker 2: as troops to invade Nigeria.
37:29
Speaker 13: Sure as possible, And frankly, I think what's happening to
37:32
Speaker 13: Christians in Nigeria. The one thing I'll say by him
37:35
Speaker 13: calling this out was it finally drew the needed attention
37:39
Speaker 13: to what's going on there in Nigeria. I don't think
37:42
Speaker 13: it's gotten the attention it deserves, not just here in America,
37:45
Speaker 13: but probably worldwide. So if anything, the President calls so
37:49
Speaker 13: much needed attention to a huge issue that's happening there.
37:52
Speaker 1: And look, obviously I'm sure that.
37:56
Speaker 13: From a Christian standpoint, they would appreciate any support they
37:59
Speaker 13: can get for their own safety. So there's a difference
38:01
Speaker 13: between going and invading a country and providing a peacekeeping
38:05
Speaker 13: you know, troops to take care of it and to
38:10
Speaker 13: make sure that human beings are protected. Now, with Donald Trump,
38:15
Speaker 13: sometimes you know, there's always a spectrum of you know,
38:18
Speaker 13: him maybe throwing something out there and then hoping he
38:21
Speaker 13: can negotiate from there as a first salvo. So I
38:25
Speaker 13: don't know what the full plan is here, but I
38:28
Speaker 13: will say that I appreciate the fact that it's calling
38:30
Speaker 13: attention to this, to this very egregious issue.
38:33
Speaker 2: Yes, and obviously the religious right is very pleased with this,
38:39
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure this is a threat that will
38:42
Speaker 2: be followed through on, and that's always dangerous if you
38:46
Speaker 2: get a reputation for unreliability not following through. But we
38:49
Speaker 2: shall see what happens. You're right, it's a genuine issue,
38:52
Speaker 2: and good on Trump for raising it. Shuan Spicer, thank
38:55
Speaker 2: you so much for your time.
38:57
Speaker 1: You met Andrew.
38:58
Speaker 13: Always pleasure to see you.
39:00
Speaker 2: The Lotus Poles just out say that socialists Zorn Mumdani
39:05
Speaker 2: is on average about fifteen points ahead of Andrew Cuomo.
39:09
Speaker 2: So wow. After the break of gym expels a woman
39:13
Speaker 2: for confronting a transwoman in her changing room, so many
39:22
Speaker 2: protesters now seem to be protesting about more than what
39:25
Speaker 2: they actually say. You take the ones who went feral
39:28
Speaker 2: today at a defense conference in Sydney, claiming to be
39:30
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian, anti Israel, angry that the conference included Israeli
39:35
Speaker 2: defense companies, yet they still decided to wrestle with our
39:39
Speaker 2: own police like they were the enemy. Thirteen arrests for
39:43
Speaker 2: things like assaulting police and resisting arrest Allegedly others in
39:47
Speaker 2: the crowd weren't charged, but they did insult police. Australie
39:51
Speaker 2: men and women are just trying to keep the peace.
39:53
Speaker 2: People like this protest then, and I.
39:56
Speaker 1: Don't tut, what did you think you're doing?
39:58
Speaker 2: The police force throwing off side with your erections.
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Speaker 4: You are.
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Speaker 12: Now.
40:06
Speaker 2: That's actually an organizer from Rising Tide, which is a
40:09
Speaker 2: group of global warming extremists against the fossil fuels. We
40:12
Speaker 2: need to keep on the lights, but it's now so
40:15
Speaker 2: bored with global warming that it's like Greta Tumberg screaming
40:18
Speaker 2: at Israel instead. And then today also there was this guy,
40:23
Speaker 2: professional protest Josh Lees, organizer of so many of Sydney's
40:28
Speaker 2: anti Israel protests. He also insulted police, claiming that attack
40:32
Speaker 2: the protesters look police are now their enemy. And when
40:37
Speaker 2: you actually go to Liz's profile in the Palestinian Action
40:40
Speaker 2: group website, you read that it's in deep protesting for
40:42
Speaker 2: almost anything that can be used to make Western civilization
40:46
Speaker 2: seem racist or mean, oppressive, planet wrecking and deadly. It
40:51
Speaker 2: reads like this. Lees forty one has been a further
40:54
Speaker 2: activist for two decades, campaigning for LGBT, writes, climate change
40:59
Speaker 2: and Black Lives Matter movements, and as a spokesman for
41:05
Speaker 2: the Lockdown to Zero COVID group too socialist run campaign
41:09
Speaker 2: pushing the lock New South Wales down until there was
41:11
Speaker 2: zero cases in twenty twenty one, and also a pancake
41:15
Speaker 2: flat economy. You're noticing that there's no mention of in
41:18
Speaker 2: protests against mass immigration or China or jihadis or whatever.
41:23
Speaker 2: It's essentially, in my opinion, protests against US and Israel,
41:29
Speaker 2: homeland of the Jews who helped found our Western civilization.
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Speaker 2: Joining me a Sky News host Anika di Giorgio Ama Schlift,
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Speaker 2: the research fellow of the Institute of Public Affairs, Hello
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Speaker 2: to you both me and the anti Israel protests seemed
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Speaker 2: to me to be a mask for anti the West
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Speaker 2: and anti Australia.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I completely agree with you, Andrew, but I'm actually
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Speaker 7: not even sure it's a mask. To me, it's pretty
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Speaker 7: blatant that so many these protesters are anti Australian, and
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Speaker 7: we've seen that time and time again.
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Speaker 1: I mean we've actually we've literally had them up there.
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Speaker 7: Burning the Australian flag and desecrating national symbols and there's
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Speaker 7: been no consequences up for these people. And listen, Australia
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Speaker 7: is a very tolerant and it's a very welcoming country.
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Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, Australians have said
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Speaker 7: enough is enough because they are proud of this country
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Speaker 7: and they are sick and tired of the lack of
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Speaker 7: leadership of holding these protesters who are anti Australian at
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Speaker 7: the end of the day.
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Speaker 2: And Danika, it's almost like going to the point where
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Speaker 2: you see that you know, portfolio, that omnibus sort of
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Speaker 2: cause of people like Josh Lee's. It's almost like you
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Speaker 2: feel obliged whatever they're against, we've got to before.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it feels a little bit like that. I've got
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Speaker 8: to say, firstly, off the bat, Andrew, when I first
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Speaker 8: saw this protest this morning, I thought to myself, do
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Speaker 8: any of them actually have a job? I mean, this
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Speaker 8: was happening at seven thirty eight am in the morning.
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Speaker 8: Why aren't they at work? It's a Tuesday morning. I
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Speaker 8: don't know if you remember, Andrew, we saw similar scenes
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Speaker 8: late last year in Melbourne. It was a protest outside
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Speaker 8: a major defense conference where a bunch of protesters caused
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Speaker 8: major issues. Police were called in, they had rocks pelted
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Speaker 8: at them and all sorts. But organizers there they were
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Speaker 8: holding up signs that said the colony will fall, the
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Speaker 8: colony as in US as in Australia. And you've got
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Speaker 8: to wonder, well, what do these protesters want? They don't
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Speaker 8: want peace, because you know they're very awfully quiet on
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Speaker 8: the Middle East right now. Yet week in week out,
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Speaker 8: they're still banging on about pro Palestine. They're not talking
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Speaker 8: about Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria. They don't seem to
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Speaker 8: want them to rid the world of weapons. They're not
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Speaker 8: out there talking about Hamas or China, or Iran or
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Speaker 8: Russia for that matter. And I had to ask myself
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Speaker 8: what is causing this anti West, anti Australia sentiment, And
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Speaker 8: I think it's got to do with culture wars. It's
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Speaker 8: starting in schools, universities. We're not they're like the absolute
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Speaker 8: cess pits for this nonsense Australia Day protest. We're seeing
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Speaker 8: it year in, year out. So it's this progressive left
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Speaker 8: that it is so determined now to tear down our values.
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Speaker 2: Well to the transfer the babe and something in Danika
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Speaker 2: picked up. American singer songwriter Tis Shaiman has posted a
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Speaker 2: video of a self confronting a man, well a trans
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Speaker 2: woman actually but whatever, who repeatedly entered the women's locker
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Speaker 2: room of her gym claim to be a woman.
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Speaker 3: Did you tell me or not?
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Speaker 11: That woman like.
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Speaker 2: Question? Exactly exactly.
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Speaker 3: Now he knows how to be a man, right now,
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Speaker 3: he knows how to be a man, stay out of
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Speaker 3: the woman's locker room. I'm a woman and I have
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Speaker 3: every right to not want a man in the restaurroom
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Speaker 3: when I'm naked. The girl's naked in there. Look at
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Speaker 3: him walking in there like it's okay. It's not okay.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's singing our claims. So the gym expelled her
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Speaker 2: instead of him or whatever. I guess she did yell,
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Speaker 2: but is that fair?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, there was a bit of yelling going on.
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Speaker 7: There's clear a lot of frustration, and I'm find of
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Speaker 7: the view that every single person needs to be treated
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Speaker 7: with respect. But unfortunately this is just the consequence of
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Speaker 7: a lack of leadership on the issue. And it's not
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Speaker 7: just happening in the United States, but it's happening also
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Speaker 7: in Australia, where we have a political class who is
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Speaker 7: unable to answer the simple question of what is the
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Speaker 7: definition of a woman? And we've seen that in Center
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Speaker 7: estimates where they dance around the topic. But what I
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Speaker 7: find really ironic is whilst we have this political class
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Speaker 7: who can't answer this very simple question because it's too
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Speaker 7: complicated for them, that the same ones advocating that things
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Speaker 7: like gender identity and sexuality should be taught to children
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Speaker 7: in schools as long as young as five, six, seven,
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Speaker 7: eight years old.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm with you Mia on the yelling. I don't
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Speaker 2: think that's appropriate in many circumstances at all, not even
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Speaker 2: that one. But what do you make of that, Danika?
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Speaker 8: Look, I agree, I don't think the yelling was appropriate,
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Speaker 8: But I say well done to this woman. I mean
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Speaker 8: she was saying that she was standing in a locker room,
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Speaker 8: which is meant to be a safe space for females
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Speaker 8: stark naked when a biological man who claims to be
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Speaker 8: a trans person walked in there. No woman should ever
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Speaker 8: feel violated like that. There could have been young children
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Speaker 8: in there as well. But don't think that Australia is immune.
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Speaker 8: We have got self id laws across this country, meaning
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Speaker 8: that you don't have to change your gender on your
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Speaker 8: birth certificate. So if a biological man who identifies as
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Speaker 8: a woman goes into a female only space and say
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Speaker 8: you know it, drops their pants in front of little
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Speaker 8: girls and women, that is perfectly okay under laws in
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Speaker 8: this country. But the problem is is that our biological
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Speaker 8: rights are being raised. It was a raised in twenty
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Speaker 8: thirteen when Julia Gillard amended the Sex Discrimination Act, removing
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Speaker 8: the definitions of a man and a woman, so basic
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Speaker 8: biology doesn't exist. And Andrew, I'll say this, this is
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Speaker 8: not a left versus right issue. It should not be controversial.
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Speaker 8: It's only been made controversial by politicians and a very
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Speaker 8: small amount of people who are entrenched in this gender ideology.
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Speaker 8: So I say good on this woman for saying the
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Speaker 8: quiet part out loud. We've got to start standing up
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Speaker 8: against this madness.
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Speaker 12: Mia.
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Speaker 2: You look at, among other things, energy policy for the IPA,
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Speaker 2: Chris Bun's plan to force electricity supplies to give everyone
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Speaker 2: free power for three hours in the middle of each
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Speaker 2: day when there's too much soul of power anyway, good.
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Speaker 7: Idea, terrible idea, terrible, terrible, terrible idea. With ideas like
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Speaker 7: these coming out of Chris Bowen, there is no wonder
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Speaker 7: that labor kept him in hiding during the federal election campaign.
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Speaker 7: But now he's out and about and he's sprouting just
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Speaker 7: terrible ideas like this, and no one can control him.
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Speaker 7: At the end of the day, the only thing I
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Speaker 7: can guarantee you, Andrew, is that nothing is free under
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Speaker 7: net zero. Net zero is destroying our economy, and I
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Speaker 7: don't think Chris Bowen actually understands how the energy system works.
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Speaker 7: The only thing I think that he understands is that
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Speaker 7: his time running perhaps the the biggest hoax in history
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Speaker 7: is quickly coming to an end. The center right is
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Speaker 7: waking up to the scan that is net zero, and
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Speaker 7: they'll start asking some questions. And at the end of
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Speaker 7: the day, as soon as you start asking questions, this
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Speaker 7: whole thing blows over because it cannot stand up for
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Speaker 7: the test.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why the liberals have got to get their
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Speaker 2: act into gear and focus on this. There's a target
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Speaker 2: rich environment in front of them if they only knew it.
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Speaker 2: Danika Di Giorgio Mierschlick, thank you very much to you both.
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Speaker 2: That's it for me. Coming up next, Sherry Marson. Good night,