Latest / Large Nerdron Collider / The Physical Challenges of DevilDare
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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Charge on Collider podcast,
- 0:13Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
- 0:15Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
- 0:18Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me, as always,
- 0:21Speaker 1: is the Fantastical Friday. Jonathan Strickland.
- 0:26Speaker 2: I hate people.
- 0:29Speaker 1: You said you weren't going to include that in the podcast.
- 0:32Speaker 2: I lie, yeah, Before we started recording, I was being
- 0:36Speaker 2: a right old curmudgeon, and then I said, you know what,
- 0:39Speaker 2: we probably shouldn't record this part. We hadn't started recording yet.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I was like, we probably should be glad we don't
- 0:45Speaker 2: have this in here. And then I was like, you
- 0:46Speaker 2: know what, whatever, I'm going to include it. This is
- 0:50Speaker 2: not This is not people in particular. Honestly, It's just
- 0:54Speaker 2: that my capacity to handle interactions online is an all
- 1:00Speaker 2: time low. It's just that's how it is. It has
- 1:02Speaker 2: nothing to do with the people out there who are awesome.
- 1:05Speaker 2: They're fantastic. I appreciate all of you, Yeah, all of
- 1:08Speaker 2: you out there, I really appreciate you. My mental health
- 1:13Speaker 2: has just reached a point where, like online interactions, I
- 1:16Speaker 2: just find them like uniformly toxic. It doesn't matter how
- 1:21Speaker 2: positive they are. It just I don't know. It doesn't
- 1:25Speaker 2: work for me anymore. And Ariel can tell you, like,
- 1:29Speaker 2: I don't have a Facebook account anymore, I don't have
- 1:31Speaker 2: Instagram anymore. I'm not on TikTok, I'm not on Twitter.
- 1:36Speaker 2: The only thing I'm on this blue sky, and I'm
- 1:38Speaker 2: almost never there.
- 1:40Speaker 1: I'll say, I've got to slide legit into your DMS
- 1:42Speaker 1: if I want to contact you.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't make it easy. It is not
- 1:47Speaker 2: easy to get in touch with me. And I try
- 1:49Speaker 2: to limit it just to the people that I'm really
- 1:52Speaker 2: you know, close with, like friends and family and such.
- 1:56Speaker 1: But I do share the fun stuff that you guys share.
- 1:59Speaker 2: With us, which yes, and then and then I say,
- 2:02Speaker 2: that's very nice. I still hate people, but not you,
- 2:06Speaker 2: not you, not you up there. I don't hate you.
- 2:10Speaker 2: You just I just can't take it.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Social media is hard right now, and COVID made it harder.
- 2:17Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, no, I think. I think when
- 2:21Speaker 2: we were all forced to rely almost solely on social
- 2:26Speaker 2: networks in order to stay in touch with each other,
- 2:30Speaker 2: that kind of cemented things. And also you got to
- 2:33Speaker 2: keep in mind, you know, this should be my therapy
- 2:35Speaker 2: session but that that before COVID, I considered myself an extrovert, right, Like,
- 2:44Speaker 2: I am an outgoing person. You all know, I'm a
- 2:48Speaker 2: chatty kathy, Like you just have to listen to one
- 2:51Speaker 2: episode to find that out. But you know now I
- 2:56Speaker 2: find it a struggle too urge from my hut in
- 3:02Speaker 2: the woods and talk to people. But at the same time,
- 3:07Speaker 2: I'm not online anymore, so I'm becoming increasingly isolated. So
- 3:11Speaker 2: I'm just letting y'all know that, so that as you listen,
- 3:13Speaker 2: you can track my decline.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Some of us are some of us work on that
- 3:19Speaker 1: occasionally here and there, like it is a muscle I eat.
- 3:23Speaker 1: So I'm an extroverted introvert. I'm uncomfortable in social situations,
- 3:30Speaker 1: but I do a lot of them. And things have
- 3:37Speaker 1: been picking up, like in regular life in the acting world,
- 3:41Speaker 1: and you know, all the stories that you hear and
- 3:44Speaker 1: everything else. And like I used to be able to
- 3:46Speaker 1: burn the candle at both ends in five places in
- 3:48Speaker 1: the middle and to dip into my therapy session. I
- 3:53Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. My therapist is like, is it
- 3:55Speaker 1: Just like my therapist said that she realized she couldn't
- 3:57Speaker 1: do that because she's getting older, and I said, I
- 3:59Speaker 1: refuse to act that as an excuse, but because I'm
- 4:03Speaker 1: not old yet, not dead yet, but I'm even like
- 4:10Speaker 1: it's struggling. It's a muscle, and my muscles, my social
- 4:14Speaker 1: and commitment muscles, have atrophied, and so I'm trying to
- 4:18Speaker 1: build them back up. But it's exhausting in the meantime.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking with a friend of the show,
- 4:25Speaker 2: shay Lee, who is in an upcoming production of Harvey,
- 4:31Speaker 2: which you know, if you are a fan of Jimmy
- 4:35Speaker 2: Stewart then you might be familiar with the film version
- 4:38Speaker 2: of Harvey. She's doing, obviously the original staged version. And
- 4:44Speaker 2: I was talking to her about how I very much misperforming,
- 4:48Speaker 2: like I love performing, and it's been years since I've honestly,
- 4:54Speaker 2: it's been six years since I've done any like stage
- 4:58Speaker 2: performing type stuff, and part of me thinks that I'm
- 5:02Speaker 2: that part of my life might be done, and that's
- 5:06Speaker 2: really sad for me. It's not necessarily true. It's just
- 5:10Speaker 2: hard for me to imagine taking on the task of
- 5:16Speaker 2: auditioning and then if I land apart learning all the lines,
- 5:19Speaker 2: going to all the rehearsals, like it's a huge commitment
- 5:23Speaker 2: in a life where increasingly I have less and less
- 5:28Speaker 2: spare time, and it's just hard for me to imagine
- 5:31Speaker 2: doing it. And that's that's what I'm currently struggling with.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I feel like everybody struggles
- 5:38Speaker 1: with that to some degree. I always found that when
- 5:42Speaker 1: I was doing theater, because now I focus primarily on film,
- 5:45Speaker 1: but when I was doing theater in a couple of times,
- 5:47Speaker 1: I've jumped into it since then, like you might be like,
- 5:52Speaker 1: i gotta go to rehearsal and I'm going to miss
- 5:53Speaker 1: hanging out with this person or this TV show or whatever,
- 5:56Speaker 1: although missing a TV show is a lot less of
- 5:59Speaker 1: a thing more, but I always found the experience of
- 6:03Speaker 1: being there and being a part of that telling that
- 6:07Speaker 1: story rewarding enough by the end of the day.
- 6:12Speaker 2: So it also like depending on the people you work with,
- 6:18Speaker 2: you know, you develop those incredibly close bonds like you
- 6:22Speaker 2: have show family, and that show family can be a
- 6:26Speaker 2: really powerful thing. And I think for a lot of
- 6:29Speaker 2: us there are certain years at the Georgia Renaissance Festival
- 6:33Speaker 2: where that show family that became like our core group
- 6:36Speaker 2: of friends who some of whom are still to this
- 6:40Speaker 2: day like close friends. That experience is one that can
- 6:46Speaker 2: really fuel you. Even if you're in a show that
- 6:49Speaker 2: maybe you personally feel wasn't that good. Sometimes the relationships
- 6:53Speaker 2: you have with your show family end up being more
- 6:56Speaker 2: important than that.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, speaking of this past weekend, I went out
- 7:01Speaker 1: to Marietta the gathering, which is a little outdoor like
- 7:04Speaker 1: Craft Fair, tiny dragon Con. They have cosplay contests. They
- 7:08Speaker 1: had some random people standing on stage playing D and
- 7:11Speaker 1: D with like a kid rolling the giant D twenty
- 7:13Speaker 1: on the ground for them. They had like giant TV
- 7:16Speaker 1: screens with Mario Kart that you could sit outside and play,
- 7:19Speaker 1: and contests of like creator stuff, and then a whole
- 7:22Speaker 1: bunch of boots and cosplay and stuff like that. It
- 7:24Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I saw several people I
- 7:28Speaker 1: know from Garf and Slash Dragon Con vending there, so
- 7:34Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun.
- 7:35Speaker 2: That's cool. I didn't even know that was a thing.
- 7:38Speaker 2: But then also like, it's pretty far away for you.
- 7:42Speaker 2: We haven't We didn't record an episode when I got back,
- 7:45Speaker 2: did we.
- 7:46Speaker 1: No, we took the week off.
- 7:48Speaker 2: So yeah, the last time I was between the last
- 7:51Speaker 2: time we recorded and this time, I flew to Doha, Qatar,
- 7:57Speaker 2: to attend the Web Summit and and so like, I
- 8:02Speaker 2: feel like I'm missed out on some stuff because I
- 8:04Speaker 2: was out of the country for several days. Had I
- 8:09Speaker 2: known about the Marietta thing, I probably would have loved
- 8:11Speaker 2: to have checked that out.
- 8:13Speaker 1: I honestly it was. It was last Saturday, and I
- 8:17Speaker 1: was like, what do I want to do for lunch?
- 8:19Speaker 1: Is there anything I want to do today? And it
- 8:21Speaker 1: just popped into my head. I'm like, oh, is this
- 8:23Speaker 1: this weekend? And I checked. So I will try to
- 8:25Speaker 1: be more on top of it next year for you,
- 8:27Speaker 1: so I can give you a heads up if it's happening.
- 8:29Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, Like this year probably wouldn't have
- 8:32Speaker 2: worked out because I was back in town Saturday, but
- 8:35Speaker 2: I my body was back in town. I don't think
- 8:38Speaker 2: my internal clock got back in town until like yesterday.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, oh Christmas geek, Molly's Oh Christmas geek.
- 8:46Speaker 1: She was there, Cap was there, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 8:52Speaker 1: so and a couple other people.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Yeah folks, y'all don't know. But I love that we're
- 8:57Speaker 2: just using this to catch up with each other. It's
- 8:59Speaker 2: our now.
- 9:00Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I if you are local or
- 9:05Speaker 1: if you're not and you have something like this in
- 9:07Speaker 1: your area, I highly recommend it because it's it's kind
- 9:10Speaker 1: of fun like dragon Con, but it's a lot more chill.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Yeah. It actually reminds me of the convention circuit the
- 9:16Speaker 2: days before things like dragon Con, and there used to
- 9:20Speaker 2: be a convention called magnum Opus Con before those conventions
- 9:24Speaker 2: got really huge and rowdy. Magnam Opis Cohn was more
- 9:27Speaker 2: of a party con. Dragon Con is kind of a
- 9:30Speaker 2: party con. Magnum Opis Con was like, hold my beer
- 9:33Speaker 2: kind of party con. But it makes me think of
- 9:36Speaker 2: those days before when the conventions were a bit smaller.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Often they were more focused, like they'd be focused on
- 9:43Speaker 2: a specific property, maybe it's a bit Doctor Who or
- 9:45Speaker 2: Star Trek, something like that. And part of me misses
- 9:50Speaker 2: those days because the community was smaller and more tightly knit,
- 9:57Speaker 2: and largely that was because science fiction, fantasy, horror, these
- 10:01Speaker 2: genres were not really mainstream the way they are today.
- 10:05Speaker 2: And that's not an old man saying things used to
- 10:08Speaker 2: be better. They were just different, and some of those
- 10:12Speaker 2: differences were cool because you could have these more meaningful,
- 10:15Speaker 2: I feel connections with people. But it's also cool to
- 10:20Speaker 2: go to something like a Dragon Con or a San
- 10:24Speaker 2: Diego Comic Con, where you are in a sea of
- 10:27Speaker 2: humanity of people who absolutely love the heck out of something.
- 10:32Speaker 2: There's something really special about that too. So I don't
- 10:34Speaker 2: want to say that one is superior to the other.
- 10:38Speaker 2: They're different. You'll get different things out of them. But
- 10:40Speaker 2: it is definitely worth exploring.
- 10:43Speaker 1: One of the most popular activities there because there were
- 10:46Speaker 1: a few, like there was a giant, life sized hartest
- 10:48Speaker 1: that made noises that you could take a picture with,
- 10:51Speaker 1: you know, like I said, the games and the contests
- 10:52Speaker 1: and things like that. Gaming area there was a whole
- 10:55Speaker 1: bunch of gaming area too. Was there was a larp
- 10:58Speaker 1: group and I don't remember which one because it's not
- 10:59Speaker 1: when I'm familiar with who set up like a little
- 11:02Speaker 1: sparring ring and was like fight our night, and so
- 11:06Speaker 1: they'd give the kids Boffer weapons and the kids would
- 11:08Speaker 1: go in and have a sparring match with the night. Yeah. Well,
- 11:12Speaker 1: I mean they were usually trying to be pretty tactical
- 11:15Speaker 1: because you know the thought of like fighting a night
- 11:18Speaker 1: and they'd hit him in the le like oh you
- 11:20Speaker 1: got my leg, and you'd go down on one knee,
- 11:21Speaker 1: which is you know, kind of a hit location game,
- 11:24Speaker 1: which are the kind of games I play. But what
- 11:26Speaker 1: a great idea not to get kids into LARPing. But yeah,
- 11:30Speaker 1: if I were a kid and I was like, oh,
- 11:32Speaker 1: give me a sword and fight a night, one hundred
- 11:34Speaker 1: percent so smart.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Yeah, now it makes me think of a Renaissance festival
- 11:40Speaker 2: type event I went to when I was a kid.
- 11:44Speaker 2: It was really small, one of those very small ones,
- 11:46Speaker 2: but they had like a an archery area where you
- 11:50Speaker 2: were using buffer archery arrows, which were I mean, these
- 11:55Speaker 2: were in the old days where it was essentially like
- 11:56Speaker 2: a tennis ball on the end of a dowel rod
- 11:59Speaker 2: and you were firing at people in armor. But I
- 12:03Speaker 2: got into trouble because I kept hitting this one guy
- 12:06Speaker 2: in the the nethers, which I swear I wasn't aiming for,
- 12:10Speaker 2: but it was like it was like his cod piece
- 12:12Speaker 2: had a magnet in it and that the arrows were
- 12:16Speaker 2: made out of the other part part of the magnet.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Because I was like, I swear, I'm not aiming, like
- 12:25Speaker 2: it's a heavy arrow, I'm aiming for his torso it's
- 12:27Speaker 2: going down.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, you do have to correct. So back
- 12:31Speaker 1: when I played Kingskate. I took up archery, and you
- 12:34Speaker 1: just had a bow and then you would you'd have
- 12:38Speaker 1: basically a real arrow shaft with a quarter on the
- 12:41Speaker 1: end of it and then thee the close open cell
- 12:44Speaker 1: foam around it, and yeah, you really have to correct
- 12:48Speaker 1: for the extra weight on the front of that arrow.
- 12:50Speaker 1: And even still, I have a very good friend who
- 12:53Speaker 1: also played that game. He was also a really good archer.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Always if there was an arrow being shot, he was
- 12:59Speaker 1: getting hit in the car.
- 13:00Speaker 2: It's just it's it's the way of things. It's just
- 13:04Speaker 2: what you have to do. Well, speaking speaking of stuff that
- 13:08Speaker 2: we've done since the last time we recorded, we like
- 13:11Speaker 2: to talk about things we've watched, and as it turns out,
- 13:14Speaker 2: both of us have watched a good deal of stuff.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll go I'll go through mine pretty quickly
- 13:20Speaker 1: because a lot of it's not super new. Drop Out
- 13:22Speaker 1: had a new season of Smarty Pants come out, and
- 13:27Speaker 1: I watched the first one of that. I learned my
- 13:29Speaker 1: husband's a monster. I love them. Still watching BSG, still
- 13:35Speaker 1: watching White Lotus. I'm a little bit behind. So far,
- 13:38Speaker 1: they haven't done the thing that's going to trigger me
- 13:40Speaker 1: to go nope and leave I finished Pop Culture Jeopardy.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I like the team that won. I watched the Oscars.
- 13:48Speaker 1: It was pretty low key, which wasn't necessarily bad, but
- 13:51Speaker 1: Pixar didn't win Best Animated Film for once, so that
- 13:55Speaker 1: was cool. And I watched several and man, what an episode.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight's episode episode seven, I think it.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Was maybe maybe we might be up to the last
- 14:10Speaker 1: episode this week.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we haven't seen the one that as usual,
- 14:14Speaker 2: we haven't watched the one that goes live today because
- 14:16Speaker 2: we're working. But yeah, I also caught up on that.
- 14:20Speaker 2: It was. It was a hum dinger of an episode.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Yeah. It it didn't hit any of my X, but
- 14:29Speaker 1: it hit some very like emotionally sensitive places for me.
- 14:33Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised, not angry, but surprised.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I was also like genuinely impressed in a way it
- 14:41Speaker 2: was taking me out of the show, but also I
- 14:43Speaker 2: was genuinely impressed with the cinematography of that episode. Like
- 14:48Speaker 2: there's some really creative choices and some incredibly difficult shots
- 14:53Speaker 2: that were done, like real shots, not they didn't fudge
- 14:57Speaker 2: with CGI or anything. Yeah, were really technically hard to do,
- 15:02Speaker 2: and I was extremely impressed from a technical perspective, even though,
- 15:06Speaker 2: like I said, it kind of took me out a
- 15:09Speaker 2: little bit because if I'm like, if I realize I'm saying, wow,
- 15:12Speaker 2: that's a great shot, I'm no longer thinking I'm seeing
- 15:15Speaker 2: a story. I'm thinking I'm watching a television production. Yeah,
- 15:19Speaker 2: it's subtle, but it does happen well.
- 15:20Speaker 1: And then and then this episode dropped such a hint
- 15:24Speaker 1: on stuff that's happening a couple of them, but not
- 15:27Speaker 1: enough to actually figure out what's going on that. Yeah,
- 15:30Speaker 1: I mean I was also trying to figure it out.
- 15:32Speaker 2: We're all pretty sure that kir is actually a goat.
- 15:36Speaker 2: That's really what it seems to be.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Now, it's it's a really just keefer and they forgot
- 15:43Speaker 1: the fat.
- 15:45Speaker 2: But you also watched the first couple of episodes of
- 15:49Speaker 2: a new series on Disney Plus, as I.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Understand, Yeah, Devil Dare Double ol.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Dare Devil Dare where kids get together, they blind the
- 15:59Speaker 2: kid kids, and then they compete in various physical challenges.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, so over the over the week, I think on Tuesday,
- 16:09Speaker 1: Daredevil Born Again the first two episodes dropped and I
- 16:11Speaker 1: watched those. I was a fan of the Netflix show,
- 16:15Speaker 1: and it felt like the Netflix show. I mean it
- 16:17Speaker 1: didn't feel rehashy it. My husband is debating even whether
- 16:22Speaker 1: it's in the same universe, though.
- 16:23Speaker 2: I would wager that it is. I don't know. I haven't.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Did you watch all there were three seasons of Daredevil.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I did. I didn't like the later seasons, but I
- 16:34Speaker 1: want to say I watched only the first two.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I don't think I ever. Did the third one come
- 16:38Speaker 2: out after the Defenders or after?
- 16:42Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think it came out before, before
- 16:46Speaker 1: or during. I've watched all of Daredevil. The only thing
- 16:50Speaker 1: that I have not finished watching out of all of
- 16:53Speaker 1: the Netflix Defender stuff, which is for those who don't
- 16:56Speaker 1: know Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage not Nick
- 17:00Speaker 1: Cage and Iron Fist.
- 17:04Speaker 2: And which I almost called iron Claw.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing that I oh, and I guess Punisher.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I only watched the first season of Punisher.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't. I'm way way behind because I've only
- 17:19Speaker 2: watched I saw the first two seasons of Daredevil, and
- 17:22Speaker 2: I saw the first season of Jessica Jones, so I
- 17:25Speaker 2: didn't see any of the rest. Like I didn't watch,
- 17:29Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't get through a full season of
- 17:31Speaker 2: Luke Cage. I liked what I saw, I just dropped
- 17:34Speaker 2: off of it. It was in the first season. I
- 17:36Speaker 2: didn't ever watch any of Iron Fists. I haven't seen
- 17:39Speaker 2: the Defenders. I haven't seen any of The Punisher other
- 17:45Speaker 2: than like his appearances in Daredevil. Yeah. So like as
- 17:50Speaker 2: much as I really liked that first season of Daredevil,
- 17:52Speaker 2: I was a bad fan and that I didn't follow
- 17:55Speaker 2: any of the restless stuff.
- 17:57Speaker 1: It was it was the TV that my husband and
- 18:01Speaker 1: I could agree on watching together for a bit because
- 18:03Speaker 1: I liked so much. This is not a dig on
- 18:06Speaker 1: him at all. I like so many different genres and
- 18:10Speaker 1: shows that it is impossible to like all the same
- 18:15Speaker 1: things as me. On the other hand, Tony is a
- 18:19Speaker 1: lot less affected by some things that I have a
- 18:24Speaker 1: harder time watching, so a lot of times he'll go
- 18:26Speaker 1: down and watch a show without me, or I'll watch
- 18:28Speaker 1: a show without him. But this was something we could
- 18:29Speaker 1: agree on together. We've gotten we found a lot more
- 18:33Speaker 1: commonality in our TV show watching stuff, but there's still
- 18:36Speaker 1: plenty of stuff that I like that he does and
- 18:38Speaker 1: vice versa normal right, the only I think everything was
- 18:42Speaker 1: better in its first season, Every single show exception of
- 18:46Speaker 1: Iron Fist. Iron Fist for me was kind of a
- 18:50Speaker 1: dud of a show. Didn't really care for the lead either. However,
- 18:57Speaker 1: the final scene of I think it was season two,
- 19:01Speaker 1: I don't know if it got three seasons. The final
- 19:02Speaker 1: scene of the final season of Iron Fist finally did
- 19:05Speaker 1: something where I'm like, if that was the story, I
- 19:08Speaker 1: would be in because it's hilarious and so, you know,
- 19:15Speaker 1: we talked about I think the last the last show
- 19:18Speaker 1: we did two weeks ago, that they might be bringing
- 19:21Speaker 1: the Defenders back. They better pick up from that spot
- 19:24Speaker 1: in Iron Fist if it is in fact in the
- 19:26Speaker 1: same universe as a prime Marvel Universe DCU MCU, because
- 19:31Speaker 1: otherwise me But back to Daredevil, it was good. It
- 19:39Speaker 1: was interesting. It's we know from the trailers that it's
- 19:43Speaker 1: Matt Murdoch has kind of given up the mask, and
- 19:46Speaker 1: also Kingpin Wilson Fisk kind of gets elected to be mayor.
- 19:54Speaker 1: So you know, for some people, maybe a little bit
- 19:57Speaker 1: close to current events, but not not a one for one,
- 19:59Speaker 1: it's not they didn't. This show was made, you know,
- 20:03Speaker 1: months years ago, so very well done, very well acted,
- 20:08Speaker 1: a little slow, but that's all I can talk about
- 20:11Speaker 1: because they don't want to ruin anything.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Yeah, because I still I have not watched Daredevil yet,
- 20:16Speaker 2: and it's not through lack of interest. I actually really
- 20:19Speaker 2: want to watch it. It's just that this week has
- 20:21Speaker 2: been very busy for both me and my partner Becca.
- 20:26Speaker 2: She you know, she's she's had a lot of late
- 20:29Speaker 2: nights at work, so by the time she gets back
- 20:33Speaker 2: with me trying to get back into the swing of
- 20:35Speaker 2: the Eastern time zone, they're just there was no way
- 20:38Speaker 2: to watch an episode. It was too late, right, Like, Yeah,
- 20:41Speaker 2: so we're hoping we can maybe check it out tonight,
- 20:45Speaker 2: but we'll see. It's okay for me to jump in
- 20:49Speaker 2: with the stuff I've watched.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I said I was going to be quick
- 20:52Speaker 1: and then I absolutely was not, so please.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Well, I also watched Severance, as we've already talked about,
- 20:59Speaker 2: I started. I watched a couple more episodes of High Potential.
- 21:03Speaker 2: I've talked about that one I think two weeks ago.
- 21:06Speaker 2: But I also watched a bunch of stuff that has
- 21:11Speaker 2: been out for a long time, but I had not
- 21:15Speaker 2: dipped my toe in, So I watched the first I
- 21:19Speaker 2: got through the first full season of Mythic Quest, and
- 21:22Speaker 2: I'm now into season two. That's the Rob mcalhany series
- 21:27Speaker 2: that follows a company that's in the computer game business.
- 21:32Speaker 2: They make an MMO called Mythic Quest, and it's very silly.
- 21:37Speaker 2: It's very much a send up of the video game
- 21:41Speaker 2: industry and all the stuff that surrounds the video game industry,
- 21:46Speaker 2: including like streamers and that kind of stuff. That being said,
- 21:50Speaker 2: they've also included a couple of episodes that are sort
- 21:54Speaker 2: of tangentially related to the main storyline, but only like
- 21:59Speaker 2: one of them in the first one called Dark Quiet Death,
- 22:04Speaker 2: is barely connected to the main story at all, and
- 22:08Speaker 2: yet it's one of the best. It's my favorite episode
- 22:12Speaker 2: from season one, and I like the show, but that
- 22:16Speaker 2: episode in particular was really powerful, a strength, particularly emotional,
- 22:22Speaker 2: kind of tragic, interesting, well worth watching. Like I don't
- 22:26Speaker 2: put it as high up as a long long time
- 22:31Speaker 2: from the Last of Us. That episode, I think is
- 22:34Speaker 2: still the best episode of TV I've ever seen. This
- 22:38Speaker 2: is not that good, but it's approaching that for me.
- 22:41Speaker 1: But don't you don't expect that from a show like
- 22:43Speaker 1: Mythic Quest, which is largely dark comedy.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And there's still quite a bit of comedy
- 22:49Speaker 2: in a dark, quiet death, but it's it's tinged with
- 22:54Speaker 2: a lot of sadness. If you're an empathetic person like me,
- 22:59Speaker 2: it's gonna hit you hard. And also if you care
- 23:03Speaker 2: deeply about things like creative passion and control over your
- 23:10Speaker 2: your creative endeavors, if you care about that kind of stuff,
- 23:14Speaker 2: it'll hit you hard because it's really it's all about
- 23:17Speaker 2: the balance you have to take between pursuing your creative
- 23:21Speaker 2: vision and making concessions in order for that to be
- 23:25Speaker 2: a reality, right, Like, ultimately it comes down the balance
- 23:29Speaker 2: between art and commerce, which is an incredibly we'll talk
- 23:32Speaker 2: about that more in this episode, but that's an incredibly
- 23:36Speaker 2: challenging thing to do, Like how do you balance out
- 23:40Speaker 2: the desire to create art versus the need to cater
- 23:45Speaker 2: to commerce in order to make that a possibility? And
- 23:48Speaker 2: sometimes you make the wrong choice and you don't know
- 23:50Speaker 2: it's the wrong choice until after you've made the decision
- 23:54Speaker 2: and then it's too late. That's kind of what A
- 23:56Speaker 2: dark quiet Death is ultimately all about. And they did
- 24:00Speaker 2: a really good job handling it, especially considering that it's
- 24:03Speaker 2: you know, that's short form TV. It's not like they
- 24:07Speaker 2: had a full hour to tell that story, so highly recommend,
- 24:10Speaker 2: even if you just watched that episode, because you can
- 24:14Speaker 2: watch it outside the context of the rest of the show,
- 24:17Speaker 2: because it really doesn't cross over into that very much.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Highly recommended. I watched a bit more of Harley Quinn
- 24:26Speaker 2: the animated series. I got through the first season. I'm
- 24:29Speaker 2: into season two. I'm enjoying that. I started watching Resident Alien,
- 24:35Speaker 2: the Allan Tutick series.
- 24:37Speaker 1: What do you think about that one?
- 24:39Speaker 2: I like it, actually I do. What do you not
- 24:42Speaker 2: like it? No?
- 24:44Speaker 1: So like in the first season, I think in like
- 24:46Speaker 1: the first couple of episodes, the alien is doing the
- 24:49Speaker 1: thing where like this puckered in this puckered and this
- 24:53Speaker 1: part was left unaffected, and I thought it was a
- 24:57Speaker 1: bad attempt at a crash joke that was not creative
- 25:01Speaker 1: and landed poorly with me. And that kind of like
- 25:04Speaker 1: felt from there on. The humor kind of felt.
- 25:06Speaker 2: That way across the board. I can see what you're saying,
- 25:10Speaker 2: Like I think of it. I think of it as
- 25:14Speaker 2: a slightly less zany take than say Third Rock from
- 25:19Speaker 2: the Sun, where the idea is that there's this alien
- 25:23Speaker 2: life for him, that is, in this case, he was
- 25:28Speaker 2: not sent to Earth to study humans that's not the purpose.
- 25:32Speaker 2: He's forced to be a human because his mission is
- 25:35Speaker 2: to actually wipe out humanity, but his ship crashes before
- 25:39Speaker 2: he's able to deploy his weapon, and so he's posing
- 25:44Speaker 2: as a human while he's still intent, at least in
- 25:46Speaker 2: the first season, he's still intent to carry out his mission,
- 25:50Speaker 2: and so his observations are things that he wasn't expecting
- 25:55Speaker 2: at all, Right, Like he was never intending to pose
- 25:58Speaker 2: as a human being, just has to in order to
- 26:02Speaker 2: try and complete his mission. And yeah, I get that,
- 26:06Speaker 2: Like there's some of that crassness, but Alan Tudick's performance
- 26:10Speaker 2: is still really entertaining, and I actually really like the
- 26:14Speaker 2: ensemble cast a lot. I think everyone is doing a
- 26:18Speaker 2: pretty darn good job on that show. It is a
- 26:21Speaker 2: little weird because all the humans are pretty quick to
- 26:25Speaker 2: dismiss how weird Alan Tudick's character is. They accept it
- 26:31Speaker 2: way easier than you think a normal human actually would.
- 26:35Speaker 2: That's a little weird.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think I think part of the problem
- 26:38Speaker 1: for me, And I've watched a season and a half
- 26:40Speaker 1: of it, maybe a full two seasons, I don't know,
- 26:44Speaker 1: but so I've got I watched the entire first season
- 26:47Speaker 1: and a good part of the second season because I
- 26:50Speaker 1: had a bunch of friends who liked it. I'm like, Okay, well,
- 26:52Speaker 1: maybe maybe it'll grow on me. I made a friend
- 26:55Speaker 1: watch ten episodes of Lost once to try to get
- 26:57Speaker 1: it to grow on them. They quit just at the
- 26:59Speaker 1: point where it got good. But you couldn't skip those
- 27:01Speaker 1: first time. But the cast is great. I think their
- 27:05Speaker 1: acting is good, and I like their chemistry together. Again,
- 27:10Speaker 1: you said some of them are quick to dismiss how
- 27:12Speaker 1: weird things are. It's a writing thing for me. It
- 27:15Speaker 1: just doesn't quite hit. But I think part of the
- 27:18Speaker 1: problem is I was also I also started watching it
- 27:21Speaker 1: at the same time I was watching Doom Patrol, another
- 27:26Speaker 1: thing that Alan Judic was in, because he's in everything
- 27:28Speaker 1: because he's a very talented and lucky guy. And so
- 27:33Speaker 1: it was like, I'm watching Doom Patrol and that humor
- 27:35Speaker 1: very much hit for me, and so it just didn't
- 27:38Speaker 1: quite compare.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I can see that, Like, I'm finding it
- 27:43Speaker 2: entertaining enough to stick with it. Right. It hasn't become
- 27:47Speaker 2: one of my favorite shows, but it's one where I'm like,
- 27:50Speaker 2: I'll keep watching this. On top of that, I watched
- 27:54Speaker 2: the movie Wolf's while I was on my flight to Qatar.
- 27:59Speaker 2: No wait, that was coming back from Katar?
- 28:01Speaker 1: Is that the French one?
- 28:02Speaker 2: No Wolf's is a film on Apple TV Plus. It's
- 28:07Speaker 2: got Brad Pitt and George Clooney and they're both playing fixers.
- 28:12Speaker 2: So like the Wolf, the wolf from pulp fiction, right,
- 28:15Speaker 2: they're the they're the guy you call it. You've never
- 28:18Speaker 2: seen pulp fiction.
- 28:19Speaker 1: I've seen like five minutes and I fell asleep.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I mean, we'll have to watch it sometime. It's you know,
- 28:24Speaker 2: it's it's it's an important movie in pop culture frame.
- 28:29Speaker 2: But anyway, the wolf is who you would call if
- 28:32Speaker 2: let's say that you know you unexpectedly murdered somebody and
- 28:37Speaker 2: now you need to clear up all the evidence so
- 28:40Speaker 2: that the police don't figure out that you you unalived
- 28:43Speaker 2: a person. You call the wolf, and the wolf comes
- 28:45Speaker 2: in and knows how to clean a scene so that
- 28:50Speaker 2: you know there's no evidence left behind. That's essentially Brad
- 28:53Speaker 2: Pitt and George Clooney both play characters who do this.
- 28:56Speaker 2: They are unaware of one another. At the beginning of
- 28:59Speaker 2: the movie. They both believe themselves to be the best
- 29:03Speaker 2: at what they do and that no one else can
- 29:05Speaker 2: do what they do, so's there's a lot of like
- 29:09Speaker 2: conflict when they come into contact with one another because
- 29:12Speaker 2: they both kind of have this chip on their shoulder
- 29:15Speaker 2: of being really good at it and they can't believe
- 29:19Speaker 2: anyone else could be as good as they are, and
- 29:22Speaker 2: yet they both are forced to work together to deal
- 29:25Speaker 2: with the aftermath of a scene in a hotel room.
- 29:29Speaker 2: That's all I'll say, because it's worth watching. It's entertaining.
- 29:35Speaker 2: It's not like the best film I've ever seen or anything.
- 29:39Speaker 2: It's largely carried by the performances of Pitt and Clooney.
- 29:41Speaker 2: But it is fun to watch.
- 29:43Speaker 1: I think I remember us talking about that trailer when
- 29:45Speaker 1: it came out. Is it more entertaining or less entertaining
- 29:48Speaker 1: than The Gorge?
- 29:50Speaker 2: I'd say it's more entertaining than The Gorge.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Fantastic.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I thought the Gorge was fine. This is better than fine.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Would put it as good, uh, And that the parts
- 30:04Speaker 2: that are really really fun are because of Pitt and
- 30:08Speaker 2: Clooney and their chemistry. They're just they're great together, and
- 30:11Speaker 2: of course they've worked together before multiple times. So yeah,
- 30:16Speaker 2: I recommend checking it out if you're just looking for
- 30:19Speaker 2: something to watch. Oh, and I also watched the first
- 30:22Speaker 2: couple of episodes of Reacher season three, or as I
- 30:26Speaker 2: like to call it, Toxic Masculinity, the series, which I'm
- 30:32Speaker 2: just really watching at this point to see one man
- 30:37Speaker 2: meat mountain fight another man meat mountain. It just hasn't
- 30:40Speaker 2: happened yet, but you can tell it's going to.
- 30:44Speaker 1: You need protein in your diet, so there you go.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Yeah that they're this, Just watching this will give you
- 30:50Speaker 2: an excess of protein. So can't recommend it really because
- 30:55Speaker 2: I find it. I don't know. I find it to
- 30:58Speaker 2: be a little too juvenile, power fantasy ish for me,
- 31:03Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm still watching it. I have
- 31:07Speaker 2: no I have no good excuse.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't. You don't need an
- 31:13Speaker 1: excuse to watch things.
- 31:15Speaker 2: John Maybe not. I can't justify it though, Okay, but anyway, Yeah,
- 31:21Speaker 2: that's that's what I'm watching. And now we are half
- 31:24Speaker 2: an hour into this episode.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you said we were really just using
- 31:28Speaker 1: it to catch up, but I mean it's all geeky stuff.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Yeah. We also we really whittled down a lot of stuff,
- 31:36Speaker 2: Like we had our lineup was about twice as long
- 31:39Speaker 2: as it is right now. But then we were like,
- 31:43Speaker 2: we made some decisions some stuff we felt was kind
- 31:45Speaker 2: of on the cusp as far as whether or not
- 31:47Speaker 2: it's really geeky some stuff. It was like, this is
- 31:50Speaker 2: a final trailer, but it's a trailer for something we've
- 31:54Speaker 2: already talked about the earlier trailers, and not enough has
- 31:56Speaker 2: changed for us to keep it in here. So y'all
- 32:00Speaker 2: are getting the cream of the crop, which is why
- 32:02Speaker 2: we're dithering around so much in the front half.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say, like I am anticipatory for the
- 32:10Speaker 1: things that I'm going to watch this week to talk
- 32:12Speaker 1: about next week.
- 32:13Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so that's also going to be it.
- 32:15Speaker 2: We're going to be probably much more animated, perhaps even
- 32:20Speaker 2: literally next week.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Oh wait, literally animated.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. Okay, we've got fans out there, they
- 32:30Speaker 2: might animate something.
- 32:31Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
- 32:32Speaker 2: I was. I don't have any actual plans. I'm not
- 32:35Speaker 2: I haven't been cast as a voice actor in anything
- 32:37Speaker 2: that was not me. That was not me coyly suggesting that, hey,
- 32:41Speaker 2: you should check out Harley Quinn season six.
- 32:44Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past you, though, but I would
- 32:46Speaker 1: be mad that I didn't know before our listeners.
- 32:49Speaker 2: You would also be mad if you had found out
- 32:51Speaker 2: that I got cast in something and like your agent
- 32:54Speaker 2: didn't bring you up the opportunity.
- 32:58Speaker 1: I mean, so, yes, there was one character in Darreed
- 33:02Speaker 1: Nevil that I'm like, I could have auditioned for that,
- 33:04Speaker 1: but it's fine. The person playing the character is delightful
- 33:07Speaker 1: and I like them a lot. And I am still
- 33:10Speaker 1: new and I'm getting my agent. My agent kicks butt.
- 33:14Speaker 1: I have had an over abundance of blessings of auditions
- 33:18Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, so I'm grateful for every single one. Yeah,
- 33:22Speaker 1: I'm grateful for a really goofy, funny one that was fun,
- 33:25Speaker 1: So thank you, I am. And I've got another one.
- 33:29Speaker 1: I've got a film tomorrow, So I am incredibly grateful.
- 33:33Speaker 1: I don't think my agent listens to this podcast, but
- 33:36Speaker 1: if he does, you're awesome.
- 33:39Speaker 2: I just like giky things so well. No, yeah, And
- 33:43Speaker 2: my comment was more about like, if I landed a
- 33:46Speaker 2: gig and you didn't know about it, and you didn't
- 33:48Speaker 2: even know the gig was a thing, that would be
- 33:51Speaker 2: that would that would that would feel bad to you? Right?
- 33:54Speaker 2: Like I would not I would not do that if I,
- 33:57Speaker 2: if I had the opportunity, I'd be like, hey, Ariel,
- 33:59Speaker 2: I got this crazy, you know, ask and did you
- 34:04Speaker 2: even know about it? I wouldn't spring it on you
- 34:06Speaker 2: on the show, though.
- 34:07Speaker 1: That would be funny, Yeah, for sure, I mean it
- 34:11Speaker 1: would be funny. I would be mad, but not like
- 34:13Speaker 1: real mad mad. Sure, yeah, not green mad, because that's cool. Okay,
- 34:20Speaker 1: So I guess it's time for thirty seconds or less.
- 34:24Speaker 2: All right, let's let's do this. I believe you will
- 34:27Speaker 2: start us off.
- 34:28Speaker 1: I do. And it just really shouldn't even belong in
- 34:31Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less because I don't want to diminish
- 34:34Speaker 1: someone's passing. George Low passed away. He is the voice
- 34:37Speaker 1: of space Ghost. As the voice of space Ghost, you know,
- 34:41Speaker 1: a big big in the geek community. I know a
- 34:44Speaker 1: lot of friends that have worked with him that really
- 34:46Speaker 1: loved him. I've even had good experience of experiences with
- 34:50Speaker 1: him back when I worked information services at Dragon Con.
- 34:53Speaker 1: He brought us doughnuts and asked us who our daddy was,
- 34:57Speaker 1: which was hilarious. It wasn't in a creepy way. It
- 34:59Speaker 1: was in a fair very fun cute way. But he
- 35:02Speaker 1: was always very nice. The few times that I've been
- 35:04Speaker 1: able to interact with him, he was only sixty seven.
- 35:06Speaker 1: So it's very sad to hear about.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very prolific voice actor, So yeah, sad to
- 35:14Speaker 2: hear that. Well. On Entertainment tonight, the Russo Brothers talked
- 35:18Speaker 2: about their upcoming Avengers movies for Marvel. They revealed that
- 35:22Speaker 2: Robert Downey Jr. Is taking his role as Doctor Doom
- 35:25Speaker 2: very seriously, apparently going so far as to craft a
- 35:29Speaker 2: deep backstory for his character. It's nice to know that
- 35:32Speaker 2: the actors are sometimes putting in more thought behind their
- 35:35Speaker 2: characters than the studio does sometimes.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Next more Marvel news, Daredevil obviously hasn't dropped its whole
- 35:46Speaker 1: first new season, but we already had news about season two.
- 35:49Speaker 1: I guess you know skip thirty seconds ahead if you
- 35:52Speaker 1: don't want anything about anything. We have learned that the
- 35:56Speaker 1: actress who plays Karen Page will be in season two.
- 35:59Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Cool. Well, as millennials quiver with excitement over the thought
- 36:06Speaker 2: of another film in the Shrek series being on the way,
- 36:09Speaker 2: one gen z actor is getting ready to call the
- 36:12Speaker 2: big Green Ogre Daddy. That would be Zendaya, who will
- 36:15Speaker 2: be voicing Shrek's daughter in the upcoming film so far,
- 36:19Speaker 2: we don't really have any details as to what the
- 36:21Speaker 2: plot is going to be, but Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy,
- 36:24Speaker 2: and Cameron Diaz are all slated to return way to make.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Shrek creepier than Darty was.
- 36:30Speaker 2: I was so proud of the title I made in
- 36:33Speaker 2: our lineup, whereas like Ariel's gonna hate this yep.
- 36:39Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, we got news that Tiana from Princess,
- 36:48Speaker 1: which is a movie I've only seen half of. I
- 36:49Speaker 1: need to sit down.
- 36:50Speaker 2: And watch it.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Along with the ampersion of group stuff anyhow, was going
- 36:57Speaker 1: to get a TV show on Disney Plus. While that
- 36:59Speaker 1: got pushed back and push back and push back, and
- 37:01Speaker 1: then the other show that it was slated to go with,
- 37:04Speaker 1: the Malana Show, got turned into a movie. And so
- 37:08Speaker 1: now the show has been turned into something that's going
- 37:11Speaker 1: to be more of like a short form format, whatever
- 37:14Speaker 1: that means. And we don't know when that's coming out.
- 37:16Speaker 1: It's not completely gone, but it's dwindling.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be surprised if this ultimately dies on the vine,
- 37:26Speaker 2: which would be a shame but is a possibility. Well.
- 37:30Speaker 2: John Francis Day and Jonathan Goldstein are screenwriters known for
- 37:34Speaker 2: working on Dunges and Dragons, honor among thieves, as well
- 37:37Speaker 2: as a project called Game Night. Now they are hoping
- 37:40Speaker 2: to avoid jail by taking a chance opening a different
- 37:44Speaker 2: kind of community chest. By that, I mean they've been
- 37:47Speaker 2: tapped to write a film based off the board game Monopoly.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Hopefully this turns out to be more like Clue and
- 37:53Speaker 2: less like Battleship.
- 37:59Speaker 1: David Arquette, who like Dewey and Scream one through Cinema,
- 38:04Speaker 1: will be back for Scream seven.
- 38:07Speaker 2: I haven't.
- 38:07Speaker 1: I've only seen through Scream three. The third was my favorite.
- 38:12Speaker 1: I know that's can like it say yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Apparently Dewey dies in one of the screams, so we
- 38:22Speaker 1: don't know he's gonna be back.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Yeah. I was actually curious about that. I have not
- 38:28Speaker 2: seen all the screen movies, but it was my understanding
- 38:31Speaker 2: that that character had perished. He almost always gets real
- 38:36Speaker 2: messed up, like stabbed a whole bunch, and then comes
- 38:40Speaker 2: back the next next fell being a bit more limpy
- 38:45Speaker 2: than he was before. So I am curious to see
- 38:48Speaker 2: how this works out well. Employees who are working in
- 38:51Speaker 2: production management at Walt Disney Animation Studios have successfully ratified
- 38:56Speaker 2: their first union contract with the studio, according to Variety,
- 39:01Speaker 2: and it sounds like it was pretty much needed. Production
- 39:04Speaker 2: managers are going to see a twenty four percent raise,
- 39:08Speaker 2: Production supervisors will get a twenty nine percent bump, and
- 39:12Speaker 2: production coordinators will get a thirty five percent pay rise. Solidarity, whoop.
- 39:22Speaker 1: The last I think this is the last one. This
- 39:24Speaker 1: is the last one. I don't know how I'd feel
- 39:27Speaker 1: about this if I were an actor. But Jim Carrey's
- 39:29Speaker 1: highest grossing movie of all time is now Sonic the
- 39:31Speaker 1: Hedgehog three above Bruce Almighty and The Truman Show and
- 39:37Speaker 1: Man in the Moon, which was great. It has come
- 39:42Speaker 1: in with a total of four hundred and eighty five
- 39:44Speaker 1: point seven million dollars so far. On the one hand,
- 39:48Speaker 1: I would if I don't know how Jim Carrey feels
- 39:50Speaker 1: about it. If it were me, I'd be like, I
- 39:52Speaker 1: wish these other things that meant that were like more
- 39:55Speaker 1: poignant did better. But on the other hand, yay, I'm
- 39:58Speaker 1: in a successful movie.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, let me put to you this way, Ariel.
- 40:03Speaker 2: You know what's different between the money that he got
- 40:06Speaker 2: from Sonic versus the money he got from Man on
- 40:08Speaker 2: the Moon. What nothing? It all spends just the same. Okay, okay, yeah,
- 40:18Speaker 2: the money it's all the same. I mean, I guess
- 40:20Speaker 2: from an artistic level you could get there, but from
- 40:22Speaker 2: a business level, you're like, you know what pays for
- 40:25Speaker 2: another yacht?
- 40:26Speaker 1: I mean true, because I think he had retired and
- 40:28Speaker 1: then came out of retirement to do it because yazah,
- 40:32Speaker 1: I need the money.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Well, let's talk about some of the trailers
- 40:37Speaker 2: and stuff we got. And first up, we got a
- 40:40Speaker 2: trailer for the second season of and Or. I still
- 40:45Speaker 2: have not watched season one, but I will say the
- 40:48Speaker 2: trailer for season two one it looks tense as heck.
- 40:53Speaker 2: It also looks real slick, like super high production value,
- 40:59Speaker 2: like on the level of one of the Star Wars movies,
- 41:02Speaker 2: which you know, as much as I like Mandalorian, I
- 41:05Speaker 2: felt that that was maybe a half step below the
- 41:08Speaker 2: Star Wars like film production value. This looks like it's
- 41:14Speaker 2: on the same level. Like it actually looks better to
- 41:17Speaker 2: me than Rogue one Dead. So I was really impressed
- 41:21Speaker 2: by the production stuff. And I mean, like, the trailer
- 41:24Speaker 2: is really intense. It is odd to have a modern
- 41:30Speaker 2: song playing against a Star Wars trailer that kind of
- 41:34Speaker 2: threw me out of things. But other than that, I
- 41:37Speaker 2: thought it was pretty good.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I still need to watch the latest Star Wars show,
- 41:42Speaker 1: the one about that's essentially the Goonies. I watched the
- 41:45Speaker 1: first episode and enjoyed it, and then got distracted by
- 41:48Speaker 1: a million other things. I have watched some of V
- 41:52Speaker 1: and Or season one. I'm slowly getting through it, like
- 41:55Speaker 1: ten minutes twenty minutes at a time, and then I'll
- 41:58Speaker 1: realize that I've been playing on my phone the entire
- 42:01Speaker 1: episode and have to go back and watch it again.
- 42:04Speaker 1: It is getting better the later it goes on. I
- 42:06Speaker 1: just found the pacing too slow, and I like a
- 42:09Speaker 1: good noir, but I found the pacing too slow, and
- 42:13Speaker 1: there wasn't enough to make me care about the situation
- 42:17Speaker 1: the characters were in at the start. It also had
- 42:21Speaker 1: some issues with like Boba fet with like going back
- 42:24Speaker 1: and forth with flashbacks, which wouldn't have been a problem
- 42:27Speaker 1: if I hadn't kind of gotten singed by it from
- 42:31Speaker 1: Bubba fet.
- 42:33Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is getting better. It is tense. Can
- 42:38Speaker 1: I give you a synopsis of what's happening? No? Season
- 42:41Speaker 1: two looks good, though I will say that it didn't
- 42:43Speaker 1: feel as tense. The trailer didn't feel as tense to
- 42:45Speaker 1: me as maybe it did to you, I would wager,
- 42:48Speaker 1: but it looks very good, and you're right. The production
- 42:51Speaker 1: value is very high, and I think that the trailer
- 42:54Speaker 1: does something fixes something that I have been struggling with
- 42:58Speaker 1: in Star Wars a little bit.
- 43:00Speaker 2: Which is.
- 43:03Speaker 1: I want to see Star Wars stories that are outside.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Of the Skywalkers. The Skywalkers.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm happy for all of those, and especially
- 43:13Speaker 1: the ones that aren't prequels though, and ors a prequel,
- 43:19Speaker 1: but but it's a prequel to a prequel, but it's
- 43:25Speaker 1: Star Wars. The newer stuff, I feel like has been
- 43:29Speaker 1: putting in a lot of like modern slick industrial feelings,
- 43:35Speaker 1: stuff that we had some of it in the original series,
- 43:39Speaker 1: more of it in the three prequels, and then some
- 43:45Speaker 1: I guess some more of it in the latest trilogy
- 43:48Speaker 1: of Star Wars. But it is always felt disjointed to me.
- 43:51Speaker 1: So it feels like I'm stepping from a Star Wars
- 43:53Speaker 1: world to mass effect to suburbia, and and getting all
- 44:01Speaker 1: of those tones to fit together hasn't been something that
- 44:05Speaker 1: I felt like Star Wars has done super well, even
- 44:07Speaker 1: though I fully accept that they all exist in this
- 44:11Speaker 1: universe long ago and far away, but this trailer does
- 44:14Speaker 1: it really well.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is tough because the original trilogy set
- 44:18Speaker 2: so much of the tone, and it's set in an
- 44:22Speaker 2: outer rim environment, right, Like all the planets that we
- 44:26Speaker 2: see in the original trilogy are supposed to be on
- 44:28Speaker 2: the outskirts of the Empire, so that can explain away.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a worn down sector, like everything. All
- 44:37Speaker 2: the ships are old and you know, like the Millennium
- 44:41Speaker 2: Falcon is kind of a patchwork, and the X wings
- 44:44Speaker 2: and stuff all look like they've been hobbled together by
- 44:48Speaker 2: a rebellion, because that's what's supposed to be. But we
- 44:50Speaker 2: never really saw the other worlds where things were more slick,
- 44:54Speaker 2: so those felt more out of place, especially for me,
- 44:58Speaker 2: like in the prequels, where everything felt new and like
- 45:01Speaker 2: fresh out of the box, and that was kind of
- 45:03Speaker 2: odd compared to the first trilogy. But it is fair
- 45:07Speaker 2: to say that all these things can coexist in the
- 45:09Speaker 2: same universe. It just felt weird because we never saw
- 45:12Speaker 2: any of that. Other than the fact that the Empire
- 45:15Speaker 2: ships looked fairly new and pristine. We didn't really see
- 45:19Speaker 2: any of that in the original trilogy, so it fell
- 45:21Speaker 2: out of place. I guess this series for me would
- 45:26Speaker 2: probably have the same problem that all prequels have for me,
- 45:28Speaker 2: which is that you know what's going to happen, Like
- 45:32Speaker 2: you know what the ultimate ending is for these characters,
- 45:35Speaker 2: like we've already seen that, so they can't be put
- 45:39Speaker 2: in any situation where you don't know if they're going
- 45:42Speaker 2: to make it out because you know how their story
- 45:44Speaker 2: ends already, And that does make it a bit of
- 45:48Speaker 2: a challenge. But it looks like it's well made, so
- 45:50Speaker 2: that at least I'm very excited about. Don't know, maybe
- 45:55Speaker 2: it'll be enough for me to watch it, because like
- 45:57Speaker 2: I'm so burnt out on Star Wars. It's like I
- 46:00Speaker 2: still haven't seen Mandalorian season three, let alone any like
- 46:05Speaker 2: I haven't seen Osaka or whatever her name is, Ahsoka.
- 46:09Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of her stuff.
- 46:12Speaker 1: I'm much further behind in all of my Star Wars.
- 46:15Speaker 1: And I was excited about like the Accolade, and I
- 46:17Speaker 1: haven't gotten.
- 46:18Speaker 2: To that either. I haven't watched that either.
- 46:21Speaker 1: That falls into the place of Tony was super into
- 46:23Speaker 1: The Mandalorian with me and Boba Fett kind of and
- 46:25Speaker 1: and or both kind of hit us as like, so
- 46:28Speaker 1: getting him to watch New Star Wars with me is
- 46:31Speaker 1: a little bit more of a challenge, and then I
- 46:33Speaker 1: have to find time to watch it by myself.
- 46:35Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, as far behind as I am with Star Wars,
- 46:40Speaker 2: it's nothing, nothing like how far behind I am with
- 46:44Speaker 2: Doctor Who. But we did get a trailer for what
- 46:47Speaker 2: they are now calling season two of Doctor Who, because
- 46:51Speaker 2: screw you, that's why.
- 46:55Speaker 1: It's season two. So I think it's because cheety Gatwa
- 47:03Speaker 1: Doctor has been on Disney Plus. So Disney kind of
- 47:08Speaker 1: is now the forerunner, at least in the US for
- 47:10Speaker 1: Doctor Who. I don't remember if it's also in the UK.
- 47:13Speaker 1: I think it's still a BBC thing over there. But
- 47:17Speaker 1: you know, in the UK they call it series and
- 47:20Speaker 1: over here they call it seasons. So technically I guess
- 47:23Speaker 1: it's the first seed. It is the second season of
- 47:27Speaker 1: gott was Doctor, so it's kind of correct.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so confusing because if you're talking about
- 47:34Speaker 2: seasons the way you would in a sane person, thirty
- 47:40Speaker 2: nine right, like, like, how do you because we already
- 47:44Speaker 2: renumbered the seasons with Eccleston's Doctor right like that was
- 47:49Speaker 2: kind of seen as a full reboot, even though it
- 47:52Speaker 2: was a continuation, like he was not the first doctor,
- 47:55Speaker 2: he was like the eighth or ninth, ninth I think. So. Yeah,
- 48:01Speaker 2: just very confusing for people like me who just if
- 48:04Speaker 2: you're trying to tell me about something that's happened in
- 48:07Speaker 2: the Doctor Who, continue and first of all, don't bother.
- 48:09Speaker 2: I'm not interested enough and it's going to take you
- 48:12Speaker 2: way too long to try and do it in a
- 48:13Speaker 2: way that even makes sense to me. But secondly, this
- 48:17Speaker 2: numbering system makes it even worse.
- 48:21Speaker 1: It does actually make it harder to find on Disney
- 48:24Speaker 1: Plus Disney Plus if you're listening, it is confusing to
- 48:28Speaker 1: find new episodes of this series of Doctor Who. I
- 48:33Speaker 1: would say that you could start with Shooty. There's a
- 48:37Speaker 1: couple of characters that they introduced earlier on you know,
- 48:40Speaker 1: and of course there's a bunch of backstory you miss,
- 48:42Speaker 1: But you could start with this doctor's story if you
- 48:47Speaker 1: had interest. Not saying that you do that being said,
- 48:52Speaker 1: even though he's not my favorite doctor, this trailer looks
- 48:56Speaker 1: really good.
- 48:57Speaker 2: It does. It looks high in our it looks exciting. Again.
- 49:03Speaker 2: Production values I think are probably the highest they've ever
- 49:06Speaker 2: been for Doctor Who. I think it's fair to say,
- 49:08Speaker 2: like Doctor Who has something of an infamous reputation, especially
- 49:14Speaker 2: in the early seasons, of being adorably low budget, like
- 49:19Speaker 2: they're telling great stories with great actors with no money,
- 49:24Speaker 2: and sometimes that is evident on screen to a point
- 49:28Speaker 2: where it's almost comedic. And then once the reboot happened,
- 49:33Speaker 2: they got you a pretty big boost in budget, but still,
- 49:39Speaker 2: you know, not like crazy high budget, just better, right,
- 49:45Speaker 2: And then this most recent one looks like to me,
- 49:47Speaker 2: at least, it might be the most money that's ever
- 49:49Speaker 2: been poured into Doctor Who.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say not. They weren't always telling great stories.
- 49:54Speaker 1: Some episodes of Doctor Who are just crap. They're not crap.
- 50:01Speaker 1: They are not good to me. I'm sure some people
- 50:04Speaker 1: enjoy them, but I'm just like, this is such a
- 50:06Speaker 1: dumb story.
- 50:06Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
- 50:09Speaker 1: But this trailer for this season, yeah, very high budget.
- 50:15Speaker 1: It's got some interesting new like things in there that
- 50:18Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how they explore. It doesn't rely
- 50:22Speaker 1: too heavily on past nostalgia either. There might be a
- 50:26Speaker 1: couple of things in there from the past that true
- 50:29Speaker 1: Doctor Who whites are going to be like, oh that
- 50:32Speaker 1: none of them pinged me. I'm a little bit rusty
- 50:35Speaker 1: on Doctor Who, I will admit, and you know, a
- 50:37Speaker 1: little bit distracted. I've been very busy the past couple
- 50:40Speaker 1: of months. But it looks really good. I'm excited to
- 50:43Speaker 1: see where they go. I immediately like he's going to
- 50:46Speaker 1: have at least partially a new companion this series, and
- 50:49Speaker 1: I love her already.
- 50:52Speaker 2: So.
- 50:54Speaker 1: I am excited for this. I am more excited for
- 50:57Speaker 1: Doctor Who than I've been in a while.
- 50:58Speaker 2: That's great. I love hearing I also I love the
- 51:01Speaker 2: shot of the cartoon character emerging all the cinema screen.
- 51:05Speaker 2: That to me was like like peak, it peaked my interest.
- 51:10Speaker 1: I'm more excited about that than anything else I think.
- 51:12Speaker 1: I hope it's a good episode.
- 51:13Speaker 2: I hope that the closest I can compare it to
- 51:16Speaker 2: as far as interest goes. And I haven't watched the
- 51:19Speaker 2: other one, by the way, but it's the episode with
- 51:22Speaker 2: Neil Patrick Harris playing the toymaker or whatever. Like I
- 51:26Speaker 2: was interested in that because of Neil Patrick Harris, and
- 51:28Speaker 2: then it's clips of it. It was like, maybe I
- 51:30Speaker 2: need to check this a little bit.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Neil Patrick Harris is fun. It is
- 51:35Speaker 1: it was fun in the conclusion, but it relied heavily
- 51:42Speaker 1: on former Doctor Who knowledge, like old school doctor Who.
- 51:46Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about ecleston on. I'm talking about
- 51:48Speaker 1: prior to eccleston knowledge.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Yea, that's the character or something. Yeah, he was.
- 51:53Speaker 1: He was playing a character that showed up a long
- 51:55Speaker 1: time ago and kind of referring to things that even
- 52:00Speaker 1: I had to remind myself what they were. So it
- 52:05Speaker 1: was fun, but it wasn't amazing.
- 52:08Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And if you're like me and you ever
- 52:13Speaker 2: try to rely on something like a wiki to help
- 52:15Speaker 2: get you up to speed, let me just save you
- 52:17Speaker 2: the trouble because if you read any wiki related to
- 52:20Speaker 2: Doctor Who, it's like you're reading something written by a
- 52:23Speaker 2: person who themselves is disjointed out of time because you
- 52:27Speaker 2: can't follow anything.
- 52:29Speaker 1: You go through like twenty rabbit holes to try to
- 52:31Speaker 1: find your answer, and then you can't find your way back.
- 52:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fool's errand don't do it. Also, Ariel
- 52:39Speaker 2: would tell you not to go and see Asterix and
- 52:43Speaker 2: Obelix because she felt it was the worst trailer she's
- 52:45Speaker 2: ever seen.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Uh, okay, it's at least the worst trailer I've seen.
- 52:49Speaker 1: In a good while, and I will say it's the
- 52:51Speaker 1: worst movie I've ever seen. Children of Men and Sucker
- 52:54Speaker 1: Punch Fight that out.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Children of Men is a great movie.
- 52:57Speaker 1: It's no it. You know what you are allowed to
- 53:01Speaker 1: enjoy Children of Men. It left me so hopeless that
- 53:06Speaker 1: I questioned why I even watched it. It was just
- 53:11Speaker 1: depressing to me, that's all. And I didn't even think
- 53:16Speaker 1: poignantly depressing, like I The plot was forecast throughout the
- 53:22Speaker 1: entire movie, and then I was left with no hope.
- 53:25Speaker 2: I still feel that your vision of the end of
- 53:28Speaker 2: that movie and mine are fundamentally different than lest.
- 53:31Speaker 1: It up to interpretations, I understand, I understand.
- 53:34Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're wrong about it. I'm just
- 53:36Speaker 2: saying it's obviously one hundred and eighty degrees from what
- 53:39Speaker 2: my interpretation.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Which is interesting because usually I'm a little bit more
- 53:42Speaker 1: optimistic than you.
- 53:43Speaker 2: I would say, yeah anyway. So, but besides your wrong
- 53:47Speaker 2: take on Children of Men, you think.
- 53:51Speaker 1: I use their context clues to figure out what the
- 53:53Speaker 1: end meant. There was no hope in the movie. Why
- 53:56Speaker 1: would they give me any of the end? No, So,
- 53:58Speaker 1: the problem with Asterix's abe, as you talked as you
- 54:01Speaker 1: mentioned when we were talking about this not on the
- 54:03Speaker 1: air is that it's this trailer was translated from French,
- 54:10Speaker 1: which means that some of the jokes and the timing
- 54:12Speaker 1: maybe don't hit quite as well. Some of the voice
- 54:15Speaker 1: acting doesn't quite line up with like the mouth the
- 54:17Speaker 1: mouth movements, and that does hurt it. However, the trailer
- 54:26Speaker 1: has a whole bunch of false starts. The trailer is
- 54:30Speaker 1: very long. There's a whole bunch of false starts, and
- 54:31Speaker 1: then there's a bunch of like talking with little to
- 54:34Speaker 1: know like background music to make it feel exciting, and
- 54:38Speaker 1: then they bring in the background music later and it
- 54:43Speaker 1: barely even focuses on on Asterix or Obelix. And I'm
- 54:46Speaker 1: just like, so the end joke is the only one
- 54:50Speaker 1: that maybe in the trailer is the only one that
- 54:52Speaker 1: maybe has a little bit of humored in it to me,
- 54:54Speaker 1: and that one is so out of context that even
- 54:56Speaker 1: it fails, I could just tell that maybe it's clever.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Well, and let's clear, okay, So Asterisk and Obelix are
- 55:03Speaker 2: a comic strip, a French comic strip, and it follows
- 55:08Speaker 2: these galls g a U l s who live in
- 55:12Speaker 2: what is now France, in the middle of the Roman Empire,
- 55:16Speaker 2: but they are kind of independent, They're resistant, you know.
- 55:20Speaker 2: And so the story of Asterisk and Obelix is usually
- 55:25Speaker 2: about how these two heroic characters, Asterisk, who is this tiny,
- 55:29Speaker 2: little but incredibly strong or incredibly clever warrior, and his
- 55:36Speaker 2: buddy Obelix, who is not as clever but is like
- 55:40Speaker 2: insanely strong, big old buffoon of a character. They're little
- 55:45Speaker 2: misadventures in this world and a lot of I think
- 55:50Speaker 2: the charm of it is reliant upon the French sense
- 55:55Speaker 2: of humor, which is not the same as American or
- 55:58Speaker 2: English sense of humor. And I've seen a lot of
- 56:02Speaker 2: Asterisk and Obelisk stuff over the years. None of it
- 56:05Speaker 2: has ever worked for me, Like it's just it's not
- 56:09Speaker 2: my thing. Like I've tried multiple times and this is
- 56:12Speaker 2: like dating back to the eighties and it just never
- 56:15Speaker 2: even as a kid, it never worked for me. And
- 56:17Speaker 2: this trailer, I wouldn't say it was worse than any
- 56:21Speaker 2: of that, but it wasn't necessarily better either. The animation
- 56:26Speaker 2: looks like it's, you know, pretty good, but yeah, it does.
- 56:30Speaker 2: It doesn't appeal to me either, I think for people
- 56:33Speaker 2: who are fans of it, they might find more in
- 56:37Speaker 2: this than I would, But yeah it didn't. I didn't
- 56:41Speaker 2: have as strong a negative reaction as Ariel did, but
- 56:44Speaker 2: it didn't interest me either.
- 56:46Speaker 1: Yeah. That's really all I gotta say about it. But
- 56:52Speaker 1: I do have a lot to say about the trailer
- 56:55Speaker 1: for The Bondsman, which is Amazon show that's coming out
- 57:00Speaker 1: next month next month, Wow, starring Kevin Bacon, where he
- 57:10Speaker 1: is a guy who dies and then is brought back
- 57:12Speaker 1: to hunt demons. It reminded Jonathan and I of different shows,
- 57:17Speaker 1: but I think equally in a positive way.
- 57:20Speaker 2: Yeah. So he plays a bail bondsman in life, and
- 57:25Speaker 2: so the whole joke here is that he dies and
- 57:29Speaker 2: then Hell essentially employs him to be a bondsman for Hell,
- 57:34Speaker 2: where his job is to go out and wrangle up
- 57:37Speaker 2: demons that have escaped Hell so that they can be
- 57:40Speaker 2: returned to their rightful place. Now. To me, this reminded
- 57:43Speaker 2: me of a show that came out in the mid
- 57:45Speaker 2: two thousands called Reaper. This was I think on the
- 57:49Speaker 2: CW had Ray Weiss as the devil. The plot of
- 57:53Speaker 2: that was that this young man finds out that his
- 57:57Speaker 2: parents had agreed to hand their firstborn son over to
- 58:03Speaker 2: the Devil in return for well, it doesn't matter, but
- 58:08Speaker 2: they had promised him thinking that they were incapable of
- 58:11Speaker 2: having children. They thought they had pulled one over on
- 58:13Speaker 2: the devil. Turns out they're wrong. Kids born. He grows up,
- 58:17Speaker 2: finds out that he's been promised to the devil, and
- 58:19Speaker 2: what the devil wants him to do is to hunt
- 58:22Speaker 2: down escaped souls from Hell. So similar premise. They're souls,
- 58:28Speaker 2: not demons, but they're all really bad people, that's why
- 58:31Speaker 2: they were sent the hell in the first place. That
- 58:33Speaker 2: was like serial killers and stuff, so kind of similar premise.
- 58:38Speaker 2: But Reaper was more of an overt comedy, whereas The
- 58:43Speaker 2: Bondsman looks like it has just a lot of humor
- 58:46Speaker 2: incorporated into kind of a supernatural procedural. Yeah not quite
- 58:51Speaker 2: a zany.
- 58:52Speaker 1: Yeah to me, it looks like supernatural, but where the
- 58:57Speaker 1: main character is Bobby, who is the guy who kind
- 58:59Speaker 1: of sent brothers on a bunch of missions for a while,
- 59:02Speaker 1: kind of like their mentor, although that actor is also great.
- 59:07Speaker 1: My new theory is that it's actually Valentine McKee from
- 59:10Speaker 1: Tremors who has taken on an alias, and this is
- 59:15Speaker 1: and moved away from Tremorland. I've only watched the first
- 59:18Speaker 1: movie and it scared the snookers out of me when
- 59:21Speaker 1: I was little and I watched it, I was I
- 59:23Speaker 1: was only seven when it came out.
- 59:25Speaker 2: I was about to say, like, Tremors scared.
- 59:28Speaker 1: You, Like, yes, I haven't watched it again since.
- 59:32Speaker 2: Oh you should. It is a great entertaining monster movie.
- 59:37Speaker 1: You would also tell me to watch Killer Clowns from
- 59:39Speaker 1: Outer Space, and I did.
- 59:40Speaker 2: Watch that link. Tremor is not good. Trimors will not
- 59:43Speaker 2: scare you. Now you like monster movies, Trimmors will not
- 59:46Speaker 2: scare you. It's not a scary movie. It's an entertaining movie.
- 59:50Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I will rewatch Tremors. But also, this is
- 59:55Speaker 1: my new theory, is that it's a continuation of that.
- 59:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think in the realm of scary,
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Tremor's ranks below Gremlins. So if you can watch, if
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: you can watch Gremlins and get through that, okay, you're
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: fine for Tremors.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: I think I'm less worried about being killed by Gremlins
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: than by sandworms.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Though you don't need to be worried. Listen, we're not
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: living in Frank Herbert's world. We're fine, We're not going
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: to be devoured by sandworms.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: The other interesting about Bondsman is I could not get
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: my husband to watch Supernatural, like he saw enough of
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: it because I watched it when he was around, but
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: he never sat down to watch it with me. But
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: he is interested in watching this new.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: One, so yeah. Well, and a lot of that I
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: think also falls on the shoulders of Kevin Bacon, who's
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: just an amazingly charismatic actor. So uh yeah, I think
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: this looks like it could be really fun to watch,
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: so it's definitely one of those that I'm interested in
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: checking out. I certainly feel like I could watch an
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: episode of The Bondsman and not be left with the
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: question of why did I just watch that, as opposed
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: to say Reacher season three.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: Yeah. Also shout out to Beth Grant who is in this,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: who's also an incredibly funny actress, so it's ay a
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: good cast.
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Next up, we got a trailer for what looks to
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: be like a low budget kind of thinker sci fi
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: film called The Silent Planet. The basic high concept premise
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: is that criminals who have been judged guilty sometimes are
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: sent to distant planets where they are to serve out
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: their sentence in isolation and also do like manual labor,
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: So think about things like old chain gang kind of stuff,
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: except it's them solo and they're supposed to be completely
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: isolated from anyone else. But in the Silent Planet trailer,
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: we see two convicted felons who encounter one another and
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: then the story progresses from there.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Yeah, they both think that they're innocent. One of them
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: is maybe crazy. I will it looks good. The trailer
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: calls it like hearkening back to old sci fi, old
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: classic sci fi, which it definitely has that vibe of,
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: like they went to some desert and ran up and
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: downhills for a while.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: Well, I think it's more about like it's it's more
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: about ideas than it is about technology.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it does like it looks interesting to me. It
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: looks like an interesting story, I will admit though, because
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: I actually saw this is like the first I saw
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: a teaser for this, I think one of the weeks
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: we weren't filming, so we didn't get to talk about it.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: When I first saw the teaser, I thought it was
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: for the CS Lewis film because C. S. Lewis has
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: a sci fi trilogy that Hideous Strength, Perlandria and Out
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: of the Silent Planet. But I was also confused on
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: why it would be the third one first, because I
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: always wanted to be Eve in Peralandria, one of my
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: dream roles if they ever well.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: I mean, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe isn't
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: logically the first of the Narnia books, and yet that's
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: the one everyone always.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: Adapts, which is very true, but it's not. It's a
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: different story. So I still had my chance at being
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: in a C. S.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: Lewis movie, but you don't have a chance of being
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: in Miss Austin because that's already been filmed.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Yeah I missed Austin.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: Yeah, you totally did Miss Austin. We talked about this previously.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: We had an earlier trailer married We had an earlier
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: trailer for this that we chatted about briefly, and in fact,
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: I even thought about removing this one from our lineup,
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: but then I was like, nah, this is actually a
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: much more comprehensive trailer than what we got before. What
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: we got before was more of a teaser, but this
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: is about Jane, Austen's sister traveling to Jane's home in
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: order to find and retrieve letters that were sent to
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: her and that she had written so that no one
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: else gets hold of them, and also to allow herself
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: to reconnect with the sister she has now lost, because
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: it's after Jane's passing, and it looks like a really
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: well done period piece. Looks like it's one that's very
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: reverent toward Jane Austen's work and her relationships with her family.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: So if you are a literature geek like I am,
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: this I imagine will appeal to that part of your personality.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: Yeah, they make it seem and this would make sense
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: that a lot of Jane Austen's stories were kind of
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: based off of her real life family life, at least
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: in this.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: Project they do.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: But it looks, it looks delightful, it looks heartwarming. The
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: person that they've cast as Jane Austen is just so effervescent,
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: Like I she makes me want to watch her, which
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: I'm excited about. Similarly, it's not on our lists, but
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: there's also a trailer that dropped this week called Jane
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Austen Wrecked My Life about a relative of Jane Austen,
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: like down the Line more Modern Day. Yeah, so very funny.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: That should be a double feature.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Then well I might make it one.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be that would be an interesting thing
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: to compare one, compare and contrast the two films.
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Also, you'll be shocked to hear, dear listener, that we
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: have another trailer for a woman in the yard to
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: talk about, and even more shocked to know that I
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: wasn't the one who put this on our list.
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that Jonathan just said we were
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: going to take out trailers that we've already talked about.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: This one gives us a whole lot more information.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: Yeah, before we were just getting like, there's a family,
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: African American family that has a mysterio woman draped in
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: black lacy cloth sitting in the yard, and that she's
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: clearly some sort of ghostly presence. But that was all
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: we got from the teaser. We got a lot more
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: in this trailer.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I will say that I added this
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: because I knew Jonathan was interested in this film. I
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: actually didn't watch the trailer until today, but it is
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: a great trailer. You're right, Jonathan. He had mentioned that
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: it was really good the entire beginning, like thirty seconds
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: of it, which seems short, but it's really a good
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: long time sets up the lovingness and everyday life of
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: the family involved, and it's beautiful.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: It also establishes that they have recently suffered a loss
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: in their family. The father has recently passed away, presumably
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: from a car accident, and that sets up the fact
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: that you know, you have this family now that's trying
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: to heal itself and support one another. And then it
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: introduces the mysterious and supernatural threat of this draped figure
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: in the yard. It also sets up that this ghostly
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: presence has a particular ability that I thought was pretty
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: darn cool.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: Yeah, she can control shadows, which is it seems like
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: maybe her main ability is so like at one point
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: in the trailer, the family is closing windows because if
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: there's not light coming through, she can't use the shadows
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: to get them. I also which it also means it's
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: much more of like a suspenseful movie than a super
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: At least a trailer is more suspenseful than super gory.
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: There's like a little bit of blood.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: Yeah, But it also is interesting to me because in
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: this trailer, the woman in the yard says that she
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: has been called and she can't. She is there to help.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: She has answered a call for help, and she can't
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: leave until she's done it. And it definitely seems but
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: it also makes it feel like there's some sort of
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: like twist to it.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I love that they establish a like call
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: phrase for the ghost. Today's the day very creepy and
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: yeah and menacing without it being you know, like just overt.
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: And as you say, there could be an interesting twist here,
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: although the stuff we see in the trailer does certainly
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: look like she has harmful intent. I'm I'm very excited
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: about this. I love a good ghost story. I love
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: films that are I don't believe in ghosts, but I
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: love ghost stories. And I love a good ghost story
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: movie where you know, tension and atmosphere end up playing
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: an enormous part in getting the story across. This looks
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: like it's doing that, and I'm excited about it.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm now all of a sudden creeped out because
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: when you are editing the episode the other week, there
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: is somebody that whispered and I swear it's.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: Not me.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: In the background.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: I think I think it was you, And the more
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: we listened, I think it was you muttering about like
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: something like come on. Not so we thought that there
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: was a voice that said Karma and it did not
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: sound like Ariel, but it was. It was spoken while
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: I was talking, so it wasn't me and and like
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: I isolated it and it just sounded like Karmel. But
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: I think it was you saying come on, because it
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: was when the leaf blower was going on outside.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So hopefully there aren't ghosts because I would
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: be super creeped out sitting in this room right now.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: They are. They're just on aeriel side because it was
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: on her track, not mine.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is interesting to me. I am
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: interested in this. I'll probably have to do like a
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: does the Dog Die or Common Sense Media or something
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: like that beforehand to prepare myself for what I will
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: be watching.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: Although I did survive Hard.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: Eyes, you know, which was fun and goofy, but which
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: is now streaming, Jonathan, if you wanted.
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: To watch, Oh, I'll definitely have to check that out,
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: thank you.
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is like the first horror movie that
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: I can at least recall that has made me genuinely
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: invested in the family involved in the trailer, I'm rooting for.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: A big thing. Yeah, yeah, which is weird also because
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: we've seen no shortage of trailers that have kind of
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: a similar concept behind them, Like you know, I'm thinking
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: of like, what was it Arcadia with Nick Cage or whatever,
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: or the Tethered one, whatever that one was, but you know,
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: don't let go. Yeah, it is all those movies that
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: were variations on a quiet place. It's really what they were.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: But this one, I think I agree with you. It
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: felt more genuine and relatable to me.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: Yeah, they really took the time to build the relationship first,
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: which is great.
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: It's great.
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: Unlike the next trailer.
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: I was about to say, we got to see so
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: many deep relationships in our next trailer. So our next
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: one is for a Western called gun Slingers. That the
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: most notable thing I would say, I think the thing
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: that ninety nine percent of people who see this trailer
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: or walk away from is that Nick Cage is being
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: like ultimate Nick Cage at his Nick cagiest in this
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: trailer where he's playing it looks like a preacher. He's
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: got smoked glasses that have the lenses are like in
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: the shape of across the darkened part is in the
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: shape of a cross over each eye. It's kind of
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: playing like a Western preacher or maybe like a Ormer
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Gunslinger now Western preacher character, because supposedly the story is
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: taking place in a town in the Old West where
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: every single person in the town is wanted.
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure like it's like in prior to
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: the Caribbean, the Island of Tortuga, where it was kind
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: of like the Yeah I.
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: Was supposed to be like, yeah, was it Tortuga? I thought, yeah,
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: I guess it was. It wasn't Port Royal. I don't know,
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: it's been so long, it's been too like that was
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: the was that the first It was the first film,
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: wasn't it. I just I can't keep them straight in
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: I can't tell you.
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: I can't tell you.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: But yeah, this movie's trying so hard to be like
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: stylized and cool that before we recorded, like earlier this week,
- 1:12:48Speaker 2: when when we were first chatting about the stuff that
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: was on our lineup, I compared it to Boondock Saints,
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: a movie that I think of as pure style over substance,
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: Like that's one of those movies. Yeah, that's one of
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: those movies where if someone is telling me that that's
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: one of their favorite movies. My reaction is, I want
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: to get out of this conversation as soon as I
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: possibly can, because this is you and I are just
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: not compatible. I'm not saying that someone who loves Boondock
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: Saints is wrong. I'm saying that I do not see
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: the world the same way they do, and so I
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: need to get away. This feels like like, oh, let's
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: do something as stylized as Boondock Saints, but not make
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: it look as good.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's interesting because got other It's got
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage, Heather Graham, Stephendorf, lots of actors who have
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: done lots of good stuff. Everybody feels like they're in
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: one movie, except for Nick Cage, who just feels like
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: he's in a different movie.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: Also, the trailer doesn't do us any favors because rather
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: than have a scene play out, even just a short
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: scene where characters are sharing you know, sequential lines of dialogue,
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: all we're getting are excerpts of people saying the quote
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: unquote cool line. So like like there's no scene where
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: we're getting like like two people talking about what's happening
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: or why things are important. Instead, it's like the super
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: cool ironic line you say, after you just gunned down somebody,
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: or you're threatening to gun down somebody, and that's it.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: Like there's no like, it's all cliche, and I just
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: it did not do anything for me. Maybe that's not
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: the fault of the movie. Maybe that's just the fault
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: of the company that cut the trailer, but it does
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: not give me confidence for the film.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I really did it because it's another example
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: of Nick Cage being bonkers. I mean, Western is kind
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: of one of those geeky things. A lot of times
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: will include Western, but it's just Nick Cage really committing
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: to a role and mean not understanding why or what
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: he's committing to in it.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make me wish that Nick Cage had
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: been in Sam Raimi's film The Quick and the Dead.
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: That would have been fun. Also, rest in peace Gene Hackman,
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: because he was in The Quick and the Dead and
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: was an amazing bad guy in that movie. That. By
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: the way, if you haven't seen The Quick and the Dead,
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: that is a bonker's Western.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: I don't think I have.
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, very young Leonardo DiCaprio is in that. Yeah,
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: it's The Quick in the I don't know that they
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: can call it a good movie, but it is entertaining.
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, can I say that I still like westerns
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: if I haven't seen it?
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, No, The Quick in the
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: Dead is such a weird and Bonker's Western, Like, you
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: could go your whole life watching other types of Westerns
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: never seeing The Quick and the Dead. It's no, that's
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: not going to take the shine off of you. Now,
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: if you had said and you said, yeah, I've never
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: seen Unforgiven, and I'd be like, oh, well you should that.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've seen a bunch of really.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: Old western Well, Unforgiven is probably the best modern Western
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: I have seen, also having Gene Hackman as the villain
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: rest in Peace, Gene Hackman brilliant and Unforgiven great movie.
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: But anyway, Gun Slingers does not look like it's gonna
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: be anywhere in the same universe as Unforgiven. But maybe
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: that's just a bad trailer. Will I will withhold judgment,
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: but maybe don't have confidence.
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe see, maybe it'll surprise us like Barbie,
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: I doubt it. The next thing we got was a
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: trailer that Jonathan found for a new HBO series called
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: The Parenting.
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: It's a horror comedy. I included it here because I
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: see what they're doing, but it's not working for me,
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: probably because the comedy, I feel is just too brash
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: and too rude, like I like, I like movies that
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: have blue humor in them if it's done well. And again,
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: this may be the fault of the trailer, but I
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: watched this and I'm like, man, none of this is
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: none of these jokes are landing for me, Like part
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: of it is reliance on shock humor, and it's hard
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: to be shocking considering all the types of entertainment we've
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: had over the years, right, Like, it's hard to do
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: something now that's going to shock you as much as
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: stuff that was like pop culture five years ago, because
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: we've really kind of pushed the limit, especially with show
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: things like on HBO.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: So maybe maybe at that point you find something other
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: than shocking to do, like.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: Good right now? Yeah, right right? And of Kudro's in this,
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: and I feel awful because I'm like, I didn't like
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: her in Time Bandits, and I don't think i'll like
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: her in this either.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: Apparently she is really good in the one where she's
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: married No Good Deed. Apparently she's really good in that
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: one where she's married to Ray Romano and they're trying
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: to sell the house by the same people who did
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: the other movie that had Linda Cardelini or the other
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: shit that had Linda Cardelini in it recently.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: You're not going to get any help from me. But
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: I remember, I remember No Good Deed. I remember because
- 1:18:34Speaker 2: that's like the all the different families that are related
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: to this one piece of real estate, and like their
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: their stories are sort of independent and sort of intertwined
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: with each other. From what I understand. I haven't seen it,
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: so I can't say from catching experience, but yeah, the parenting,
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like a demonic possession slash haunting
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: type of supernatural horror setup. Uh, and then throw in like,
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: what would happen if you were to combine The Exorcist
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: with something like American Pie but not as not as
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: sex raunchy, you know, as American Pie is, but that's
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: sort of kind of brash sense of humor, and then
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: combine that with the storyline from something like The Exorses
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: and Ghosts. Oh, the series on well, I think of that.
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: I think of the BBC version, but okay.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: I never saw the BBC version.
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's so good. Uh, the American one's fine.
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: I think the British one's better, although your mileage may vary.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: I know other people who feel that the British one
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: the characters aren't as relatable, and I can understand that
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: a little bit more distant because it's that British approach
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: to humor. But anyway, yeah, the parenting. I thought this
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: was going to be something to be right up my alley.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: I love horror, I love comedy, and I love a
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: lot of people who are in it. Ryan Cox is
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: in it, you know, Lisa Coutro is in it.
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: Norris Edie Falco, Parker Posey.
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some great, great people in it. But yeah,
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: this trailer just did nothing for me.
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: Same same I actually forwarded onto my husband. I was like,
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: I don't think this is for us, but I'm sharing
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: it with you anyhow. Yeah, it kind of fell flat
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: for me, unfortunately, But maybe this will If stuff with
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: this kind of shock humor falls flat, maybe we'll get
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: some more creative stuff coming out of it.
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: I mean we did. I think we there's no shortage
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: of really creative work out there too, like some of it.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: I think, you know, we've even seen examples of I mean,
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: our flag means Death leaps to mind, like that was
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: a series that I couldn't have imagined coming out. Even Ghosts,
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: the American version of Ghosts, I wouldn't have pecked, because
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: like the BBC one, I felt was fun, but it
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: was the premise is easily translatable. The execution of the
- 1:21:00Speaker 2: BBC one is something where I'm like, oh, this wouldn't
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: work as an American show, But then the American version
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: takes a slightly different tone than the British one does,
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: so it works ultimately because they made some good decisions
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: on where to deviate. But yeah, I think we go ahead, No,
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: you go ahead. I was just gonna say, I don't
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: think there's any shortage of non raunchy humor out there,
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: Like even the shows like Mythic Quest, which have elements
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: of that in it, have plenty of other stuff in
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: there too.
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: I get like it's a it's a this happens all
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: throughout history, you know, Humor changes and boundaries change. But
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, we don't need to push d envelope.
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: Further, there needs there needs to be an envelope there
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: in order to push against. If there's not an envelope,
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: then what are you doing?
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: Yeah? Do we ever get a US version of Space?
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: No? Thank goodness, Space, Space, I think needs to just
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: exist as it is as a perfect two season show.
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: I thought you were saying thank goodness because you've soured
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: to it.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: Oh no, I still love Space. I actually just got
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: the Blu ray set, like literally, my partner gave that
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: to me as a Valentine's Day gift, And yeah, I
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: love That's a show that specifically appeals to my generation.
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: Though that's a very gen X show, not that other
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: generations can't enjoy it, but gen xers, particularly gen X geeks,
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: like that show is like it's perfect.
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: It is aged, not spaced, but Coupling has aged about
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: as well as Friends has to me. But I enjoy
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: it infinitely more.
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. We also to end out our segment.
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: I really thought this was going to be a shorter episode,
- 1:22:55Speaker 2: but I think that every week and I'm always proven wrong.
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, I was being more of a this week.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: So that's good. Though, that's good. I like you being
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: more verbose and not having it just be the Jonathan
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: Show where I take over and don't let you talk.
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: I don't. Every time I edit this, I feel really
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: bad because I'm like, oh, I didn't let.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: I Well, the problem is, like I like listening to you,
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: and I'm also bad at telling when to interject things,
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: and so wait till you're done, and sometimes you're like,
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: come on, coming.
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: Off, except that you've figured out that I've got this
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: circular breathing thing where I don't even need to inhale
- 1:23:32Speaker 2: or keep talking. But yeah, our final trailer, we almost
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: didn't include this, but we we put it in at
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: the last second.
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: The trailer came out like two hours ago, three hours ago.
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, so we got an actual trailer for the
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: series The Studio. It's Seth Rogan.
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: Is that name, Seth Rogan. Catherine O'Hara is in it.
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: Catherine Hahn is in it as well. Yeah, this is
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: the series where Seth Rogan plays a character who becomes
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: the head of a studio and so he's really balancing
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: out how do you how are you playing the part
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: of a producer? What's your actual role as far as
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: getting films made? And he's running into the challenge of
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: that art versus commerce thing which I was talking about before.
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: And that was interesting to me because everything I've seen
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: leading up to this, all the promotional material I've seen
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: for the studio.
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: Like the as Apocalypse or whatever it was.
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it suggested to me that this was just going
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: to be a satirical comedy about the industry, about the
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: film industry, and that was all there was to it,
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: which is fine, Like that would have been fine, But
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: the trailer surprised me because it introduced a lot of heart,
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: which I was not expecting.
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think Seth Rogen's such a great
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: person to play the lead character because he is someone
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: who is known for doing a lot of a lot
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: of like comedy and a lot of stoner comedy and
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: a lot of blue comedy, but he can do other stuff,
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: and you know, I think probably comes from a very
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: real place for a lot of the actors in this
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like he actually in the trailer talks about
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: wanting to to satisfy both motivations, like his own personal
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: motivation to help a true work of art film get made,
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: like for that to be the product of his work
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: while also being a huge box office success, and people
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: in the industry are essentially telling him that's impossible. You
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: can do one or you can do the other. You
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: can either do something that's going to be wildly successful
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: and make a billion dollars at the box office, but
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: it's going to be crap, or it's going to be
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: like popcorn and there's no real substance to it. Or
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: you can really make an artistic piece, but no one's
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: gonna bother to go see it, and it's laying bare
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: this juxtaposition that a lot of the industry seems to
- 1:26:11Speaker 2: work on. That being said, we all know there are
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: films that have managed to be both ye where they've
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: managed to be a success as well as have something
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: artistic to say. It just feels like that's the exception,
- 1:26:24Speaker 2: not the rule.
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and sorry, it's the doll Apocalypse.
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, the Apocalypse the pooping zombies.
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Which you told me not even to watch. And if
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: the show were just that, I would be out. But
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: this new trailer, I'm going to watch this when it
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: comes out on March twenty six. Yeah, I'm very excited
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: about it. Also, Brian Cranston's in it.
- 1:26:49Speaker 2: Yeah, the list of people, Like I imagine the guest
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: star list on this is going to be like just
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: really star studded, because again they're going to be poking.
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: I think everyone in the industry likes referencing the industry occasionally.
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: Like I've talked about this before. If you watch award seasons,
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: if there's a film that has a fairly high profile
- 1:27:17Speaker 2: that's about the film industry, it always does well during
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: award seasons. Same thing with like theater too, right, how
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: many shows can you think of are about show business?
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: So many that it's I guess it's right what you know,
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: But same sort of thing here, but again like also
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: making fun of the whole studio system and the role
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: of producers and how cynical everything gets, Like I would
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: be shocked if there's not like an ongoing thing about
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: figuring out how to make a movie play better in China,
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: for example, because that's such a huge thing in Hollywood, right,
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: is not just making a movie that's going to do
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: well domestically, but because China represents such a potentially huge market,
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: how do you make something that's going to do really
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: well over there, even if it means you're making decisions
- 1:28:12Speaker 2: that hurt the movie domestically.
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: If it's the film and TV version of Mythic Quest,
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: it should be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, I'm not going.
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: You were right about the guest list. I did pop
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: into the IMDb while you were talking, and well, I
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: was also listening. But the guest list is going to
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: be insane like the guest star list.
- 1:28:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this one. This will definitely
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: be a series that I will check out, especially now
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: that I know there's heart to it. Like I was
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: already interested because it looked funny and there's some incredibly
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: funny people attached to it, but knowing that there is
- 1:28:48Speaker 2: at least this core of like idealism and hope that
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: I definitely want to watch it, even if ultimately it
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: just is like watch that hope as it slowly reins the.
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: Way I think. I think the thing that we've learned
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: from this episode of LENC is that the way to
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: get Jonathan and I are interested in a show is
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: to show the humanity in it.
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it turns out that a little humanity goes a
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: long way. Maybe it maybe it means that we're both
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: craving things that have more of humanity on display, like
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: that that that softer side, that sweeter side of humanity.
- 1:29:25Speaker 2: Don't know why that would be. Not gonna lay any
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: commentary here. You can all read between the lines.
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: I hope. I hope more people do, though, because I'd
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: like to get back to.
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: Some of that.
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: We we we were in a real stretch of of
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: super dark and grim for a while.
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kind of are yeah, Like like I I
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: appreciate the artistry that went into Walking Dead, but I
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: could not stay with that because it was just so
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: bleak and hopeless. Same with Game of Thrones, Like it's
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: just I can't, y'all. I need more than just abject
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: misery and a story where the most decent people are
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: the ones who suffer the most. I can't do it anymore.
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, we also can't do this episode anymore
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: because we're out of stories. I mean, we probably could,
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: but we probably shouldn't.
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: Yeah, we got stuff we gotta do, we do h.
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: And also I know you have to edit this, and
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: That's all right?
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: So uh, I guess do I even ask if people
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: want to get in touch with you, do you want
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: to give something? Or do I just tell them to
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: go through social media? And I'll pass it along.
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, there are ways to get in touch
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: with me. Yes, I have no Facebook, Yes I have
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: no Instagram. Yes I'm not on Twitter. Yes I'm recording
- 1:30:49Speaker 2: this on an old tape deck where I've hit record
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: and I'm just holding it up to a speaker. These
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: all of these things are true, But there are still
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: ways to get in touch. For me, the best way
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: is to write in long hand a very thoughtful letter.
- 1:31:07Speaker 2: Address it to me care of large nerd on collider.
- 1:31:11Speaker 2: Be ornate in your handwriting. If you can do calligraphy,
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: that is appreciated, not required, but it will mean that
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: I'll answer it more quickly than if you just scribble
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- 1:31:26Speaker 2: with a wax seal using an emblem representative of your
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: family line, maternal or paternal. I'm not picky, but it
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: does need to actually reflect your family line in some
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: truly meaningful way, So not just an initial of a
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: last name or something. It needs to truly represent who
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: you are as a person. If you put both on there,
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: maternal and paternal, that's going to get you to the
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: front of the line. Once you have done all of that.
- 1:31:55Speaker 2: I'm going to need you to dip this letter in
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: paraffin wax, and once that's done, you will need to
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: set fire to the letter and allow it to burn
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: completely down by itself. Don't extinguish it. If it extinguishes
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: on its own prematurely, that's fine, but otherwise you just
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: have to let it completely burn down. Then collect all
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: the pieces of the letter, whether there's like solid pieces
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: or it's just ash, and put that all into a
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: glass bottle. Now, it can't just be any glass bottle.
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: It has to be cobalt glass, so it as to
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: be that dark blue glass. Put a cork stopper on it.
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: You're going to need to go out into the closest
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: wooded area near you with a piece of twine and
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: that bottle. You're going to find a tree that just
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: stands out from all the other trees. You know, maybe
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: it just looks a little strange. Maybe it's a species
- 1:32:54Speaker 2: of tree that's unlike all the ones around it. You'll
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: know it when you see it. On the lowest brand.
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: I'm going to need you to tie that piece of
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: string around the neck of the bottle and hang it
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: from that limb. And then you're going to sit down
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: at the tree. You're going to say, answer me, answer me,
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: answer me, just like that three times you're going to leave.
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: There will be a windy night that night that will
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: blow against that bottle. When you come back the next day,
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: the bottle will be open, the cork will be gone,
- 1:33:25Speaker 2: the ashes emptied from the bottle, and next to you
- 1:33:28Speaker 2: will be me, and I will say, there's a lot
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