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S5 E13: Anxiety Awaits · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see your breath.
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  Speaker 1: Out in the lake effect.
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  Speaker 2: Breacon tables like getar tree here? Wherese would you have
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  Speaker 2: to be? And do ron Elvis in the lay Pancho
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  Speaker 2: the members that you need to know?
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  Speaker 1: I sut you out here.
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  Speaker 2: Now, your family?
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  Speaker 1: Where's would you have to be?
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  Speaker 2: Where else would you have be?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippen. Please like us on Facebook and follow us
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode,
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  Speaker 1: along with all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen
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  Speaker 1: Legacy Entertainment here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so
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  Speaker 1: glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: bills and NFL content again today and as always, these
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  Speaker 1: are my Bill's thoughts set out loud. He survives so
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous two stort eighty three or six?
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  Speaker 2: The show connect? Where's what you want to be?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get straight to it. Really really excited
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  Speaker 1: for tonight's episode. I am my fearless co host? Is
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  Speaker 1: is busy tonight? DT sends his regards shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Granny Repsick and to his sister Merredith. They shared birthdays
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  Speaker 1: one hundred years old for granny and his sister. So
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  Speaker 1: he's he's got stuff to do tonight, got other obligations.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. The show must go on. I tell you, man,
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  Speaker 1: we are right around the corner from the season. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason that I named the episode that I did.
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  Speaker 1: You already know nicol City Crew, Bill's Mafia, our loyal
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  Speaker 1: listeners know. Man. I get nervous, I get anxious. I
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit of an anxiety before the season starts.
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  Speaker 1: The reason is for the same reason that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us go through it. Man, I mean I want
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  Speaker 1: to parade badly, just like the rest of Bill's Mafia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not unique with that. One of the most long
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  Speaker 1: suffering franchises in sports history. And if you talk about
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, I can't name too many other franchises that
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  Speaker 1: have been through it more than us. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you could say Cleveland. I guess you could say Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: but we're like all on the same tier. And then
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  Speaker 1: maybe you have Minnesota, who I know lost four Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowls as well below us. But man, we deserve it
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  Speaker 1: as a fan base. We deserve it as the Mafia.
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  Speaker 1: And when the season gets as close as it is,
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  Speaker 1: coming up on a week away this Sunday. It's like, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily in a pessimistic mood, but I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a mood where I just want it so bad that
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  Speaker 1: I can taste it, and I just start thinking about
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  Speaker 1: all the different variables joining me tonight. I need a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of help. Listen, Man, I love Twitter. DT
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  Speaker 1: gets a kick out of that because I was never
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  Speaker 1: a social media guy or anything like that, but boy
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  Speaker 1: do I love Twitter. I love like arguing with people,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess that's just part of my nature. This
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  Speaker 1: is public enemy number one for Nickel City Crew. For me,
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  Speaker 1: just my my journey on Twitter and as I started
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  Speaker 1: to grow in Twitter and and just engaging with the
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  Speaker 1: fans and other members of the Mafia and other Fani
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  Speaker 1: bases as well. Man, there's nobody above this cat right here.
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  Speaker 1: Man joining us tonight, my special guest Hollow at the
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  Speaker 1: Crew all the way from Jersey, my man Widdle. You
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  Speaker 1: could check them out on Instagram and Twitter at Whittle
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  Speaker 1: two K little Man Hollow at the Crew, Man, Welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: I was on your show Coupled last month. Man, you
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  Speaker 1: showed me love. I had to return the favor. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, Thank you, and shout out to
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  Speaker 2: the Nickel City crew. You know, we're all family here.
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  Speaker 2: We all want the same thing at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day. We may disagree about the best the best
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  Speaker 2: path to get there, but ultimately I think we all
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  Speaker 2: want to see the Bills.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills be successful. Absolutely yeah, you're absolutely right. And
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  Speaker 1: it's funny because I was never you know, I tell
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  Speaker 1: my peoples, and my peoples know me widow. I was
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  Speaker 1: never a social media guy and a Twitter guy. But
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  Speaker 1: when I met you, boy, I met my match and
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  Speaker 1: could we go back and forth and box like like
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  Speaker 1: Ali and listen, And I really have enjoyed it because
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  Speaker 1: you are a smart football fan and you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: you do care about it a lot, and you understand
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  Speaker 1: the actual game. And that's what I respect about your
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  Speaker 1: most and your takes is because you understand the game.
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  Speaker 1: As we take a tonight, we're going to take a
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  Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view, as we are on the eve
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  Speaker 1: of the season coming up with I wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: about defense offense. We could get to special teams if
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  Speaker 1: we need to. I know there's some rumblings about Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Bass and some things that we're worried about or may
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  Speaker 1: be worried about. But listen, you already know I'm a McDermott.
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  Speaker 1: You know I'll say it. I'm a McDermott hater. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not with it. I haven't been with it since thirteen seconds.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't even lie to my audience. They already
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  Speaker 1: know me. They'll pull my card. Got to be true
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  Speaker 1: to the brand. When we look at the defensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. One of the things that over the
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  Speaker 1: offseason you and I disagreed about pretty contentiously was that
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  Speaker 1: I felt like Brandon Bean had loaded this guy up
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott in his defense in the past and made
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  Speaker 1: different runs at it this year. You can't even deny it.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it was a concerted effort through free agency the
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  Speaker 1: draft to make sure that McDermott had everything at his
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  Speaker 1: disposal that he needed. I'm wondering what you think about
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  Speaker 1: does he have the right mix of players, because I
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  Speaker 1: know one of the things that we all met coming
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  Speaker 1: out of that Kansas City game last years that we
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  Speaker 1: just didn't we didn't have the horses, and I know
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  Speaker 1: injuries played a part, but we just didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: blue chips.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean obviously, you know the Bills are
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  Speaker 2: fallen short multiple years to pretty much the same team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been four losses. I mean, we got
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  Speaker 2: this thing in Buffalo with fours, you know, four super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: four losses to the Chiefs. James Cook was the toughest
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  Speaker 2: free agent Brandon Bean has had. He wears number four.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, I think we just got
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  Speaker 2: this thing before's But I do believe that the drought
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  Speaker 2: Breaker war number five. This is probably the fifth time
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna see Kansas City an the playoffs. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna ride with the superstition man, the drought Breaker, tar
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  Speaker 2: Rod Taylor one number five. I think the fifth time
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  Speaker 2: is the charm. We're gonna take Kansas City out. But
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  Speaker 2: to the conversation about this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: So over the over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last couple of years, I've been very heavily
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  Speaker 2: invested in the draft, and there were a couple of
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  Speaker 2: players that I wanted the Buffalo Bills to take. The
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  Speaker 2: first one was Brian Branch. Actually the first one was
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  Speaker 2: Terrek Willard. That was the first defensive guy, saying the
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  Speaker 2: Bill should take Arrek Willard. We ended up taking in
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  Speaker 2: kye Elam. In that draft, Willen ends up being a
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  Speaker 2: better player. I wanted to take Brian Branch, he ended
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  Speaker 2: up taking dalncan Cave. I think dounky Ka's a fine player.
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  Speaker 2: I think Brian Branch is a bit better. He's a
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  Speaker 2: better player, and he fits a need that the Bills have.
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  Speaker 2: We've been looking for that, Mike I have replacement since Michael
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  Speaker 2: Hove retired, so we were I mean since he left.
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  Speaker 2: So we've been looking for for that replace. We still
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  Speaker 2: just we still haven't found it. And you know, and
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  Speaker 2: then last year I wanted the Bills to take Dion Walker.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted them to draft Dion Walker. The first time
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  Speaker 2: I saw this young man, I said to myself, we
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  Speaker 2: don't have that. We don't have that. Josh Allen on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive side of the football, right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the Jamesons, Malmes, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know Burrow, Burrow's got his weapons. Lamar is you know,
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  Speaker 2: Lamar does his thing, but on the opposite side, like
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  Speaker 2: Lamar's had rope wand Smith. And then for a year
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  Speaker 2: Justin Madam Pek was a dog. Now he's got Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Hamilton like he's always had those guys. And then with
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs, you you had John Ron Matthew. At first
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  Speaker 2: you got Chris Jones. Now Nick Bolton played a big
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  Speaker 2: role in the Super Bowl recovering that ball from the
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  Speaker 2: Eagle and running it back.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so Trip McDuffie like he's had guys that
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  Speaker 2: are different makers, and even bigger than Trip mcduffy. I
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  Speaker 2: would say, lujerryus sneid who you just put Sneid on
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  Speaker 2: whoever the other team's best receiver is and you walk
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  Speaker 2: away from that guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's that he was clamping people.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, the Bills need to get those type
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  Speaker 2: of players on the defensive sidid we don't have that
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  Speaker 2: difference maker right and I think Christian Benford's really good.
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  Speaker 2: Milano could Milino's been a difference maker, but Milona's been
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  Speaker 2: injured from all Pro. Yeah, definitely all Pro exactly. Bernard
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  Speaker 2: I think has that potential, but again injuries as well,
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  Speaker 2: and we just haven't seen to have one up front.
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  Speaker 2: We have Von Miller, you know, first year we got
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  Speaker 2: him eight and a half sacks in like ten games.
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  Speaker 1: And really work out it is working.
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  Speaker 2: Dam was working and you know, we were on our way.
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  Speaker 2: He goes down Dion Walker six for seven, two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty pounds, and he's got the feet of a linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, like, you can't teach that type of size,
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  Speaker 2: and you can't teach like a man that big, And
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  Speaker 2: that's what the coaches have been saying. A man that
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  Speaker 2: big shouldn't move as well as he thoes. So I
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  Speaker 2: think I think over time, maybe over over this season,
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  Speaker 2: maybe next seasons, will you'll see a guy like Dion
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  Speaker 2: Walker hopefully go into his own and be that Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen on the defensive side that we can depend on
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  Speaker 2: it the fourth quarter were three minutes ago to just
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  Speaker 2: make a play and you're just like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe he did that. We're gonna win this
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  Speaker 2: game because of that play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because you know, I saw some
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  Speaker 1: of his tape obviously from the preseason game against the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Giants. Cy's blowing shit up and things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and you know, I enjoyed seeing it. I
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  Speaker 1: know that you know, he had a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a back issue at Kentucky. That's why some of the
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  Speaker 1: productions slipped. And then that's why he slips in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you follow it closer than I do.
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  Speaker 1: For twenty twenty five, specifically, when you talk about that
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  Speaker 1: defensive line that Brandon Bean has now brought in for McDermott,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I look at it, and I said it
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  Speaker 1: last week that I'm looking for the baby. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking for the baby. I'm looking for the proof that
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  Speaker 1: this is a good plan. You know, you already know me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all these offense, offense, offense, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: keep the pot in the gas. But when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the defense and playoff time, we've had some some
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  Speaker 1: shortcomings and obviously injuries play a part in it. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that's one of your big, you know, selling
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  Speaker 1: points on that on that point. But McDermott has been
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  Speaker 1: supplied now with a rotation that's heavy. It seems to
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  Speaker 1: be the consensus seems to be that it looks like
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  Speaker 1: the depth might be better than in last year's depth.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to from just so all
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  Speaker 1: the way on down. So if you, if you can
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  Speaker 1: grant me that widdle, then what I would ask you
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  Speaker 1: is that what is it for you that you need
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  Speaker 1: to see? Because I had heard somebody. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was Ben, so let come on right at the end
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  Speaker 1: of training camp and I talked about it on your
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  Speaker 1: space on Twitter, like how he had said that McDermott
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  Speaker 1: really doesn't throw curveballs, he doesn't throw change ups. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to do what he does. He's relying on his system, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: But don't break to the football being you know, sound
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  Speaker 1: in your fundamentals. You hear that all the time from him.
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  Speaker 1: What are there anything that you're going to be looking
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  Speaker 1: for aggressiveness wise or anything like that throughout the regular
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  Speaker 1: season that can give you clues to the postseason because
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  Speaker 1: obviously we're all gonna be waiting on the postseason to
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  Speaker 1: see how we match up with those upper echelan teams.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always going to be leery of them until I
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  Speaker 1: see him do it in the playoffs and have a
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  Speaker 1: great performance. I know he had a great performance against
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  Speaker 1: Lamar that one year during the COVID year. Other than that,
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  Speaker 1: his defense has been shredded. They really have.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So my response to that is the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three season, right, So if we go back to the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, we had Jordan Poyer, who clearly
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  Speaker 2: had lost you know two steps. At that point, Toronto
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  Speaker 2: was heard. You know, we lost ain Kwan Jones for
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  Speaker 2: the majority of the season, Trey White, who looked like
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  Speaker 2: he was back to you know, being Trey White in
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  Speaker 2: the first four games. Then then we go to Miami
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  Speaker 2: and then we lose him for you know, the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the year with with an achilles. So I look
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  Speaker 2: back at that season, I say, you know, when McDermott
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  Speaker 2: decided to take over. As that year went along, you
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  Speaker 2: saw them get way more aggressive. You saw them, you know,
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  Speaker 2: blitz a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: You saw them run.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you saw them run a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: when it came to stunts and you know, relying a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more on the slot, and you know, even
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  Speaker 2: even the back seven and you know in general like
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  Speaker 2: as a as a as a unit to provide some
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  Speaker 2: of the pressure on the quarterback. They were you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was blitzing from the corner spot, he was blitzing
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  Speaker 2: from the boundary, he was blitzing from the backers, he
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  Speaker 2: was blitzing from everywhere. The safeties were coming down. I
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  Speaker 2: thought that that was I thought that that was what
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  Speaker 2: was needed. And I also believed that because Rasseul Douglas
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  Speaker 2: was as good as he was in twenty three, and
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  Speaker 2: you also had Benford, and you had Tarren Johnson who
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  Speaker 2: still was, you know, pretty spry. You could afford to
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  Speaker 2: do it because you trusted those guys behind them. You
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  Speaker 2: trusted those guys to hold up their rents, so you
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  Speaker 2: could be a little more exotic. I just think McDermott
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  Speaker 2: rarely has had the pieces to be exotic, and I
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  Speaker 2: think this year you have a balance, a really nice
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  Speaker 2: balance of you know, Russeau is a big guy, and
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  Speaker 2: then Bosh is a big guy, but he's got a
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  Speaker 2: lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Ben than Russeau does.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have a guy like Solomon and AJMP
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  Speaker 2: and that's who are vastly different players, but both are
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  Speaker 2: effective at you know, putting a little you know, when
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  Speaker 2: they get an opportunity putting pressure on the quarterback. Then
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  Speaker 2: at the defensive, you know, inside you got Ed Oliver
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  Speaker 2: who's quick and shoots gaps and he wins with speed
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  Speaker 2: and athleticism, and he's still strong enough to make plays
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  Speaker 2: one on one. They accompany him with their company that
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  Speaker 2: you know him and Dae Kwon Jones with like we
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  Speaker 2: talked about earlier day, Dion Walker, who was I mean
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  Speaker 2: a giant with with Vallerina feat and then you have TJ. Sanders,
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  Speaker 2: who gets ready for the games listening to the NBA
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  Speaker 2: young boy, and you know he's a violent, violent pass rusher,
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  Speaker 2: very good against the run, and you saw that when
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  Speaker 2: he was in South Carolina. I think when you have
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  Speaker 2: all of those things up front, you still have the
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  Speaker 2: coverage of Milano, Terrell Bernard, and then I think Shaq
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  Speaker 2: Thompson is an underrated addition to this team because like
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  Speaker 2: the other two guys, I do because much like the
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  Speaker 2: other two guys that I named, he's extremely good at coverage,
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  Speaker 2: he's very fast, he's I think he's more violent than Milano,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy because I think Mlonald's a
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  Speaker 2: very violent linebacker, but he's extreme, like Shaq Thompson is
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  Speaker 2: extremely violent. I can't wait to see him in action.
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  Speaker 1: You still got.
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  Speaker 2: Dorian Williams right, and you know Joe Andrees and those
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  Speaker 2: guys are learning. But then in the secondary to ask.
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  Speaker 1: You about the secondary, he's gonna ask you about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I was. I was one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: tail of rap detractors. I didn't want him here. I
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  Speaker 2: was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: He's He's been a lynch beIN.
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  Speaker 2: In that in that back in that back in that
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  Speaker 2: backfield at the say spot. Absolutely, Taron Johnson, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's still a very good football player. I mean, Christian.
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  Speaker 1: Benford is a top ten corner.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't care what ESPN rankings say or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: He's a top ten corner all the metrics backing up.
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  Speaker 2: And when you watch him, you know, play like you
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  Speaker 2: get check the box for whoever he's covering is not
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  Speaker 2: going to have a great day. That's how that goes.
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  Speaker 2: They drafted Maxwell Harrison. That was the guy that I
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  Speaker 2: was very excited about. Now he wasn't my top pick.
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  Speaker 2: Was my top pick with Trey Amos. Okay, I'm good
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  Speaker 2: with Harrison Harrison. He's so fast, he's and that allows
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  Speaker 2: you to cheat. It allows you to cheat like he can.
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  Speaker 2: Really what's once he gets the understanding of the corner
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  Speaker 2: position in the NFL, He's going to date quarterbacks into
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  Speaker 2: throwing balls that they think are open, so rashimers that
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  Speaker 2: they think are open, and he's just gonna make plays
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  Speaker 2: on the football if not take it away.
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  Speaker 1: So I love it.
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  Speaker 2: That strong safety, I mean, the free safety spot is
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  Speaker 2: the one that worries me. Right, cold Bishop, Cold Bishop.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not with you know, I haven't been with him.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't. And one of the things that scares me
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  Speaker 1: the most widdle about him is because of the fact
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: that and we could tie it into this, you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to the Poyer news. It's not necessarily that he got burnt,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you know, in the Houston game, and then I just
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I just wrote him up. Now, I was mad at
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: that play, and I can admit that. But after that,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it took him a long time to finally ramp up
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: in my in my opinion, towards the end of the year,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: guess he was playing some better ball and things like that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: So what I expected was that based on the fact
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that the way that he ended last season, I thought that, listen,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: this is your job. It's handmade to you. We brought
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: back Hamlin as insurance, but this is your job. We're
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: ready to give it to you. And because of that,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: when I'm seeing him make mistakes in the preseason, I understand,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like I just I have a low tolerance for it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that his injury history makes it
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: where every represent is more important. Everything is just heightened.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Everything about you needs to be you know, really really
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: crisp and really really on point, and I just I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen that in the preseason. I know, the preseason
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: pledge stuff like that, We're all supposed to take it,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm not encouraged by what I've seen from him
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: so far and this this beginning of this off season.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: In the preseason, it didn't It just didn't. It didn't
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: quell anything. And then they bring in you know, Jordan
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we could talk about in a second, but I'm not
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a I'm not a believer in Bishop, and I'm hoping
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that it does invite us in the ass. I so.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I am, and I'm because I'm not going to go
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: off of what he did in the preseason, because I
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: mean it's preseason. My lasting impression of Cole Bishop is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: what we saw in the game against Kansas City, and I.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Think he was the best. He was the best. He
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: was the best.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: He was the best guy in secondary on the field
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills that day. So I gotta go
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: with that and and trust that with the rest of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the starters around him. He starts off the season with
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: let me just do enough to not make a mistake,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and then grows into let me let.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Me try to make some plays.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Right Where you're worried about safety, I'm worried about Christian
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Benford hasn't been practicing. Trey White has an injury that
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they've been very cagy about.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm not gonna tell you method. He could be good,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he could be ready to go week one. They're not
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you shit.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I was. I'll be honest. I like Dorian Strong in
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the draft process. Wasn't one of the wasn't one of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the picks that I really wanted, but he had to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: look great either. At corner. I think the best corner
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: outside of the top three. I mean outside of the yeah,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the top three guys Harristein, Benford and uh Tree White,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I think the best corner has been JaMarcus Ingram. Interesting.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I think he's been the best. How would you
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: be that? So would you throw him out there? If
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Trey missus week one? That would be your absolutely? Okay,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: so that week one over? Yes, Jackson on the practice squad.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Now again, yes, I think he's the I think it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: between him, obviously, it's between him and Strong, but I
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: wanted I trust more that Jamarkus has been here, he's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: been in the system. He knows and he's a sound tackler,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: like he doesn't doesn't miss a ton of tackles. And
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: you're playing against you're playing against uh, you know, the Ravens.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: They want to run the football. So you you gotta
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: have a guy out there that's willing to stick his
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: nose in the in the you know, in the muck
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: and and and and get dirty. That's a guy like
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: JaMarcus Angram.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting because you know, if Trey
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: is out. And I think that's one of the false
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: things that and DT brought it up, my co host
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: brought it up last week, was that he was like, listen, man,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I was never expected much out of trade anyway. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that Harriston goes down and then Trey goes down,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: He's like, I can't I can only get so upset
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: about it. I look at it as Zay Flowers. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: understand that Hopkins is on the back end, but you know,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you've got they I mean, Lamar throws the ball, he's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: got some weapons. I don't want it to be a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: situation where they are carving us up or they're picking
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: on I never like it when a quarterback finds that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: matchup on the outside boundary and he's just picking on
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: our corners, kind of like they were doing Elm last
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: year with Mahomes in the AFC Championship game. I mean,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you could tell that Elon wasn't ready for the moment
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and they were just picking on him. I don't want
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to see that Week one to start the season, because
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know, it could show it could turn out that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: this is a big game with AFC, you know, number
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: one seed implications. So I want to get off on
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the right foot. I'm hoping that Trey White is okay.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is, but I don't I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to see JaMarcus Ingram out there with
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to see Dang Jackson out there
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: or even Dorian I mean, what's doing the sixth round pick?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean if he earns, I don't. That's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: what you know. That's how you get ventforit is off
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of meritocracy. But man, I would just feel more comfortable
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: if it was Trey. He knows the system, not too
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: many kinks. But I do like JaMarcus Ingram's his physical tools.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I mean he's long rangy I do, I do like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. That to me is.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: First off, the wide receivers are not the features for
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the pick.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: If they pick a part of matchup and we're stopping
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the run, then they might go to the air.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: But if they stopped, well, if we stopped the run, right,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: we make them one. And you know, the more like
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, like this is a this is a real fact.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: The more Lamar throws, the less likely he is to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: play well or less likely the Ravens are to win.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So I kind of want him throwing the football more.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm probably he had a great year last year.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Listen, Yeah he did. And they also had an eighteen
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: hundred yard rusher in you know, in Derrick Henry. And
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're free, Like I know, the Buffalo
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Bills played Derrick Henry pretty well. Like he's had a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: couple of big games against us, but for the most part,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: we've seen him seven or eight times at this point.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: He's not like too, He's not like two. Yeah, it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: not like two good games against US.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So I mean.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Whatever, I am.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And it's the other thing that Baltimore offensive line they've
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: got solid tackles. I like Roseen Garden and you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Staley's been there for a very long time. He's he's
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a bona fide all pro level tackle and Linda Baum
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: little undersize, but he's still one of the better centers
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. Their guards, though Daniel fle is terrible,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like he has not played well for them, and and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the other guy like it's a mixture of like Andrew Voorhees,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and I want to say Ben Cleveland who hasn't played
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: well either, Like, I think those are the areas that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the Bills can take advantage Rose and gardeners in the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: second year. So he's going to go up against Russe
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: who's going into his fifth and he's going or going
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: up against Bosa or a JP. And that's the like
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I think, I like my guys over Rosen Gardener over
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: over over a sixty minute game. And then when you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: talk about the interior, you got T J. Sanders and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and I like, I like, I like them. He's so violent.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And this is the thing, like I've always said this
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to the to the you know, Bill's my field on
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Twitter in the spaces and stuff like that said, man,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: look I'm tired of these nice guys, man, I want
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a couple of demons out there. Yeah, so they actually,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you know, TJ sings like, oh what do you listen to?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: You yourself ready for a game? You know, he said
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: probing NB A young boy, and I'm like a young boy, like, oh,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: this is Scott perfect. He's perfect. So the combination of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: those guys, I think den Kwan Jones early on is
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be fine because the seasons just starting, he should
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: be fresh. Yeah, d Oliver is who he is. We
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we love a but then you would you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: add Dion Walker and t J. Sanders and god forbid
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: they activate Jordan Phillips who also like Jordan Phillips is
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: he's a very nice guy, but he's a he's a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: monster on the monster.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love our chances. I really really like our chances.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So you so the defense, you feel like you're in
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: great hands. You feel like we're getting ready to see
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a more aggressive look that we heard t you on
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: their shout Out tea Estelle in her Not Your Average
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: podcast in the seven one six with Big Mic, you
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: saw her question and said mc dermott's defense is not
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a bending with no break anymore So you're subscribed to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that same line of thinking that we're getting ready to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: see a more aggressive approach because of the fact that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he finally has the tools to implement some of the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: things that he might have done. You know, Philadelphia under
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the late Jim Johnson and then Carolina under Ron RIVERA. Okay,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I might look.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: At the last, well, Rob, look at the last, look
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: at the last? What force super Bowl teams? The last
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for Super Bowl winners the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Tampa
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers, and the Chiefs and the Los Angeles.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Ran in the range.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald vite VEYA mm hmm, Jalen Carter, Chris Jones.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: You ask any quarterback what type of pressure do you
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: hate the most?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Face the one right in my face.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: At Oliver t j. Sanders, Dion Walker going up against
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Daniel File and whatever they're putting at the other guard spot.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I love. And again, linder Baum is small. He's a smaller.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: He's like six three, like two ninety. He's a center.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: But not just you have faith in McDermott and this
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: unit throughout the regular season leading into the playoffs.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, not the whole, not the whole regular season. No, First,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: what are we doing. We got to listen. Week one
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: is the Ragings. After that, you got the Jets with
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Justin Fields at quarterback. They could have Jerry Rice and
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: receiver and it would matter me because Justin Fields can't
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: throw the football. Week three is uh, Miami, I mean
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Miami and they're in Buffalo.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Correct, Who cares? Like that's a win? Week four the Saints?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Who right? Who's the quarterback? What's up that? Listen? That's listen.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: If you ever, if you haven't challenged me to something
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: bills related and you want to get the numbers involved,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: if you challenge me on that, I'm calling that guy
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: right there, Kevin Masciri. I'm going to d MM and
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: he's gonna and he's gonna get back to me in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: zero point five seconds with some numbers that are gonna
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: be make your heads, man, all right, So you leave
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: me alone because I got that guy in my corner.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: But like, listen, the first six weeks, bro, I'm not
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: worried man, Like I'm really not. Atlanta is probably the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you know Atlanta.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I guess there's.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: The toughest team outside of the Ravens that we have
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to face. So yeah, I'm yeah, stinks. The patrons. Lin
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: stinks we got them week five. I think if we
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: beat the cheap, if we beat the Ravens week one,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: there is no reason this team should not go into
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the bye undefeated.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Wow Wow, as we begin to transition tonight. Tonight's episode
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• 28:22
  Speaker 1: as we transition Whittle, I mean, Kevin just kind of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: got me, you know, he kind of got me going.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I let him feed into me
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: one of the cases when I saw he said old
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: widow versus Rob. Listen, the offense is what we have
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: always argued about, and that is how our relationship, our
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Twitter relationships was formed and bonded as we flipped the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. I think that you already know
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: my approach is that because of my lack of faith
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in McDermott in big game situations before his defense and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: he's a defensive coach, my approaches that I've always wanted
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen to be led by an offensive coordinator. As
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I said, coach. Now, obviously we know Terry P. Goula
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is not fire anybody. We know sabers are a shit show.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: There are a dumpster fire. We already know that. We've
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: talked about that many many times on Nickel City Crew.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So having said that, this is what we have you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and I boxed about. Everybody eats last year, I took
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a I took a not a loss, but I got
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: knocked down. But I'm back up after the standing eight count. Listen,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: this is round two. I have promised Nickel City Crew.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I know you'll listen to every episode. I promised Nickel
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: City Crew. I will shut the fuck up if they
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: do it again with this approach. Now you kind of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: pulled my bag. It was a couple of months ago
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and we was hollering back and forth at each other
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: on your Twitter space and you said, Rob, you are
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: just mad because it doesn't look how you wanted to look.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And I might have I might have, you know, ailid
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: back and bark back as you that that night. But
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: after I signed off and the next days and weeks after,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking about it, I was like, isn't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: an aesthetic? State's right? I said, isn't an aesthetic thing?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Is it just that I don't like how it looks
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and it's not familiar to me. I am always, always
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: so fond of the the Stefan Diggs Josh Allen area,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and you already know that. And I'm and I and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just Brian Dable and what he was doing and now
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball all over the field and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: nineteen passes to start a game one game. I mean
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was. I was with all of it because of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the fact that it doesn't look the way that I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: wanted to look. Last year, I was resisting that it
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: would be able to work. Now we know that it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: able to work. Wido. I'm putting you on the spot. Man,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I I'm standing up. You knocked me down last year.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia, all the everybody eats T shirt riders, y'all
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: knocked me down. I'm standing back up. You've got to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: do it one more time. You gotta knock me down
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one more time. Is this shit getting ready to work again?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Talk to me? Ke Coleman is healthy.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I think we've got a great chance of having two
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: receivers in a thousand yards year. I think Kalf now.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Listen, this is this is this is if Oh my god. Uh.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You know, Joe Brady was telling the truth and said
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that he's going to move. He's not relegating any receiver
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to a certain alignment. He's gonna he said, he said,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: we plan on moving these guys around. And I think
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Khalilshakir on the outside is going to really, really.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Be a problem for somebody, really you think can challenge you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Go back.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: When I first saw Khalilshakir play for the Buffalo Bills,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Like when I watched him over his rookie year and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: he didn't really get a ton of opportunities. And then
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that Miami playoff game, right, they threw them a ball,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: They threw him a deep ball and uh, he didn't
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: catch it or whatever. It might have been intercepted. They
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: because he bobbled it, so he might have just dropped it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: They went back to him and the catch that he
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: made through contact, like acrobatic catch. And I said, this
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: kid could be this kid could be the Stefan days replacement.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And I truly truly believe his hands are more reliable
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the Stefan Diggs's hands. Ever, where I think he's underrated
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: as a route runner. Listen, you pull up the numbers,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: pull up the numbers, pull up the numbers, and pull
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: up the fields. I promise you, Okay, traffic, it doesn't
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: matter contact. The man catches the football, he catches the football,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you throw it. He's if he can
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: get his hands on it. There's a seventy to seventy
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: five percent chance he's gonna come to the football leaping, grabs, sideline,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: diving in traffic, you know, crunched in between guys.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: He catches the football.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: He's an excellent route runner as well. I think he's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: an excellent route runner. And I think I think absolutely,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm standing on that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I'm standing on that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: His hands are ridiculous, ridiculous. Josh Palmer last year ranked
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: eighth in the NFL and UH success rate against man coverage.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So when you get a guy like that, who and
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he and Joshua Palmer is a route technician, like that's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the thing he's not. He's not a blazing he's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a blazing speed guy. He's not you know, super printical.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: We only get up the top three with san Diego.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Why with with with the charges? Why what?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Sometimes sometimes you just
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: need And he's one of those guys where you've been
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: waiting and waiting waiting for him to take that next step.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe he takes it with josh like we like we
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: saw with Gave, like Gave Davids is never gonna look
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: as good anywhere else the way he did with Josh Allen. Right,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you know, like, I mean, that's just sometimes that's what
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a guy needs. A guy needs a force multiplier to
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: play with, and his skill level raises. So I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: josh Palmer is going to have a really good year.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be the the reliable boundary guy
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that Josh Allen has been, that we've been looking for
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: since Emmanuel Sanders left. Like that's when I look at
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: this team, I see Joshua Palmer and Manuel Sanders two
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: point now Stefan Diggs little like I think he's I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think Shakir is as talented.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Play on the outside like like Steph did all he
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: is gonna play in the ouse.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think he is gonna. I think it's gonna be
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: a lot more. I think it's gonna be a lot
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: more because you want to take advantage of it. You
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: want to take advantage of the mismatches, mismatches that you
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: can have. You bring a guy like Shavers in. He
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: canna put Shampans in the slot.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Sere small to play on the ice. So that's what i'may.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Like you think he's like all you think Shakira, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: mean he's like aman Ro Saint Brown. They about the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: same height.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Aren't they six feet six foot?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? What's the five eleven? I'm just I just
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: don't how I think of aman raw as way more
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: explosive than than than Shakira. So that's why I'm I'm
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: always pitching hold of him into the slot. Maybe that's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: maybe that's my mistake then and I'll see something different.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think you should. I think you should look
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: at Shakira as a guy who can function inside and outside.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I think he's a dog bro I mean, I really do.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I hope Brady gives out. Brady gives Bill's fans an
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: opportunity to see that this year.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, if he can stay healthy, what's his ceiling?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You saw what he did when when he was healthy
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs, you saw you saw what he brought
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to the table. Go wash him at Washington. When we
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: play Washing in twenty three. The only receiver that got.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Off was him.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: That's the only one. Nobody else got off of him.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: He was the only guy.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You're more?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Are I like Elijah more?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Listen?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: The talent level we had the number two offensive scoring
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: last year. The talent level of this wide receiver room,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and last year everybody said, we may have we may
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: have a bottom five, bottom five wide receiver group, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: they might have been right. But this year, the talent level,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: like you can't deny the talent levels.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: It's better, it's better than last year. I'm not gonna
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: lie about that. I don't. I don't. I mean, Elijah Moore,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. So Dalton Kink, we're ready, We're you're
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: ready to take center stage? Correct? I mean, I know
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it's everybody eats, but when am I going to get
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the baby on? That draft pick Brandon Bean Joe Brady,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that was that was one of drafting, drafting him. You know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey is gone, but I mean we gotta make
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: We got to make do with what we got. I mean,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: he was who you picked, right, what's up? This should be?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Listen, Josh Talent specifically asks for Keank Goleman. I'm expecting
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: big things from Keon this year. Forty to fifty catches,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: eight eight hundred to more yards. I think he's gonna
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: have more than seven touchdowns. I think he's gonna have
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a very big year.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Very big.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I like Keon a lot, like a lot a lot.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think the maturity is coming together.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I heard somebody talk about intention with his route running
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: this camp, things like that, So you think it's all
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: coming together for him. Yeah, like like.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: He's learning how to use his body to create to
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: create natural separation without like pushing off. Like he doesn't
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: need to push off. He just has to run his
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: route certain ways. And he's been doing that in practices
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and you know, and scrimmage and things like that. I mean,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: obviously we gotta see it. We got to see it
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: when the boats are real on Sundays, right, we got
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to see it then. But I thought he was coming
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: into his own before, you know, he got knocked out
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: of that Miami game. And if he you know, if
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: if what what's been reported by Alex Bradski and many others, right,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you know, and and I've out, you know, one of
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: my one of my guys, one of my one of
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: my friends went to the UH to the to the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: training camp. Yeah, and he sent me probably thirty text
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: messages while he was there. He was like, bro keon
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: is everything you said he is? He's gonna have He's
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: gonna have a thousand yards. I'm like, all right, slow down,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that right right, right, listen, ke
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Keona Lowe. Once he gets the ball in his hands,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: do you remember how they used to use John Brown
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and will run John Brown on you know ten yard
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: ten yard you know comeback route, and you know John
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Brown would step out of bounds before he took a
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: big hit.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Well, now you get the.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Ball in the Keons hand, What corner? What? What? How
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: many corners in the NFL are gonna be able to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: just take him down at six three, two hundred and
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: fifteen bounds?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's that's true. I'm hoping
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: for big things fro Keen because I'm definitely a Kyon
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: fan for sure. I liked his tape at Florida State.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I like that he've had the basketball background, So I'm
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: hoping that he gets it together in respects to you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, I thought that, I talked about it
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: last week. I thought that I think it's intentional that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen has been passing him and feeding him the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: rock in training camp. I think that he's trying to artificially,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you know, get his progression and kind of move it
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: along in respects to building confidence, letting them know, get
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that swag that he knows that he is that dude
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and that he can be that. I am not. I'm
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: still holding my breath on coincaid. I don't. I don't know, really,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about that in that respect. I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not you know, I know that a lot of Bills
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: mafia loves him and he is ready for a breakout
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: of they're expecting a breakout. I'm not going to hold
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: my breath on that personally, but it'll be interesting. You know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: everybody eats. The funny thing that I used to say
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: about it was that, you know, when you talk about
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: everybody eats, it's usually a thing that shitty teams to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: say to kind of mask the fact that they don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: have an elite receiver, an elite pass catching weapon. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: feel like the Bills last year, what they did was
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: they showed I mean Mac Collins leading the team with touchdown.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I mean they showed that Josh Allen can He is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: the tide that can lift all boats. So because of that,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: if you give him, you know, up some better boats,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: then maybe we can go ahead on and do something
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: really special. So we'll see on that. Now. In the backfield,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: James Cook, you know, gets his bag, and we were
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: excited about that because I thought that he deserved it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I thought he at least deserved Rais. And my main
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: thing was that I wanted positive vibes for the season.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted everything in the locker room to just be positive.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't want him to be the scrundled Noah doesn't
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: mean that he's not going to try for a third
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: down run. Noah doesn't mean he's gonna duck out of
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: bounds all the time or anything like that necessarily, but
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'd already been down that. We have already been down
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: that road. Bill's Bofield with Stefan Gilmour and stuff like that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And is he making business decisions after the game? Stuff
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: like that? You're questioning those things. I wanted positive vibes.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that Cook is back, regardless of what you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: feel about the contract, How do you feel about the fit?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Because I think that he is just a perfect compliment
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to Josh Allen in this offensive line.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I love it, and uh, you know, every Batman needs
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: a Robin and I don't want to like pick a hole.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Cook is like some sort of sidekick because I think
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: he's capable. We've seen him carry this offense when the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: offense has been struggling. You know again, I'm gonna go
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty three against the Cowboys. I think
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen threw the ball like twelve times, twelve or
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: fourteen times that game, and Cook like literally destroyed the
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Cook destroyed the Miami Dolphins last year. I
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: think that was like Week two. He had like three
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: touchdowns or something like that. One in the air and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: a couple on the ground. And he's and he's the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he's a threat of a house call every time he
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: touches the ball. One thing I loved about Devin Singletary.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: You know, we call him Motor.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: One thing I loved about Motor was he could make
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you mintion a phone bove. He was so shifty when
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: once he got the ball in his hands and he
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: got out of space. He just didn't have that like
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: turbo pack. But James Cook is every bit is shifting,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: and he's a better receiver, and he's got the turbo pack, right,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: he hasn't, so I mean, I just think it's it's
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: so dangerous when you have that type of home run
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: threat next to Josh Allen, who by himself is a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: home run threat. And then you have receivers who you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: who are reliable like Keon's Keon. What if Keon's trait
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: like better traits is his hands and the same thing
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: with Shakir. You know, Dawson Knox makes great acrobatic catches
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: over his tenure here, and Josh Allen's got a great
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: rapport with him. You know, I'm expecting Tyrrel Shavers to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: play a role this year as well, with him, you know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: finally making the fifty three, and when he gets the opportunity,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I expect him to uh to to play well. Curtis Shaman,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: We've seen what he can do when he's healthy, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: you know, all of these guys Todd Johnson, like we've
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: got tons of weapons, so like I expect this offense
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to be top three again, Like why wouldn't it be?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Well, well, thank you for giving me my perfect segue
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: as we begin to wrap up tonight, because it's been
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: probably the thing that I've been standing on the hill
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the highest. After I've got a kick, I got it,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I got at least be quiet about everybody eats, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I gotta let it play out for another year. The
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: one thing that I have shouted to all of Bills
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Bafia and I have reminded them here right here on
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Nichols City Crew. Our listeners know. Listen, the turnover battle
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: both ways. That's that's offense and defense was a factor.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I think that the defense getting the ball back for
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the offense in short fields for some of the reasons
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: why you can boast and Brandon Bean can come on
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: w g R and talk shit and say we you know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: we scored thirty points a game. I understand the stat However,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that stat is eight by the fact that you had
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, third in the legal with over thirty,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and then you had some short fields to go along
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: with that. That's how that Miami game gets out of hand.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: That's how that Jacksonville Get God game gets out of hand. Wittle.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if you are and you are logical,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: because that's why I brought you on the show, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: that's why I love going back and forth with you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: when we argue. If you and I can agree and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: tell Bill's Mafia that it is safe to say that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: we should not expect on the offensive side of the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: football to have eight turnovers in the seventeen game season.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Will you extend me that that leeway to at least
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: admonish the Bills Mafia, Nicol City crew, Coast to coast audience.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Can we at least tell our audiences that we should
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: not expect eight turnovers? It was historically low bills Mafia,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Please do not let anybody lie to you on these
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: spaces and tell you that this is something that is easily,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you know, being able to be replicated. Eight turnovers for
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the entire seventeen game season. I think we lost three
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: fumbles all season. In the playoffs, Josh bubbled four times
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: in one game against Kansas City. We got them all back.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: The ball is oblong, wittle. Will you go with me
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: on that limb? Can we at least tell the fans
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: that they should not expect eight turnovers in an entire season?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That I mean that has to change, right and come
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: back to the me correct? Yes? No, are you with me?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Come on? I want you to be now. I want
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you to be authentic, because if you think.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, I am, I am, this is year. This is
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the second full year of everybody's system. Everybody right, better
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: talent and wide receiver right, better route running, you know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: more reliable receivers, offensive line still good, brought back everybody,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the talent, the secondary. Yes, I do think that they
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: can take more chances this year. The Bills will take
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: more chances this year offensively, and that means that turnovers.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I think that they may have more turnovers.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: They may have.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: No I'm to have. I'm expecting them to turn the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: ball over more. I'm expecting them to turn the ball
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: over around twelve to fifteen times as an offense like.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: A Marble team would. Yes, of course. But but.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: If these wide receivers, if these wi Lo listen, you
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: gotta hear me out on this. If these wide receivers
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: are as advertised, okay, and Dogkin Kate takes a step forward, okay.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen may have less interception did he have last year.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: It's it's possible, because would you ever think that Lamar
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Jackson would throw for as many touchdowns as he threw
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: four and only have four interceptions. I've never thought Lamar
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: would have.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you wanted to talk about them in the episode.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I give him credit because I think he's a good passer.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Now I think his game, but you don't.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Who do you think is the better passion?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen Allen is, but that doesn't have Sometimes the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: line sometimes, I mean sometimes there's pressure in your face. Sometimes,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I mean just we shouldn't expect it, like eight turn
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying expected.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying expected, but it coun teeter either way.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: We agree with that because the facts eight or less.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Again, hell no, let's look at the list.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Let's look at the factors based on the facts that
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: you presented.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You ready, Yes, sure that it's random sometimes, Yes.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Who's the better passion Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Of course, Josh Allen. Who's got a better offensive line?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Yes, the.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Offensive coordinator, the offensive coordinator.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Between the two, they've been near the same amount of time, correct, Yes,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Todd monkn just started the same year Brady did. Okay,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: all right, what does that have to do with the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: wide receiver running the wrong route or they not being
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: on the same page? And and I mean, I just
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: think turnovers are way more random and have a bit
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: of luck to them that a lot of fans, and
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: that's NFL fans don't always like to attribute to They
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: want to think that their team is buttoned up and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: we're doing things the right way. And who can I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: blame on this play? You know this play. I can
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: blame the guard he missed his block. I can blame
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver he rang the wrong route. I can
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: blame someone. Sometimes the shit is just random, and I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just think that we should
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: not expect eight turnovers or less. I think we got
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: timely lucky.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that the Bills will
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: turn it over more this year. But if they didn't
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and they turned it over less, it wouldn't surprise me,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: even because the offensive line for the Bills has been
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: so good and Josh is so good at avoiding pressure.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: James took his paid Ray Davis is in year two.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Todd Johnson. They brought him back because of what he
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: can do as a receiver and a pass protector. The
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: tight ends right now are healthy. I think we've upgraded
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: a tight end three with the with the young man
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: hars that we brought in over over Quit Morris.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I mean game, but he's a blocker.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: So now so now instead of having six offensive linemen,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: you can have two tight ends and five offensive line
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: That that that creates another that creates another wrinkle where
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: you can leak the tight end. Now you can leak
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: leaked tight end two out for a little, for a
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: little easy you know, over the top pass when they
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: committed to the run and and you and you open
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: yourself up to big plays with with with a lot.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Less uh risk.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you mitigate your risk by being more multiple,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: by raising a level of talent. We scored thirty a
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: game with what we had last year. I mean, these
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: guys are better. This is a better team than what
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: we had last year. And we're gonna get to the past,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: And on the side of the ball, we took the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: ball away a hell of a ton two that can't
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, now, you had a stat for me about
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Sean McDermott in the defenses, so give it to my
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  Speaker 1: audience because we thought about that time. I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills have been top five the ball away.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: The Bills have been top five, and the Bill's defense
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  Speaker 2: has been top five and takeaways for the last I
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  Speaker 2: think three or four years top five. With every year
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: mcdermot's defense takes the ball away in like twenty seven
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: times are better every single year. That does not change.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter you change the personnel injuries, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys still take the ball away because they're coached too.
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  Speaker 2: Every time you see Poortyer going for a tackle, he's
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: trying to punch at the football. Terry Johnson punching at
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: the football, Bernard punching at the football. Like we saw
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  Speaker 2: it in the divisional game last year, the divisional against
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Ry she Rice punched at the football. Been
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  Speaker 2: for no, no, no, I'm sorry. That was the That
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the division game, that was the regular season game.
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  Speaker 2: Punches the football, took the ball away from where she
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  Speaker 2: Rice like, that's their coach to do this stuff. Now
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  Speaker 2: you're now you've added a guy like Bosa who can
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: get to the quarterback. And now you have you have bigger, better, younger,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: more athletic, hungrier guys at defensive facle who are going
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: to get after the quarterback. You don't think they're going
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to be swiping at the football. They brought Ryan Nielsen
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  Speaker 2: in for a reason. Go look at what Ryan Nielsen
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  Speaker 2: did with that with that New Orleans defense, that defensive
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: line with New Orleans like go look, go look at
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  Speaker 2: those numbers when he was when he was down there, coaching.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they were, they were one of the best.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: They were one of the best defensive lines in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting. Listen. I don't even know if my audience
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: is used to this much optimism when it comes to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the bubble of bills. Widom is feeling good about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to rain on his rate
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  Speaker 1: at all. Listen tonight. I really appreciate you guys. You
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  Speaker 1: know joining in tonight. It's a t G. I have Friday.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: You could be doing anything with your Friday nights, and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: we we really appreciate it. Listen. I'm gonna give you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a chance to plug it. Listen with a short notice.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I know we've tried to link up a couple of
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: weeks ago and then made it happen for this week,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: but listen, Plug your stuff. This is the co host
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: of the Coast to Coast podcast Plug Your Joint. Man,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: shout out to be on seven one six man. Plug
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: your stuff, Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it, man, appreciate it. You can find me
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on socials, Instagram. I'm not I'm not on there as
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: much as I should be, but I'm on Instagram, I'm
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, Whittle two k w H I t t
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: l E the number two to letter K Coast to
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Coast podcast. We're on YouTube. You can find the links
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: to the podcast on my Twitter profile. We're on YouTube
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: every Wednesday night at like nine, like nine pm, we
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: go live. What we try to do there was we
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: bring we bring the other thirty one teams to the Buffalo,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: those fan base.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We bring representatives from those.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Other teams in and we try to get and we
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: try to make sure that we have a working knowledge
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: from the other side of what the other team is
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: good at, is great at, so that we were so
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: we have it more educated fan base. We don't, you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: just think that our team's the greatest and nobody else's
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: got anything on us. You know, these other teams are
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: good to they have fans too, and let's learn. Let's
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: let's learn about the other teams as well. So we're
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: more educated football fan base.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And I think that I don't think I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: know that. That's the number one thing that I appreciate
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: about your text. As much as we used to argue,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I mean we still do. We go back and forth
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: on the spaces and and on Twitter. But one of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the things that I definitely respect about you again, you
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: know your ball. You're not hyperbolic in respect to you
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: know your takes and things like that that they're always
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: well thought out in respects to how you feel about
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the way that you feel. And listen, We're all able
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: to have our own opinions. That's what makes being a
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: fan fun is that you have your own opinion. How
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: can the team improve different things like that. That's literally
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the impetus and the origin of why I started a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Nickel City Crew. I would talk to myself in my
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: head about the bills and what they could do different,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I got to stop talking to myself.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I got to get these bills thoughts, you know, out
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: there in the ether. So I'm really really excited. I
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: really appreciate your time tonight. I know again it's a
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: TGI or Friday, so I appreciate you taking time out
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: of your schedule. Listen, Nickel City Crew, DT and I
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: will be back next week. We've got it ready for you.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Queen City Vintage. They'll be sponsoring our
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: giveaways again this year. We are really excited to link
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: up with them, So we are gonna have a giveaway
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: next week to get ready for that Baltimore game. I mean, listen,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Nico City Group, Bills, Mafia, before you blink, Before you blink,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be kicking off one Thursday and all of
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: a sudden. And that's why I named the episode of
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the way that ended is just that when that season
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: and that ball kicks off on Thursday, Cowboys and Eagles,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you really are, It's gonna hit you guys like an avalanche,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: like man. In a couple of days. We are getting
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: ready to get down and I can't wait for the
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season. I know DT feels the same way.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I know Wiittle does as well. I know all of
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you on Bill's Moompy you can't wait, Widow, what final thought?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: What would the What were your thoughts on the Icy
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: on the Icy jerseys? You like it? You cop one
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: in September next month? I mean, what do you think
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: of it? Are you a fan of audience?
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I'm getting I'm getting a Josh Allen joint Man, definitely
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: getting Josh for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like you.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they real clean, man. I liked it. I heard
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I saw some intricate detail that I missed the other
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: night on the soul pads and stuff like that. Yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: so that that looked cool too, So I think it'll
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: be a cool look. It would be better obviously if
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: it was in the snow. It shouldn't be that cold
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: or snowing in October, but hey, you never know in
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Western New York. So we'll see. But listen out there, listen,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: spread love, not hate. These were my bills, thoughts set
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: out loud. Hit him with the god bills, widow that
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. Hit him with the go bills.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I know what it is, man, go bills. Let's started
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: thirteen wins.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Baby, at least I love it. I love it. Super Bowl,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance, we go represent the conference. You want
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: to get back to.
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  Speaker 2: The bird Do birds fly? We open the new We
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: opened a new stadium with a banner. Let's get it done.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Let's get it done. So excuse me for McDermott this year.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get it done now. You ain't never gonna get
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: an argument out of be about that one. You ain't
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: never lied about that. Listen out there, and y'all enjoy
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: y'all weekend.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: We've got the labored they weekend and We really do
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: appreciate you guys tonight being safe out there.