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How Can You Be in Two Places at Once When You're Not Anywhere at All? · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

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  Welcome
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  to
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  Phil
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  and
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  Ted's
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  Sexy
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  Boomer
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  Ted
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  Bonnitt.
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  I'm
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  Phil
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  Proctor.
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  Can
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  you
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  hear
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  me?
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  Loud
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  and
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  clear.
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  By
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  the
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  way,
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  I
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  just
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  finishing
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  my
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  form.
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  I'm
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  filling
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  out
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  here
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  for
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  the
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  Trump
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  administration.
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  get
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  a
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  little
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  piece
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  of
• 0:11
  that
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  1776
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  action.
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  Yeah.
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  This
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  government
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  has
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  been
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  weaponized
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  against
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  us
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  ever
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  since
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  Trump
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  took
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  office,
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  so
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  deserve
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  a
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  payoff.
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  Let's
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  get
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  into
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  a
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  show
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  which
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  is.
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  Going
• 0:21
  to
• 0:21
  be
• 0:21
  all
• 0:21
  about
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  Firesign
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  Theatre.
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  Everything
• 0:24
  you
• 0:24
  ever
• 0:24
  wanted
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  to
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  know
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  about
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  Firesign
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  Theatre
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  and
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  didn't
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  know
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  where
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  to
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  ask.
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  And
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  our
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  guest,
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  Jeremy
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  Brodick,
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  is
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  a
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  professor
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  of
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  literature
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  in
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  English
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  at
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  Cornell
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  University,
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  and
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  he
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  is
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  the
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  author
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  of
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  Fire
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  the
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  Electromagnetic
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  History
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  of
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  Everything
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  is
• 0:38
  Told
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  on
• 0:38
  Nine
• 0:38
  Comedy
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  Albums.
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  It's
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  a
• 0:40
  fascinating
• 0:41
  look
• 0:41
  at
• 0:42
  how
• 0:42
  Firestine
• 0:43
  Theater
• 0:43
  revolutionized
• 0:44
  comedy
• 0:45
  and
• 0:45
  how
• 0:45
  they
• 0:45
  did
• 0:45
  it
• 0:45
  and
• 0:46
  how
• 0:46
  they
• 0:46
  changed
• 0:47
  culture
• 0:47
  and
• 0:47
  added
• 0:48
  to
• 0:48
  the
• 0:48
  lexicon
• 0:48
  in
• 0:49
  the
• 0:49
  process.
• 0:50
  Welcome,
• 0:50
  Jeremy.
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  How
• 0:51
  are
• 0:51
  you?
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  I'm
• 0:52
  well.
• 0:52
  Thanks
• 0:52
  for
• 0:52
  having
• 0:53
  me.
• 0:53
  Oh,
• 0:53
  it's
• 0:53
  great
• 0:54
  to
• 0:54
  have
• 0:54
  you.
• 0:54
  Thank
• 0:54
  you
• 0:54
  for
• 0:55
  doing
• 0:55
  this
• 0:55
  book.
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  It's
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  my
• 0:56
  pleasure.
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  First
• 0:56
  of
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  all,
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  it's
• 0:57
  an
• 0:57
  exhaustive
• 0:57
  look
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  at
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  the
• 0:58
  entire
• 0:58
  history
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  of
• 0:59
  Firesign
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  Theatre.
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  It's
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  such
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  a
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  sophisticated
• 1:02
  level
• 1:02
  of
• 1:02
  content.
• 1:03
  What
• 1:03
  Firesign
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  did,
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  it's
• 1:04
  hard
• 1:04
  to
• 1:04
  reel
• 1:05
  it
• 1:05
  in,
• 1:05
  but
• 1:05
  you
• 1:05
  did
• 1:05
  it.
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  And
• 1:06
  you
• 1:06
  largely
• 1:06
  organized
• 1:07
  it
• 1:07
  chronologically.
• 1:08
  You
• 1:08
  talk
• 1:09
  about
• 1:09
  how
• 1:10
  everything
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  was
• 1:10
  distilled
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  into
• 1:11
  nine
• 1:11
  albums,
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  but
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  each
• 1:12
  album
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  represented
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  a
• 1:14
  different
• 1:14
  look
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  at
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  culture
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  and
• 1:16
  media
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  because
• 1:17
  Fire
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  Sign
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  reflected
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  cinema,
• 1:19
  radio,
• 1:19
  television,
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  artificial
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  intelligence,
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  early
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  computation
• 1:23
  technology,
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  culture,
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  and
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  history.
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  It's
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  amazing
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  the
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  range
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  of
• 1:27
  information
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  Firesign
• 1:28
  lampooned
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  over
• 1:29
  the
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  years
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  and
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  how
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  prescient
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  they
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  were.
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  I
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  always
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  considered
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  ourselves
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  to
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  be
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  co
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  media
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  ands.
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  Okay,
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  co
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  media
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  ands.
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  Because
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  we
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  were
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  using
• 1:39
  the
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  media
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  and
• 1:40
  the
• 1:40
  technology
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  of
• 1:41
  the
• 1:42
  time
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  as
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  it
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  evolved
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  to
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  tell
• 1:44
  our
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  story.
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  And
• 1:46
  I
• 1:46
  guess
• 1:46
  the
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  most
• 1:47
  impressive
• 1:48
  proof
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  that
• 1:48
  we
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  achieved
• 1:49
  our
• 1:49
  goal
• 1:50
  was
• 1:51
  that
• 1:51
  our
• 1:51
  archives
• 1:52
  were
• 1:52
  purchased
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  by
• 1:53
  the
• 1:53
  Library
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  of
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  Congress
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  about
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  five
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  years
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  ago
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  because
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  of
• 1:57
  our
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  effect
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  on
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  the
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  culture
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  of
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  America
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  and
• 2:01
  the
• 2:01
  culture
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  of
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  comedy.
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  And
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  one
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  of
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  our
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  albums,
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  Don't
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  Crush
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  that
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  Dwarf,
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  Hand
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  Me
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  the
• 2:06
  Pliers,
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  is
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  a
• 2:07
  historical
• 2:08
  recording
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  in
• 2:09
  the
• 2:09
  archives
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  as
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  well.
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  So
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  that
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  said
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  a
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  lot
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  to
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  me.
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  Mom's
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  away,
• 2:15
  dad.
• 2:16
  Morning,
• 2:16
  Mom.
• 2:16
  Morning,
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  son.
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  Oh,
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  hot
• 2:18
  dog.
• 2:18
  Road
• 2:18
  cakes
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  again,
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  heavy
• 2:20
  on
• 2:20
  the
• 2:20
  30
• 2:20
  weight.
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  No,
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  don't
• 2:21
  eat
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  with
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  your
• 2:22
  hands,
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  son,.
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  And
• 2:23
  use
• 2:23
  your
• 2:23
  entrenching
• 2:23
  tool.
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  Aw,
• 2:24
  gee,
• 2:24
  dad,
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  I'm
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  just
• 2:25
  trying
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  to
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  save
• 2:25
  time.
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  It
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  isn't
• 2:26
  every
• 2:26
  day
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  a
• 2:27
  guy
• 2:27
  graduates
• 2:27
  from
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  high
• 2:28
  school.
• 2:28
  How
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  many
• 2:29
  times
• 2:29
  have
• 2:29
  I
• 2:29
  heard
• 2:29
  that
• 2:30
  before?
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  Well,
• 2:31
  you
• 2:31
  boys
• 2:31
  fight
• 2:32
  it
• 2:32
  out
• 2:32
  among
• 2:32
  yourselves,
• 2:33
  okay?
• 2:33
  Mother,.
• 2:37
  Look
• 2:37
  at
• 2:37
  the
• 2:37
  time.
• 2:38
  I'd
• 2:38
  like
• 2:38
  to
• 2:39
  dress
• 2:39
  for
• 2:39
  my
• 2:39
  bridge
• 2:39
  clubs,
• 2:40
  but
• 2:40
  gee,
• 2:41
  mom,
• 2:41
  isn't
• 2:41
  that
• 2:41
  bridge
• 2:42
  built
• 2:42
  yet?
• 2:43
  No,
• 2:43
  son,
• 2:45
  and
• 2:46
  it
• 2:46
  won't
• 2:46
  be
• 2:47
  until
• 2:47
  free
• 2:47
  hands
• 2:48
  on
• 2:48
  both
• 2:48
  sides
• 2:48
  of
• 2:49
  the
• 2:49
  Big
• 2:49
  Ditch
• 2:50
  can
• 2:50
  press
• 2:50
  the
• 2:50
  same
• 2:51
  button
• 2:51
  at
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  same
• 2:51
  time.
• 2:52
  Okay,
• 2:53
  Dad,
• 2:53
  I
• 2:54
  give.
• 2:55
  Oh,
• 2:56
  boy.
• 2:56
  Can
• 2:56
  I
• 2:56
  eat
• 2:56
  my
• 2:56
  breakfast
• 2:57
  now?
• 2:57
  Only
• 2:57
  if
• 2:58
  you
• 2:58
  stay
• 2:58
  out
• 2:58
  of
• 2:58
  trouble,
• 2:58
  boy.
• 2:59
  Your
• 2:59
  shenanigans
• 2:59
  could
• 3:00
  cost
• 3:00
  me
• 3:00
  this
• 3:00
  election.
• 3:01
  Oh,
• 3:01
  come
• 3:02
  on,
• 3:02
  dad.
• 3:02
  No
• 3:03
  Irishman
• 3:03
  can
• 3:03
  stop
• 3:03
  you
• 3:04
  from
• 3:04
  getting
• 3:04
  to
• 3:04
  be
• 3:04
  dog
• 3:05
  killer
• 3:05
  this
• 3:05
  time.
• 3:06
  You're
• 3:06
  a
• 3:06
  natural.
• 3:07
  Don't
• 3:07
  wolf
• 3:07
  your
• 3:07
  food.
• 3:09
  Oh.
• 3:09
  Oh,
• 3:09
  there's
• 3:09
  Mudhead.
• 3:11
  Graduation,
• 3:11
  here
• 3:12
  I
• 3:12
  come.
• 3:12
  So
• 3:13
  long,
• 3:13
  dad.
• 3:16
  Oh,
• 3:17
  that
• 3:17
  son
• 3:18
  of
• 3:18
  mine.
• 3:19
  He's
• 3:19
  not
• 3:19
  your
• 3:19
  son.
• 3:20
  Fred.
• 3:21
  Stop
• 3:21
  torturing
• 3:22
  me.
• 3:22
  Ethel.
• 3:22
  Jeremy,
• 3:23
  why
• 3:23
  did
• 3:23
  you
• 3:23
  write
• 3:24
  this
• 3:24
  book
• 3:24
  and
• 3:24
  how
• 3:24
  did
• 3:24
  you
• 3:24
  go
• 3:25
  about
• 3:25
  it?
• 3:26
  Well,
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  had
• 3:28
  wanted
• 3:28
  to
• 3:29
  write.
• 3:29
  I
• 3:30
  wanted
• 3:30
  to
• 3:30
  write
• 3:30
  this
• 3:30
  book
• 3:30
  for
• 3:31
  like,
• 3:31
  30
• 3:31
  years.
• 3:31
  I
• 3:32
  grew
• 3:32
  up
• 3:32
  listening
• 3:32
  to
• 3:33
  Firestine
• 3:33
  Theater.
• 3:33
  I
• 3:34
  had
• 3:34
  an
• 3:34
  uncle
• 3:34
  who
• 3:34
  gave
• 3:34
  me
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  records
• 3:35
  when
• 3:35
  I
• 3:36
  was
• 3:36
  starting,
• 3:36
  when
• 3:36
  I
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  like,
• 3:37
  12.
• 3:38
  Phil,
• 3:38
  I'm
• 3:38
  sure
• 3:39
  you
• 3:39
  don't
• 3:39
  remember,
• 3:39
  but
• 3:39
  I
• 3:40
  did
• 3:40
  meet
• 3:40
  you
• 3:40
  all
• 3:41
  once
• 3:41
  in
• 3:42
  1994
• 3:43
  when
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  were
• 3:43
  rehearsing
• 3:43
  in
• 3:44
  Santa
• 3:44
  Monica.
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  definitely
• 3:45
  didn't
• 3:46
  know
• 3:46
  enough
• 3:46
  then
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  start
• 3:48
  writing,
• 3:49
  but
• 3:49
  I
• 3:50
  had
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  idea
• 3:50
  in
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  back
• 3:51
  of
• 3:51
  my
• 3:51
  head
• 3:51
  for
• 3:51
  a
• 3:52
  long
• 3:52
  time.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  knew
• 3:53
  a
• 3:53
  few
• 3:53
  things
• 3:54
  going
• 3:54
  in.
• 3:54
  Which
• 3:55
  one
• 3:55
  was
• 3:55
  that
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  wanted
• 3:57
  to
• 3:57
  write
• 3:57
  a
• 3:58
  book
• 3:58
  that
• 3:58
  would
• 3:59
  interest
• 3:59
  people
• 4:00
  who
• 4:00
  didn't
• 4:01
  know
• 4:01
  Firesign
• 4:01
  Theatre.
• 4:02
  So
• 4:03
  people
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  my
• 4:04
  generation
• 4:04
  and
• 4:04
  after
• 4:05
  I've
• 4:05
  increasingly
• 4:06
  been
• 4:06
  teaching
• 4:06
  them
• 4:07
  sometimes
• 4:07
  at
• 4:08
  Cornell.
• 4:09
  And
• 4:09
  I'll
• 4:09
  say
• 4:10
  that
• 4:10
  this
• 4:10
  year
• 4:10
  of
• 4:11
  all
• 4:11
  years,
• 4:12
  students
• 4:13
  were.
• 4:14
  Were
• 4:14
  really,
• 4:15
  really
• 4:15
  interested
• 4:15
  in
• 4:16
  it.
• 4:16
  Not
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  digress.
• 4:17
  I
• 4:18
  wanted
• 4:18
  not
• 4:18
  only
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  write
• 4:19
  for
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  people
• 4:20
  who
• 4:20
  knew
• 4:20
  Fire
• 4:20
  Sign
• 4:21
  well,
• 4:21
  and
• 4:21
  I.
• 4:22
  And
• 4:22
  not
• 4:22
  being
• 4:23
  sure
• 4:23
  of
• 4:23
  what
• 4:23
  the
• 4:24
  reception
• 4:24
  would
• 4:24
  be.
• 4:24
  I
• 4:25
  also
• 4:25
  wanted
• 4:25
  to
• 4:26
  write
• 4:26
  for
• 4:26
  people
• 4:27
  who
• 4:27
  maybe
• 4:28
  never
• 4:28
  would
• 4:28
  listen
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  records,
• 4:30
  even
• 4:30
  though
• 4:30
  I
• 4:30
  really
• 4:31
  want.
• 4:31
  Was
• 4:31
  hoping
• 4:32
  that
• 4:32
  they
• 4:32
  would.
• 4:33
  I
• 4:33
  wanted
• 4:33
  to
• 4:33
  work
• 4:34
  both
• 4:34
  internally
• 4:34
  and
• 4:35
  externally.
• 4:35
  So
• 4:35
  they
• 4:35
  have
• 4:36
  an
• 4:36
  amazing
• 4:36
  story.
• 4:37
  And
• 4:37
  it
• 4:37
  extends
• 4:38
  longer
• 4:38
  than
• 4:38
  the
• 4:39
  period
• 4:39
  at
• 4:39
  Columbia,
• 4:40
  but
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  period
• 4:41
  of
• 4:41
  their
• 4:41
  contract
• 4:42
  at
• 4:42
  Columbia
• 4:43
  lasts
• 4:43
  from
• 4:43
  67
• 4:44
  till
• 4:45
  1975.
• 4:46
  And
• 4:46
  that
• 4:46
  in
• 4:46
  and
• 4:47
  of
• 4:47
  itself
• 4:47
  is
• 4:47
  a
• 4:48
  time
• 4:48
  when
• 4:48
  recording
• 4:49
  technology
• 4:49
  and
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  record
• 4:50
  industry
• 4:50
  is
• 4:51
  changing
• 4:51
  hugely.
• 4:52
  So
• 4:52
  I
• 4:53
  realized
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  could
• 4:54
  tell
• 4:54
  that
• 4:55
  story
• 4:55
  as
• 4:55
  along
• 4:56
  with
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  Fire
• 4:57
  Sign
• 4:57
  story,
• 4:57
  and
• 4:58
  to
• 4:58
  have
• 4:58
  a
• 4:58
  kind
• 4:58
  of,
• 4:58
  as
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  pointed
• 4:59
  out,
• 4:59
  like
• 4:59
  a
• 5:00
  sort
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  historical
• 5:01
  thrust,
• 5:02
  but
• 5:02
  as
• 5:02
  Phil
• 5:02
  pointed
• 5:03
  out,
• 5:03
  one
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  one
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  things
• 5:05
  that's
• 5:05
  just
• 5:06
  so
• 5:06
  amazing
• 5:07
  about
• 5:07
  Fire
• 5:07
  Signs
• 5:08
  records
• 5:08
  is
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  they
• 5:10
  are
• 5:10
  really
• 5:10
  interested
• 5:11
  in
• 5:11
  media
• 5:11
  technologies,
• 5:12
  not
• 5:12
  only
• 5:13
  using
• 5:13
  them
• 5:14
  as
• 5:14
  they
• 5:14
  did
• 5:14
  in
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  studio.
• 5:15
  And
• 5:15
  I'm
• 5:15
  sure
• 5:15
  Phil
• 5:16
  will
• 5:17
  be
• 5:17
  able
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  fill
• 5:17
  in
• 5:18
  more
• 5:18
  of
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  gaps.
• 5:19
  But
• 5:19
  one
• 5:19
  of
• 5:19
  the
• 5:20
  things
• 5:20
  that,
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  it's
• 5:21
  clear
• 5:22
  that
• 5:22
  they're
• 5:22
  doing
• 5:22
  from
• 5:22
  very
• 5:23
  early
• 5:23
  on
• 5:24
  is
• 5:24
  relearning
• 5:25
  old
• 5:26
  radio
• 5:27
  techniques
• 5:27
  because
• 5:27
  the
• 5:28
  studio
• 5:28
  where
• 5:28
  they're
• 5:29
  recording
• 5:29
  first
• 5:30
  at
• 5:30
  Sunset
• 5:31
  and
• 5:31
  Gower
• 5:32
  was
• 5:32
  built
• 5:32
  in
• 5:32
  1937
• 5:33
  as
• 5:33
  sort
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  the,
• 5:34
  the,
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  Louvre
• 5:35
  of
• 5:36
  radio
• 5:36
  broadcasting
• 5:37
  and
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  gear
• 5:38
  was
• 5:38
  still
• 5:39
  there.
• 5:40
  So
• 5:40
  on
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  one
• 5:41
  hand
• 5:41
  they're
• 5:41
  really
• 5:42
  interested
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  thinking
• 5:43
  historically,
• 5:43
  but
• 5:43
  on
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  other
• 5:44
  hand,
• 5:44
  as
• 5:44
  you
• 5:45
  said
• 5:45
  and
• 5:45
  as
• 5:45
  Phil
• 5:46
  has
• 5:46
  said
• 5:46
  many
• 5:46
  times,
• 5:47
  there's
• 5:48
  the
• 5:49
  records
• 5:49
  uncannily
• 5:50
  anticipate
• 5:51
  some
• 5:51
  of
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  things
• 5:52
  that,
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  were.
• 5:53
  That
• 5:53
  we're
• 5:54
  living
• 5:54
  with
• 5:54
  today.
• 5:54
  And
• 5:55
  so
• 5:55
  that,
• 5:55
  and
• 5:56
  so
• 5:56
  there's
• 5:56
  a
• 5:56
  sort
• 5:56
  of
• 5:56
  a,
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  sci
• 5:58
  fi
• 5:58
  dimension
• 5:58
  of
• 5:59
  their
• 5:59
  work.
• 5:59
  And
• 5:59
  I.
• 5:59
  The
• 6:00
  reason
• 6:00
  that
• 6:00
  it's
• 6:00
  so
• 6:01
  uncanny
• 6:01
  is
• 6:01
  that
• 6:01
  they
• 6:01
  have
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  profound
• 6:02
  sense
• 6:03
  of,
• 6:03
  of
• 6:03
  media's
• 6:04
  history.
• 6:07
  Los
• 6:07
  Angeles.
• 6:08
  He
• 6:08
  walks
• 6:09
  again
• 6:09
  by
• 6:10
  night.
• 6:13
  Out
• 6:13
  of.
• 6:13
  The
• 6:14
  fog,
• 6:14
  into
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  smog.
• 6:16
  Relentlessly,
• 6:18
  ruthlessly.
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  wonder
• 6:19
  where
• 6:19
  Ruth
• 6:20
  is.
• 6:20
  Doggedly
• 6:21
  toward
• 6:21
  his
• 6:22
  weekly
• 6:22
  meeting
• 6:23
  with
• 6:23
  the
• 6:24
  unknown
• 6:25
  at
• 6:26
  4th
• 6:26
  and
• 6:26
  Drucker.
• 6:26
  He
• 6:27
  turns
• 6:27
  left
• 6:27
  at
• 6:28
  Drucker
• 6:28
  and
• 6:28
  4th,
• 6:29
  he
• 6:29
  turns
• 6:29
  right.
• 6:30
  He
• 6:30
  crosses
• 6:30
  MacArthur
• 6:31
  park
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  walks
• 6:31
  into
• 6:31
  a
• 6:32
  great
• 6:32
  sandstone
• 6:33
  building.
• 6:33
  Oh,
• 6:34
  my
• 6:34
  nose.
• 6:35
  Groping
• 6:36
  for
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  door,
• 6:36
  he
• 6:37
  steps
• 6:37
  inside,
• 6:39
  climbs
• 6:39
  the
• 6:40
  13
• 6:40
  steps
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  his
• 6:41
  office.
• 6:43
  He
• 6:43
  walks
• 6:43
  in.
• 6:44
  He's
• 6:45
  ready
• 6:45
  for
• 6:45
  mystery.
• 6:46
  He's
• 6:46
  ready
• 6:46
  for
• 6:47
  excitement.
• 6:47
  He's
• 6:48
  ready
• 6:48
  for
• 6:48
  anything.
• 6:49
  He's
• 6:51
  Nick
• 6:51
  Danger,
• 6:52
  Third
• 6:52
  Eye.
• 6:52
  I
• 6:53
  want
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  order
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  pizza
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  go
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  no
• 6:55
  anchovies.
• 6:55
  No
• 6:55
  anchovies.
• 6:56
  You've
• 6:56
  got
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  wrong
• 6:57
  man.
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  spell
• 6:58
  my
• 6:58
  name
• 6:58
  Danger.
• 6:59
  What.
• 7:02
  The
• 7:02
  makers
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  fantastic
• 7:04
  cigarettes,
• 7:04
  long
• 7:05
  in
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  leaf
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  short
• 7:06
  in
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  can
• 7:06
  bring
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  another
• 7:07
  true
• 7:07
  story
• 7:07
  from
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  tattered
• 7:08
  case
• 7:08
  book
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  Nick
• 7:09
  Danger,
• 7:09
  Third
• 7:10
  Eye.
• 7:10
  Let's
• 7:10
  join
• 7:11
  him
• 7:11
  now
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  adventure
• 7:12
  we
• 7:12
  call
• 7:13
  Cut
• 7:13
  him
• 7:13
  Off
• 7:13
  at
• 7:13
  the
• 7:14
  past.
• 7:16
  So
• 7:16
  Firesign
• 7:17
  was
• 7:17
  really
• 7:17
  aware
• 7:17
  that
• 7:18
  Columbia
• 7:18
  Square
• 7:18
  had
• 7:19
  been
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  site
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  all
• 7:20
  these
• 7:21
  early
• 7:21
  radio
• 7:21
  broadcasts,
• 7:22
  including
• 7:23
  sort
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  anti
• 7:24
  fascist
• 7:24
  morale
• 7:25
  broadcasts
• 7:25
  from
• 7:26
  World
• 7:26
  War
• 7:26
  II.
• 7:27
  But
• 7:27
  they
• 7:27
  were
• 7:27
  also
• 7:28
  aware
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  they
• 7:28
  were
• 7:28
  doing
• 7:29
  it
• 7:29
  in
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  age
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  Vietnam.
• 7:30
  And
• 7:30
  so
• 7:30
  I
• 7:30
  think
• 7:30
  they
• 7:31
  thought
• 7:31
  a
• 7:31
  lot
• 7:31
  about
• 7:32
  fighting
• 7:33
  fascism
• 7:33
  in
• 7:34
  different
• 7:34
  decades
• 7:35
  and
• 7:36
  about
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  meaning
• 7:36
  of
• 7:36
  propaganda.
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  so
• 7:38
  each
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  their
• 7:38
  records
• 7:39
  really
• 7:39
  has
• 7:39
  that
• 7:39
  kind
• 7:40
  of
• 7:40
  resonance.
• 7:40
  If
• 7:41
  you
• 7:41
  had
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  explain
• 7:41
  to
• 7:42
  people
• 7:42
  who
• 7:42
  may
• 7:42
  be
• 7:42
  listening,
• 7:43
  who
• 7:43
  are
• 7:43
  not
• 7:43
  familiar
• 7:43
  with
• 7:44
  Firesign
• 7:44
  Theatre,
• 7:45
  how
• 7:45
  would
• 7:45
  you
• 7:45
  describe
• 7:46
  what
• 7:47
  Fireside
• 7:47
  Theater
• 7:48
  was
• 7:48
  and
• 7:49
  represented?
• 7:50
  Who
• 7:50
  am
• 7:50
  I
• 7:50
  anyway?
• 7:51
  Okay,
• 7:52
  Phil,
• 7:52
  tell
• 7:52
  me
• 7:52
  what
• 7:52
  you
• 7:52
  think
• 7:53
  about
• 7:53
  this.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  guess
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  would
• 7:54
  say
• 7:54
  that
• 7:55
  it's
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  four
• 7:56
  man
• 7:57
  theatrical
• 7:57
  group
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  whose
• 7:58
  work
• 7:58
  is
• 7:59
  based
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  improvisation.
• 8:00
  So
• 8:01
  they
• 8:01
  begin
• 8:01
  on,
• 8:01
  they
• 8:02
  begin
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  radio
• 8:02
  riffing,
• 8:03
  but
• 8:03
  they're
• 8:04
  also
• 8:04
  really
• 8:05
  aware
• 8:05
  that
• 8:05
  they
• 8:05
  have
• 8:06
  really
• 8:07
  astonishing
• 8:08
  sensitivity
• 8:09
  to
• 8:10
  language,
• 8:11
  like
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  way
• 8:13
  language
• 8:14
  means
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  way
• 8:14
  language
• 8:15
  sounds.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  so
• 8:16
  when
• 8:17
  they
• 8:17
  happened
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  get
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  recording
• 8:19
  contract
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  late
• 8:20
  60s
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  they
• 8:22
  realized
• 8:22
  that
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  difference
• 8:23
  between
• 8:23
  radio
• 8:23
  and
• 8:24
  recording
• 8:25
  is
• 8:25
  that
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  can
• 8:27
  make
• 8:27
  things
• 8:27
  really
• 8:27
  dense
• 8:28
  because
• 8:28
  people
• 8:28
  will
• 8:29
  be
• 8:29
  obliged
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  listen
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  it
• 8:30
  again
• 8:30
  and
• 8:31
  again.
• 8:31
  And
• 8:31
  so
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  think
• 8:31
  that
• 8:32
  it's
• 8:32
  that
• 8:32
  point
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  the
• 8:33
  work
• 8:33
  really
• 8:34
  sounds
• 8:34
  like
• 8:34
  writing.
• 8:35
  And
• 8:35
  there
• 8:35
  was
• 8:36
  recently
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  review
• 8:36
  of
• 8:37
  my
• 8:37
  book
• 8:37
  where
• 8:37
  someone
• 8:37
  said,
• 8:38
  fortunately,
• 8:38
  Braddock
• 8:39
  doesn't
• 8:39
  push
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  Firesign
• 8:40
  Theatre
• 8:41
  as
• 8:41
  very
• 8:41
  literary.
• 8:42
  But
• 8:42
  actually,
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  do
• 8:42
  think
• 8:43
  Firesign
• 8:43
  Theatre
• 8:44
  is
• 8:44
  super
• 8:44
  literary.
• 8:45
  You
• 8:45
  quoted
• 8:45
  some
• 8:45
  people
• 8:45
  in
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  book
• 8:46
  that
• 8:46
  said
• 8:47
  it
• 8:47
  took
• 8:47
  about
• 8:47
  five
• 8:47
  listens
• 8:48
  before
• 8:48
  they
• 8:48
  started
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  truly
• 8:49
  understand
• 8:50
  it.
• 8:50
  It
• 8:51
  is
• 8:51
  like
• 8:51
  literature
• 8:52
  or
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  very
• 8:52
  dense
• 8:53
  movie
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  can
• 8:53
  see
• 8:53
  over
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  over
• 8:54
  again.
• 8:55
  It
• 8:55
  got
• 8:55
  better
• 8:55
  and
• 8:56
  better.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  this
• 8:56
  was
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  era
• 8:57
  when
• 8:58
  comedy
• 8:58
  albums
• 8:59
  ruled,
• 9:00
  which
• 9:00
  was
• 9:01
  unique
• 9:01
  in
• 9:01
  historyofthethe record.Yeah,theyreallytookadvantageofthat.
• 9:06
  Yeah.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  so
• 9:07
  I
• 9:08
  would
• 9:08
  say
• 9:08
  that's
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  nice
• 9:09
  tinge.
• 9:09
  Because
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  one
• 9:10
  thing
• 9:10
  that
• 9:11
  distinguishes
• 9:12
  Firesign
• 9:13
  from
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  lot
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  the
• 9:14
  comedy
• 9:14
  albums
• 9:14
  from
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  early
• 9:15
  60s,
• 9:15
  so
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  have
• 9:16
  all
• 9:16
  these
• 9:17
  Bill
• 9:17
  Cosby
• 9:17
  records
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  Nichols
• 9:18
  and
• 9:19
  May
• 9:19
  and
• 9:19
  the
• 9:20
  Stan
• 9:20
  Freeberg
• 9:20
  record
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  so
• 9:21
  on.
• 9:21
  There's
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  review
• 9:22
  that
• 9:23
  appears,
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  think,
• 9:23
  in
• 9:24
  Village
• 9:24
  Voice
• 9:25
  by
• 9:25
  Robert
• 9:26
  Crisco,
• 9:27
  and
• 9:27
  he's
• 9:27
  reviewing
• 9:28
  a
• 9:28
  bunch
• 9:28
  of
• 9:29
  comedy
• 9:29
  records
• 9:30
  together.
• 9:30
  And
• 9:30
  he
• 9:30
  says
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  thing
• 9:30
  about
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  Bill
• 9:31
  Cosby
• 9:31
  record
• 9:32
  is
• 9:32
  that
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  listen
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  it
• 9:33
  once
• 9:33
  and
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  laugh,
• 9:33
  but
• 9:33
  do
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  really
• 9:34
  listen
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  it
• 9:34
  again?
• 9:35
  And
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  think
• 9:36
  that
• 9:36
  his
• 9:36
  point
• 9:37
  was
• 9:37
  that
• 9:38
  there
• 9:38
  was
• 9:38
  something
• 9:38
  being
• 9:39
  left
• 9:39
  on
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  table
• 9:40
  by
• 9:40
  comedy
• 9:41
  records
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  early
• 9:41
  60s.
• 9:42
  C7
• 9:43
  is
• 9:43
  also
• 9:43
  the
• 9:43
  year
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  Sergeant
• 9:44
  Pepper,
• 9:45
  which
• 9:45
  is
• 9:45
  this
• 9:45
  Beatles
• 9:46
  record
• 9:46
  where
• 9:46
  they
• 9:46
  really
• 9:48
  not
• 9:48
  just
• 9:48
  commit
• 9:48
  to
• 9:49
  the.
• 9:49
  To
• 9:49
  using
• 9:49
  overdubs,
• 9:50
  but
• 9:50
  overdubs
• 9:51
  that.
• 9:52
  That
• 9:52
  make
• 9:52
  no
• 9:53
  pretension
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  actually
• 9:54
  sounding
• 9:54
  like
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  group
• 9:54
  playing
• 9:55
  live.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  think
• 9:56
  that
• 9:56
  Firesign
• 9:57
  is.
• 9:57
  Is
• 9:59
  with
• 9:59
  radio
• 9:59
  drama
• 9:59
  on
• 10:00
  the
• 10:00
  one
• 10:00
  hand
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  with
• 10:00
  comedy
• 10:01
  on
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  other
• 10:01
  hand.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  it's
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  moment
• 10:03
  when.
• 10:04
  When
• 10:04
  pop
• 10:04
  music
• 10:05
  is
• 10:05
  being.
• 10:06
  Is
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  7
• 10:07
  inch
• 10:07
  single
• 10:08
  is
• 10:08
  being
• 10:08
  displaced
• 10:08
  by
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  long
• 10:09
  playing
• 10:09
  record
• 10:09
  album.
• 10:10
  So
• 10:10
  there's
• 10:10
  an
• 10:10
  audience
• 10:11
  that's
• 10:11
  used
• 10:11
  to
• 10:12
  listening
• 10:12
  to
• 10:13
  albums
• 10:14
  over
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  over
• 10:14
  again.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  I
• 10:16
  think
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  that
• 10:16
  would
• 10:16
  be
• 10:16
  the
• 10:16
  other
• 10:17
  piece
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  would
• 10:17
  pitch
• 10:18
  is
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  think
• 10:18
  that
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  lot
• 10:19
  of
• 10:20
  Firesign's
• 10:21
  audience
• 10:21
  was
• 10:22
  listening
• 10:22
  to
• 10:22
  them
• 10:23
  alongside
• 10:23
  the
• 10:24
  music
• 10:24
  of
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  day
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  kind
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  understood
• 10:26
  it
• 10:26
  as
• 10:26
  music
• 10:26
  in
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  way.
• 10:27
  And
• 10:27
  when
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  was
• 10:28
  doing
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  research
• 10:29
  of
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  reviews
• 10:30
  from
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  period,
• 10:31
  by
• 10:31
  far
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  most
• 10:31
  interesting
• 10:32
  criticism
• 10:33
  was
• 10:33
  by
• 10:33
  record
• 10:33
  reviewers.
• 10:34
  A
• 10:35
  couple
• 10:35
  of
• 10:35
  things.
• 10:36
  Number
• 10:36
  One,
• 10:36
  we
• 10:37
  invented
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  Long
• 10:38
  form
• 10:39
  comedy
• 10:40
  album.
• 10:41
  The
• 10:41
  thing
• 10:42
  about
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  Beatles
• 10:42
  was
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  they
• 10:43
  told
• 10:43
  a
• 10:43
  story
• 10:44
  with
• 10:45
  Sergeant
• 10:45
  Pepper.
• 10:46
  It
• 10:46
  created
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  world,
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  fire
• 10:49
  sign
• 10:49
  wanted
• 10:49
  to
• 10:49
  do
• 10:50
  the
• 10:50
  same
• 10:50
  thing.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  you
• 10:52
  were
• 10:52
  talking
• 10:52
  about
• 10:53
  our
• 10:53
  relationship
• 10:54
  to
• 10:54
  literature.
• 10:56
  Well,
• 10:56
  we
• 10:56
  were
• 10:57
  all
• 10:58
  writers.
• 10:59
  Phil
• 10:59
  Austin,
• 11:00
  David
• 11:00
  Osman,
• 11:00
  Peter
• 11:01
  Bergman
• 11:01
  and
• 11:01
  myself.
• 11:02
  We
• 11:02
  all
• 11:03
  could
• 11:03
  write.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:05
  what
• 11:05
  we
• 11:05
  would
• 11:05
  do
• 11:05
  in
• 11:05
  our
• 11:06
  improvised
• 11:07
  radio
• 11:07
  gigs
• 11:08
  is
• 11:09
  that
• 11:09
  we
• 11:09
  would
• 11:09
  often
• 11:09
  bring
• 11:10
  in
• 11:10
  individual
• 11:11
  material
• 11:12
  that
• 11:12
  we
• 11:12
  had
• 11:13
  written
• 11:14
  that
• 11:14
  sometimes
• 11:15
  was
• 11:15
  written
• 11:15
  for
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  entire
• 11:16
  group,
• 11:17
  and
• 11:18
  just
• 11:18
  do
• 11:18
  them
• 11:19
  live
• 11:19
  on
• 11:19
  the
• 11:19
  air
• 11:20
  without
• 11:20
  any
• 11:21
  rehearsal
• 11:21
  or
• 11:21
  anything.
• 11:22
  When
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  would
• 11:22
  write
• 11:22
  it,
• 11:22
  would
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  print
• 11:23
  four
• 11:23
  copies
• 11:23
  and
• 11:24
  distribute
• 11:24
  or
• 11:24
  would.
• 11:25
  How
• 11:25
  did
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  work?
• 11:25
  Yeah,
• 11:26
  okay.
• 11:26
  Yeah.
• 11:27
  Those
• 11:27
  were
• 11:27
  the
• 11:28
  days,
• 11:28
  ladies
• 11:28
  and
• 11:29
  gentlemen,
• 11:29
  of
• 11:30
  Carbon
• 11:30
  copies.
• 11:31
  Yeah,
• 11:32
  David
• 11:32
  Osman
• 11:33
  was
• 11:33
  our
• 11:33
  Woody
• 11:34
  Allen.
• 11:34
  People
• 11:35
  know
• 11:35
  what
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  reference
• 11:36
  is
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  regards
• 11:36
  to
• 11:37
  your
• 11:37
  show
• 11:37
  of
• 11:37
  shows.
• 11:38
  He
• 11:38
  was
• 11:38
  the
• 11:39
  one
• 11:39
  who
• 11:39
  typed.
• 11:40
  He
• 11:40
  was
• 11:40
  our
• 11:40
  scribe,
• 11:41
  and
• 11:42
  he
• 11:42
  would
• 11:42
  type
• 11:42
  down
• 11:42
  whatever
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  was
• 11:43
  we
• 11:44
  finally
• 11:44
  agreed
• 11:45
  would
• 11:45
  be
• 11:45
  the
• 11:46
  next
• 11:46
  line
• 11:47
  or
• 11:47
  so.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:48
  at
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  end
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  day,
• 11:49
  we'd
• 11:50
  all
• 11:50
  have
• 11:50
  carbon
• 11:50
  copies
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  what
• 11:51
  we'd
• 11:51
  written
• 11:52
  so
• 11:52
  far.
• 11:52
  And
• 11:53
  then
• 11:53
  we
• 11:53
  could,
• 11:53
  you
• 11:53
  know,
• 11:54
  come
• 11:54
  back
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  next
• 11:55
  day
• 11:55
  with
• 11:55
  suggestions.
• 11:57
  What
• 11:57
  was
• 11:57
  really
• 11:57
  interesting
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  me
• 11:58
  was
• 11:59
  that
• 11:59
  after
• 11:59
  our
• 12:00
  first
• 12:00
  album,
• 12:00
  Waiting
• 12:01
  for
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  Electrician
• 12:01
  or
• 12:02
  someone
• 12:02
  like
• 12:02
  him
• 12:03
  came
• 12:03
  out,
• 12:04
  nobody
• 12:04
  really
• 12:04
  knew
• 12:05
  what
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  make
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  us.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  suits
• 12:06
  at
• 12:07
  Columbia
• 12:07
  were
• 12:07
  ready
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  drop
• 12:08
  us,
• 12:09
  and
• 12:09
  one
• 12:10
  of
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  people
• 12:11
  there
• 12:12
  decided,
• 12:13
  who
• 12:13
  was
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  head
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  spoken
• 12:15
  arts
• 12:15
  division,
• 12:16
  said,
• 12:17
  no,
• 12:17
  these
• 12:18
  guys
• 12:18
  are
• 12:18
  geniuses.
• 12:19
  They're
• 12:19
  doing
• 12:19
  something
• 12:20
  extraordinary
• 12:21
  and
• 12:21
  groundbreaking.
• 12:22
  I'm
• 12:23
  going
• 12:23
  to
• 12:23
  sign
• 12:23
  them
• 12:23
  to
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  spoken
• 12:24
  arts
• 12:24
  contract
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  keep
• 12:26
  them
• 12:26
  on
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  label.
• 12:27
  Now,
• 12:27
  what
• 12:27
  that
• 12:28
  did
• 12:28
  for
• 12:28
  us
• 12:29
  was
• 12:29
  it
• 12:30
  gave
• 12:30
  us
• 12:31
  free
• 12:32
  studio
• 12:32
  time
• 12:33
  whenever
• 12:34
  we
• 12:34
  could
• 12:34
  get
• 12:34
  into
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  studio.
• 12:35
  Right.
• 12:36
  Well,
• 12:36
  we
• 12:37
  had
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  reduced
• 12:37
  royalty
• 12:38
  for
• 12:38
  that,
• 12:39
  but
• 12:40
  we
• 12:40
  had
• 12:41
  free
• 12:41
  studio
• 12:42
  time
• 12:42
  so
• 12:42
  we
• 12:42
  could
• 12:43
  write,
• 12:43
  go
• 12:44
  into
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  studio,
• 12:45
  lay
• 12:45
  it
• 12:46
  down,
• 12:46
  massage
• 12:47
  it,
• 12:48
  bring
• 12:48
  it
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  life,
• 12:49
  go
• 12:49
  back
• 12:49
  to
• 12:49
  the
• 12:50
  writing
• 12:50
  room,
• 12:51
  write
• 12:51
  some
• 12:52
  more.
• 12:52
  And
• 12:52
  we
• 12:53
  could
• 12:53
  build
• 12:53
  our
• 12:53
  albums
• 12:54
  in
• 12:55
  an
• 12:55
  actual
• 12:56
  interaction
• 12:57
  with
• 12:57
  the
• 12:58
  technology
• 12:59
  of
• 12:59
  the
• 13:00
  time.
• 13:00
  That
• 13:01
  was
• 13:01
  one
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  things
• 13:01
  that
• 13:02
  encouraged
• 13:03
  us
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  make
• 13:04
  our
• 13:04
  albums
• 13:04
  complex
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  layered.
• 13:06
  But
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  other
• 13:06
  thing
• 13:06
  about
• 13:07
  it
• 13:07
  was
• 13:08
  we
• 13:08
  were
• 13:08
  uncensored.
• 13:10
  We
• 13:10
  weren't
• 13:10
  doing
• 13:10
  this
• 13:11
  for
• 13:11
  radio.
• 13:12
  We
• 13:12
  were
• 13:12
  doing
• 13:13
  this
• 13:13
  for
• 13:13
  home
• 13:14
  listening,
• 13:15
  which
• 13:15
  is
• 13:15
  why
• 13:16
  we
• 13:16
  use,
• 13:17
  you
• 13:17
  know,
• 13:17
  some
• 13:18
  colorful
• 13:18
  language
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  our
• 13:20
  albums.
• 13:39
  Thank
• 13:39
  you,
• 13:40
  fellow
• 13:40
  kids.
• 13:43
  Quiet
• 13:45
  in
• 13:45
  addressing
• 13:46
  for
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  assembly
• 13:47
  this
• 13:47
  morning.
• 13:49
  Thank
• 13:49
  you.
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  am
• 13:52
  recalling
• 13:52
  the
• 13:53
  words
• 13:53
  of
• 13:53
  the
• 13:53
  Foundry,
• 13:54
  founder
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  Morse
• 13:56
  Science
• 13:57
  High
• 13:57
  School,
• 13:58
  Yucaipa
• 13:59
  Heap,
• 14:01
  who
• 14:01
  pressed
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  first
• 14:02
  bricks
• 14:03
  with
• 14:04
  his
• 14:04
  own
• 14:04
  hands.
• 14:06
  Knowledge
• 14:07
  for
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  pup,
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  people,
• 14:09
  he
• 14:09
  said,
• 14:11
  give
• 14:11
  them
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  light
• 14:12
  and
• 14:13
  they'll
• 14:13
  follow
• 14:13
  it
• 14:14
  anywhere.
• 14:17
  We
• 14:17
  think
• 14:18
  that
• 14:18
  is
• 14:18
  a
• 14:18
  fair
• 14:19
  And
• 14:20
  a
• 14:20
  wise
• 14:20
  guy
• 14:21
  for
• 14:21
  rule
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  be
• 14:22
  guided
• 14:23
  by.
• 14:25
  And
• 14:25
  we're
• 14:25
  not
• 14:26
  afraid
• 14:26
  of
• 14:26
  it,
• 14:26
  are
• 14:27
  we?
• 14:29
  You
• 14:29
  bet.
• 14:31
  Rah,
• 14:32
  rah,
• 14:32
  rah.
• 14:33
  That's
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  spirits
• 14:34
  we
• 14:34
  have
• 14:35
  here.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  way
• 14:37
  I
• 14:38
  used
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  think
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  them
• 14:38
  was
• 14:39
  these
• 14:39
  were
• 14:39
  like
• 14:40
  disks,
• 14:40
  like
• 14:41
  flying
• 14:41
  saucers,
• 14:42
  flying
• 14:43
  discs.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:43
  we
• 14:44
  sent
• 14:44
  them
• 14:44
  out
• 14:45
  into
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  universe.
• 14:46
  And
• 14:46
  if
• 14:47
  somebody
• 14:47
  spotted
• 14:48
  it,
• 14:48
  it
• 14:48
  was
• 14:49
  no
• 14:49
  longer
• 14:49
  a
• 14:49
  ufo,
• 14:50
  it
• 14:50
  was
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  fo.
• 14:52
  And
• 14:53
  slowly
• 14:53
  but
• 14:53
  surely
• 14:54
  people
• 14:54
  discovered
• 14:55
  this
• 14:55
  new
• 14:56
  art
• 14:56
  form.
• 14:57
  And
• 14:57
  they
• 14:58
  found
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  they
• 14:58
  could
• 14:59
  share
• 14:59
  it
• 14:59
  with
• 15:00
  their
• 15:00
  friends.
• 15:01
  At
• 15:02
  which
• 15:02
  time
• 15:02
  they'd
• 15:02
  probably
• 15:03
  hear
• 15:04
  even
• 15:04
  more
• 15:04
  of
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  jokes.
• 15:06
  Because
• 15:06
  somebody
• 15:06
  in
• 15:06
  the
• 15:07
  room
• 15:07
  would
• 15:07
  get
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  joke
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  somebody
• 15:09
  else
• 15:09
  had
• 15:09
  missed.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  it
• 15:11
  became
• 15:11
  a
• 15:11
  communal
• 15:12
  experience.
• 15:13
  And
• 15:13
  then
• 15:13
  with
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  advent
• 15:14
  of
• 15:14
  FM
• 15:15
  radio,
• 15:16
  suddenly
• 15:16
  they
• 15:16
  were
• 15:17
  playing
• 15:17
  us
• 15:18
  on
• 15:18
  college
• 15:18
  campuses.
• 15:20
  In
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  radio
• 15:21
  stations
• 15:22
  of
• 15:22
  closed
• 15:23
  circuit
• 15:23
  college
• 15:23
  campuses.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:25
  we
• 15:25
  acquired
• 15:26
  this
• 15:26
  incredible
• 15:27
  intelligent
• 15:29
  audience.
• 15:30
  Firesign's
• 15:30
  been
• 15:30
  heralded
• 15:31
  as
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  spoken
• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:32
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• 15:33
  Marx
• 15:33
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• 15:34
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• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  space
• 15:34
  age.
• 15:35
  Interestingly,
• 15:36
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• 15:36
  of
• 15:36
  this
• 15:37
  happened
• 15:37
  as
• 15:37
  a
• 15:38
  result
• 15:38
  of
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  particular
• 15:38
  radio
• 15:39
  station
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  we
• 15:39
  happen
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  be
• 15:40
  broadcasting
• 15:40
  on
• 15:41
  today.
• 15:41
  Yeah,
• 15:41
  let's
• 15:42
  talk
• 15:42
  about
• 15:42
  it.
• 15:42
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• 15:44
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• 15:44
  beloved
• 15:44
  KPFK
• 15:45
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• 15:46
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• 15:47
  in
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
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• 15:47
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• 15:48
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• 15:48
  Sign
• 15:48
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• 15:49
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• 15:49
  Theater,
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  way,
• 15:50
  as
• 15:50
  you
• 15:50
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• 15:50
  in
• 15:51
  your
• 15:51
  book,
• 15:51
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• 15:51
  was
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  product
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  emergence
• 15:53
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• 15:53
  FM
• 15:54
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• 15:54
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• 15:54
  Nixon's
• 15:55
  fcc,
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  non
• 15:56
  duplication
• 15:57
  policy.
• 15:58
  Because
• 15:58
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• 15:58
  lot
• 15:58
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• 15:58
  people
• 15:58
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• 15:59
  simulcasting
• 15:59
  with
• 16:00
  am,
• 16:00
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• 16:00
  was
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  predominant
• 16:01
  medium
• 16:01
  at
• 16:01
  the
• 16:02
  time.
• 16:02
  And
• 16:02
  the
• 16:03
  FM
• 16:03
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• 16:04
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• 16:04
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• 16:05
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• 16:05
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• 16:05
  money
• 16:05
  losing
• 16:06
  experiment.
• 16:07
  And
• 16:07
  that's
• 16:07
  why
• 16:07
  FM
• 16:08
  was
• 16:09
  so
• 16:09
  creative
• 16:09
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• 16:09
  the
• 16:10
  70s
• 16:10
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• 16:10
  Freeform
• 16:11
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• 16:11
  all
• 16:11
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• 16:12
  It's
• 16:12
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• 16:12
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• 16:12
  accountants
• 16:13
  realized
• 16:13
  people
• 16:13
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• 16:13
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• 16:14
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• 16:14
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• 16:14
  fm.
• 16:15
  That's
• 16:15
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• 16:15
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• 16:16
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• 16:16
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• 16:17
  But
• 16:17
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• 16:17
  that
• 16:18
  raw
• 16:18
  period
• 16:18
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• 16:19
  time
• 16:20
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• 16:20
  FM
• 16:20
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• 16:21
  before
• 16:21
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• 16:21
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• 16:22
  commercialized
• 16:22
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• 16:22
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• 16:23
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• 16:24
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• 16:24
  went.
• 16:25
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• 16:25
  Firesign
• 16:26
  really
• 16:26
  slid
• 16:26
  into
• 16:27
  that
• 16:27
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• 16:28
  Yeah,
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  think
• 16:28
  that's
• 16:28
  right.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  actually
• 16:29
  I'd
• 16:29
  be
• 16:29
  interested
• 16:30
  to
• 16:30
  know
• 16:30
  what
• 16:30
  you
• 16:31
  think
• 16:31
  of
• 16:31
  this,
• 16:32
  Phil.
• 16:32
  Is
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  it?
• 16:33
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• 16:33
  mean,
• 16:33
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• 16:33
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• 16:33
  like
• 16:33
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• 16:33
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• 16:34
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• 16:34
  place
• 16:34
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• 16:34
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• 16:35
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• 16:35
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• 16:35
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• 16:35
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• 16:36
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• 16:36
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• 16:36
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• 16:36
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• 16:37
  Because
• 16:38
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• 16:38
  What
• 16:39
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• 16:39
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• 16:39
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• 16:39
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• 16:40
  sort
• 16:40
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• 16:40
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• 16:40
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• 16:41
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• 16:41
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• 16:42
  really
• 16:42
  begins
• 16:42
  on
• 16:43
  WBAI
• 16:44
  with
• 16:44
  Bob
• 16:44
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• 16:45
  showandSteve
• 16:46
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• 16:47
  oflatenightshows
• 16:48
  where
• 16:48
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• 16:49
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• 16:49
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• 16:49
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• 16:49
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• 16:50
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• 16:50
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• 16:50
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• 16:50
  kinds
• 16:50
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• 16:50
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• 16:51
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• 16:51
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• 16:51
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• 16:52
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• 16:53
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• 16:59
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• 17:00
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• 17:03
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• 17:04
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• 17:07
  notuntil,likeyousaid,January
• 17:09
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• 17:10
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• 17:11
  otherFMstations,which
• 17:13
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• 17:13
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• 17:14
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• 17:16
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• 17:17
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• 17:18
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• 17:18
  justreduplicatedthatbroadcast
• 17:21
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• 17:21
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• 17:22
  thesitefor
• 17:23
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• 17:24
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• 17:24
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• 17:27
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• 17:28
  isthoughtofasbeinglikeCaissoninSanFranciscoand
• 17:33
  otherstationslikethat,butthePacificastationspredateit,
• 17:37
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• 17:37
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• 17:38
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• 17:39
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• 17:39
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• 17:40
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• 17:41
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• 17:42
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• 17:43
  Radio
• 17:44
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• 17:44
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• 17:45
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• 17:45
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• 17:45
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• 17:45
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• 17:46
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• 17:46
  America.
• 17:47
  Once
• 17:47
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• 17:48
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• 17:48
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• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  Fire
• 17:49
  Sline
• 17:49
  Theater
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
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• 17:51
  weekly
• 17:51
  radio
• 17:51
  program,
• 17:52
  Dear
• 17:52
  Friends.
• 17:53
  But
• 17:53
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• 17:53
  hiya,
• 17:54
  friends.
• 17:55
  Bob
• 17:55
  Dog
• 17:55
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• 17:56
  Sooner
• 17:56
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• 17:56
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• 17:57
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• 17:57
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• 17:57
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• 17:57
  Dog,
• 17:58
  Dog
• 17:58
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• 17:58
  Dog
• 17:58
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• 17:59
  Dog
• 17:59
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• 17:59
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• 17:59
  Foot
• 18:00
  tires
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  that
• 18:00
  mean
• 18:01
  shoes.
• 18:01
  And
• 18:01
  mean
• 18:01
  shoes
• 18:03
  means
• 18:03
  industry.
• 18:04
  Yes,
• 18:04
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• 18:05
  rain
• 18:05
  on
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  streets
• 18:05
  again
• 18:06
  and
• 18:06
  where
• 18:06
  there's
• 18:06
  rain,
• 18:07
  there's
• 18:07
  rain
• 18:07
  washed
• 18:07
  streets
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  ought
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  know.
• 18:09
  I'm
• 18:09
  Bob
• 18:09
  Dog
• 18:10
  High
• 18:10
  chick
• 18:10
  and
• 18:10
  it's
• 18:10
  my
• 18:11
  privilege
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  put
• 18:11
  shoes
• 18:12
  on
• 18:12
  your
• 18:12
  best
• 18:12
  friend
• 18:13
  just
• 18:13
  like
• 18:13
  he
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  my
• 18:13
  own
• 18:14
  son's
• 18:14
  car.
• 18:14
  Here's
• 18:15
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• 18:15
  pair
• 18:15
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• 18:15
  make
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  road
• 18:16
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• 18:16
  wide,
• 18:17
  they're
• 18:17
  wider
• 18:17
  than
• 18:18
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• 18:18
  car
• 18:18
  and
• 18:18
  safety
• 18:19
  wrap
• 18:19
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• 18:19
  their
• 18:19
  box
• 18:20
  is
• 18:20
  stored
• 18:20
  forever.
• 18:21
  And
• 18:21
  that's
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  long,
• 18:21
  long
• 18:21
  time
• 18:22
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• 18:22
  seconds
• 18:23
  can
• 18:23
  make
• 18:23
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• 18:23
  difference,
• 18:23
  friends.
• 18:24
  But
• 18:24
  don't
• 18:24
  believe
• 18:24
  me
• 18:25
  unless
• 18:25
  you
• 18:25
  don't
• 18:25
  care
• 18:26
  how
• 18:26
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• 18:26
  it
• 18:26
  costs
• 18:27
  and
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  like
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  kind
• 18:28
  of
• 18:28
  man.
• 18:28
  And
• 18:28
  if
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  are,
• 18:29
  you're
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  kind
• 18:29
  of
• 18:29
  man
• 18:30
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• 18:30
  like
• 18:30
  and
• 18:30
  I'm
• 18:31
  gonna
• 18:31
  keep
• 18:31
  it
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  way
• 18:31
  even
• 18:32
  if
• 18:32
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• 18:32
  have
• 18:32
  to
• 18:32
  offer
• 18:32
  you
• 18:33
  a
• 18:33
  deal
• 18:33
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• 18:33
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• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  be
• 18:33
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• 18:34
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• 18:34
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• 18:34
  be
• 18:34
  offered
• 18:34
  to
• 18:35
  you.
• 18:35
  And
• 18:35
  remember
• 18:35
  this,
• 18:36
  tomorrow
• 18:36
  when
• 18:36
  you're
• 18:36
  awake,
• 18:37
  you
• 18:37
  don't
• 18:37
  have
• 18:38
  to
• 18:38
  come
• 18:38
  to
• 18:38
  Bob
• 18:38
  Dog.
• 18:39
  You
• 18:39
  can
• 18:39
  drive
• 18:39
  around
• 18:39
  on
• 18:39
  lemons
• 18:40
  for
• 18:40
  all
• 18:40
  I
• 18:41
  care.
• 18:41
  Like
• 18:42
  they
• 18:42
  say,
• 18:42
  if
• 18:42
  you
• 18:43
  live
• 18:43
  in
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  water,
• 18:43
  you
• 18:44
  don't
• 18:44
  need
• 18:44
  a
• 18:44
  boat.
• 18:44
  But
• 18:45
  if
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  do,
• 18:45
  give
• 18:46
  me
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  first
• 18:46
  chance
• 18:46
  at
• 18:47
  its
• 18:47
  feats
• 18:47
  and
• 18:47
  you'll
• 18:48
  drive
• 18:48
  away
• 18:48
  a
• 18:48
  happy
• 18:49
  toe.
• 18:49
  Thanks
• 18:49
  for
• 18:49
  looking
• 18:49
  at
• 18:50
  me.
• 18:50
  I'm
• 18:50
  Bob
• 18:50
  Dog
• 18:51
  and
• 18:51
  I'll
• 18:51
  be
• 18:52
  back.
• 18:52
  In
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  late
• 18:52
  60s,
• 18:53
  early
• 18:53
  70s,
• 18:54
  FM
• 18:55
  was
• 18:55
  so
• 18:55
  underground.
• 18:56
  My
• 18:57
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• 18:57
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• 18:57
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• 18:57
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• 18:57
  68
• 18:58
  Buick
• 18:58
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• 18:59
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• 18:59
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• 18:59
  AM
• 18:59
  in
• 19:00
  it.
• 19:00
  And
• 19:00
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• 19:00
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• 19:00
  going
• 19:00
  to
• 19:01
  Radio
• 19:01
  Shack
• 19:01
  and
• 19:02
  I
• 19:02
  bought
• 19:02
  a
• 19:02
  FM
• 19:03
  converter
• 19:03
  that
• 19:03
  you
• 19:03
  literally
• 19:04
  had
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  tap
• 19:04
  into
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  wires
• 19:05
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• 19:05
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• 19:05
  dash
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  plug
• 19:07
  in
• 19:07
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• 19:07
  FM
• 19:08
  converter.
• 19:08
  You
• 19:08
  had
• 19:08
  to
• 19:08
  set
• 19:08
  your
• 19:09
  AM
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  particular
• 19:10
  frequency
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  that
• 19:11
  would
• 19:11
  receive
• 19:12
  what
• 19:12
  this
• 19:12
  little
• 19:13
  box
• 19:13
  was
• 19:13
  receiving.
• 19:14
  And
• 19:14
  you
• 19:14
  would
• 19:14
  get
• 19:14
  FM
• 19:15
  signals.
• 19:15
  You
• 19:15
  had
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  really
• 19:16
  go
• 19:16
  out
• 19:16
  of
• 19:16
  your
• 19:16
  way
• 19:16
  to
• 19:17
  get
• 19:17
  fm,
• 19:17
  but
• 19:18
  immediately
• 19:18
  the
• 19:18
  sound
• 19:19
  was
• 19:19
  better.
• 19:19
  Yeah,
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  stereo.
• 19:20
  Ted.
• 19:21
  Ted,
• 19:21
  did
• 19:21
  they
• 19:21
  give
• 19:21
  you
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  secret
• 19:22
  Dakota
• 19:23
  ring?
• 19:24
  It
• 19:24
  was
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  world,
• 19:26
  it
• 19:26
  was
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  conduit.
• 19:27
  It
• 19:27
  was
• 19:27
  a
• 19:28
  secret
• 19:28
  network.
• 19:29
  In
• 19:29
  many
• 19:29
  ways.
• 19:31
  It
• 19:31
  was
• 19:31
  anything
• 19:32
  goes.
• 19:32
  Even
• 19:32
  in
• 19:32
  the
• 19:32
  mid-70s,
• 19:33
  working
• 19:34
  at
• 19:34
  the
• 19:34
  last
• 19:34
  freeform
• 19:34
  radio
• 19:35
  station
• 19:35
  in
• 19:35
  New
• 19:35
  York
• 19:35
  City
• 19:36
  area,
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  able
• 19:37
  to
• 19:38
  do
• 19:38
  whatever
• 19:38
  I
• 19:38
  wanted,
• 19:39
  including
• 19:39
  having
• 19:39
  David
• 19:40
  Osman
• 19:40
  on
• 19:40
  every
• 19:40
  week
• 19:41
  reporting
• 19:42
  from
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  Campoon
• 19:43
  Trail
• 19:43
  when
• 19:43
  he
• 19:43
  was
• 19:44
  running
• 19:45
  for
• 19:45
  office.
• 19:45
  You
• 19:46
  could
• 19:46
  do
• 19:46
  that
• 19:46
  kind
• 19:47
  of
• 19:47
  thing,
• 19:47
  Jeremy.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  didn't
• 19:48
  realize
• 19:48
  that
• 19:49
  Bob
• 19:49
  Fass
• 19:49
  and
• 19:49
  Radio
• 19:50
  Unnamable
• 19:50
  inspired
• 19:51
  Peter.
• 19:52
  Bob
• 19:53
  was
• 19:53
  pretty
• 19:53
  remarkable.
• 19:54
  He
• 19:54
  called
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  be
• 19:55
  in
• 19:55
  or
• 19:56
  something
• 19:56
  at
• 19:57
  Kennedy,
• 19:57
  at
• 19:57
  JFK
• 19:58
  Airport.
• 19:58
  The
• 19:59
  fly-in.
• 19:59
  Yeah,
• 19:59
  fly-in.
• 20:00
  And
• 20:00
  he
• 20:00
  filled
• 20:01
  up
• 20:01
  like
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  TWA
• 20:02
  terminal.
• 20:02
  Thousands
• 20:03
  of
• 20:03
  people
• 20:03
  showed
• 20:04
  up.
• 20:04
  That
• 20:05
  was
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  power
• 20:05
  of
• 20:06
  FM
• 20:06
  radio
• 20:07
  back
• 20:07
  then.
• 20:08
  Yeah.
• 20:08
  He
• 20:08
  also
• 20:09
  helped
• 20:09
  organize
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  protests
• 20:11
  at
• 20:11
  the
• 20:11
  '68
• 20:12
  Democratic
• 20:12
  National
• 20:12
  Convention.
• 20:13
  Pete
• 20:14
  came
• 20:14
  out
• 20:14
  here
• 20:14
  and
• 20:14
  created
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  Love-in
• 20:16
  at
• 20:16
  Elysian
• 20:17
  park
• 20:17
  here
• 20:17
  in
• 20:17
  la.
• 20:18
  It
• 20:18
  brought
• 20:19
  people
• 20:19
  together.
• 20:20
  It
• 20:20
  made
• 20:20
  you
• 20:20
  feel
• 20:20
  a
• 20:21
  part
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  a
• 20:21
  community.
• 20:22
  And
• 20:22
  it
• 20:23
  was
• 20:23
  a
• 20:23
  creative,
• 20:24
  live,
• 20:25
  surprising
• 20:26
  environment.
• 20:27
  You
• 20:27
  never
• 20:27
  knew
• 20:27
  what
• 20:27
  you
• 20:28
  were
• 20:28
  gonna
• 20:28
  get.
• 20:29
  Innovative,
• 20:29
  that's
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  word
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  wanted.
• 20:31
  It
• 20:31
  was
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  wonderful
• 20:32
  source
• 20:33
  for
• 20:33
  innovation
• 20:34
  and
• 20:35
  a
• 20:35
  lot
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  great
• 20:36
  people
• 20:36
  came
• 20:36
  out
• 20:37
  of
• 20:37
  it.
• 20:37
  Frank
• 20:37
  Zappa
• 20:38
  and
• 20:38
  Devo.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  just
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  creativity
• 20:41
  was
• 20:41
  amazing.
• 20:42
  Radio
• 20:42
  Free
• 20:42
  Oz
• 20:43
  was
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  radio
• 20:43
  show
• 20:43
  that
• 20:44
  Peter
• 20:44
  cohostedhereon
• 20:45
  KPFKbackinthemid-60sthatcreatedFiresignTheatreco-hosted.BecauseDavidOssandmanwastheliterarydirector,dramadirector.AndthenPhilAustin.
• 20:55
  Yeah,
• 20:55
  they
• 20:55
  both
• 20:55
  had
• 20:55
  that
• 20:55
  job.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  then
• 20:56
  Phil,
• 20:57
  you
• 20:57
  were
• 20:57
  last
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  the
• 20:58
  party.
• 20:58
  You
• 20:58
  knew
• 20:58
  Peter
• 20:59
  when
• 20:59
  you
• 20:59
  both
• 20:59
  went
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  Yale,
• 21:00
  you.
• 21:00
  Peter
• 21:00
  was
• 21:00
  writing
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  lyrics
• 21:02
  for
• 21:02
  musicals
• 21:03
  I
• 21:03
  was
• 21:03
  starring
• 21:04
  in,
• 21:04
  like
• 21:04
  Tom
• 21:05
  Jones
• 21:06
  and
• 21:06
  Booth
• 21:06
  is
• 21:06
  Back
• 21:06
  in
• 21:07
  Town,
• 21:07
  written
• 21:07
  by
• 21:07
  the
• 21:08
  great
• 21:08
  Austin
• 21:09
  Pendleton.
• 21:09
  It
• 21:10
  was
• 21:10
  an
• 21:10
  amazing
• 21:10
  time
• 21:11
  from
• 21:11
  59
• 21:12
  to
• 21:12
  62
• 21:13
  at
• 21:13
  Yale.
• 21:14
  Full
• 21:14
  of
• 21:15
  incredible
• 21:15
  creativity.
• 21:16
  That's
• 21:17
  how
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  got
• 21:17
  to
• 21:17
  know
• 21:17
  Peter
• 21:18
  originally.
• 21:18
  And
• 21:19
  we
• 21:19
  actually
• 21:19
  did
• 21:19
  some
• 21:19
  improvisation
• 21:21
  on
• 21:21
  Yale
• 21:21
  radio
• 21:22
  together,
• 21:23
  if
• 21:23
  I
• 21:23
  remember
• 21:24
  correctly.
• 21:24
  But
• 21:25
  he
• 21:25
  showed
• 21:26
  up
• 21:26
  again
• 21:26
  in
• 21:26
  my
• 21:26
  life
• 21:28
  after
• 21:28
  I
• 21:28
  graduated.
• 21:29
  I
• 21:29
  sat
• 21:30
  on
• 21:30
  a
• 21:30
  picture
• 21:30
  of
• 21:30
  his
• 21:31
  face
• 21:32
  in
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  lap
• 21:33
  press
• 21:33
  interviewing
• 21:34
  returning
• 21:34
  war
• 21:34
  veterans.
• 21:36
  And
• 21:36
  it
• 21:36
  said,
• 21:36
  KPFK
• 21:37
  newsman
• 21:37
  Peter
• 21:38
  Bergman.
• 21:38
  And
• 21:39
  that's
• 21:39
  when
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  contacted
• 21:40
  kpfk,
• 21:41
  met
• 21:41
  the
• 21:42
  other
• 21:42
  guys.
• 21:43
  We
• 21:43
  found
• 21:43
  out
• 21:44
  we
• 21:44
  were
• 21:44
  all
• 21:44
  fire
• 21:44
  signs.
• 21:45
  Peter's
• 21:46
  show
• 21:46
  had
• 21:46
  evolved
• 21:47
  into
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  late
• 21:48
  night
• 21:49
  counterculture
• 21:50
  talk
• 21:51
  show.
• 21:51
  It
• 21:52
  was
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  phenom.
• 21:52
  Yeah.
• 21:53
  With
• 21:53
  occasional
• 21:54
  breaks
• 21:55
  for
• 21:55
  ragas
• 21:56
  so
• 21:56
  we
• 21:56
  could
• 21:57
  all
• 21:57
  go
• 21:57
  outside
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  have
• 21:58
  a
• 21:58
  smoke.
• 21:59
  Right.
• 22:00
  He
• 22:00
  created
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  whole
• 22:01
  new
• 22:01
  media.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  can
• 22:02
  read
• 22:02
  about
• 22:03
  this
• 22:03
  in
• 22:03
  my
• 22:03
  book,
• 22:03
  Where's
• 22:04
  My
• 22:04
  Fortune
• 22:04
  Cookie?
• 22:05
  But
• 22:05
  it
• 22:06
  really
• 22:06
  was
• 22:06
  an
• 22:06
  extraordinary
• 22:08
  stroke
• 22:08
  of
• 22:08
  good
• 22:08
  fortune
• 22:09
  that
• 22:10
  brought
• 22:10
  us
• 22:10
  together
• 22:11
  and
• 22:11
  kept
• 22:12
  us
• 22:12
  going.
• 22:12
  The
• 22:12
  clip
• 22:13
  that
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  suggested
• 22:14
  we
• 22:14
  play.
• 22:14
  Jeremy,
• 22:15
  set
• 22:16
  this
• 22:16
  up.
• 22:16
  What
• 22:16
  we're
• 22:16
  gonna
• 22:17
  listen
• 22:17
  to.
• 22:17
  Yeah,
• 22:18
  let
• 22:18
  me
• 22:18
  set
• 22:18
  this
• 22:18
  up.
• 22:18
  And
• 22:19
  Phil,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:20
  bet
• 22:20
  you
• 22:20
  haven't
• 22:20
  heard
• 22:21
  this,
• 22:21
  so
• 22:22
  I
• 22:22
  really
• 22:22
  want
• 22:23
  to
• 22:23
  know
• 22:23
  what
• 22:23
  it
• 22:24
  sounds
• 22:24
  like
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  you.
• 22:25
  All
• 22:25
  will
• 22:25
  be
• 22:25
  revealed.
• 22:26
  Phil's
• 22:26
  already
• 22:26
  mentioned
• 22:27
  Firesign's
• 22:28
  amazing
• 22:28
  archive.
• 22:29
  And
• 22:29
  it
• 22:29
  really
• 22:29
  is
• 22:29
  an
• 22:30
  astonishing
• 22:30
  archive.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:31
  there's
• 22:32
  a
• 22:32
  lot
• 22:32
  more
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  be
• 22:33
  discovered
• 22:33
  there.
• 22:33
  And
• 22:33
  one
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  things
• 22:35
  that.
• 22:36
  One
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  things
• 22:37
  that's
• 22:37
  so
• 22:37
  amazing
• 22:37
  is
• 22:38
  that
• 22:38
  there
• 22:38
  are
• 22:38
  multiple
• 22:39
  versions
• 22:40
  of
• 22:41
  the
• 22:42
  scripts
• 22:42
  for
• 22:42
  all
• 22:42
  of
• 22:43
  the
• 22:43
  albums.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  so
• 22:44
  you
• 22:44
  can
• 22:44
  see
• 22:44
  them.
• 22:45
  It's
• 22:45
  what
• 22:46
  literary
• 22:46
  scholars
• 22:46
  would
• 22:46
  call
• 22:47
  genetic
• 22:47
  criticism.
• 22:48
  You
• 22:48
  can
• 22:48
  see
• 22:48
  a
• 22:49
  piece
• 22:49
  emerging.
• 22:50
  What
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  hoping
• 22:51
  I
• 22:51
  would
• 22:51
  find
• 22:51
  is
• 22:52
  notes
• 22:52
  for
• 22:52
  recording.
• 22:53
  And
• 22:54
  there
• 22:54
  are
• 22:54
  those
• 22:54
  things.
• 22:54
  And
• 22:55
  David
• 22:55
  Osman
• 22:56
  pointed
• 22:56
  out
• 22:56
  each
• 22:56
  of
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  records
• 22:57
  really
• 22:57
  proceeds
• 22:58
  differently.
• 22:58
  But
• 22:59
  one
• 22:59
  of
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  things
• 22:59
  that
• 23:00
  you
• 23:00
  can
• 23:00
  see
• 23:00
  on
• 23:00
  several
• 23:01
  of
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  records
• 23:01
  are
• 23:01
  scenes
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  were
• 23:02
  deleted.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:03
  I
• 23:04
  got
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  hang
• 23:04
  out
• 23:04
  with
• 23:05
  him
• 23:05
  before
• 23:05
  the
• 23:06
  archive
• 23:06
  went
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  Library
• 23:07
  of
• 23:07
  Congress.
• 23:07
  So
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  was
• 23:08
  hanging
• 23:08
  out
• 23:09
  at
• 23:09
  his
• 23:09
  kitchen
• 23:10
  table
• 23:10
  and
• 23:10
  we
• 23:10
  would
• 23:10
  pull
• 23:11
  out
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  folder
• 23:11
  and
• 23:12
  read
• 23:12
  some
• 23:13
  things
• 23:13
  together.
• 23:13
  And
• 23:13
  I
• 23:14
  wish
• 23:14
  I
• 23:14
  had
• 23:14
  done
• 23:14
  more
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  this.
• 23:15
  But
• 23:15
  there
• 23:16
  is
• 23:16
  one.
• 23:17
  There's
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  sequence
• 23:18
  from
• 23:18
  Don't
• 23:18
  Crush
• 23:18
  that
• 23:19
  Dwarf
• 23:19
  where
• 23:20
  he's
• 23:20
  just
• 23:20
  working
• 23:21
  through
• 23:21
  a
• 23:21
  couple
• 23:21
  of
• 23:22
  pages
• 23:22
  that
• 23:22
  didn't
• 23:22
  make
• 23:22
  it
• 23:23
  into
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  record.
• 23:24
  And
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  is
• 23:25
  what
• 23:25
  we're
• 23:25
  going
• 23:25
  to
• 23:25
  listen
• 23:25
  to.
• 23:26
  And,
• 23:26
  Phil,
• 23:26
  I
• 23:27
  would
• 23:27
  love
• 23:27
  to
• 23:28
  hear
• 23:28
  what
• 23:28
  this
• 23:29
  sounds
• 23:29
  like
• 23:29
  to
• 23:29
  you.
• 23:30
  Music
• 23:30
  playing
• 23:31
  Technical
• 23:31
  difficulties.
• 23:32
  We'll
• 23:32
  return
• 23:32
  to
• 23:33
  our
• 23:33
  future
• 23:33
  High
• 23:33
  School
• 23:33
  Madness
• 23:35
  Shoes
• 23:36
  for
• 23:36
  industry.
• 23:37
  Meaning
• 23:37
  we're
• 23:37
  going
• 23:37
  to
• 23:37
  plug
• 23:38
  in
• 23:38
  a
• 23:38
  previously
• 23:39
  produced
• 23:39
  element.
• 23:40
  Yep.
• 23:40
  Click.
• 23:41
  White
• 23:41
  noise.
• 23:41
  Click.
• 23:42
  Integrated
• 23:42
  Community
• 23:42
  Workers.
• 23:43
  We
• 23:43
  plugged
• 23:43
  in
• 23:44
  a
• 23:44
  previously
• 23:44
  recorded
• 23:46
  Click.
• 23:46
  Hawaiian
• 23:46
  sellout.
• 23:47
  And
• 23:47
  then
• 23:47
  we're
• 23:48
  back
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  the
• 23:49
  movie.
• 23:50
  That's
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  stupid
• 23:51
  idea.
• 23:51
  Porgy,
• 23:51
  where
• 23:52
  are
• 23:52
  we
• 23:52
  going
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  get
• 23:52
  lizard
• 23:53
  costumes?
• 23:56
  That's
• 23:56
  too
• 23:57
  bad.
• 23:57
  That
• 23:57
  one
• 23:57
  didn't.
• 23:57
  Yeah,
• 23:58
  I'm
• 23:58
  really
• 23:58
  sorry
• 23:59
  about
• 23:59
  that.
• 24:00
  Let's
• 24:01
  see.
• 24:01
  That's
• 24:01
  a
• 24:01
  stupid
• 24:02
  idea.
• 24:02
  Okay.
• 24:02
  Well,
• 24:03
  it's
• 24:03
  mighty
• 24:03
  dangerous.
• 24:04
  It's
• 24:04
  mighty
• 24:05
  dangerous
• 24:05
  it's
• 24:06
  mighty
• 24:06
  dangerous
• 24:06
  over
• 24:07
  there
• 24:07
  at
• 24:07
  Tommy
• 24:07
  Martyrs.
• 24:08
  Once
• 24:08
  we
• 24:08
  get
• 24:08
  under
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  wall,
• 24:09
  we're
• 24:10
  in
• 24:10
  enemy
• 24:10
  territory.
• 24:11
  I
• 24:12
  know
• 24:12
  a
• 24:12
  tough
• 24:12
  guy
• 24:12
  who
• 24:12
  won't
• 24:13
  be
• 24:13
  afraid
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  help
• 24:13
  us.
• 24:13
  We'll
• 24:14
  phone
• 24:14
  him
• 24:14
  from
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  rumble
• 24:15
  seat.
• 24:15
  You
• 24:15
  got
• 24:15
  a
• 24:15
  dime?
• 24:16
  This
• 24:16
  is
• 24:16
  my
• 24:16
  bad
• 24:18
  dime.
• 24:18
  Drops
• 24:19
  phone
• 24:19
  Dial
• 24:19
  Highway
• 24:20
  Patrol
• 24:21
  Theme
• 24:21
  on
• 24:22
  Oregon
• 24:23
  and
• 24:23
  Oath
• 24:23
  the
• 24:24
  Fly
• 24:24
  counterspy
• 24:25
  afflictor
• 24:26
  of
• 24:26
  justice,
• 24:27
  able
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  carry
• 24:28
  200
• 24:28
  times
• 24:28
  his
• 24:29
  own
• 24:29
  weight,
• 24:30
  Able
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  walk
• 24:30
  on
• 24:30
  ceilings
• 24:31
  upside
• 24:31
  down.
• 24:32
  Rubs
• 24:33
  his
• 24:33
  legs
• 24:33
  together.
• 24:34
  The
• 24:34
  fly
• 24:35
  relentlessly
• 24:36
  strikes
• 24:37
  fear
• 24:37
  at
• 24:37
  trembling
• 24:38
  into
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  carriers
• 24:39
  of
• 24:39
  organized
• 24:40
  anarchy.
• 24:41
  He's
• 24:41
  out
• 24:42
  right
• 24:42
  now.
• 24:42
  But
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  fly
• 24:42
  is
• 24:43
  always
• 24:43
  open
• 24:43
  for
• 24:43
  business.
• 24:44
  Record
• 24:45
  your
• 24:45
  message
• 24:46
  and
• 24:46
  speak
• 24:46
  American.
• 24:50
  Sorry,
• 24:51
  he
• 24:51
  didn't
• 24:51
  make
• 24:51
  it.
• 24:52
  Golly
• 24:53
  mudhead.
• 24:53
  There's
• 24:54
  no
• 24:54
  time
• 24:54
  like
• 24:54
  this
• 24:54
  left.
• 24:55
  Graduation
• 24:55
  at
• 24:55
  2
• 24:56
  o'.
• 24:56
  Clock.
• 24:56
  What
• 24:56
  are
• 24:56
  we
• 24:56
  going
• 24:56
  to
• 24:57
  do?
• 24:57
  The
• 24:57
  Fly
• 24:58
  says
• 24:58
  do
• 24:58
  nothing.
• 24:58
  I
• 24:59
  know
• 24:59
  your
• 24:59
  problem.
• 24:59
  Say
• 25:00
  nothing.
• 25:00
  This
• 25:00
  phone
• 25:01
  has
• 25:01
  ears.
• 25:03
  Meet
• 25:03
  me
• 25:03
  after
• 25:03
  nutrition
• 25:04
  and
• 25:05
  coffee.
• 25:05
  Hike.
• 25:09
  Okay.
• 25:10
  And
• 25:10
  that
• 25:10
  didn't
• 25:10
  make
• 25:10
  it
• 25:11
  in.
• 25:11
  No,
• 25:12
  but.
• 25:12
  But
• 25:13
  here's.
• 25:13
  Here's
• 25:14
  what
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  have
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  say
• 25:14
  about
• 25:15
  that.
• 25:16
  We
• 25:16
  would
• 25:17
  spend
• 25:18
  hours
• 25:19
  quibbling
• 25:20
  over,
• 25:21
  well,
• 25:21
  sometimes
• 25:22
  downright
• 25:22
  fighting
• 25:23
  over
• 25:23
  where
• 25:24
  one
• 25:24
  of
• 25:24
  the
• 25:25
  records
• 25:25
  was
• 25:26
  going
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  go
• 25:27
  and
• 25:27
  what.
• 25:28
  What
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  lines
• 25:29
  were
• 25:29
  and
• 25:29
  who
• 25:29
  the
• 25:30
  characters
• 25:30
  were.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:32
  slowly
• 25:32
  but
• 25:32
  surely
• 25:33
  the
• 25:34
  script
• 25:34
  would
• 25:34
  be
• 25:34
  assembled
• 25:35
  enough
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  it
• 25:36
  that
• 25:36
  we
• 25:37
  could
• 25:37
  go
• 25:37
  into
• 25:37
  the
• 25:38
  studio
• 25:38
  and
• 25:39
  lay
• 25:39
  something
• 25:40
  down.
• 25:41
  When
• 25:41
  we
• 25:41
  went
• 25:41
  into
• 25:41
  the
• 25:42
  studio,
• 25:42
  more
• 25:43
  often
• 25:43
  than
• 25:43
  not,
• 25:44
  this
• 25:44
  material
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  we
• 25:45
  had
• 25:46
  worked
• 25:46
  over
• 25:47
  with
• 25:47
  blood,
• 25:47
  sweat
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  tears
• 25:49
  for
• 25:49
  hours,
• 25:50
  we'd
• 25:50
  start
• 25:51
  bringing
• 25:51
  it
• 25:52
  up
• 25:52
  on
• 25:52
  its
• 25:52
  feet
• 25:53
  and
• 25:53
  we
• 25:53
  began
• 25:54
  improvising
• 25:55
  on
• 25:55
  it.
• 25:56
  And
• 25:56
  it
• 25:56
  would
• 25:56
  take
• 25:57
  on
• 25:57
  a
• 25:57
  whole
• 25:57
  new
• 25:58
  life
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  the
• 25:59
  studio.
• 26:00
  I
• 26:00
  always
• 26:00
  thought
• 26:00
  of
• 26:01
  it
• 26:01
  in
• 26:01
  terms
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  a
• 26:02
  Broadway
• 26:02
  show
• 26:03
  where
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  were
• 26:04
  doing
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  out
• 26:04
  of
• 26:05
  town
• 26:05
  tryout
• 26:06
  in
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  studio
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  then
• 26:09
  opening
• 26:09
  the
• 26:10
  show
• 26:10
  at
• 26:10
  the
• 26:10
  same
• 26:11
  time.
• 26:12
  And
• 26:12
  we
• 26:12
  discovered
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  again,
• 26:13
  the
• 26:14
  art
• 26:14
  of
• 26:14
  improvisation,
• 26:16
  once
• 26:16
  we
• 26:17
  had
• 26:17
  gotten
• 26:17
  under
• 26:17
  the
• 26:18
  skin
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  these
• 26:18
  characters,
• 26:19
  kind
• 26:20
  of
• 26:20
  knew
• 26:20
  who
• 26:20
  they
• 26:20
  were,
• 26:21
  would
• 26:22
  very
• 26:22
  often
• 26:23
  create
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  whole
• 26:24
  new
• 26:25
  writing
• 26:26
  at
• 26:26
  the
• 26:27
  moment
• 26:27
  that
• 26:28
  became
• 26:28
  part
• 26:28
  of
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  actual
• 26:29
  record
• 26:30
  itself.
• 26:31
  The
• 26:31
  dynamic
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  four
• 26:33
  brilliant
• 26:33
  comedians,
• 26:34
  writers
• 26:35
  trying
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  produce
• 26:36
  something
• 26:36
  in
• 26:37
  unison
• 26:38
  is
• 26:38
  no
• 26:38
  mean
• 26:38
  feat.
• 26:39
  I
• 26:40
  witnessed
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  rehearsal
• 26:42
  once
• 26:42
  that
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  all
• 26:43
  did,
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  I
• 26:44
  also
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  in
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  studio
• 26:45
  when
• 26:45
  you
• 26:45
  were
• 26:45
  recording
• 26:46
  one
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  your
• 26:46
  last
• 26:46
  albums.
• 26:47
  And
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  intensity
• 26:49
  was
• 26:49
  palpable.
• 26:50
  I
• 26:50
  left.
• 26:51
  It
• 26:51
  was
• 26:52
  a
• 26:52
  little
• 26:52
  less
• 26:52
  than
• 26:52
  pleasant,
• 26:53
  but
• 26:53
  that
• 26:54
  was
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  kind
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  energy.
• 26:55
  And
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  other
• 26:56
  thing
• 26:56
  that
• 26:56
  was
• 26:56
  really
• 26:56
  great
• 26:57
  was
• 26:57
  minority
• 26:58
  dissent.
• 26:58
  I
• 26:59
  read
• 26:59
  in
• 26:59
  Jeremy's
• 26:59
  book
• 27:00
  that's
• 27:00
  how
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  Firesign
• 27:01
  operated.
• 27:01
  There
• 27:01
  had
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  be
• 27:02
  unanimous
• 27:03
  consent
• 27:03
  to
• 27:03
  go
• 27:04
  ahead
• 27:04
  with
• 27:04
  anything.
• 27:04
  Which
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  guess
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  what
• 27:06
  made
• 27:06
  it
• 27:06
  happen.
• 27:07
  Yes,
• 27:07
  that's
• 27:08
  right.
• 27:08
  And
• 27:08
  of
• 27:09
  course
• 27:09
  it
• 27:10
  did
• 27:10
  create
• 27:10
  friction.
• 27:11
  But
• 27:11
  every
• 27:12
  relationship,
• 27:13
  every
• 27:13
  that's
• 27:14
  worth
• 27:14
  its
• 27:14
  salt
• 27:15
  has
• 27:15
  friction,
• 27:16
  all
• 27:16
  right,
• 27:16
  because
• 27:17
  you've
• 27:17
  got
• 27:17
  individuals
• 27:18
  with.
• 27:19
  With
• 27:19
  the
• 27:20
  wonderful
• 27:20
  ideas
• 27:21
  smashing
• 27:22
  up
• 27:22
  against
• 27:23
  other
• 27:23
  wonderful
• 27:24
  ideas.
• 27:25
  Marxism
• 27:26
  describes
• 27:26
  it
• 27:26
  as
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  thesis
• 27:28
  and
• 27:28
  an
• 27:29
  antithesis
• 27:30
  which
• 27:30
  created
• 27:31
  a
• 27:31
  synthesis,
• 27:32
  which
• 27:32
  was
• 27:33
  finally
• 27:33
  the
• 27:34
  ultimate
• 27:34
  thesis.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:35
  that's
• 27:36
  kind
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  what
• 27:36
  would
• 27:36
  happen
• 27:36
  with
• 27:37
  us.
• 27:37
  Yes,
• 27:37
  we
• 27:38
  would
• 27:38
  fight
• 27:39
  for
• 27:39
  our
• 27:39
  comedic
• 27:40
  ideas
• 27:41
  and
• 27:41
  often
• 27:41
  out
• 27:42
  of
• 27:42
  that
• 27:42
  would
• 27:42
  come
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  compromise
• 27:44
  that
• 27:44
  was
• 27:45
  a
• 27:46
  wonderful
• 27:46
  combination
• 27:46
  of
• 27:47
  funny
• 27:48
  from
• 27:48
  all
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  other
• 27:49
  minds.
• 27:49
  Yeah,
• 27:50
  and
• 27:51
  so
• 27:52
  it
• 27:52
  worked
• 27:52
  for
• 27:52
  us.
• 27:53
  Wasn't
• 27:53
  always
• 27:53
  pleasant,
• 27:54
  but
• 27:54
  creativity
• 27:55
  isn't
• 27:56
  always
• 27:56
  pleasant.
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  have
• 27:58
  a
• 27:58
  story
• 27:58
  that
• 27:58
  I'm
• 27:58
  actually
• 27:59
  really
• 27:59
  happy
• 27:59
  that
• 27:59
  I
• 28:00
  can
• 28:00
  tell
• 28:00
  you
• 28:00
  from
• 28:01
  when
• 28:01
  I
• 28:01
  met
• 28:01
  you
• 28:01
  in
• 28:01
  94.
• 28:03
  Whereas,
• 28:04
  as
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  said,
• 28:04
  I
• 28:05
  was
• 28:05
  not
• 28:05
  ready
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  write
• 28:05
  a
• 28:06
  book
• 28:06
  on
• 28:06
  Firesign
• 28:06
  Theatre,
• 28:07
  but
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  was
• 28:07
  really
• 28:07
  happy
• 28:07
  to
• 28:08
  speak
• 28:09
  with
• 28:09
  each
• 28:09
  of
• 28:09
  you.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  had
• 28:10
  moved
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  San
• 28:11
  Francisco
• 28:11
  to
• 28:11
  play
• 28:11
  in
• 28:11
  a
• 28:11
  band,
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  I'd
• 28:12
  just
• 28:12
  been
• 28:13
  booted
• 28:13
  out
• 28:13
  of
• 28:13
  the
• 28:14
  band.
• 28:14
  So
• 28:15
  for
• 28:15
  reasons
• 28:15
  that
• 28:16
  I
• 28:16
  will
• 28:16
  not
• 28:16
  get
• 28:16
  into
• 28:16
  now
• 28:17
  in
• 28:17
  Santa
• 28:18
  Monica,
• 28:18
  I
• 28:18
  spent
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  little
• 28:19
  time
• 28:19
  with
• 28:19
  each
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  you.
• 28:20
  And
• 28:20
  I
• 28:20
  too,
• 28:21
  noticed
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  intensity
• 28:22
  of
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  rehearsal.
• 28:23
  And
• 28:24
  when
• 28:24
  I
• 28:24
  was
• 28:24
  talking
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  Phil
• 28:25
  Austin,
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  said,
• 28:26
  oh,
• 28:26
  yeah,
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  know,
• 28:27
  I've
• 28:27
  been
• 28:28
  in
• 28:28
  bands,
• 28:28
  so
• 28:29
  I
• 28:29
  know
• 28:29
  how
• 28:29
  it
• 28:29
  is.
• 28:30
  And
• 28:30
  he
• 28:30
  goes,
• 28:30
  yeah.
• 28:32
  But
• 28:32
  he
• 28:32
  said,
• 28:32
  but
• 28:32
  we
• 28:33
  all
• 28:33
  play
• 28:33
  the
• 28:33
  same
• 28:33
  instrument.
• 28:34
  The
• 28:34
  people
• 28:35
  who
• 28:35
  were
• 28:35
  running
• 28:35
  media,
• 28:36
  who
• 28:36
  were
• 28:36
  running
• 28:36
  MTV
• 28:37
  and
• 28:37
  all
• 28:37
  that,
• 28:38
  they
• 28:38
  were
• 28:38
  all
• 28:38
  tripping
• 28:39
  in
• 28:39
  their
• 28:39
  Dorms
• 28:40
  in
• 28:40
  the
• 28:40
  60s
• 28:41
  and
• 28:41
  cut
• 28:41
  their
• 28:41
  teeth
• 28:42
  on
• 28:42
  Fire
• 28:42
  Sign.
• 28:43
  They
• 28:43
  were
• 28:43
  all
• 28:43
  on
• 28:44
  fans.
• 28:44
  They
• 28:44
  were
• 28:45
  fans.
• 28:45
  They
• 28:45
  wanted
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  be
• 28:46
  connected
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  it.
• 28:47
  A
• 28:47
  couple
• 28:47
  of
• 28:48
  decades
• 28:48
  into
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  future,
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  lot
• 28:50
  of
• 28:50
  people
• 28:51
  don't
• 28:51
  know
• 28:51
  who
• 28:52
  Firesign
• 28:52
  Theatre
• 28:53
  is.
• 28:53
  Comedy
• 28:53
  albums
• 28:54
  like
• 28:54
  Firesign
• 28:55
  Theatre
• 28:56
  gave
• 28:56
  way
• 28:56
  to
• 28:56
  TV
• 28:57
  specials.
• 28:57
  Saturday
• 28:58
  Night
• 28:58
  Live
• 28:59
  launched
• 29:00
  Lampoon,
• 29:00
  Monty
• 29:01
  Python,
• 29:02
  hbo,
• 29:03
  which
• 29:04
  premiered
• 29:04
  Stand
• 29:05
  up
• 29:05
  comedy
• 29:05
  specials
• 29:06
  that
• 29:06
  still,
• 29:06
  as
• 29:06
  you
• 29:07
  wrote,
• 29:07
  Jeremy,
• 29:07
  are
• 29:08
  happening
• 29:08
  in
• 29:08
  Netflix.
• 29:09
  Is
• 29:09
  that
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  fair
• 29:10
  assessment,
• 29:10
  Phil?
• 29:11
  Jeremy?
• 29:12
  Yeah.
• 29:13
  The
• 29:13
  comedy
• 29:13
  special
• 29:14
  that
• 29:14
  the
• 29:14
  Firesign
• 29:14
  TheatrePBSfinallydidwas
• 29:16
  on
• 29:17
  pbs.
• 29:18
  I
• 29:18
  think
• 29:18
  that
• 29:18
  says
• 29:19
  it
• 29:19
  all.
• 29:21
  But
• 29:21
  David
• 29:22
  told
• 29:22
  me
• 29:22
  this.
• 29:22
  One
• 29:22
  of
• 29:22
  our
• 29:22
  fans
• 29:23
  once
• 29:23
  said,
• 29:24
  for
• 29:24
  four
• 29:24
  years,
• 29:25
  everybody
• 29:25
  knew
• 29:26
  who
• 29:26
  you
• 29:26
  were.
• 29:27
  And
• 29:27
  it's
• 29:28
  true.
• 29:28
  It's
• 29:29
  really
• 29:29
  true.
• 29:29
  There
• 29:30
  was
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  period
• 29:30
  of
• 29:31
  time,
• 29:31
  maybe
• 29:31
  it
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  more
• 29:32
  like
• 29:32
  six
• 29:32
  years.
• 29:32
  I
• 29:33
  don't
• 29:33
  know
• 29:33
  where.
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  remember
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  was
• 29:35
  in
• 29:35
  Oslo
• 29:36
  with
• 29:36
  my
• 29:36
  second
• 29:37
  wife,
• 29:37
  Butterbril,
• 29:38
  and
• 29:38
  we
• 29:38
  were
• 29:39
  at
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  Munch
• 29:39
  Museum
• 29:40
  in
• 29:41
  Oslo,
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  there's
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  couple
• 29:43
  of
• 29:43
  American
• 29:44
  tourists
• 29:44
  there,
• 29:45
  and
• 29:45
  this
• 29:45
  guy
• 29:45
  says,
• 29:46
  are
• 29:46
  you
• 29:46
  Phil
• 29:46
  Proctor?
• 29:49
  I
• 29:49
  think
• 29:49
  so.
• 29:50
  I
• 29:50
  know
• 29:50
  there
• 29:50
  are
• 29:51
  many
• 29:51
  other
• 29:51
  Phil
• 29:51
  Proctors,
• 29:52
  but
• 29:52
  I'm
• 29:53
  one
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  them.
• 29:53
  He
• 29:54
  said,
• 29:54
  Fireside
• 29:55
  Theater.
• 29:55
  I
• 29:55
  said,
• 29:56
  yes.
• 29:57
  It
• 29:57
  was
• 29:57
  like,
• 29:57
  my
• 29:58
  God,
• 29:59
  our
• 29:59
  fans
• 29:59
  were
• 30:00
  everywhere
• 30:01
  at
• 30:01
  a
• 30:02
  particular
• 30:02
  period
• 30:03
  in
• 30:03
  time.
• 30:04
  And
• 30:04
  then
• 30:04
  because
• 30:04
  of
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  complexity
• 30:05
  of
• 30:06
  what
• 30:06
  we
• 30:06
  did
• 30:07
  and
• 30:07
  also
• 30:07
  the
• 30:08
  media
• 30:08
  that
• 30:09
  we
• 30:09
  did
• 30:09
  it
• 30:09
  on,
• 30:09
  phonograph
• 30:10
  records
• 30:11
  became
• 30:12
  kind
• 30:12
  of
• 30:12
  obsolete.
• 30:14
  Even
• 30:14
  though
• 30:14
  we.
• 30:14
  We
• 30:14
  got
• 30:15
  three
• 30:15
  Grammy
• 30:15
  nominations,
• 30:16
  and
• 30:16
  I
• 30:17
  think
• 30:17
  two
• 30:17
  of
• 30:17
  them
• 30:17
  were
• 30:17
  for
• 30:18
  our
• 30:18
  CDs
• 30:19
  of
• 30:19
  comedy.
• 30:21
  It
• 30:21
  was
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  different
• 30:22
  culture.
• 30:22
  You
• 30:23
  did
• 30:23
  visual
• 30:23
  work?
• 30:24
  Yeah,
• 30:25
  we
• 30:25
  did
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  movie
• 30:26
  called
• 30:26
  Everything,You
• 30:27
  KnowIs.Andyes,wedidvisualstuff,butbasicallyourworkwastoopoliticalforustogetonmassmediaand
• 30:36
  on
• 30:36
  television.
• 30:37
  Jeremy,
• 30:37
  what's
• 30:38
  your
• 30:38
  take
• 30:38
  on
• 30:38
  the
• 30:39
  ultimate
• 30:39
  result
• 30:40
  of
• 30:40
  Firesign
• 30:41
  and
• 30:41
  its
• 30:42
  impact,
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  sort
• 30:43
  of
• 30:43
  fading
• 30:43
  of
• 30:43
  it.
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  think
• 30:45
  that
• 30:45
  it
• 30:45
  passed
• 30:46
  into
• 30:46
  other
• 30:46
  media
• 30:47
  and
• 30:47
  projects.
• 30:47
  I
• 30:48
  would
• 30:48
  say
• 30:48
  one
• 30:48
  thing
• 30:48
  that
• 30:48
  I
• 30:49
  think
• 30:49
  is
• 30:49
  pretty
• 30:49
  striking.
• 30:50
  Although,
• 30:50
  Phil,
• 30:51
  please
• 30:51
  contradict
• 30:51
  me
• 30:52
  if
• 30:52
  you
• 30:52
  think
• 30:52
  that
• 30:52
  this
• 30:52
  is
• 30:53
  wrong.
• 30:53
  But
• 30:54
  I'm
• 30:55
  not
• 30:55
  sure
• 30:55
  that
• 30:55
  Firesign
• 30:56
  has
• 30:56
  any
• 30:56
  direct
• 30:57
  inheritors.
• 30:58
  For
• 30:59
  one
• 30:59
  thing,
• 31:00
  it
• 31:00
  became,
• 31:01
  you
• 31:01
  know,
• 31:01
  the
• 31:01
  type
• 31:02
  of
• 31:02
  studio
• 31:02
  contract
• 31:03
  that
• 31:03
  Firesign
• 31:03
  had
• 31:04
  was
• 31:04
  nobody
• 31:04
  else
• 31:05
  had
• 31:05
  that.
• 31:05
  But
• 31:06
  also,
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  think
• 31:06
  the
• 31:07
  KPFK
• 31:07
  element
• 31:08
  is
• 31:08
  really
• 31:08
  key
• 31:09
  as
• 31:09
  well.
• 31:09
  Osman
• 31:10
  said
• 31:10
  to
• 31:10
  me,
• 31:11
  you
• 31:11
  know,
• 31:11
  when
• 31:11
  we
• 31:11
  lost
• 31:11
  our
• 31:12
  radio
• 31:12
  show,
• 31:12
  it
• 31:12
  was
• 31:13
  hard
• 31:13
  because
• 31:13
  we
• 31:13
  couldn't
• 31:13
  keep
• 31:14
  up
• 31:14
  our
• 31:14
  craft.
• 31:15
  He
• 31:15
  was
• 31:15
  saying
• 31:16
  that
• 31:16
  having
• 31:16
  that
• 31:16
  sort
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  weekly
• 31:17
  thing
• 31:17
  where
• 31:18
  you
• 31:18
  were
• 31:18
  on
• 31:19
  your
• 31:19
  toes
• 31:19
  and
• 31:19
  listening
• 31:20
  to
• 31:20
  each
• 31:20
  other
• 31:20
  and
• 31:21
  seeing
• 31:21
  what
• 31:21
  would
• 31:21
  happen,
• 31:21
  that
• 31:22
  was
• 31:22
  also
• 31:22
  really
• 31:22
  important.
• 31:23
  And
• 31:23
  so
• 31:24
  there's
• 31:24
  a
• 31:24
  lot
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  say.
• 31:24
  But
• 31:25
  I
• 31:25
  think
• 31:25
  that
• 31:25
  you
• 31:26
  see
• 31:26
  Firesign
• 31:27
  in
• 31:27
  lots
• 31:27
  of
• 31:27
  places,
• 31:28
  like
• 31:28
  not
• 31:28
  just
• 31:28
  the
• 31:28
  Simpsons,
• 31:29
  but
• 31:29
  Devo's
• 31:30
  Sensibility.
• 31:31
  Negative
• 31:32
  Land
• 31:32
  does
• 31:32
  not
• 31:33
  sound
• 31:33
  like
• 31:33
  Fire
• 31:33
  Sign,
• 31:34
  but
• 31:34
  they
• 31:34
  are.
• 31:35
  They
• 31:35
  are
• 31:35
  definitely
• 31:36
  huge
• 31:36
  fans.
• 31:36
  And
• 31:36
  I'm
• 31:37
  even
• 31:37
  going
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  say,
• 31:37
  although
• 31:37
  it's
• 31:38
  a
• 31:38
  little
• 31:38
  bit
• 31:38
  controversial,
• 31:40
  I
• 31:40
  think
• 31:40
  it
• 31:40
  means
• 31:40
  a
• 31:41
  ton
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  the
• 31:43
  really
• 31:43
  important
• 31:43
  hip
• 31:44
  hop
• 31:44
  Deejays
• 31:45
  from
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  mid-80s
• 31:46
  through
• 31:46
  the
• 31:46
  2000s
• 31:47
  know
• 31:48
  their
• 31:48
  fire
• 31:48
  Sign
• 31:49
  really
• 31:49
  well
• 31:50
  and
• 31:50
  sample
• 31:50
  it
• 31:50
  on
• 31:51
  their
• 31:51
  records.
• 31:51
  And
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  think
• 31:52
  that
• 31:52
  it's
• 31:52
  obviously
• 31:53
  not
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  same
• 31:53
  thing,
• 31:54
  but
• 31:54
  they
• 31:54
  are
• 31:55
  interested
• 31:55
  in
• 31:55
  media
• 31:56
  technology,
• 31:56
  they're
• 31:57
  interested
• 31:57
  in
• 31:57
  history
• 31:58
  because
• 31:58
  they
• 31:58
  listen
• 31:58
  to
• 31:59
  old
• 31:59
  albums
• 31:59
  and
• 32:00
  they
• 32:00
  really
• 32:00
  pay
• 32:00
  attention
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  language
• 32:01
  and
• 32:02
  voice.
• 32:02
  And
• 32:02
  so
• 32:03
  it's
• 32:03
  not
• 32:03
  surprising
• 32:04
  to
• 32:04
  me
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  Fire
• 32:05
  Sign
• 32:05
  Theater
• 32:05
  is.
• 32:06
  Is
• 32:06
  well
• 32:07
  represented
• 32:07
  in
• 32:07
  the
• 32:08
  record
• 32:08
  collections
• 32:08
  of
• 32:08
  Madlib
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  others.
• 32:09
  It's
• 32:10
  as
• 32:10
  if
• 32:10
  Fire
• 32:10
  Sign
• 32:11
  Theater
• 32:11
  fit
• 32:11
  early
• 32:12
  FM
• 32:12
  radio
• 32:13
  like
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  glove.
• 32:13
  And
• 32:14
  there
• 32:14
  was
• 32:14
  never
• 32:14
  a
• 32:15
  medium
• 32:15
  that
• 32:16
  suited
• 32:16
  Fire
• 32:17
  Sign's
• 32:17
  content
• 32:18
  as
• 32:19
  the
• 32:19
  wild
• 32:19
  west
• 32:19
  of
• 32:20
  FM
• 32:20
  radio
• 32:21
  at
• 32:21
  a
• 32:21
  time
• 32:22
  of
• 32:22
  political
• 32:22
  tumult.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:23
  it
• 32:24
  was
• 32:24
  just
• 32:24
  so
• 32:24
  relevant
• 32:25
  doing
• 32:25
  live
• 32:25
  radio.
• 32:26
  There's
• 32:26
  nothing
• 32:26
  better
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  keep
• 32:27
  you
• 32:27
  sharp.
• 32:28
  We
• 32:28
  were
• 32:28
  more
• 32:28
  like
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  six
• 32:29
  fingered
• 32:30
  glove.
• 32:30
  Right?
• 32:31
  But
• 32:31
  Jeremy
• 32:33
  Braddock,
• 32:33
  thank
• 32:33
  you
• 32:33
  so
• 32:34
  much.
• 32:34
  This
• 32:34
  has
• 32:34
  really
• 32:35
  been
• 32:35
  fascinating
• 32:35
  to
• 32:36
  put
• 32:36
  Firesign
• 32:37
  under
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  microscope.
• 32:38
  It's
• 32:38
  my
• 32:38
  pleasure.
• 32:39
  Anytime
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  get
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  talk
• 32:40
  to
• 32:40
  Phil,
• 32:40
  it's
• 32:41
  a
• 32:41
  great
• 32:41
  day.
• 32:41
  Listen
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  the
• 32:42
  record.
• 32:42
  Everything's
• 32:43
  on
• 32:43
  YouTube
• 32:43
  now.
• 32:44
  Every
• 32:44
  Columbia
• 32:45
  record
• 32:45
  is
• 32:45
  on
• 32:45
  all
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  streaming
• 32:46
  services.
• 32:47
  "I
• 32:47
  Think
• 32:47
  We're
• 32:47
  All
• 32:48
  Bozos
• 32:48
  On
• 32:48
  this
• 32:49
  Bus"
• 32:49
  was
• 32:49
  a
• 32:50
  favorite
• 32:50
  album
• 32:51
  of
• 32:51
  Steve
• 32:52
  Jobs
• 32:53
  and
• 32:53
  for
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  long
• 32:54
  time
• 32:54
  he
• 32:54
  had
• 32:55
  an
• 32:55
  Easter
• 32:55
  egg.
• 32:56
  If
• 32:56
  you
• 32:56
  said
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  Siri,
• 32:57
  this
• 32:57
  is
• 32:57
  workers
• 32:57
  speaking.
• 32:58
  Hello.
• 32:59
  She
• 32:59
  would
• 33:00
  say,
• 33:00
  hello.
• 33:00
  Ah-Clem.
• 33:01
  What
• 33:01
  service
• 33:02
  can
• 33:02
  I
• 33:02
  perform
• 33:03
  for
• 33:03
  you?
• 33:03
  Lol.
• 33:04
  Because
• 33:04
  I
• 33:05
  played
• 33:05
  this
• 33:05
  hacker
• 33:06
  named
• 33:07
  Clem
• 33:08
  and
• 33:08
  I
• 33:09
  hacked
• 33:09
  into
• 33:09
  the
• 33:09
  system
• 33:10
  by
• 33:11
  saying,
• 33:11
  this
• 33:11
  is
• 33:11
  workers
• 33:12
  speaking.
• 33:12
  Hello.
• 33:13
  And
• 33:13
  the
• 33:13
  computer.
• 33:14
  Dr.
• 33:15
  Memory.
• 33:15
  Direct
• 33:15
  readout
• 33:16
  Memory
• 33:16
  responded.
• 33:17
  Please
• 33:17
  state
• 33:18
  your
• 33:18
  name.
• 33:19
  Oh.
• 33:20
  Oh.
• 33:20
  Do
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  want
• 33:21
  me
• 33:21
  to.
• 33:21
  Please
• 33:21
  state
• 33:21
  your
• 33:21
  first
• 33:22
  name.
• 33:23
  Ah-Clem.
• 33:24
  Thank
• 33:25
  you.
• 33:27
  Mr.
• 33:28
  President,
• 33:28
  I'd
• 33:29
  like
• 33:29
  to
• 33:29
  introduce
• 33:30
  you
• 33:30
  to
• 33:30
  Ah-Clem.
• 33:31
  Hello.
• 33:33
  Always
• 33:33
  nice
• 33:34
  to
• 33:34
  see
• 33:34
  you.
• 33:34
  Now,
• 33:35
  Ah-Clem,
• 33:35
  you
• 33:36
  know
• 33:36
  the
• 33:37
  springhead
• 33:38
  of
• 33:38
  this
• 33:38
  country.
• 33:38
  All
• 33:39
  right,
• 33:39
  stop.
• 33:39
  Mr.
• 33:39
  President.
• 33:40
  Mr.
• 33:40
  President,
• 33:40
  stop,
• 33:41
  please.
• 33:41
  Now
• 33:42
  listen
• 33:42
  to
• 33:42
  me.
• 33:42
  This
• 33:43
  is
• 33:43
  worker
• 33:44
  speaking.
• 33:45
  Hello.
• 33:45
  Hello.
• 33:46
  How
• 33:46
  are
• 33:47
  you?
• 33:47
  State
• 33:48
  maintenance.
• 33:49
  Question.
• 33:50
  Fine,
• 33:50
  thanks.
• 33:51
  No.
• 33:51
  And
• 33:51
  that's
• 33:52
  how
• 33:52
  much
• 33:52
  Steve
• 33:52
  Jobs
• 33:53
  was
• 33:53
  influenced.
• 33:54
  He
• 33:54
  was
• 33:54
  really
• 33:54
  a
• 33:54
  fan.
• 33:55
  We
• 33:55
  came
• 33:55
  across
• 33:56
  some
• 33:56
  pictures
• 33:57
  of
• 33:57
  him
• 33:57
  at
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  record
• 33:58
  signing
• 33:59
  we
• 33:59
  did
• 33:59
  in
• 33:59
  Berkeley
• 34:00
  with
• 34:00
  his
• 34:00
  arm
• 34:00
  around
• 34:01
  us,
• 34:01
  and
• 34:02
  he
• 34:02
  was
• 34:02
  sincerely
• 34:03
  a
• 34:03
  fan.
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  Thank
• 34:04
  you
• 34:05
  to
• 34:05
  all
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  the
• 34:05
  members
• 34:06
  of
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  Firesign
• 34:06
  Theatre
• 34:07
  for
• 34:08
  everything
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  did
• 34:08
  for
• 34:09
  our
• 34:09
  culture
• 34:09
  and
• 34:09
  our
• 34:09
  upbringing.
• 34:10
  Thank
• 34:10
  you,
• 34:10
  Jeremy.
• 34:11
  Thank
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  for
• 34:11
  drawing
• 34:12
  attention
• 34:12
  to
• 34:12
  it
• 34:13
  and
• 34:13
  pulling
• 34:14
  the
• 34:14
  veil
• 34:14
  off
• 34:15
  of
• 34:15
  some
• 34:15
  of
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  mystery
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  was
• 34:16
  involved
• 34:17
  in
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  creation.
• 34:18
  Jeremy
• 34:18
  Braddock,
• 34:19
  professor
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  Literature
• 34:20
  in
• 34:20
  English
• 34:21
  at
• 34:21
  Cornell
• 34:21
  University
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  author
• 34:22
  of
• 34:23
  Firesign-
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  Electromagnetic
• 34:24
  History
• 34:24
  of
• 34:25
  Everything
• 34:25
  as
• 34:25
  Told
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  on
• 34:26
  Nine
• 34:26
  Comedy
• 34:27
  Albums.
• 34:27
  A
• 34:27
  fascinating
• 34:28
  book
• 34:28
  about
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  history
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  of
• 34:29
  fireFiresignsign
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  anditsreflectionoftheculture.Jeremy,thankyou
• 34:32
  so
• 34:32
  much
• 34:32
  for
• 34:32
  joining
• 34:33
  us.
• 34:33
  Thank
• 34:33
  you.
• 34:34
  Keep
• 34:34
  them
• 34:34
  flying.
• 34:34
  You
• 34:35
  bet.
• 34:35
  I'm
• 34:36
  Ted
• 34:36
  Bonnitt.
• 34:36
  I'm
• 34:37
  Phil
• 34:37
  Proctor.
• 34:38
  We'll
• 34:38
  see
• 34:38
  you
• 34:38
  next
• 34:38
  week.
• 34:39
  Thank
• 34:39
  you
• 34:39
  so
• 34:39
  much.