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- 0:00Speaker 1: Kubbooms.
- 0:02Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
- 0:05Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
- 0:09Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
- 0:12Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
- 0:15Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Wow.
- 0:18Speaker 2: The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.
- 0:22Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
- 0:28Speaker 1: In the air everywhere.
- 0:31Speaker 3: The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Maller and Danny g
- 0:34Speaker 3: Radio As we Are plausibly live on a Saturday from
- 0:38Speaker 3: Radio Row the day for super insert wrong buzzer from
- 0:45Speaker 3: beautiful downtown San Francisco where Danny is it beautiful? Though? Well,
- 0:51Speaker 3: you know it's odd I misspoke the other night on
- 0:54Speaker 3: the Overnight show. I had said that they'd cleaned up
- 0:56Speaker 3: the area around what is this place called the it's
- 0:58Speaker 3: a convention center. This is the Moscone Center. Who's that is?
- 1:02Speaker 3: I like a former mayor or something like. I feel
- 1:03Speaker 3: like that's a politician or something. They must be named
- 1:05Speaker 3: after something, something famous, dude. Yeah, that's what you do
- 1:07Speaker 3: when you're a politician. You name stuff after yourself, right,
- 1:10Speaker 3: that's what you did anyway, So I said in a
- 1:13Speaker 3: previous on the Overnight Show, I'd said, well, you know,
- 1:15Speaker 3: walking around, I told the story. I actually was crossing
- 1:18Speaker 3: the street a couple blocks over and a dad in
- 1:22Speaker 3: a forty nine er Jersey was he was with this kid.
- 1:24Speaker 3: It was like seven or eight year old kid, and
- 1:27Speaker 3: he said he told his kids, I don't I don't
- 1:29Speaker 3: know the tweakers aren't here. I don't know where they went,
- 1:32Speaker 3: like somebody along that. I was like, it's the funniest
- 1:34Speaker 3: thing in the world, Like, why would you tell your
- 1:35Speaker 3: seven or eight year old give that? And I didn't
- 1:37Speaker 3: see any And then today when I came in, we
- 1:40Speaker 3: were walking around and it's like, if you go a
- 1:42Speaker 3: block and a half over, it's sodom and gomar, It's it's.
- 1:47Speaker 4: A tenderloin district over there. It's a shame. Though obviously
- 1:50Speaker 4: there are very beautiful parts. It's a Bay area, yeah, yeah,
- 1:53Speaker 4: it's and amazing parts of San Francisco. But downtown San
- 1:57Speaker 4: Francisco right now, oh my goodness, there are so many
- 2:01Speaker 4: zombies walking around. Yeah, and somebody needs to get in
- 2:03Speaker 4: here and help.
- 2:04Speaker 1: It's terrible.
- 2:05Speaker 3: And I saw one of the police officers of course,
- 2:08Speaker 3: they don't want to say anything on the record.
- 2:10Speaker 1: It's always off the record.
- 2:11Speaker 3: And they're like, yeah, you know this area, like this block,
- 2:13Speaker 3: you know, right around where the media stuff is.
- 2:16Speaker 1: They gave it.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I forget what it's called, but they had the president
- 2:19Speaker 3: of China and some of the other big Shotsaria, yeah,
- 2:23Speaker 3: and they cleaned up.
- 2:24Speaker 1: It was beautiful.
- 2:24Speaker 3: It's like what it should be like all the time
- 2:27Speaker 3: for the people to live here and pay their taxes.
- 2:29Speaker 1: And he's, oh, yeah, we cleaned up this area.
- 2:31Speaker 3: And he didn't even know where they put all the people,
- 2:34Speaker 3: but I think I found them because there are a
- 2:36Speaker 3: couple of blocks over. However, day we have another I
- 2:38Speaker 3: can add another name, and I'm very We're gonna get to.
- 2:41Speaker 4: It before you get to that. You were you were right.
- 2:43Speaker 4: You don't hear this often. What's that? Moscone was the
- 2:46Speaker 4: mayor of San Francisco seventy six to seventy eight.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Two year run.
- 2:51Speaker 4: But he's a Clippers fan because they called him the
- 2:54Speaker 4: people's mayor.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Oh there you go, see the people's or the people's team.
- 2:58Speaker 3: By the way, this week, going back to the the
- 3:00Speaker 3: way they used to be, the People's.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Team went back to they looked like the streets of
- 3:04Speaker 4: San Francis.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Oh my god, not a great week for the clips.
- 3:09Speaker 3: But all you idiots A love draft picks. They got
- 3:12Speaker 3: some draft picks, so I hope you enjoy those. Let
- 3:14Speaker 3: me know, shirt out, you know, and I'll be I'll
- 3:15Speaker 3: be eighty by the time they have a good team again.
- 3:17Speaker 3: But that's fine.
- 3:19Speaker 1: But you spotted a huge well, well, I.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Was walking around, and I was wondering around. We were
- 3:23Speaker 3: trying to get we parked on the other side, I
- 3:26Speaker 3: don't know. We didn't know where to park, so we went
- 3:27Speaker 3: to the we looked on the app and we found parking.
- 3:30Speaker 3: So we had to walk, you know, maybe four or
- 3:34Speaker 3: five blocks through beautiful downtown San Francisco, dodging needles and whatever.
- 3:38Speaker 1: So it's human. Make sure to wear my shoes today, Danny.
- 3:42Speaker 3: So we're walking and and you know, I don't really
- 3:46Speaker 3: notice beautiful looking women, but there was this woman who
- 3:50Speaker 3: was somewhat attractive apparently, and then she stopped and she
- 3:54Speaker 3: was like, oh man, you know, and then I was
- 3:55Speaker 3: like what she looking at?
- 3:57Speaker 1: And right and I was walking.
- 4:00Speaker 3: I walked ahead of her and right to my right
- 4:03Speaker 3: I crossed pass like ships passing in the night. Danny
- 4:07Speaker 3: with the most famous comedian in the world in my opinion,
- 4:13Speaker 3: and one of the great, the great, not Caratalk.
- 4:19Speaker 4: When you said that, I was like, ah Bert Kreischer, Yeah, yeah, No,
- 4:23Speaker 4: Dave Chappelle, come on, he's pretty high up on.
- 4:27Speaker 3: The if you were to do it, I don't do list.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle just casually one and only he is the
- 4:36Speaker 3: comedian of our jail, exactly right. Dave Chappelle's tremendously final.
- 4:39Speaker 3: I don't gree with everything he does, but obviously you know.
- 4:41Speaker 3: But Chappelle was there and we crossed pass and very
- 4:45Speaker 3: similar interaction.
- 4:46Speaker 5: Danny.
- 4:46Speaker 3: I would put that right next to me and the
- 4:48Speaker 3: Beebes back of the day you remember Biber. Now that
- 4:51Speaker 3: we actually touched Bieber's sounds personal, especially after what's happened
- 4:56Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But I was at a
- 5:00Speaker 3: Laker game, and back when we used to go to
- 5:01Speaker 3: those all the time. Bieber's hoodie paircings and we know
- 5:05Speaker 3: you love metal.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I don't know what you're telling you about it. I
- 5:08Speaker 1: was attracted to the giant metal cock.
- 5:12Speaker 3: His hoodie touched me. So now I can add Dave
- 5:15Speaker 3: Chappelle celebrity sidings I also had a at a was
- 5:19Speaker 3: it the Beverly Center. Yeah, the Beverly Center, me and
- 5:23Speaker 3: Jason Smith back when we were you know, this is
- 5:25Speaker 3: twenty five years ago.
- 5:26Speaker 4: We were wandering the Beverly Center. It's when Super Bowls
- 5:28Speaker 4: were in black and white?
- 5:30Speaker 1: Oh, dare you?
- 5:30Speaker 3: And in the pet shop pet shop at the Beverly
- 5:35Speaker 3: Center in La David Hasselhoffer Baywatch Night writer, Yeah, right there,
- 5:42Speaker 3: and it was that was what. No, you didn't have
- 5:46Speaker 3: a firm at that point, but he was there was
- 5:47Speaker 3: that's not the real He was there with his daughter,
- 5:49Speaker 3: though I don't I think she's probably old, might hate
- 5:52Speaker 3: him now, I don't know.
- 5:52Speaker 1: I don't really pick. Oh, she's the one that filmed
- 5:54Speaker 1: him when he was eating that cheese.
- 5:55Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, oh no, Well she was a cute
- 5:59Speaker 3: little girl at that. She didn't she didn't do that later.
- 6:03Speaker 3: So yeah, So it was just called me and Dave
- 6:05Speaker 3: Chappelle bonding right there.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Oh look at that?
- 6:08Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was showing Ben right now. My big
- 6:11Speaker 4: celebrity schmooze fest was with Fernando Mendos. Those the one
- 6:17Speaker 4: you said is going to be the next big, huge
- 6:19Speaker 4: superstar in the NFL. You had a viral moment where
- 6:22Speaker 4: you you were flobbing all over Fernando so much that
- 6:26Speaker 4: it went viral.
- 6:27Speaker 1: I got to I less it was the exact top.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Well, I'm I didn't realize there were any Indiana who's
- 6:32Speaker 3: your football fans? I know that they obviously won this
- 6:34Speaker 3: year and all that, but I was blown away, Like
- 6:36Speaker 3: I just said, the guys like a fourth round talent
- 6:39Speaker 3: and the Raiders are going to probably take him as
- 6:41Speaker 3: this That's what I said. And then of course I
- 6:45Speaker 3: got I got, Oh, you don't know you're doing you
- 6:47Speaker 3: know all the same. I always know the arguments because
- 6:50Speaker 3: I've been doing this long enough. So are you doing
- 6:51Speaker 3: the Overnight show? Who cares what you were thinking?
- 6:53Speaker 1: You know what? And it's like people get very emotional.
- 6:56Speaker 3: What I'm very we love that, though, I would say,
- 6:58Speaker 3: like if I don't, if I don't have a couple
- 6:59Speaker 3: of those things a year at least, I'm not doing
- 7:02Speaker 3: my job right.
- 7:02Speaker 1: You gotta be on the edge a little bit. But
- 7:04Speaker 1: I don't think that's an outrageous day. Listen. I hope
- 7:06Speaker 1: I'm wrong for you, Danny. You're getting older. I'm getting older.
- 7:10Speaker 3: The Raiders have sucked for the last twenty five years
- 7:12Speaker 3: or so, so you know you gotta get something.
- 7:14Speaker 4: Just seeing some positive press on the Raiders in the
- 7:17Speaker 4: past couple of weeks is very strange because obviously I'm
- 7:21Speaker 4: used to seeing everybody put in their hands like this
- 7:23Speaker 4: to gather the low hanging fruit. Yea, because the Raiders
- 7:27Speaker 4: have been a punching bag for a while now. So
- 7:29Speaker 4: with a Clint Kubiak, who's a very capable offensive mind,
- 7:34Speaker 4: with a guy like Fernando Mendoza, the Raiders could actually
- 7:37Speaker 4: move in the proper direction, which is, you know, upwards,
- 7:41Speaker 4: rather than sinking lower and lower into the toilet.
- 7:44Speaker 3: The biggest thing though, and this is I thought peekerra
- 7:46Speaker 3: would be able to turn things around. I think the
- 7:48Speaker 3: whole like attitude they yeah, loser attitude when you're fine
- 7:51Speaker 3: and then every bag team's fine for a while and
- 7:53Speaker 3: then the first time something goes wrong, you just completely
- 7:55Speaker 3: caves in.
- 7:56Speaker 4: And the Raiders have had that for twenty years. Oh yeah,
- 7:58Speaker 4: I can't. That close game to the Chicago Bears. Remember
- 8:03Speaker 4: when the last second field goal from the Raiders got blocked.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 8:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 8:06Speaker 4: The whole season unraveled at that point, and a lot
- 8:10Speaker 4: of it was because their best offensive lineman in that
- 8:13Speaker 4: game limped off right before that missed field goal. So
- 8:16Speaker 4: not only did they lose the guy that kept their
- 8:18Speaker 4: O line together, they lost all hope for the season
- 8:22Speaker 4: and everything went to complete shambles after that.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the you know you're gonna have injury. Every
- 8:28Speaker 3: time I hear someone, I lose my mind. Another one
- 8:30Speaker 3: of my pet peeves is when people say, well, you know,
- 8:31Speaker 3: if they had stayed healthy.
- 8:33Speaker 1: No one stays healthy.
- 8:34Speaker 4: No, it's just who's mentally strong enough to continue on.
- 8:38Speaker 4: And we always hear it is so cliche, the whole
- 8:42Speaker 4: next man up thing, but it's true in all of sports.
- 8:45Speaker 4: If you have a bench where those guys are really
- 8:48Speaker 4: locked in and focused and they can't wait to get
- 8:50Speaker 4: their chance, and they get in there and they show
- 8:52Speaker 4: off what they got, then your team stays on track.
- 8:55Speaker 4: But if you got dudes that probably third fourth stringers
- 8:58Speaker 4: on any other team and they kind of like gingerly
- 9:01Speaker 4: walk into the game like, oh shit, I gotta play.
- 9:04Speaker 1: I thought I was getting a free pay check.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Yeah, but it does a lot of It is that
- 9:09Speaker 3: attitude thing, and also like having talked to coaches and
- 9:12Speaker 3: some of these guys have worked here, over the years,
- 9:13Speaker 3: Jim Moore, Dennis Green, briefly, some guys like that I'm
- 9:16Speaker 3: name dropping Danny.
- 9:17Speaker 4: I just named two names there. That's the only two
- 9:19Speaker 4: I can name. You could throw Dave Chappelle in now.
- 9:21Speaker 1: But me and Dave.
- 9:22Speaker 3: You think I'm not going to tell that story of
- 9:23Speaker 3: the rest of my career. Me and Dave Chappelle had
- 9:25Speaker 3: a mollment on the streets of San Francisco. Come on,
- 9:28Speaker 3: be ready, Alfie on ferg Dog. I mean, I'm doing
- 9:30Speaker 3: full Chappelle. I'm going deep dive me and Chappelle. I'm
- 9:33Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna get VIP backstage passes.
- 9:36Speaker 4: What do you think he was here for? By the way,
- 9:37Speaker 4: you think he was here for some you must have
- 9:39Speaker 4: been partying. Was he at the NFL Honors last night?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I didn't. I didn't want it. I
- 9:44Speaker 1: didn't watch it either. I didn't watch it, so I
- 9:45Speaker 1: have no h back on. I did see.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Coach of the Year though, Mike, Mike verbal, Oh the
- 9:52Speaker 4: girl that presented is I.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Saw the moment I was was Drew ski Oh, yeah,
- 9:58Speaker 3: that's right with the saying the bad the bad word.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Well, and I was like, does he must know that
- 10:05Speaker 1: had to be a bit, right, of course it was. Yeah,
- 10:07Speaker 1: that was a bit. It was funny.
- 10:08Speaker 3: It was not bad, all right, So yeah, yeah, the
- 10:11Speaker 3: whole attitude thing. And we'll see if that changes with
- 10:14Speaker 3: the new coach, Clint Kubiak, which is great. You never
- 10:17Speaker 3: need to learn the name of the Raiders coach because
- 10:20Speaker 3: they change every year. And I have in my head
- 10:23Speaker 3: the cartoon bubble on my head. Mark Davis goes in
- 10:28Speaker 3: and he's all right, we'll fire in the coach and
- 10:29Speaker 3: he throws the paperwork at some assistant with the Raiders up.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Figure out how to pay this guy, you know, raise
- 10:34Speaker 3: the price of nachos a dollars.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Well, we'll pay this guy, and that'll be that.
- 10:39Speaker 4: I feel like this coach could actually stick. This quarterback
- 10:42Speaker 4: could actually stick. And for the first time, Ben there's
- 10:46Speaker 4: a big name player where fans will actually go to
- 10:49Speaker 4: a Legion stadium to see that one player.
- 10:52Speaker 1: As opposed to Max Crosby, who's I guess on his
- 10:54Speaker 1: way out right.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Come on, Glazier, he's reporting some bullshit. That was a
- 10:59Speaker 4: comp station during the season. They weren't Max Crosby's words.
- 11:04Speaker 4: It's what Jake Glazer took from it. Okay, that's fine,
- 11:06Speaker 4: but why now, why didn't you report that back then?
- 11:09Speaker 4: Why is he reporting that now on radio row at
- 11:11Speaker 4: the Super Bowl?
- 11:12Speaker 1: He doesn't I think, you know what, Okay, I don't
- 11:15Speaker 1: know all the personal assault. No, he wants attention. Okay,
- 11:19Speaker 1: well yeah, but look at these people. This is unbelievable
- 11:23Speaker 1: to me.
- 11:23Speaker 3: This is like I feel like I'm in remember that
- 11:25Speaker 3: show Entourage, Like every time I come to these radio
- 11:27Speaker 3: row things, It's it's surreal because you have these athletes
- 11:30Speaker 3: surrounded by handlers, like two or three pr people trying
- 11:34Speaker 3: to get attention.
- 11:35Speaker 1: It's it's a.
- 11:35Speaker 4: Little A lot happens in two months though in sports
- 11:39Speaker 4: behind the scenes.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But damn when he was Flave of
- 11:43Speaker 1: Flav right when Yo Flave no.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Wave, he's he's so programmed not to acknowledge anyone. He
- 11:50Speaker 3: just kept walking total room. He was on CNR last year,
- 11:54Speaker 3: was on the Super Bowl state. I like these walking
- 11:56Speaker 3: like we're in the kind of the side and.
- 11:59Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he had dark sunglasses on eating him and
- 12:02Speaker 4: see us.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like Stevie Wonder.
- 12:04Speaker 3: But it does appear there's a crod that's going over
- 12:06Speaker 3: there to try to get a hold of flavor flave
- 12:08Speaker 3: right there. I was going to bring him over to
- 12:10Speaker 3: the podcast, but you know he's not a big enough name.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Back to trashing Jay Glazer. Okay, so be care be
- 12:16Speaker 1: very careful, my man, third rail, ma man.
- 12:18Speaker 4: So listen, Since all that went down during the season
- 12:21Speaker 4: and they shut Crosby down for those final two games, yeah,
- 12:24Speaker 4: the Fernando path became clear and there was even quotes
- 12:28Speaker 4: from Crosby saying that kid's going to be great.
- 12:31Speaker 1: I'm a new fan of his.
- 12:33Speaker 4: Things settled down to where he got his surgery and
- 12:35Speaker 4: he was like, okay, he could kind of see the path.
- 12:38Speaker 4: But back when he was just pissed off and he
- 12:39Speaker 4: didn't want to be shut down, he was frustrated. Of
- 12:43Speaker 4: course he was. He's a warrior. He wanted to play.
- 12:45Speaker 4: But take those emotions and that feeling then and where
- 12:49Speaker 4: he's at right now, two different places.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well see, I don't know, we need content
- 12:55Speaker 3: for the offseason, Dan, I know you love the Raiders,
- 12:56Speaker 3: but we need we need good content, and that would
- 12:58Speaker 3: be a decent name. And now that's the next thing
- 13:00Speaker 3: after the super Bowl, and it just hasn't been too
- 13:02Speaker 3: much excitement.
- 13:03Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I think the NBA trade deadline was weak.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Yeah, normally people kind of live off of that, Yeah
- 13:09Speaker 4: a little bit. Yeah, and we didn't get Janis or
- 13:12Speaker 4: John Moran just got your boy Harden.
- 13:14Speaker 3: What is still wrong with the Clippers? Harden had a
- 13:18Speaker 3: meltdown and Viza Zubats No more Zubats.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Going to the end of two favorite Clippers. Well, we are.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Hanging out plausibly live on on podcast. Unless we're not
- 13:29Speaker 3: from Radio Row in San Francisco. If you need any fentanyl,
- 13:33Speaker 3: you can.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Come down here. You've had some good guests the last
- 13:37Speaker 1: couple of days. Well we've been we've been okay.
- 13:40Speaker 3: But we have today on the on the Big Baffosco
- 13:44Speaker 3: Saturday Extravaganza.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Chance to catch up with the guy that.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Called, Oh, he's on the sidelines for like every big
- 13:51Speaker 3: moment about twenty what do you think twenty years ago
- 13:56Speaker 3: or so?
- 13:56Speaker 1: About nineties?
- 13:57Speaker 4: More than that, dude, he's got a museum and I
- 14:00Speaker 4: know we're one and only Tom Brady.
- 14:02Speaker 3: That's right, buddies with Tom Brady. In fact, I will
- 14:04Speaker 3: get to the bottom. The Malor Investigated Bureau has been
- 14:08Speaker 3: activated here, Danny.
- 14:09Speaker 1: We're going to get to the bottom of.
- 14:10Speaker 3: How Jim Gray became besties with the greatest quarterback of
- 14:15Speaker 3: all time, Tom Brady, And we'll get to the bottom
- 14:17Speaker 3: of that.
- 14:18Speaker 1: And this conversation we had a few minutes ago we
- 14:21Speaker 1: walk him in.
- 14:21Speaker 3: He was on NBC sideline report booked the Michael Jordan
- 14:25Speaker 3: retirement story the first time the great Jim Gray joined us.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Now in the fifth hour, good to see it. How
- 14:31Speaker 1: you been for you? It's good to be with you, Ben.
- 14:33Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember.
- 14:34Speaker 3: I back in the day when I first got in
- 14:36Speaker 3: the media, I was at the Laker games at the Forum,
- 14:38Speaker 3: and I saw you from time to time.
- 14:39Speaker 1: You were hanging out back in those days, and yeah, yeah,
- 14:42Speaker 1: great times.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well awesome in the eighty seven, much different
- 14:45Speaker 3: vibe though, right the whole what's it been like for
- 14:47Speaker 3: you being in the media business all these years?
- 14:50Speaker 1: The difference.
- 14:51Speaker 3: I know, you're doing a podcast and you've been a
- 14:52Speaker 3: bunch of the media stuff, But back then it was
- 14:55Speaker 3: a totally different animal.
- 14:56Speaker 6: And then now, oh my god, well there was only
- 14:58Speaker 6: three networks. The advent of cable television and then cable
- 15:02Speaker 6: cable long and so that changed everything. And then the
- 15:05Speaker 6: proliferation of talk radio and then the Internet finally arrived
- 15:11Speaker 6: and now we have streaming, so you know, it's just
- 15:13Speaker 6: all you know, it's just all come together in a hurry.
- 15:16Speaker 6: But you know, you could kind of see it, but
- 15:19Speaker 6: you didn't expect it because when I was a kid,
- 15:22Speaker 6: we were listening to you know, the radio, and then
- 15:24Speaker 6: you had the vinyl records, and then you had the cassette,
- 15:27Speaker 6: then you had the eight track, and then that went away,
- 15:30Speaker 6: and then you finally you know, worked its way all
- 15:32Speaker 6: the way up to you know the ie not the iPod, yeah, yeah,
- 15:40Speaker 6: iPhone and the digits, the streaming services. So you could
- 15:44Speaker 6: kind of see the evolution coming, but I don't think
- 15:47Speaker 6: any of us expected UH to grow in the fashion
- 15:51Speaker 6: that it has and the explosion that it's become.
- 15:54Speaker 3: And you've kept up with it, right, you get the
- 15:56Speaker 3: podcast stuff going on your whatever the platform is, Jim
- 15:59Speaker 3: Gray is going.
- 15:59Speaker 5: To be there.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Well you have to.
- 16:00Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if if if you don't move,
- 16:04Speaker 6: I mean, it's not we're still not riding in horses
- 16:06Speaker 6: and buggies. And then the model t if you don't
- 16:08Speaker 6: move with it, it just leaves you behind. So you
- 16:10Speaker 6: don't want to be standing out in the middle.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Of the road.
- 16:12Speaker 6: You know, you want to you just move with the times,
- 16:15Speaker 6: and time passes and and you've got you've got to
- 16:18Speaker 6: change with it.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:19Speaker 3: What about the from the TV perspective with all the
- 16:22Speaker 3: streaming and all that. I mean, you were on network
- 16:24Speaker 3: television back when, as you said, there was only a
- 16:26Speaker 3: few channels.
- 16:27Speaker 6: Now, before the advent of Fox. We're now on Fox
- 16:29Speaker 6: Sports Radio. There wasn't even a Fox. Yeah, you know,
- 16:32Speaker 6: there wasn't you know. I was at CBS when we
- 16:36Speaker 6: lost the rights. I was doing the games with Madden
- 16:39Speaker 6: and Summer all in the NFL today, Yeah, it's great
- 16:42Speaker 6: Gumble and Terry Bradshaw and legends, let's Leavesser and Pat
- 16:45Speaker 6: O'Brian and I Yeah, so we uh we saw Fox
- 16:49Speaker 6: take that and Rupert was always been way ahead of
- 16:53Speaker 6: his time, and boy did he jump out there and
- 16:56Speaker 6: made a huge gamble on the NFL and the building
- 17:00Speaker 6: the network and no one believed in it.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And now look what it is today. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
- 17:06Speaker 1: It's all over the place.
- 17:07Speaker 3: And in your run in TV and all that.
- 17:10Speaker 1: So I did the one.
- 17:12Speaker 3: There's a couple of things that you did that like
- 17:14Speaker 3: were I mean, you've did done everything. But the I
- 17:17Speaker 3: remember when you broke You broke the Jordan story right
- 17:19Speaker 3: when he was retiring. That was like, I don't think
- 17:22Speaker 3: people can grasp now who are younger, like Jordan was
- 17:26Speaker 3: the king, and like, what do you You can't retire
- 17:30Speaker 3: even in the prime of his career, and you had
- 17:32Speaker 3: that before everyone else.
- 17:34Speaker 1: It was a big surprise. It was a big surprise.
- 17:36Speaker 6: We were at the baseball game for the White Sox
- 17:38Speaker 6: playoff game and Michael had thrown out.
- 17:40Speaker 1: The first pitch.
- 17:41Speaker 6: Yeah, And so it's a funny story because it relates
- 17:44Speaker 6: to somebody who now works at Fox. And we had
- 17:48Speaker 6: gotten word that Michael was going to retire, and he
- 17:51Speaker 6: was sitting up in Jerry Reinsdorf's box and Datelines NBC
- 17:56Speaker 6: or one of the NBC new shows, okay that had
- 18:01Speaker 6: mentioned something, but they hadn't had whatever it was the
- 18:04Speaker 6: confirmation from Michael. So I went up to the box
- 18:08Speaker 6: where Michael was sitting with Jerry Reinsdorf and there was
- 18:11Speaker 6: another man by the name of Eddie Einhorn who was
- 18:13Speaker 6: a minority partner and he was a great legendary television
- 18:17Speaker 6: man himself, Eddie Einhorn, and he was Reinstorf's partner, and
- 18:20Speaker 6: we couldn't get in because the door was locked. So
- 18:22Speaker 6: I went to the booth next door and stuck my
- 18:24Speaker 6: head out in a hurry box window at the new
- 18:27Speaker 6: Kaminski Stadium, it was the new stadium, and I stuck
- 18:30Speaker 6: my head around and I said, Eddie, come over. Here
- 18:34Speaker 6: is Michael Jordan retiring. And he was sitting next to
- 18:37Speaker 6: Hinsdorf and he went, I said, can you confirm that?
- 18:41Speaker 6: And Jerry went shook his head. Einhord shook his head.
- 18:46Speaker 6: Michael was in the back. I said, can I talk
- 18:48Speaker 6: to him? He said, well, no, he's in the back.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Of the booth. He's not doing interviews. I said, what
- 18:54Speaker 1: can I say?
- 18:55Speaker 6: He says, there'll be a press conference tomorrow out at
- 18:58Speaker 6: the Bulls Facility in Dearborn.
- 19:02Speaker 1: And I so I was with another guy by the
- 19:05Speaker 1: name of Eric Shanks. You know who he was.
- 19:07Speaker 6: Yeah, he was our broadcast associate, our beat He became
- 19:11Speaker 6: a big mobile, a president of sport.
- 19:14Speaker 1: I would I would say yes.
- 19:15Speaker 6: So he was with me, okay, and we ran down
- 19:17Speaker 6: the hallway when Michael came out and we jumped in
- 19:19Speaker 6: the elevator with him as he was getting into his
- 19:21Speaker 6: car and Michael didn't want to answer any questions. Yeah, camera,
- 19:25Speaker 6: but he nodded in an affirmation that we had the
- 19:27Speaker 6: story right. So I ran out there and put it
- 19:29Speaker 6: on the air. Greg Gumbel and Jim Cott were doing
- 19:32Speaker 6: the game. Did they know in advance or did you
- 19:34Speaker 6: broke the story? You broke whatever? Ending it was.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy, how big that was.
- 19:39Speaker 6: And then the next day, obviously at the Dearborn, he
- 19:43Speaker 6: retired for the first time.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Yeah, that was insane at the time. I remember, reaction
- 19:49Speaker 3: was like and this was before social media, so you
- 19:51Speaker 3: know that was before the internet. Yeah, before the exactly
- 19:54Speaker 3: before the Internet and all that stuff. What about it now?
- 19:56Speaker 3: I assume I'm gonna ask you but the debate the
- 19:59Speaker 3: Lebron Jordan, I'm team Jordan. Lebron's obviously been great and wonderful,
- 20:04Speaker 3: and all I said, where do you fall on that?
- 20:06Speaker 6: Like you diminish Lebron when you say Jordan, I say, Michael,
- 20:10Speaker 6: all right, it sounds like you diminish Lebron. Yeah, and
- 20:15Speaker 6: I don't. He's great, He's fabulous. I mean, look at
- 20:18Speaker 6: the records that he said. But to me, it's Jordan. Yeah,
- 20:22Speaker 6: And you know, I don't. I don't find it to
- 20:26Speaker 6: be close. But I think Lebron's sensational. I think Lebron,
- 20:32Speaker 6: you know, he broke all the records. He broke Kareem's record.
- 20:36Speaker 6: Look at the longevity that he's had, look at how
- 20:38Speaker 6: great he's been, the number of championships that he's had,
- 20:40Speaker 6: the places where he's won championships in three cities, Miami, Cleveland,
- 20:44Speaker 6: Los Angeles. So you know, it's hard to compare eras,
- 20:50Speaker 6: and it's hard to compare people. I just think that Jordan,
- 20:54Speaker 6: for what he was, for that moment, had separated himself.
- 20:58Speaker 6: Now you get a lot of folks today who will
- 21:01Speaker 6: think just the opposite, and they're entitled to their opinion,
- 21:03Speaker 6: and I don't diminish it.
- 21:04Speaker 1: But I'm a Jordan. I would say Jordan.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on team Jordan too, And that's like the
- 21:10Speaker 3: last I would say Jordan, maybe Kobe.
- 21:13Speaker 1: A little bit.
- 21:13Speaker 3: Because of the social media war that we're in now, right,
- 21:15Speaker 3: the impact that Jordan became as big as he became
- 21:19Speaker 3: without social media, anybody after this, and who knows what's
- 21:22Speaker 3: next after social media.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I can only imagine thirty years from now what the
- 21:26Speaker 1: world's going to be like, but.
- 21:28Speaker 6: Well, Ali was bigger than all of them, and that
- 21:29Speaker 6: was all the word of mouth. Yeah, okay, only was
- 21:32Speaker 6: bigger than Jordan. Yeah, the legend more well known around
- 21:35Speaker 6: the world, probably than anybody on the planet, including the Pope.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Who've had, you know, billions of followers. Yeah, for sure.
- 21:42Speaker 1: And I got to ask you do a podcast.
- 21:44Speaker 3: You've done work with Tom Brady your friends obviously the time.
- 21:47Speaker 1: How did that begin?
- 21:48Speaker 3: How did you I mean did you was it through
- 21:50Speaker 3: the media or like, how did you and Tom create
- 21:52Speaker 3: this bond?
- 21:54Speaker 1: You know?
- 21:54Speaker 6: I interviewed him for his first Super Bowl in a
- 21:58Speaker 6: pre game. I was on Westwood One. I interviewed him
- 22:01Speaker 6: for the pregame. Then he won the game, so I
- 22:03Speaker 6: interviewed him after the game on Westwood one in the
- 22:05Speaker 6: field and I was with NBC at the time, So
- 22:07Speaker 6: I said, Tom, will you come back out after you
- 22:09Speaker 6: shower and do your obligations for the Today Show? So
- 22:11Speaker 6: we did an interview on the Today Show. So he
- 22:14Speaker 6: did three interviews in the course of whatever those three
- 22:16Speaker 6: days were, two days whatever. Yeah, and then he comes
- 22:20Speaker 6: back the following year. Then he's in three out of four,
- 22:24Speaker 6: you know, and he's doing and so we just had
- 22:27Speaker 6: a professional relationship and he would see me at his
- 22:31Speaker 6: best times winning Super Bowls. Yeah, okay, so we just
- 22:35Speaker 6: became friendly professionally personally. So at that time I was
- 22:41Speaker 6: on Westwood One and Tom had won those three Super
- 22:44Speaker 6: Bowls and he would spend some time in southern California.
- 22:48Speaker 6: And I was doing the radio show on Westwood One
- 22:53Speaker 6: with Don Shula, Mike Dick and Don Shula doing the
- 22:56Speaker 6: pregame and I saw Tom out with his watching his
- 23:00Speaker 6: I think it was two or three year old son, Jack,
- 23:04Speaker 6: two year old son hitting tennis balls, and I said, hey, Tom,
- 23:11Speaker 6: good to see and we just talked on the side
- 23:12Speaker 6: of the tennis court. I said, hey, coach Shula is
- 23:15Speaker 6: going to retire. And I believe this was two thousand
- 23:18Speaker 6: and eight. Okay, remember the year. Would you like to
- 23:21Speaker 6: do the pregame in the halftime on Monday Night Football
- 23:24Speaker 6: with me? Like coach Shula does take over? He says, well,
- 23:27Speaker 6: what does that entail? I said, well, we'll tape the
- 23:29Speaker 6: pregame and then you have to be live at halftime.
- 23:32Speaker 6: And our museum director Howard Denaroff, who runs the Hall
- 23:35Speaker 6: of Excellence for US, was the executive producer at Westwood One.
- 23:39Speaker 6: I called Howard, I said, you know, I talked to Tom.
- 23:40Speaker 6: He's going to think about it. Tom called back a
- 23:43Speaker 6: week or two later and he said, talk to my agent,
- 23:45Speaker 6: Steve Duban dubin Andy, I'd like to do this.
- 23:50Speaker 1: And I was astonished. And guess what we've done it
- 23:53Speaker 1: ever since. That's great, No, I know, you guys have
- 23:55Speaker 1: been synonymous.
- 23:55Speaker 6: And halftime, he would call in at halftime, do it live.
- 23:58Speaker 6: And then we left Westwood one in two thousand and
- 24:01Speaker 6: one and we created the podcast and went over to
- 24:03Speaker 6: Sirius XM to do an hour and we had Larry
- 24:06Speaker 6: Fitzgerald with us, and so we've done the podcast ever since.
- 24:09Speaker 6: And now the podcast is more because Tom, you know,
- 24:13Speaker 6: has a lot of Fox responsibility, so he's a regular
- 24:15Speaker 6: guest now and yeah, here's all the time. And Belichick
- 24:19Speaker 6: took his place full time, and then Bill went back
- 24:21Speaker 6: to work at You and You and c. Yeah, and
- 24:24Speaker 6: so we got Matthew Stafford this year. So we're hoping
- 24:27Speaker 6: Matthew wins this MVP. That's right, this is it, I know,
- 24:30Speaker 6: and it is even Bill continue to MaTx Crosby and
- 24:33Speaker 6: Peter Kane.
- 24:34Speaker 1: That's great.
- 24:34Speaker 3: And you mentioned Oh, you mentioned the Hall of Fame
- 24:37Speaker 3: or the museum in Vegas. Right, tell me about that.
- 24:41Speaker 3: I go to Vegas all the time. All of excellence,
- 24:43Speaker 3: all of excellence.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Right.
- 24:43Speaker 3: So in at the Fountain Blue Loss, what can we
- 24:46Speaker 3: you know the listener, what can they expect?
- 24:47Speaker 1: They're in Vegas, they were looking for something to do
- 24:49Speaker 1: during the day. What can they expect when.
- 24:51Speaker 6: They're going to the greatest sports artifacts in the history
- 24:53Speaker 6: of sports. We have three hundred and twenty five of them,
- 24:57Speaker 6: all of excellence on the second floor the Fountain Blue,
- 24:59Speaker 6: Las Vegas.
- 24:59Speaker 1: We great partner.
- 25:00Speaker 6: They built as a great museum, and Jeffrey Sofer owns
- 25:03Speaker 6: the hotel. Maurice Wooden runs it. He's the president. It's
- 25:08Speaker 6: been terrific for us to be able to open in July.
- 25:13Speaker 1: We have everything.
- 25:13Speaker 6: From Jackie Robinson's bat to break the Color Barrier to
- 25:17Speaker 6: Babe Ruth called shot bat, to Tom Brady's seven Super
- 25:20Speaker 6: Bowl rings, to Tom Coff's Clara jug to Oprah Winfrey's
- 25:23Speaker 6: Medal of Freedom, to Simone Biles Leotard from her.
- 25:27Speaker 1: First It's great.
- 25:28Speaker 6: How do you bring her first gold medal in Rio
- 25:31Speaker 6: Katie Ledecki when she won in Paris. We've got her
- 25:34Speaker 6: swimsuit with Michael Phelps jacket that he wore on the
- 25:37Speaker 6: victory platform when the only guy to win eight gold
- 25:40Speaker 6: medals in any Olympics in Beijing, so it's in there.
- 25:43Speaker 6: We've got Lebron james first jersey the night he played
- 25:45Speaker 6: in Sacramento for the for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
- 25:48Speaker 1: We got the basket that he broke.
- 25:49Speaker 6: Kareem Abdul Jabbar's record with Kobe Bryant's net when he
- 25:53Speaker 6: scored eighty one points.
- 25:54Speaker 1: How'd you get all? How are you going to it?
- 25:56Speaker 1: I owned?
- 25:57Speaker 6: Other people have contributed to lou for display. We have
- 26:01Speaker 6: private collectors like David Kohler from the Lakers Shrine has
- 26:06Speaker 6: given us some great Lakers items, Magic Johnson's shoes he
- 26:09Speaker 6: gave us and from their repeat, and he's given us
- 26:12Speaker 6: something from Will Chamber.
- 26:14Speaker 1: The only known artifact from the one hundred point game.
- 26:18Speaker 6: When Will broke that record is the score book, the
- 26:21Speaker 6: original scorebook signed by Will. So there's something for everybody.
- 26:25Speaker 6: And we also have a lot of entertainment. It's the
- 26:28Speaker 6: only place in the country where the egot is on display.
- 26:31Speaker 6: Emmy Oscar, Grammy and Tony the Egot Award. We have
- 26:37Speaker 6: the Oscar for Unforgiven from Clint Eastwood, his first Oprah
- 26:42Speaker 6: Winfrey's Tony from The Color Purple and her Emmy from
- 26:46Speaker 6: Her Great Show and justin Timberlake's Grammy. And we also
- 26:50Speaker 6: have if you walk down, if you walk down the
- 26:53Speaker 6: strip right now in Las Vegas, now you're walking down,
- 26:55Speaker 6: you're walking down, Well, what would you see? Thirty five
- 26:58Speaker 6: to forty times were just walking there's one thing you
- 27:01Speaker 6: would see.
- 27:01Speaker 1: What would you think be part of the strip. We
- 27:05Speaker 1: look like any part of the strip if you just
- 27:07Speaker 1: want a part of the string over the place.
- 27:11Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd also probably see thirty five to forty Elvis
- 27:14Speaker 6: Presley in person. Oh yeah, of course, yes, the Kings,
- 27:19Speaker 6: Long Live the King. We have his first suit that
- 27:22Speaker 6: he ever wore for the first concert that he gave
- 27:24Speaker 6: in Las Vegas.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Hanging is that right night that.
- 27:28Speaker 6: He appeared at the International Hotel that's loaned to us
- 27:32Speaker 6: from Graceland.
- 27:32Speaker 1: That's awesome, Yeah, that's right. So and it's at the
- 27:35Speaker 1: Fountain Fountain Blue right.
- 27:37Speaker 6: There, and you come in, we give you an iPhone. Okay,
- 27:40Speaker 6: we get a thirty two minute guided tour by Morgan Freeman.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Oh, the grace of God, that's right.
- 27:46Speaker 6: So you get to hear Morgan Freeman walk you through
- 27:50Speaker 6: and uh, what he does, he does just a great job.
- 27:53Speaker 6: And yeah, and we're so thrilled that's done that. And
- 27:58Speaker 6: then on each art fact, each artifact that you go through, uh,
- 28:03Speaker 6: when you hit the button on your iPhone, it pulls
- 28:07Speaker 6: up the highlight from when it was used.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Oh, so you can see that. That's great.
- 28:12Speaker 6: And we have great we have the great voices, all
- 28:15Speaker 6: of the great voices who have brings the stories alive.
- 28:19Speaker 6: Bob Costas for baseball, Jim nance Sure for uh for golf,
- 28:24Speaker 6: Oprah Winfrey for entertainment, Andre's Canter for soccer, Doc Emeric,
- 28:29Speaker 6: the great Doc Emrick he does all of the hockey.
- 28:32Speaker 6: Tom Brady does all of the football. I do the
- 28:36Speaker 6: boxing great, And so you get all those voices.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Marv Albert for basketball. Can I play something for twenty Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
- 28:42Speaker 1: let's say.
- 28:43Speaker 3: Let's put it right up in the mice here there were.
- 28:50Speaker 1: I heard the voice there. Let's do that again. That's live.
- 28:53Speaker 1: So here we go before you so.
- 28:56Speaker 5: Rare that a real legitimate comparison does not exist. I'm movin.
- 29:02Speaker 5: Freeman and together. We'll explore or space without president, hundreds
- 29:09Speaker 5: of items that cannot be found anywhere.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Else on this planet.
- 29:14Speaker 5: Welcome to the Hall of Excellence inside Defonte and Blue,
- 29:19Speaker 5: Las Vegas.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's awesome. I'm going to have to
- 29:23Speaker 1: go in there and some of him in town. Money
- 29:24Speaker 1: come by, Come on checkers, get a discount? Am I
- 29:27Speaker 1: a senior? Wait all youth? You know we let in
- 29:31Speaker 1: for free? Oh good? Do the kids everry discount that?
- 29:33Speaker 6: Residents discount free parking at the Fountain lou Come on in,
- 29:36Speaker 6: all right, we'll get.
- 29:38Speaker 1: You out on this little Jim. The super Bowl is
- 29:39Speaker 1: on Sunday.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Any prediction, what do you think is going to happen
- 29:43Speaker 3: on Super Bowl Sunday.
- 29:46Speaker 1: I'm going to say what Tom Brady said.
- 29:47Speaker 6: Okay, okay, he said if they played ten times, Seattle
- 29:51Speaker 6: would win six.
- 29:52Speaker 1: So Seattle I think.
- 29:54Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna go with him. He seems to know
- 29:56Speaker 6: pretty well. Thanks for doing this, Gym.
- 29:57Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You had a great career.
- 29:58Speaker 6: I appreciate you letting us talk about all of excellent,
- 30:01Speaker 6: awesome sharing stories.
- 30:02Speaker 1: They're great.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Jim Gray, Hell yeah, all right, great to have the man.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Jim Gray. You know we've we've had Jim. Actually, I
- 30:12Speaker 3: think it's a listener. I was he was seemed excited.
- 30:15Speaker 3: I don't know, Danny. I'm always skeptical when people say
- 30:19Speaker 3: they listen and they enjoy the show and they want
- 30:21Speaker 3: to talk to me, because I always think everyone's full
- 30:23Speaker 3: of crap.
- 30:23Speaker 4: Wait, but some of the NFL media, like Kevin Well,
- 30:27Speaker 4: he does NBA as well, Harlan Yeah, yeah, there are Yeah,
- 30:30Speaker 4: there are guys like that that actually do.
- 30:32Speaker 3: No I know, but I'm always like, I'm like, is
- 30:34Speaker 3: this guy you don't believe it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: I'm always skeptical. But he seemed like Jim.
- 30:38Speaker 3: I think Jim does occasionally listen to the Overnight Show.
- 30:41Speaker 1: I know he loves radio. I know he talked about
- 30:43Speaker 1: that and he's a big radio He.
- 30:44Speaker 4: Said something about blind Scott when he was leaving that
- 30:47Speaker 4: he wanted an autograund.
- 30:48Speaker 3: You wanted to hear hollering James snore and I said,
- 30:50Speaker 3: I can't do that.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I was like, damn, well, he really
- 30:54Speaker 1: is a listener.
- 30:55Speaker 3: There's a Barry Sanders randomly walking by trying to avoid people.
- 30:58Speaker 1: He's going He's going to go through the app back
- 31:00Speaker 1: side here.
- 31:00Speaker 3: See this is good because where we're at, all these
- 31:02Speaker 3: people they come wandering by here to get out there
- 31:06Speaker 3: you go a see no wave. I didn't get awave.
- 31:08Speaker 3: I got a head nod. Yeah, I get ahead nod.
- 31:11Speaker 3: So I just got in the in. During this fifth
- 31:14Speaker 3: hour podcast, Danny flavor Flame did not acknowledge me, and
- 31:16Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, the Great Lion Player did not as they
- 31:20Speaker 3: walked by.
- 31:20Speaker 1: So I'm older and gave Ben Maller a stiff arm.
- 31:23Speaker 3: He looked the other way, and I would too if
- 31:25Speaker 3: I looked at myself, I would look the other way.
- 31:27Speaker 3: All right, we'll get out of here. We get the
- 31:28Speaker 3: mail bag. On Sunday, we are at Radio Row. Was
- 31:31Speaker 3: excited to be in San Francisco inside the secured facility.
- 31:35Speaker 4: Yeah, Ben get with twenty twenty six. This is called
- 31:37Speaker 4: media road. No, no screw that. I'm a radio Okay.
- 31:40Speaker 4: I got in a radio till I died. It is
- 31:43Speaker 4: the classic term that has been grand fought. Like I
- 31:46Speaker 4: still call the Washington commanders of the Redskins racist. Anyway,
- 31:52Speaker 4: we'll catch you on the mail bag on Sunday.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Asta pasta flation